Seems that the video has a few errors 3:18 shows both phones having SD8G2 when the 12 is supposed to have SD8G33 5:39 the scores are in millions and not thousands, also the label for the iQOO is also wrong once again Otherwise love the content Tom and keep the videos coming!
I'm still on an S22 Ultra so I'm on the first 8 Gen. I think I'll wait yet another year before upgrading. Battery life was bad for a while, but after nearly 2 years of updates including the recent Android 14 update, performance and battery have been solid. Battery life might even be better
@@aharonxavier4282Performance throttling, they simply just reconfigure the scheduler to run at lower clocks The 8Gen1 is fabricated using Samsung process node so it kinda sucks
@@aharonxavier4282new chips have different processing methods so older os on new chips could cause unnecessary steps in a process which wastes battery and performance speed. As they update they make the os perfectly align with the processing steps of the chip so its as effective as possible
Just a heads up, the creator of Antutu posted on Reddit that the scores on iOS cant be directly compared to the scores on Android because apoarently they test differently.
I don't understand who these gaming phones are for ? If you can afford a flagship phone with top specs you can afford a better and more enjoyable device like a playstation or PC?
There are many fps games,especially games like PUBG, Call of Duty and the convenience of such a powerful device is unparalleled. Also, the battery life is usually excellent for the performance they deliver…
We gotta agree gaming itself is dying, look over the years, pubg Minecraft genshin call of duty mobile, but nowadays it’s honkai star rail only which is turnover of genshin player at most.
Amazed at how good the photos looked on the iQOO.... I have both the iPhone 15 Pro Max and the Galaxy S23 Ultra, and while I prefer the S23 as a phone overall, the iPhone takes the better pictures. When looking at the pictures on a big, hi-res screen the Samsung may have the bolder colours, but the pictures look oversharpened and noisy while the iPhone just "gets" textures much better, the pics seem more like "real life". That oversharpening is something I did not notice on the iQOO, the pictures looked very beautifully rendered, and in the samples provided I preferred them over the iPhone pictures because of their warmer colours (the iPhone might do that too with a different colour profile though, possibly). Still.... Amazing.
@@theeverydayexplorer3 Well, it's a bit of a hobby, lol. I don't have a previous phone, I always sell the previous model when I buy the new one, they're relatively affordable that way. The only phone I ever kept were a Windows phone (Lumia 930) and the Nothing Phone (1), because I wanted to keep a Windows phone around and the Nothing Phone is just gorgeous 😅
I think the difference is iphone likes to take photos true to color…which sucks cause color in real life isnt so vibrant. Android phones seem to go the direction of touching up photos with some vibrancy which to our eyes on a still picture looks subjectively better.
@@RD014. saving files directly from Facebook to dropbox, thee chrome browser and Gboard just work better on Android, notifications are MUCH better, multi tasking, the file sharing menu, gmail, and especially UA-cam.... All work better on Android imo
Well Snapdragon has been on 4nm node for 3 generations at this point. I guess we will see a bigger jump in performance with their next chip if they finally go 3nm.
Apple bought up all the TSMC 3nm capacity and Samsung was producing less than 50% usable chips per wafer, making it prohibitively expensive to use their 3nm process. Next year they have 3nm availability. If Qualcomm is twice as fast as Apple next year, people who are IPhone users will still buy IPhones.
What am I gunna do on my iPhone that needs that much power emulation is a mission on here all I’m Gunn a need is that power for the calculator app bruh
Fantastic video chap! I'm just now being aware by these great gaming phones! First is was the redmagic9, then it's the rog8 pro and now this! The iq. So many phones to choose from. Cell phones have come a long way but, I'm not really a phone gamer. I still think phones are behind consoles and pc handheld. He'll, I still put the switch above any smart phone out there ever slightly. I may get me one of these gaming phones just to have one and see how I like them. The redmagic9 has 24 gigs of ram and 1tb. Now that's crazy. Still though, it sounds good on paper but how does those specs compare to consoles and pc handheld in the real world. I do like the designs on the gaming phones, they're next level. Thing is, I just bought a A24 ultra and that phone is a beast. So where do I go from here with these gaming phones if I have a S24ultra already? Lastly, the camera on this phone is a beast. Great review. Which phone is the best? IQ? Redmagic9? Or Rog8 pro? Help a brother out in choosing. Peace
I currently have a Samsung fold 4, I don't think I can ever go back to a non-foldable phone but also there is nothing worth upgrading to right now IMO. The honor magic V2 would be my ideal choice but it's not supported in UK. The One Plus fold looks very nice but doesn't have pen support. Ideally i'd want a foldable with the honor magic v2 dimensions but with samsungs hidden selfie camera on the unfolded display and stylus support, also, a built in stylus instead of an external stylus would be awesome.
I don't want to inflate you ego BUT you are my FAVOURITE UA-cam personality ever! I don't have much interest in any of these products but the video quality is INSANE, and you make EVERYTHING INTERESTING! Its a natural talent and you do it really well! We need people like you as teachers in school. The ability to keep people interested in what you are sharing with us is really really well done! Oh f it, I'll hit subscribe lol! Thank you for these videos man you are cool af!!!
