Imagine how the post office worker who was pregnant and had her child in prison cried. And imagine how much her children cried when their mother was taken and their father understandably broke down and became alcohol dependent as they experienced hostility from their community; the loss of their family, reputation and livelihood. No sympathy for Miss Vennels.
@@andyMSH700 If they were in a position to know or should have asked or should have disclosed evidence I agree 1000%. However, if it was a solicitor who was told the system was secure and had a witness for Fujitsu who said the system was secure and had an investigator say the postmaster confessed (where in reality they were bullied into it) I don't know how much blame I can put on them. If they've got no other knowledge of horizon, what could they have done to find out the truth. As for the solicitors who knew horizon had bugs and concealed it while insisting it was for the benefit of the defence, those people have a special place in hell waiting for them.
People are so immoral nowaday not allowing this womand to keep her millions and cbe.all those people sent to jail and the unborn child sent to jail should just leave her alone
That’s one of the few good things about social media , we can see immediately and compare the phrases used , the tactics taught to avoid accountability and responsibility . We see the same phrases used again and again in cynical manipulation to avoid the truth and make it harder for others to find it . We’re beginning to see how these games are played by her kind who support each other in their criminality
what comes accross is............... yep because she loved Post Office more, than some innocent nobody refused to address issues because doing so would impact the post office everything she did was to protect the post office and herself, if that ment throwing innocent post masters under the bus so be it
Of course she loved the PO, where else could you get paid millions to do a job where you not accountable for any decisions, don't have to remember anything and any problems are someone elses fault.
She's absolutely not stupid. If hundreds of thousands of sub postmasters were flagging issues with the horizon systems, she chose to ignore them. And she deserves to be in jail. People committed suicide because of her negligence. Shame on her!
Nothing will happen to them because they are all in a massive club (you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours) and the likes of us ain't in it and never will be.
@@KrisPBacon-ts6vp Psychopaths, I think you mean? And yes, absolutely. She exhibits typical psychopathic behaviour. Have a look at (around) 5.25, when someone in the audience interjects (with a comment I couldn't make out). For the briefest of moments, she looks like she forgets where she is and she's about to round on and chew out the person who interjects, then remembers where she is and calculates (wrongly, as it turns out) that a better strategy is to turn on the waterworks.Which psychopaths can do at the drop of a hat. And I know whereof I speak!!
"I failed in my duty as a leader, as a director, as a business executive and most of all I failed as a human. Innocent people's lives were destroyed, figuratively and literally. I accept full responsibility for the failings on my watch, and the consequences of those failings." are the words we need to hear and never will. The shameless blaming of everyone but herself is the most raw display of cowardice I have ever seen. How people with a complete void of character and substance ever make it into these positions of responsibility is the problem. At best, she simply didn't understand what was required of her job. At worst, she knew what was happening and lacked the substance to intervene.
She loved the Post Office. What she really means is she loved the big fat paycheque and the bonuses. What she didn't like was responsibility and accountability.
@@ianflynn2353hat would be the right thing to happen but it won't the establishment look after their own.she will escape scot free .no chance of prosecutions
She should lose her pension, her salary, and should have to pay back all the money postmasters and mistresses lost or were forced to pay back. The tears are phony and done to try to gain empathy.
She should be put in jail and put away for a very long time, instead just like all High level employees she will run to the hills with zero responsibility and live a life of luxury. The UK is a sick place to live.
She sought power, authority, status and had no moral compass. Becoming a priest is a good choice for someone like that, it adds to the tapestry of lies
It's embarrassing to watch her well rehearsed performance of blaming everyone other than herself, but as CEO, the buck stopped with her. She should own up and take whatever's coming to her.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx when I was teaching, some kids used to sometimes turn up at school with sweets they had actually stolen from a shop on the way to school. I asked the cohort if they thought stealing was wrong. The response was ‘only if you get caught’. They could not understand that stealing was wrong per se. And so it is with Vennells. Had she not been caught then she would still have her CBE and by now, Saint Paula would be the Bishop of London. In my opinion, her apparent distress is not caused by the wrong she has caused others, it’s because she has been caught and she has lost what could have been.
@@Turtle_Zed That mentality has a very long history. I suspect that Eve was distressed only because God had caught her taking the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I bet there are numerous people who have got PhD’s on what they ‘suspect’ to be the case. I’m thinking of the laughable Doctor of Divinity qualification and ‘how many angels can dance on the head of a pin’. You see, I’m a left brainer, I deal with logic and numbers. I struggle to use any part of my right brain so I have no creativity nor appreciation of the arts, languages, music etc. I wish I did but I don’t. Some people may consider me autistic but I just feel normal. On the plus side, I work in both education and the construction industry which places me at the very base of the Maslow hierarchy of needs. Unlike ‘arty’ people, I have never been out of work because what I have to offer is always in demand. Returning to your reply, I know of the bible but I think it’s a work of fiction and I need more than suspicions before I believe something. That having been said, I’ll go along with statistical inference but it has to be three times normal confidence limits for me personally. Have a good weekend
Nothing will happen to any of the leaders despite the overwhelming evidence that they were wrong. It’s a disgrace and we all know she is lying because it’s been verified by evidence yet she still denies it. Fucking lying bitch. Corporate bs.
