Turkey’s Influence on Bosnian Islam: Neo-Ottomanism Meets Post-Communism

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  • @cheksikkikoyyama5454
    @cheksikkikoyyama5454 2 роки тому +58

    We love Bosnians and we are ready to die for Bosnian freedom. Bosnia will freedom forever.

  • @mapache69.
    @mapache69. Рік тому +9

    Never understood why The Russians and Turks didn’t trade colonies. Russia should of ruled the Slavs, while the Turks ruled the Turkic People in Central asia

  • @rokiikor9270
    @rokiikor9270 Рік тому +31

    TURKIYE=BOSNIA=TURKIYE..No Nation loves TURKIYE more than BOSNIANS🇧🇦🇹🇷🇧🇦🇹🇷🇧🇦🇹🇷Always brothers OTTOMAN brothers

  • @jimmystewart3826
    @jimmystewart3826 Рік тому +17

    I just wanna say big respect ❤-like both country Turkiye-Bosnia Herzegovine country n turkiye-bosnian people , long live rep of turkie n rep of bosnia herzegovina , Bravo turkiye n bosnia

    • @kirksdva8310
      @kirksdva8310 9 місяців тому +2

      Bosnian is not Turkish ,. Ocupattor Ottoman impire During Ottoman Empire Turks taking smol kids from Cristian perent and goes to Turkey education in Islam and making soldiers from kids called janjicar .One of dem is Otman PASA Sokolovic . Pressure Cristian people by Tax Colled Harac .And people forsed to take Islam to survive.

    • @medinabecic2873
      @medinabecic2873 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kirksdva8310😂
      Was macht Christen schon mal daran gedacht

    • @pifi6618
      @pifi6618 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! They enforced people to become muslims. They brainwashed them. I hope this might change one day for poor Bosniaks. :/

  • @ssk9702
    @ssk9702 2 роки тому +46

    Ottoman sultans are BOSNIAN ☝️😎🇧🇦

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 роки тому +15

      Indeed Bosniaks were part of the empire. They are still part of Turkey and part of our culture. We love them and their influence.

    • @alenhuseinbasic899
      @alenhuseinbasic899 2 роки тому +12

      @@denizaran kanim kardesim, im bosnian, visiting istanbul in two weeks inshallah

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 роки тому +5

      @@alenhuseinbasic899 dobro dosli brate! I'm sure you will like it. I visited Sarajevo, Mostar and Neum 3 years ago and loved it. We're not tourists when we visit each others' countries. Which city are you from?

    • @alenhuseinbasic899
      @alenhuseinbasic899 2 роки тому +6

      @@denizaran Im from Mostar brother! Glad you enjoyed it alhamdulillah. I hope you will return and I'm looking forward to see more of Istanbul.

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 роки тому

      @@alenhuseinbasic899 do you use insta?

  • @TheGercek53
    @TheGercek53 2 роки тому +10

    Im Bosnian my self, every nation does this they fixes churches or mosques or old building lol

  • @haristhebosniaklion8584
    @haristhebosniaklion8584 Рік тому +7

    Yeah, it is very heroic what was done to Muslims in Bosnia,Iraq,Afghanistan ,Palestine,Syria, it takes such courage to bully people and nations who can’t fight back right ( Disgusting ) ,even tho I was rejected a lot and called ugly when it’s not my fault ( Poor Me ) I still feel bad for our Bosniak women and young girls during the aggression, ( YOU KNOW ) and nope ,I don’t hate on Serbian and American women/girls.❤️❤️. Justice and Peace for Muslims!!!!!☝️.I want GOOD to WIN over EVIL!!!!!!!!!!✌️

    • @syedrafi2258
      @syedrafi2258 8 місяців тому +2

      They will always be like this whenever they will be given chance they will do worse than it so never forgive and never forget and beware and protect your women

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 2 роки тому +7

    To Turkish my brothers , please request ur government to conduct function, celebration for restoring orthodox patriarchate in constantinnople by Mehmet - 2 in 1453 AD DECEMBER. This will make u and ur neighbours with prosperous.
    Because u r living side by side with orthodox people.
    The enemies from western world will be defeated.

