The Book Was Better: Death Note Review
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2017
- Krimson gets to endure an old favorite anime turned live-action remake with an unusual cohost, Ryuk the Shinigami.
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Light Yagami in the anime would never help students cheat, it goes against what he said at the end of the first episode, "Only people who are kind honest and hard working can live in my new world."
Maybe he thinks you don't have to be able to pass tests to be a hard worker actually it's funny that would make more sense if they were still in Japan because of how brutal their school system is with their high suicide rates and it could be interesting to think he was actually preventing suicides before doing the death note thing
m but he kilsl so hes the ultimate hypocrite duh..its why he has to lose in the end...hes letting the god complex get ot his head...
Exactly, part of what made his decent into madness and buying into the hype of being the God of the new world, getting rid of the evil- and as it goes him justifying and bending what he sees as "evil" swings so out of control since from the start, and especially when he "loses" the notebook, you see what a strong moral compass he's had his whole life.
It makes where he starts, and where he ends that much more powerful.
And you can debate, not just who's right between L and Light, but did the absolutely power corrupt him absolutely, or was it having absolute power that allowed him to become what he was deep inside all along, that he had to curb to societal expectations.
I have the manga, I haven't read it yet, been meaning to start it soon- I know there's difference of course between that and the anime series, but the series does SUCH an amazing job showing Light's path in such a way where you generally agree with him, but there's a point where almost everyone's going to be "Um, ok buddy, you're taking this a bit far, rein it back."
Part of why I show the anime to any and all friends I can is I find it really interesting where different people will see the line having been crossed.
He might help the study but not cheat for sure
I saw the movie first, I kinda see it as... 1. It's own thing, which could fit in the same universe. 2. But one of the best live action adaptations of an anime. 3. At least the Death Note concept is very similar.
I think Death Note has the same issue I have with a lot of American media. The insistence that it's protagonists must be losers in order to be "relatable".
Considering that this movie was made by Americans it really says something about how Americans see themselves...or more so how American media views its audience. -__-
IAmTheUnison that is horrible 😰
I mean the same could be said for a lot of shonen shows. Simply put, people love underdogs regardless of the culture.
Doesn't like Every Shonen anime start that way though? :|
Blame Spider-Man
The scene where Light kills the man he thinks is L is such an incredibly important scene. It’s the first time we really see Light’s fatal flaw, Pride. Light is normally calculating and particular. He thinks things through, planning out schedules and traps to keep from being caught. But in that moment, when “L” starts to taunt him, all of that calculation and intelligence goes out the window. He acts impulsively, without considering the consequences. And he pays for it. He gives L a ton of information, and L proceeds to taunt him even more for being dumb enough to do so. It’s a huge bruise to Light’s ego, and it solidifies the vendetta and hatred he has for L. It’s a critical moment both for developing the relationship between the characters and establishing an important part of Light’s character. To throw that out in favor of a dumb scene where L just actually steps out in front of Kira and risks his life is frankly criminal.
you know when is the second time that he fucked up and painted a target on his arse? when he did all he did to kill ray penber and the other fbi agents. that same day when the bus plan happened, penber was going to go back and report that it was imposible for light to be kira because what he had obversed he was a normal kid and didn't do anything suspocious. if light had done nothing against penber, L would have never closed the circle so much on him.
@@nessyness5447 But he needed to probe to himself that he COULD do it. Yet again, Pride.
@@gantzllat oh i know, i am just saying it was really stupid. Is funny, how pride can lower anyone's intelligence so much.
The Death note anime? How can one enjoy a mind game between two characters that have no variety and are more the faces of interesting, yet in no way new ideas? I mean... It would have been nice to spend more than two seconds with Light bevor the story starts? There will always be violence and death and hatred. That is heartbreaking. Yet that fact is so obvious that I find it hard to understand that Light was even depressed by that. I get that greed is a thing. I get that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts. Yet I didn't need the manga or the anime in order to understand that. What is the relationship between Light and his family? I have a hard time coming up with any scene between Light and his family that isn't mere info dumbing. I know that a lot will bring up the scene where Light's fathe lets himself be inprisoned. But it's hard to give a shit when that is the first piece of emotional interaction between the two. For the longest time we don't even know why L does what he does on a fundamental level.
If one isn't itnerested in characters and just wants to discuss deeper of philosophical themes, then why not simply write a non-fiction book or a documentary?
Too much of Death Note's tension depends on you not knowing what's going to happen or how it will play out. The problem is that such pieces of tension can usually never be enjoyed as much as it was at first, since now you know what happens and why. For example: The scene where Light's father pretends that he and Misa and being lead to their execution.
History is written by the winners, yes, but again: Did you need Death Note to know that?
@@samlerf the reason why the scenes between light and his family seem so " unimportant" is because light is a narcissistic psychopath. He doesn't care about anyone more than in the sense of how they are of use for him, so he doesn't care about his family's lives , he is emotionally disconnected from them. the only thing he shows interest in is his father's job and only because is useful information for him. And the same with the rest of the world, he only cares about what he can use, other than that he is not interested in people's problems or lives. So because of most of the scene with his family are from light pov, we only see what he is interested in. When we switch to his father's pov we can see how much soichiro loves his son unconditionally, he is a good father, he would do anything for his son, but his son would be capable of killing his entire family if that gives him a good enough benefit.
Misa is a traumatized girl with a cult follower mentallity who is constantly manipulated by light and becomes completely dependent and devoted to him, she is cuter version of bellatrix lestrange, she is not mentally sane. And L got in the kira case for personal reasons, he goes to the extreme because even if he insists he just hates to lose, truth is that cathing kira became personal after kira killed a certain someone ( read another note for more on that).
Imagine being Willem Dafoe. Reviews for this movie you're in, Death Note, come out and it's almost universally hated.
But everyone who hates it still agrees you were the best part of the movie.
That's gotta feel good.
I disagree on your certain point. The Netflix adaptation on my point would be on the scale of 10/10.
Its neat that they keep Ryuk mostly in shadow. It makes him more sinister, and hides the only OK CGI.
Eh... lol
I mean, this is a bad@$$ version of Ryuk, it really is, and the voice acting is fantastic...
But with everything else that surrounds this movie... It just kills me to even think of the good parts of the movie.
