Thank you so much for reviewing this song. I particularly enjoyed your commentary at the beginning about Bill. You did a great job, great research once again. Regarding the lyrics. I'm not sure it's about Bill, but it's dedicated to him. I love the first couple of verses and the way Kate phrases them. I've always thought it was about talented people who were taken too early and how their achievements don't blow away even though her deep discussions with one of the band and the engineer ponder about this. I only heard this track a couple of months ago but it's definitely one of my favourites. This album is my favourite KB also. Can't wait for you to review Kate's musical version of Kill Bill: The Wedding List. ❤ The piano, bass and of course her wonderful vocals are remarkable.
Hmmm. Maybe you’re right I assumed since she said our “engineer had different ideas” that she was speaking about Bill in the first verse too. But he wasn’t one of her band although I assumed it meant that he was one of the band as in like “band of merry men”. It’s a tough one to interpret. But a beautiful song. That’s the great thing about Music is after it’s written it becomes the world’s to interpret. More questions to ask Kate. Haha! Looking forward to the wedding list!
@@mattking5936 the video was a live, cover version of let it be from the benefit ua-cam.com/video/0J1BvpWMvxM/v-deo.html. Here’s the full benefit concert.ua-cam.com/video/49gStAx8IRQ/v-deo.html
Such a gorgeous song. That long note! I always took the "Please don't bump me back there" part as the feeling of not wanting to go back after experiencing this "afterlife" - which seems represented by the blissful chorus. Artists leave their creations to the world and in a way maybe that makes leaving it easier? That's the feeling I get from this piece. You're right about the arrangement. It's just so beautifully textured.
Wow, everyone’s interpretation has been so lovely. And like it could absolutely be true. I love yours! But it just shows how underrated this song this is! Also, knowing more about the story, makes it even more emotional
I agree, with the "Please don't bump me back there" part I always mentally picture somebody being revived, thumped and shocked back into this world from some warm otherworldly place.
@@mpete42 that actually makes a lot more sense. I was thinking bump me like as like an airline bumping you to a different flight. So I was thinking about Buddy Holly and how some artists on that flight didn’t want to wait to fly later and others didn’t want to go at all.
A really interesting reaction. One of the reasons that Never Forever is such a varied album is that it was recorded in two halves. In late summer/Autumn 1979 Kate began recording at AIR studios in central London. She recorded the unrecorded songs used as part of her tour - Violin and Egypt as well as two new songs Blow Away and The Wedding List. Before this, she had been invited to Work on Peter Gabrial 3 (Melt) where she recorded backing vocals for a couple of tracks including Games without Frontiers (these became quite iconic and often misheard) which became Peter Gabrial's biggest hit. In October 1979 Kate recorded her Christmas special including the new recordings made for Never Forever and Peter Gabrial as a guest. According to a recent Australian documentary about the inventors of the Fairlight CMI it was just after this that one of the inventors brought some of the machines to England and specifically Peter Gabrial who was going to act as their agent in Europe. After seeing a demonstration Peter is reported to have said ' I think Kate will like this, she talked about having something like this' and he phoned her and she appeared a couple of days later and managed to borrow/ lease on to use on the second recording phase of the album. In January 1980 Kate was given the opportunity to record the rest of Never Forever at Abbey Road studios. Apparently, she was very excited at the prospect and got to use Studio 2 - The Beatles Studio. Kates's recording at Abbey Road became a little notorious for her attention to detail and her use of a 'revolving door' of musicians as she looked for exactly the right sound. The length of time recording would become a notable (and expensive) feature of her future recordings. She has said she loved the magic of Abbey Road and all her albums since have included some recording and/or mixing at the studio
I would be excited about recording at Abbey Road too! It’s kind of sad because I don’t think we’ll ever get that kind of attention to detail again in music the way people made music back then. There really has become a deeper and deeper disrespect of music with streaming and now ai. Even though you can still find great music still I really think it’s affecting the output of great music. Andh it’s easier to record music now they’re really was something special to this music from the 70s and 80s. And people like me reacting to it are really figuring that out! I didn’t know games without frontiers was Peter Gabriel’s biggest hit. I’m glad because I thought it with sledgehammer and I much prefer it that song! Thanks for the interesting information. I’m keeping a lot of it in mind for future videos.!
