Lionel Vision Line Baldwin Centipede

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
  • My review of Lionel's Vision Line Baldwin Centipede. Retail price is $2,199.00! More stuff at www.ericstrains.com.

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  • @NorfolkWestern484
    @NorfolkWestern484 10 років тому +62

    Guys the reason why Eric talks so much is to inform you. Its better to know more than know less. To me Erics "too much talking" helps!

  • @mariebcfhs9491
    @mariebcfhs9491 4 роки тому +62

    "Centipede"
    quite a frightening name for a locomotive with such a cute face

    • @CCXmas
      @CCXmas 3 роки тому

      its called that cuase its long

    • @CCXmas
      @CCXmas 3 роки тому

      @Tommy Mathew let's make it longer

  • @WholesomeNebula
    @WholesomeNebula 11 років тому +8

    I am relatively new to the hobby. I'm 20 and in college and have been running Lionel since the mid-1990s when I was given a simple 4-4-2 Santa Fe freight set one Christmas. So long as Lionel offers the basic smoking steamers that they have always offered, I don't worry about the crazy prices on these nicer trains. All it took was that 4-4-2 and its short freight with illuminated caboose to get me hooked, and today, I spend an extra couple hundred a month just to have a two bedroom apartment.

  • @kurtarmbruster
    @kurtarmbruster 10 років тому +12

    One magnificent model! The sound and workmanship exquisite--makes me almost want to get into modeling. Well done, Lionel!

  • @justahillbilly7777
    @justahillbilly7777 Рік тому

    These older videos take me back. I remember going with my dad to his place of work one summer and just hanging out in his office binging both The Full Bucketniers and these reviews.
    Ah the olden days.

  • @zjelkof
    @zjelkof 3 роки тому +1

    Alway informative! Thank you for the background and history on this unique locomotive, Eric! I like the fact that your review is not rushed and so thorough.

  • @SteamKing2160
    @SteamKing2160 8 років тому +27

    Lionel just went nuts when making this centipede did they?

  • @goldenretriever6440
    @goldenretriever6440 8 років тому +33

    How come model trains don't have stereo sound????? we have those types of speakers in our phones so what's the big deal???????

    • @tencents49
      @tencents49 4 роки тому +2

      Cause whats the point of stereo sound from a locomotive if its in a 3d environment. Unless you want to fill it with speakers that play each individual sound, then a single speaker will do. It gives off a great effect none the less

  • @Sharkformer
    @Sharkformer 11 років тому +16

    Hey Eric, here's an idea I thought of: Use the 999 engine and it's "ghostly sounds" as a Halloween/spooky thing. The Ghost Train! :D

  • @randytaylor1258
    @randytaylor1258 2 роки тому +2

    What a monster! And yet it is so sophisticated. This vision line is breathtaking.

  • @catlover2368
    @catlover2368 11 років тому +55

    OK I think my Big boy engine just shrunk compared to this beast lol

  • @Ericstrains
    @Ericstrains  11 років тому +9

    Some of their Vision Line features have already worked their way down the line. The smoking whistle is now on some of the starter sets.

  • @LiamLee4449
    @LiamLee4449 11 років тому +2

    Great job Eric! I agree its very nice to see how MTH and Lionel are really moving forward in innovations.

  • @BearCreekWoodworking
    @BearCreekWoodworking 11 років тому +1

    Eric, this is the first time it took me TWO cups of coffee to watch one of your videos...lol. This is a FANTASTIC lengthy video with a ton of good information in it. I like you postive opinion about Lionel being on the cutting edge. I agree, I want them to continue with these new ideas for our hobby.
    I also want to thank you Eric for the massive amount of time it must have takeb you to film and edit this video. I enjoyed kicking back with my coffee and watching this video soooo much... thanks

  • @DynamicDuo795
    @DynamicDuo795 5 місяців тому

    And with that, I can now say that I'm officially a proud owner of the Lionel Vision Line UP Baldwin Centipedes. I found one for sale on Ebay earlier this week and got it for a very attractive price that I couldn't refuse. One of my most desired O gauge locomotives is now officially a part of my collection. Words can't describe how euphoric I'm right now. I will keep this set forever.