Because what they did do right, they did magnificently in some situations, and at least good enough in others. Which makes what they didn't do right in this movie all the much more frustrating.
I think this movie should have just been called "The Death Note: A Death Note Inspired Film" or something like that, and didn't use the same names of the Anime characters.
Just call Light, "Turner", call L... N.... lol.. Okay... That was a little too racist of a joke.... lol... Please don't hate me... lol
But for real though, just call Light, "Turner", call L another letter of the alphabet, keep Misa as Mia, etc.
And let them all be there own chatacters within their own story.
Because this movie is actually a fun movie. But it's a terrible, terrible, terrible Death Note movie.
CGI? I could swear that was just Willem Dafoe with some makeup on!
The only thing is... Ryuk isn't really sinister in nature. Yes, he's a death god, but he's also really funny. He's intrigued by human nature and can act clownish at times. He's not intending to be scaring the lights out of you like other higher ranking shinigamis.
@@yunamchill9169 Even the other Shinigami don't want to scare the living daylights out of you. Ryuk and Rem are the only ones who even bother interacting with humans; most of them just see humans as food sources.
But your main point still stands, that Ryuk was a pretty playful character in the manga/anime, only really this sinister being at rare points, most prominently the end of the manga. While here it's the opposite, sinister character with only bits of humor here and there.
"This man is Kira!"
"I instantly believe you!" (Bonks L on the head)
Near in a nutshell
Fun fact, the whole Kira BS on the Netflix movie is wrong, the closest celtic word to "Kira" is "Ciara" and it actually means dark, not light.
TheSlayFer Ch. T. Why not just use that?
@@christiancrusader9374 Ciara's traditionally a girl's name. The male equivalent is Ciaran.
@@ciara947 okay, so why not that?
@@christiancrusader9374 because the writers have no idea what they're doing
@@ciara947 here's my idea for how a sequel could work. L calms down and decides he needs to win the right way. Light's dad struggles with wether or not he should turn his son in. Light completes the character arc the movie started (yes he did go through one) and decides he needs to get rid of his dad and L to protect himself. So he deals for the eyes. L realizes light will come after them and sets up a contingency plan and then makes his move. L could use the death note page to set his days to 25, thus protecting him from light.(like the Japanese films)
Honestly, the principal's reaction to Light's assault measured against his homework forging is really realistic to how actual American schools handle bullies and victims.
And how much trouble they get in for doing so
That's not exclusive to Americans tbh, but true
@@someguy9893 Not exclusive, for sure, but most certainly a common theme.
Any school, really
As a victim of bullying myself, yes. The schools cared more about me not doing my homework sometimes than they did the fact that a kid launched a chair at me from halfway across the room. I got in school suspension for running out of the room. The other kid got mildly scolded.
One small thing: "Kira" doesn't roughly translate to "Killer". It literally is the English word Killer as written in Japanese (or technically "Killer" rendered in Japanese phonetic syllabary and then converted back to Latin alphabet using the standard used for native Japanese words); the "l"s becoming R as they are considered interchangeable in Japanese (and R is used in to represent them in the Latin alphabet) and the "er" being contracted into a Japanese A sound.
Perfectly put, I hoped someone would write this!
Yeah, Kira is basically Engrish.
Or you could say Kira isnt the rasict way of saying "killer"
Oh and i have doulingou and yea the ER sound is kinda like RA
(I saved my family lol)
*gently looks at Yoshikage Kira*
I would have been like 90% more okay with the movie, if the didn't have light and L in it and instead established two new characters and then said it was inspired by the original. I feel like their attempt to Americanize it failed and the characters weren't as good as the original. By changing the characters names, it makes the viewer feel like it's a new story in the deathnote saga and not supposed to be an adaptation of which the two will be heavily compared.
They could've just rewrite the entire story based on what's given in Death Note lore though... but that takes effort lol
@Haku infinite maybe even being betrayed by the movie's version of Misa.
@Haku infinite you mean kind of like " light up the new world" the sequel of the japanese live actions were six death notes fall into the human world and some are trying to find kira's heir while a guy who is basically L's son ( he was created from L's dna so it's more like a clon...kinda like the little girl with wolverine in Logan) is trying to help the police fix the mess( is a very bassic description of the plot, in case you didn't knew it and want to see it)
@Haku infinite Okay, just off the top of my head:
A decade or so after the Kira incident, Ryuk gets bored and drops the Death Note in the US. Some small-name-big-ego kid picks it up, and starts using it not because he idolized Kira or he shared the same kind of warped sense of justice, but because this made him feel validated and he wants to prove that he is better than Kira. He declares that, instead of a bottom-up approach of killing convicted criminals, he would change society top-down by slowly killing corrupt politicians and the rich, and doing so by different means each time so that he wouldn't have the same "calling card" as Kira. However, during all this he is constantly being observed and pestered by Ryuk, who always talks about how inefficient he is, or how Light could totally do things in a more clever way, so over time he becomes more hasty and less meticulous.
Then we switch over to the other side of the coin: the interpol now has an entire division dedicated to looking out for and preventing future Kira copycats, with all of their members being required to constantly wear masks and their identities erased from all databases and only referring to each other using code-names. Not only that, but instead of a genius detective, it's a group of message-board dwellers who first connect the dots about the new Kira. So now, we have a specialized task force and the in-universe equivalent of one of the chan-boards hounding our protagonist, who is trying to keep a low profile, but his ego keeps him returning to the book to prove his "genius", and after getting more and more frustrated over Ryuk's teasing, people not really adoring him the same way they did to Kira, and his efforts not really resulting in any societal change, he makes enough mistakes for the police to catch up to him and foil his plans just before he would get to the point where he was about to crack and write the names of every world leader into the book out of spite.
There. Not an amazing story idea by any means, but it's still better than the Netflix movie, and I wrote it in less than ten minutes.
@@Horvath_Gabor can we make this a movie? or at least a long fanfiction if we have no budget
Willem Dafoe is honestly the most awesome part (if not the only) of this movie. Then again, when Is Willem Dafoe not great?
He's even good in that terrible game "beyond two souls"
If Cumberbatch fans are Cumberbitches, does that make us Willem Dahos?
his voice for ryuk was great, too bad ryuk's character was heavily butchered in this
Alastair Bond ... I actually liked that game... =(... Maybe not the ending but still.
