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Ludwig saying he plays 'electric' (i.e. good) and Dr K. thinking he's talking about a character named 'Electric' is a fascinating misunderstanding to watch never get resolved.
that was my first time watching a stream on this channel, and it was incredible. I feel like this has helped with my own happiness & motivation issues and is pushing me in a healthier direction. Thank you Dr. K and the team behind HealthyGamerGG for this stream and thank you Ludwig for being on here which led me to watch the stream
I’ve been kinda disheartened he keeps having content creators on who not only don’t grow from the conversations, but actively feel like they’re lying during it when it turns out they do 0 work post being with Dr. K. I hadn’t considered that it could still help a lot of fans of those people if people like Lud still come on, even if he himself won’t take anything away from it
@@JStack You should go check out the first stream with the two of them. That one was much deeper on a personal level. Now they do these just to share audiences, ask some fun questions, maybe poke into psychology a little bit, just have a good time and learn some things.
I love all of the conversations on this channel, but I think this one was super interesting because Ludwig is very good at honing in on exactly what you're talking about. He doesn't want to half-understand your point and move on, he wants to make sure that if there's something in there that sounds weird to him, he's going to get to the bottom of it, and because you guys think differently but are both working to untangle any knots it makes the point both more accessible and more precise, which I think is great. The perfect productive tension between two different approaches to the same goals.
2:06:33 "It's just day one, two, and three, over and over and over again. And the whole reason that people get burned out is because people live day one, two, and three in a shitty way hoping for day 100 to be better. And then they go back to day one, two, and three, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice but it's just day one, two, and three over and over and over again." Love this sentiment, it's a message that seems simple but people (including me) forget this cycle
As someone with ADHD I have realised that in order to get anything done, I rely on the flow state and the "one pointedness of the mind" as you put it, that comes with it. I used to think of this simply as "I need stress to get anything done" which is of course a very poular thought in the ADHD space. The problem I had which really derailled my life was that I found that the lower limit for "enough stress to do the thing" kept getting higher and the upper limit of "too much stress to do the thing because I'm overwhelmed" began to fall, untill they crossed over, and there was no space in between to function and I couldn't do the simplest tasks without getting really overwhelmed. This then became its own meta-source of anxiety which compounded things because the thought of my work giving me anxiety was itself giving me anxiety. I would love to see a video on this, because although I'm doing better now, I never really dealt with this problem.
i think also many places also reroute it to 911, im not sure if its the opposite but if you try calling 112 in america i can assume it may go to 911, it is still better to call the right number first tho
OK this needs correction. There are designated numbers for specific emergencies. Police/Fire department/ambulance. 112 or 999 are the general numbers from which you'll get redirected depending on your emergency
Personal notes 1:00:49 - Life should be played in alignment with yourself 2:05:55 - Majora's mask analogy 💜 2:09:06 - Eudaimonia (happiness) involves Self-determination, Self-expression, Importance, Effort
@@zugrath16 While they're watching it for the first time, they just keep jotting down the topic changes. Initially, I thought they watch streams like twice or thrice. And some streams on youtube last, like, 6 hours and they STILL have timestamp videos and I used to think "YOU WATCHED THIS VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES??".....uhh no. I was dum. They just jot them down while enjoying the video/stream in the first time itself.
38:23 "Penises and pregnancy are very tightly correlated" The scholars of 21xx are going to have a tough time cracking this one 🤔 50:14 God he's such a goldmine 😂
I love every time Dr K has Lud on the stream. Ludwig is such a good listener and truly is willing to listen and learn. I hope that he has him on here again.
The 1st healthy gg video I watched was your first time having Ludwig on. You 2 have a great chemistry in these conversations. Thanks to both of you for what you do!
This conversation connected a lot of dots that have been floating around in my head for months now. Questions like how much effort should I be putting into life, what do I do when I can't live up to the standards that I set for myself, what do I do when I feel like I've fucked myself by being lazy in the past. I've been ruminating a lot on the difficulty of life and how that relates to the idea of putting in effort without expectations. I think this conversation covers these ideas from a really intriguing angle. The majoras mask analogy is really powerful to me, it felt like everything was building up so this sentiment could be expressed in that way
If you enjoyed a lot of what dr.k talks about in here, a lot of reminds me of Zen Buddhism. It’s funny that Ludwig brought up Allan watts because he’s a great mind who has spoken on these topics extensively. The way of zen by Allan watts completely reshaped my view of work and effort and helped me sort out a lot of the “why?” In my life
I really enjoy the conversations between Lud and Dr. K. The back and forth and just listening to everything really gets me to think. I hope there will be more Ludwig and Dr. K talks because I like the chemistry between you two
35:00 WHAT?! In school I would always get marked down points on essay questions because I would just answer in a few sentences that are straight to the point and accurately answer the question instead of wasting everybody's time coming up with paragraphs of word vomiting in past experiences of mine that have nothing to do with the actual question. Especially because I was in honors classes that expected you to do extra work for the sake of extra work, that was a single-handedly why my grades dropped in school and I stopped caring about it as much. After I got my first job I ended up just dropping out and getting my GED ahead of when I would have graduated anyway. I had done the calculations while I was wasting away a class and realized how much money I would be making
I found Doctor K Maybe 2 weeks ago going through a hard time in my relationship, will forever be grateful for the sense of relatability and pure conversations that have been had, that eventually helped me in so many ways and made me more in touch with myself and not afraid to feel.
You should reach out to Gotham Chess! He is working on becoming a GM right now, and a lot of his focus is on the mental aspects. Levy and you would have a great conversation!.