  • @bradstrains
    @bradstrains 11 років тому +1

    Great review Eric, the detail on those trucks is incredible, and the sound is great! Awesome fans on top as well! Looks like they hit the nail on the head with this engine. Thanks for sharing, and have a great one!

  • @TheRealEasyA
    @TheRealEasyA 8 років тому +14

    Imagine a Vision Line rendition of the DDA40X or the UP 3rd Gen Gas Turbine.

    • @abysmaldryer
      @abysmaldryer 4 роки тому +2

      That’s a wonderful idea. Maybe they could have some of the doors on the side open up so you could see the two prime movers inside. The engine is so big that they could fit all of the electronics in it.

    • @TheMeatDealer0
      @TheMeatDealer0 3 роки тому +1

      There is a o scale train for the turbine

  • @nighthawk_s5504
    @nighthawk_s5504 11 років тому +4

    Beautiful wouldnt have been my first choice of words

  • @MrNemesis63
    @MrNemesis63 11 років тому +2

    Once again, thanks for another great review. It was because of you that I have the Vision Line CP Hybrid. I liked what you said about making innovations . It's like buying a car during it's first model year. Once your work out the kinks, you usually end up with a pretty good product. At least Lionel is trying to stay on the cutting edge. As for having both metal and plastic body engines, my other GEVO is the MTH one. I happen to like them both.

  • @JolietZett
    @JolietZett 11 років тому +1

    Amazing review. Thanks again for all the time you put into this. You have really done so much to help our hobby grow. The sound seems amazing even via video. After watching your review I am wondering if it is prototypical for every engine to have 2 builders plates. I would imagine that it is if Lionel adds 2 to every engine.
    Thanks again Eric, really enjoyed kicking back for an hour and watching your review!

  • @DavidLevine
    @DavidLevine Рік тому +1

    Watching this in Sept 2023. Great review as always and well done on showcasing the dual engine sound collaboration. What would this item retail for if it was just released today with 2023 pricing!

  • @SignalLightProductions
    @SignalLightProductions 11 років тому +1

    Great video Eric! I liked the look at the Colorado Room. That thing is massive! It looks so weird going through curves. BTW, I just bought that Morton Salt Hopper the other day so it's funny to see it in your video now.

  • @TriGogglin
    @TriGogglin 3 роки тому

    Great looking locos only seen pics of a centipede. Your narration was great and very knowledgeable.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 3 роки тому +1

    I think the engine exhaust is the best feature I have seen on any model loco, that includes sound to. You're never going to replicate steam engine smoke but I can see real progress with diesel engines and possibly gas turbines.

  • @ZR1KingOfTheHillZR1
    @ZR1KingOfTheHillZR1 11 років тому +1

    Excellent review Eric.I run N-Gauge myself,but I really enjoy your well thought-out product reviews and appreciate how you present the products.Regarding your time and effort you put into these presentations,I think it would be a nice gesture on the manufacturers part if some their marketing people would step up to the plate and offer you their new prototypes and other product releases to review for us at a substancial discount or even free due to the fact that it is a good promotion.Thanks Bud.

  • @andrewborges7768
    @andrewborges7768 7 років тому +51

    I'm sorry but $2,200 for this thing? Wow, this train better deliver me sandwiches on demand for that price.

    • @Oakhart76
      @Oakhart76 6 років тому +5

      And regular conjugal visits.

    • @iron1349
      @iron1349 6 років тому +3

      or at least be indestructible

    • @iron1349
      @iron1349 6 років тому +6

      But i'd rather build an entire layout for that money.

    • @kylecomadoll2697
      @kylecomadoll2697 6 років тому +3

      I did that with my train never got all the crumbs out of the cars

    • @ALL-bj7mj
      @ALL-bj7mj 5 років тому +4

      then maybe its time for a new hobby...…….

  • @byates59
    @byates59 11 років тому +1

    AWESOME review Eric!!!!! I love the Centipede and think it was worth every penny. I agree with you that the sound system is the best feature and believe that it is without a doubt the best sound system ever put into a model engine. I also agree with you that innovation with some operating issues is far better than no innovations at all. Hopefully Lionel will continue with the Vision Line and advanced features!!! Anyways, thanks again for all your hard work bro and have a great one!

