How AI art is ruining mental health for artists
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- AI art has created the worst mental health crisis ever recorded. So what can artists do about it? Are artists doomed to evolve or die, or just die off? In this video, you'll learn the genesis of everything you're feeling and why you're really afraid of AI art (or more accurately, AI image generation, since it's not art) like nobody has ever told you before. By the end of this, you will feel MUCH better!
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00:00 AI destroys mental health for artists
I stopped sharing art after AI became a mass thing because I hated the idea of it stealing my work just to recycle it out for any random person who clicked a button enough times, potentially to sell to other people who don't know any better. I didn't want to feed its theft.
That's a relatable experience for many artists. How are you positively dealing with that concern now and how are you empowering yourself to create?
@@TheArtMentorglaze, nightshade.
Getting into close conversations with artists.
Abd pushing on regulation
Ai is abusing the mental health of its users too. It’s just an unacceptable toxicity that needs to be purged from humanity immediately.
@@GamingPalOllieMKbro I checked your deviant art i dont think you can be considered pro tbh. You kinda low skill so its understandable why you might think ai art is cool
that's true that it's preying upon it's own userbase. In fact, isn't it fair to say that is their marketing ploy?
lol did an ai bro slip into this comment thread?
Pretty soon AI art will be regulated, and AI in general is one of *the* most hated thing in existence, even if people use it for yucks and laughs, it’s not worth our time, it’s just another NFT situation, and honestly I feel embarrassed for stressing about it in the first place.
YE HAW FOR THE ARTISTS
Lets glaze our artworks and Poison databases
@@desenhistaanonimo3997 I drink to that. 🍷
@@desenhistaanonimo3997 **raises her coffee cup and nods**
Tbh though I personally was more stressing out about the hype people had created the mindless push for the bs ~ though I ain't gonna say you're wrong.
it's inevitable that the current wild west landscape and abuses of the ai development companies will come to an end, won't it? What makes them feel so entitled to do what they want and think repercussions will never come?
I have absolutely no fear of A.i. "art". I've been trained to fight robots my entire life by sci fi. I notice tje people most enamored by A.i. images aren't artists. Actual artists can spot it easily.
If the A.i. wants a fight. Bring it tf on
As much as I hate to admit: Yes, AI do want a fight, and if it grows without limitations like energy or processing power, it'll win.
and have you noticed how even non-artists are growing increasingly savvy as well?
yet those limitations both exist and are imposed upon it. Also, who will enjoy consuming machine content? When will machines become consumers?
@@TheArtMentor Artists like me and you won't enjoy AI content, but we can't say that for the majority. One thing that I'm very sure of is the scarcity & value. If there's an infinite amount of something available with the cost of close to nothing, then it's worthless, like AI art.
@@arbitool Not really, a lot of people (at least where Im from) are kinda getting sick of AI and all of these tech things. You cant up the supply if the demand stays the same. Plus, its quite unsustainable tbh :\
One of the only things that I hate seeing ai art is trying to look for references via google images and such. Like bruh, I'm searching for specific references, not slobs of pixels 😂. Damn those corpos.
Ikr?
so true! I'm making a video on that topic in the near future. Does that sound helpful and interesting to you?
In the long run, what would you rather be known for? Having Ai make something for you, or making something yourself? Even if people believe your art is Ai, you know it's yours, and there's personal satisfaction in that.
That's such a powerful sentiment. At the core of artmaking is you. The decisions you make, the process you feel, the emotions you imbue in your production. It's literally a human artifact of yourself, isn't it? What's the purpose in removing those components?
As soon as I saw the title they gave me a flashback of Ai art, a month I don't remember, I had like a mental breakdown due to future worries, stress and more news of Ai replacing jobs in general if it is not regulated. I won't lie, I had the idea for the S word, but after deciding to take things slow. I realized that yes, AI art would be something normal anyway, that would never stop me from wanting to draw or create. :)
I'm so sorry to hear about your struggles, and I'm proud of you for pulling yourself out of that state. Did this video help reframe some of those old or lingering concerns you have/had?
For me, what is scaring me the most is that i will lose a job that i absolutely love to some algorythm faster than me. That would brake my hearth. Fear of obsolesence doesnt help either :/
So how did this video help you reframe that thinking?
