Erdoğan's Dream of an Ottoman-like Empire | How We Got Here
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- It seems that the days of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's rule in Turkey are slowly coming to an end. The man who has been at the helm of Turkish politics for two decades recently announced that the upcoming local elections later this month will be his last. In this episode of How We Got Here, host Jan Darasz and guest Adam Michalski, Research Fellow in the Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia Department at the Centre for Eastern Studies, discuss whether the Turkish President has succeeded in making his country an empire again. Who will replace President Erdogan when his reign is over? What future does Turkey have? Answers to these and other questions are found in this episode of How We Got Here.
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Let me put it straight gentlemen, Mr. Erdogan needs a majority of more than 360 votes to start an early election according to our constitution. His alliance has only 313 members in the Parliament. He also needs 360 votes to only take the renewal of constitution to a public referendum. If you want to change the constitution without referendum you need more than 400 votes in The Turkish Parliament. You should better do your research before commenting on such issues. By the way i did not know that the Polish people were so hostile against us, Turks. What did Erdogan do to you? Are you telling us that he made a big mistake by sending Bayraktar TB-2s to Poland? 🤔 You really made me think about Poland again, congratulations 👏🏻.
these journalists are bias and serving us interests so their view on TR is not surprizing
da fuck? How is this expert hostile to Erdogan?
Excellent expert 👍🏻 Turkish rise is the most remarkable rise in the Middle East and West. All the other rising. powers are from the far east. He transformed Turkey economically and geopolitically.
They rise on their own, without oil - that's because they aren't Arabs.without oil, that's because they aren't Arabs.
Did he transform Turkey economically? He took Turkey while we had 120 billions of dollars debth. And now we have almost 500 billion dollar debth. 80 years of Turkish republic all governments made 120 billion dollar debth. And in 20 years Erdogan made 380 billion dolar debth. If I buy you a house that worttsh 1 million and leave you debth of 2 million. Would you consider that I transformed you to something better? ))))
@darkprofile Compare this now to the US $60 trillion debt, and even the small economy of Canada, which has a $2 trillion debt, thanks to money spent on wars.
I think 500 billions is rather a bargain, some Russian oligarchs worth more than that a companies like Apple and Nvidia are valued at other 2 trillions.
Tell me what more Erdogan can do, without oil and constant sanctions, earthquakes that ravage the economy.
Many European countries envy Turkey's economic growth, Turkish companies work non stop with expansion of Turkey in Africa, East Asia and South America with more to come
@@synaestesia-bg3ew Do you have any economy education?))) Seems like hou haven’t got. How can you compare USA and Turkey? USA has the reserve money which they can control the value pf the currency. How USA manage such debth? Because they export dollars to the pther countries. Turkey collect taxes in lira not in dolöar. So 500 billion dollar debth is not managable if you cant control the value.
I asked you a simple question. You didnt answer. If I give you 1 million dollar house and 2 million dollar debth would you accept it?
Everything Erdogan dona was done by debth for inefficient prices.
@darkprofile I understand your hatred for Turkey. You were probably oppressed economically or ethnically, if you are part of a minority. You really want your point to be heard.
I don't completely blame you. The economic model that Erdogan is implementing in Turkey is unorthodox and has harmed the middle class, which may be why you decided to leave.
You probably think that life is better elsewhere, but what could be worse than accumulating debt and investing it in your own country to improve security and industry, as opposed to sending your mone to another country?
What do you think? And regarding the debt, Turkey's current debt is 462 billion as of December 2023, which is much lower than the trillions owed by others.
Think about it, 1 trillion 1, 000 billions. I think that 462 billions to improve Turkey is well spent.
Hakan Fidan the next Turkish leader Inshallah someone righteous that knows Islam and can deal with politics 😎🇹🇷
İnshaAllah brother 🤲 Hakan Fidan is a real good man But grandchild from Ulu Hakan Sultan Abdülhamid Han the Ottoman Prince Orhan Osmanoğlu would be my greatest wish as a successor
Because of his Grandfather but I think it will never happen…..
Turkey is and will always be secular.