    • @haristhebosniaklion8584
      @haristhebosniaklion8584 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, it is very heroic what was done to Muslims in Bosnia,Iraq,Afghanistan ,Palestine,Syria, it takes such courage to bully people and nations who can’t fight back right ( Disgusting ) ,even tho I was rejected a lot and called ugly when it’s not my fault ( Poor Me ) I still feel bad for our Bosniak women and young girls during the aggression, ( YOU KNOW ) and nope ,I don’t hate on Serbian and American women/girls.❤️❤️. Justice and Peace for Muslims!!!!!☝️.I want GOOD to WIN over EVIL!!!!!!!!!!✌️

    • @syedrafi2258
      @syedrafi2258 8 місяців тому

      Whole Europe is for them to make churches

    • @akbalushi4779
      @akbalushi4779 Місяць тому

      Right especially turkiye needs good relations with Greece love turkiye from Iran sistan ❤️🇹🇷

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 2 роки тому +21

    "The Ottamans set such a good example as pacific conquerors that they won the confidence of many former Byzantine subjects . For example , when Nicaea fell , Orhan allowed all who wanted to leave the city to depart freely , taking with them their holy relics , but few availed themselves of the chance . No reprisals were taken against those who had resisted , and the city was left to manage its internal affairs under its own municipal government . BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
    Pl spread this peace message to those who hate turkey

    • @Tricoma81
      @Tricoma81 Рік тому +9

      Ottomans pacific conquerors...!!???? 😳😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Jajajajjjjjjjjjj

    • @Syfonen
      @Syfonen Рік тому

      Lies. They were brutal rapists and killers.

    • @zahirhussain5913
      @zahirhussain5913 Рік тому +1

      @@Syfonen never. I have given Christian authors Evidence.i surprised that Few true and good authors are in Christian society especially in white world.

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 Рік тому

      LOL

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 Рік тому

      @@Tricoma81 Its Tuskish nationalist propaganda... In 10 years from now they'll be saying the Balkans attacked the Ottomans to justify new invasion

  • @turulszervac1714
    @turulszervac1714 10 місяців тому +9

    Good to see Ottoman style Islam still survives in Bosnia

  • @Zarghaam12
    @Zarghaam12 2 роки тому +5

    We love humanity and would die for human freedom!

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 11 місяців тому +5

    the sufferings and the agony of Balkan Muslims felt deeply by all the Muslim world and the Turks in particular, because the only reason for their sufferings simply because they are Muslims, wether they practice Islam or secular..

    • @syedrafi2258
      @syedrafi2258 8 місяців тому

      But Turks are secular as hell and think about individualism ,good to know that there there is a sense of Muslim brotherhood in them for bosnians

    • @jivanselbi3657
      @jivanselbi3657 8 місяців тому

      @@syedrafi2258 not only Bosnians, Albanians, generally Balkan muslims, you could say all Turks love Pakistan ..African muslims.. unfortunately I could not say the same for Arabs..though all the sensible practicing muslims among the Turks respect them, the negative propaganda used the first world war and some Arab tribes betrayel of the Ottoman army as pretext .. but things are changing اخس سيد رافع لا تحكم على الكل بسبب البعض

  • @Canadianpatriot2024
    @Canadianpatriot2024 8 місяців тому +3

    Allah akbar. Great that turkiye is back.

  • @dollynina8992
    @dollynina8992 2 роки тому +9

    3:20 I'm a Bosnian muslim and we were not oppressed by a communist state because we weren't even a communist state first of all.
    I can't speak for other religions, but Bosnian muslims lived pretty well in Yugoslavia.

    • @topmultichann6666
      @topmultichann6666 Рік тому +10

      as a Bosnian I dont agree and honestly I am suspicious on that "I'm a Bosnian Muslim" that you said, just for you to know Muslims were oppresed and if u had Muslim name you would hardly progress in life(uzmi Olovo na primjer) so Muslims often gave their kids non Muslim names...

    • @dollynina8992
      @dollynina8992 Рік тому

      @@topmultichann6666 de molim te, još gore je sad situacija nego kako je ikad bilo u Jugoslaviji. Moj dajđa prije nek sto poginuo u ratu je bio član socialisticka partija i prilićno uspješan čovjek u životu al se zvao Muhamed. Drugi muslimani su dali sprsko-hrvatsko imena jer su imali kompleks ispred srba i hrvata, bili su nekako stidljivi, i bi jeli svinjetino il' pili alkohol da se dokazuju sebe. Nije to bilo zbog ugnjetavanja od strane države, nego smo sami sebi ponižavljali.

