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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Chris Gore and Alan Ng review “Trap,” now playing in theaters.
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Saleeka is M. Night's daughter, not niece.
The real trap is M. Night tricking people to come to theaters thinking they're going to watch a thriller, but then forcing them to watch his daughter sing & act.
The singing isn’t terrible but her acting is horrifically bad, and her character choices as an actor are even more horrific, she goes from pop star to Batman to fbi profiler in 20 minutes
M. portrays her uncle in the film.
@@d.a.baracus His daughter's acting and singing was the least of this movie's problems. 🤦♂️😅
The music was awesome
Ignorance was Ms. Bliss in this movie. The profiler lady working with the FBI was Zack Morris teacher in Saved by the Bell.
*Saleka is M. Night Shyamalan's daughter.*
*It turns not only into a girl boss movie, it also is a clear nepo movie.*
Yup. This was pretty much an audition tape to the world, he's like hey look at my daughter, she can sing and dance 🤦
@@JanFWeh huh it doesn’t turn into a girlboss movie. He’s clearly in control
Correct, it was in the movie that M. Night's character was Lady Raven's uncle. Another daughter, Ishana directed the Dakota Fanning movie The Watchers that also came out this year.
I really wanted this movie to be good. Interesting concept, could have been great. And sounds like the movie was a cover to showcase his daughter’s music.
She gets wayyy too much screentime and her acting is pretty wooden.
The his daughter had plot armor in the movie big time
M nights movies are always a miss re watch the village the happening etc he's made crappy films since he started
Dammit I also want this to be good since I haven't seen Josh Hartnett for a very long time
I agree. Great concept. I love Hartnett as an actor. This video was just crushing. I was fired up for this one.
The twist is the whole movie, which is a music video for the singer.
I think if you switch the concert to a sports game, it would work a lot better. Gives it a clock ticking down. I also think the whole movie should have been in the stadium
@@EnthusiasticLock-hn4qp too bright in a stadium. No shady dark areas to escape via.
Oh boy The M.Knight Shamaliens have stuck again. Did he just try to Will Smith his daughter's career!?
@@dulio12385 Whatever ever happened to Jayden Smith anyway
@@ZM-dm3jg he is such a bad actor that even Lying scummy Hollywood Power holder types had to admit it.
Also I remember seeing things that both Jaden and his sister were utterly horrible to deal with. They are just like Jada, that they believe they are King God and Queen-Goddesses "blessing" everyone by "lowering" themselves to be amongst all of us unworthy serfs, plebians, and nothings.
@@MG-me7iw uh-huh. Sure!
@@Dias_De_Noe 🤣 "well adjusted" = bat shit crazy
I work at a movie theater and saw this film with my co-workers. My out of theater reaction was that the first half was good, but the second half was bad, mainly due to it dragging on for WAY too long. But all my co-workers said my critisims were "like CinemasSins" or "thats just M.Nightshamalan" as if those were arguments.
The entire premise of the movie doesn't even make sense. If the FBI had caught the main character how would they have even identified him? Stupid 🤷♂️🤦♂️😅
agreed : ending dragged bad.
The first half was so exciting! I liked the "eyeline to the audience".
Are we allowed to delete some stuff and start over again? Lol.
So is this just a vehicle to boost his daughter's career?
Pre-review: Ive been dying to find somewhere to comment this. The BIG question I have from the trailer is HOW TF does all this work? They have some guy 'trapped' but they OBVIOUSLY don't know who he is or what he looks like since he is walking through police lines. So HOW TF can they be sure they got him in the trap? HOW TF do they expect to keep him? Or to sort him from the thousands of others? The way he walks around in the ad makes it look like he can leave just by faking/tricking someone.
AND.... WHY TF would you put like 10k people in a trap and expect to sort one dude out of it? Its TOO BIG. Too much area... Too many people... Too much time... Its not like EVERYONE is gonna wait til the end of the concert to leave. You can't lock down thousands of people, like physically can't. The most likely result is a riot once someone says 'serial killer'. Or at least a panicked crowd trampling anyone/thing that gets in its way cops/barriers/etc. It's like they are trying to cause mass casualties just for the lulz.