Body of Evidence, and Boondock Saints 2--though, the latter is mostly because it wasted him.
It's so great to see Willem Dafoe reprise his role as the Green Goblin, although the costume design is a bit weird...
Well this aged well
@@biostar4 that it did, that it did
A crossover I'd like to see is Krimson and The Dom (from Lost in Adaptation). I think they'd play off each other really well.
Lauren Anderson I agree
YESSSS!!!!!! :DDDDDD
yes!!
YES
Absolutely! 😍
18:50 Did he say that "kira" means "light" in Russian? That's total bs. The only "kira" in Russian language is the name Kira.
Yeah. You right, total bullshit. Light in Russian would be "Svet" / "Свет"
It's sad that I know very little Russian and even I know Kira doesn't mean anything in Russian. It's total bullshit.
They probably do not expect American audience to know anything from Russian because of the relationship between USA and Russia, most likely.
CAPTAIN D-MAN wow, Light is bad at Russian!😱
*Gracekim1*
It is fascinating that with his name Light Turner isn't exactly the brightest.
Light can't just have Watari kill L because of a rule on page 10.
"Whether the cause of the individual's death is either a suicide or accident, if the death leads to the death of more than the intended, the person will simply die of a heart attack. This is to ensure that other lives are not influenced."
Also, Watari isn't even his real name.
Question though-does the movie say that?
it should, but doesn't. they made the baffling decision of creating an unnecessary plot hole already remedied by the rules themselves. I really get the feeling they didn't do any research before writing. Or, y'know, basic critical thinking.
yes you are right but that also means the guy with the grande should have died of an heart attack.
Adam Wingard and Jeremy Slater didn't do any research what so ever when they made this movie because they didn't look up any of the actual rules because the guy that set off the bomb should have died from a heart attack and the train derailing shouldn't have derailed, it should have beeen a heart attack too.
The moment they talked about having Watari kill L I was thinking "Ha they're gonna write down Watari and find out it doesn't work"
"Oh god it worked...."
"Now I think we can all agree that Light eventually becomes a bad guy."
Not if you ask the fangirls!
Actually, me and my group of friends, who I live streamed the anime with, actually thought he was the villain and rooted for L more. xP
I gotta be honest. When I watched the anime, I didn't hate Light until the very end. Like I didn't really start hating him until after L died. He was just so damn charismatic and I LOVE evil characters....
I've seen the light now, though, I swear.... (pun intended)
This may seem weird, but I actually rooted with Light through most of it, and am pretty sure that if I had a Death Note in real life, I would do just about the same thing. Sort of. The one thing that made me see Light as a villain wasnt his goal, which I seen as noble, nor his killing of L, which I seen as understandable from a survival perspective: It was his attitude torwards his own friends and family, in particular, his attitude torwards Misa, Takada, and to a lesser extent his father. I can tell for certain I would never kill someone who was activelly triyng to help me.
I kind of get what you mean. While I didn't agree with the execution (heh ba dum tss) of it, I understand why Light thought the way he did. His solution to all the evil and crime in the world was a bit extreme, but I could see where he came from.
But yeah, as soon as his father was going to be used as a pawn, I really started disliking him, which I know means I was rooting for him for a long time, but I was too invested, y'know?
Just like a Phantom Phangirl.
L's small details are great but the big ones suck.
What does that tell us?
Great actor but horrible script
THIS 👏 My friend and I watched it recently and were amazed at how well the actor captured L’s speaking patterns and little mannerisms, but his actions in the story contradicted his character and made him rather generic
I didn't even watch the anime and yet I already know from clips I saw that L was SO reclusive that the very people who contacted him to help with the Kira case were shocked when they finally saw him in person, no doubt expecting some grizzled badass, and discovered that he's...a skinny, disheveled, sleep-deprived manchild with an insatiable sweet tooth and who's _possibly_ on the autism spectrum--though he's STILL a bona fide badass, of course. In fact, IIRC, L finally showing himself to the task force was meant to be as much a shock to the readers as it was to the characters.
@@CJCroen1393 All you'd have to do is look at L to be able to tell lmao. Let's be honest, his physical appearance doesn't scream extrovert.
@Haku infinite Exactly right. Plus the fact on multiple occasions L blew up in the movie. He would never do that in the anime.
@Haku infinite Oh 100%. That was just awful. The actor did alright with what he had. Which wasn't much.
One kinda important distinction. You mention that Manga/Anime Light doesn't have somebody else kill L because of his arrogance, but that is only partially correct. The Death Note explicitly states that ONLY the person who's name is written can be killed and cannot cause the deaths of others. Light didn't know L's name, so he couldn't kill L indirectly through that manner. The main reason he didn't outright kill L himself is because his death would only bring more suspicion on him.
However, the rules in the movie are ill-defined, so there really isn't anything stopping Movie Light from doing just that...
Yup. In fact, the movie explicitly shows someone blowing himself up, and others along with him. They shot themselves in the foot there.
The scene with Light meeting Ryuk in the manga is vastly different from any the adaptations (if I remember correctly). When Ryuk appears, Light is actually excited, saying "I've been waiting for you to come". He's also already killed a bunch of dudes. Manga Light ain't joking around.
He's shocked initially, falling back on his butt, but once he realizes who Ryuk is he gets under control.
In the Anime Universe "Look like they took Kira from the English word killer"
In the Netflix Universe "It also kinda loosely means killer in Japanese"
Light shifting the Kira name origin blamed since 2003 XD
You know I think they handled this version of 'Death Note' as if it were a potential school shooter who had the power of the 'Final Destination' Grim Reaper.
Patrick Morris that is a pretty good description of the Netflix adaptation, the reason why Light in the anime and manga is more interesting is that he didn’t start out as a bad person, in fact if he never found the Death Note he probably would have followed his father in law enforcement and tried to change things for the better without forming a god complex and the belief that the ends justify the means. In fact it seemed like the Death Note itself warped Light into becoming a darker version of himself which makes his storyline quite tragic. In the Netflix version you can already tell that there was something off about that version of Light, but they didn’t do much with him being unhinged because they also wanted to make him seem more sympathetic and heroic, I feel like they wanted him to seem like this kind of bullied person who wants to right wrongs that are in society, but they failed to make a very interesting character.