Vennells had a responsibility to the postmasters and she, and her cohorts, utterly failed in that responsibility. Shame on them all. A national disgrace for Britain.
@@DeeLee-p8c How is that Nazi interrigation there helping The Post Office. By my reckoning she was the only one left there against privatisation and being the last one left sticking her neck out! Fucking poor show there mate (people trying to make names for themselves at the expence of others), and a real coup for some! I hate that sort of thing! If anything its the interrogators that want locking up!
But she's entitled to a trial and a decision on guilty or not guilty. This isn't Russia or China where people get hauled into prison never to be seen again.
So in short she is saying she was totally incompetent. How dare she not hand back her exorbitant pension. If she was truly repentant she would do this immediately. Anglian priest? The irony. Will she be on her knees today asking forgiveness?
She's an obvious liar. She is fooling no one. There were 12,000 to 15,000 reports by postmasters to the post office help desk that the Horizon system was not working properly. The Help Desk was instructed to lie to the postmasters and tell them that no one else was reporting such problems. Obviously, someone high up in post office management told the help desk employees to lie. Who was that? Obviously, it was the post office legal department.
What I found working within large organisations, is a kind of conspiracy of silence around their mutual incompetence, at high levels. Their instinct is to cover each other's arses; such that you don't see more of their monkey arses as they climb the tree. I must add, that this isn't about DEI (it's much older), they all do the same dance, regardless of background, once they are 'in'. Integrity is seen as foolish by them.
people use them for tools like this chief of police caught out after 32 years and no one detected any thing that a servicemen would pick up on im minutes in the police force.
The Obligatory "Cry like a LIttle School Girl" coupled with an "Insincere Apology" and she believes everything is now okay ..Strip them of their assets to help pay for the Millions of pounds us tax payers are going to have to pay out in compensation
She failed to do her job and allowed the death and imprisonment of innocent people. She obviously was unfit to do the job and yet made millions of dollars at the expense of so many people lives. She obviously wasn't the only one working for the PO.that are guilty of this tragic travesty of justice.
Vennells said "I wasn't an IT expert..." You don't need to be an IT expert to realise that when there are thousands of occurrences of accounts not reconciling there are problems with the system!!!!
She was paid a lot of money to be accountable in such circumstances. She now has to be held accountable and face consequences. Our institutions are broken if nobody is held accountable.
She didn't get "the balance between the institution and the individual right". 900 sub-postmasters prosecuted. 278 jailed. 4 suicides. CEO walks away with £2.2 million. That's some imbalance.
Best comment I've read so far. This is business as usual for our elites. UK, Australia, France, Canada, USA - you name it. The people at the top can destroy the the plebs wile they stripmine wealth all they want - it's been going on for generations. The difference is, in the era of recording devices, social media and mass communications, the little people can get informed real quick, see what is going on and ORGANIZE. The miniseries that has ignited public outrage and anger about this particular scandal is a good example of that. The Post Office Scandal is one of literally dozens and dozens of similar heartless, selfish crimes perpetrated by the managerial class with absolute impunity. Their rapacity and greed know no limit and will never stop - until it is stopped. Working people in the West (for the first time in history) can see what is going on without the distorted lens of corporate media controlling the story, and with the ability the organize and take action directly, without needing unions or corruptible "bosses" to organize for them. Look at the Truckers in Canada and the wonderful Farmers across Europe. Our lords and masters don't know HOW to deal with that, so the overreact and fumble. If the elites trashing our fellow citizens and institutions for personal gain and power had any sense at all, they'd realize just how exposed they are. Tsars and Kings with absolute power have been overthrown by peasants - don't forget that. A bunch of dithering, selfish bureaucrats and management types will crumble overnight when faced with serious for real opposition.
Sadly not an isolated case, there are so many MDs that are not worthy of high positions. Water companies, John Lewis, leaders at care homes and many more
Statistically while applying common sense that Vennells doesn't possess, it's highly unlikely that as many as 900 postmasters where crooks. She was never challenged on this issue.
This woman had plenty of time from when it all kicked off to investigate it, and she didn't! How can someone just watch innocent people go to jail and do absolutely NOTHING to prevent that! Horrendous!
This witch will throw anyone under the bus. Being a colleague of hers is a dangerous place to be. Any time she's facing culpability the first word out of her mouth is someone else's name. Off to jail Paula
You are correct. She is the 1st person to break ranks and start playing the blame game. The others only didn't remember but never blamed anyone, in fact I felt they rallied behind her. She must be one nasty bit of work.
I remember when I started in my job forty years ago. On advice of a mentor, I quickly established myself in a side role, which took me into the training side of the company rather than management. That meant attending a lot of management meetings over the last 30 years and that means getting to see managers in a true light. They will openly lie to protect themselves from taking the blame for anything that doesn't go right or to claim the credit for anything that does. Duplicity and doing whatever it takes at the expense of whomever it takes is the order of the day. An honest and genuine manager is like an honest politician. Their honesty will only be used against them as a weapon by other managers to undermine them. I tell all my trainees that if a manager ever asks them to do something that is against process or off the books, they should always get it in writing first. It's amazing how many times managers tell staff to do things and if the staff member asks for it in an email to confirm it, the manager goes and asks someone else to do it instead. Then, if there's any blowback, they completely thrown that person under the bus and claim they misunderstood what they were instructed to do. In short, I wouldn't trust a manager as far as they could spit.