And being inside a city just makes it worse. MAYBE if this was 2-400 at some desert fire festival MAYBE. You could set up a perimeter and watch for anyone crossing the desert. But this just looks dumb as a premise.
I'm not saying the movie is bad... Just that it's starting with a MAJOR negative factor. I predict a lot of plot contrivances to make ANYTHING happen in this movie.
The problem with your comment is that it makes toooo much sense.
FBI have physical evidence that serial killer may be there. No proof to bring THIS many resources
They literally explain every question you have in the movie.
@@cainemarko5021 I was just saying that's what I got from the trailer. And Just because they 'explain' it doesn't mean its a 'good' explanation.
Ok, I've seen the film, but even if I hadn't your questions wouldn't make any sense. The Trap is set in a stadium with a fixed number of entrances and exits. When entering the stadium, everyone needed to go through a metal detector and other security measures (that's standard operating procedure for any large gathering/event). The event is a concert with a pop idol and they are looking for a middle aged male... not a lot of those are going to be there. So, there are like 50k people at the event, but maybe only a few hundred dads there with their daughters. So, you simply reverse the entry procedure and have the people leave through specific points where the adult middle-aged men are separated to be questioned. Even if someone left early, they'd have to leave through one of those check points. Also, this was in the preview, but throughout the concert, they are pulling men from the crowd to question them, so they aren't simply waiting for the end of the concert either.
The concept is fine, the execution was... meh. There were a lot of contrivances, most of which weren't necessary. Still that part of the movie was fine... until they left the concert and everything fell apart. Up until that it was a fun and decent movie... but the third act was terrible in almost every way, with the only redeeming factors being Josh Harnett's and Alison Pill's performances towards the end. Everything else was predictable, absurd, and sometimes laughable about that third act. Regular security guards at an arena making mistakes and being lax with the rules, sure... but FBI and SWAT trained agents being that lenient with the perp they know is a violent serial killer... nope, never would happen.
Dude, sorry but Old is the shittiest movie I've seen in all my life, starti with everyone's acting and dialogue!
200% true. Chris just lost credibility points with me now.
Old sucked so bad
IMO.
M Night doesn't really know how to end a film.
Maybe he needs someone to help him, but is it possible for such a person to exist, given MNS’s personality? If someone gave him a good way to end a film, would he have the humility and sense to use it despite it not being his idea?
Glass proved that!!
Not only is this a major hill to die on, but a blazing hot take of truth.
True. The Visit is one exemple of a movie that could be great, but it ended up just being meh.
I think he should have just kept this movie at the stadium.
He is the most hit and miss movie creator of all time! He comes up with some amazing ideas and concepts, some he executes perfectly and creates brilliance and then the others the first thirty minute set up is incredible and the final hour is a total let down and disappointment. I was hoping this would be awesome as I loved the concept.
I just can't believe he cast Miss Bliss to boss everyone around like her classroom on Saved by the Bell: The Indiana Years.
😆 wtf was that Old Witch doing there? This Movie had so much potential
They should have cast the Zack Morris actor as the dad, that would have been hilarious. lol
I saw the trailer and was interested until I saw Shyamalan's name attached to it, other than Sixth Sense his movies have all disappointed me...and in the realm of young boys who see dead people movies I like Stir of Echos better.
Signs and Village ain't that bad
@@captnwinkle😂 The Village is an idiotic movie.
@@troymash8109 The Village is awful.
Hayley Mills in The PARENT Trap...
A serial killer with a family? Like BTK?
@@ScottRKrol That's what I was thinking
@@welcometokookvillesame with that guy they caught on Long Island. Has a wife and daughter
Dexter is a version of Batman theoretically. The comparison is even referred to in the end of Season 1.
