Welding is probably better for sealing and staying sealed but wouldn't say it's stronger than rivets. Welding makes seams brittle, especially if not heat treated after. I guess it depends on the number and quality of rivets. You can lap enough materials and install enough rivets to make the seams far stronger than the rest of the panel. With welding, the welds will always be weaker the the rest of the panel. Airplanes are riveted and they're pretty important to keep together. I'm sure welding has other advantages like a smoother hull and corrosion resistance but I don't think strength and durability is necessary one of them.
Lowe and Lund are made by the same company, but Lowe is supposed to be their budget friendly line. I looked at a 2020 Lowe 175c and liked the layout better than the 2020 Tracker 175, it was also about $1000 cheaper both with 75hp Mercury 4 strokes.
Lray 4x4 Ranger and Tracker are owned by bass pro, but the quality is way different because they aren’t necessarily made by bass pro. It’s the same deal with Lund and Lowe. Thanks for watching!🔥
Uhm Lund and crestliner are sister companies but I never knew Lowe was in the mix but then again that would explain why those are the 3 brands my local dealer carries
I dont know it seems like you just threw together a few brands that you like and its all wrong. The top spot would be Vexus AVX. Vexus is new to the game but they came out swinging looking for the knockout and they found it. Have you seen their transoms. Freaking bullet proof and their welds are immaculate. Runner up is Ranger RT series for second. Rangers warranty is easily in the top spot for boats. Tried and true boat brand and they are one the 19 foot RT comes with a padded hull. In last place id say Express boats. Im not personally a fan of them but they do build some nights boats and great layouts. Id nix all the flash of it were up to me, but they are great boats. Express boats come in a bit heavier than your average aluminum bass boat. To some that may be a good thing depending on what you are looking for.
@@PhilosophyDaily well no offense and im not trying to be an asshole, but you didnt say most affordable. You said top 3 in the title. If you we are looking at most affordable Tracker, G3, and Lowe would take the win there
Man I'm with you. I was just looking at a Vexus today. It's owned by the eirs of Forest Wood who owned and started Ranger. However, alumacrap and Lowe are my lowest picks on this list. And I agree totally with Tracker being the best budget boat.
I would much rather have a riveted hull take a better beating then welded and if a rivit does start to leak it is super easy to fix you can actually buy pop rivits designed for fixing riveted boat and easy to do your self but welded will crack and at thay point you are paying someone to fix it for you unless you are good at welding aluminum but still more expensive to repair
William Meyer Lund uses tons of rivets. So it doesn’t matter what they specialize in. I’ll give you Xpress, but both Ranger and Triton specialize in boats and have huge names to hold up too. They wouldn’t be making and selling aluminum boats if the boats weren’t top notch. As far as boats with rivets. I would put G3 boats ahead of Lund. Lund boats are also way overpriced.
William Meyer I never said that Lunds weren’t really nice and sometimes luxurious boats. They are really nice riding boats but they are riveted boats and it’s a known fact that rivets just do not stand the test of time like welds do. Lunds are also grossly overpriced. If you have a Lund, I truly hope for your sake the rivets in it withstand the test of time. But my money would be on a welded boat.
I have a 2004 starcraft starcaster 1754 and everyone that's been in it says about how solid the boat is. One reason I bought it it has livewells in front and rear.
Man, this is about as amateur of a review as you can get. Express and ranger are the only 2 brands on this elementary video that do not use wood. I'm not sure about all the express boats, but Ranger does NOT use wood and has advertised that for years. Do your own research before listening to this kid, he must have got his info from social media or what he heard talking to his highschool buddies. I have owned 3 of these brands and am currently looking to buy my 8th boat. But I work for a living, have my own place and make educated decisions about big purchases. This video is straight up misinformation. Moreover, A friend of mine owns a Lowe dealership and I refuse to buy one of his boats because they have wood all over them.
