Secrets of the Obscure Day 6 - Full Lore & Achievements Playthrough

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  • @GrayveStone
    @GrayveStone Рік тому +25

    The story journal says Waiting Sorrow is a Kodan

    • @Zyphent
      @Zyphent Рік тому +4

      Wish I noted the timestamp, he even read the entry where it says it on stream.

  • @Foghorn8
    @Foghorn8 Рік тому +21

    When you get to choose whether to follow Lyhr or Mabon, I took Mabon's instruction literally - "go with the group you feel needs you the most", or whatever it was he said. I thought "Ok then, that group has Zojja and a Mursaat, so, they're probably fine. The other side look weak so I should probably go with them".

    • @peterdreck8446
      @peterdreck8446 Рік тому +1

      thats how I decided it aswell😄

    • @Narcemus
      @Narcemus Рік тому

      I totally went Lyhr in my first playthrough as well for a similar reason!

    • @Sammybree
      @Sammybree 11 місяців тому

      Same

    • @Avenrise
      @Avenrise 5 місяців тому

      I made my decision based I guess on RP. At this point in the story Dagda is still warey of you and what you're capable of so what better way to prove to her that you're dependable and trustworthy than fighting alongside her? The other side was of course tempting and ANET could have made it less of an 'easy' choice by mixing them up but ultimately the choice to me was clear.

  • @GrayveStone
    @GrayveStone Рік тому +7

    Mabon being friends with the sylvari is very sweet. I like that journal alot.

  • @Slay5and5ing5
    @Slay5and5ing5 Рік тому +2

    59:04 WP spitting lore as fast as Eminem rapped during Rap God.

  • @Gorrebell
    @Gorrebell Рік тому +5

    I think it's believable the Lornar's Pass library was founded prior to Lion's Arch flooding. A base inside a mountain is a safer place to store books and magical artifacts than a beachfront one. It's not like Zhaitan's awakening was the first time Tyrians ever saw a tsunami.

  • @Zyphent
    @Zyphent Рік тому +4

    2:25:20
    I think this entry is actually perfectly in character for how theyre writing Dagda. And yeah, it is deliberately grating a little. She's letting out her frustrations in her own journal, its not about pragmatism. Shes shown to be a strongly opinionated person weary of others that she doesnt regard as part of her flock, and everyone just sorta goes "yeeeah, thats Dagda".
    I sorta like that we have a character who is on our side, who can be mistrusting, or annoyed, so many characters the commander interacts with just feel so one dimensional, and the only time there is conflicting opinions and disagreement, it ends up like Braham or Caithe.

  • @radowpps2475
    @radowpps2475 Рік тому +3

    I'm sure others have commented this before, but as per the timline given in "Edge of Destiny" the Durmand Priory got founded in 1105AE, making it 22 years old at the time the journal was written. Seems to line up rather well.

  • @xuzhang9580
    @xuzhang9580 Рік тому +3

    - Yeah the story achievements this time was like "do the story" and that's it. While it removes pressure during first time playthrough, it's also a little bit disappointing. But that doesn't bother me too much either way.
    - This "demon in our mind" thing may really cause some problems. If Eparch can see and hear what we see and hear like Peitha, then that's basically putting the commander under enemy spy vision, and almost everything we do will be revealed to Eparch. It's so crazy if that happens in a real war.
    - Did Logan step down? I do remember him talking about taking vacations in EoD's epilogue.
    - When was Peitha's name revealed? I remember walking around and my character just randomly called Peitha's name, and I was like "Wait was that established before? I don't remember a conversation for that".
    - Nice call-back on the "wanderer" for the demon was called Ravenous Wanderer.
    - Hmm, last time we heard that a construct/building was sentient, it was in Ahdashim, wasn't it?
    - There was a Seraph soldier with permanent stealth next to Logan's tent in Lake Dorrik. Judging from the letter next to her, she is spying on Logan, but doing it for E. So if E is connected to Wizard's Court, then she could be spying for them.
    - Still remembered how great raids were... but the story implementation has improved, and I guess strikes are good enough for endgame.
    - The meta event has several parts when you collect emotion essence, and that conflict with the achievement that requires you to do the meta during this story step, which is really annoying.
    - I get the impression that Lyhr was remembering his family member before his ascension, likely his brother or son.
    - No there're only six memories. White mantle, Shadow army, Aetherblade, Void, Stone Summit and Destroyers I think.
    - So how did we enter the tower during the story if Lyhr's key was only enough to open the front yard (not even the front half) ?
    - The one on Dagda's history is the best to read in a limited time I think. The most important imo.
    - I don't actually remember Arborstone being as good as Wizard's Tower, but I guess it has things to do with my bias that EoD's story itself is not good and that Arborstone is so crowded and that I don't like its aesthetics.
    - Yeah I've started to read Lyhr as "Leheer" too and can't stop it. Dammit WP! lmao.
    - Well I've watched the rest during stream...