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 2 роки тому +2

    ( i ). " The main reason for Ottaman success , however , was the development of stable and permanent institutions of government that transformed a tribal polity into a workable state ".
    ( ii ) " The Ottamans utilized all human resources in their emirate and quickly learned skills in bureaucracy and diplomacy ........ They also did not slaughter every Christian in their path ; rather , they encouraged the Christian inhabitants of the countryside and the towns to join them . Islamic law and tradition declared that enemies who surrendered on demand should be treated with tolerance .
    ( iii ). " The Christians of Bithynia were obliged to pay the ' harac ' , or capitation tax , for the privilege of being tolerated , but this was no more burdensome than the taxes they had paid to the Byzantine government , which had neglected their interests . Once they had made the decision to surrender or defect , the Byzantine population resigned to their fate ".
    " Some Christians converted to Islam upon joining the Ottamans ; however, this was not demanded . Many local Christians even participated in Ottaman raids against Byzantium ". BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
    "Existing sources , such as the 25th century Ottoman census records , suggest that the earliest converts to Islam in the Balkans came from the ranks of the Balkan nobility and military elite that could supply the Ottomans with the manpower ............. BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -146 .
    This is the reason for success in Balkan europe. So pl don't hate turkey. Be respectful

  • @tore705
    @tore705 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful mosques.
    Beautiful country.

  • @medinabecic2873
    @medinabecic2873 8 місяців тому +3

    Bračo Muslimansko 💚 💚 💚 💚

  • @mariocroatia9321
    @mariocroatia9321 2 роки тому +11

    If Turkey decides to come back to the Balkans.... All the people of the Balkans will rise up to fight them.

    • @zahirhussain5913
      @zahirhussain5913 2 роки тому +5

      ( i ). " The main reason for Ottaman success , however , was the development of stable and permanent institutions of government that transformed a tribal polity into a workable state ".
      ( ii ) " The Ottamans utilized all human resources in their emirate and quickly learned skills in bureaucracy and diplomacy ........ They also did not slaughter every Christian in their path ; rather , they encouraged the Christian inhabitants of the countryside and the towns to join them . Islamic law and tradition declared that enemies who surrendered on demand should be treated with tolerance .
      ( iii ). " The Christians of Bithynia were obliged to pay the ' harac ' , or capitation tax , for the privilege of being tolerated , but this was no more burdensome than the taxes they had paid to the Byzantine government , which had neglected their interests . Once they had made the decision to surrender or defect , the Byzantine population resigned to their fate ".
      " Some Christians converted to Islam upon joining the Ottamans ; however, this was not demanded . Many local Christians even participated in Ottaman raids against Byzantium ". BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
      "Existing sources , such as the 25th century Ottoman census records , suggest that the earliest converts to Islam in the Balkans came from the ranks of the Balkan nobility and military elite that could supply the Ottomans with the manpower ............. BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -146 .
      This is the reason for success in Balkan europe. So pl don't hate turkey. Be respectful

    • @zahirhussain5913
      @zahirhussain5913 2 роки тому +6

      Why do rise up to fight turkey ?
      "The Ottamans set such a good example as pacific conquerors that they won the confidence of many former Byzantine subjects . For example , when Nicaea fell , Orhan allowed all who wanted to leave the city to depart freely , taking with them their holy relics , but few availed themselves of the chance . No reprisals were taken against those who had resisted , and the city was left to manage its internal affairs under its own municipal government . BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
      Pl spread this peace message to those who hate turkey

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 роки тому +1

      It's not gonna happen

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 2 роки тому +8

      @@zahirhussain5913 that's crap.
      why would ex colonies rise up against the colonisers?

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 Рік тому

      @B B Maybe not you but Turkish nationalists do... And there are many of them

  • @tarik6990
    @tarik6990 2 місяці тому

    If Muslim foreigners (and of course Bosniaks) want to stick to Islam and pray to Allah, they are welcome to do so and nobody has the right to stop them. However, Muslim foreigners should not come to Bosnia and claim that Bosniaks have been historically Muslim while insinuating that Yugoslavia or "Western" post-Yugo influence made us stray away from the righteous way of life. The religious dynamic is subject to change in accordance with the changes in the political and cultural backdrop.
    When you go for instance to Arab countries, the first thing you do is adhere to Muslim societal norms, dress code (that affects almost exclusively women), moral code, etc., so, following the same logic, when you come to Bosnia-Herzegovina, a secular state, you have to adhere to local behavioral norms even if you deem them not to be islamic enough. Things like niqabs, as well as casual street preachers and salafist infleuncers oriented at a young audience was never a part of these norms.