If I found a book like the Death Note, the first thing I'd do is burn it.
I don't trust anyone with that sort of power, least of all myself.
don't even start with that kinda bullshit. everyone, including you, me, and anybody who reads this has a god complex. everyone.
every single person thinks they're the best thing that the world has ever seen.
anyone could become kira with the deathnote. even you. don't even pretend to have the moral high ground.
@@ftl9849 don't act like a pretentious douche bag...most people have this thing called empathy which prevents them from committing genocide, that in no way means every person is good,but most people like this guy said wouldn't keep on killing because most people heve a sense of morality ingrained in them...anyone can become kira but most people won't...even the damn anime shows the task force against the idea of L testing it cause they thought it was morally wrong.
@@souvikbose8583 Yeah, but it was proven that people are more likely to kill someone through indirect means. Let's say pushing a button that sets a terrorist on fire will affect people less than stabbing the criminal themselves. With the death note not only you won't get your hands dirty (literally) but people won't have a fucking clue that it was you. What I am trying to say is that people will be more tempted to kill someone with the Death Note rather than with a gun or a knife.
@@Player-re9mo yes but it is done when people feel that what they are doing will end up saving more lives...for example if we had deathnote and we see a person whose name and face we know is about to murder someone close to us then yes most people will use it, but most people wont go out of their way to become the god of the new world...some would kill for their own benefit, but most won't use it for moral reason
@@souvikbose8583 I agree, while many would use the death note, few are those who would actually attempt to become like Kira. I found it funny when Light called himself the god of the new world, because at the end of the day he was just a young man with a book that can kill people. I fail to see how the ability to kill lots of people makes you a god . Many did it before and noone thinks of them as gods . Light had a god complex that prevented him from seeing his flaws.
(I know I’m super late BUT) 38:23
“I’ll take a book and READ IT”
“I’ll take a movie and REVIEW IT”
“I’ll take a health potion and DRINK IT”
I'll take a potato chip AND EAT IT!
Dammit, they forgot the funniest scene in the anime!
So I was hoping you would bring this up, but considering that you didn't, I'm starting to wonder if I missed something: WHY DIDN'T LIGHT JUST BURN THE PAGE WITH HIS NAME ON IT? He had the page, not Mia. Why didn't he just burn the damn thing to save himself instead of coming up with this convoluted scheme to do so?
I mean he did have to get rid of Mia, even though he did love her or whatever (blerrghh). But even so, yeah he couldn't easily just burned the page but then we would have had more of a movie and no one wants that.
@@thoughtsofaleo2916 He wrote her name anyway he could've even wrote that she'd burn the page with his name on it if she had it with her. He didn't have to go through all the ferris wheel and the book exchange or whatever.
That's... actually a really good point. One could argue that he might not have been able to, since once Mia wrote his name he was under the Death Note's effects... but if he was under its influence, he would not have been able to concoct and carry out a plan that involves him not surrendering the book to Mia and dying...
... Actually, why can he do that?! The action controlling in Deathflix is a lot more powerful than it is in the manga; it seems to downright turn people into the Death Note user's puppets at some points. If Mia gave specific commands in the section where Light surrenders the book, he should just do it then die.
This wouldn't be the first case of Deathflix not following its own rules, but it's still frustrating.
Also......Celtic is not a language. It's a group of languages [Welsh, Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Breton, Manx and Cornish if I remember correctly]. Small thing, but so, SO annoying!
afanoftheclassics yeah. If he said Irish Celtic, or Scottish Celtic i think most of us would be fine but NOOO
The Celts are an extremely widespread group of European people originating in Spain. Their languages would of course be those considered to be Celtic. The languages you listed are Celtic (those insular languages of the Goidelics and Britons), but of course there are numerous others.
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Even that's incorrect. It's Irish *Gaelic* and Scottish Gaelic, and even then just Irish is nearly always preferred, as Gaelic refers to the sport of Gaelic football in Ireland.
@@marcasdebarun6879 hmm cool
And for the most minor of issues, in Welsh (a Celtic language) "light" is "golau". Not something you could even distort or mispronounce into "kira".
I hate what they did to L’s character. One of my favorite things about Death Note as a whole is the parallels between Light and L.
Light is willing to kill whoever gets in his way to make a perfect world and to win against L.
L is willing to kill and hurt whoever gets in his way to capture Light.
This brings a whole new layer to the “how far is too far” question and “good vs bad”
Okay this by far is my absolute favorite video on this channel. Krimson you have outdone yourself in this production. My hat goes off to you good sir!
SkyHighGuys
Wow, Ryuk is so scary. 😮
Lol I know. I’d never seen this film before he reviewed it. I saw the live action but never this one. I’m glad I don’t have to worry about renting or buying it.
Meh the movie is free on Netflix, but it still sucks.
Alexa Jordan that’s actually a major problem with netflix movies: no matter if they are bad or good, they will never lose money since you pay for the whole service anyway, and thus no matter if it is good or bad, they will keep makin movies like it
The gore is just to overcompensate for the pack of drama
Lack*
And now they are making a live action Your Name. When will they learn to stop making live action anime, it just bothers me so much.
well, good live action anime DO exist...mind you the only ones I've found are from the romance genre but still...
The live action Ruroni Kenshin was pretty good at least. Of course, that was made in Japan, where they understand the source material better. :P
KrimsonRogue I will say Edge of Tomorrow and Oldboy were good even though they were first manga.
And it stars kamen rider Den-O,
KrimsonRogue What were your thoughts on the movie IT,if you've seen it?
"Get off the ceiling!"
I lost it at that point. I had to pause the video to catch my breath.
My favorite outburst
The only time Light lost his cool was near the finale of the Anime,Lights plan fell apart because of Near he had no way to profess he's not Kira and he had no way to get out it
Duncan Anderson same thing in the manga. The scene was amazing!
Kira does sure as hell NOT mean light in Russian. Gods, have they even heard of research?? It's a female name in Russian and nothing else.
a female name which derives from a Latin word for light. or if you want to ignore the Latin roots the Prussian origin means sun, which is close enough.
names have meanings too. why would you expect him to name himself after a noun? who the fuck would fear the serial killer "The Banana Apple Killer"?