@@PSy84 its only an issue on certain devices that "optimize" system battery so thats why real time inbox is "bad". on flagship devices these days it shouldnt be a problem tho
The reason Android hasn't gotten these "AAA" games and that they have less optimized games is primarily for three reasons. #1, Apple makes it very easy for developers to optimize for iOS and provides top tier dev tools. Up until just a few short years ago, Android development was primarily done through a plugin to Eclipse and didn't even have a proper IDE. #2, people with iPhones tend to spend money more liberally than people with Androids primarily because all iPhones (other than SE) tend to be rather expensive and people need money to buy them or live in a wealthy country where financing through a carrier is easy. #3, All modern iPhones are pretty powerful, whereas Android is on a very wide range of hardware from crappy bargain bin hardware to flagship really nice phones like the S23 and such. This means that devs know their game has a good chance of running really well on all phones downloading it and there isn't a "Your game sucks" because their phone is a piece of junk.
"Up until just a few years" is a wild exaggeration when Android Studio got released in 2014, almost a decade ago. Also about the hardware one, you don't have to optimize it to all phones. You could even just make it only installable on flagships from Samsung, Google, Xiamoi etc. and optimize it for them (same way as Fortnite).
the claims about iphone 15pro models getting option to run games like resident evil village that arent meant for mobile could tilt the gaming community towards iphone by a little bit more but it would still be insignificant
I think the reason android phones especially cheap phones want to be powerful because . Vivo and iqoo are some what popular in india and many indians prefer gaming on there phone.
I think a more productive comparison would be a phone with an 8 gen 1 vs gen 3 or even a 888 vs gen 3 as that's ehat people would be upgrading from. It would be nice to know how different a phone feels in between upgrades befor you make the upgrade.
Very nice THANK YOU. Impressive photos when compared with 15pm…I am looking at buy the one plus 12 because of its larger screen. Hope photos are as good as
This phone are quite affordable here in SEA region, for example this phone got official launch today in my country and for 16GB+512GB model price for $730 and with preorder freebies worth $160
Second comment.. I keep looking at phones but the Nothing Phone 1 seems to have ticked every box for me at the moment. I know the internal camera app is a bit pants, but for normal selfies and portrait images I think its fine once edited. To get the best from the camera in the Nothing Phone 1 I am using 'Open Camera' which is so good it shouldn't be free! I have maximized the selfie camera with it and ALL of my UA-cam videos are made using the selfie camera. After watching one of your other videos yesterday I am tempted to try recording in 4K using the main camera - but it is nice seeing where I am ''in view'' while recording the videos. What else? I have created and released music using the NP1 and FL Studio mobile app, and more recently I have been filming mini-vlog videos for studios while I'm out in Atlanta, and doing all the editing with CapCut and the NP1. The only thing I would probably change is the 8GB up to the 12GB model for the editing side of things, but in honesty it is a great piece of tech and it costs hardly anything. I've had friends say they want to buy an NP2 but after playing with mine they are sold! I like your Zenphone 10 review and it is tempting with the better processor and smaller size, but I've also toyed with the idea of an S22/S23 to save carrying the Beam with my XReal glasses. You influenced me to spend money haha! But I love the XReal glasses they are insanely good. Back to phones... I'm not sure what a good upgrade phone for me would be - asthetics plays a role, but I wont ever go back to Apple because the price is ridiculous and whenever an iPhone user looks at my phone they lose their mind. They have never seen a mobile phone 'reverse charge' their expensive ting before.. I visited the store in Soho before flying to Atlanta and nearly EVERYTHING was sold out! Carl Pei is a genius.
I am going to upgrade from a Samsung Note 10+ to the Samsung S24 Ultra! So I should see some serious improvements. I have been waiting for a form factor change, but now I am having problems charging my Note so it is time to bite the bullet!
Reminder: Total Antutu and GeekBench GPU are NOT cross platform comparable, as they test different things. The ones that kinda count as cross platform comparable are GeekBench CPU and 3DMark.
Honkai is amazingly optimized. Played it on my Oppo Find X5 Pro (SD8Gen1) and it was running 60FPS all the time, with all graphics MAX although the temperatures were really high (above 45°C), and it was using between 50 to 90% of the GPU so unfortunately I had to uninstall it, because it was also sucking the soul out of my battery even if it was running great 😂
"sucking the soul out of my battery" hahahah so funny. the gen1 is known for overheating although it performs very well. i was gonna get the realme gt 2 pro because of its new processor, great cameras, and display but i changed my mind after discovering that its processor overheats. it was an unfortunate outcome but im very glad i dint get it because there is now the realme gt5 pro which is far far better and cheap to buy. i suggest you get get its if you after a budget flagship phone.
@@CharlesOkwara I'm not after any device for the next 3-4 years. Spent a lot of money on this device because I got it at release which I own for almost 2 years already because that's what was the best for me back then. Although the heating issues with very demanding games, like Genshin of Honkai (which I can play on my laptop), this phone runs smooth like brand new and always gets between 6 and 8h of screen on time (with 120Hz always enabled) if I'm not playing top AAA games. So for me no other phone for a long time, and the design is beautiful also, it doesn't gets left behind, if anything it will start to feel timeless. Cameras still going very strong which I use for editing videos and photos with family, and the 50W wireless charging compensates many times when needed.
About all complex game can run on nearly 60fps, what is playable, any extra 20% just make it smoother, but have nothing to do with the "playable" thing, because it was already over the playable treshold.
I literally came across mobile gaming when i sold my ps4 before being able to get a hand on PS5 when the shortage was around. I was blown away. I ended up switching to samsung for serious mobile gaming, now have the Zflip 5 and damn, its so much better in my preference vs console. Theres a lot more games, has its own wifi signal, can play xbox gamepass, controller support and just more convenient. It runs better also. I also bought a hdmi casting device if i ever want the console experience aswell. Android has an endless amount of 3rd party support. Flagahips are powerful af, a smaller gaming pc right on palm your hands and on the go. 😅👌
@@nerrixj.l.6102 lol anybody that thinks that anyone can even come close to Fold is delusional, Fold is an epitome of software optimization for a folding device, OP is 🗑️
My next phone was going to be the one plus open but now im thinking I'll shop around and see what else i can get for my money, £1500 is my budget and hopefully I'll get one of the top ones for my money
I think I will stick with my trusty 8 gen 1 chip, it performs just fine in every game I play, and until we get console games on android I don't see why I would want to upgrade...