  • @mateivancic7369
    @mateivancic7369 6 місяців тому +2

    Greets from the croats to the ottoman empire.
    We have a nice history together.😂

  • @allysoobratty7565
    @allysoobratty7565 Рік тому +5

    Long Live the OTTOMAN EMPIRE ❤❤❤

  • @ugur4511
    @ugur4511 5 місяців тому

    Christianity is not a European religion in origin. In fact, the Romans fought Christians for a long time. The religion of the southern part of Europe was a pagan religion of Greek origin. There was a different pagan understanding in the north, that is, in the lands where the Romans were less influential. At the end of the Roman period, there was a transition from paganism to Christianity. The people in the north later converted to Christianity.

  • @kimimiey2206
    @kimimiey2206 2 роки тому +9

    Ottoman empire come back

    • @haristhebosniaklion8584
      @haristhebosniaklion8584 Рік тому

      Yeah, it is very heroic what was done to Muslims in Bosnia,Iraq,Afghanistan ,Palestine,Syria, it takes such courage to bully people and nations who can’t fight back right ( Disgusting ) ,even tho I was rejected a lot and called ugly when it’s not my fault ( Poor Me ) I still feel bad for our Bosniak women and young girls during the aggression, ( YOU KNOW ) and nope ,I don’t hate on Serbian and American women/girls.❤️❤️. Justice and Peace for Muslims!!!!!☝️.I want GOOD to WIN over EVIL!!!!!!!!!!✌️

    • @kirksdva8310
      @kirksdva8310 9 місяців тому

      Haaaaa but this time is different . No more

  • @northernstar4811
    @northernstar4811 Рік тому +6

    "Is Turkey returning to the Balkans"
    Its been 500 years of trouble making in Bosnia and the wider Balkans.

    • @tanjagak2097
      @tanjagak2097 11 місяців тому

      No Turkey in not returning to the Balkans, now is coming to you part of Europe, Germany, Austria is full of them , you have it more Turkish people then Balkans during ottoman era

    • @ihanakaunotar2741
      @ihanakaunotar2741 9 місяців тому

      True, turkey kept attacking south Europe for several centuries and basically created the crusades 😂

  • @BOSNAMAGDURLARI
    @BOSNAMAGDURLARI Рік тому +3

    I highly criticize Today Turkish influence on restoration of historical ottoman monuments look at careva/emperors mosques in Sarajevo, the mindset of carpetbagger companies involved in restoration just destroyed the invaluable priceless value of authenticity and mysticism which was allocated soul by passing of hundreds of years in Careva Dzamija Emprerors Mosque 🕌 in sarajevo where as a faithful servant you could feel some kind of portal gate there.❤
    in the balkans
    Todays turks have much to learn from bosniaks Bosnian ottoman heritage especially about the core of Hodja Ahmad Yasawi philosophy to crack down misinterpretation of protecting itikadh , while protecting your prescribed islamic faith sourced from sunnah and Quran you confuse that with narrow mindedness
    Bosnian muslims are cleanest of ummah look how pretty their mosques are. Like in västervås Sweden.
    We had 100 million piece of Bosniak muslims in the world
    Representation of Islam would be very different than today

    • @abdussametfiliz5484
      @abdussametfiliz5484 Рік тому +1

      Thank Allah and than the Turks for who you are without the Turks next time they will kick you out if the Balkans.

  • @nergnera5205
    @nergnera5205 Рік тому +1

    Sons of Fatih are single Nation...

  • @bosanskenaufalevic7370
    @bosanskenaufalevic7370 Рік тому +4

    There's no neo-ottomanism in Bosnia

  • @hanadyare4735
    @hanadyare4735 Рік тому

    Whith out islam you know what happed serbs never ever left the religios a side

  • @cobrastallone86
    @cobrastallone86 6 місяців тому

    🇹🇷💪🐺 Turks are overall Türkiye is the Ottoman Empire Capital Country and Istanbul was the Capital City of Ottoman Empire.All the Weapons and Clothes from Sultans are in 🇹🇷 Museum and all the Graves of Ottoman Sultans are in Türkiye.🇹🇷💪🐺☝️☪️

  • @aldredtawasil9339
    @aldredtawasil9339 2 роки тому +3

    Balkan ottoman ...

    • @tanjagak2097
      @tanjagak2097 11 місяців тому

      Turkish go back to Tatarstan that is where you belong

  • @lidiabano4698
    @lidiabano4698 6 місяців тому +1

    turkey conquered bosnia. serbs and croats converted to islam over centuries. 50% of bosnia.

    • @Gazija1
      @Gazija1 5 місяців тому +1

      Bosnians converted to Islam. Serbs and Croats kept being Christians in Serbia and Croatia. Some of them also converted to Islam but not in the near numbers as Bosnians did.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 місяці тому

      The Ottomans 'conquered' Bosnia. The 'Turkish' State was established only a century ago.