I should have said the biggest hit in the UK (sledgehammer also got to number 4 in 1986) On the first day of recording at Abbey Road Kate recorded a piano ballad to test the acoustics. She said she was 'knocked out' by the results. The song was Warm and Soothing which Kate described as autobiographical and would go on to be used as the B side for December will be Magic Again released November 1980. She has also told stories of after her sessions secretly climbing onto the beams of the roof space above Studio 1 from her studio to watch the orchestras playing below (it is where the music for Star Wars /Indiana Jones etc was recorded)
@@mjarve909 oh, you know I did a reaction to warm and soothing that I never posted. Because I thought it was a demo. From when I was doing the kb demo week. Sledgehammer was the only Peter Gabriel song I knew for a long time which is not my favorite. But he has a lot of really great songs. I learned later.
One of my all-time favourite songs - from such a brilliant and (often) underrated album. Thank you for your great video which I believe does the song and it's background justice.
Thank you that is so kind! I was hoping it was going to be enough. I really wanted to honor someone who must’ve been an impactful person but it wasn’t easy to find info.
Great reaction to a thought provoking song. N4E is one of my favourite albums and gives us a glimpse of the genius that follows in subsequent albums. Can't wait for your reaction to The Infant Kiss! Such a beautiful and haunting song, where Kate's vocal soars, but you'll need to do your research on the subject matter, or the lyrics will really spook you out! (And there's a french language version of The Infant Kiss too - "Un baiser d'enfant", which is even more beautiful)!
Lovely analysis from you. Such a gorgeous lush song. This album, and everything Kate has done in the future is so varied. You never know what you are going to get next. Not just album to album, but track to track. I love that. Thank You.
I’m so glad you liked it thank you. Yeah I really got lost in this song. The song itself only got better as I listen to it more especially with the backstory. It’s great Kate is so unpredictable and surprising.
Another fantastic video and deep dive into this wonderful track and the very sad story behind the title. The amount of effort you put into all of your content on this channel, is just brilliant. Long may it continue.
Outstanding research. I knew only vaguely about this incident, you fleshed it out. Well done. Kate of course is also the voice singing the background "Jeux sans frontières" on Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers". "Back in the day" we had to go find imported records to acquire this LP and the first several. Mine was a Canadian one. Seems EMI didn't think Kate would sell in the US, but *would* sell in Canada (?). Then again EMI also didn't think the Beatles would sell in the US and didn't think The Move would either, so they don't exactly have a sterling record of foresight, much to the detriment of the artists. "Kate is no pushover" -- ain't that the truth. That's why we respect her so much. Well that and the uncompromised music of course.
Regarding the non-availability of this album, her American label/distributor wanted Kate to tour America as a support act. She refused because if she did go on tour, she wanted it to be under her control and to be her vision (which ultimately resulted in her 1979 tour in the UK, Ireland and Europe). This led to a falling out with the American company which resulted in the non-release of "Never For Ever" in North America.
@@popcornphilosopher It was suggested at one point that there would be a third leg of the tour of life in the late summer 1979 (probably but not officially to North America - she had sold particularly well in Canada) but Kate was struggling a bit medically during the second (European) leg and some of the shows were reduced in length so any plans were postponed. Also, the planned (and announced at a London Fan event in 1990) 'Tour' (1992?) would likely have included North America.
@@popcornphilosopher In "America" but not in the US. As I recall my first three KB LPs were Canadian (on the Harvest label) and The Dreaming was a UK copy. You just had to pony up and pay more for an import, just because the record company wanted to be dicks. They finally gave in with Hounds of Love, whereupon they started releasing the back catalogue as if to say "oh look what we found, who knew".