Gen 3 (& Gen 4 apparently got already leaked too) is more AI anyway but barely much AI available atm, the available AI tasks from a Pixel or SD Gen 2 can do it too just slower. still waiting for the announced zoomed out "image enhance/enlarger", magic eraser & magic editor counterpart since according to qualcomm its faster than every other AI chip on device, yet its apparently missing.
Hey.. You have some issues in your video.most of the time you mention IQOO 12 with SDG2 when instead iy should be SDG3. Please correct that.Looks very unprofessional....
You can't compare OpenCL/Vulkan scores with the Metal score in terms of numbers. The performance doesn't translate based on those numbers irrespective of the game. And just so you know ; all GPU dependent apps on the iPhone are built for Metal as that's the only graphics protocol it supports. So Idk why you made it sound like some games on the iPhone don't support Metal and would run better if they did.
Isn't he referring to support for the latest Metal update? Not all games have been optimised for that, so expect games to improve gradually on iOS. The real take is that software matters so if Metal. Vulcan then GPU benchmarks do not tell the whole story, which is obvious if you have seen many gaming reviews.
while yeah, kinda true, youre comparing phone 2-3x the price with still mobile games against portable home console hybrid device running actual console quality games, and I know it struggles with many of them, but you have to make apples to apples comparison to get some actual result worth looking into. (btw I really hope Switch 2 is big improvement tech-wise)
@@ondrejeder8816 True its kinda not fair comparison but the fact that Switch is a Gaming console who's primary role is to play games cant do that properly. Meanwhile we have phones who have completely different priorities, run AAA console games like Resident evil village. Yes its expensive but everyone has a phone and buying so weak consoles make no sense anymore. I bet 300$ phone can run Zelda and mario no problem just look how Genshin impact looks on mobile. Compared to new Pokemon🤮. I hope Switch 2 makes big steps to make sense buying it.
@@Thetechchap I understand the global Iqoo 12 release is after the S24, as Samsung gets first dibs on releasing in the West. It is China only, like the VIVO X100 Pro and Xiaomi 14 Pro.
@@andyH_Englandwhat do you mean by global launch ? Here in my country (SEA region) has already got an official launch for this phone today, and we can start to preorder this phone next week
It is because that is what you expect with AAA games. Your gaming laptop will die after an hour with a battery that is 10X larger. So, of course, creators realise that most people have common sense and know you must use a power source. In due course, they will improve and be optimised, but you have to be realistic.
It's annoying that geekbench is always changing their versions. I can't relate to 2200 single core I got used to geekbench 5 and that sounds slow now...
Maybe He mean First smartphone equipped with SD 8 Gen 3 for Global market While Xiaomi 14 series is exclusively in China. I don't know when this phone wil debut globally I hope this Idea is right 😅
Charging speed comparison: iQOO 9 Pro = 18 minutes iQOO 11 Pro = 12 minutes (200 Watt charger) iQOO 12 = 28 minutes I don't understand what kind of upgrade is this
Samsung hopefully will give the UK market this chip in their S24 release. Maybe with a custome one if they do. If they go back to the Exynos chip, it will be the S23 ultra for another year (yes, Samsung fanboy here😅)
We've improved enough in multi and gpu. The biggest bottleneck in gaming has always been single core. The cpu literally cannot keep up with the gpu so having a 60% gpu increase isn't going to do anything. 12% increase in single core is really not much of an upgrade
As someone who still uses an iPhone 8 Plus daily, i think any new iPhone would suit me unless it’s a mini since my screen time I’d say is above average, so perhaps an iPhone 15 Plus, still unsure though 🤷♂️
I would suggest that every number you tell in the video you would flash the numer on the screen. Sometimes hard to understand and have to rewatch it multiple times and still dont get it
The custom 8 Gen 2 for Galaxy was basically an overclocked version, with perhaps a 5-8% boost over the base 8G2. I'm more interested to see how Samsung utilise the AI performance
my eye to be honest is just on a used s23. i fell into the Samsung ecosystem and i think it's pretty nice. i like the features that we get a couple years before stock android and ios get them.
The Processor here isn't running at it's full potential tbh Idk why this happens with IQOO but it's geekbench scores are lower than the Xiaomi 14 Pro which is able to Consistently score more than the iPhone 15PM in Multi core and has a stability of 80% in 3D mark
The main question is - Does it shift colours at an angle? I have made a terrible mistake buying the Oneplus 11, just to have horrendous colour reproduction due to immense shift at even the slightest angle.
@@mit6089 Unfortunately, most upgrades nowadays are miniscule, so I know everything else will be spot on. However, the color shifts on a small tilt, even to the point where there's a discernable colour mismatch between the top and the bottom of the phone on a straight angle. Most people don't see it, I do.
9:25 what do you mean ?? Can iqoo 12 can record in game + streaming on youtube + playing customs screams simoultaneosly with on youtube so it can handle these things easily and it will tie with iphone really ? Did you have test with that ??
Probably the best value flagship atm. Great camera, great performance, great screen and great battery. Unless you need that specific features, you're not missing out on anything for this price. Definitely the best value flagship under $700 converted.
