THE WORST MOVIE WE'VE EVER REVIEWED! | The Book Was Better: New Moon Review Part 2
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- Bella's depression over Edward leaving her gets turned around by Jacob, a werewolf who- nevermind, he just left her too.
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“Werewolves don’t wear shirts because they’re too hot.”
Wait...
Are you saying...
They’re too sexy for their shirts? Too sexy for their shirts?
David Spring so sexy it hurts
They don't deserve the use of that song. That's the kind of music you associate with Alex Lois Armstrong - y'know, an AWESOME character.
Why did you do this? I was having fun.
So sexy it hurts. 😂
I actually like shirtless guys, but I feel weird about these werewolf thing
Music is identity, so considering Bella doesn't like music, that explains a lot.
"I don't like music, it risks giving me a personality"
Edward gives Bella her identity. That's extremely sad.
I agree with all of this, but in this instance, I think they were trying to go for "This is how depression has just killed her". Like, music really can go out the window with severe depression.
Although, sigh, not usually in a "I hate all music" way - more in a "I can't connect with anything" kinda way. You're right, Bella would need a personality to have been able to connect with anything but Edward in the first place, in order to then lose that connection.
Oh man, I forgot about this plot thread. So painfully dumb!
What would have been funny if she didn’t like ELO. because one of there songs is called twilight.
Jacob: "Age is just a number baby."
Considering what happened latter, that line has aged like milk.
Not even like milk. It aged like rotten fruit
*vine thud* 🤨
Bella not liking music because Edward like music is like saying
"Oh no, Edward liked blood and I'm full of it! Welp, guess I gotta get rid of it all."
...Well, okay maybe not THAT extreme, but you get my point.
Considering how she acted in this movie, YES that extreme.
That is the point of the entire series 😆
I don't like beds because my ex liked beds. I sleep on the floor now.
My ex walked, it is time to get a wheelchair now because I refuse to walk because it will remind me of my ex.
My ex used a toilet, from now on I am going to shit on the ground because toilets remind me of my ex.
"Werewolves in this storyline are not as much of a mess as vampires."
Let's talk about the time Jacob imprinted on a fetus.
I'm sorry, what?
@Alexis Crow. He imprints on Bella's newborn baby. His crush on Bella turns out to actually be him wanting the unfertilised eggs in her womb.
@@Xehanort10 Ah, thanks for the explanation. It's not quite what I thought, but it's still weird.
WHAT THE HOLY HELL
@@Xehanort10 Is he gonna make Eggs Benedict with them or somethng?
Oh my god, careless whisper.
"No homo right?"
"All of the homo!"
😂😂😂 and I am now dead.
Asobimo HELL YES
The scene of them friendly bickering like normal people in the garage, probably was followed by a: "Ah! We almost have an entertaining character dynamic and story here! Quick! Back to the boring and/or problematic stuff!"
It's like "They're actually happy? Quick back to angsting and pretending that being miserable all the time is deep."
“Phew... that was close! The viewer was almost engaged!”
"Age is just a number, baby"
~ Jacob Black
... The sighs were there all along
I know I’m hella late but, EW 😖
Ikr. So is 911, Jacob 💀
Ya have to love how Meyers foreshadows stuff.
The whole "Bella hating music" thing is super stupid in hindsight. I could understand if it was artists/songs that reminded her of Edward, but not music all together! Who the hell starts hating all music after break up for a relationship that lasted only a couple months?
And the CD was pretty blatantly Hybrid Theory by Linkin Park which Meyer had listened to while writing the book. So hating that CD or that artist would just... put her with a lot of other people. And otherwise she just listened to Debussey and 50's rock with him. Still something lots of teenagers don't listen to.
There was a moment in the book where Bella tried to listen to music that didn't remind her of Edward. She settled on rap which she could hardly tolerate. Because the only music genres are classical, oldies, emo rock, and rap.
@@tiryaclearsong421 Forgot about that whole tidbit. That makes the a whole situation even dumber.
In a way, I *kind of* see what SMeyer's going for. Bella's clearly going through a patch of depression and when you're depressed, you might find yourself having a hard time enjoying the things you once loved or lose interest in them altogether. Then again, that would have required the author putting more thought into her godawful writing and me giving her an ounce of credit for something.
Exactly. A few months back I couldn't listen to Do I Wanna Know because it reminded me of my crush.
@@jofrn294 True. But there's a difference between not being able to listen to a song, band or even a genre of music and saying that you can't listen to any music all together.