@@notvalidcharacters you’re so right wow sometimes we here in the US sometimes forget that Canadians are Americans too! But that kind of dickishness from the labels is part of what brought down their industry lol
Thanks again for what has been a really intriguing and enjoyable video. Thanks for the research in advance of the video. There are performers who you can just listen to and not really think about what you are listening to or the what or why they wrote their music. Certainly you can do that with Kate Bush, but it is far better to listen to her music with a bit of background - because for some of her songs, the subject matter, cultural references and so on are essential to any real grasp of them and then in turn to fully "getting" the particular album. Your videos are very well done and your genuine interest in getting to grips with her music shines through every one. As to this song. I always begin with the thing that first struck me about it, which is its direct quotation of a famous Shakespeare line, from Othello: "Put out the light, then, put out the light" Othello is about to murder Desdemona. he says "put out the light" as in put out the candle in her room - which leaves them alone in the darkness. And then once more he says "then put out the light" this time meaning to put out the light of her life and breath as he stands in that now darkened room. Whereas the candle can be relit, Desdemona's light cannot. Her light is forever extinguished within the darkness that he himself had brought into the scene. This is one of the few songs from that early period that get so close to Kate Bush and her personal life. In the song she considers the afterlife from an odd angle of maybe a musician's music dies when they die... but since their music lives on and can have even greater influence than when they were alive, might that not suggest that something of them lives on? But also might they not also carry their music with them to the afterlife? She said of this song that death is the "ultimate unknown" [but at the same time] "it's our ultimate purpose. That's what we're here for. So I thought this thing about the death-fear. I like to think I'm coming to terms with it" Death as our ultimate purpose raises a lot of questions as to how to live our lives in preparation for it. Thanks again!
I try I thought maybe I didn’t do enough research. This was harder to find info on. But I appreciate that! maybe I’m being to hard on myself. I read Othello in high school and I don’t remember a lot of it so I didn’t even catch the reference. But I appreciate you giving me a refresher! That’s definitely true of musicians though and really most kinds of artists Tht’s one reason art is so appealing to me. An artist can be of service long after they die! I go back and forth about death. I mean it’s inevitable., I just hope it’s a nice one. No?
Bill is one of the last people to feature on Moments Of Pleasure also as she remembers past memories. I never really considered that this incident might have been the reason that she didn’t do live shows for all that time until Before The Dawn. Great job as always 👍
I think it would be fun to tour on that level but also so much responsiblity. I never really thought about that before hearing about this. But I’m glad you liked the video! Thank U!
Love this Channel! So cool learning how peter Gabriel and Kate met! At a benefit show for the dude that Blow Away is about??! Whaaat. The Plot thickens...
Never for Ever reminds the listener that nothing...good or bad...is forever. That's what I get from this CD. It is about transitions for me. There seems to be a theme. As far as touring, remember Kate never wanted to perform. She wanted to write. I don't think she liked the promotion part of her job. And once she finished a project, there was no incentive for her to relive those songs. Intensely creative, she moves to what is next and doesn't look behind her. The latest concert only happened because of her son according to articles. And I personally believe she wanted to see that Ninth Wave film from Hounds of Love finished. She started that project and it was scrapped. I believe she always felt it was unfinished and it bothered her. So they dedicated one whole act to that music in the live show. As I said, just a hunch on my part on the last concert and why she may have returned. She was completing her vision and finally could put the idea to rest.
Oh, interesting. I’ve been wondering what Never for Ever meant. Consciously three words instead of two so many of these interpretations from y’all are wildly different yet beautiful! I like yours because honestly it’s fitting to how I feel about everything now. It’s so true no feeling or event good or bad lasts forever. I love how that fits with the songs I’ve heard, and with this song specifically.
According to Bush, the title alluded to conflicting emotions, good and bad, which pass, as she stated: "we must tell our hearts that it is 'never for ever', and be happy that it's like that".
I'm really enjoying these deep dives and all the hard work you've done. I haven't heard some of the older songs in years. It makes me smile all over again. That note she holds at the end of this song and her outro. My GOD, golden! My suggestion for the upcoming song Infant Kiss is to also listen to the French version as well. I think another one of ur Kernels (fans of u Popcorn) mentioned it in the comments. It's hard picking the better version.
It’s speculated that Kate says Vicious twice as a nod to both Sid and Nancy. Never could figure out why Buddy Holly’s name is mentioned though since he died 20 years earlier than these other musicians.
I was just thinking it, the fact that they were all sort of passionate musicians, who died rather tragically young. But that’s really interesting about the double mention!