@@TheArtMentor Well, I am trying to curate my influences and personal space to be positive and it helps for sure! :)
Imo companies will eventually realize how negatively people think about AI art. To me and many other consumers, AI art just screams “we have no budget” which is the last thing companies want
I just ignore them and through some... let's just call it "tweaking," I've managed to make it so that they don't even show up on image searches. And I use Google sparingly anyway given how predatory it is to begin with. I just hang out on Discord with fellow artists. I know that the "tech bros" want artists to fall into depression and despair, or even calling them to commit suicide (happened to me once), thus showing off how maliciously sociopathic and petty they are. Those people are not worth even a glance.
Well said, real human made art will always be tops. We have heart, soul and lived experience :D
@@Creative_Calico I call tech bros "binary brained homunculi" in that they reject their own humanity in their stupidity and blind reverence to pointless technology. The images in turn I call C.R.A.P (Computer-Rendered Artificial Pictures).
Isn't it awful how the AI zealots desire the downfall of artists and relish in declining mental health? Photoshop users never desired that for traditional artists, nor did photography for painters. This is truly a horrendous feat isn't it?
@@TheArtMentor Now I just have a hard time taking those people seriously on account that these are the same crowd who champion other scams like Crypto and NFTs, and bonkers ideas like Google Glass back in the 2010s. I've taken to calling them "binary-brained homunculi", on account of the myth of artificially made humans and playing on how these people are incapable of any form of independent thought outside of what a computer or deluded tech mogul tells them to think. And their collection of ad hominems like "democratizing" something that's been free to do since, well, caveman times pretty much, and calling critics or real artists "fascists" or "Nazis" thus diminishing the actual severity of what those groups did to actual flesh and blood humans.
Speaking as a digital artist, I actually respect traditional artists way more. I gravitated to digital more due to lack of space and the fact I've severe dust allergy so I'd be sneezing up a storm and my eyes would go red when drawing on paper. That is to say I'm not using it as an excuse, I've tried to gradually revert to traditional, complete with sketchbooks, quality wooden coloring pencils I bought many years back that are still usable, and these nifty perspective aids you can put under paper with the aid of an LED light table. It's just that I'm juggling three different passions on top of a job (I'm a writer and voice over artist too) so sometimes things just get left on the wayside.
I know its offtopic but just quickly wanted to say that your speedpaints in the background basically gave me the push to get out of pixelart (which i have been doing for over 2 years) and start doing more high-res stuff (going from 128x128 to 2048x2048 canvases)
good luck bro :] i believe in you and i hope you have fun
Oh wow thanks so much for saying so! I'm happy to hear you appreciate my work. That means a lot to me 😁
It's funny. Most companies are switching to A.I Because it's much cheaper to use A.I if the product FAILS.
So.....companies are literally PLANNING to fail, but HOPING to succeed. O_O
Yeah like Toys R Us and their latest ai commercial? So saving money will save a failed company? Lol. That's a reason enough for there being no more Toys R Us kids
I'm starting my creative endeavor by participating in indie animated projects, and the people I associate with those said projects reject "A.I." and want to focus on their own creative abilities.
That's an awesome goal! What kinds of animations do you make? That sounds really cool
@@TheArtMentor I'm voicing a character in this upcoming project called "Roswell". The Indiegogo campaign starts July 7th.
Another thing in addition to your usual great stuff here: It IS exactly going how you predicted too, TAM!
Apparently the numbers of disillusioned people is growing, because their "Ai art sells" have started to rapidly decline due to one, the bad looks overall and two, the market rule of something getting a very very low price the more abundant it is. And places like Etsy are flooded with AI stuff.
So what you said in an older video holds 100% true "you know what will still have value? Stuff that WE do!"
Keep on creating~
Oh thanks for bringing up those points! It's fascinating to see all of those predictions unfolding, you know that? But honestly, do you know what matters more than being right or making accurate predictions based on my experience? Helping encourage artists like you to focus on what you want to do. Honestly, even if this video helps one more person pick their pencil back up, I'm satisfied.
Thanks for your kind words!
Personally I try to not worry too much about AI and just focus on being creative myself, just like back in the day where it was simply other artists making better art than me.
I think people will still support artists even in the midst of AI. There are people who will always seek the humanity, especially in things like art. To me at least, art without humanity isnt art.