    • @MehrumesDagon
      @MehrumesDagon Рік тому +1

      "When was Peitha's name revealed? I remember walking around and my character just randomly called Peitha's name, and I was like "Wait was that established before? I don't remember a conversation for that".
      Peitha reveals her name in a dialogue just before commander starts to refer to her by name, the exchange goes like "so what is your name?" "Peitha"

    • @aaronh678
      @aaronh678 9 місяців тому

      ​@@MehrumesDagon She clearly mentioned her name in a whisper. Replay SoTo if you forgot already.

  • @IsisGebnut
    @IsisGebnut Рік тому +4

    Norn tossing contest has to be a connection to tossing a dwarf in Lord of the Rings?

    • @DemethVLK
      @DemethVLK Рік тому +1

      Which happened in France until it was deemed illegal with legal precedents in the 90's lmao

  • @TheScrootch
    @TheScrootch Рік тому +2

    You can buy non-capped provisioner's tokens in the Wizard's Tower. One of them is 1 per 300 research notes, which is more expensive than the ones you can get around Skywatch and Amnytas (1 per 100 notes)

  • @Sffaux
    @Sffaux Рік тому

    I paused this at 1:25:25, googled Lost In Translation, realised I had never seen it (I thought it was The Terminal when I imagined it in my head). Downloaded the film, watched it, and now I am back here to tell you that I also liked the film. I didn't resonate with the plot really in any way, but the pacing of the film is very gentle and contemplative. The sound track is pretty great at augmenting those feelings of calm too. I completely agree, there is no way that anyone could mistake that film as anything other than a slow-burn romance.

    • @yoknom
      @yoknom Рік тому

      You'd wonder how many people see a story as a buddy comedy when It's actually a slow burn romance only because there is no obvious dialogue or explicit scenes that spills it out.

  • @MehrumesDagon
    @MehrumesDagon Рік тому

    8:33 We fly fleet of airships against Zhaitan and it works very well, then we use fleet of airships in Silverwastes events (once you upgrade a post well enough you get to call in aerial bombardment of the area) and it works fairly well. We fly against Mordremoth, and that goes bad. During LWS4 Pact we orchestrate deployment of a corsair airship, and then in the final episode, a (small) fleet of airships secure the dragonfall perimeter (airships circle the map, and a number of airships is visible in the skybox of the map). After that the next fleet of airships I can recall was calling of Pact airfleet to the Dragon's End - with help of the Aurene they manage to get through the void forces, and assist druing soo-won fight.
    Therefore it is safe to assume, that we have had more success with fleets of Airships than failures, so yeah wanting to bring that fleet of airships would be useful.