@@relentlessliving5588 man, I just saw your question. Sorry, it's about 9 months too late. But, to answer your question, I have had really good luck with both. I think the welds feel more solid. But I wouldn't let either deter me from buying a small boat I liked for lakes and rivers.
One more reason. As your boat ages a fiberglass boat gets harder and harder to get rid of. Fiberglass boats have little or no value as they get older and most scrap yards will not take them. Whereas an aluminum boat will always have at least a scrap value.
Some do use wood but they are definitely not crap. I’ve welded a lot of aluminum boats and alumacraft has some of the thickest hulls I’ve seen in it’s class. Like every brand you can get a cheap model but the mv series alumacrafts are great. A lot of people think you can just abuse the boats without issue because they are metal but everything breaks and every brand will break if not properly cared for but materials wise nothing wrong with an alumacraft.
@@richie2dicks468 Any modern day boat made with wood in its construction is a joke (unless it's supposed to be a "wooden" boat ⛵). Any modern day home built with carpet in the bathroom is a joke, too.
@@hulkhuggett only wood in an older alumacraft was the front and rear decks. Cheap and easy to replace and last forever if sealed properly. Once aluminum decks crack and start having problems they end up with me getting cut out and replaced and it’s a lot more expensive then wood. Not to mention wood is a lot quieter if you are fishing shallow flats. Wood has its advantages unless you are a blow hard like yourself and think only one thing is possible.
keith siegel I understand. The only problem is, the lake is still closed down. When I can get out there again, they’ll be awesome new footage! Thanks for watching!🔥
I respect your opinions, but I must disagree on a few points. You talk about welds being stronger than rivets, but what you're looking for in an aluminum boat (especially aluminum) is flex, not strength. Think about it....if welding aluminum is really better, then why are aircraft riveted and not welded? Boats are like planes, they need to flex and rivets allow for that. Also when a welded hull cracks, say goodbye to your summer. Ask JCDropshot (youtuber). His Ranger is welded and he got a crack in his hull back in June. He's still off the water. Riveted boats are easier/faster to fix should anything happen (it rarely does). As far as Alumacraft boats being welded....only their Jon Boats are welded, all their other boats are riveted. Top 3 boats are Lund, Alumacraft, and Starcraft. Crestliner is the best of the welded boats. You did get one thing right though, Yamaha makes the best engine.
@@douglaslounsbury8898 Doug... just no. The only exception is like a small Cessna where their max altitude is 13-15,000 feet where they aren’t required to be pressurized.. 95% of aircraft are pressurized. Meaning they are 100% sealed from the outside elements. These planes are made of metal aluminum sheets which are coated with sealant at all the edges which are then riveted. No air, or water gets in or out. (You hope that’s the case)
Tracker is shit! Vexus, ranger, alumacraft, Lund, all better build quality. If you want an entry boat with corners being cut everywhere, buy a tracker. Xpress is good but no water tight components
@@PhilosophyDaily not about "strong" the point is that aluminum boats flex when under use, when you overflex a tin weld they break...its not an opinion. A rivet poping in nowhere near catastrophic as a weld crack. Again this is 30× years exp in welding and marine repair....whats your experiance?
Man you're totally correct. This kid gets his info from watching sesame street and listening to his social media buds on xbox. Not to be a (total) dick but this misinformation is stupidly annoying.
@@adventurefishing3190 And? Owned by Bass Pro but still Ranger has their own boat designers. Anyone that knows fishing boats knows Ranger builds top of the line in fishing boats.
I’m a lund guy and I love the bass boat they came out.
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Welding is probably better for sealing and staying sealed but wouldn't say it's stronger than rivets. Welding makes seams brittle, especially if not heat treated after. I guess it depends on the number and quality of rivets. You can lap enough materials and install enough rivets to make the seams far stronger than the rest of the panel. With welding, the welds will always be weaker the the rest of the panel. Airplanes are riveted and they're pretty important to keep together. I'm sure welding has other advantages like a smoother hull and corrosion resistance but I don't think strength and durability is necessary one of them.