One or two dodgy post offices in the country fair enough. But how many got accused? . Surely they must have thought something was wrong . But to let it go on like it did. Is unforgiving
Over 10-15 years 10,000 offices maybe 10 submasters in the network may have been dodgy that's 0.1% very low in any company. 1000 that's 10% of the network she must of knew something was going wrong.
it beggars belief that no one on the board didn’t realise something was amiss when they suddenly had 100s of hard working postmasters suddenly appearing to be stealing. group think doesn’t cut it, they just didn’t give a sxxt.
Being treated like scum of the earth by the people who the postmaster served.Being shunned by your by friends and not trusted by family. To having there poor kids even bullied at school. And innocent people put in prison and finally. To Martain griffiths who took his life. No-one could imagine what he was feeling. My heart goes out to you all. But this woman needs to understand crying will not help her.
It's unforgivable how the British government and senior directors and the CEO of the Post Office close ranks but thank God justice will prevail - Send them to jail as they did with so many innocent people shame on you all.
I get very annoyed when people in very high profile positions fall from grace and then try to get people on their side, she was paid very very well and received bonuses only most of us can only dream of winning never mind earning, but now she is sorry for everything…….. she ain’t fooling anyone.
Great isnt it.... i go 10mph over the speed limit get fined. These people get millions. Screw up then get to keep the money and then walk free after destroying other peoples lives and then it'll be the public that pays the compensation !! Its insane !!
“I loved the Post Office”. Well, yeah, if you are raking in a massive salary from it, and also taking no real responsibilities or stresses on for that massive salary, you would love it. She clearly didn’t give a shit about the welfare of employees, or try to investigate what was happening in the organisation.
She was never qualified for the job. She never understood enough about the complexity of the job, or the technicalities of the job. She never got a grip of her subordinates, and they in turn ended up capturing her. The most basic, instinctive mindset of bureaucrats is that once something starts to go wrong, you just hunker down harder and hope it will all go away. And certainly the PO was an ossified relic, overstaffed by exactly the wrong type of people. When change and new thinking was required, it was both missing, and resisted. The job of a CEO coming into an organisation undergoing a radical reform program is to drive that change hard. Vennells wanted to be liked, and lead a happy team - whereas the actual requirement was for a bastard who remove people from their comfort zones, and their jobs if necessary. Vennells patently wasn't capable of evaluating her senior staff critically, or have the spine and mongrel to deal to them effectively. At which point, serious inquiry must be given to who appointed Vennells, and why - because that was a serious primary failure right there. Who thought Vennells was the right person for this job ??? Will 'they' ever get the spotlight shone on them ? The fish rots from the head.
I loved the Post Office, they gave me an overinflated salary and massive bonuses, I am really sorry that I had to hand back my CBE and that I was caught lying
The woman is either grossly incompetent or a total liar. She’s head of a huge company but appears to know nothing about her own company. Disgrace, this is criminal and she should be punished.
A vile individual who even now refuses to accept any responsibility for what happened. If she thinks those tears are going to save her, she’d better think again.
I worked as a consultant in IT at the PO many, many years ago - well before Horizon came along, I’ll add. But the managers and team leaders I worked for were like bulldogs in ensuring their systems were suppirted and maintained to a very high standard. I had total respect for them. What on earth went wrong?
Did you know Norman McKay? My uncle who worked for the PO in the 50s 60s and 70s and 80s. I believe he was fairly high up there. He is passed now but wouldn't have allowed this to happen as he had such integrity.
I’m so sick of people saying I’m not an IT person….you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that the discrepancies clearly meant something wasn’t right. Accept it , you messed up and stop crying .
Anyone in their right mind would question the number of post office managers stealing money. Did anyone in the post office check how many post office managers stole money in the previous 20 years. I am sure it was very low if any. I think jail for the most prominent ones involved is nessesary and just
The key thing is that they distrusted SPMs; the fact that Horizon revealed discrepancies confirmed them in their belief that SPMs always had their fingers in the till. They trusted Horizon because it told them what they wanted to hear.
She played at being a CEO did nothing and according to her she knew nothing which turned out to be all lies in other words all she did was collect her salary. Then weeps when caught out. A typical CEO in Britian.
She is a typical example of way to many CEO'S and GMs that simply do NOT care for their work force, their ONLY priority are targets and profit, I work for a company that has a self made CEO that cares for its staff, but it took me a life time to find it, and now that I have I feel confident in saying, I will stay till I retire, our country used to be GREAT Britain, but people like this have made this country a total sham. Finally to quote the woke generation, "I'm not angry, I am very disappointed" (even though it's hard not to get angry, as it's a waste of energy)
Shes not crying for the innocent victims. Shes crying because she's been exposed
She wasn't crying. Her acting is about as good as Amber Heard
@@shaz2761Fujitsu will get of Scot free, not only that but they have been awarded the contract for the UK's digital ID.
Exactly
How dare you criticise me! I’m perfect! It’s not my fault that everybody let me down!
@@GradKatabsolutely
Imagine how the post office worker who was pregnant and had her child in prison cried. And imagine how much her children cried when their mother was taken and their father understandably broke down and became alcohol dependent as they experienced hostility from their community; the loss of their family, reputation and livelihood. No sympathy for Miss Vennels.