I think the vibe of Never Forever, which seems to be a mix of wonder, cynicism and disappointment, might have been affected by tbe shock of losing Bill. Delius also expressed a tragjc loss. It is a song that references a composer who dies from syphilis and required assistance from a young musician to complete his final compositions because he had lost all sense of pitch and tone and could no longer play tbe piano. love that there is a good-bye to Sid Vicious, it is astonishing that John Lindon, the brat who hates everything and everyone is a Kate fanatic.
Actually, that’s a very accurate description of these early albums so far! Yeah, the movie that I talked about in this video was a really interesting depiction of the relationship between those two people as well as his wife.
That’s what I’m named after …well sort of. That moon was named after the mistress of Jupiter’s husbund in reek mythology and that’s who I am named after!
Such a sweet tribute to a man I didn’t even know inspired this song. Thanks for filling me in
No thank you for saying that I really appreciate it!
Doom Ranger Kate also mentions Bill in "Moments Of Pleasure".
So much more behind every song than I ever knew. And Kate is at the top of my favs list. Thanks for digging out this info!
I know the backstories really are fascinating! Thanks …I’m glad you liked it:)
Thank you so much for reviewing this song. I particularly enjoyed your commentary at the beginning about Bill. You did a great job, great research once again.
Regarding the lyrics. I'm not sure it's about Bill, but it's dedicated to him. I love the first couple of verses and the way Kate phrases them. I've always thought it was about talented people who were taken too early and how their achievements don't blow away even though her deep discussions with one of the band and the engineer ponder about this.
I only heard this track a couple of months ago but it's definitely one of my favourites. This album is my favourite KB also.
Can't wait for you to review Kate's musical version of Kill Bill: The Wedding List. ❤
The piano, bass and of course her wonderful vocals are remarkable.
Hmmm. Maybe you’re right I assumed since she said our “engineer had different ideas” that she was speaking about Bill in the first verse too. But he wasn’t one of her band although I assumed it meant that he was one of the band as in like “band of merry men”. It’s a tough one to interpret. But a beautiful song. That’s the great thing about Music is after it’s written it becomes the world’s to interpret. More questions to ask Kate. Haha! Looking forward to the wedding list!
@@popcornphilosopher could you please tell me where the live clip comes from of Kate saying 'this one's for Bill'
@@mattking5936 the video was a live, cover version of let it be from the benefit ua-cam.com/video/0J1BvpWMvxM/v-deo.html. Here’s the full benefit concert.ua-cam.com/video/49gStAx8IRQ/v-deo.html
Such a gorgeous song. That long note! I always took the "Please don't bump me back there" part as the feeling of not wanting to go back after experiencing this "afterlife" - which seems represented by the blissful chorus. Artists leave their creations to the world and in a way maybe that makes leaving it easier? That's the feeling I get from this piece. You're right about the arrangement. It's just so beautifully textured.
Wow, everyone’s interpretation has been so lovely. And like it could absolutely be true. I love yours! But it just shows how underrated this song this is! Also, knowing more about the story, makes it even more emotional
I agree, with the "Please don't bump me back there" part I always mentally picture somebody being revived, thumped and shocked back into this world from some warm otherworldly place.
@@mpete42 exactly!
@@mpete42 that actually makes a lot more sense. I was thinking bump me like as like an airline bumping you to a different flight. So I was thinking about Buddy Holly and how some artists on that flight didn’t want to wait to fly later and others didn’t want to go at all.
A really interesting reaction. One of the reasons that Never Forever is such a varied album is that it was recorded in two halves. In late summer/Autumn 1979 Kate began recording at AIR studios in central London. She recorded the unrecorded songs used as part of her tour - Violin and Egypt as well as two new songs Blow Away and The Wedding List. Before this, she had been invited to Work on Peter Gabrial 3 (Melt) where she recorded backing vocals for a couple of tracks including Games without Frontiers (these became quite iconic and often misheard) which became Peter Gabrial's biggest hit.
In October 1979 Kate recorded her Christmas special including the new recordings made for Never Forever and Peter Gabrial as a guest.
According to a recent Australian documentary about the inventors of the Fairlight CMI it was just after this that one of the inventors brought some of the machines to England and specifically Peter Gabrial who was going to act as their agent in Europe. After seeing a demonstration Peter is reported to have said ' I think Kate will like this, she talked about having something like this' and he phoned her and she appeared a couple of days later and managed to borrow/ lease on to use on the second recording phase of the album.