@@NoESanity He he. That is so true there.
Here's my favorite idea how to fix this it's a sequel instead of a remake ryuk drops the book in America this time and he acts as a successor to light
They already made that. It's called Light up the New World, and the fanbase has not been kind to it.
I did not know abou that it's just an idea i lik
@@genevievegreso2127 wasnt that relayed to the tv drama?
@@V2ULTRAKill There was a tv drama immediately preceding it which was slightly better received, but it's still not widely loved from what I've gathered.
@@genevievegreso2127 the death note tv drama is pretty much beloved in Asia, its currently favored over the anime in japan
16:39 It's also worth noting that despite being impulsive in the manga and anime, Misa also is pretty smart. She managed to track down Light, and found a vantage point to make sure her broadcast got out by killing anyone who tried. She also helped out several times and was some pretty nice eye candy. Miia in Deathflix was brought into it cause this Light thought "pretty lady, me want to bone" and ended up being a total nimrod that had violent outbursts of psychopathic episodes that should have gotten them caught multiple times. Fortunately for them, L is an idiot in this.
I still firmly believe that Zac Efron should have been Light, and Liam Neeson playing his dad. Defoe as Ryuk has been my casting choice since the beginning.
And Zac Efron actually knows what Death Note is and watched it.
my god i forgot that zac efron literally used to have the exact same hair style as light lmfao.
The villain at the heart of Death Note is the evil in the human heart.
I recall a proverb that says, within each person battles a good dog and a bad dog. The one that wins will be the one you feed. (It might have been in Avatar)
Exercising the power to kill over and over and over again is feeding the bad dog.
Jason Clark that’s from Tomorrowland.
It's an old native American(not sure which tribe) proverb, but with wolves instead of dogs.
I have never seen DeathNote the anime or even read the manga but I had friends who told me about both series and I am not interested in seeing the American bastardization at all. (When will we stop making remakes of foreign movies? It is possible for American audiences to enjoy them without the Americanization)
You should start with the manga, if you don't feel like going through it even though it's really good, go for the anime.
You need to see the anime. It is SO much better
The Japanese live action movies are good too.
Bro, you need to watch the anime or read the manga. Or at least watch the anime. Trust me, it is incredible.
@@martinkolakowski2888 yep, they are a great alternative for people who prefer live action things.
A sequel is actually in the works right now last time I checked. Which means... Oh crap.
bladersmosh why are hollywood and netflix so blatantly stupid? I get when something is successful, but if its obviously not then why on earth continue?!
Did he just say kira menas light in russian?
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No seriously. Did I get something wrong?
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Doc Crazy Kyr means ray of light now?
it kind of does. see you're assuming someone is naming themselves a noun or a verb, but if you look at actual names. Kira and it's many variations, which originally started being used as names in Hebrew, Prussian, and Celtic and is also a latin word meaning light. yes you could make an argument that prussian is not russian but since the name kira is more common in russia than any other country, it's a moot point. and the name was popular long before the manga, just look at Kira Kirillovna the grand duchess of Russia.
You cant make someone kill someone else using the deathnote!!!!!!! Its stated clearly in the anime.
And the movie has shown repeatedly that it dies not care.
And in the book Light isn't a complete pussy. It's an adaptation, get over it.
they literally show a guy blow himself up near his subordinates...in the manga that rule is established so that no one other than the intended person dies or gets hurt...here its fucking incostant
@@TheEnderLeader1 Bruh.
Actually, Light killing the FBI agents following the possible Kiras was the second dumbest thing he did.
Speaking of which, if Death Note was set in 2017, Light might have been discovered sooner because of the internet
The Imaginary Axis?
The Warhammer Podcast There was internet in 2006
pretty sure light is smart enough to keep info and play 200+ steps ahead
the internet can only do so much when they lack some private info
(eg: nobody but me knows my fake Japanese name that I use in RPGs to blend the protagonist in the settings)
MinerDude369 the manga was written in 2003. Internet existed, but it wasn’t the same as today at all.
Internet is occasionally used in the manga, but it's nowhere near to what it is if it had been set in the present day. There's very little investigating done with the actual internet - it's moreso a communication aid and little else.
Those were the greatest twist ending and ending credits I've ever seen in my entire life.
Ehhh... about having Watari kill L? That wouldn't work.
One of the rules of the Death Note, I believe (It's been forever, so don't get mad) was that if a person's Cause of Death would affect the life of another person, without the use of that person's full name, would only result in a heart attack after 40 seconds. As much shit as I give this movie, and I give it a LOT, I admit... they followed that rule.
Within the context of the manga, you're correct. But in the movie (which I admit, I should have pointed this out in more detail) the NK general who kills himself does so with a grenade when he had at least a few subordinates around. They're dead. :P
Which was stupid because they changed the rules of the death note. It shouldn't have happened because according to the real rules of the death note, the NK general should have died of a heart attack, he shouldn't have used the grenade.
@@KrimsonRogue Oh, ok. Sorry Krimson. I didn't mean to come off as like, that nerd who gives shit to someone for having a single misstep on an adaptation of something. It's just that as I heard that, I had the rules flash through my head over and over, and to a point, I remembered how... strange the rules could be. Like, if someone is over a certain age, they can't be killed? WTF? But you're right, the general DID kill those other subordinates. I guess I was going for assuming they were killed off later in like, a hospital or something.
in the manga it wouldn't work, here they barely follow their own rules, and that 40 second rule was not mentioned so the audience has no reason to believe it is not possible ...it is a perfectly valid criticism for the movie
@@KrimsonRogue ignoring the argument of "just heart attack" vs "dealers choice" the manga also had a number of points that would break the "no secondary death" rule. If someone died while driving a truck, their truck was now racing down the street without a driver. The same with the pilot of plane. so if someone would have died with a live grenade in their hand, the grenade would still have exploded.
15:22 Amazing coincidence here: The magazine is called Deux. Which is pronounced exactly like "Dø", the Danish word for "Die".
~ TDG
TheDanishGuyReviews "It's German for "The, Bart, The."
L becoming the new Kira would have been an interesting ending with what they did with L's character.