Türkiye laiktir, laik kalacak!
Those who present the Ottoman Empire as a country to be feared are Europe and the USA, and their elected leaders. The reason is very simple, the fear of the exploited places becoming independent. Even though slavery has ended in the USA and the EU mainland, efforts to keep it alive continue very ambitiously throughout the world.
And Orban also wants Hungarian Empire to come back
Hungarians are Turkic people. He's just digging deep Into his roots.
Hungarians are Uralic,not Turkic.@@simpledude5974
@@simpledude5974los húngaros no son turcos
*Austro-Hungaro
Hi's Mr Erdoğan Legend..❤
Bravo sultan Erdogan and AKP
Thank you very much 🇹🇷🌹🌷
You missepelled “Turkiye”.
Erdogan has desired for Turkey to revive its Ottoman-like Empire status in time for its 100year fall anniversary ... it's missed that mark but still the desire is there. Turkey will play a role in the Middle East affairs and beyond ... they seem to sitting comfortably with NATO membership and friendship with the likes of Russia and Iran.
NOT TURKEY IT'S TÜRKİYE
Erdowan's last? So he says.
We don't have "elites". We have elected representatives and public servants and commercial sector.
Is Poland still a feudal society?
Or are you talking about Olympic champions and nobel prize winners perhaps?
Elites can be oligarchs, or anyone who has influence on the country, economy, etc. Because Turkey is influenced by religious extreme folks, they have problems with western values. Simply because of suppressing freedom of speech.
Last elections showed how many Poles are pro-EU, certainly they are not feudal society.
Your social structure sure does have elites....who runs your most prized institutions of the government, learning, and corporations???? Thinks about how many of them are run by his hand picked few.....you're welcome for the food for your thoughts.
The Ottoman empire is a taboo subject in Turkey? How odd.
Because Imperialism is not working anymore. All Imperias has fall. So new Ottoman empire idea means destroying Turkey with ambitions and foolish dreams.
Atatürk ❤
Sultan Abdülhamit Han 🇹🇷❤️
@@Berkehan35 gemiye binen dimi o?
@@BGpomakTRMustafa Kemalı asker yapan 😏
@@cemoz579 sonrada gemiye bindi Paris gitti:) hatirlamamiz lazim ülkeyi padisah sultan kurtarmadi :) 😀
@@BGpomakTR Atatürk mü kurtardı ? Ülkeyi yikanlarin bir kısmı kaçmış olsada bir kısmını lider olarak tayin ettiler.. nasıl Araplari liderleri önce Osmanlıya sonra sonra halkı kendi liderlerine karşı ayaklandirdilarsa aynı şey Osmanlı'da da oldu.. bircok hürriyet davası ile sultan karşıtı yazılar kaleme alan sairlerin şiir ve yazıları herşeyi acikliyor.. 2024 ve durum halen ayni. Kendi cikarlari için calisanlan liderleri destekleyen ama bunu reddeden ozellikle müslüman liderlere diktatör etiketi yapistiran kisiler ile kızıl Sultan diyenler hep aynıydı herzaman da aynı kalacaklar.. Laheydaki mahkeme kararlarlarinin Rusya ve İsrail hakkındaki kararlarina.. Türkiye'ye soylirim yaptı deyip bugün İsraile savunma hakkı var demeside açık ve net bir şekilde herşeyi ortaya koyuyor.. ha Osmanlı'dan sonra bağımsızlık kazanan ulkelerden Yunanistana Britanya ,kral tayin etti ama Yunanlar kabul etmedi, demem o ki eğer birileri ile savaşa girip kazandiysan ülkeyi onların istedigi gibi yönetmek yerine mevcut olamsi gereken düzende durdurursun.. işgal edilen ülkelerin dilini dinini sanat ve kültürünü yasaklarsan işgal tam anlamı ile gerceklesmis olur.. gemiye bineni değil bindiren maşaları görmeni dilerim.. bolgeden çıkıp Ukraynaya baksan yine anlarsin mevcut düzenin herdaim nasıl tekerrur ettiğini oyuzen olaylardan uzak tutmak belli bir düşünceyi asilayip sonrada dusuncesizlestirek meydanı istediği gibi kullananlarin dönemi geçti. Yahudilerin ve hristiyan bile bazı şeylerin