In January 1980 Kate was given the opportunity to record the rest of Never Forever at Abbey Road studios. Apparently, she was very excited at the prospect and got to use Studio 2 - The Beatles Studio. Kates's recording at Abbey Road became a little notorious for her attention to detail and her use of a 'revolving door' of musicians as she looked for exactly the right sound. The length of time recording would become a notable (and expensive) feature of her future recordings. She has said she loved the magic of Abbey Road and all her albums since have included some recording and/or mixing at the studio
I would be excited about recording at Abbey Road too! It’s kind of sad because I don’t think we’ll ever get that kind of attention to detail again in music the way people made music back then. There really has become a deeper and deeper disrespect of music with streaming and now ai. Even though you can still find great music still I really think it’s affecting the output of great music. Andh it’s easier to record music now they’re really was something special to this music from the 70s and 80s. And people like me reacting to it are really figuring that out!
I didn’t know games without frontiers was Peter Gabriel’s biggest hit. I’m glad because I thought it with sledgehammer and I much prefer it that song! Thanks for the interesting information. I’m keeping a lot of it in mind for future videos.!
For the record, the other track on which Kate supplied backing vocals was "No Self Control"
I should have said the biggest hit in the UK (sledgehammer also got to number 4 in 1986) On the first day of recording at Abbey Road Kate recorded a piano ballad to test the acoustics. She said she was 'knocked out' by the results. The song was Warm and Soothing which Kate described as autobiographical and would go on to be used as the B side for December will be Magic Again released November 1980.
She has also told stories of after her sessions secretly climbing onto the beams of the roof space above Studio 1 from her studio to watch the orchestras playing below (it is where the music for Star Wars /Indiana Jones etc was recorded)
@@mjarve909 oh, you know I did a reaction to warm and soothing that I never posted. Because I thought it was a demo. From when I was doing the kb demo week. Sledgehammer was the only Peter Gabriel song I knew for a long time which is not my favorite. But he has a lot of really great songs. I learned later.
One of my all-time favourite songs - from such a brilliant and (often) underrated album. Thank you for your great video which I believe does the song and it's background justice.
Thank you that is so kind! I was hoping it was going to be enough. I really wanted to honor someone who must’ve been an impactful person but it wasn’t easy to find info.
Brilliant job, Io, as always. Bill will be smiling!
Awww thank you that is the best compliment …I hope so!
When you release a new KB deep dive my day gets a little bit brighter. Thanks IO.
That’s what I hope so much when I make videos so it’s so kind of you to say that!
Nice to find a fellow fan and one so young. Kate is a poet who composes. She is such a trend setter.
Thank you. Yes, definitely a fan. She really is so inspiring!
Another lovely and warm reaction to a wonderful Kate Bush song thanks Ms Popcorn I'm really looking forward to your next one.
Thank you so much. I like being Ms popcorn lol.
Later in kates 7th album, she would mention Bill again along with others she'd lost in a song, amazing song, and amazing deep dive from you Io !
Thank you so much… Oh yes it mentioned that but it didn’t say what album?
Oh jut looked it up Red Shoes! I’m looking forward to that one. I know that has Prince too!
@Popcorn Philosopher yes it's a very underated album the song Bill's name features is one of kates most beautiful it's named "Moments of Pleasure"!
@@stevengornall934 I can’t wait to hear it!
Great reaction to a thought provoking song. N4E is one of my favourite albums and gives us a glimpse of the genius that follows in subsequent albums. Can't wait for your reaction to The Infant Kiss! Such a beautiful and haunting song, where Kate's vocal soars, but you'll need to do your research on the subject matter, or the lyrics will really spook you out! (And there's a french language version of The Infant Kiss too - "Un baiser d'enfant", which is even more beautiful)!
Thank you and that’s so interesting …I love a backstory! Can’t wait to hear it and research it!
Lovely analysis from you. Such a gorgeous lush song. This album, and everything Kate has done in the future is so varied. You never know what you are going to get next. Not just album to album, but track to track. I love that. Thank You.
I’m so glad you liked it thank you. Yeah I really got lost in this song. The song itself only got better as I listen to it more especially with the backstory. It’s great Kate is so unpredictable and surprising.