I'm 27, so around same age as Ludwig. I also worry about stuff like he does. I work as a 3D character animator. I love it so much. I'm also overwhelmed at times by all the different creative projects I want to do, I want to pour my heart into, I like writing and I wanna write stories, I want to make independent productions on my own, blah blah blah. It scares me, this idea, that not all of my ambitions and designs and passion projects and desires will be fulfilled. I don't want to let my ideas down. I don't want to give half of myself. I want to give my entire creative self to this existence, but also I'm just a person and I face burn out and I have to work on non-passion project things to survive and I also enjoy that too. But I do know that I'm a passionate person; I won't let things slip if I really want them to exist for me. Of course in general, I wouldn't like to neglect the things that I want to do. But it's also not up to me to write every detail of my life and have it go justly accordingly to plan. At some level, I have to sacrifice what I want so that what can be can be. A lot of the great things in my life now were completely out of my control and scope before they got here, and so did my desires adjust thereafter. Keep a log of your past goals and plans, and revisit it from time to time to see if it holds true. Even for small personal projects, I end up dropping most of them. I outgrew them!
my 2 favorite content creators ever are having a discussion that opens my mind and reminds me to re-focus my mind on what matters most; being content in everyday life, living day by day. when u guys said that you're making contents that heals people, know that your contents heals at least 1 person (me lol) so thankyou so much for putting these beautiful convo out here for people to see and hear :)
This is one of the most helpful and eye opening videos, I liked how ludwig asks and how he made Dr K think and talk about his life and feelings. I really find these 1-1 conversations to be super engaging and informative.
Ludwig's Majora's mask comparison just blew my fucking mind. That was a genius and dare I say perfect find! Hope you all is learning as much as me since starting to watch these talks. Soon ill start to study again re-energized and chin up
I've been a fan of Dr. K for years and I've gotta say this is one of my favorite chats ever! It resonated with me so deeply and I just felt things click into place. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face and I'm so deeply thankful for all the work and events that came together to lead to this moment.
I'm glad to see that more and more streamer/viewer interviews are coming back. They're probably my favorite way to consume content on this channel, it provides you a deep amount of introspection when Dr. K mentions a new topic or new science you hadn't heard of; and provides you with a more humanizing view of others and yourself. Thank you for bringing these people back on the channel, Dr. K!
I love when Ludwig is on with you Dr K. The discussions had usually feel very personal and vulnerable while being entertaining. I think this creates a dynamic that can resonate with me personally and a lot of the messages unearthed over the session can be applied to my personal life in a positive way. I hope to see more content with Ludwig in the future it’s truly a gift each time.
yea but that isnt so important for communication. everyone will understand. but easy to remember its like bored vs boring. I am bc i feel, vs It is out like an aura.
@@Kurobeau sure but there are people who want a little more than just being understood, so i figured i’d try to explain it to the best of my ability (which was hard cause i just understand it without thinking abt it 😅 so i appreciate you chiming in)
1:58:38 Yes! I try explaining this as "unhappiness is a choice". You can take any situation as a reason to mope around, feel sorry for yourself, and get sympathy, but who does that help? What does that solve? Just move on to the next happy
I randomly saw a short featuring Ludwig explaining what's gooning😂 Ended up watching the entire thing, you really have a lot of interesting perspectives, and I couldn't help but listened them!
32:20 THIS! It is actually so easy to learn literally anything you want as long as you don't expect it to happen overnight and enjoy the process. I effectively taught myself parkour and became one of the world's best athletes for a time, taught myself Japanese as well as how airlines work so I could take a flight to Japan and backpack across the country, and after my bills started getting more expensive and I tore my ACL I decided to learn how to rap because I always appreciated the lyricism of artists like Eminem
Thanks Dr. K and Ludwig, I rarely comment but just wanted to express my gratitude. I'm studying for my finals just before my thesis year in Elec Eng and I've been listening to this convo before starting my study for the day. I already have a sticky note of 'Delay Failing' on my wall from your ADHD video, but rehearing this expression of kinda the same concept was just what I needed right now. Just take one day at a time, Today is Today, and Tomorrow is just another Today!
I just want to say that even though I’m not a gamer, finding Dr. K’s content has really made a deep impact on me. Definitely a life changing impact. Almost every time that I listen to him I feel incredibly seen and understood even though he has no idea who I am. And every time I learn something that makes me understand my own inner life so much better. So thank you❤
Watched your episode on the Diary of a CEO podcast on my walk home this morning after dropping my son off from school. I cried at the end with what you said about your kids. It's so relatable. Ordered your book today. I would love to know more about your meditative practices as well. What you say about meditation reminds me of a book I read a long time ago "Meditation As Medicine" by Guru Dharma Singh Khalsa M.D.. He speaks about meditation from the perspective of an endocrinologist. Best wishes to you and your familia!
I honestly can't express how insightful these streams with Ludwig have been. The other guests are also helpful and interesting to see, but the "mundane" side is something that kinda falls to the side for many of them. Ludwig seems like a dude who mostly has it all together in a way I'd like to believe I too do - meaning he has very similar problems. That last bit of conversation about Majora's Mask and day 1-2-3 suddenly made it click for me as to how I can enjoy my job more (it's pretty inconsistent as of currently). The way they spoke about streamers not getting breaks - the exact feeling/problem I also face as a student (and at work). They made me realise that I'm currently not cut out for that. They also made me very hopeful towards my mental improving after uni because of this. Hands down the best conversation (for me in my situation) in a long while.
13:36 knowledge is not a path, it's a field. Just because you don't know a particular thing doesn't mean you are dumb. When somebody knows something that you don't the odds are that you know things they don't as well. Nobody knows everything, that's why we have encyclopedias and the internet
Dr. K has helped me a lot just by watching his videos that are free to watch on You tube. This was a impressive video to watch never the less thanks Ludwig & Dr. K.
I think Ludwigs biggest strength is he is a very honest liar. In that, he will lie but follow up almost instantly with the truth. However, sometimes he draws it out, so you're always engaged in what he's saying, waiting for the other shoe to drop.
34:30 this is the proper way to look at it. I don't necessarily think that enjoying a video game or watching a movie is wasting time but it should be something you are conscious of. When I look back at some of the competitive games I've put hundreds of hours into I kind of laughed at the fact that if I could have taken that energy and applied it more towards my Japanese studies I'd be easily fluent
Ive been watching you for a few months just really taking on that journey of understanding not only myself and others but slowly the world as a whole and how everything is connected. Side note Terrence Howard’s onto something
I love how intellectual this conversation became and that the contradictory nature of it is really just min-maxxing the understanding of the game of life. : )
37:00-39:00 I personally think a good example of really close opposites are love and hate, really intense feelings for a person that make you act that won't go away easily, you have that person in your mind at times that even you don't really want. but at the end of the day those feelings are kinda opposites.