That's the true reality of this and all created by this snivelling poltroon of a woman
I don't know anyone who has any sympathy for her. I'm sure they exist but I struggle to imagine what kind of people they are.
baristers and solicitors do what she did except they do it on a daily basis......they all need prison for slaming people into prison when innocent..
@@andyMSH700 If they were in a position to know or should have asked or should have disclosed evidence I agree 1000%. However, if it was a solicitor who was told the system was secure and had a witness for Fujitsu who said the system was secure and had an investigator say the postmaster confessed (where in reality they were bullied into it) I don't know how much blame I can put on them. If they've got no other knowledge of horizon, what could they have done to find out the truth. As for the solicitors who knew horizon had bugs and concealed it while insisting it was for the benefit of the defence, those people have a special place in hell waiting for them.
@@josephkerrigan733I wouldn't be so sure they exist.
Facing hard questions is nothing compared to going to prison and losing your job.
Going to prison....losing job....or becoming so depressed and at wits end with family, and friends....that you take your own life.
And being verbally abused by your community because they think you're a thief .
@@anthonyduncalf-uk We know she is a thief. What else is taking stolen money and pay own bonuses from it.
A cost of doing business these days. They seem to be psychopaths. No empathy, shame, regret or conscience. Just malignant narcissism.
Dont forget a lot of people handed over their life savings to avoid jail.
Leave the poor woman alone. All she wants to do is be free to count her millions and forget all about the people she trampled over to get them.
I wonder if she pops a few quid in the collection box on Sunday morning ?
People are so immoral nowaday not allowing this womand to keep her millions and cbe.all those people sent to jail and the unborn child sent to jail should just leave her alone
She's clearly had the same Media training all politicians receive. Slippery non answers 🐍
Exactly. She instead states an indisputable fact, which leaves us no closer the getting an answer to the question the prosecution had asked. Slimy.
That’s one of the few good things about social media , we can see immediately and compare the phrases used , the tactics taught to avoid accountability and responsibility . We see the same phrases used again and again in cynical manipulation to avoid the truth and make it harder for others to find it . We’re beginning to see how these games are played by her kind who support each other in their criminality
yes a complete bias crimminal
You let a pregnant woman go to jail when you knew she was innocent!!!
She looks taller sat in her seat, she's sat on all her fucking money
she is a rat
what comes accross is...............
yep because she loved Post Office more, than some innocent nobody
refused to address issues because doing so would impact the post office
everything she did was to protect the post office and herself, if that ment throwing innocent post masters under the bus so be it
She doesn’t luv the po luvs the money,if she loved it that much why did she leave liar.
@@apiscator444my Dad was threw under a bus. Yes actually. No metaphor
They threw him under a no 10 bus🤢
She should be in prison and her salary taken back and given to all the innocent postmasters.
starting with the bonuses!
🎯🎯🎯
@@ninthsunn plus the superannuation
To send her to prison would make other CEO's much more vigilant.
And kicked out of the church!
Of course she loved the PO, where else could you get paid millions to do a job where you not accountable for any decisions, don't have to remember anything and any problems are someone elses fault.
In a nutshell.
Well said, so true.
Politicians bankers have jobs like that.
She loved the institution - with her as its supreme leader. She didn't give a stuff about any of the SPMs
@theresearcher253 And the money, expense account and bonuses, a mighty fine pension as well
Give her the same punishment as the accused JAIL !!!! Crocodile tears
She should have all the jail sentences put together
And asset strip - she should not profit from crime!
yes agree false tears from a crimminal
She's absolutely not stupid. If hundreds of thousands of sub postmasters were flagging issues with the horizon systems, she chose to ignore them. And she deserves to be in jail. People committed suicide because of her negligence. Shame on her!
Pure evil
I didn't realise every tenth person was a sub postmaster. Interesting. Are you Diane Abbot?
These people have disgraced a national institution and ruined people's lives.. It's high time they are all found accountable.
The post office is finished outdated.
Nothing will happen to them because they are all in a massive club (you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours) and the likes of us ain't in it and never will be.
and took lives...
@@KippaxInThailand sadly true!
all the great British institutions are going down one by one, such a pity, China once a victim of British colonial policy is on the rise, what a shame
crocodile tears, blubbing because she has been caught...
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It's finally come home to roost
@@Dave-bb3vy- not yet. Not 'til she's in Holloway for 10 years.
Damage limitation tears.
Crying for herself, not her victims.
That REALLY looks like her trying to imitate the former Subpostmaster from Newcastle, Sarah Burgess Boyde. Disgusting.
The banal face of evil. She was willing to see innocent people in jail just to protect herself and her money.
That's how they get to the top ruthless and Psychotics
Personally i cant wait for The Omen 4 to be released,,
@@KrisPBacon-ts6vp Psychopaths, I think you mean? And yes, absolutely. She exhibits typical psychopathic behaviour. Have a look at (around) 5.25, when someone in the audience interjects (with a comment I couldn't make out). For the briefest of moments, she looks like she forgets where she is and she's about to round on and chew out the person who interjects, then remembers where she is and calculates (wrongly, as it turns out) that a better strategy is to turn on the waterworks.Which psychopaths can do at the drop of a hat. And I know whereof I speak!!