I do not recommend updating phones until after four years to see a real change in the processors. Now I have a phone from 2021. I will change it in 2025.
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Hey Chaps! What phone will you upgrade to next?
(at 5:39, the text label should be iQOO 12)
Iphone 69
im upgreading to the Vivo X80 from my old oneplus nord 2 what do you think. Main raeson cameras
OnePlus 12 hopefully.
Cooling system
I'm disappointed with both eco systems lately, I'll go offline with a dumb phone to be honest
Seems that the video has a few errors
3:18 shows both phones having SD8G2 when the 12 is supposed to have SD8G33
5:39 the scores are in millions and not thousands, also the label for the iQOO is also wrong once again
Otherwise love the content Tom and keep the videos coming!
Apologies - had to rush this one a little bit!
Haha
I'm still on an S22 Ultra so I'm on the first 8 Gen. I think I'll wait yet another year before upgrading. Battery life was bad for a while, but after nearly 2 years of updates including the recent Android 14 update, performance and battery have been solid. Battery life might even be better
Top android phones actually get better with the updates
I have s22 ultra.. my battery is being better and no heating now. How do they do that 😮🎉
I got a s10+ and phone still does everything just fine.
Battery lasts all day with moderate use.
S10+ is the 1080 ti of phones .
@@aharonxavier4282Performance throttling, they simply just reconfigure the scheduler to run at lower clocks
The 8Gen1 is fabricated using Samsung process node so it kinda sucks
@@aharonxavier4282new chips have different processing methods so older os on new chips could cause unnecessary steps in a process which wastes battery and performance speed. As they update they make the os perfectly align with the processing steps of the chip so its as effective as possible
Just a heads up, the creator of Antutu posted on Reddit that the scores on iOS cant be directly compared to the scores on Android because apoarently they test differently.
same goes for geekbench gpu. Only geekbench cpu and 3dmark gpu tests are compareable.
The fact that the iQOO trades blows with the iPhone which costs twice as much is a clear win for the iQOO in my opinion
You forgot the F in FIRST Tom 😂
Just checking if you’re paying attention 😂
@@Thetechchap 😂😂😂
F for fail 😅
@@bigdhav😂🤣
I don't understand who these gaming phones are for ? If you can afford a flagship phone with top specs you can afford a better and more enjoyable device like a playstation or PC?
You can’t play a pc/playstation on the bus/train to work or on your lunch break
@@AndrewHealey but there's better alternatives to mobile gaming , like a steam deck which is better and less expensive and has more games available?
@@Rampage1Rules people always have a phone with them so it's the most convenient thing to use
There are many fps games,especially games like PUBG, Call of Duty and the convenience of such a powerful device is unparalleled. Also, the battery life is usually excellent for the performance they deliver…
We gotta agree gaming itself is dying, look over the years, pubg Minecraft genshin call of duty mobile, but nowadays it’s honkai star rail only which is turnover of genshin player at most.
You wrote "SDGG2" in both iQOO 12 & 12 at around 4:02 :P
Amazed at how good the photos looked on the iQOO.... I have both the iPhone 15 Pro Max and the Galaxy S23 Ultra, and while I prefer the S23 as a phone overall, the iPhone takes the better pictures. When looking at the pictures on a big, hi-res screen the Samsung may have the bolder colours, but the pictures look oversharpened and noisy while the iPhone just "gets" textures much better, the pics seem more like "real life". That oversharpening is something I did not notice on the iQOO, the pictures looked very beautifully rendered, and in the samples provided I preferred them over the iPhone pictures because of their warmer colours (the iPhone might do that too with a different colour profile though, possibly). Still.... Amazing.
How do you have both phones...they are so expensive...I am still on the s8...I know I am a stranger..but I am asking for your previous phone...
@@theeverydayexplorer3 Well, it's a bit of a hobby, lol. I don't have a previous phone, I always sell the previous model when I buy the new one, they're relatively affordable that way. The only phone I ever kept were a Windows phone (Lumia 930) and the Nothing Phone (1), because I wanted to keep a Windows phone around and the Nothing Phone is just gorgeous 😅
I think the difference is iphone likes to take photos true to color…which sucks cause color in real life isnt so vibrant. Android phones seem to go the direction of touching up photos with some vibrancy which to our eyes on a still picture looks subjectively better.
Why do you prefer your S23 and no the 15 PM?
@@RD014. saving files directly from Facebook to dropbox, thee chrome browser and Gboard just work better on Android, notifications are MUCH better, multi tasking, the file sharing menu, gmail, and especially UA-cam.... All work better on Android imo
I'm shocked by the camera performance, they are so different like 2 different scenarios
Wash your eyes, then watch it again cuz really they look very similar
I agree with OP here, and for some odd reason I preferred the iqoo images in every single shot!!!
@@wtfamIdoingwithmylife572you need to wash your eyes or your screen buddy, they don’t look similar at all
@@sentinel1031iphone looked more gray tho, more like a death scene in movie
@@wtfamIdoingwithmylife572you went fully blind I guess
Well Snapdragon has been on 4nm node for 3 generations at this point. I guess we will see a bigger jump in performance with their next chip if they finally go 3nm.
Apple bought up all the TSMC 3nm capacity and Samsung was producing less than 50% usable chips per wafer, making it prohibitively expensive to use their 3nm process. Next year they have 3nm availability. If Qualcomm is twice as fast as Apple next year, people who are IPhone users will still buy IPhones.