Another fantastic video and deep dive into this wonderful track and the very sad story behind the title. The amount of effort you put into all of your content on this channel, is just brilliant. Long may it continue.
Thank you! I was hoping it was enough. It wasn’t easy to find information I really wanted to know more!
Yes please do a part 2....we enjoy your videos
You mean to the Japan video?
Outstanding research. I knew only vaguely about this incident, you fleshed it out. Well done.
Kate of course is also the voice singing the background "Jeux sans frontières" on Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers".
"Back in the day" we had to go find imported records to acquire this LP and the first several. Mine was a Canadian one. Seems EMI didn't think Kate would sell in the US, but *would* sell in Canada (?). Then again EMI also didn't think the Beatles would sell in the US and didn't think The Move would either, so they don't exactly have a sterling record of foresight, much to the detriment of the artists.
"Kate is no pushover" -- ain't that the truth. That's why we respect her so much. Well that and the uncompromised music of course.
Thank you I very much appreciate that1 oh wow really even with the success of Babooshka? They didn’t release this in America? That’s crazy.
Regarding the non-availability of this album, her American label/distributor wanted Kate to tour America as a support act. She refused because if she did go on tour, she wanted it to be under her control and to be her vision (which ultimately resulted in her 1979 tour in the UK, Ireland and Europe). This led to a falling out with the American company which resulted in the non-release of "Never For Ever" in North America.
@@popcornphilosopher It was suggested at one point that there would be a third leg of the tour of life in the late summer 1979 (probably but not officially to North America - she had sold particularly well in Canada) but Kate was struggling a bit medically during the second (European) leg and some of the shows were reduced in length so any plans were postponed.
Also, the planned (and announced at a London Fan event in 1990) 'Tour' (1992?) would likely have included North America.
@@popcornphilosopher In "America" but not in the US. As I recall my first three KB LPs were Canadian (on the Harvest label) and The Dreaming was a UK copy. You just had to pony up and pay more for an import, just because the record company wanted to be dicks. They finally gave in with Hounds of Love, whereupon they started releasing the back catalogue as if to say "oh look what we found, who knew".
@@notvalidcharacters you’re so right wow sometimes we here in the US sometimes forget that Canadians are Americans too! But that kind of dickishness from the labels is part of what brought down their industry lol
Thanks again for what has been a really intriguing and enjoyable video. Thanks for the research in advance of the video. There are performers who you can just listen to and not really think about what you are listening to or the what or why they wrote their music. Certainly you can do that with Kate Bush, but it is far better to listen to her music with a bit of background - because for some of her songs, the subject matter, cultural references and so on are essential to any real grasp of them and then in turn to fully "getting" the particular album. Your videos are very well done and your genuine interest in getting to grips with her music shines through every one.
As to this song. I always begin with the thing that first struck me about it, which is its direct quotation of a famous Shakespeare line, from Othello:
"Put out the light, then, put out the light"
Othello is about to murder Desdemona. he says "put out the light" as in put out the candle in her room - which leaves them alone in the darkness. And then once more he says "then put out the light" this time meaning to put out the light of her life and breath as he stands in that now darkened room. Whereas the candle can be relit, Desdemona's light cannot. Her light is forever extinguished within the darkness that he himself had brought into the scene.
This is one of the few songs from that early period that get so close to Kate Bush and her personal life. In the song she considers the afterlife from an odd angle of maybe a musician's music dies when they die... but since their music lives on and can have even greater influence than when they were alive, might that not suggest that something of them lives on? But also might they not also carry their music with them to the afterlife?
She said of this song that death is the "ultimate unknown" [but at the same time] "it's our ultimate purpose. That's what we're here for. So I thought this thing about the death-fear. I like to think I'm coming to terms with it"
Death as our ultimate purpose raises a lot of questions as to how to live our lives in preparation for it.
Thanks again!
I try I thought maybe I didn’t do enough research. This was harder to find info on. But I appreciate that! maybe I’m being to hard on myself.
I read Othello in high school and I don’t remember a lot of it so I didn’t even catch the reference. But I appreciate you giving me a refresher! That’s definitely true of musicians though and really most kinds of artists Tht’s one reason art is so appealing to me. An artist can be of service long after they die! I go back and forth about death. I mean it’s inevitable., I just hope it’s a nice one. No?