I realized something about the flow state a while ago, flow state I always find is a state of comfortability, thats not saying what your doing isn't challenging but if you can see a path through it you can get into a flow state. Two examples are writing and fighting, when you write if your not well versed on your material then you feel lost or its really slow going, if i research and research and research and then start writing i can write for days, all the paths of thought I was building up comes out in a flow. An important note is that flow state doesn't mean things will be good, that comes with skill, flow is more a state of mind. Fighting is another example, when facing an opponent that you don't fear but don't look down on your brain can get comfortable, seeing paths for attacks and defence, you might still lose to an opponent thats not in flow state if they are just better but still you will make flow state. Being able to turn on and off flow state i think is an important skill cause it lets you do shit faster, and we all need some extra time
You have no idea how good it made me feel to hear you, someone I look up to and view as a person who takes their work very seriously and is admired by a lot of people for it, say that you ignored your work to play dota all day. That really opened my eyes to the fact that these things are normal and I'm not lesser for succumbing to the same
I've been a viewer for many years and the part I always enjoyed most is Dr Ks experience with the eastern religions/philosophys. I understand that "Dr KS guide to Buddhism" sikt coming soon, but one video I would love is a Dr K approved reading list to learn more about eastern thinking etc. It's so a category that is so full with humbug that it's really hard to navigate what is good and bad source material.
It is really inspiring learing about living your life without avoiding regrets. I think I was trying to live like this most of the time, but everyone around always said: "don't do that, because you will regret it. It's not worth it" and so on. Glad I ignored them 😂
How many people would watch if Ludwig would stream the process of starting a bakery and teaching everyone the steps of how to start a bakery. Everything from business perspective to actually baking stuff.
This talk really inspired me to set an hour aside to get some things sorted on my day off. Really made me feel a lot better about relaxing the rest of the day, which I would have done anyways. Thanks a lot Dr.K and Ludwig 😁
As someone who tends to overthink and dwell too much on the future this has been extremely helpful with how i view my life. Thankful for Dr.K and the informational content as usual
9:50 I never understood lacking confidence to learn new things. People seem scared to be bad at something when that's literally how you start being good at something 11:16 Yes! I hate that people do this! Or they'll just joke that they'll be bad so they won't try. Just, ugh, im trying to have fun! 11:46 Luckily you don't need to be very good at Japanese to survive. I backpacked across the country with absolutely no plans and it was fairly simple 30:22 I do this. It's only bad if you overdo it and end up with essentially decision paralysis and waste your time doing nothing for fear of using your time in valuable. Becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
Love you Ludwig, love you Dr K! Its kinda cool seeing Ludwig go from a streamer playing games with friends to being a boss and struggling with that responsibility and having a fellow human talk about the ins and outs of what that means. Thanks this has been helpful for me too
Hi, maybe it's just my perception, but I like that DrK is taking conversation to more meta level. It is less profitable for us ADHD bros, but for general population it is very profitable. I like the difference between strict plans what to do step by step and meta goals what to aim for for a better success. Thank you.
Same thing Ludwig , after playing osrs for years I looked back and lost so much time to be productive and grind irl. Havent logged in months, got in the gym & my whole daily routine has changed. I have no desire to even start my pc anymore , the happiness does not compare !
Interesting thing Dr K talks about understanding and living your life with understanding, but also says that no one knows if he's gonna regret things a year from now
Book suggestion for BOTH Ludwig and DR K "zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance". It will scratch the itch for both. The physical book is good, but honestly the older readings of the audiobook are also amazing, just be sure whichever source you get also includes the prologue at the end. It is a book any man should go through on regular intervals in their life
Been puttin this off, but glad I came back. Seen enough shorts clips of the stream, and I remembered how Dr K did such a good job talking to him last time he came on. Can definitely feel my ego... the urge to see a tall poppy brought back to earth is STRONK.
Hmmm, the eureka moment felt facetious somewhat... but we're on different journeys, so will have different lessons. Glad to see you both doing well, and best of luck in y'alls future endeavours :D
While the streams, meditations, and the knowledge and insight HAVE been helping. I still feel I haven't had that switch happen in my brain, yet? I still have floods of thoughts, impulses I feel I can't control, and times of running away and self destruct only for me to regret it later once I have calmed down. Probably bipolar. Thank you Dr. K for investing your time in the well being of those of less mental stability.
hi! this sounds like me (with pbd) so ill offer what has flicked a big switch for me. i started doing simple breathing practises, then the vim hof method and then my favourite which is the breathing method to release dmt. im not exactly sure what it does or why it works. maybe give these a try couple of times. i have bpd and my symptoms have lessened greately for the day i do the practise and its beginning to affect the next days too when i do it with intention and properly. i wish good things to you, maybe this helps you
@@zodsi I will research those methods and see if any work, on the shit life syndrome stream a couple days ago, I did the meditation section at the end for the first time and along with other chatters in the chatroom I noticed I began to cry, as others stated. I googled and found it is normal and just means I'm releasing emotional tension. While in the moment it works, so quickly I can hear, or experience, or even think of something that can quickly spiral and all of a sudden im in a dark dungeon until some other thought or experience takes me out. I'm always self aware, but the shit just happens. I believe more exercise, or pursuing a hobby could help release all of the build up shit in me so I can kind of just "ring" it out of me like a wet towel. I personally don't believe in medication, I just have to take things a day at a time, sometimes an hour at a time. Thanks for the advice and insight.
Become comfortable with the chaos. Instead of trying to "fix" your thoughts, and "cure" yourself, accept that your thoughts exist. They're trying to help you. Don't force them down or away, look at them objectively. Before long, your mind will learn that you respect it's opinion, and won't need to attack you with thoughts to get attention. Like training a dog or a child, if you fight it... it will learn to fight back.