@@rickjason215 is not about being faster is just apple can pay more than qualcomm. so the capacity goes to the highest bidder
@lucaskp16 Qualcomm design was so good that it outproduces Apple, even at 4nm. If they both are competing equally it should be interesting.
What am I gunna do on my iPhone that needs that much power emulation is a mission on here all I’m Gunn a need is that power for the calculator app bruh
intel is on 10 nm and can hit 6ghz and its way faster even if clocks are same as the phone.why cant 3nm hit that?
Iqoo 12's Camera > Iphone 15 PM's Camera, Wtf 💀
Fantastic video chap! I'm just now being aware by these great gaming phones! First is was the redmagic9, then it's the rog8 pro and now this! The iq. So many phones to choose from. Cell phones have come a long way but, I'm not really a phone gamer. I still think phones are behind consoles and pc handheld. He'll, I still put the switch above any smart phone out there ever slightly. I may get me one of these gaming phones just to have one and see how I like them. The redmagic9 has 24 gigs of ram and 1tb. Now that's crazy. Still though, it sounds good on paper but how does those specs compare to consoles and pc handheld in the real world. I do like the designs on the gaming phones, they're next level. Thing is, I just bought a A24 ultra and that phone is a beast. So where do I go from here with these gaming phones if I have a S24ultra already? Lastly, the camera on this phone is a beast. Great review.
Which phone is the best?
IQ?
Redmagic9? Or
Rog8 pro?
Help a brother out in choosing. Peace
I currently have a Samsung fold 4, I don't think I can ever go back to a non-foldable phone but also there is nothing worth upgrading to right now IMO. The honor magic V2 would be my ideal choice but it's not supported in UK. The One Plus fold looks very nice but doesn't have pen support. Ideally i'd want a foldable with the honor magic v2 dimensions but with samsungs hidden selfie camera on the unfolded display and stylus support, also, a built in stylus instead of an external stylus would be awesome.
I think youre fine with Fold 4, no need to update as soon as new shiny things come out, enjoy the good phone you have, and have a good day :-)
I'm going for Honor Magic V2 this Christmas 🎉🎉❤
The OnePlus Open actually has a support for oppo pen 🤗
Don't buy Chinese brands. Stick to Samsung
Stick to Fold 4 for now and upgrade next year to Fold 6. Fold 5 isn’t worth upgrading to from a Fold 4.
The ech Hap.
You orgot omething om! 😂❤
I don't want to inflate you ego BUT you are my FAVOURITE UA-cam personality ever!
I don't have much interest in any of these products but the video quality is INSANE, and you make EVERYTHING INTERESTING! Its a natural talent and you do it really well!
We need people like you as teachers in school. The ability to keep people interested in what you are sharing with us is really really well done! Oh f it, I'll hit subscribe lol!
Thank you for these videos man you are cool af!!!
the S24 Ultra will be one beast to look forward to
and waiting for app developer to support android also. Because gmail alone works better in iPhone like real time inbox and Gmail is from Google🤦🏻♂️
@@PSy84Actually All apps work good on Android, flagship devices
@@PSy84 its only an issue on certain devices that "optimize" system battery so thats why real time inbox is "bad". on flagship devices these days it shouldnt be a problem tho
@Temp-md7pn I'm sorry, You have a phone with really bad performance. I own S23U and iPhone 14 PM. It's just that iOS is a crap.
@Temp-md7pn LOL
I don't think so
The reason Android hasn't gotten these "AAA" games and that they have less optimized games is primarily for three reasons. #1, Apple makes it very easy for developers to optimize for iOS and provides top tier dev tools. Up until just a few short years ago, Android development was primarily done through a plugin to Eclipse and didn't even have a proper IDE. #2, people with iPhones tend to spend money more liberally than people with Androids primarily because all iPhones (other than SE) tend to be rather expensive and people need money to buy them or live in a wealthy country where financing through a carrier is easy. #3, All modern iPhones are pretty powerful, whereas Android is on a very wide range of hardware from crappy bargain bin hardware to flagship really nice phones like the S23 and such. This means that devs know their game has a good chance of running really well on all phones downloading it and there isn't a "Your game sucks" because their phone is a piece of junk.
"Up until just a few years" is a wild exaggeration when Android Studio got released in 2014, almost a decade ago.
Also about the hardware one, you don't have to optimize it to all phones. You could even just make it only installable on flagships from Samsung, Google, Xiamoi etc. and optimize it for them (same way as Fortnite).
as a flagship samsung owner, that's sadly the objective truth.
Samsung s24 ultra comes AAA gaming certification
the claims about iphone 15pro models getting option to run games like resident evil village that arent meant for mobile could tilt the gaming community towards iphone by a little bit more but it would still be insignificant
I think the reason android phones especially cheap phones want to be powerful because . Vivo and iqoo are some what popular in india and many indians prefer gaming on there phone.
I think a more productive comparison would be a phone with an 8 gen 1 vs gen 3 or even a 888 vs gen 3 as that's ehat people would be upgrading from. It would be nice to know how different a phone feels in between upgrades befor you make the upgrade.
Agree
He didnt even open Warzone haha
wow i didn't realize the new snapdragon was that big of a jump, coming from a gen 1 google tensor this should be a huge upgrade.
Very nice THANK YOU. Impressive photos when compared with 15pm…I am looking at buy the one plus 12 because of its larger screen. Hope photos are as good as
This phone are quite affordable here in SEA region, for example this phone got official launch today in my country and for 16GB+512GB model price for $730 and with preorder freebies worth $160
I think there is an error in the name tags of the phones during comparison.
Second comment..