That's a wonderful perspective! Thanks for sharing your encouragement to everyone reading this. What kinds of projects do you enjoy working on lately?
@@LegendWolfA yee, agreed on that ^w^
@@TheArtMentor me, or LegendWolfA? :D If you asked me, I'm currently drawing for a webcomic, as well as doing a whole bunch of commissions. Also occasional work on adult indie games.
@@TheArtMentor thought I would answer too even tho im not sure if this is for me. Well lately I havent been able to do much due to eye operations and stuff, but I have been drawing some stuff for an event. Not good at it but its fun.
Something like AI art is just a true waste of time. While you get art right away, you get nothing else. No skill, no journey, no growth. I have grown as an artist so much in the past years, I wouldn't trade it for the world.I want the next generations and many many after forever, to enjoy creativity.
that i can agree on
That personal growth component is what is actually meaningful and venerable, isn't it? Shouldn't we finally realize that people don't appreciate the products, but rather appreciate the efforts of the creators?
Hello, im an illustrator, have been working in the industry for almost 25 years now and i gotta say, personally for me, A.I. hasn't been a problem in my career. yeah, all this mess had may put things a little more difficult for us all, but to be honest, being an artist on any medium, it always has been difficult, no matter what, so yeah, I have the same opinion as you, this new era for artists it's nothing more that a new challenge that we have beat, artists have existed forever, this is not going to be the ends of us. lets take advantage of this and keep going.
great video by the way.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives, and I hope more artists read your words and feel the power of them. Also, just to add, even though the demands of artists continuously becomes greater, isn't it equally fair to acknowledge that the resources and expertise has become more shared throughout time?
i heard people use the example of pottery making, even if its thousands of years old, until today, the people that creates pottery are still valued, i think the people that get affected by this are the people that just got into art and got newbie skill( sorry for the lack of words to say it more decent). but its just like that because its still new, everything that continue working improves with dedication!
And invariably, the skills of newer artists continue to improve as expectations rise for artistry, which has been going on for decades, hasn't it? Sometime the adjustment curve seems extreme until the newcomers are tested on their resolve. What do you think about that?
These days even though there is still a slight worry within me, I chose not to care about AI art and decided to focus more on myself.
Your videos, some insight from other artists, the Metal Gear series, and the people who truly adore my art have fully re-ignited the almost dying flame of creativity within me and brought it back to its prime.
I want to thank you for your videos, they’ve helped me have a more positive outlook on this situation! I’ve never given up on my goal of becoming a comic artist but despite that this ai stuff still caused quite some anxiety.
Thankfully the ai act passed in Europe, which means they have to be transparent about their training data and need authorization of the copyright holder to use their stuff. It’ll be interesting to see what will happen when these companies (at least in europe) have to adhere to these laws.
And again thank you for your what you do!
How do you feel about the bs Adobe is doing right now?
So as an Adobe user, I myself am not happy about the foci of Adobe and its practices right now. However, I also do not use the cloud and haven't updated my software since 2021 specifically because of this issue haha
noticing the A.I imgs looks the same it been for the past year...
A.I hit the ceiling a long time ago.
Precisely! And yet AI bros keep saying it's evolving. Into what? It can't progress past what it was trained on, can it? It's subservient to artists, not the other way around
As the Stoics say: there are some things we bear no control over, but what we can control are our reactions to those things.
Exactly! It's a matter of where you focus your energy, isn't it?
This is very insightful. I don't fear AI art per se, but I feel incredibly disappointed that it's become so abundant to the point of being generic and uninspiring. I like seeing different people make original things, but with AI everyone is just making the same boring thing
I have a number of friends in the tech industry. Including someone who works in machine learning. As time goes on, many of them are absolutely convinced that generative AI is nothing more than another VR/crypto trend. Yes, including the man who makes AI his career. It is a creative and cultural dead end. The way the technology works just doesn't lend itself to indefinite improvement in that field. (That is, generative AI.) Much like you said, the technology DOES have valid uses in some fields. Such as research, medicine, and logistics, but creative work is not something that the technology will ever be good at. In fact, my friend who works in AI says the more he comes to work with it, the more he comes to think the term "AI" is actually a bit of a misnomer.
Because its a giant grift at the end of the day.