Ranger hands down is the best boat on this list. No question about it.
Lowe and Lund are made by the same company, but Lowe is supposed to be their budget friendly line. I looked at a 2020 Lowe 175c and liked the layout better than the 2020 Tracker 175, it was also about $1000 cheaper both with 75hp Mercury 4 strokes.
Lray 4x4 Ranger and Tracker are owned by bass pro, but the quality is way different because they aren’t necessarily made by bass pro. It’s the same deal with Lund and Lowe. Thanks for watching!🔥
Uhm Lund and crestliner are sister companies but I never knew Lowe was in the mix but then again that would explain why those are the 3 brands my local dealer carries
Not too many thin gauge welded boats in the Great Lakes. Rivets add a little drag and may need tightening eventually, but welds crack.
I definitely am a fan of welded boats. However, rivets have more give to them. Modern day ships often use a combination of welds and rivets.
Aluminum gives, even if welded. Thanks for watching!🔥
Welds don’t give. They break. Rivots will eventually break but they’re are warning signs. Welds just break no warning.
I dont know it seems like you just threw together a few brands that you like and its all wrong. The top spot would be Vexus AVX. Vexus is new to the game but they came out swinging looking for the knockout and they found it. Have you seen their transoms. Freaking bullet proof and their welds are immaculate. Runner up is Ranger RT series for second. Rangers warranty is easily in the top spot for boats. Tried and true boat brand and they are one the 19 foot RT comes with a padded hull. In last place id say Express boats. Im not personally a fan of them but they do build some nights boats and great layouts. Id nix all the flash of it were up to me, but they are great boats. Express boats come in a bit heavier than your average aluminum bass boat. To some that may be a good thing depending on what you are looking for.
Too expensive. I wanted all the options to be affordable. Thanks for watching!🔥
@@PhilosophyDaily well no offense and im not trying to be an asshole, but you didnt say most affordable. You said top 3 in the title. If you we are looking at most affordable Tracker, G3, and Lowe would take the win there
@@diversify210 Quality and affordability are always the biggest points of interest in my vids. Thank you for the feedback, I do appreciate it!🔥
Man I'm with you. I was just looking at a Vexus today. It's owned by the eirs of Forest Wood who owned and started Ranger. However, alumacrap and Lowe are my lowest picks on this list. And I agree totally with Tracker being the best budget boat.
I say you have good taste in boat brands!
My list.
1 Lowe
2. Alumacraft
3. Vexus
ddm62571 Thanks for watching!🔥
1. Lund/Lowe (Lund makes Lowe)
2. Alumacraft
3. Crestliner
Might be bias because that’s about the only boats up north
@@brockrenshaw7519 Lund doesn't make Lowe. Lowe makes Lowe. Lowe and Lund are owned by the Brunswick corporation which owned several boat brands.
ddm62571 my bad I was told Lund made them
Brock Renshaw Thanks for watching!🔥
I would much rather have a riveted hull take a better beating then welded and if a rivit does start to leak it is super easy to fix you can actually buy pop rivits designed for fixing riveted boat and easy to do your self but welded will crack and at thay point you are paying someone to fix it for you unless you are good at welding aluminum but still more expensive to repair
1. Ranger
2. Triton
3. Xpress
Yes, Triton does make Aluminum boats.
William Meyer Lund uses tons of rivets. So it doesn’t matter what they specialize in. I’ll give you Xpress, but both Ranger and Triton specialize in boats and have huge names to hold up too. They wouldn’t be making and selling aluminum boats if the boats weren’t top notch.
As far as boats with rivets. I would put G3 boats ahead of Lund. Lund boats are also way overpriced.