  • @GrometNJ
    @GrometNJ 11 років тому +1

    Eric. Awesome review. Amazing engine. Keep up the outstanding work. I noticed two GE Evo's on the layout. Hoping for a Lionel Vision vs. MTH Premier comparison in the near future???

  • @franciscorosa6221
    @franciscorosa6221 3 роки тому +1

    I have a centipede and I absolutely love it

  • @raymondappenzeller1945
    @raymondappenzeller1945 11 років тому +1

    I like your videos, very detailed and informative about each locomotive. Is there another video depicting how the centipede negotiates curves? Very interesting! Thank you!

  • @Bulldogdad1000
    @Bulldogdad1000 11 років тому

    Thanks Eric. What a great review. I always look forward to viewing you next train blog.

  • @TomTom-bc8kf
    @TomTom-bc8kf 10 років тому +11

    26:03 you spit on the train

  • @railramsay9025
    @railramsay9025 5 років тому +1

    Eric, when you said "Postwar engines have maybe a pound or so of pulling power" I started putting weights on the frame of a tender for my postwar 2056...it can pull 15 pounds

    • @DarrellJMartin
      @DarrellJMartin 3 роки тому

      The pulling force is measured laterally, not by how many pounds are being pulled. That same 15 pd weight would require much more pulling force if it wasn't on wheels, and that could be measured by attaching a pull force measuring device (like a fish weighing scale?) to the weights and seeing how much force is needed to pull them (I'm spit-balling about the fish scale, so maybe someone has a better method).

    • @railramsay9025
      @railramsay9025 3 роки тому

      @@DarrellJMartin that was a misunderstanding that my dumb younger self got, in general I wasn't interpreting the words right, you are right I'm not telling you that you aren't it's just that in a more clear manner, it's tractive effort not how much it can pull, made that connection like 5 months ago

  • @danielboone3770
    @danielboone3770 3 роки тому

    Boy I love the Centipede locomotive! It is a beauty!

  • @zachwheeler9846
    @zachwheeler9846 Рік тому

    That is a lot of engine almost 4 feet, the camera definitely doesn't do the size justice, surprised you were able to get the whole thing in frame. It would certainly be magnificent to see this thing in person going down the rails. The moving fans and faint horn sounds are great minor but significant details that add to the realism. I find the Centipede to be very odd and very cool by its size and it not being a very successful engine in real life. I wish Lionel would do more of these weird/obscure engines that are more forlorn and not very mainstream as Vision Line models and bring more attention to them. It's also been awhile since they've made a Vision Line diesel, I would love it if they made a Vision F3 or something like that. Great video Eric!

  • @williamfriggle
    @williamfriggle 11 років тому +3

    Eric. You hands down do the best reviews on UA-cam. Lionel is sure making some amazing products these days. I just wish I could afford one. Any one. LOL

  • @henryszubielski8601
    @henryszubielski8601 2 роки тому

    Very nice set! This looks so good it's a shame the UP cancelled order. I can imagine photos of this locomotive on Sherman Hill.
    Thanks for sharing your video.

  • @thenekom
    @thenekom 8 років тому +23

    Really cool, but $2199? Christ I've bought cars for less than that. Recently! Working ones. Wow. Really slick though for sure.

    • @goldenretriever6440
      @goldenretriever6440 7 років тому

      thenekom
      I kinda want to make my own model train engine partially to see how much I can actually make it

    • @finndahuman57
      @finndahuman57 7 років тому

      thenekom that's how you know this guy makes a decent amount of money 💰

    • @switchpointproductions7927
      @switchpointproductions7927 6 років тому +1

      Well you have to take into account that these locomotives have extremely unique and detailed features, so therefore the models will cost more.

    • @2475grant
      @2475grant 6 років тому

      thenekom The one next to the no

  • @MarkJRedmond
    @MarkJRedmond 11 років тому

    Great review. You talked about the sound being good? No,it's GREAT!!!! The prime mover sounds were recorded using one of the only DRS-6-6-1500 locomotives, Magma #10, still running. It's located at the Arizona Railway Museum Chandler AZ. I have been next to this locomotive when running and as I listen I close my eyes and could almost feel the vibrations. I am into HO but love the detail Lionel put in. Wish our locomotives could have running fans.