Thanks for sharing your insights! I've heard an alarming number of ai researchers and ethicists opposing the push for generative ai and it's always intriguing to me to hear more informed opinions like this. Can we all please admit that generative ai has relatively peaked and can't infinitely innovate? Human decide on trends and those are ever evolving
AI is affecting mental health of those who use it for work too. What many are doing, some not realizing, is that they are telling something else to do most of the thinking while they will be left with the fixing part of the job, which might sound nice and easy at first but it's also the most boring and repetitive side of whatever you're doing. What they ultimately get is that they are turning any job into a repetitive, mindless grind, much more than what they would have faced if they did the whole process themselves. Sure, it's faster, but will it still be a job you enjoy few months from now? Or will it have turned just like factory job, when they added CNC machinery and all that improved is productivity while the job is an absolute grind, where the humans are forced to adapt to the new speed standard and can't catch a break for a damn minute? I did 7 years with CNCs and 6 years with manual machinery after. I learnt that manual machinery is harder, slower and less precise, but God if it was much more fulfilling and immensely less boring.
AI is the multimedia version of that. All it does it trivialize your job and turn it into an eternal, mindless grind where you need to rush the whole time, yet every minute feels like hours. It is why I despise the idea of it introduced for meaningful activities such as creating something yourself.
I think you're missing the main point alot of more well known artists in online circles are stressing which is the blatant thief of their art to make the AI art programs work and the legal stuff around it.
That being said the mental health messaging is a good reminder to everyone in the art community not to let AI stop them from making more art.
Have you seen my other videos on this topic? I’ve addressed that one a few times by now, which I agree is also an important topic. It just doesn’t fit into this video’s theme
Honestly after seeing how much it was pushed everywhere and how most of my regulars just started using it i almost wanted to stop drawing.
Batman never gave up on Gotham, and Batboy should never give up on drawing.
@@nonyabusiness3619 you are right. thank you
I totally understand your concerns and that fear. How did this video help positively influence your opinion about your efforts?
@@TheArtMentor even if people would rather use AI I'll still draw because I have a story I wanna create
Thank you so much for this video, Sean. It has really helped to put me at ease and refocus on what matters --my art and my mental health.
My pleasure, and I'm thrilled to hear this helped you! What resonated with you the most in this video?
Having spent the last couple of years obsessivly looking at AI art I am getting a sense that it's hit some kind of plateau- I see a lot 'rendering' improvements in terms of getting details and surfaces better- but in terms of storytelling and narrative most AI art fails badly- AI images don't seem to hold my attention in the same way a well crafted human image does.
Non Artists take the view that visual Art is all about technique and rendering but that's not really true- what makes a good piece of art is it's ability to suggest narrative, to convey a sense of meaning- very few AI generated images seem to posses this quality- they are the visual equivilent of the 'show not tell' problem in literature- just as a good writer will not simply tell you things but show you things, a good work of art does not simply display picture elements in a formal and literal way- it shows those elements 'in medais res' as part of an ongoing story.
AI may never be able to do this because it does not really 'think' the way human artists think- for example to successfully depict multiple characters interacting in an image you need to develop some 'theory of mind' regarding those characters and the nature of their relationship to each other, then compose and light that image to successfully convey those relationships- human artists do this instinctively- but getting an AI to incorporate these kinds of considerations into it's outputs may be for ever beyond reach- certainly these kinds of insights are well beyond the capabilites of the current generation of AI Art programmes.
I just surround myself with people who also hate it and create real art. I block every account associated with it and look away. It’s not gonna stop me from creating art. It sucks though.
A lot of people dont understand thatthe situation is a bit more multifaceted than just the consumers not caring of how AI generation sffects artists, while it is true that most consumers dont care about how automated a particular industry is unless it affects them directly, the fact of the matter is that generative AI isnt just a threat to just visual artist but any job that requires expression through a visual medium, that means models, photographers, 2d artists, 3d artists, news broadcasters, actors, content creators etc, and not to mention the copyright cesspool that AI has caused with all the impending lawsuits. The fact of the matter is with all the industries that it threatens not just individual jobs, people will start rejecting this type of content in mass since its a tool at its core designed to undercut people. Eventually it will also cannibalize itself because if in the future AI can be copyrighted while simultaneously feeding off people's work then eventually nothing will be safe within copyright law, since anyone can use your "ai work" to create content and use it then no one's work will truly be safe under copyright law and thus we'll just have a meaningless cesspool of trash content with no heart behind it and no one can claim it as their own true artistic expression, at least for those who prefer to use AI to make their content. Also the huge potential for political misinformation with deepfakes, scams and how it might affect evidence in law which at that point once those particular issues become more prominent you will start seeing more government intervention and regulations since this will directly affect them a swell. SO huge rant aside, the consumers dont care for now but they will when it's a threat to almost every job. Sadly sometimes things need to get much worse before it gets better but it will once people see what this "tool" will be used to do, it's a tool of theft and deceit more than anything else, but thing's will get better once people understand that cons vastly out weigh the pros.