Hey Krimson, there is one way to _maybe_ make the story better, *kill Bella* . I'm serious, you have vampires and werewolves so why not add a ghost? Laurent presents the perfect opportunity, or better yet don't tell/show us how she died and turn the series into a murder mystery. Victoria's group are the obvious suspects to the readers but the human characters (and the police that Bella's dad is chief of) don't know about them. Both the Cullens and the Blacks become prime suspects, Edward and Jacob try to outright murder the other but Bella's ghost intervenes (only those two can see her). Since she can't remember what happened to her it'll take the skills of both a mind reading vampire and a determined werewolf to put Bella's spirit to rest.
There's also the impact this would have on Bella and Edward's relationship. On the upside Edward can't hurt her and Bella can be immortal without the drawbacks/ Edward's whining. On the downside they can't touch each other and the original reason he was attracted, her blood/scent, is now gone. They have to talk about something other than why they can/can't be together and build an actual relationship.
The possible ways Bella could have died include: Murder (Victoria's group, the Volturi, one of the werewolves, or maybe one of her human friends went off the deep end.)
Suicide ( due to depression, her dad has a gun or starving herself during the empty months.)
Or an Accident (the adrenaline seeking could have gone horribly wrong.)
And at the end, what happens? Does she move on to the afterlife? If she does would Edward kill himself to be with her? ( poison if you want to continue the Romeo and Juliet them) Who knows, but it can't be worse then the actual plot.
I remember another supernatural series had a plot similar to that. Would be a lot better then the actual story here.
I would totally read that!
@@sorcerersapprentice You are probably thinking about tv series Being Human
Not gonna lie, THIS would had been a far better idea for the Twilight series storyline then whatever shit Mayer wrote down. And it very much supported by the way too many ways Bella could have died in the books.
Heck, Bella could have just died from tripping over her own feet and falling down badly, breaking her neck in the process. After all she is so extremely clumsy that you would be surprised to learn how much this scenario ISN'T that far off from the books. Welp, you can even say that it would had been totally canon if it really did happen.
@@WojtekDetko It was. Thanks for telling me.
Krimson deserves a medal of honor for suffering like this
Sounds like a good idea. Or at least, buy him some booze
I am good with both of these options.
@@KrimsonRogue why do I have this bad feeling that your girlfriend will make you suffer more by having you review the second film of the Fifty Shades of Grey trilogy?
@@Megatron_95 or the third? Cause that one made ZERO sense or connection to the second
Maybe a booze medal :3
'Good that Jacob is not some destined one to lead them into battle', you sweet summer child... you know nothing of Breaking Dawn, do you?
Evidently not.. That's going to be a fun review
I thought he said that was a bad thing.
@@fightingmedialounge519 He says he's 'surprised', and in such cliched book it's a rather good reaction. Either way, hope he does all the movies. It'll be fuun.
That's my point, it my be fun for us but not for him.
He knows nothing....for the night is dark and full of terrors.
16:07 Any reason she thought up for them being shirtless is clearly an excuse for the fact that it's just so teen girls and middle aged women can drool over them. And Sam's downright evil in the book, slashing Emily's face after she rejects him and her being so traumatised by it and frightened that he'll either do it again or kill her develops Stockholm Syndrome and stays with him. But Meyer, clueless as she is said that was when Emily realised she loved Sam. A woman developing Stockholm Syndrome because a man slashed her face is not love Meyer. I know Mormons are a sheltered bunch but she seems especially sheltered. Apparently in her mind lust, control, abuse and obsession is "protection" and proof of real love.
I think I remember Jacob saying later in book 3 that the shirtless thing is about convenience. In book 3 it's established that the wolves often tie clothing to their legs when they go for a run; one pair of cutoffs is easier than a complete outfit. It's an obvious after thought on Meyer's part as this likely would have been mentioned or noticed not long after Bella fell in with the wolves if she had put that much thought into fleshing things out from the start, but at least she tried.
One, there's no reason to insult all Mormons like that. Two, I thought Stockholm syndrome was agreed upon to be pseudoscience.
Since they're old fashioned lunatics who think people should only have sex when they're married even though people can have sex whenever they want, complain about swearing even though there's nothing wrong with it and so on they kinda have the insults coming. And Stockholm Syndrome is an actual thing. People being held prisoner or abused by someone for so long they develop a bond with them as a means of survival despite what the person did to them. If Meyer had kept her sexual fantasies to herself Twilight would never have existed. Most people keep their fantasies to themselves and don't share them with the whole world like she did.
That said, is anyone really surprised that this series gave birth to the beginning of Fifty Shades of Grey?
@@fightingmedialounge519 Stockholm Syndrome is real and it takes surprising little time to develop.