  • @DynamicDuo795
    @DynamicDuo795 6 місяців тому

    I just picked up an MTH Premier version from the MTH 2004 volume 1 edition. It's gorgeous. However, I'd still like to get this Lionel version, too. It's simply stunning.

  • @LesPaulGuitars1
    @LesPaulGuitars1 11 років тому

    Eric thank u for all ur great video's a great looking train and layout u have there
    keep making video's
    thank u again

  • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
    @TheOneTrueDragonKing 7 років тому +5

    If I'm not mistaken, the ghostly UP 999 would be great as a lead engine for a ghost train scene in a movie!

    • @thatredfokker
      @thatredfokker 6 років тому

      Kerry Freeman That would be pretty cool. And it's even better because if you flip 999 upside down, what do you get? Perfect ghost locomotive.

    • @nicholassammons3881
      @nicholassammons3881 5 років тому

      @@thatredfokker no it won't
      It would look stupid.

    • @thatredfokker
      @thatredfokker 5 років тому

      To the average outsider, yes.

    • @FranzFerdinandVIII
      @FranzFerdinandVIII 5 років тому

      Do you mean flipping the numbers? Then that would be a perfect ghost loco

    • @dtrail3276
      @dtrail3276 4 роки тому

      @@thatredfokker Flip the numbers over? Is that what you meant?

  • @charlesgardiner6023
    @charlesgardiner6023 5 років тому

    Eric great video's Ive seen a lot of the others but yours are the best.

  • @AloneIStand454
    @AloneIStand454 11 років тому

    Wooooo! Eric's back with reviews!

  • @ap70621
    @ap70621 11 років тому

    Very good video Eric. Well worth the wait. Awesome engine.

  • @BobbyHarveyVideoProductions
    @BobbyHarveyVideoProductions 11 років тому

    Very good review Eric. If I had all the money in the world (and O72 curves, lol) I'd buy one of these for sure, they look awesome!

  • @SwindellSteamWorks
    @SwindellSteamWorks 11 років тому

    Mr. Siegel, in the video when you explained how UP never received and how they were scrapped. Units #998 and #999 were the two demonstrator units.

  • @MrBnsftrain
    @MrBnsftrain 7 років тому +1

    Were all the centipedes built before the process of turbochraging the motors?
    This is a really nice model! It would look nice in any layout set from 1947-today!

  • @TheFirefightingRailfan
    @TheFirefightingRailfan 11 років тому +2

    Great engine! When you first started the hobby, and you hooked the legacy base to mth tiu, did you ever have a problem when your legacy engine was on the same track as an mth engine, your mth engine or engines would have problems, like reseting its self or not even turning on?

  • @Bullhead_JW
    @Bullhead_JW 11 років тому

    The Colorado room has made great progress!

  • @bbrockRailFan
    @bbrockRailFan 8 років тому

    Wow that locomotive is sweet! I saw something similar on my favorite road: PRR.

  • @bradstrains
    @bradstrains 11 років тому

    At "The Train Loft" I saw a single Centipede with the cab window inserts imploded as you had described. At the time I was wondering what had happened to it, but now I know.

  • @boatx22
    @boatx22 11 років тому

    great review i have Ben anticipating this since you first mentioned it

  • @oxolotleman7226
    @oxolotleman7226 5 років тому

    I think the centipedes are one rare occasion where I'd rather have a pilot version than a painted version. The pilot models look very nice and since these were so obscure irl I feel like it would look equally out of place either way. Also, since they aren't in any of my favorite schemes, I would want a Milwaukee road one if they made one and I could find the money.

  • @CameraManJohnny
    @CameraManJohnny 11 років тому

    Love your Lionel Reviews!!

  • @SRJason747
    @SRJason747 11 років тому

    Nice improvement in the Colorado Room with the canyon!!

  • @Oskar-js6iv
    @Oskar-js6iv 7 років тому +5

    I cant find the web shop where you can buy the Lionel engines you review!

    • @Oskar-js6iv
      @Oskar-js6iv 7 років тому

      +D I S C O V E R Y Oh HELLO There

  • @adamswindell1442
    @adamswindell1442 11 років тому

    The two units #998 and #999 were originally the two demonstrators and would go to the Union Pacific after demonstrating. But, like you said UP cancelled the order and Baldwin ended up scrapping them.