15:03
Me and my friend had a long argument about this rule
It ended in both of us looking like perverts.
Ryuk in this movie was genuinely perfect. I watched it literally just to see how he'd be, and I didn't regret it a bit.
8:16 Have we completely forgotten about Light's honorable family ethic? Like, what makes his father so painfully heartbreaking, to his very last living moment!?!?
That's something I hate, when a manga writer love a shitty adaptation of their work. The writer of Rurouni Kenshin absolutely loved the live action movies based on his work even though the director pretty much used the source material in the same way as Michael Bay did with Transformers.
It's possible that he might have just been being a fair sport about it...not too unlike the attitude Lloyd Alexander adopted toward the Disney adaptation of his work, "The Black Cauldron".
+IAmTheUnion True with Lloyd Alexander to an extent. I just read the original "Black Cauldron" for a children's literature class I'm taking, and Alexander fully admitted that the movie is pretty much an entirely different story from his work. He DID say that was why he liked it, but it was basically him admitting that Disney was not accurate in terms of adapting the original work. I'm not saying Disney's adaptation was shitty (I can't say that - I haven't watched it myself) but it was, based on what I read, not very faithful to the actual story he penned.
Sander Nielsen rorouni kenshin live action was pretty good in my opinion.. its one of the best adaptation for me.
Sander Nielsen which is why I have a lot more respect for Akira Toriyama. He was so disgusted with what they did to his work when they made Dragonball Evolution that it inspired him to return to the Dragonball universe. So basically because of Dragonball Evolution we got Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, and Dragonball Super. So while Dragonball Evolution is a pile of garbage, excrement, and vomit at least one good thing came out of it.
But Ruronin Kenshin was not a bad movie itself, even if it wasn't a faithful adaptation it was still an enjoyable movie so I guess that explains it. As for this Death note adaptation...idk how one could like it. It's still just a bad movie
32:40 - Can't believe he cut the song right before it goes "hey I got you flowers" as she lands in the flower stand XD
Playing Tenacious D at the ferris wheel scene was brilliant, I laughed so hard I cried XD
"I do handstands- its not pretty!"
My favorite line of the show
As soon as the Death Note intro started at the end, I was just hit by nostalgia so hard. Such a good intro.
When L died, my heart died
Luckily, in the Netflix adaptation, L didn't die.
30:59, To be fair, that was one of the most hilarious scenes in the movie. It totally encapsulates everything wrong with this adaptation and everyone involved is somehow still surprised by it.
Light in russian is "свет" or "svet", not "kira". Russian ussian don't have this word...
Okay one thing about the live action I wasn’t mad about, was this scene 10:10 personally if I were in that situation, I would most likely faint or react the same as Light. But as a character who’s fatal flaw is Pride, I understand why you don’t like it. It shows weakness in that scene, and Light as a character and entity would never do that, intentionally or not.
But also, who in their right mind (besides Light) wouldn’t be terrified of Ryuk? He’s horrifying in the live action
Don't know if the older forms of the language from the time when the Celts were dominant was majorly different but at least in Irish/Gaelge Light is not Kira. Heck we don't even have the letter k in Irish. Our word is Solas.
Seosamh Wray you don’t have K... wait so is it actually pronounced “Seltis”?
Thomas takes a toll for the dark The letter c in Celtic languages is pronounced like a k, so they don’t need to also have the letter k. Kira as a name is the respelling of Ciara, which actually means “dark”.
Whose that voice of Ryuk it is pretty good?
I asked that before and Krismon said it was the show editor, Austin.
@@carissacarlson1418 i asked the same thing. Thanks for the answer
This editing is truly phenomenal
Thanks! It means a lot to know my contributions are appreciated. :)
Personally, and for whatever reason, my favorite edit the part where Ryuk was going across the ceiling. The shot of the camera, the fact you could only see the the whole head except the jaw, his glide across the top of the screen, Krim's reaction, it all catered to my weird taste in comedic stuffs. Other than that, yeah, great work man
Regarding the sun:
🎶Not anymore there a blanket 🎶
It is one minor detail, but Light's hair bugs me in this. I remember watching the anime when I was younger, Light was seen as this charismatic, smart and good-looking guy. This version of him is none of those. I loved the mind games between L and Light in the anime it made each episode exciting. This movie I could probably fall asleep to out of boredom.
No, Kira isn't light in Russian. It's rare female name))))
selenium Kyr means ray of light no?
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 No, it doesn't mean anything in Russian. Also, I don't think it's a rare name, if it is, it's probably on a microscopic level kind of rare.
One of my favorite things about the series was the gothic aesthetic. Just another thing the film fails on top of 678 other things.
That is literally the gun from the first Blade Runner. They blatantly ripped off a prop from a classic science fiction movie from 1982 and thought NOBODY would notice. Screw this movie.
OK, so this is just going off of what I've seen from this review... when L suspects Light of being Kira, there is actual evidence to back it up other than "just a hunch" basically. As far as I can see, the first few killings of Kira started with the school bully and mrs. Turners murderer. All L has to do is figure out the connection between Light and the killer and BOOM. And if that's not enough all he has to do is go back a bit further and realize Kira also struck at the school and it's more evidence Light is Kira, BOOM BOOM! Of course, one could raise the question of "what would make L think these death's were the work of Kira? Yeah these death's are strange but people sometimes die in weird ways right?" Yes, they do... and that's why you gotta think, "do these death's match up with Kira's methods of killing?" As far as I could see(from this review alone), Light mainly kills in weird and bizarre ways, again, all L has to do is make the connection cause, you know, he's goddamned L. Then again this is all going off of what I've seen for this review so maybe I missed something or didn't think of something well enough. Anyone feel free to correct me if these are the cases(or call me out if I didn't make sense here).