farkina varıp arastirak ve öğrenerek Müslümanliga geçtiği bir donemdeyiz.. tek gurur kaynağı "Türk olmak" olan ama bunu kişiliğine olarak yansıtmayanlar olduğu sürece daha çok kızıl Sultan ve diktatör diyecekleri liderimiz, önce gemiye bindirip sonrada bununla dalga gececek kuklalari olmakmak için dünyayı gezip görmek görmek ve olaylari karşılaştırmak gerek.. sana gemi dedirtenler halen Constantinepol ve Hagia Sofia hedeflerinden vazgeçmedi siyonislerin Kudüs'ten vazgeçmedikleri gibi üstelik yetmezmis gibi birde kendi halklarını göz göre göre öldürenlerin zerre umurlarinda değiliz hele söz konusu orta asya ise insan hakları dahi pek anlamsızlasiyor. Istersen tekrar bir düşün sonra devleti yıkan paşalar gibi aynı hezimete uğramanı istemem..
Iki kisi konusuyor, türkiye hakkinda yorum yapiyorlar aklisira, bizde, he he he dedik. Saygilar
Long live RECEP TAYYIB ERDOĞAN
Every Muslim is looking forward to revival of Ottoman Empire, InshaAllah.
HAKAN FIDAN
For us, the Türk's Reis Erdogan he will be forever in our hearts. Erdogan will give his hand to the new president, and we have if you qualified politicians Hakan Fidan , Ibrahim Kalin, and someone that can be surprise Selcuk Bayraktar, who knows but my opinion 1st choice is Hakan Fidan he is true State Man he knows Government rules and he will get even the opposite voters in his side he has potential to bring everyone together and Ibrahim Kalin will be the one of the best foreign minister this two will move to Türkiye fest forward , by the time they are in power Türkiye will be the military powerhouse and get their rightly place in the arms sales for the balance of the world. For example, if Türkiye will supply the African nations with high teach arms and jet fighters or drone, no one there to be bully them anymore
Speak for yourself. You don't represent the Turkish people.
Ulan MHP ile üst üste koyunca %52 alıyorsunuz ve kendinizi çoğunluk sayıyorsunuz. Erdogan bu ülkeyi 120 milyar dolar dış borçtan alıp 500 milyar dolar dış borca getirdi. Şimdi o borçlar ödenirken göreceğim vatandaş ne hale düşecek.
Konuşmacı resmen MI 6.
Hakan Fidan is our next President
Yep 👍
Nobody chooses him, Anyway, they have 1 million troll feeds, suck it up, their press money is in the central bank, unfortunately, there is no justice media, no law, it has been destroyed,
Turan profiled person, Turkey sent the steel wires so that ISRAEL would blockade PALESTINE, your chieftain is sending them, all of Turkey has learned about the chieftain's love affair with ISRAEL, except for trolls like you,
Are you guys, gonna let free ,the island of Cyprus..?
Nope. Turkish side will be stay on Turkish side. Cypriot Greeks told no to Annan plan and they lose their chance.
With your permission let me ask a few question.
Let's assume Erdogan does not participate in the next elections, Do you think his party will not nominate a candidate to participate in the elections instead of Erdogan?
When a very experienced politician retires, wouldn't he choose the person who will take over his crown?
Couldn't it be that this elected crown prince is already being trained and introduced to the state administration?
Moreover, aren't preparations being made to ensure a smooth transition and the heir's accession to the throne without any problems?
Erdogan may be many things, but he is not stupid. If you don't believe it, ask Hakan Fidan. :)
Erdogan created a one man regime. So it doesn't matter who will be in charge. Turkey will never become more democratical. And in authoritarian regimes economy fall and at the end country falls. Look at name of his party. Justice and Developement party. At the end we have 500 billion dollar debth, our economy has inflation like 90's and justice of Turkey is worse that it ever was.