None of his films "holds up" they don't warrant repeat watches and once you know the twist the films never stand on their own. 6th sense is DAM boring once you know the mystery. Unbreakable isn't bad but again, once you know the end the beginning just seems dumb
You don't know what you are talking about as the 6th Sense is better on rewatches, because there are so many details that hint at the twist that you didn't pay attention to on the first or second viewing. I had the ending of Unbreakable spoiled for me before I even watched the film and it still holds up. Signs, Unbreakable, and The Village all hold up to repeat viewing for me... but the most of his films don't hold up to first viewings... The Happening, The Last Airbender, After Earth... all terrible on any viewing.
His hooks are always great but by the end of his movies you've watched an after school special.
I only went to see this movie because of Josh Hartnett and in that regard I was not disappointed but the movie was kind of meh. I didn't think the execution of the FBI setting up the Trap was fleshed out very well. What were they going to do just grab every man and assume they could somehow discern the killer from what interrogating them all?
That seemed to be their idea... but they had so many conflicting descriptions even the tattoo thing wouldn't have lead them to the guy they were after. However, an interrogation would have given them a small pool of likely suspects. For a serial killer, they can't last long once suspicion is on them as there would be someone trying to tie them to every crime from that point on, which would make it impossible for him to keep doing what he does.
The eyeliner straight at the camera was a trick used in Silence of the Lambs.
Anthony Hopkins gives his dialogue straight to camera when talking to Jodie Foster.
Hayley Mills, in a sequel to 1961's "The Parent Trap," is the true M. Night twist being meta this time, since the actual film's twist is given away in the trailer.
The anticipated sequel to the beach that makes you old
Lady Raven is played by M Night's daughter, not niece!
Yea! How dare they get that wrong! It is such an important fact in life! How will we move on!!!😭😭😭
@@sarahmcdonald9624triggered.
I would totally recommend it. It’s hilarious - Josh Hartnett is GREAT. And the unfolding of the story is FUN.
When the twist was revealed i was pleasantly surprised!! Hayley Mills twin sister was the killer!! Sorry to be a huge spoiler…
Are you though? You posted this comment so you can’t be that sorry
@@sarahmcdonald9624 They're saving us our time and money.
There were huge plot holes that were just ridiculous, but with strong acting performances, good directing, it was fun. I give it a 7/10.
When Gore said "always has a twist" I immediately thought "oh shit the serial killer is..." 😅😅😅
Hope I'm wrong but you may get what the twist is.
his daughter? or M Night?
Either the daughter or the singer
My guess was the daughter
I haven't seen the movie, so this isn't spoilers: I thought it was hinting at the daughter being the killer in the first trailer I saw, but then a second longer one came out that seemed to make it more clear it is him, and this review also seems to imply there isn't a twist on the killer's identity.
But now I can't help but feel like if it was the daughter all along and that he is trying to protect her the whole time that would make things more interesting. For one, it would give some more personality to him, as he isn't the killer but because of the family bond he ends up being supportive of her murderous ways. This could even make him consider the possibility of letting her get caught to free himself from letting her commit the murders, as he doesn't like them but isn't willing to stop her. It would create an interesting dynamic between them as a family. But I don't know if the movie has its own dynamics that are as interesting as that yet.
I just can't with M.Nightshamalangdingdongs shitty movies anymore. He made one okay film. The rest are horrible.
Adult themes for people who struggle with basic math. And the nanes of his characters, e.g. Cypher Raige...WTF, is he 5 years old?
Unbreakable was good. That's about it.
He’s such an original, great film maker.
@@truthhurts837 there are plenty of overrated directors. He is not original.
Hayley Mills in “The Acolyte”. I see what you did there.
I did not understand his statement until I read your comment, "twins"? Am I right, please tell me I'm right?
This movie felt like an excuse to make his niece star in a concert movie. She did well singing and dancing, but her acting didn't cut it.
Yes, Josh Hartnett killed it.
Na not his niece, that was his daughter he's trying to jump start her career
A movie with this plot set at the concert only would have been terrific.
Never understood the need to popularise serial killers.
Post-modern authors love them some moral ambiguity. Can't have black and white, truth vs lie, justice vs evil. Gotta have gray areas and sob-backstories.