1:10:30 My friend work in the education field and I often heard from her that teaching girl school differs from teaching boys school. In girl school there are a lot of reading the room, the ostracizing will come when you fail to read the room too many times and then they don't want to deal with you or on some extreme case physical bullying. Often time they also wage proxy war thus the badmouthing. I actually wonder how was the aggression categorized in the study (whether its by intention or of other factor etc) because I wonder whether in their POV they see it as aggression or was it through the lens of others. Also I wonder how much of that was also affected by anxiety since you said its more prevalent for women. My own personal conspiracy theory is that its part of evolution since in the past the women often socialize when they work (eg washing laundry in the river or weaving etc) and they have to also be on guard for weirdos that could snatch their kids away thus there are a lot more vibe check. I think that is also the reason why they bully those that are prettier as it might threaten their social position which in turn their children (eg in polygamy situation or harem) or use they will use their pretty advantage to lever in social structure. I also think maybe that is why proxy war is more common as almost across all culture there are more pressure for women to keep their image as pure or innocent.. thus the weapon of choice is to destroy another person image and in turn killing their social life/presence.
Odd bit of history. Mark Twain is often attributed with saying, "I didnt have time to write a short letter, so here is a long one" but the original quote is Bliase Pascals 1657, "I have only made this letter longer because I have not had the time to make it shorter."
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Can anyone share the music track name which is used at the beginning of the stream?
Ludwig saying he plays 'electric' (i.e. good) and Dr K. thinking he's talking about a character named 'Electric' is a fascinating misunderstanding to watch never get resolved.
timestamp
I thought it was a character lol
59:19
To be fair, it's rather difficult to keep up when slang and definitions are constantly shifting.
So true
that was my first time watching a stream on this channel, and it was incredible. I feel like this has helped with my own happiness & motivation issues and is pushing me in a healthier direction. Thank you Dr. K and the team behind HealthyGamerGG for this stream and thank you Ludwig for being on here which led me to watch the stream
Once you go down the dr k rabbit hole… there’s no going back..
I’ve been kinda disheartened he keeps having content creators on who not only don’t grow from the conversations, but actively feel like they’re lying during it when it turns out they do 0 work post being with Dr. K.
I hadn’t considered that it could still help a lot of fans of those people if people like Lud still come on, even if he himself won’t take anything away from it
@@JStack may I ask what makes you think that lud definitely won’t take anything from it?
Another yuumei art enjoyer
@@JStack You should go check out the first stream with the two of them. That one was much deeper on a personal level. Now they do these just to share audiences, ask some fun questions, maybe poke into psychology a little bit, just have a good time and learn some things.
“What is gooning” I shouldn’t have laughed as much as I did. Too funny man
Never thought I'd hear a talk about gooing on Dr. K 🤣They might not get another sponsor after that conversation....
I'm so glad we got to witness that
Where the hell was Ludwig going with the allegory of the cave? 😂 Was Plato a goon?
Time stamp?
Ludwigs brain was never some fortress of intellectualism but the Internet vocabulary of the last 5 years has rotted his mind. 😅😂
I love all of the conversations on this channel, but I think this one was super interesting because Ludwig is very good at honing in on exactly what you're talking about. He doesn't want to half-understand your point and move on, he wants to make sure that if there's something in there that sounds weird to him, he's going to get to the bottom of it, and because you guys think differently but are both working to untangle any knots it makes the point both more accessible and more precise, which I think is great. The perfect productive tension between two different approaches to the same goals.
One of the best
well said
Man, I don't watch Dr. K a lot (maybe two videos a month), but every time he talks it's just extremely healthy dialogue beamed straight into my brain
real
so true. i love dr. k
Especially when you compare it to the rest of UA-cam or social media in general lmao.
@@akshithfrParticularly the plethora of mental health creators out there. He's got such a good head on his shoulders
2:06:33 "It's just day one, two, and three, over and over and over again. And the whole reason that people get burned out is because people live day one, two, and three in a shitty way hoping for day 100 to be better. And then they go back to day one, two, and three, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice but it's just day one, two, and three over and over and over again." Love this sentiment, it's a message that seems simple but people (including me) forget this cycle
As someone with ADHD I have realised that in order to get anything done, I rely on the flow state and the "one pointedness of the mind" as you put it, that comes with it. I used to think of this simply as "I need stress to get anything done" which is of course a very poular thought in the ADHD space. The problem I had which really derailled my life was that I found that the lower limit for "enough stress to do the thing" kept getting higher and the upper limit of "too much stress to do the thing because I'm overwhelmed" began to fall, untill they crossed over, and there was no space in between to function and I couldn't do the simplest tasks without getting really overwhelmed. This then became its own meta-source of anxiety which compounded things because the thought of my work giving me anxiety was itself giving me anxiety. I would love to see a video on this, because although I'm doing better now, I never really dealt with this problem.
I think ive hit the point you were worried about. Now gonna look into flow state, thank you internet stranger!
Couldn’t have said it better
thank you so much for saying this
please make a vid on this
Amazing observation! If you happen to find any resources on this I'd be grateful for you sharing them.
Just to clear things up at 46:55: if you are in an emergency in the EU, you call 112 instead of 911!
i think also many places also reroute it to 911, im not sure if its the opposite but if you try calling 112 in america i can assume it may go to 911, it is still better to call the right number first tho
@@tdotitan8855 It's usually the other way around, it is better to call 112 since it is regional in the USA as well
I was really confused for a sec when he said four. That's not a thing, people, 112 is the way to go!
If you're in Australia, you dial 000.
OK this needs correction. There are designated numbers for specific emergencies.
Police/Fire department/ambulance.
112 or 999 are the general numbers from which you'll get redirected depending on your emergency
Ludwig is so good at asking questions, it feels like every question he asks can be broken down and explored
Yeah and it was great to see an interview with the questions directed at Dr. K for a change.
The journalist within lives
Yes. And Ludwig was right.