Thank you for posting this very interesting... 🌟
You’re very welcome so glad you enjoyed it!
Bill is one of the last people to feature on Moments Of Pleasure also as she remembers past memories. I never really considered that this incident might have been the reason that she didn’t do live shows for all that time until Before The Dawn.
Great job as always 👍
I think it would be fun to tour on that level but also so much responsiblity. I never really thought about that before hearing about this. But I’m glad you liked the video! Thank U!
Hey there, Bill
Could you turn the lights up?
Love this Channel! So cool learning how peter Gabriel and Kate met! At a benefit show for the dude that Blow Away is about??! Whaaat. The Plot thickens...
Thank you so much! Right??? The back stories are so interesting!
Never for Ever reminds the listener that nothing...good or bad...is forever. That's what I get from this CD. It is about transitions for me. There seems to be a theme. As far as touring, remember Kate never wanted to perform. She wanted to write. I don't think she liked the promotion part of her job. And once she finished a project, there was no incentive for her to relive those songs. Intensely creative, she moves to what is next and doesn't look behind her. The latest concert only happened because of her son according to articles. And I personally believe she wanted to see that Ninth Wave film from Hounds of Love finished. She started that project and it was scrapped. I believe she always felt it was unfinished and it bothered her. So they dedicated one whole act to that music in the live show. As I said, just a hunch on my part on the last concert and why she may have returned. She was completing her vision and finally could put the idea to rest.
Oh, interesting. I’ve been wondering what Never for Ever meant. Consciously three words instead of two so many of these interpretations from y’all are wildly different yet beautiful! I like yours because honestly it’s fitting to how I feel about everything now. It’s so true no feeling or event good or bad lasts forever. I love how that fits with the songs I’ve heard, and with this song specifically.
According to Bush, the title alluded to conflicting emotions, good and bad, which pass, as she stated: "we must tell our hearts that it is 'never for ever', and be happy that it's like that".
@@leannemiller9514 oh wow that is so obvious now that you say it. I kept getting tripped up on the fact that it was three words lol.
I'm really enjoying these deep dives and all the hard work you've done. I haven't heard some of the older songs in years. It makes me smile all over again. That note she holds at the end of this song and her outro. My GOD, golden! My suggestion for the upcoming song Infant Kiss is to also listen to the French version as well. I think another one of ur Kernels (fans of u Popcorn) mentioned it in the comments. It's hard picking the better version.
Love this perfect
Nice 💯🙂
Hey thanks! I missed the premiere! I was working andf I think set the time zone wrong!
I had to look up melismatic by the way. So thanks for teach me a new word
Haha yeah think Whitney Houston or Cristina Aguilera
It’s speculated that Kate says Vicious twice as a nod to both Sid and Nancy. Never could figure out why Buddy Holly’s name is mentioned though since he died 20 years earlier than these other musicians.
I was just thinking it, the fact that they were all sort of passionate musicians, who died rather tragically young. But that’s really interesting about the double mention!
I think the vibe of Never Forever, which seems to be a mix of wonder, cynicism and disappointment, might have been affected by tbe shock of losing Bill. Delius also expressed a tragjc loss. It is a song that references a composer who dies from syphilis and required assistance from a young musician to complete his final compositions because he had lost all sense of pitch and tone and could no longer play tbe piano. love that there is a good-bye to Sid Vicious, it is astonishing that John Lindon, the brat who hates everything and everyone is a Kate fanatic.
Actually, that’s a very accurate description of these early albums so far! Yeah, the movie that I talked about in this video was a really interesting depiction of the relationship between those two people as well as his wife.
Kate has always said that her passion was more about songwriting than performing.
Doing the concerts took too much time away from her songwriting.
Yeah, I could totally see that. She was so young when she started …it probably took her a while to figure that out.!
Sorry my UA-cam has gone crazy giving me notice of all kind of videos I hate I had to turn off notices but I search you out everytime I get on
AHH thank you that makes my day!
IO a Jupiter moon. You were a Jeopardy clue!
That’s what I’m named after …well sort of. That moon was named after the mistress of Jupiter’s husbund in reek mythology and that’s who I am named after!