So it doesn't matter whom Erdogan will point at. That person will be like a King without any restrictions and balance system.
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He does not have such an intellectual and moral capacity to be a sultan at all. He is after his and his family’s future and fortune. To his credit, he is an influential speaker through which he has succeeded to hipnotize people to vote for him but those days are almost over since he failed Turkey and its economy. People get to know his real face more and more everyday.
Turkey's economy has been growing for the last 14 quarters.
What a slander, lies...Shame on you for these lies without any ground.
@@nathanruben3372 I am a Turk. And this is completely true. Erdogan is just a propoganda genius nothing more. In his 20 years of rule he made 360 billion dollars international debth himself. Before him in 80 years all the previous governments combine made 120 billion dollar international debth. And in 80 years of progress before Erdogan Turkish economy growth was avarage %4,5. And Erdogan's period avarage economical growth was %4. He made 3 times more debth while making less economical avarage growth. He took Turkish Statistics Institute and changed their name and working process. The Government Institute who calculates all statistics about Turkey. And they started to use different formulas to calculate inflation, economical growth and GDP per capita and manpower statistics. Every year they changed the formula to make more progress on paper. Today noone believe those statistics anymore. And even people who voted Erdogan are turning against him.
Best president ever ❤
Same things were said about Turgut Özal who became the prime minister after the military coup of 1980. He had the approval and the support of the military coup leaders. He was a Thatcherite and his motto was “making Turkey the little America.” Selling off public economic institutions -privatization- was his main policy. This was in a way a precursor to what happened in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union when government owned enterprises were looted by the oligarchs. Erdoğan is the continuation of Özal and his party: In Özal’s case the trauma that brought him to power was 1980 military coup and in Erdoğan’s case it was the İzmit Earthquake of 1999 in which the government looked weak vis-a-vis the destruction it caused. Erdoğan’s party was founded in conjunction with the Greater Middle East Project of the Neocons. He admitted to being one the leaders of the Greater Middle East project in several occasions. He enjoyed a period of abundance of global credit availability and Erdoğan’s government was showered with this until the global financial crisis of 2008. He sold off all government owned enterprises and racked a huge sovereign debt. Easy money has been the key for the longevity of his grip on power. The astronomical inflation figures of late have been in the making for a very long time. Likening Erdoğan to Atatürk would make Özal roll in his grave and anger the ones who see the events as what they really are.
Erdogan Made Turkiye great again.
😂
I was really surprised about the speaker and the commenter. They were objective and right minded when compared with the other westerners held the same topic. If I am not wrong they omitted a very powerfull objective of caliphate to discuss. The region where Türkiye is only convenient for very powerfull states like in the era of Rome and Ottaman close to 2000 years. In order to achive this without dreaming about an emperial state is reastablishing caliphate system.
Allahuakbar
for these guys who surprised about the rise of Türkiye I want to say something to you: Actually the church, Europe, Asia, always feared us Turks. Turks often leaded world in the last 2.000 years not just one time like all the others like Egypt, Greece, Persia or Roman Empire. Thanks God we succesfully beware perception, pride and our heart. And our heart don't accept more the unjustice in black africa, hispanic world, islamic world and killing of innocent people. Nothing to do with Erdogan. Erdogan is just succesfull on this way and God save him.
Nereye 2000 yıldır yönetiyor senin kafan mı güzel. Madem yönetiyordu topraklarının yüzde 90ını niye kaybetti.
Dreams IS FREE ?????
RECEP TAYYİP ERDOĞAN is a very big President of TÜRKİYE ALLAH Bless him and gives a very Long Life 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷❤️❤️❤️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Turkey was insignificant country without much weight in 1990 2000. Endogah has changed and improved Turkey. Turkey is becoming a technology developing country. He did so many things that improved social daily life, goverment etc. He did his best, far better than all his prede cessors. Turks should be thanfil to him.
Gdp per capita growth? A good measurement for propaganda video... At least you should show real gdp per capita growth.