Personal notes
1:00:49 - Life should be played in alignment with yourself
2:05:55 - Majora's mask analogy 💜
2:09:06 - Eudaimonia (happiness) involves Self-determination, Self-expression, Importance, Effort
nice friend
52:30 was a pretty neat idea too
Stream Start, Intro & 988 Sponsorship : 03:33
*Conversation w/ Ludwig:* 7:34
- Market Basket Discussion: 07:44
- Shame & Learning New Things: 09:26
- Ludwig's Confidence: 14:28
- The "Treadmill" Analogy: 17:14
- Asceticism & Deprivation: 21:20
- Gooning & Edging: 24:27
- Video Games & Immersion (Elden Ring): 26:09
- Getting Lost in Activities (Tokyo Vice, Shogun, Dota 2): 28:26
- Balancing Dota 2 & Writing a Book: 29:18
- Unpublished Book & Dr. K's Writing Process: 35:06
- Success vs. Striving: 36:06
- Should vs. Want & Quitting Video Games: 39:00
- Dr. K's Medical School Experience: 41:56
- 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Sponsorship: 44:34
- European Emergency Numbers: 46:58
- Understanding Flow State: 47:49
- Flow State & Urination: 50:23
- How to Live Life: 57:57
- Running Out of Content & New Experiences: 59:19
- Female Sociopathy & Bullying: 1:06:29
- Clenching Fists & Aggression: 1:13:26
- Dr. K's Responsibility & Tiredness: 1:15:14
- Dr. K's Wants & Desires: 1:19:32
- Healthy Gamer's Purpose & Dr. K's Role: 1:20:31
- Winnie the Pooh & Regret: 1:26:18
- Defining Regret: 1:28:10
- Avoiding Regret & The Precautionary Principle: 1:29:29
- Technical Difficulties (Discord Server Change): 1:30:04
- The Illusion of Control & Accepting Responsibility: 1:32:28
- Dr. K's Attempts to Save People: 1:41:03
- Flow State & Avoiding Responsibility: 1:41:19
- Dr. K's Burnout Point: 1:45:07
- Crafting an Enjoyable Day-to-Day: 1:48:44
- The Midlife Crisis: 1:50:36
- Eric Erickson's Stages of Development: 1:51:45
- Living in the Present Moment: 1:52:32
- The Illusion of External Solutions: 1:54:06
- The Thousand Day Bakery: 1:58:44
- Zen Tradition & The Impermanence of Creation: 1:59:16
- The Joy of Making vs. Having: 2:00:01
- Majora's Mask & Living in 3-Day Cycles: 2:05:59
- Book/Show Recommendations: 2:17:24
- Ludwig's Japan Trip: 2:23:18
- Outro & 988 Outro: 2:24:42
OHHH...so THAT'S how you guys make timestamps!!!
@@pp8193 ....how?
@@zugrath16 While they're watching it for the first time, they just keep jotting down the topic changes.
Initially, I thought they watch streams like twice or thrice. And some streams on youtube last, like, 6 hours and they STILL have timestamp videos and I used to think "YOU WATCHED THIS VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES??".....uhh no. I was dum.
They just jot them down while enjoying the video/stream in the first time itself.
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"Penises and pregnancy are very tightly correlated"
The scholars of 21xx are going to have a tough time cracking this one 🤔
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God he's such a goldmine 😂
Thank you.
I love every time Dr K has Lud on the stream. Ludwig is such a good listener and truly is willing to listen and learn. I hope that he has him on here again.
The 1st healthy gg video I watched was your first time having Ludwig on. You 2 have a great chemistry in these conversations. Thanks to both of you for what you do!
This conversation connected a lot of dots that have been floating around in my head for months now. Questions like how much effort should I be putting into life, what do I do when I can't live up to the standards that I set for myself, what do I do when I feel like I've fucked myself by being lazy in the past. I've been ruminating a lot on the difficulty of life and how that relates to the idea of putting in effort without expectations. I think this conversation covers these ideas from a really intriguing angle. The majoras mask analogy is really powerful to me, it felt like everything was building up so this sentiment could be expressed in that way
What time stamp did he talk about Majora's mask?
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If you enjoyed a lot of what dr.k talks about in here, a lot of reminds me of Zen Buddhism. It’s funny that Ludwig brought up Allan watts because he’s a great mind who has spoken on these topics extensively. The way of zen by Allan watts completely reshaped my view of work and effort and helped me sort out a lot of the “why?” In my life
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I really enjoy the conversations between Lud and Dr. K. The back and forth and just listening to everything really gets me to think. I hope there will be more Ludwig and Dr. K talks because I like the chemistry between you two
35:00 WHAT?! In school I would always get marked down points on essay questions because I would just answer in a few sentences that are straight to the point and accurately answer the question instead of wasting everybody's time coming up with paragraphs of word vomiting in past experiences of mine that have nothing to do with the actual question. Especially because I was in honors classes that expected you to do extra work for the sake of extra work, that was a single-handedly why my grades dropped in school and I stopped caring about it as much. After I got my first job I ended up just dropping out and getting my GED ahead of when I would have graduated anyway. I had done the calculations while I was wasting away a class and realized how much money I would be making
I found Doctor K Maybe 2 weeks ago going through a hard time in my relationship, will forever be grateful for the sense of relatability and pure conversations that have been had, that eventually helped me in so many ways and made me more in touch with myself and not afraid to feel.
You should reach out to Gotham Chess! He is working on becoming a GM right now, and a lot of his focus is on the mental aspects. Levy and you would have a great conversation!.
This would be awesome
I'm 6 months late for this comment, but being a huge fan of both HG and Gotham, I agree with this even now.
I'm 27, so around same age as Ludwig. I also worry about stuff like he does. I work as a 3D character animator. I love it so much. I'm also overwhelmed at times by all the different creative projects I want to do, I want to pour my heart into, I like writing and I wanna write stories, I want to make independent productions on my own, blah blah blah. It scares me, this idea, that not all of my ambitions and designs and passion projects and desires will be fulfilled. I don't want to let my ideas down. I don't want to give half of myself. I want to give my entire creative self to this existence, but also I'm just a person and I face burn out and I have to work on non-passion project things to survive and I also enjoy that too.