Well if they are fictional that is fine but when it is real that is the problem.
@@rupertsmith5815too many fictional depictions can influence IRL unfortunately. In fact looking back on it all hollywood is literally a terrible influence on people
@@michaelwills1926 well dude a movie has never made someone become a psychopath.
Like you’re not gonna become a knife wielding psychopath after watching Halloween.
People that take influence already have massive issues and there were serial killers before films were a thing .
So I don’t think that is a valid argument
@x-wingflyboy8177 If they're fictional who cares.
Would've been better if he'd actually outsmarted everyone rather than what actually happened.
What happened? I don't plan on seeing this nepo movie
See it. It’s good.
I was expecting the daughter to be the killer and he was covering her tracks, then I was thinking the wife was his accomplice but nah the entire movie is in the trailer.
The second half of this movie is so convoluted and non sensical that it’s sometimes hard to believe what you are seeing, my god did this movie just go directly off a cliff once they leave the concert…. Smdh
M Night must be a killer in the pitch room because far more often than not he gets tons of money to make movies that are mediocre at best and I'm being kind.
Exactly. I know 10 people personally who could make something at least as interesting as anything this guy has done. What’s their secret for success I wonder
He produces and pays for his own films now because he’s made so much money making original, great films. Keep discussing his immensely intriguing ideas.
I did like "The Sixth Sense" and "Signs" and "Split" and "The Visit" though.
He’s such an original, great film maker
This movie seems made for those who enjoyed Criminal Minds. Fans of the series are used to seeing the family man/serial killer dynamic.
" Serial killer with a family." 😮 No way, it's so fresh, no, not fresh,crispy 😂
Ever watched 'You' on Netflix, thats a serial killer with a family as well
I feel like this is a movie that in 20 years SHOULD be remade, Its a great concept, its 70% a good movie, and it could be awesome. I think M Night kniws this is a plug for his kid, And i think there are moments in the movie where that is translated to JH's character and child.
I was enjoying it up to the point when M. Night Shyamalan inserted himself in. The dialogue was not good, but Josh Hartnett did the best he could with what he was given. After the concert I was done.
I am in the theater now. Going to watch it in spite of my doubts. When you were talking about the uniqueness of a serial killer with a family, all I could think of was BTK.
I didn’t mind Glass. It’s still the last movie he made that I watched.
Hayley Mills? THE Hayley Mills?!
I want to know too.
@@anonmouse956 THE Hayley Mills…who was sadly *way* underused.
I did a double take too! Hayley Mills? My 60’s childhood crush Hayley? They passed over that info like she just pops up in stuff all the time.
@@chanceotter8121 They *did* mention how poorly she was used, so at least there’s that.
It doesn't make sense.
They know there's a serial killer there but they don't know who he is and they surround the place why wouldn't they just get them before or after It doesn't make sense how do they not know where he lives? how do they know that he's there?
It just seems stupid I ended up watching the whole commercial cuz it kept playing it It looks stupid
I’m hungover/buzzed as hell at 2:30 am and as I was stuffing fries in my mouth just hearing “lady raven” made me laugh and almost choked to death on one of them fries
Yup,I was also lost after the 1st Act.The 3rd Act plays like an episode of Law & Order.Bum-Bummm
He wants to leave the concert but his child wants to stay... how ever will he solve such a conundrum?!?
- Godfather voice - "You can act like a MAN!"
And basically all the other dialog from that whole scene between Corleone and Fontane is eerily appropriate to this here Trap movie...
"What's the matter with you? Is this what you've become, a Hollywood finocchio who cries like a woman? 'Oh, what do I do? What do I do?' What is that nonsense? Ridiculous!"
"Tell me, do you spend time with your family?"
I kept hoping for a killer twist, like his daughter or wife was the butcher.
For real Hayley Mills is in this movie.
The scariest part of the movie was the 80 year old Hayley Mills heading an FBI team and even used a taser on Josh.
2 sh*tty Shymalan movies in one year?? That's a record 😭
I really enjoyed this film.