I keep looking at phones but the Nothing Phone 1 seems to have ticked every box for me at the moment. I know the internal camera app is a bit pants, but for normal selfies and portrait images I think its fine once edited.
To get the best from the camera in the Nothing Phone 1 I am using 'Open Camera' which is so good it shouldn't be free!
I have maximized the selfie camera with it and ALL of my UA-cam videos are made using the selfie camera. After watching one of your other videos yesterday I am tempted to try recording in 4K using the main camera - but it is nice seeing where I am ''in view'' while recording the videos.
What else? I have created and released music using the NP1 and FL Studio mobile app, and more recently I have been filming mini-vlog videos for studios while I'm out in Atlanta, and doing all the editing with CapCut and the NP1.
The only thing I would probably change is the 8GB up to the 12GB model for the editing side of things, but in honesty it is a great piece of tech and it costs hardly anything.
I've had friends say they want to buy an NP2 but after playing with mine they are sold! I like your Zenphone 10 review and it is tempting with the better processor and smaller size, but I've also toyed with the idea of an S22/S23 to save carrying the Beam with my XReal glasses. You influenced me to spend money haha! But I love the XReal glasses they are insanely good.
Back to phones... I'm not sure what a good upgrade phone for me would be - asthetics plays a role, but I wont ever go back to Apple because the price is ridiculous and whenever an iPhone user looks at my phone they lose their mind.
They have never seen a mobile phone 'reverse charge' their expensive ting before.. I visited the store in Soho before flying to Atlanta and nearly EVERYTHING was sold out!
Carl Pei is a genius.
Always enjoy your content. Thank you.
I am going to upgrade from a Samsung Note 10+ to the Samsung S24 Ultra! So I should see some serious improvements. I have been waiting for a form factor change, but now I am having problems charging my Note so it is time to bite the bullet!
Going from a N20U and am pretty excited
@@brent3522meanwhile im going from a gallaxy a70
Reminder: Total Antutu and GeekBench GPU are NOT cross platform comparable, as they test different things. The ones that kinda count as cross platform comparable are GeekBench CPU and 3DMark.
Geekbench CPU and 3DMark are fully cross platform. The same workload is executed with the same API. It’s 1:1 comparison
Cmon my old iPhone 14Promax scores 2660 single and 7021multicore in geek bench 6,
It means that newest sd8 gen 3 can’t beat my old iPhone..
@@krkikrki9329 Copium
@@TheRealNightShotshure
@@krkikrki9329 “shure” bro skipped brain class AND English class 😂
Hopefully the processor allows for better video codecs on the phones, or the ability to record 4:2:2 to compete w the iPhones in that regard
Is it also 10bit?
@@Greatbylook yes, also it shoots in their new log profile. iPhone 15 pros video is ridiculously good
Hey thought id let you know that at 5:36 you were off by a factor of 10. Should be 1.4 million and 2 million on that Antutu score
Impressive!! This is the real flagship killer.
Bro how did you play ps4 games on phone?
Please tell me the emulator or did you do the remote play?
10:26 Xiaomi already has phones with the gen 3 chip, in fact they're the first phone to release with the gen 3 chips.
Hey brother...love your videos.....can you suggest me iqoo 12 or iphone 13 pro max....which one is better for gaming and day to day use
Honkai is amazingly optimized. Played it on my Oppo Find X5 Pro (SD8Gen1) and it was running 60FPS all the time, with all graphics MAX although the temperatures were really high (above 45°C), and it was using between 50 to 90% of the GPU so unfortunately I had to uninstall it, because it was also sucking the soul out of my battery even if it was running great 😂
"sucking the soul out of my battery" hahahah so funny. the gen1 is known for overheating although it performs very well.
i was gonna get the realme gt 2 pro because of its new processor, great cameras, and display but i changed my mind after discovering that its processor overheats. it was an unfortunate outcome but im very glad i dint get it because there is now the realme gt5 pro which is far far better and cheap to buy. i suggest you get get its if you after a budget flagship phone.
@@CharlesOkwara I'm not after any device for the next 3-4 years. Spent a lot of money on this device because I got it at release which I own for almost 2 years already because that's what was the best for me back then. Although the heating issues with very demanding games, like Genshin of Honkai (which I can play on my laptop), this phone runs smooth like brand new and always gets between 6 and 8h of screen on time (with 120Hz always enabled) if I'm not playing top AAA games. So for me no other phone for a long time, and the design is beautiful also, it doesn't gets left behind, if anything it will start to feel timeless. Cameras still going very strong which I use for editing videos and photos with family, and the 50W wireless charging compensates many times when needed.
@@PetreMihai94call it star rail, honkai name usually refers to honkai impact 3rd
Dont play fortnite, on your phone
I know you are afraid of lawsuits , but performance is all about Emulation, that 20% more FPS can make a game playable
About all complex game can run on nearly 60fps, what is playable, any extra 20% just make it smoother, but have nothing to do with the "playable" thing, because it was already over the playable treshold.
@@TamasKiss-yk4styour ignorance can be cured by watching switch or windows emulation. Go do it.
that 66.5% stability score makes this phone useless for gaming. shits gonna thermal throttle so hard 30 minutes into games.
@sc9433 Still its lowest loop score was on par with a17 pro's highest, so its still a beast.
Thought I'd quickly note that you state "SD8G2" underneath the iQOO 12 for the numerous side by side benchmark tests ...
Gonna enjoy my S23 Ultra for more 1 year and skip this Gen 3. I see no good reason to upgrade at all.
where did you got it from?