But I do know that I'm a passionate person; I won't let things slip if I really want them to exist for me. Of course in general, I wouldn't like to neglect the things that I want to do. But it's also not up to me to write every detail of my life and have it go justly accordingly to plan. At some level, I have to sacrifice what I want so that what can be can be. A lot of the great things in my life now were completely out of my control and scope before they got here, and so did my desires adjust thereafter.
Keep a log of your past goals and plans, and revisit it from time to time to see if it holds true. Even for small personal projects, I end up dropping most of them. I outgrew them!
Ludwig reversing to the therapist role and saying “let me think about that” killed me 😂
my 2 favorite content creators ever are having a discussion that opens my mind and reminds me to re-focus my mind on what matters most; being content in everyday life, living day by day.
when u guys said that you're making contents that heals people, know that your contents heals at least 1 person (me lol)
so thankyou so much for putting these beautiful convo out here for people to see and hear :)
This is one of the most helpful and eye opening videos, I liked how ludwig asks and how he made Dr K think and talk about his life and feelings. I really find these 1-1 conversations to be super engaging and informative.
Ludwig's Majora's mask comparison just blew my fucking mind. That was a genius and dare I say perfect find!
Hope you all is learning as much as me since starting to watch these talks. Soon ill start to study again re-energized and chin up
I've been a fan of Dr. K for years and I've gotta say this is one of my favorite chats ever! It resonated with me so deeply and I just felt things click into place. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face and I'm so deeply thankful for all the work and events that came together to lead to this moment.
I'm glad to see that more and more streamer/viewer interviews are coming back. They're probably my favorite way to consume content on this channel, it provides you a deep amount of introspection when Dr. K mentions a new topic or new science you hadn't heard of; and provides you with a more humanizing view of others and yourself.
Thank you for bringing these people back on the channel, Dr. K!
I love when Ludwig is on with you Dr K. The discussions had usually feel very personal and vulnerable while being entertaining. I think this creates a dynamic that can resonate with me personally and a lot of the messages unearthed over the session can be applied to my personal life in a positive way. I hope to see more content with Ludwig in the future it’s truly a gift each time.
Timestamp: 2:08:39 1. self determination 2. self expression 3. importance and 4. effort = contentment, eudemonic happiness
12:32 寒い (samui) for when *you're* cold, 冷たい (tsumetai) for when *something* is cold!
(use samui for the weather being cold though)
yea but that isnt so important for communication. everyone will understand. but easy to remember its like bored vs boring. I am bc i feel, vs It is out like an aura.
@@Kurobeau sure but there are people who want a little more than just being understood, so i figured i’d try to explain it to the best of my ability (which was hard cause i just understand it without thinking abt it 😅 so i appreciate you chiming in)
I've always heard 冷たい explained as something that is cold to the touch. I think it's easier to remember that way.
寒い is weather
冷たい is touch
1:58:38 Yes! I try explaining this as "unhappiness is a choice". You can take any situation as a reason to mope around, feel sorry for yourself, and get sympathy, but who does that help? What does that solve? Just move on to the next happy
I randomly saw a short featuring Ludwig explaining what's gooning😂 Ended up watching the entire thing, you really have a lot of interesting perspectives, and I couldn't help but listened them!
32:20 THIS! It is actually so easy to learn literally anything you want as long as you don't expect it to happen overnight and enjoy the process. I effectively taught myself parkour and became one of the world's best athletes for a time, taught myself Japanese as well as how airlines work so I could take a flight to Japan and backpack across the country, and after my bills started getting more expensive and I tore my ACL I decided to learn how to rap because I always appreciated the lyricism of artists like Eminem
Thanks Dr. K and Ludwig, I rarely comment but just wanted to express my gratitude. I'm studying for my finals just before my thesis year in Elec Eng and I've been listening to this convo before starting my study for the day. I already have a sticky note of 'Delay Failing' on my wall from your ADHD video, but rehearing this expression of kinda the same concept was just what I needed right now. Just take one day at a time, Today is Today, and Tomorrow is just another Today!
Lud's description and definition of "gooning" was so clear and elegant that it IMMEDIATELY made me want to mail him a dictionary.
I just want to say that even though I’m not a gamer, finding Dr. K’s content has really made a deep impact on me. Definitely a life changing impact. Almost every time that I listen to him I feel incredibly seen and understood even though he has no idea who I am. And every time I learn something that makes me understand my own inner life so much better. So thank you❤
Watched your episode on the Diary of a CEO podcast on my walk home this morning after dropping my son off from school. I cried at the end with what you said about your kids. It's so relatable. Ordered your book today. I would love to know more about your meditative practices as well. What you say about meditation reminds me of a book I read a long time ago "Meditation As Medicine" by Guru Dharma Singh Khalsa M.D.. He speaks about meditation from the perspective of an endocrinologist.
Best wishes to you and your familia!
You would love everything he has to say about meditation. There’s a lot you can find probably by searching healthygamer meditation on youtube
He's got a Meditation Module you can get on his website, I just started it and it's pretty great!
welcome to the community! Healthy gamer has loads of resources, including meditation
Thanks everyone for the welcome and suggestions!
Haha he uploaded a video today you might like
might be my favorite interview on this channel, the ludwig ones always end up being so fascinating for some fucking reason
A conversation between Dr. K and Gotham Chess would be great. He’s training to become a GM and his biggest barrier is the mental aspect
I honestly can't express how insightful these streams with Ludwig have been. The other guests are also helpful and interesting to see, but the "mundane" side is something that kinda falls to the side for many of them. Ludwig seems like a dude who mostly has it all together in a way I'd like to believe I too do - meaning he has very similar problems.