Banal face more like anal face spouting all them lies every time you speak shite comes out
the devil incarnate..
"I failed in my duty as a leader, as a director, as a business executive and most of all I failed as a human. Innocent people's lives were destroyed, figuratively and literally. I accept full responsibility for the failings on my watch, and the consequences of those failings." are the words we need to hear and never will.
The shameless blaming of everyone but herself is the most raw display of cowardice I have ever seen.
How people with a complete void of character and substance ever make it into these positions of responsibility is the problem.
At best, she simply didn't understand what was required of her job. At worst, she knew what was happening and lacked the substance to intervene.
Sounds like you're also describing Starmer !!
She loved the Post Office. What she really means is she loved the big fat paycheque and the bonuses.
What she didn't like was responsibility and accountability.
She should be jailed and all her assets sold and her pension taken from her
If I did my job as bad as she did I'd got sacked......
Yes true but what did they do give her a bonus and a pay rise any other person would be in jail by now 🤔
@@gazzwells986 You're obviously not in the police.
@@ianflynn2353hat would be the right thing to happen but it won't the establishment look after their own.she will escape scot free .no chance of prosecutions
Too right
She should lose her pension, her salary, and should have to pay back all the money postmasters and mistresses lost or were forced to pay back. The tears are phony and done to try to gain empathy.
Sympathy
She deserves Jail
and go to prison
The tears were genuine but only for herself being caught out
And at least 15-20 years at his majesty's
This is what ZERO accountability looks like.
And that is exactly what politicians have.
She should be put in jail and put away for a very long time, instead just like all High level employees she will run to the hills with zero responsibility and live a life of luxury. The UK is a sick place to live.
Corrupt. Just like everywhere there are politicians.
Well said.
She will probably be dead by the time this inquiry is done, perhaps they ALL should be in jail until it's over?
She should never be allowed to keep those bonuses. Utterly disgraceful.
Failed to investigate, Zero accountability... needs to be in Jail.
Hundred millions spent of tax payers money prosecuting the innocents...how does she sleep at night...
@@mariachester950upside down, in the crypt 🦇
The fact she was an Anglican priest whilst exploiting all these working people. Says it all 😅
What does it say? That priests need to be faultless, never do a bad job? Really?!
another "Good Christian"
@@rachelbarlow9382 No she had no moral compass and was living a lie.
She sought power, authority, status and had no moral compass. Becoming a priest is a good choice for someone like that, it adds to the tapestry of lies
@@rachelbarlow9382Clergy is one of the top ten careers of Psychopaths. Psychopaths can feel no empathy for others and only think of themselves
This witch needs to be in jail!
Please do not disrespect witches
😂😂😂
I came to add my defence of witches...
No witch that I know would behave like Venneljs...
It's embarrassing to watch her well rehearsed performance of blaming everyone other than herself, but as CEO, the buck stopped with her. She should own up and take whatever's coming to her.
15 yrs minimum sentence, no parole, if justice was real
Crying because she has been caught out and is now answerable to a higher authority.
It’s like some of the kids of today. It’s only a crime if they get caught.
@@Turtle_Zed Kids of today? Crying is a longstanding defence against accusations. No doubt it's in Shakespeare's plays.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx when I was teaching, some kids used to sometimes turn up at school with sweets they had actually stolen from a shop on the way to school. I asked the cohort if they thought stealing was wrong. The response was ‘only if you get caught’. They could not understand that stealing was wrong per se.
And so it is with Vennells. Had she not been caught then she would still have her CBE and by now, Saint Paula would be the Bishop of London.
In my opinion, her apparent distress is not caused by the wrong she has caused others, it’s because she has been caught and she has lost what could have been.
@@Turtle_Zed That mentality has a very long history. I suspect that Eve was distressed only because God had caught her taking the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx I bet there are numerous people who have got PhD’s on what they ‘suspect’ to be the case.
I’m thinking of the laughable Doctor of Divinity qualification and ‘how many angels can dance on the head of a pin’.
You see, I’m a left brainer, I deal with logic and numbers. I struggle to use any part of my right brain so I have no creativity nor appreciation of the arts, languages, music etc. I wish I did but I don’t. Some people may consider me autistic but I just feel normal.
On the plus side, I work in both education and the construction industry which places me at the very base of the Maslow hierarchy of needs. Unlike ‘arty’ people, I have never been out of work because what I have to offer is always in demand.
Returning to your reply, I know of the bible but I think it’s a work of fiction and I need more than suspicions before I believe something. That having been said, I’ll go along with statistical inference but it has to be three times normal confidence limits for me personally.
Have a good weekend
Innocent people were bankrupted and driven to suicide .....she needs to spend the rest of her life in prison .
Totally agree, even Andrew Bridgen brought it up in parliament in 2013.
Unfortunately they only lock up the poor.
I fear that NOTHING will happen to her. She will continue somewhere else in another privileged position and the same people will end up with nothing.
I'm hope the papers hound them
Nothing holy about this one
Nothing will happen to any of the leaders despite the overwhelming evidence that they were wrong.
It’s a disgrace and we all know she is lying because it’s been verified by evidence yet she still denies it.
Fucking lying bitch. Corporate bs.