I've used AI art for a while, and I'm starting to get fatigued by it. It's only good for doing certain types of poses and certain types of characters. After a while, my mind has started glossing over AI images, and the human created ones really stand out. I think this will happen to everyone eventually, so that images made with AI will fade into the background.
Blud is not making a normal art video, is literally giving a diagnostic 💀 💀 💀
Btw thank you ill save for later when i feel bad, i was just coping with old cartoons and games, i was didn even watched anything because entertainment like anime makes me wanna create more and more; and when i create i remember those ai bullshit
On the final is a loophole, thank god we still have a community, we may have different rules and ideals, but we protect each others opinions and space, thats why i love art
Much love bro your content is saving people ;-; thx
I'm so happy to hear this video resonated with you! What in this video helped you the most?
You truly are an Art Mentor.
Thanks so much for saying so. I'm blessed to have supportive members of my community like you
Though it is amusing to see the whole thing as a study, before AI art was a thing, the actual stress came from me studying higher levels of art styles that... I don't even intend to execute in my personal work.
It might be for fun or leisure, but my art style is always focused on cel-shading and anime, not that airbrush levels of realism (or the doll-face style).
It's understandable if I am playing with concept art and landscapes. But as everyday? It's beyond streesful.
AI art is just a reminder for us traumatized artists that there is always someone much "better"... But I like to believe we're all better... in our own way.
Can I reassure you that your work is equally valuable as those you study or place on a pedestal? What matters most is that your artwork is a reflection of you, not someone else. How does that sound? You grow yourself and your art, not one or the other
I got back doing traditional art after digital art its make me hate ai art even more now its physical connection what I made.
That's an interesting side effect I've seen happening. What mediums are you enjoying?
I was sad at first... But then, well. After using ai and testing different image generators i couldn't be... It's shitty, bad, generic looking, and as more experienced artist - even high quality art of ai doesn't really get to my heart.
I only like it for ai artifacts like creepy faces and heinous hands. :D
Can I say I'm proud of you for discovering the value in your own creations and those of others? That's very brave of you
Few seconds of video and I recognize already myself !
I'm getting real sick of it to be honest. Definitely getting sick of the fake images with "great photography" as a caption (and then it'll be some weird image of a baby and Labrador or a fake person building some supposed giant Jesus-shaped sand sculpture...and people fall for it). It's all just internet litter.
However, while these AI image numbnuts keep littering the internet, I'm gonna continue to draw and paint.
But even yet, it is worth to post your art online even after knowing that's going to get scrapped to generate images and scam people?
Glaze and nightshade it.
I'm making a video about this concern in the near future. How does that sound?
@@nonyabusiness3619 I don't have a potent enough PC for that and Cara doesn't do glazing anymore
@@TheArtMentor Uh, that would be neat
I find AI imagery like fools gold. Maybe it looks like gold on the surface but it’s merely a mimicry or fake. Or fake gems you buy made of plastic from your local dollar store. They’re oversaturated and cheaper, but worth so much less as their soul purpose is to appeal to aesthetics, merely just for the visual element. You wanna see the real hidden gems these days, I like to browse cara for real art. If everyone and their dog can generate an image, what’s so special about it then? Or any AI artist*? They wanna act like they have some sort or skill or talent when they’re going to be just like everyone else who can generate something with a few words. I could care less about how detailed the prompt is either, it’s all just lazy ass crap. Like bruh, you probably just trained a LORA on some poor random artist for their style, bffr.
their literally firing hundreds of employees because adobe and most companies can use your art now
some are, but many can't. Is that something you're afraid of?
@@TheArtMentor yea for future career it is scary that any company can fire you over ai art lol