As for you Krim... great review man. Heh, I loved the idea the idea for this review's setup(the actor playing Ryuk has a kind of voice that sorta goes well with comedic bits, but also can be intimidating when able), and that ending was pretty bittersweet. You were so excited and then the twist happened and it all went to utter shit(but the biggest twist of all was your ability to write decently while drunk/ high... ok I know the zoom into Strife's name was supposed to add to the bittersweet feel, but common, you can't deny that's another way it could've been taken). Overall, I did like this review, great work as always man, keep on keeping on when you have the time
There was nothing connecting these kills so there was no way to assume all these kills could be the work of Kira. In the anime/manga/Japanese live action movies the connection was the heart attacks but in the Netflix movie he didn't use heart attacks. He used different methods each and every time so there shouldn't have been a single death that connected Kira to the crime. The fact that L found him in Seattle was stupid too. Because his tox screen was clean, he was killed by Kira? He could have just had a mental illness and he hadn't even thought of that which was dumb. Plus anyone could have looked up that news online like Light did and killed the guy but L didn't think of that either. This L in the Netflix movie is dumb. In the anime/manga/Japanese live action he found out that Kira could kill by using a name and a face, he also found out that Kira could manipulate how a person could die and could manipulate the time of death too. The Netflix L was just working on big fat assumptions. Going on live broadcast proved nothing. He thought he could kill him but just couldn't but those were big ifs because maybe he wasn't watching and even if Kira was, maybe he didn't want to. Netflix L still didn't really know how Kira did his killings and was working with assumptions unlike the anime/manga/Japanese live action L who knew based on the media's release on convicts whose names were misspelled and survived because of it. Netflix L sucked as L because he did a Hollywood version of asperger's instead of trying to play someone who actually had asperger's like the Japanese live action counterpart did.
Also William Defoe may have been a great voice but too bad the charcter Ryuk was messed up. Ryuk was neutral. He never had a hand in anything but in the Netflix version he goaded Light into killing and then he tried goading Light into giving up the death note. Something that the Ryuk in the anime/manga/Japanese live action movies would have never done.
... OK, first to tackle that last point... I agree, but I never brought up Ryuk at all so that was you venting...
As for the rest... Aaaahh, a fair point. Your absolutely right, there IS nothing connecting these deaths together. The only thing that connected them post Light becoming Kira is when the writing praising Kira is brought up. So yes, you'd be right... in any other circumstance. In this case though, we talkin bout friggin L man. Sure Netflix L was crap, but my point was he didn't NEED to be because there was an opportunity to make him not RIGHT THERE! Yes, there's no outward connection, but think of it this way... L in the original story was basically anime Sherlock Holmes, analyzing the minute details(something that Krim even brought up), looking at every possible angle because it Could be important. And in most cases he was right. He took notice of the school hostage situation as a very early instance of heart attacks around the world... out of over 1000 other cases. He had to DIG to find that shit. So I don't think it's unfair to say this L looking into the murder of the mother killer and bully are to far-fetched. Especially since, those deaths, aren't really common. I mean, come on, impaled by a dinner knife "accidentally"? And ESPECIALLY since that guy DID have a criminal mark on his record despite being found innocent. And once L knows what the mark was about, and connects the dots, BOOM! He'd have a much better Check for check-mate than whatever he pulled in this movie. Also, the bully, again, I don't think decapitation from ladders is common... unless I'm living in the wrong place :3 Regardless, I'd think that's still big enough and odd enough to check into. But what the heck, we'll say that death is akin to Light's second murder in the original with the gang member for the attempted rape where he was ran over, something that wouldn't be that suspicious(even if it really should be but for a possible justification to why L wouldn't check it out, fine).
Either way, I wouldn't think this is to far leaps in logic to pin point Light as Kira, at the very least no bigger than what this movie did, and at least it keeps with L's character from the Manga
My point is, L in this movie COULD have been like the original more, but it wasn't thought through enough. Missed, Opportunity :/
@@thedoorman6940 It's still a reach. Those are criminals you're talking about, dying impaled by a knife is the most normal death one could think for a criminal. Criminals die everyday killed by other criminals, and since there was absolutely nothing connecting the deaths it is a reach to say movie L found a connection somehow, because there are many other more believable possibilities that you would think the best detective in the world can come up with to explain said deaths other than "God Kira". Movie L deductions were stupid and honestly he just came up with those conclusions thanks to something called plot convenience.
Wait, what? A terrorist took himself and his cohort out with a grenade? That contradicts the rules of Death Note! If the death of the person the way it’s written leads to other people’s deaths, the cause of death will switch to a heart attack instead.
Edit: The fuck? Burning the page saves someone’s life? That’s against the rules also! The writing is permanent.
The problem I have with this version of the Death Note is that it is TOO powerful. He's essentially the writer of his own movie.
screaming for your life when you see a literal demon makes more since
True... but that's still a hilarious scream.
Ashton Greso so?
not to mention the character differences. in the manga and anime light had already been using the notebook for like a week. he had deduced there was supernatural shit going on already.
in the NFLA version he picked up the book 20 minutes ago, and his first hint at the supernatural is a giant 8 foot tall dude stalking him in the corner.
It’s not about being relatable thought. That’s the point. Light isn’t supposed to be relatable.
The quality of this review is outstanding! You did a fantastic job Krimson 😀
The musical adaptation to death note (yes there really is a death note musical and it actually slaps) got the characterization and plot better than the Netflix adaptation. And that’s just very funny to me.
Also you should totally check out the musical if you’re into that sort of stuff. It’s really good. There’s only an English demo soundtrack but a full video of the Korean production is here on UA-cam!!!!
Making an adaptation this shitty should be illegal.
edit: Also, that L portrayal was shit, did we watch the same movie? Okay, I still liked the video for Tenacious D.
*sees this in notifications*
*drops cat*
*throws homework aside*
*grabs alcohol and popcorn*
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This is gonna be fucking good I AM HYPED
Dafoe was great but he was playing a reserved Green Goblin playing Ryuk
You’re videos have come so far. Love your videos Krim
Also the one major flaw in this adaptation Japanese myth and lore about their creatures going to other country, supposedly once you leave Japan you've become a Gaijin, also you would think other demons creatures and other such things wouldn't be very kind to a Japanese daddy running amok in America,
first off, that isn't what gaijin means. plenty of people travel abroad without magically becoming not Japanese anymore you dumbass.
second, death gods are not from earth, they don't have any nationality, they come from another plane of existence and are able to look at the entire earth through windows. they wouldn't give a single care if they were in japan, Canada, or sub-Saharan Africa as long as they had people to kill.
also assuming there were other types of super natural creatures in the death note universe, what makes you think any of them would be able to see let alone have any authority over ACTUAL FUCKING GODS.
you racist idiot.