They also don't tell how Erdogan transformed Turkish Statistics Institute who publish official statistics about Turkey. Every year they change formulas to calculate statistics to show progress on paper. If 25 years ago the formules which they are using now was used too, Turkey could have been seen richer on paper.
@@darkprofile Nobody wants to resurrect the Ottoman Empire, but we want to be stronger, as everyone would want. That's why I called it "propaganda video". On the other hand, the method of preparing data in economics is always the same, please do not make things up. Moreover, nominal per capita income is not a good indicator because it is affected by the decrease or increase in prices within the country. Therefore, it is more accurate to use real gdp per capita term.
@@alihanaydogdu6158 Kardeşim nasıl istatistiki yöntemler aynı. 2008 öncesi ile 2008 sonrası hesaplama değişti arada %30 fark var. Bir senede kişi başı gelir 2500 dolar arttı. Senin yaşın yetmiyor herhalde hatırlamaya. Erdoğan öncesi kişi başı gelir ve Türkiyenin ekonomik büyüklüğünden bahsedildiğinde %30 üzerine koy.
Aynı şekilde işsizlşk hesaplama yöntemi de değişti. 2014 te işsizlik istatistiklerinin hesaplama şekli değişti. Eski istatistikle arada 2 puan farketti ilk senede.
Oysa yeni sistemde isrihdam azalırken işsizlik de azaldı.
Çünkü son 6 ay içinde iş kura başvurarak iş aramayanlar işsiz sayılmıyor. Ülkede hem okumayan hem çalılmayan 2,5 milyon genç var ve işsizlik hesabına dahil değiller eğer işkurda her 6 ayda bir kayıt yenilemiyorlarsa.
Bu yüzden çalışan insan sayısı azalıyor ama işsizlik artmıyor işsizlik de azalabiliyorz
Son olarak enflasyonu düşürmek için durmadan sepet oranını değiştiriyorlar.
Eski sistemle enflasyon hesaplansa %60 gelen enflasyon %130 gelirdi.
Ya ekonomiyi hiç takip etmiyorsun ya da iktidara o kadar saplantılı bağlanmışsın ki direk yalan söylüyorsun.
@@alihanaydogdu6158 Uzun uzun yazdım ama silinmiş. Ekonomil istatisrik hesaplamalarının hepsi değişti. Muhtemelen senin yaşın yetmiyor. 2008 de milli gelir hesaplama yönteöi değişti bir senede kişi başı gelir ve toplam ekonomik büyüklük %30 arttı. 2014 ve 2021 de işsizlik hesaplama yöntemi değişti. Enflasyon hesaplama sepetini her ay değiştiriyorlar.
@@darkprofile Lütfen kanıtı ile değişen şeyin ne olduğunu açıklayın. Eskiden nasılmış, şimdi nasılmış? Bunun harici söylediklerinizi ciddiye almıyorum, almayacağım da.
Ed is a dictator nothing else,,otto empire never will reign again. 😊
Erdogan just barking
You are only envious...
Why do they keep bringing up Ataturk when they want to attack Erdogan?They are trying to use Kemalist 😏
don't say anything to greeks.
You're obsessed with greeks 😂
god bless turkey 😎😎😎😎
I love Recep Tayyip Erdogan because he loves cats 🐈⬛ and there are rules there that treat cats as gods. Hooray Turkey 🇹🇷 🐱😻😽
Natomiast nienawidzą psów,bo kiedyś z nich ugryzł Mahometa w łydkę.
We 🇹🇷 treat all animals equally because of our Holy Qur'an
Unfortunately that's not the case.Recently a man kicked and killed a poor cat and the court didn't impose any convictions on him and let him free.That says a lot about the justice system.
@@mehmettemel8725 ye still using Ataturks CHP system Frances so called democracy Inshallah Shari'a comes 👳🇹🇷
@@mehmettemel8725 Karma will get that person 😾
Love and support endless Reis Sultan Recep Tayyip Erdoğan he is in Türkiye history our biggest Leader after our big Sultan Abdülhamid Han🤲❤️
Ottoman’s are back İnshaAllah 🤲