@@strandedstarfish judge not!
No one will employ her nowadays.
She spent £100k of public money shutting down a Postmaster who contested the allegations!
Shes evading and dodging every question-just like a politician!
Vennells had a responsibility to the postmasters and she, and her cohorts, utterly failed in that responsibility. Shame on them all. A national disgrace for Britain.
Vennels and Hebblethwaite. P.O. and P&O . Both should be jailed.
You are joking mate😮
No way no way
Being accused of mudering Elvis Presley. How childish!
@@DarrenJamiesonJamieson ???????
@@DeeLee-p8c How is that Nazi interrigation there helping The Post Office. By my reckoning she was the only one left there against privatisation and being the last one left sticking her neck out!
Fucking poor show there mate (people trying to make names for themselves at the expence of others), and a real coup for some!
I hate that sort of thing!
If anything its the interrogators that want locking up!
Jail her, make her pay back the money, and STOP HER PENSION
But she's entitled to a trial and a decision on guilty or not guilty. This isn't Russia or China where people get hauled into prison never to be seen again.
She should be a politician, evading every question
You can never protect yourself against the articulate incompetent
So in short she is saying she was totally incompetent. How dare she not hand back her exorbitant pension. If she was truly repentant she would do this immediately. Anglian priest? The irony. Will she be on her knees today asking forgiveness?
This needs to be dealt with in a criminal court because its a CRIME
She's an obvious liar. She is fooling no one.
There were 12,000 to 15,000 reports by postmasters to the post office help desk that the Horizon system was not working properly. The Help Desk was instructed to lie to the postmasters and tell them that no one else was reporting such problems. Obviously, someone high up in post office management told the help desk employees to lie. Who was that? Obviously, it was the post office legal department.
I loved my huge Post Office salary, and wanted to make sure I continued to receive it.
The wisdom, ethics, morals, virtue and more of Paula Venal laid bare. And crocodile tears too. Lovely.
Why do so many useless people get promoted far above their ability
DEI
friends in high places. they look out for each other but not the normal folk.
Useless people are very useful to the 'system' as they usually know just enough to do what they're told...
What I found working within large organisations, is a kind of conspiracy of silence around their mutual incompetence, at high levels. Their instinct is to cover each other's arses; such that you don't see more of their monkey arses as they climb the tree. I must add, that this isn't about DEI (it's much older), they all do the same dance, regardless of background, once they are 'in'. Integrity is seen as foolish by them.
people use them for tools like this chief of police caught out after 32 years and no one detected any thing that a servicemen would pick up on im minutes in the police force.
The Obligatory "Cry like a LIttle School Girl" coupled with an "Insincere Apology" and she believes everything is now okay ..Strip them of their assets to help pay for the Millions of pounds us tax payers are going to have to pay out in compensation
Hear hear,
@@Poppycat9182My view exactly. Putting them in prison will cost the public even more money!
Aww, come on...She said a heartfelt sorry. And I think she meant it. She's been embarrassed enough thus far. Even brought to tears. WWJD?
Same with the government ministers and civil servants dealing with this case
@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 you ate kidding? Can' tell?
Crying without Tears? that's just pulling a face Pet
Well said 😂
@@user-bu9nb8wr6e And what a face🐟🐟🐟
@@user-bu9nb8wr6eAnd what a face😂
It's a boat only a mother could love.
Pulling a face of a pet more like ( rat) 😂😂😂
She failed to do her job and allowed the death and imprisonment of innocent people. She obviously was unfit to do the job and yet made millions of dollars at the expense of so many people lives.
She obviously wasn't the only one working for the PO.that are guilty of this tragic travesty of justice.
all of should serve jail for what the have done to so many inoscent people
It’s not America, we don’t use dollars!!!
Yes she turned downed a review on the wishes of her PR officer Mark Davies.
Dollars? What's wrong with you?
You are so right 👍
Those are the tears of someone who is only remorseful for being caught.
Take back her £3 million. This woman has no soul.
Vennells said "I wasn't an IT expert..." You don't need to be an IT expert to realise that when there are thousands of occurrences of accounts not reconciling there are problems with the system!!!!
The level of incompetance at Director/CEO level is shocking! She is not alone!
She didn't love the post office, she loved the power trip and terror she caused
Typical faux person trying to make us believe she is Christian....
Totally out of her depth !
How earth did she get the job in the first place
Depends who she was f..king
These diversity picks should be banned. Her behaviour is not that of a Head of a multi million business with thousands of employees.
So what exactly did she do all day if she knew nothing'-saw nothing-and remembered nothing?
counting her vast salary
She needs jail to help her correct the crocodile tears she is as corrupt as they come 😮
She was paid a lot of money to be accountable in such circumstances. She now has to be held accountable and face consequences. Our institutions are broken if nobody is held accountable.
She didn't get "the balance between the institution and the individual right". 900 sub-postmasters prosecuted. 278 jailed. 4 suicides. CEO walks away with £2.2 million. That's some imbalance.
Best comment I've read so far. This is business as usual for our elites. UK, Australia, France, Canada, USA - you name it. The people at the top can destroy the the plebs wile they stripmine wealth all they want - it's been going on for generations. The difference is, in the era of recording devices, social media and mass communications, the little people can get informed real quick, see what is going on and ORGANIZE. The miniseries that has ignited public outrage and anger about this particular scandal is a good example of that.