  • @rudimcpherson
    @rudimcpherson Рік тому +1

    3:25:30 I believe that this is the meaning of the phrase "Our real home". Not literally that the mursaat are from Nayos but that Mabon belongs there with this woman. The first half of the note shows Mabon feels slightly awkward or uncomfortable at the tower which is meant to be his new home. I think a demonic presence is feeding on that emotion and playing into it, making Mabon question if Isgaaren trusts him. Then when the voice is suggesting Nayos is where he really belongs, with her.
    I also think the woman he dreams of could be a lover like you suggested, but my initial reading was that it could be his mother.
    Either way I definitely think the memory of this woman is being used as a tool for demonic influence, perhaps that's part of why memories are forfeited.
    SPOILER WARNING, The moment Mabon does get possessed gives the impression that Mabon has been fighting off a demonic presence for a while. Perhaps this letter suggests that he's been fighting it off for a very very long time, or perhaps the letter shows just one attempt of many made over the years.

  • @orrthehunter
    @orrthehunter Рік тому +2

    The small chests in the Wizard's Tower actually has a small chance to drop a rare minion after the meta if I remember right. I manage to get it one time.

  • @R_SENAL
    @R_SENAL Рік тому +1

    You know, I said I wanted Tengu for ages, and that would be great, but now I want playable Dwarves! They're adorable!! All they have to do is use all the same armor models from humans/sylvari/norn, and just shrink it down to Dwarven scale! I so want a GW2 style Dwarf now.
    BTW, the whole emotional spectrum w/colors and such, I can't shake how it makes me think of Lantern rings in DC Comics. Green Lanterns are Will, Blue Lanterns channel Hope, etc.

    • @sl5945
      @sl5945 Рік тому +1

      Dwarves are also just such a powerhouse race in terms of attracting new players (and returning players.) If I'm a guy whos tired of playing WoW, and I hear about GW2 adding Dwarves as a playable race, thats so much more enticing than hearing about "Tengu" as a playable race

  • @dantepeterson556
    @dantepeterson556 Рік тому

    Haha love your rage at the agony test. I died in 2 seconds in condi gear haha

  • @Kitabake
    @Kitabake Рік тому

    26:26 Anet is good at Macro design and they are good at finding painpoints. They often lack skill in micro design I would say. They do a lot of things that do not feel good in the moment but in the big picture are very important for players and keep them in.

  • @dantepeterson556
    @dantepeterson556 Рік тому

    Looks like a DBZ character floating on the middle statue between Deimos and Samarogg, the way you have him waist down haha.

  • @adamdart6809
    @adamdart6809 Рік тому

    at 2:27:58 the answer for that puzzle is on the wall with the relic and you can see it easier once you picked it up and the effect from it is gone

  • @SmallFOV
    @SmallFOV Рік тому +1

    It drove me nuts how little time we get to read all the books outside the tower 😢. WP speed reading that one after the meta is how I feel every time lol

  • @DemethVLK
    @DemethVLK Рік тому +2

    With Peitha deeming the tower normal. How twisted must things be in Nayos

    • @supervaderwars
      @supervaderwars Рік тому

      My brother where did you disappear? I remember I used to watch your videos years ago

  • @raptor8x
    @raptor8x Рік тому +1

    What if E is Eparch. I know it sounds crazy, but hear me out. Eparch had good reason to help direct us to kill more dragons by giving us a bit of a nudge... if he knew that killing all the elder dragons would weaken Isgarren's wards that were keeping him out. He seems rather intelligent, and given that him and Isgarren had a history (though we don't know many details), I'm certain he would be able to figure out the details of what was needed for his purposes.

    • @aaronh678
      @aaronh678 9 місяців тому +1

      Think you are onto something here.