William Meyer I never said that Lunds weren’t really nice and sometimes luxurious boats. They are really nice riding boats but they are riveted boats and it’s a known fact that rivets just do not stand the test of time like welds do. Lunds are also grossly overpriced. If you have a Lund, I truly hope for your sake the rivets in it withstand the test of time. But my money would be on a welded boat.
Bcroft 68 Thanks for watching everyone!🔥
Should be Ranger/Triton since they are essentially the same.
I also like Triton boats. They are nice
Good video Tom 🔥🔥🔥
Kyle Del Rosario Thanks for watching!🔥
@@PhilosophyDaily no problem
What about SeaArk?
I have a 2004 starcraft starcaster 1754 and everyone that's been in it says about how solid the boat is. One reason I bought it it has livewells in front and rear.
Starcraft/Smokercraft.
I have an 2018 alumacraft deep v and it has rivets it’s not a welded hull
Brock Renshaw New alumacrafts are welded. Thanks for watching!🔥
Sorry to hear that Brock. 🙁
ddm62571 I’ve smashed lunds into rocks and never broke a rivet
@@brockrenshaw7519 Lucky Ducky. 😉Don't know why though you keep smashing expensive boats into rocks.
Do reviews on mountain lake boats! It would be interesting to hear your opinion on higher altitude boating 4000ft and above sea level
Only advice you should take from a Tracker owner is….. Don’t Buy a Tracker Boat
Hey I appreciate your videos. I like the info you put in your videos
Mr. Washe washe I’m glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!🔥
“Welds are definitely more strong” *mercedes amg and sprinter class has entered the chat*
I talk with the dealer to buy the avx 1880 here en spain and yes it’s expensive for the taxes but it’s a realy nice boat
Man, this is about as amateur of a review as you can get. Express and ranger are the only 2 brands on this elementary video that do not use wood. I'm not sure about all the express boats, but Ranger does NOT use wood and has advertised that for years. Do your own research before listening to this kid, he must have got his info from social media or what he heard talking to his highschool buddies. I have owned 3 of these brands and am currently looking to buy my 8th boat. But I work for a living, have my own place and make educated decisions about big purchases. This video is straight up misinformation. Moreover, A friend of mine owns a Lowe dealership and I refuse to buy one of his boats because they have wood all over them.
I’m looking to buy my first one. Does welded or rivets matter?
War eagle has no wood .
@@curtiswest4288 good to know. I will check them out. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a dealership near me.
@@curtiswest4288 I checked out war eagle. They don't have very many models to choose from. 🤷
@@relentlessliving5588 man, I just saw your question. Sorry, it's about 9 months too late. But, to answer your question, I have had really good luck with both. I think the welds feel more solid. But I wouldn't let either deter me from buying a small boat I liked for lakes and rivers.
One more reason. As your boat ages a fiberglass boat gets harder and harder to get rid of. Fiberglass boats have little or no value as they get older and most scrap yards will not take them. Whereas an aluminum boat will always have at least a scrap value.
Alumacraft does use wood in their boats and the quality is rediculously crap. They absolutely cut corners. You are definitely wrong about alumacrap
Some do use wood but they are definitely not crap. I’ve welded a lot of aluminum boats and alumacraft has some of the thickest hulls I’ve seen in it’s class. Like every brand you can get a cheap model but the mv series alumacrafts are great. A lot of people think you can just abuse the boats without issue because they are metal but everything breaks and every brand will break if not properly cared for but materials wise nothing wrong with an alumacraft.
@@richie2dicks468 Any modern day boat made with wood in its construction is a joke (unless it's supposed to be a "wooden" boat ⛵). Any modern day home built with carpet in the bathroom is a joke, too.
@@hulkhuggett only wood in an older alumacraft was the front and rear decks. Cheap and easy to replace and last forever if sealed properly. Once aluminum decks crack and start having problems they end up with me getting cut out and replaced and it’s a lot more expensive then wood. Not to mention wood is a lot quieter if you are fishing shallow flats. Wood has its advantages unless you are a blow hard like yourself and think only one thing is possible.