The Post Office Scandal is one of literally dozens and dozens of similar heartless, selfish crimes perpetrated by the managerial class with absolute impunity. Their rapacity and greed know no limit and will never stop - until it is stopped. Working people in the West (for the first time in history) can see what is going on without the distorted lens of corporate media controlling the story, and with the ability the organize and take action directly, without needing unions or corruptible "bosses" to organize for them. Look at the Truckers in Canada and the wonderful Farmers across Europe. Our lords and masters don't know HOW to deal with that, so the overreact and fumble.
If the elites trashing our fellow citizens and institutions for personal gain and power had any sense at all, they'd realize just how exposed they are. Tsars and Kings with absolute power have been overthrown by peasants - don't forget that. A bunch of dithering, selfish bureaucrats and management types will crumble overnight when faced with serious for real opposition.
Sadly not an isolated case, there are so many MDs that are not worthy of high positions. Water companies, John Lewis, leaders at care homes and many more
Statistically while applying common sense that Vennells doesn't possess, it's highly unlikely that as many as 900 postmasters where crooks. She was never challenged on this issue.
She should be in jail not the postal workers
Why is she not in jail? Guilty as sin.
This woman had plenty of time from when it all kicked off to investigate it, and she didn't! How can someone just watch innocent people go to jail and do absolutely NOTHING to prevent that! Horrendous!
She knew what was going on ! Put her in prison !!!
She "loved the post office" but didn't care at all for the people who worked for it
Rich people do not care workers at all.
This witch will throw anyone under the bus. Being a colleague of hers is a dangerous place to be. Any time she's facing culpability the first word out of her mouth is someone else's name. Off to jail Paula
You are correct. She is the 1st person to break ranks and start playing the blame game.
The others only didn't remember but never blamed anyone, in fact I felt they rallied behind her.
She must be one nasty bit of work.
I remember when I started in my job forty years ago. On advice of a mentor, I quickly established myself in a side role, which took me into the training side of the company rather than management. That meant attending a lot of management meetings over the last 30 years and that means getting to see managers in a true light. They will openly lie to protect themselves from taking the blame for anything that doesn't go right or to claim the credit for anything that does. Duplicity and doing whatever it takes at the expense of whomever it takes is the order of the day. An honest and genuine manager is like an honest politician. Their honesty will only be used against them as a weapon by other managers to undermine them. I tell all my trainees that if a manager ever asks them to do something that is against process or off the books, they should always get it in writing first. It's amazing how many times managers tell staff to do things and if the staff member asks for it in an email to confirm it, the manager goes and asks someone else to do it instead. Then, if there's any blowback, they completely thrown that person under the bus and claim they misunderstood what they were instructed to do. In short, I wouldn't trust a manager as far as they could spit.
No remorse, no compassion, only cares about herself. She should be jailed
If she doesn't go to jail Britain is a banana republic.
One or two dodgy post offices in the country fair enough. But how many got accused? . Surely they must have thought something was wrong . But to let it go on like it did. Is unforgiving
My thoughts exactly...Agree with every word..
Around 900....shocking isn't it
Over 10-15 years 10,000 offices maybe 10 submasters in the network may have been dodgy that's 0.1% very low in any company. 1000 that's 10% of the network she must of knew something was going wrong.
it beggars belief that no one on the board didn’t realise something was amiss when they suddenly had 100s of hard working postmasters suddenly appearing to be stealing. group think doesn’t cut it, they just didn’t give a sxxt.
Why didn’t they realise that there was No Money Trail, ie Luxury holidays, new cars , bigger houses, watches and jewellery?
Yeah loved it so much you put other people under a bus 😡
Being treated like scum of the earth by the people who the postmaster served.Being shunned by your by friends and not trusted by family. To having there poor kids even bullied at school. And innocent people put in prison and finally. To Martain griffiths who took his life. No-one could imagine what he was feeling. My heart goes out to you all. But this woman needs to understand crying will not help her.
Send here to jail like she was happy to see the incent post office workers go to jail !!!!!
should be detectives speaking to her.
Just an absolute litany of lies from Paula.
She didn't shed a tear for the lives she ruined as she was ruining them
She also lied under oath in open court which is perjury and a very serious offence which carries a five year mandatory sentence.
It's unforgivable how the British government and senior directors and the CEO of the Post Office close ranks but thank God justice will prevail - Send them to jail as they did with so many innocent people shame on you all.
I get very annoyed when people in very high profile positions fall from grace and then try to get people on their side, she was paid very very well and received bonuses only most of us can only dream of winning never mind earning, but now she is sorry for everything…….. she ain’t fooling anyone.
Corruption and incompetence everywhere
Crocodile tears and fears.
She needs to go to JAIL!
JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED!!!!
Lying through her back teeth
She cries without tears
Probably a similar medical complaint to Prince Andrew - unable to produce moisture!
When you have no eyebrows or eye lashes, you probably have no tear ducts. She certainly has no soul!
Yep, she pulls her face and tries to squeeze tears out but doesn't seem to manage it
Now way would anyone be appointed as a CEO if they would breakdown when questioned - it is an act.