Same
I will not talk about spoiler. Less than 30 sec, another spoiler 🤣
Too bad you left because the movie was really good. By the 3rd act it turns into a dark film.
Serial killers have families too, Chris…
Fun but imperfect execution on a very intriguing premise. M. Night is ALWAYS a coin toss, but I thought Trap was totally worth seeing for Hartnett and the twist.
A good twist to this movie would have been Josh Hartnett's character using his mind to frame his murders onto the redheaded mother at the concert, Jody's mother. It would have made so much sense, especially when Jody's mother said to Josh's character that she has a dark side, and she said it in front of the police. It would have made it great, because the cops were looking for a male, but the crime is pushed onto a woman, who unexpectedly takes the fall for the murders, and then Josh's character escapes the concert that way, and that's how the movie ended. It would have proved how genius he is in evading the law, but no they couldn't go this way because it would mess up the agenda in the movie. This is white straight men bad, and women in general are good. This is also coming from me, a black man saying this. If I can see it then it was obvious and true.
The serial killer aspect of Josh's character was never developed. There was never anything in the movie that indicated any derangement of this kind. He could have been just anyone who committed a serial crime and so tried to evade law enforcement during the concert and so provided opportunities for the audience into listening to entire songs and then seeing Lady Saleka playing sleuth in the third act.
Thanks for the review.
check out M Nights first movie.. a simple independent movie called " praying with Anger"
At least nature/wind is not trying to kill everyone.😢
Nepotism and nihilism
💯
Thanks. A 4-5 star rating means I am waiting for streaming.
Isn’t all his movies disappointing?
The musical numbers are disappointing to me. You gotta keep the story moving. I love the trailer. Sad to hear they bungled the great potential. I'll stream it someday, just to make my own judgments. But I was hoping for a rush to the theater to see something great.
Grand Piano is a great little thriller that I'd never heard of. I was given the DVD and was pleasantly surprised. That is an example of a concert in a movie that keeps the story moving forward. Also a unique score that had to be composed before shooting as it is the concert being performed. Very cool project.
Sounds to me like Josh Hartnett went all out and did great. Plot didnt deliver.
Josh Hartnett carried this movie, he was just fun to watch in this role
Good... But 3rd act want good. Josh Hartnett is perfect tho
Most of M. Night's movies fall apart by the 3rd act.
So … A serial killer is the hero now ? … “Epstein island” is the next movie in prep for those guys ...
Nothing wrong with that. And it was from his POV not really a heroic character journey, Harnett was good to where you want to find how he'll find a way out of this scenario. He carried this imho
Oh, there were lots of movies made on that island. Blackmail and an excuse for a pdf file to indulge in his deviance under the guise of "playing along to put the marks ar ease" were the main reasons for the whole operation. Mossad (unsurprisingly considering the people its comprised of) has no morals beyond, "anything can be justified as long as we see it as beneficial to "the Chosen People.""
No he is the protagonist there is a difference and haven't you seen any gangster film ? or downfall ? or Macbeth ?
it isn't new having the villain be the lead
No. He’s not portrayed as a hero. See the movie
Old was terrible. I question Gore’s tastes sometimes lol
Look no further than his terrible take on Twisters. Her tore that movie apart and it's great.
I think it would have helped the film had we all not gone into it knowing what's going on. The play on who is Josh H's character and what he's up to would have been better. Is he the guy they are looking for, or is he just curious about the police presence? Instead, we know everything. So it rather bored me after a while. Even the ending.
It wasn't that bad. 6 or 7 out 10. I think we've become to sensitive to things like "girl bossing". I'm definitely one that can identify 'the message' more often than not in media. Shyamalan's daughter doesn't really do anything ridiculous in the movie that I want consider 'girl boss'. If you like the whole serial killer aspect of it you might enjoy it more than others, such as I. I recommend giving it a shot. And I can't stand the majority of M. Night's movies.
This movie sounds a little like 1995s Nick of Time with Johnny Depp.