That last bit of conversation about Majora's Mask and day 1-2-3 suddenly made it click for me as to how I can enjoy my job more (it's pretty inconsistent as of currently). The way they spoke about streamers not getting breaks - the exact feeling/problem I also face as a student (and at work). They made me realise that I'm currently not cut out for that. They also made me very hopeful towards my mental improving after uni because of this. Hands down the best conversation (for me in my situation) in a long while.
YES the two legends are finally back! I love the conversations you two have ALWAYS!
Wow it's nice to see someone ask you the kinds of questions you usually ask
13:36 knowledge is not a path, it's a field. Just because you don't know a particular thing doesn't mean you are dumb. When somebody knows something that you don't the odds are that you know things they don't as well. Nobody knows everything, that's why we have encyclopedias and the internet
"there must be a biological mechanism that unlocks the flow state"
Dr. K has been reading Dune
The biological mechanism is a tonne of spice obviously
Dr. K has helped me a lot just by watching his videos that are free to watch on You tube. This was a impressive video to watch never the less thanks Ludwig & Dr. K.
"How good of a strategy do you think it is to live a life of avoiding regrets".
I love this and am gonna use this forever
I think Ludwigs biggest strength is he is a very honest liar. In that, he will lie but follow up almost instantly with the truth. However, sometimes he draws it out, so you're always engaged in what he's saying, waiting for the other shoe to drop.
34:30 this is the proper way to look at it. I don't necessarily think that enjoying a video game or watching a movie is wasting time but it should be something you are conscious of. When I look back at some of the competitive games I've put hundreds of hours into I kind of laughed at the fact that if I could have taken that energy and applied it more towards my Japanese studies I'd be easily fluent
Ive been watching you for a few months just really taking on that journey of understanding not only myself and others but slowly the world as a whole and how everything is connected. Side note Terrence Howard’s onto something
Dr K bringing out his psych reading folder like a kid showing his friend his Pokemon binder 😂
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So good, right?! 👌🏽😄
Dr. K just know this man we all appreciate what you do! When you stop you will not be forgotten ❤
I love how intellectual this conversation became and that the contradictory nature of it is really just min-maxxing the understanding of the game of life. : )
2:26:30 that was great especially
"You can't be paralyzed today just because you could be making a mistake"
37:00-39:00 I personally think a good example of really close opposites are love and hate, really intense feelings for a person that make you act that won't go away easily, you have that person in your mind at times that even you don't really want.
but at the end of the day those feelings are kinda opposites.
Ludwig touching his Anja chakra during the conversation about Dr k's responsibility is actually so amazing after subscribing to Dr k's content.
is it his forehead?
I realized something about the flow state a while ago, flow state I always find is a state of comfortability, thats not saying what your doing isn't challenging but if you can see a path through it you can get into a flow state.
Two examples are writing and fighting, when you write if your not well versed on your material then you feel lost or its really slow going, if i research and research and research and then start writing i can write for days, all the paths of thought I was building up comes out in a flow. An important note is that flow state doesn't mean things will be good, that comes with skill, flow is more a state of mind.
Fighting is another example, when facing an opponent that you don't fear but don't look down on your brain can get comfortable, seeing paths for attacks and defence, you might still lose to an opponent thats not in flow state if they are just better but still you will make flow state.
Being able to turn on and off flow state i think is an important skill cause it lets you do shit faster, and we all need some extra time
wow i typed that before doctor K got very far and he just says this lmao
You have no idea how good it made me feel to hear you, someone I look up to and view as a person who takes their work very seriously and is admired by a lot of people for it, say that you ignored your work to play dota all day. That really opened my eyes to the fact that these things are normal and I'm not lesser for succumbing to the same
Caught a quick snippet of the live and decided to watch the entire stream a couple days later...
It was really intriguing, thanks for making it!
I've been a viewer for many years and the part I always enjoyed most is Dr Ks experience with the eastern religions/philosophys. I understand that "Dr KS guide to Buddhism" sikt coming soon, but one video I would love is a Dr K approved reading list to learn more about eastern thinking etc. It's so a category that is so full with humbug that it's really hard to navigate what is good and bad source material.
Such an amazing and eye opening conversation! These talks are so gooood! Love learning from these
It is really inspiring learing about living your life without avoiding regrets. I think I was trying to live like this most of the time, but everyone around always said: "don't do that, because you will regret it. It's not worth it" and so on. Glad I ignored them 😂
This was a lovely video, your conversations with ludwig are always very personally insightful to me.
How many people would watch if Ludwig would stream the process of starting a bakery and teaching everyone the steps of how to start a bakery. Everything from business perspective to actually baking stuff.
This talk really inspired me to set an hour aside to get some things sorted on my day off. Really made me feel a lot better about relaxing the rest of the day, which I would have done anyways. Thanks a lot Dr.K and Ludwig 😁
I am so grateful for Dr K and I’m somehow reminded of it most times I watch one of his streams
That part about gooning left me cry laughing on the floor.
1:19:00 Love how Ludwig mimicked Dr.K, asking what normally Dr.K asks other streamer.
He did it a few times during the interview
Dr K I can listen to you everyday. Fun and I can tell you enjoy what you do. Well done my friend🧡
As someone who tends to overthink and dwell too much on the future this has been extremely helpful with how i view my life. Thankful for Dr.K and the informational content as usual
29:16 Ludwig and Dr. k switch roles
Yall really gotta get together more. Easily my favorite Dr. K interviews
Ludwig had the same reaction as me hearing the "When I wake up tomorrow, I will have more energy". Good shit.
9:50 I never understood lacking confidence to learn new things. People seem scared to be bad at something when that's literally how you start being good at something
11:16 Yes! I hate that people do this! Or they'll just joke that they'll be bad so they won't try. Just, ugh, im trying to have fun!
11:46 Luckily you don't need to be very good at Japanese to survive. I backpacked across the country with absolutely no plans and it was fairly simple
30:22 I do this. It's only bad if you overdo it and end up with essentially decision paralysis and waste your time doing nothing for fear of using your time in valuable. Becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
57:57 great question from ludwig about what we should live life by if not shoulds
1:54:30 the relationship baggage analogy dr. k uses later is great
The first question contains the answer:
"What should I do, if not living by shoulds?"