Thanks for the video tho
W content 🙌🏻🔥🔥🔥
I literally came across mobile gaming when i sold my ps4 before being able to get a hand on PS5 when the shortage was around.
I was blown away. I ended up switching to samsung for serious mobile gaming, now have the Zflip 5 and damn, its so much better in my preference vs console. Theres a lot more games, has its own wifi signal, can play xbox gamepass, controller support and just more convenient. It runs better also. I also bought a hdmi casting device if i ever want the console experience aswell. Android has an endless amount of 3rd party support. Flagahips are powerful af, a smaller gaming pc right on palm your hands and on the go. 😅👌
How did you get that snapdragon 8 gen 3 plate? was it a media only thing given in person?
Great vid.👍
The Z Fold 6 is going to be the most impressive and most improved device this year. I am excited for that device in particular.
Not really, they are just barely catching up to oneplus a year late
@@tech4days162 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LoL... Typical samsung fan.
@@nerrixj.l.6102 lol anybody that thinks that anyone can even come close to Fold is delusional, Fold is an epitome of software optimization for a folding device, OP is 🗑️
@@stx7389okay, care to explain?
My next phone was going to be the one plus open but now im thinking I'll shop around and see what else i can get for my money, £1500 is my budget and hopefully I'll get one of the top ones for my money
I think I will stick with my trusty 8 gen 1 chip, it performs just fine in every game I play, and until we get console games on android I don't see why I would want to upgrade...
Gen 3 (& Gen 4 apparently got already leaked too) is more AI anyway but barely much AI available atm, the available AI tasks from a Pixel or SD Gen 2 can do it too just slower. still waiting for the announced zoomed out "image enhance/enlarger", magic eraser & magic editor counterpart since according to qualcomm its faster than every other AI chip on device, yet its apparently missing.
@@Vss077gen 4 leap will be big
Hey.. You have some issues in your video.most of the time you mention IQOO 12 with SDG2 when instead iy should be SDG3. Please correct that.Looks very unprofessional....
Subscribing... Good points highlighted
FYI, this brand is popular in India. And yes Indonesia (since last year)
what's the brand of Gaming Controller you are using in this video, please
I need to buy one like it
You can't compare OpenCL/Vulkan scores with the Metal score in terms of numbers. The performance doesn't translate based on those numbers irrespective of the game. And just so you know ; all GPU dependent apps on the iPhone are built for Metal as that's the only graphics protocol it supports. So Idk why you made it sound like some games on the iPhone don't support Metal and would run better if they did.
Isn't he referring to support for the latest Metal update? Not all games have been optimised for that, so expect games to improve gradually on iOS. The real take is that software matters so if Metal. Vulcan then GPU benchmarks do not tell the whole story, which is obvious if you have seen many gaming reviews.
"Doesn't perform that well"
Fps 70- 105
Meanwhile Nintendo Switch actual console struggling with 25fps😅😅
while yeah, kinda true, youre comparing phone 2-3x the price with still mobile games against portable home console hybrid device running actual console quality games, and I know it struggles with many of them, but you have to make apples to apples comparison to get some actual result worth looking into.
(btw I really hope Switch 2 is big improvement tech-wise)
@@ondrejeder8816 True its kinda not fair comparison but the fact that Switch is a Gaming console who's primary role is to play games cant do that properly. Meanwhile we have phones who have completely different priorities, run AAA console games like Resident evil village. Yes its expensive but everyone has a phone and buying so weak consoles make no sense anymore. I bet 300$ phone can run Zelda and mario no problem just look how Genshin impact looks on mobile. Compared to new Pokemon🤮. I hope Switch 2 makes big steps to make sense buying it.
@@elpeacecarterswitch players are ok with 540p and 20-30 fps. Otherwise it woudnt be the third best selling console of all time.
@@bulletpunch9317ok with 540p 30 fps is pathetic ilike a boomer, at least 900p 50 fps
@@INTJ791 idk man i think switch gamers are mostly kids/teens or 20 somethings.
Just thought I'd mention , the antutu scores are in the millions thesedays, not in the thousands like mentioned.
Wasn't it Xiaomi that got the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 first ?
I think so.
It launched about 2 weeks sooner yes, but this is the first phone in western countries we’ve been able to test
@@Thetechchap Nice ♥️👍
@@Thetechchap I understand the global Iqoo 12 release is after the S24, as Samsung gets first dibs on releasing in the West. It is China only, like the VIVO X100 Pro and Xiaomi 14 Pro.
@@andyH_Englandwhat do you mean by global launch ? Here in my country (SEA region) has already got an official launch for this phone today, and we can start to preorder this phone next week
IQOO12 is better or red magic 8 pro ??
Where did you buy the phone from please ?
I will be buying an S24 Ultra for sure as soon as it becomes available.
I would wait to see what it's reviews are like (in balance) first. I believe it will be a fantastic device.
The antutu website states that , ios score and Android scores are not comparable 😅..i guess geek score is cross platform and not antutu
Another day of watching phones i cant afford😁
Me too🥲
140 thousand and 200 thousand?😂 it 1.4 million and 2 million😂
How's the SAR value on this model and other new phones??
Tom, can you influence Iqoo to release this phone in the UK?
Where do you find the BMW edition to buy? Can't find it anywhere.
what about the power efficiency of the sd 8 gen 3 compared to the sd 8 gen 2 and A17 pro
ahh yes IRST snapdragon 8 gen 3
😅
65-66% stability performance score is such a shame. the ROG7 was 99.5%.
Iqoo shows aggressive throttling and bad thermal
I am expecting s24 ultra will be the best battery 🔋 backup phone ever, may be
S23 ultra still beat the new iPhone 15 Pro Max tho
It certainly could be.