Great isnt it.... i go 10mph over the speed limit get fined. These people get millions. Screw up then get to keep the money and then walk free after destroying other peoples lives and then it'll be the public that pays the compensation !! Its insane !!
CEO of the PO and yet "I knew nothing about"!!??
None so blind as those who will not see.
“I loved the Post Office”. Well, yeah, if you are raking in a massive salary from it, and also taking no real responsibilities or stresses on for that massive salary, you would love it. She clearly didn’t give a shit about the welfare of employees, or try to investigate what was happening in the organisation.
I loved the post-office and the large salary i was on........Ive just covered my own back
She was never qualified for the job.
She never understood enough about the complexity of the job, or the technicalities of the job.
She never got a grip of her subordinates, and they in turn ended up capturing her.
The most basic, instinctive mindset of bureaucrats is that once something starts to go wrong, you just hunker down harder and hope it will all go away.
And certainly the PO was an ossified relic, overstaffed by exactly the wrong type of people.
When change and new thinking was required, it was both missing, and resisted.
The job of a CEO coming into an organisation undergoing a radical reform program is to drive that change hard.
Vennells wanted to be liked, and lead a happy team - whereas the actual requirement was for a bastard who remove people from their comfort zones, and their jobs if necessary.
Vennells patently wasn't capable of evaluating her senior staff critically, or have the spine and mongrel to deal to them effectively.
At which point, serious inquiry must be given to who appointed Vennells, and why - because that was a serious primary failure right there.
Who thought Vennells was the right person for this job ???
Will 'they' ever get the spotlight shone on them ?
The fish rots from the head.
Her husband was apparently an IT expert. He knew because all of us in the industry knew. Pity she did not ask him.
OF COURSE SHE CONSULTED WITH HIM !!..........HIS ANSWER.....KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT & CARRY ON TAKING THE £MILLIONS !!!!!!!!!!!
@mikebarnes3557 I was not clear. She said she did not understand IT.
Did you realy have to shout?
He knew. He told her to replace the term for ´defect’ with ´anomaly’ or ´exception’. Two psychopaths plotting how to throw sand in the public eye.
She is a murderer what she done to the people below her she had no sympathy
I loved the Post Office, they gave me an overinflated salary and massive bonuses, I am really sorry that I had to hand back my CBE and that I was caught lying
The woman is either grossly incompetent or a total liar. She’s head of a huge company but appears to know nothing about her own company. Disgrace, this is criminal and she should be punished.
She is both, she is an incompetent liar.
How many tears did this lady shed when all those innoncent people had their lives ruined? Dispicable !!
She got acting lessons from Amber Heard 😭😭😭😭
and worst actor award goes to....
😅
It would have been AWFUL to have 30,000 post office branches; countless postmasters' lives ruined and those of their families
A vile individual who even now refuses to accept any responsibility for what happened. If she thinks those tears are going to save her, she’d better think again.
I worked as a consultant in IT at the PO many, many years ago - well before Horizon came along, I’ll add. But the managers and team leaders I worked for were like bulldogs in ensuring their systems were suppirted and maintained to a very high standard. I had total respect for them. What on earth went wrong?
Did you know Norman McKay? My uncle who worked for the PO in the 50s 60s and 70s and 80s. I believe he was fairly high up there. He is passed now but wouldn't have allowed this to happen as he had such integrity.
She's laughing not crying because she knows nothing will be done , and might get a book and film out of this!
I just cannot imagine the suffering she has caused to these innocent post office owners.
I’m so sick of people saying I’m not an IT person….you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that the discrepancies clearly meant something wasn’t right.
Accept it , you messed up and stop crying .
Anyone in their right mind would question the number of post office managers stealing money. Did anyone in the post office check how many post office managers stole money in the previous 20 years. I am sure it was very low if any. I think jail for the most prominent ones involved is nessesary and just
The key thing is that they distrusted SPMs; the fact that Horizon revealed discrepancies confirmed them in their belief that SPMs always had their fingers in the till. They trusted Horizon because it told them what they wanted to hear.
She is a predator
When you've no cards left to play: ladytears.
Are you for real mate?????
Are u for real mate???
Yes she is definitely very ruthless. She is a wolf in sheep clothing in this inquiry.
@@gabrielc1989w Leave the poor woman alone. She triedher best
She played at being a CEO did nothing and according to her she knew nothing which turned out to be all lies in other words all she did was collect her salary. Then weeps when caught out. A typical CEO in Britian.
She is a typical example of way to many CEO'S and GMs that simply do NOT care for their work force, their ONLY priority are targets and profit, I work for a company that has a self made CEO that cares for its staff, but it took me a life time to find it, and now that I have I feel confident in saying, I will stay till I retire, our country used to be GREAT Britain, but people like this have made this country a total sham. Finally to quote the woke generation, "I'm not angry, I am very disappointed" (even though it's hard not to get angry, as it's a waste of energy)
She's weeping now...but that's her craft and artfulness
"Trust not a woman when she weeps, for it is her nature to weep when she wants her will."
--Socrates
I would disagree with that statement on the whole but in Paula's case I would agree with it 100%
@@olwenrose2780I’d go with Socrates over your opinion 😂
Socrates was a very wise man . Who are you?@olwenrose2780
Doesn't Socrates play right- half for Spurs ??