  • @naryktaryk225
    @naryktaryk225 11 місяців тому

    There is one fight i would love to see in 10 men: variant dragonfall final kralk battle (from meta). It have tone of detailed mechanics that most players probably dont even know they exist because in 20+ men zerg you can simply out dps them (or somebody else do them for you). If the branded rockformations only spawned elites and champions, time limit or any other enrage was semi difficult it could be really great. The branded pylons (or what ever they are called) already do lot of damage, mender protection retaliation hits hard and flying crystal have to be taken care of as it is (not mentioning the 3 leg bosses split that would be less of a problem with organized group that it is with open world players). For people that dont know how the branded rocks and pylons works or even what they are: they are demonstrated in the crystal bloom camp preparation part of map. Also diferent way of spliting the group than usual 5/5 subgroups would be really interesting as there are three wounds at once and three bosses in midphase.
    There is probably more meta boss battles that would deserve 10 men variant too since they already have lot of mechanics but people ignor them because they are too weak (or they dont scale enough) to impact 50 men zerg

  • @GrayveStone
    @GrayveStone Рік тому +1

    Zojja complained that no one came to look for her or see her, didn't she? I swear that was what she said a few episodes back. But the more journals we read, it seems that people did try to visit and write, and she just ignored them...

  • @WillianBusch
    @WillianBusch 10 місяців тому

    KEEP GOING COMMANDER
    JUST LIKE THAT

  • @beepbeep5548
    @beepbeep5548 Рік тому +1

    3:12:09 WOAH this is seriously so cool!!

    • @47thStreet
      @47thStreet Рік тому

      I'm sitting here just brain blown and WP just goes back to reading. I almost choked on/spit my tea

  • @ThomatoForce
    @ThomatoForce Рік тому

    Not sure if it gets mentioned later on in the vod, but I just looked at the wiki and the Priory was apparently founded in 1105 AE, so it checks out

  • @hardy83
    @hardy83 Рік тому

    To comment on your complaint about the "engine" showing water belows in Skywatch Archipelilalago. I think it's supposed to.
    THAT map is part of the main Tyria land, thus why Wizard's Ascent is part of the mountain. You see the water below.
    Where the other two maps. The Wizards Tower and Amnytas DON'T show the ground.
    In fact Skywatch is above water and below the sky, the tower is above clouds and below clouds, and Amnytas is above clouds and below, presumably, space, as you see it day or night regardless.

  • @arandomfish9755
    @arandomfish9755 Рік тому

    Funny enough my first time I went Dagdar side, purely for roleplay; I mean they have Destiny Edge and a super wizard Mussaat over there, they don't need help.

  • @Reynarthh
    @Reynarthh Рік тому +1

    It's confirmed that Waiting Sorrow is a Kodan, read your story journal.

  • @Kyniel
    @Kyniel Рік тому +1

    Could it be that the Durmand Priory didn't build the library but inherited it? Would make sense if Ogden already had a connection to it.

  • @gianc2226
    @gianc2226 16 днів тому

    Worth watching just for the Choya part at 3:39:00 lol

  • @Kitabake
    @Kitabake Рік тому

    27:10 You are right they should do 2 old and 2 new strikes. It is not crazy idea. It is very good idea.

  • @aaronh678
    @aaronh678 9 місяців тому

    That doodad was Dagda doing something with the 'fractals' right?

  • @DemethVLK
    @DemethVLK Рік тому +3

    59:20 Nicki Minaj's level of flow

  • @daimonmagus
    @daimonmagus Рік тому

    You were saying you don't know why this fails so often. It's for the same reason that several others fail often - because a lot of players DO NOT LISTEN OR READ during the meta. He tells you several times to kill them all at the same time. It's printed in chat messages. Usually several players are yelling it in chat. Nevertheless, quite often people don't listen, the timer runs out, and the event fails. Long story short: because so many players are idiots.

  • @relentlessnights4211
    @relentlessnights4211 Рік тому

    Dude, I went left with Frode and company! While I considered going right, I thought they have Mabon they will be alright haha.

  • @CryHeroCZ
    @CryHeroCZ Рік тому

    You know what would be cool? Isles of janthir as next map. It is reddish ... so what if there was some dissaster of which mursaat went to realm of dreams and it leaked into the tyria. So next map in Isles, with leaking realm of dreams, mursaat lore, realm leaking and divinity reach and logan leaking with realm.