  • @shafiqshabazz2462
    @shafiqshabazz2462 2 роки тому

    Great review Eric

  • @baldypalmsrailroad
    @baldypalmsrailroad 11 років тому

    Nice demo of this engine. Thank you.

  • @nick044
    @nick044 7 років тому

    I would give the fans in the train a FANtastic rating.

  • @vhd72
    @vhd72 11 років тому +1

    Love your reviews just wish these things were more affordable

  • @douggoud
    @douggoud 11 років тому

    Yes, Broadway Limited is the only one (to my knowledge) that makes them, not sure if you can get one from their site still, but there are a couple on ebay, but I don't think there are any of them in a UP scheme.

  • @exrightwing
    @exrightwing 11 років тому

    Hi Eric, I am new to the hobby and appreciate your reviews.

  • @RoseSupreme
    @RoseSupreme 11 років тому +1

    What type of horn does this locomotive use? I like the sound of it.

  • @ivoryjohnson4662
    @ivoryjohnson4662 4 роки тому

    Lionel keep making good stuff

  • @rayford21
    @rayford21 4 роки тому

    A beautiful locomotive, but I was never aware of or heard of a Union Pacific Baldwin Centipede.

    • @sharkymcsharknose2979
      @sharkymcsharknose2979 3 роки тому

      Union Pacific ordered a pair of Centipedes from Baldwin but canceled the order before taking delivery. Baldwin kept them as a demonstrator set. Lionel (and BLI in HO and N scales) produced their Centipedes in this "what if?" UP livery, but unlike a lot of fantasy liveries this one has a realistic basis.

  • @DynamicDuo795
    @DynamicDuo795 5 місяців тому

    Did you happen to have a slight issue with your engines when you first got them? When I went to go pick them up from the train shop, I tested them on the test track and got lights, sounds, and smoke, but it wouldn't move forward or reverse. When I got home, I tested them on my own personal test track, and everything worked as it should. A friend of mine in my club bought the Pennsy version new and he had an issue with them. He sent it back to the train shop, which then sent them off to Lionel, who corrected the issue. Apparently, Lionel knew there was a slight problem with these engines but never issued a recall apparently because they did not want to deal with backlash and everyone sending in their engines to Lionel for repair. I'm just curious to find out if yours had the same problem right out of the box.

    • @Ericstrains
      @Ericstrains  5 місяців тому

      I never had any issues with mine and never heard of any widespread issue with them.

  • @726berkshire
    @726berkshire 11 років тому

    I agree. What's the point of giving negative opinions constantly?

  • @TobyPasman
    @TobyPasman 10 років тому

    Lionel is making a Vision Line rendition of the Union Pacific Big Boy.

  • @PennRailVideos
    @PennRailVideos 11 років тому

    Awesome video! Very well done.

  • @Porschedude8
    @Porschedude8 11 років тому

    This is one locomotive I am surprised they produced! The "centipede" would be one of the most difficult to make and ultimately sought after.....

  • @b3j8
    @b3j8 6 років тому

    Subjective comment but I'd have gone for the Pennsy 5 stripe version. But what a beast these things were! Maintenance nightmare from all accounts.

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 10 років тому

    A few nits: Centipedes had two 8-cylinder motors in them, not one--I heard only one start up. UP didn't introduce silver trucks until ~1956--long after Centipede (and Baldwin) production ceased--they would have been Harbor Mist Gray like other UP locos of the era. The rear of the unit should be yellow to match the sides; all-gray rear ends came along around the same time as the silver trucks. Still, a great fantasy set--if only Baldwin's lengthy delay in delivering them caused UP to cancel their order.

  • @SGTDUPREY
    @SGTDUPREY 11 років тому

    I model N too, but I'm subbed to N, HO, O, and a couple other scales. no point in just staying stuck in your own scale.