He's asking for a "should"
Love you Ludwig, love you Dr K! Its kinda cool seeing Ludwig go from a streamer playing games with friends to being a boss and struggling with that responsibility and having a fellow human talk about the ins and outs of what that means. Thanks this has been helpful for me too
17:51 I think what he means by "work out" is that there really won't be any of the negative consequences or things he's fearing
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Always forward, never ever backward!!
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I didnt really know what to expect from Ludwig, But this was really insightful.
Thankyou Dr.K and Ludwig.
Hi, maybe it's just my perception, but I like that DrK is taking conversation to more meta level. It is less profitable for us ADHD bros, but for general population it is very profitable. I like the difference between strict plans what to do step by step and meta goals what to aim for for a better success. Thank you.
Same thing Ludwig , after playing osrs for years I looked back and lost so much time to be productive and grind irl. Havent logged in months, got in the gym & my whole daily routine has changed. I have no desire to even start my pc anymore , the happiness does not compare !
This was awesome. Love ludwig's questions. Felt good to see the seats switched haha
Interesting thing Dr K talks about understanding and living your life with understanding, but also says that no one knows if he's gonna regret things a year from now
The work you do is amazing ty for the fresh perspectives
Love how Ludwig turned the tables and kinda started interviewing Dr K.
2:19:06 I do similar with movies. Re-watching isn't for me. I need to forget elements
This was really a blast.....luv Ludwig for asking Dr K all the questions ❤
the part about regret was golden! :) thanks for that
Book suggestion for BOTH Ludwig and DR K "zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance". It will scratch the itch for both. The physical book is good, but honestly the older readings of the audiobook are also amazing, just be sure whichever source you get also includes the prologue at the end. It is a book any man should go through on regular intervals in their life
I'm intrigued! Woman here, but always keen to expand my understanding :)
Been puttin this off, but glad I came back. Seen enough shorts clips of the stream, and I remembered how Dr K did such a good job talking to him last time he came on. Can definitely feel my ego... the urge to see a tall poppy brought back to earth is STRONK.
Hmmm, the eureka moment felt facetious somewhat... but we're on different journeys, so will have different lessons. Glad to see you both doing well, and best of luck in y'alls future endeavours :D
55:16 Is it weird if i don't have this part of ego? Like, I'm playing for me and my fun. Almost winning is still a win to me! Enjoy the process!
What a great conversation this was.
Dog, trying to tie Plato’s Allegory of the Cave to Gooning is WILD 😂😂😂 Amazing
How does every conversation that Dr.K has with ludwig start with ludwigs shirt
Love that Ludwig got Dr. K in the hot seat for a while :)
the hedonic treadmill is the one lud was talking about, it works for positive and negative events
Just a beautiful dialog between two beautiful men. I just respect that so much! Keep doing what you're doing)
While the streams, meditations, and the knowledge and insight HAVE been helping. I still feel I haven't had that switch happen in my brain, yet? I still have floods of thoughts, impulses I feel I can't control, and times of running away and self destruct only for me to regret it later once I have calmed down. Probably bipolar.
Thank you Dr. K for investing your time in the well being of those of less mental stability.
hi! this sounds like me (with pbd) so ill offer what has flicked a big switch for me. i started doing simple breathing practises, then the vim hof method and then my favourite which is the breathing method to release dmt. im not exactly sure what it does or why it works. maybe give these a try couple of times. i have bpd and my symptoms have lessened greately for the day i do the practise and its beginning to affect the next days too when i do it with intention and properly. i wish good things to you, maybe this helps you
@@zodsi I will research those methods and see if any work, on the shit life syndrome stream a couple days ago, I did the meditation section at the end for the first time and along with other chatters in the chatroom I noticed I began to cry, as others stated. I googled and found it is normal and just means I'm releasing emotional tension.
While in the moment it works, so quickly I can hear, or experience, or even think of something that can quickly spiral and all of a sudden im in a dark dungeon until some other thought or experience takes me out. I'm always self aware, but the shit just happens.
I believe more exercise, or pursuing a hobby could help release all of the build up shit in me so I can kind of just "ring" it out of me like a wet towel. I personally don't believe in medication, I just have to take things a day at a time, sometimes an hour at a time.
Thanks for the advice and insight.
Become comfortable with the chaos. Instead of trying to "fix" your thoughts, and "cure" yourself, accept that your thoughts exist. They're trying to help you. Don't force them down or away, look at them objectively. Before long, your mind will learn that you respect it's opinion, and won't need to attack you with thoughts to get attention. Like training a dog or a child, if you fight it... it will learn to fight back.
1:10:30 My friend work in the education field and I often heard from her that teaching girl school differs from teaching boys school. In girl school there are a lot of reading the room, the ostracizing will come when you fail to read the room too many times and then they don't want to deal with you or on some extreme case physical bullying. Often time they also wage proxy war thus the badmouthing.
I actually wonder how was the aggression categorized in the study (whether its by intention or of other factor etc) because I wonder whether in their POV they see it as aggression or was it through the lens of others. Also I wonder how much of that was also affected by anxiety since you said its more prevalent for women.
My own personal conspiracy theory is that its part of evolution since in the past the women often socialize when they work (eg washing laundry in the river or weaving etc) and they have to also be on guard for weirdos that could snatch their kids away thus there are a lot more vibe check.
I think that is also the reason why they bully those that are prettier as it might threaten their social position which in turn their children (eg in polygamy situation or harem) or use they will use their pretty advantage to lever in social structure. I also think maybe that is why proxy war is more common as almost across all culture there are more pressure for women to keep their image as pure or innocent.. thus the weapon of choice is to destroy another person image and in turn killing their social life/presence.
i’m actually crying at ludwig teaching him about gooning
Odd bit of history. Mark Twain is often attributed with saying, "I didnt have time to write a short letter, so here is a long one" but the original quote is Bliase Pascals 1657, "I have only made this letter longer because I have not had the time to make it shorter."
This is probably my favorite stream because Ludwig absolutely cooks the best questions