  • @navylaks2
    @navylaks2 2 роки тому +25

    This is why Türkey must never be allowed inside the EU or Europe in general, Bosnians must accept they live in secular Europe.

    • @MrBreastOfficial
      @MrBreastOfficial 2 роки тому +38

      wtf are you talking about?!

    • @abdullahsaif2065
      @abdullahsaif2065 2 роки тому +31

      Ridiculous comment

    • @Tan_15115
      @Tan_15115 2 роки тому

      Turks has more freedom than some of that eu lmfao . 1850s they was even gave sexual rights + 1920 women election

    • @ib368
      @ib368 2 роки тому +8

      I totally agree with you, navylaks2. I am a Bosnian myself and I believe religious extremism is at the heart of this issue. All three religious groups in Bosnia want to show off their pious prestige by not only rebuilding already destroyed religious sites but also building many more. The country does not have the funding to restore, let say, old medieval castles or protect medieval tombstones from being literally swallowed by the earth. Somehow, however, money seems to be falling from the sky whenever a new mosque or church is being built. It is all about the constant “our God is greater” rhetoric, which is also backed by Turkey in the case of the Bosnian Muslims. Tribalism at its best, unfortunately.

    • @gomiladroogies5951
      @gomiladroogies5951 2 роки тому +11

      @@ib368 Turkey has invested a lot more than just religious buildings also in serbia too. It isnt religious extremism, although i agree Balkans does have a problem with wasting money on religious buildings.

  • @ahmed_obeid_bin_daghr
    @ahmed_obeid_bin_daghr 2 роки тому +5

    BOSNIA IS SYRIA!!!!!! 🇸🇾🇸🇾🇸🇾🇸🇾

  • @sj4632
    @sj4632 3 місяці тому

    disgusting...

  • @lidiabano4698
    @lidiabano4698 6 місяців тому

    turkey messed up bosnia forever.

    • @Gazija1
      @Gazija1 5 місяців тому

      Why did they mess up Bosnia forever?

    • @mda990
      @mda990 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Gazija1 as long as Bosniak Muslims live in Bosnia, it is a messed place for islamophobic racists. take care of yourselves bro. Selam to Bosnia from Turkey🤝

    • @clericaltotalitarian
      @clericaltotalitarian 5 місяців тому

      @@mda990 Stay away from our country, nobody asked you ANYTHING.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 місяці тому

      The Turkish State has little to do with Bosnian history. The Ottoman State does.

  • @heyhej1
    @heyhej1 10 місяців тому +1

    Why spreading hate and lies?!?!
    Serbs did not commit genocide, it was a Civil War in the 90's .....besides Bosnian Muslim leader Fikret Abdić and his followers fought in that war against Alija Izetbegović and his mujahedeens.
    By the way Alija Izetbegović sold his people (all military ready men) for American air strike, this is why the Terror happened in Srebrenica....if you don't believe ask the local leaders from Srebrenica... 🍻

    • @Gazija1
      @Gazija1 5 місяців тому

      Only lies coming here is from your fake comment.
      VRS backed up by Serbian government committed genocide and that is a fact. Anything else coming from your comment is a try to rewrite historical written facts.
      So better try next time.

    • @clericaltotalitarian
      @clericaltotalitarian 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Gazija1 Lol, western propaganda. Those lies don't work anymore.

  • @clericaltotalitarian
    @clericaltotalitarian 5 місяців тому

    This is one of the main problems of Bosnia, this foreign influence has GOT to stop, and it will, one day. That goes for Turkish influence too, NOBODY wants it, it only divides the native population itself in the name of Turkish political interests which we could not care less about. The Ottomans were occupiers and that is final, they shall never be celebrated anywhere in the Balkans.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 місяці тому

      Who's going to protect the Islamic people in the Balkans then. Europeans? The UN? We saw quite well how that turned out.

  • @clericaltotalitarian
    @clericaltotalitarian 5 місяців тому

    This is one of the main problems of Bosnia, this foreign influence has GOT to stop, and it will, one day. That goes for Turkish influence too, NOBODY wants it, it only divides the native population itself in the name of Turkish political interests which we could not care less about. The Ottomans were occupiers and that is final, they shall never be celebrated anywhere in the Balkans.

    • @shihabuddin7632
      @shihabuddin7632 5 місяців тому +1

      It seems Bosniak wants it. Of course if you are radical Christian who wants to do genocide you will be against it.