You know the movie is shit but the set design is pretty awesome kudos to whoever was in charge of that.
the soundtrack is pretty cool too
Yeah hope they found work after they had to help design this travesty of a movie.
i actually thought the characters design was good
I wanted to live in the Cullen's house.
"Edward loved books... I've decided I'll stop reading. Become illiterate. Perhaps then I'll be happy, when I'm failing all my college classes and cant order off of a McDonald's menu"
Chemistry between characters, in this book series. WHAT HERESY IS THIS YOU SPEAK OF!
Jacob: angry barking
Edward: constipated staring
Bella: uhmm uhmm uhmmmmmm
The Volturi eating the tour group was my favorite part of the movie.
Mine too.
Even the ruling councils of supernatural beings hate annoying tourists.
My favorite was how unintentionally hilarious the leader of the Volturi was. It's like he's permanently on shrooms or something. It kinda reminds me of the villain from Warriors of Virtue.
@@blackknightjack3850 the actor of Aro actually did that on purpose. he basically looked at what he had to work with and went "well let's fuck it up". i love it, especially because becoming insane after a couple hundred years is quite plausible. (and it gives the movie some taste, finally)
@@jaderismichaelis589 It seems most of the actors in these movies had that same attitude. I remember Robert Pattinson saying he approached the character of Edward the same way.
Spoiler...
the whole werewolf thing is explained later in the books. Basically they aren't werewolves but shape shifters. Jacobs ancestors got attacked by a vampire and members of his tribe transformed into their spirit animal, a wolf. Jacob is meant to be 6'8 and the largest of the pack and to even be bigger than Sam but in the movies Taylor lautner doesn't even crack 6 feet it's why he comes across so small.
werewolves get explained in breaking dawn, a member of the volturi hunted them to near extinction. They are said to work just like a traditional werewolf in a sense of turning on a full moon.
Also a lot doesn't make sense because new moon, and eclipse were never meant to exist. Her publisher wanted more books from her so she wrote in new moon and eclipse. it was originally meant to be just twilight and breaking dawn. Though it's the twilight verse so a lot don't make sense anyway.
from Someone who liked twilight and also finds it equally infuriating.
It explained later because Meyer was swarm by question to ask what the fuck were they "Werewolfs", so she change it later, because she is afraid to actually respond to questions and actually face some criticism.
I was gonna mention the whole shapeshifter thing. Never heard about the fact that New Moon and Eclipse were never gonna exist, but it does make a lot of sense.
Why not call them skin walkers?
Will Lyon Because they weren’t wearing wolf skin
@@willlyon7129 Because they're not skin walkers. Skin Walkers are different entities. They're also evil in nature where they aren't. They also don't steal faces or free form into all different animals and humans.
2:31 Music won't stir emotions in Bella though because she has none.
I once met a woman who just kind of threw herself at me with zero subtlety. We only went on one official date, but realistically we were together for a little over a month. Over a year after she ended things (in crazy fashion for me essentially being too nice to her), she contacted me out of the blue, wanting to get back together. I didn't say it, but I was like, "We haven't had anything to do with each other for about 12 times as long as we were together. WTF?"
This video reminded me of her.
Taylor Lautner was about 16 years old when he acted in this movie. Normally Teenage characters are played by actors in their 20's but not in this case. They are overly sexualizing a real 16 year old. I'm not the only one REALLY creeped out by that right?
Nope but to be fair most of the audience were also underage girls. Not giving a pass to the grown women who did so though, l the same applies to today's grown woman who are sexualizing the likes of Finn Wolfhard and Noah Schapp, the former being 16 as well and the latter is 14! Ew.
This poor kid :/
Well now I hate the writer more! Why did I read the host?!😭FUCK!
4years late but WHAT?!!!