Why is no UA-camr mentioning that console games on iPhone drain the battery in 40 odd minutes?
Because that's a downside and apple can't have those.. damn media bias
It is because that is what you expect with AAA games. Your gaming laptop will die after an hour with a battery that is 10X larger. So, of course, creators realise that most people have common sense and know you must use a power source. In due course, they will improve and be optimised, but you have to be realistic.
@@andyH_England Can't they still state that in the video though?
Which game and settings? You saw in which video?
It does not drain like that lol. Several have done tests, look up mrmacright
8:12 IQOO 12 literally achieved video game graphics
Yes I'm from india! And well im very much interested in android gaming phone! If i see one i click!
That lag at 2:18 though 😂 No thanks, I think I will stick with Samsung this year.
@Te_legrammeThe_Tech_Chap-hg4fg niceeeeee
Front cam records in 1080p in the year 2023. Come on!!!
The Front cam is where they cut costs for sure. Utter rubbish.
It's annoying that geekbench is always changing their versions. I can't relate to 2200 single core I got used to geekbench 5 and that sounds slow now...
Got the oneplus open with 16gb ram 512 storage and Snapdragon 8 gen 2 should I upgrade to let's say OnePlus 12
IQ never heard of it want one.😮
Maybe He mean First smartphone equipped with SD 8 Gen 3 for Global market
While Xiaomi 14 series is exclusively in China. I don't know when this phone wil debut globally
I hope this Idea is right 😅
Hey Tom at 3:47 it says 8G2 on both phones
But we all know what's meant I guess ;)
Is that 146K or 1.46M in Antutu? Please clarify
Charging speed comparison:
iQOO 9 Pro = 18 minutes
iQOO 11 Pro = 12 minutes (200 Watt charger)
iQOO 12 = 28 minutes
I don't understand what kind of upgrade is this
You compare pro with standard, and flagship chip is expensive
I expected the graphics performance to be better but not by that much damn!!
Samsung hopefully will give the UK market this chip in their S24 release. Maybe with a custome one if they do. If they go back to the Exynos chip, it will be the S23 ultra for another year (yes, Samsung fanboy here😅)
We've improved enough in multi and gpu. The biggest bottleneck in gaming has always been single core. The cpu literally cannot keep up with the gpu so having a 60% gpu increase isn't going to do anything. 12% increase in single core is really not much of an upgrade
Bro can you please give your review about the Lenovo Legion Go handheld
As someone who still uses an iPhone 8 Plus daily, i think any new iPhone would suit me unless it’s a mini since my screen time I’d say is above average, so perhaps an iPhone 15 Plus, still unsure though 🤷♂️
I have no monies@provisionalhypothesis 💀
I would suggest that every number you tell in the video you would flash the numer on the screen. Sometimes hard to understand and have to rewatch it multiple times and still dont get it
It's getting to the point of "how much faster can it actually get?"
What will you really need 3 million antutu score for anyway?
Tom, how much of a difference are you expecting in performance, battery and efficiency for the 24 series compared to the IQOO? Prediction? :)
The custom 8 Gen 2 for Galaxy was basically an overclocked version, with perhaps a 5-8% boost over the base 8G2. I'm more interested to see how Samsung utilise the AI performance
Please what game were playing at the beginning of your video😮
There is another error in the antutu section, both phones have a “SD8G2”…
my eye to be honest is just on a used s23. i fell into the Samsung ecosystem and i think it's pretty nice. i like the features that we get a couple years before stock android and ios get them.
i think Google integration is pretty good too
or was it the other way around?
The Processor here isn't running at it's full potential tbh
Idk why this happens with IQOO but it's geekbench scores are lower than the Xiaomi 14 Pro which is able to Consistently score more than the iPhone 15PM in Multi core and has a stability of 80% in 3D mark
Apple got AAA games, Android got Emulators. *Cough* *Cough* Yuzu Android *Cough* *cough* 😂
Yeah actual corpo shilling cucks willing to buy the same game just to play it on an iphone
Didnt know people played their mobile games upside down when i looked at that thumbnail
The main question is - Does it shift colours at an angle? I have made a terrible mistake buying the Oneplus 11, just to have horrendous colour reproduction due to immense shift at even the slightest angle.
Jesus is that all you concerned of
I've got one and the display imo is very impressive , and has no colour shift . And why would you be looking at your phone at an angle anyway ?
@@mit6089 Unfortunately, most upgrades nowadays are miniscule, so I know everything else will be spot on. However, the color shifts on a small tilt, even to the point where there's a discernable colour mismatch between the top and the bottom of the phone on a straight angle. Most people don't see it, I do.
Where do I get my hands on a Snapdragon encased in plexiglass?
9:25 what do you mean ?? Can iqoo 12 can record in game + streaming on youtube + playing customs screams simoultaneosly with on youtube so it can handle these things easily and it will tie with iphone really ?
Did you have test with that ??
Probably the best value flagship atm. Great camera, great performance, great screen and great battery. Unless you need that specific features, you're not missing out on anything for this price. Definitely the best value flagship under $700 converted.
So now this can get the title of 'World's fastest smartphone'.
Where to order that phone?
I do not recommend updating phones until after four years to see a real change in the processors. Now I have a phone from 2021. I will change it in 2025.
Why 4? Why not 5 or 6 or even beyond that.
@@Artemis-v8i
Technology is rapidly developing and there are many changes in it. I expect that in the future, people will turn to foldable phones
3:22 screen freaking out