Most reviews are calling this movie junk. Shocking… not…
2:18 What about Unbreakable and Signs? I loved those movies.
About Serial Ks with families and caring about them, we have a few. Ted Bundy's first long term girlfriend had a daughter and he treated her like his own. BTK had a family and he volunteered as a neighborhood security person. Never heard of him treating his family badly. The last one, Rex Heuermann. And this one is really goofy. Probably the goofiest. I can't talk about the movie cause I haven' seen it yet.
Just reveal the spoilers, no one is going to see this movie.
I saw it. It’s good. So many reviews online. People are watching.
If Josh overplayed it, that would be because of the direction he got from M.Knight.
To be fair I'm not really a fan of many of his movies purely down to the way he always tries to subvert expectations etc, most are not for me but he does have a few I like.
Josh is a solid actor, in my opinion, and I tend to like all his stuff. I don't think he dropped a bad performance I think he was directed to
Wife: "How was your day, dear?"
Husband: "Or just doing some chopping... If you know what I mean."
Here comes Alan with his Politics.
This looks really stupid.
I saw this on Thursday and I enjoyed it.
I thought the twist would be cooper wasn't the killer, but had trapped the killer.
The twist is, it was Legs Day not Traps
when i saw the preview i thought it was a remake of kevin costners no way out.
I will say the last few movies have had really good trailers so whoever is doing that for Mr Shyamalan you’re doing a great job. But inevitably the movies themselves are a massive letdown. I can see we have yet another one here and I wish I could say I’m surprised.
I was with until the very end where his daughter was forced to improvise against the killer and start acting lol
It’s a long concert video for his daughter. You guys are reviewing the wrong aspects of the film.
@@thesean3194 why did you spoil the twist?
2:32 what was the twist actually? Movie was a run on sentence.
Why even watch it when the trailer showed everything
The premise is confusing. How did law enforcement know that the Butcher was going to the concert? Did they do a give away of a pair of tickets? Did he announce he was going to attend? Did they believe he was a big fan of the singer? That's like assuming the Zodiac killer was going to the Monterey Pop Festival. You said he was trapped because they were interviewing all the men, how?! What were they asking? Do you have any serial killer proclivities? Just the premise is enough to keep me away. BTW, giving away the twists would not hurt its success or failure.
They were tipped off that he would be at that concert there are profilers their who's job is to deduce based on behaviour who is a serial killer.
and stuff like that does happen recently 14 human traffickers were arrested at comic con and this film was loosely based off operation flagship.
and look up the Owosso wedding sting
so stuff like that do happen all though it is exaggerated in the film
@@rupertsmith5815 Thanks, none of that was mentioned in the review leaving me confused.
His wife was suspicious about his behavior, so she left a strategically torn concert ticket receipt at one of his safe houses, then anonymously tipped the house off to police. The receipt was torn to where there was no specific identifying info on it, other than him purchasing the tickets. The wife thought he was cheating, but had the slightest hunch that he could be up to something else.
I'm sorry, but this movie is ridiculous. And I 'm a M. Night Shyamalan fan. So many implausible situations happen, and during everyone- it took me out of the movie. Like Chris mentioned, he (and I) laughed more at this movie than most comedies and the film wasn't playing for hilarity during these circumstances. Good idea, not nearly enough application. One last thing, Lady Raven certainly took many (and long) breaks during the concert, clearly just so the story could move along.
What was the twist? I don't care about spoilers.
The twist is that there wasn’t one. This isn’t a typical MNS movie.
It was pretty much a movie written to give his daughter a platform. I've seen worse, just felt like a pointless exercise. His daughter can sing and perform at least
Was Bruce Willis still a ghost? What a Twist!! 😂🤣
The mom is girlboss
Has Josh Hartnet ever been in a good movie
And yet it's better than YOUR movie 😂😂😂
Is it tho?
@@michaelwills1926 my 15 minute movie I made for zero dollars in 1999, back when I was 16 and we didn't have super good computers to seamlessly make edits and effects, is better than his movie. So, yes.
Is Healey Mills....related to jhon Mills?