Edit: its something how he's either the exact age of the character he's playing or at least around it because idk if Jacob is still 14 in new Moon either way wtf on BOTH ENDS
Krimson! If at all possible you should definitely review "After" once the movie is out in theaters. It's based off a Harry Styles fanfic from the same name on wattpad that somehow turned into a real series. I myself never finished any of the books or the fanfic, but I'd love to see you take it apart in a literary sense
The random moments of Jacob without a shirt on seem even fun we when ypu realize so many were in there because the actor had a minimum of shirtless scenes stipulated in his contract
Ugh, I hate nice guys. So glad I never turned out like any of those psychos. Although Bella can arguably be considered an r/nicegirl
Look up the Netflix film Sierra Burgess is a Loser. The main character of that is the definition of a "nice girl." She uses the fact that another girl gave a guy her phone number as a joke to catfish the guy by pretending she's the other girl, forces the girl who gave the guy her number to go along with Sierra's plan to make the guy fancy her by lip syncing everything Sierra says to make it look like Veronica, the other girl is the one saying it with Sierra promising to get Veronica back together with her ex if she helps. She pretends to be deaf so the guy doesn't recognise her voice. When the guy Jamey and Veronica are kissing Sierra creepily hides under a truck watching and listening. Then Veronica takes advantage of the fact Jamey's eyes are closed to push him into Sierra who he then kisses thinking he's still kissing Veronica. Then later Sierra hypocritically gets jealous when she sees Jamey and Veronica kissing and throws a tantrum because her plan has backfired on her. Sierra didn't get Veronica back with her ex who turned out to only want her back for a one night stand. But Sierra out of jealousy shows a clip of Veronica kissing her ex in front of the whole school to break her and Jamey up. But instead of wanting nothing to do with either of them Jamey starts dating Sierra at the end for no reason. Sierra also plays the victim a lot and thinks she only can't get a boyfriend because of her weight and looks when it's because she's a manipulative liar.
slapping a guy then running so her boyfriend can take the beating for her
Naw, Bella is just cardboard.
I'd say Bella leans more into the r/notlikeothergirls category. In fact she's a textbook example of that type.
Nice people arent psychos.
I ... can't believe I'm going to say this but the clothes thing is in a later book. They actually do stash clothes for emergencies and Jacob carries his with him when he is ranging alone in a later book. No, I will not read them again to remember which it was. lol
Yeah, I actually remember that scene. It was written that Jacob carried his jeans around on his wolf form by tying them around one of his legs. And yeah, it is as stupid in the book as this fact sounds like. And I believe this specific moment is from book 4, thought it was also mentioned several times in book 3 too.
I always thought of the werewolves being more like shapeshifters than "werewolves". Then again I was nine when I read it, so my knowledge on supernatural things was pretty limited
In last book to save wolfs from Vulturi I think Alice did some research and showed that they actually weren't werewolfs but they tribe ancestors made a deal with spirits or whatever and they were shape-shifters -I remember reading it so I hope it's not my imagination haha-
They are. They're skinwalkers. It's an old Navajo myth relating to exiled healers who performed perverted, forbidden rituals and somehow gained the ability to morph into animals.
I real shape shifter should be able to turn into many things not one thing
@@isdrakon9802 Well again, I was nine.
@@darkmelodies2694 true
When Bella says FacePunch, I thought she was annoyed with him and wanted to punch him.
"I don't know how this will change later in the series, but I was surprised to learn that Jacob wasn't some destined badass leading a group of shirtless men to victory or something."
This aged ***chef's kiss***👨🍳beautifully. My decision to witness your past suffering before watching the Eclipse review was an excellent one. I regret nothing. 😁
I swear, this happens so much in this series that I'm going to rant about Meyer's use of retconning and backpedaling as a writing style.
T O B E F A I R, not liking or wanting to listen to music is not unusual for someone who suffers from depression, and Bella is supposed to be depressed after Edward leaves. Loathe as I am to give Meyer that much credit...
Coco Lime I’m depressed and I love music. Maybe it’s because I take medication?
i dont take medication, (hello controlling parents) and i actually use music as a coping music, as does almost every friend of mine with depression, and those who dont use music as coping still enjoy music.
Music is the main way for me to feel pretty much anything thanks to my depression
@@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man it depends on the individual of course.
Im not depressed
If you think New Moon was bad, your going to have a blast with Breaking Dawn.
16:09
Which is especially funny because if their body temperature was really high they'd actually feel cold.
If their core temperature was high, they'd feel cold and vice versa.
The visual element actually makes it more hilarious. I cannot see any of those scenes without thinking about Floating Head Doctor from Scrubs.
I don't know when it is said but I seem to remember the werewolves would tie their clothes to their ankles with a belt or something like that before turning, but it's been so long since I read the books or watched the movies I may have made that up ahah
And once again, we realise that Terry Pratchett did werewolves and vampires integrating into society best.
You know what annoys me about the werewolves from this series? they are not really werewolves.
Your book has lots of notes in it. For a book you didn't even take that seriously you are a thorough and honest reader. Definitely commend that.
When I was at my most depressed, I had auditory hallucinations of music - constant and loud and capable of making a coherent stream of thought difficult to impossible to follow. When the hallucinations had been over for a while, and the idea of music wasn't so horrific to me anymore, I started to miss music. A lot. But every attempt to listen to music only intensified my depression. It felt like it was mocking me, reminding me of a stable place that I wasn't allowed to return to, or - at worst - of a joy a wasn't allowed to feel. It became easier to tell people I dont listen to music than to explain how utterly pitiful and fragile I was that any song, regardless of kind or context, made me miserable. I'm better now, but there are still specific songs that I avoid. Namely, the ones that I wouldn't stop playing for nearly a week straight. It'll really turn you off a song.