  • @jimsmoter4510
    @jimsmoter4510 6 років тому

    I model in HO but these locos were/are very cool and sound great

  • @3dartistguy
    @3dartistguy 4 роки тому

    Would love to see a video of your whole layout

    • @rossbryan6102
      @rossbryan6102 3 роки тому

      I IMAGINE THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF THE PROTOTYPE IS A LACK OF FUEL TANK CAPACITY!!
      WITH ALL WHEELS BELOW AND TWO ENGINES AND AUXILIARIES UPSTAIRS,LEFT LITTLE ROOM FOR FUEL TANKS!!
      STILL IT IS TOO BAD NONE WERE SAVED IN PRESERVATION!!
      KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
      👍👍

  • @SGTDUPREY
    @SGTDUPREY 11 років тому

    Interesting, I agree I'm always looking for oddball locos like BNSF #9647 which I received the other day.

  • @abyssalreclass
    @abyssalreclass 8 років тому +3

    Fuck, a four foot locomotive? My entire layout is four feet wide. I live in an apartment, so I'm pretty much stuck with N scale.

  • @ScarySnowflakes
    @ScarySnowflakes 11 років тому

    That train is crazy awesome

  • @BCEgdl
    @BCEgdl 8 років тому

    Really, the sound was excellent.

  • @Ericstrains
    @Ericstrains  11 років тому +1

    Are you talking about 1/2 centipede that's just the single unit?

  • @efitter7
    @efitter7 11 років тому

    Great review Eric!

  • @jbrunsonjr
    @jbrunsonjr 11 років тому

    Awesome job, Eric!

  • @caverjam
    @caverjam 5 років тому

    I do not really care for diesel but these two look at more of these two diesel engines are really fantastic well the fans and everything well Lionel has really done with this if good favor by giving us such fantastic products

  • @sarrav78
    @sarrav78 6 років тому +2

    The Horn almost sounds like Southern Pacific GS-6 (Unpainted Pilot) GS-2 (Daylight)

  • @AtkataffTheAlpha
    @AtkataffTheAlpha 3 місяці тому

    Despite the failure, I bet if all the flaws were fixed, these locomotives would actually work and be fast freights and express passenger engines.
    Unfortunately, Baldwin ruined their chances

  • @105C09
    @105C09 6 років тому

    PS: The diesel sound is wrong. It's the sound of an Alco 244 prime mover and not the low rpm Baldwin 608SC.

  • @nikerailfanningttm9046
    @nikerailfanningttm9046 Рік тому

    I picked up the Baldwin demonstrators last year and they rarely are run, as they look awkward while pulling 100 Scale Diecast Ore Cars.

  • @adamswindell1442
    @adamswindell1442 11 років тому

    I heard that a former lionel employee joined Broadway Limited and helped put their Centipede into production.

  • @ALCO-C855-fan
    @ALCO-C855-fan 4 місяці тому +1

    Woud you allow me to use a bit of footage fro this video? (Don't worry. My channel is anti-profit. Only for entertainment and music videos.)

    • @Ericstrains
      @Ericstrains  4 місяці тому +1

      yeah, just as long as you credit me for the video you use. Send me a link to the video when it's done!

    • @ALCO-C855-fan
      @ALCO-C855-fan 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Ericstrains Thank you so much!^^
      Can I use the YT short too in the same video? ~Lexie

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 6 років тому

    Cooling fans were have been electrically driven (not directly connected to either motor) and thermostatically controlled based on coolant temp, not engine speed. If the engine was just starting and the motors cold, they wouldn't be rotating at all.

  • @Mr72challenger
    @Mr72challenger 11 років тому

    Like the different track view

  • @schaefenegger
    @schaefenegger 11 років тому

    Nice Job Eric!! Hey was wondering... I just bought the same model and have to send mine back to Lionel as the glass in both cabs was broken!! Seems its due to the method of packing. Appears engine could move in the styrofoam and the styrofoam corner above the cab glass poked and broke it out. Wondering if you saw any issues? Cheers Don

  • @Scep42
    @Scep42 11 років тому

    these look amazing,
    Will you possibly get another one, maybe in PRR?

  • @jarednhill
    @jarednhill 11 років тому

    I think he's talking about that, Eric

  • @SolidCold
    @SolidCold 8 років тому

    it looks really strong too.

  • @ELDASY56
    @ELDASY56 3 роки тому

    I like the crew talks

  • @charlesgardiner6023
    @charlesgardiner6023 5 років тому

    love the Centipede

  • @frederickhurst8813
    @frederickhurst8813 5 років тому

    the description made me wish we had money