Rivet are stronger just look the old bridge and Eiffel Tower they would never crack like welded
Alumaweld, Seaark, G3
You need new fishing clips for your videos. It’s like I’m watching the same video every time bro.
keith siegel I understand. The only problem is, the lake is still closed down. When I can get out there again, they’ll be awesome new footage! Thanks for watching!🔥
lol Hows that Freedom america?
@@Francis-yv6hc great. Thanks for watching!🔥
This was very helpful, thanks!
Mercury is the only American made engine...no foreign engines
And Vexus AVX????
Weld craft.
I respect your opinions, but I must disagree on a few points. You talk about welds being stronger than rivets, but what you're looking for in an aluminum boat (especially aluminum) is flex, not strength. Think about it....if welding aluminum is really better, then why are aircraft riveted and not welded? Boats are like planes, they need to flex and rivets allow for that. Also when a welded hull cracks, say goodbye to your summer. Ask JCDropshot (youtuber). His Ranger is welded and he got a crack in his hull back in June. He's still off the water. Riveted boats are easier/faster to fix should anything happen (it rarely does). As far as Alumacraft boats being welded....only their Jon Boats are welded, all their other boats are riveted. Top 3 boats are Lund, Alumacraft, and Starcraft. Crestliner is the best of the welded boats. You did get one thing right though, Yamaha makes the best engine.
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Xpress everything else follows
Airplanes.. are completely riveted together.
Airplanes can have small amounts of air flowing through...will not harm them...but water over time can sink a boat!
@@douglaslounsbury8898 Doug... just no. The only exception is like a small Cessna where their max altitude is 13-15,000 feet where they aren’t required to be pressurized.. 95% of aircraft are pressurized. Meaning they are 100% sealed from the outside elements. These planes are made of metal aluminum sheets which are coated with sealant at all the edges which are then riveted. No air, or water gets in or out. (You hope that’s the case)
Lowe Utility fishing boats are all riveted, not sure where you got your info, and for that matter describing anything without pictures is just lazy.
Tracker is shit! Vexus, ranger, alumacraft, Lund, all better build quality. If you want an entry boat with corners being cut everywhere, buy a tracker. Xpress is good but no water tight components
Better do your homework kid. You have a lot to learn on boats. Your giving advice and you bought the cheapest crap on the market.
Ranger rt is the best aluminum boat
This carpet will stink if blonde of fish gros on it
Facts rivets flex, welds dont..i dont know who told you welded aluminum is strong but you are flat wrong
stillrob 420 Absolutely not, welds are much stronger. Thanks for watching!🔥
@@PhilosophyDaily dude im a welder for 30 years+, involved in marine business 35+...i mean whats your experiance?
@@PhilosophyDaily not about "strong" the point is that aluminum boats flex when under use, when you overflex a tin weld they break...its not an opinion. A rivet poping in nowhere near catastrophic as a weld crack. Again this is 30× years exp in welding and marine repair....whats your experiance?
Man you're totally correct. This kid gets his info from watching sesame street and listening to his social media buds on xbox. Not to be a (total) dick but this misinformation is stupidly annoying.
Adventure Fishing Thank you. I’m buying my first boat and wasn’t sure rivets or welded. This comment made up my mind though
Lol what are you 16? When you got 40years + exp on a boat then you can talk durability.
Ranger has 52 years exp. All welded hulls.
@@ddm62571 ok? And now its owned by jackoff morris...trash
@@adventurefishing3190 And? Owned by Bass Pro but still Ranger has their own boat designers. Anyone that knows fishing boats knows Ranger builds top of the line in fishing boats.
@@ddm62571 rangers are not what they were 20 years ago
stillrob 420 Calm down ladies, y’all are both beautiful! Thanks for watching!🤙
Little daddies boy still trying to figure out how to make videos
Only an idiot would say rivets are stronger than a welded joint