"How about Face Punch? Ever heard of that?" sounds like a rejection.
The way she said "Face...Punch" almost sounded like she was threatening to punch her friend in the face.
Be a great 180 if Charlie went full Van Hellsing and just went on a killing spree after sending Bella to a mental hospital. Even cooler if Bella completely snaps and does it herself lol
"Hey I know you've been mentally unstable ever since your vampire husbando left but do you wanna go out with me?" - Friend #3
"How about...face...punch...?" Qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm
Bella's stats
Charisma 1
Constitution 2
Wisdom -5
Strength -1
Emotional pain 99999999999999999999999999999999999999°99999\6999999999999999999999
Ok hold up.........wisdom stat should not be that high
thetrue wise gamer how large. Is her wisdom let's talk about that. I'll change it from -5 after this discussion
@@marieparisi4522 oh my bad couldnt tell it was a negative since there was no :
thetrue wise gamer okay but what is her wisdom stat
@@marieparisi4522 i say negative 9001
Bella slapping a guy then running for the hills is the funniest thing I've seen. It's a shame he didn't even get to maul her a little bitty bit. She 100% deserves it.
"Destined badass leading a group of shirtless me to greatness" 😂
"Hulk want yif!" - Krimson Rogue, 2019
16:10 , the werewolf’s don’t wear shirts because when they turn into wolfs their clothes usually shred up. That way they save shirts.
When you finally get to Breaking Down, are you doing both movies at once? I mean, BD pt. 1 is BARELY half a movie as is (not just literally, but it'd be like passing off a title and two paragraphs as a full book), so it seems redundant to try and sit through what amounts to a 2 hour cold opening.
Ooh I just realized how much he's going to hate Breaking Dawn and got really excited 😆
He's going to have a mental *break down* reviewing the movies.
About the music thing, I had a hard time listening to and enjoying music in general for a couple weeks after me and my bf broke up because it seemed like every song I listened to remind me of him. But idk I'm just a melodramatic teen. And of course my thing wasn't QUITE to the extent of Bella's.
You know I think every single fanfiction written about twilight is better than the source material. Who's with me on this one?
*remembers 50 shades of gray* maybe not ALL of the fanfiction
Not Masters Of The Universe. If you know what I mean.
Aside from 50 Shades, yeah basically. There's a human au one that I still remember enjoying a lot where Bella and Edward are im buddies that end up being next door neighbors. Kudos to that author, they made even Rosalie interesting.
My favorite is buffy the vampire slayer ones where she kills them
Fifty Shades of Grey?
4:28
that's actually a pretty cool idea. this could have been about someone falling into heavy drugs in search for their ex if they're that fanatic. a story of delusion. and their climb out of the hell that is drug abuse and lack of motivation and meaning.
OMG your pain is my early Orthodox Christmas present
Wait till you get to Breaking Dawn😁
And so, your suffering continues.
*Sees notification*
Yay! Part 2 of the New Moon review is now available!
"She needs to die. You need to stop looking for the sprites". What does it mean you tease?
So that's what was said backwards?
Technically the sentences are reversed based on when not-NPC said them but yes. (I have Audacity, too. :D ) Maybe it means he prefers games with polygons? No, probably not.
Let the theory crafting continue. >:)
Oh, please, he's been trying to drown his sorrows with Sprite and ran out; isn't it obvious? XP
@@KrimsonRogue damn it dude you never explained what that meant. It's been years and I still want to know.
The whole rage hulk werewolf thing reminds me of Werewolf: The Apocalypse. A table top rpg set in the same world as Vampire: The Masquerade. It does the whole werewolf thing better.
FORSAKEN MADE IT BETTER.
@@marekwygnany924 I've never played any new world of darkness, I really should get around to reading it's rule book
@@hollowbeta6091 umm, without comical exagerration- forsaken's rulebook is very compelling(at least to read) - it creates this plato-shamanic world of ideas taking shapes and interacting with world on metaphoric level. Like "there's a alley gathering murderous spirits, so it's attracting evil people. More murders, make the alley even more enticing to the spirits so the atmosphere there becomes even more dangerous". In big shortcut, good framework for metaphorical RPing..
@@marekwygnany924 Ah cool, I'll get around to it. I've heard good things about NWoD but I've never played it. Thanks for getting me more interested in reading it.