Hmm, really old but just wanted to clarify this: Ryuk is not a Japanese creature. In every culture around the world we have what we call "reapers", obviously in the anime/manga they call Ryuk a shinigami because that's the Japanese equivalent of "reaper" but not because Ryuk himself is a Japanese god or something, the author even insisted in having "God of death" as the official translation because that's what Ryuk was after all, he doesn't belong to any culture. So that's something the Netflix adaptation does wrong too, because if I don't remember wrong Ryuk present himself as a shinigami and we see Light Turner reading Japanese mythology books when they could have just introduced Ryuk as a reaper, but oh well.
They're making a movie for my favorite book series, Warriors. Will you review it when it comes out?
TheLuckOfTheClaws when you mean Warriors are you talking about the book series about the clans of cats? If so you have caught my interest.
Wait what? Warriors was my childhood... Why do they have to ruin it....
I stopped watching this movie after lights freak out, because I was too busy laughing and crying at the destruction of one of my favorite characters of deathnote.
Also William Defo is an amazing Ryuk, best part of this crappy adaptation.
Same. Ruins everthing else. Still love My Naked Brothers band boi. He was better in paper towns
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19:43 That reminds me. I know a kid who acts like an internet troll irl. I used to have gym with him, and he would constantly make jokes about the holocaust and say that it didn't happen in a fashion similar to the way the Jehova's Witnesses try to recruit people. It was clear that he didn't actually believe any of the things that he was saying and that he was just trying to be funny/edgy. However, the fact that nobody ever laughed and instead just tried to ignore him when he did this probably should have tipped him off to the fact that nobody thinks that he's funny, and instead just find him incredibly obnoxious and thought he was being inappropriate. I was literally the only one who said anything about it and brought it up to other people, because I don't let that kind of thing fly. Screw you Ben! Screw! You!
7:25 my guess for why he isn't finishing the homework is that people are paying for him to complete just enough as to be a passing grade for them and then they will fill out the other questions to make the homework look believable. if you are a crap student but then suddenly turn in A+ homework then that may turn some heads, but this is just a guess and probably more thought than the movie put into this scene lol
Making light a geeky loser completely takes away the amount of power and influence he had in the manga. Because light was so high in popularity at his school, it shows just how much people are willing to sway in his favor, making him be more of a threat. Light in the manga was not only a genius, he had his standards and goals set and didn’t need to be pushed around by people unless it helped in achieving his goals. What they did with American Light really takes away his power because his status shows he is neither smart enough nor influential enough to sway people in his favor. He would get pushed around without any real goal set in mind. This light is not a threat, he’s a weak loser that is incapable achieving any sort of goals.
i wrote in my biology teachers name (with a date past when i graduate school, you know still want his edcuation) when i was 11yo. Found it a couple years ago and had to cross his name just in case lol
Whenever I hear Ryuk in the movie speak all I can think is “WANNA USE THE DEATH NOTE SPIDER-MAN?
What I really wished they would've done, is have this as a sequel to the original death note story. That way, they could have their own characters and plot in the same universe without having to worry about adapting the original Death Note story again. I believe others have mentioned this idea as well. I honestly can't believe something like this hasn't happened yet, considering how popular Death Note still is. A continuation to the original story would be better, rather than having a million different adaptations of the same story over and over again.
38:28 YOU DIDN'T TOOK A POTATO CHIP NOR ATE IT
*instant dislike*
In case no one else has mentioned it, legkiy is Russian for light & solas is Celtic/Irish for light.
Kira is a name in both Russian and Celtic cultures, it means light in Latin. why would you assume someone would name themselves off of a noun and not... you know, a fucking name.
30:42 I am almost certain that's a leftover prop from Bladerunner...
Hated the movie, loved Ryuk, liked the style
Also, Kira does not translate to light in either Russian or Celtic, so it's also complete bullshit.
the netflix version was sooo bad and completely ruined the concept of deathnote .. like L and Light are the biggest idiots ever
True, but it was a whole lot more fun to watch than the mindnumbingly dull Japanese films. It's kind of like The Great Gatsby. The best film adaptation is the incredibly stupid and immature one by virtue of not being bland as shit.
The Japanese films were not dull. They are actually my favorite versions of death note. They even make changes from the manga themselves but they don't deviate from the source material and that is why it's so good. Light is still a genius. L is still intelligent but has all his autistic quirks, and Misa is still a loyal follower to Light. They didn't ruin the characters like they did in the Netflix movie.
27:17 Yeah that would definitely not have flown in the Anime because you cannot set up a scenario where one death note victim causes another die...that was not written in the death note or at least written in a way that kind of fusses the two death note victims together with or without some sudden manipulation. (see the live action English dub versions to know what I am talking about). If the movie clearly established that you cannot (which it did not considering Turners plan when he was in a coma) the a death note victim can kill someone else and the himself without at least writing something connecting the two victims..then that would have been the most sensible option.
I am so excited to watch this!! I love your videos Krimson :)
Could we possibly get a TBWB on It or The Shining?
This movie, the Dragonball one and so many others, is the reason I'm starting to think movie creators hates movies and deliberately makes them bad to make people lose interest in them.
I read the entire manga series when it first came out, as well.
Needless to say, I loved it.
I also watched the anime series (which I really liked).
But I NEVER watched this abomination! (for all the reasons Krimson listed above).
This adaptation goes beyond White-washing bad.
It goes beyond over-the-top acting bad.
Light and L are so dumbed-down in this, that it's like watching Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Moriarty adapted into Loony Toons characters.
You should watch the Japanese TV drama, its less faithful than the anime but its incredibly well done
I loved the skits in this! Great job. Definitely one of my favorite episodes.
Thanks! :D
8:26 I mean the fact that teachers rarely intervene in bullying incidents until its to late, and school literally does not give out punishments that effects the bully, I'm not surprised, if a teacher is literally there when a student literally threatens to smash another's head into a rock and does jack shit about it why would they stop it when it becomes physical violence.
@10:26
Listening to Ryuk's laugh while Light became hysterical is too infectious!
The fucked up part is that something like a death note could easily go undetected as long as the owner doesn't go after personal enemies or declare themselves god. But that wouldn't make for a compelling series.