NWod/CoD is awesome. Absolutely cannot _stand_ OWoD.
Maybe it’s just me, but Kirsten (Kristen?) Stewart does a better job at playing Bella than most people give her credit for. Plus, Bella is so badly written that she actually did an okay job (in my opinion)
The Star Wars prequels almost ruined Natalie Portman's career because she was so wooden, but that wasn't her fault, it was the writing and directing.
However, I did watch that Huntsman/Snow White movie that Kirsten Stewart was in, and she was wooden then, too.
I think she's actually just a bad actor, and that's why she's perfect to play Bella.
Even the family from A Quiet Place still liked music, the parents danced to a Neil Young song, they just had to play it via earbuds.
If Bella went to the universe of A Quiet Place she'd get killed by the monsters in it easily because she never stops talking and wouldn't be able to shut up.
I found your channel in the middle of last week and I just spent the last two days marathoning season 1and 2 to figure out what all the backstory and plot in the background of your reviews. I am now kinda sad to be all caught up because I have to wait to see what happens....
But
I'm glad to be here all the same
We're glad to have you! We hope to start putting out videos more regularly, so you shouldn't have to wait too long between episodes.
Thank you, KrimsonRogue. this is literally good timing because I am at work and I was just rewatching your new moon part 1 review
Bella has gone full on "I'm Only Happy When It Rains" mode. It's sad.
I like rain mainly because I over easily on even warm days the rain works to cool me down the sound is refreshing too.
But as Eric Draven says in The Crow "It can't rain all the time."
i recently re watched the classic anime series utena i mention this for a reason
that anime showed just how fucked up this kind of "romance" really is
@Brandon Roberts I agree; Utena does this sort of romance far better. Need to catch up to that anime...
2 years late sorry but could you give a small summary?
@@Plaugue1122 its very hard to give utena a summary
@@ladyaceina just watched the OP looks like typical 80s cheese and I'm all for it lol
@@Plaugue1122 first its made in the 90s
2nd there is nothing cheesy about it its a very very heavy seriess that covers alot of mature topics
it is NOT a kids show
I Cant be the only one that want them to keep their jorts in Wolf form Just once
That would be hilarious.
If a giant wolf wore pants would he wear them like this... or like this?
I argue that the werewolves in twilight are more similar to Lycanthropes due to transforming at will, having their intelligence preserved, and looking more wolfish than humanoid.
Spoiler: and they weren't even werewolves!!! 😡
OnceUponABook were they skin walkers? Or am I giving the book too much credit?
@@Why-sv7eo the book uses the term "shape shifters," but yes. They're skinwalkers.
@@derek96720 What's the difference?
@@derek96720 I think skinwalkers are supposed to be something very different...and WAY scarier.
@@TheDanishGuyReviews Werwolfes are not in controll of their wolfform and have to turn into wolfs while fullmoon. Sometines they are cursed, sometimes it is kind of an illness and they are searching for salvation.
Skinwalker are from Native American folklore and are cannibal, evil witches who are abble to change their form. They are also pictured as evil spirits or even demons.
So I guess Meyer just googled for Werwolflike mythical beeings and used the first Wikipediapage she saw and totally misunderstod the skinwalkerlegend - could be an explanation for making the werwolf/ skinwalker a native american tribe. At least that`s what I thought while reading the book. But I don`t know if they are really called “Skinwalkers“ in the books, because I have never read them in english. Maybe I am complety wrong :)
I appreciate that Yugioh Abridged reference
I’m so glad you mentioned The Dresden Files. All time one of my favorite series, also my favorite interpretation of werewolves.
Krim, you poor, brave, beautiful soul!
I appreciate the use of the Romeo x Juliet soundtrack! Show took a weird turn in the second half, but it's.... still a better love story than--
--nevermind, that joke's old now.
I am ashamed of myself for reading the whole freaking saga when I was a teen (lucky it was just a phase), but it did say in Breaking Dawn, during the Jacob point of view episode that they indeed had spare pants scatered around the forest and when they turned at will, they got naked and tied the pants to their legs...
...
I'm impressed with all the freaky details I still remember.
Some of the things about werewolves are explained in other books - mostly in Breaking Dawn. Not that it helps the thing about clothes, but it's there.
Also, it's so weird to see Aziraphale with long black hear. Probably as much as it was to see Aro in Eden talking to ginger Tenth Doctor in the first minutes of the first episode of Good Omens. Couldn't get the weird laugh from Breaking Dawn part two from my head.
Also also - how about a video about Good Omens? I would love to know your opinion.
“Hulk want yiff.”
I just fucking died. 😂
Lmaol Love it!
"Let me take my pants off! "
I wonder what was going through the head of the shirtless guy who carried Bella home. "I'll carry her back to her dad in only my trousers and pants. That'll in no way make him think I raped her while she was unconscious in the woods and am carrying her back to him just to gloat. Oh no. He definitely won't think that."
@@Xehanort10 What rapist would gloat though?
This movie is eye cancer...
Change my mind
Fish- Face Why would we? You’re right.
Challenge accepted: 50 Shades of Gray trilogy is the true eye cancer. Twilight is just a bad eye tumor in comparison.
Thought...... Twilight is still the ultimate brain cancer among the YA genre of books and movies.
@@viktoria_pikovsky Dem you're right!
!Thanks you :)
btw, Meiyer does hint at the existence of more traditional werewolves in one of the books (the volturi were momentarily terrified at their presence before realizing these were not "the children of the moon")
That splicing of footage at the end was better edited than all four movies combined
“HULK WANT YIFF!”
I don’t want to justify poorly thought out logic of the Twilight universe but I think the werewolves “gene” that remains suppressed until the presence of a vampire is allegory for the battle between good and evil. Either side is neither truly good or evil but possess characteristics of both and having their own goals and desires. I shouldn’t compare this trash to ASOIAF however I think there’s strong similarities between the White Walkers vs humankind/magic and werewolves vs vampires. Both universes strive to meet a balance between life and death, ice and fire, good and bad. I don’t entirely think the werewolves’ metamorphosis reasoning is entirely stable and well thought out compared to a lot of things but it’s something 🤷🏼♀️
You know I just thought of something, it actually might have been more interesting if Bella actually started to date Jacob and while it has Edward come back at the end of New Moon, she doesn’t run back to him because she is with Jacob now. Maybe even give more of a conflict of whether she should stay with Jacob or get back with Edward. Make her even question if she even wants to be a vampire anymore because she actually has conflicting feelings over who she loves more Jacob or Edward. Like actually give weight to her choice where the books and movies made it blindingly obvious that she was going to end up with Edward and become a vampire. What if the books actually ended with her becoming a vampire and she still chooses Jacob? It would actually kind of be the unexpected thing unlike her staying human with Jacob or becoming a vampire with Edward.
While I do agree who Bella was going to choose was super obvious, part of me actually respects Bella for know what she wants rather than being indecsive or flip flopping.
Still, despite not ending up with Bella I do think we can all agree who Jacob ended up with was very very unexpected. I at least didn't see that coming.
Hahaha “loup garou” means “werewolf” in French so you were saying “I prefer the werewolf werewolves” which made me laugh
And of course, it's French, so the P is silent
I also got a chuckle out of Supernatural having a creature called a "rugaru" which is clearly derived from loup garou, but the show portrays completely different from werewolves.
You’re my man, Krim, keep up the awesome work!
This literally JUST went up. I thought I'd be First. Smh
Thanks for putting in The Piano Guys! Love it! They make me cry all the time.
The funny thing is, there are 2 kinds of "werewolves" in the Twilight universe. There are the wolf shifters from the tribe, and then there are the stereotypical werewolves that have been driven to near extinction by the Volturi.
The stereotypical werewolves are basically vampires. They are pretty much equal is strength and both create more of their kind through venom. The only difference between the vampires and werewolves is that the wolves have no choice when they transform and can't control their actions.
Is it Christmas again already?
Damn, as a fan of FMA I just can't stop cringing whenever I hear the name Edward in this review, Because whenever I hear it I immediately think about Ed Elric. So thanks Mayer for ruining the name Edward forever too.
On a side note, Twilight would had been a millions times better if the Edward character in it actually was Ed Elric. And his will to leave Bella to later on try to commit s suicide would had been far more understandable too.
I still love the memes comparing them. They're hilarious.
@@Princess101855 Lol, especially considering how true they are. My god, those two cancers in a book are so damn similar, that you can't even decide which is the better one.
@@viktoria_pikovsky As a FMA fan, totally agree. If Ed Elric was the main character, he would've dumped Bella's ass after the first date and been able to solve most of the problems in the series in a snap. I know he would've exposed the Volturi fast like he did with Father Cornello. Would've made for a better story then this garbage.
No, ed woul have proably been killed due to the vampires superior power. Also there would be no first date since he has none of edwards motivation.
@@fightingmedialounge519 Ed fought and even killed homonculi, some of whom where far more powerful than the entire Cullen family combined. So I belive he has good odds against them. Also his alchemy would help a lot too, especially considering the Cullens and the werewolves does not know how to defend from it.
And yeah, there would be no first date between him and Bella, as he would be smart enough to run away as far as possible from her in the first moment Bella would show her dependent of him. Heck, probably even Al would not date a girl who is more empty than his armor.
I seem to remember in the book there was a mention of folded shorts on an ankle holder?? Also I seem to remember that they ACTUALLY keep shorts randomly strewn through the Forrest...or maybe I’m retconning it myself?
They don't wear shirts because they destroy their clothes when they change without undressing first. And the books make a lot of distinction between the vampires' wealth and the werewolves' lack.
You know I was always curious about one question that the series never answered.....why bella? For any of them? In the world of twilight.
I get that Edward was attracted to her scent, but why date her?
He's been a vampire for a long enough time that he should be looking at her as food or maybe as a human being her doesn't want to hurt. But why date her? She's as flat and dry as a rive cake. I don't understand why guys that look like them are going for such a boring person. I mean what does bella do outisde of want to be in a relationship?
She has not hobbies that I know of, friends are a joke, isn't close with her family, and honestly she doesn't have anything going for her. Another example is the Anne Rice novels where lestate has a thing for Louie because he view him as unique, namely for his want of death but lacking the will to do himself in. Or in dracula where he thinks mina is a reincarnation of his long dead lover. Here Jacob just wants bella because....they were friends as kids? And Edwards wants bella because.......they don't even say. No personality traits. No like little features. Not even saying her ass looks great in those jeans. I'm surprised that no one in the demographic bothered asking why they liked each other. Just an observation.
Edit: to be clear I'm inquiring for the world in the book not the narrative sense where bella is a self insert.
I've been talking with a friend at work who's finished the series and he says that it's kind of like some destined bonding thing. Like, they're soulmates and they're naturally drawn together. Apparently the way it's presented has roots in Mormonism. I'm sure I'll have plenty to talk about when I get around to it.
Aside from the wishfufilment argument; edward wants bella because of her blood and because he can't read her mind(basically making her the ultimate novelty). While jacob wants her future daughter.
It's because Bella's a self insert Mary Sue based on Meyer herself. For some reason Bella is who she wanted to be as a teenager.
Meyer wanted to be incredibly boring?
why....why would you do that to us, what did we EVER do to you for us all to deserve that mental image of the hulk.
otherwise, dear lord this is bad, and i give you SOOOO much credit for giving up your sanity to do this review.
Actually, I may have an answer for the transformation problem with the werewolves. Here it is:
Animals will high metabolism need to eat a lot to make sure they have enough energy for basic needs. If the werewolves need to eat a lot of food - vampire, cooked chicken, or otherwise - then considering their size, they would need to eat 3 to 4 times more food than a normal wolf. And considering their running and stuff when in wolf form patroling the forests and such, they would be burning a lot of calories. And burning calories mean doing activities that can make your body rise in temperature. So the reason the werewolves are shirtless is because they are trying to cool their human bodies down from all the calories burned as wolves.
Also I think the transformation only occurs with vampires they don't have a treaty with, don't consider to be their enemy, or they learn to control the urge.
OMG THANK YOU!
I've seen so many people complaining that her werewolves aren't werewolves and her vampires aren't vampires, forcing me to defend a book I don't even like to begin with. There's been so many itirations of werewolves and vampires, not even counting how different they are from one culture to another, who's to decide what is or is not a werewolf or vampire. Actually, I appreciate that she didn't just copy and paste what they usually are and tried to do her own thing. Even though sparkling vampire is a weird choice to say the least.
honestly, i would have called Mike 'Friend #2'. it just fits.
Kazuhiro 'Kaz' Miller: Why are we here? Just to suffer?
"Twilight, making everything else like better by comparison."
I Thought that was 50 Shades of Grey.
Man, all this talk of vampires and better storytelling makes me wish we had more Legacy of Kain.
'Angrily Stares at Square Enix'
10:43
I just realized before we got the "play dumb- ...not that dumb" quote new moon of all things gave us the reverse. "Lie. ...Lie better."
I think I remember the book had once said that sometimes they’ll take their pants off and tie it to their legs before they transform or something like that.
Bella failing all of her bluff checks...point to you Sir, that was a good one there
18:54 THIS IS GOING TO HAUNT ME FOREVER
Werewolves in the books are werewolves. The wolves you see Jacob become are just shape shifters. Meyer explains this in the books when Bella asks if hes a werewolf and is informed that they're a clan of shape shifters and that actual werewolves are terrifying and real.
9:43, as you once said, “Do you want that list alphabetically or by degree of severity?”