  • @MegaKaims
    @MegaKaims Рік тому

    2:40:40 looks like claw island to me and the arrows looks to me like all the directions that the Zhaitan forces attacked from. That was my first thought when I saw the map. Its a week old video so I might be super wrong on this

  • @BetaAceX
    @BetaAceX Рік тому

    Zojka legitimately feels like as much of a rewrite, retcon, and, dare I say it, character assassination as what Guild Wars did to Smodur.

  • @bob99774
    @bob99774 Рік тому

    I went with the new crew first time as i wanted to get to know them some more 😅

  • @Kyniel
    @Kyniel Рік тому

    Is investigating weather control technology a reference to one of the Asura starter stories?

  • @Orakio
    @Orakio Рік тому

    Zojja's first line to you as you wake up from traveling through the portal at the start of the xpac is a snarky comment, but you're right, she's nice otherwise.

  • @naryktaryk225
    @naryktaryk225 Рік тому +1

    On the murssat and the realm of dreams, one of the colections have memory of isgarren and Mabon talking about Ephar and there is mention of banishing someone from naos i did interpert it as banishnig murssat that lived it the realm

    • @mateusznawrot8941
      @mateusznawrot8941 Рік тому

      Yeah it was pretty much confirmed in journals that Mursaats are native to Nayos and some of them got banished to Tyria.

    • @hardy83
      @hardy83 Рік тому

      @@mateusznawrot8941Which journal? The only thing I ever saw is the achivment Strength of the Unseen mentioning they were banished from the mists as punisment... For something and from somewhere.

    • @ThomatoForce
      @ThomatoForce Рік тому

      ​@@hardy83there is journal page laying around somewhere in the Wizards Tower, 2 npcs next to it can also have dialogue about. Seems to really imply the true home of the Mursaat is in Nayos

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad Рік тому

    It LITERALLY SAYS in the story journal that Waiting Sorrow is a Kodan. There is no mystery here.

  • @Kitabake
    @Kitabake Рік тому

    35:40 This meta requires people to split, so it is failable. You need to actually split into 3 defenses and 3 attacks.

  • @naryktaryk225
    @naryktaryk225 Рік тому

    You are incorrect about the farm bit, in the long run it is not saving it more catastrofic option since it is start of path leading to what balthazar ended up. Or the inquest, or Scarlet, or exactly as ministry of Purity in winds of change. And worst is that you dont even have to notice you doing imoral evil things because you will think it will help in long run. I do recomend to re run or re read the winds of change for its educative value, it is nice presentation of how dictature forms and works in form of fun challenging content.

  • @Kitabake
    @Kitabake Рік тому

    1:09:08 I just wonder how much of this random text are fluff obscure and how much is actual lore that will be referenced later. Fluff is ok, but is it more?

  • @heathenselfhealer4339
    @heathenselfhealer4339 Рік тому

    There's something ironic about using your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man to explain ignoring local issues.

  • @edwinrodriguez2553
    @edwinrodriguez2553 Рік тому

    so tyrias the farm? so the commander is saving the world from elder dragons, does that mean the astral ward is saving the universe, from something greater?

  • @AwesomeDeBawesome
    @AwesomeDeBawesome Рік тому

    It's come up in the chat before but I couldn't find a comment: Livia says she got the scepter of Orr 100 yrs ago, but didn't GW1 EotN end over 250 yrs ago? With a cutscene of Livia picking up the scepter? And didn't she say she'd used it for all those years to keep herself from dying/ageing? How does that work?

  • @MInorek5
    @MInorek5 2 місяці тому

    What if balthazar was good all along and just tried to reverse the cycle. What if gods were just a new form of blooodstone in human form

  • @kawazu874
    @kawazu874 10 місяців тому

    SoB ... Complete indifference, until the book about Mabon. This one feels nice to me ! (I still don't have bought it). Stopped at 3:35:52... Obvious answer : a choya. nobody would give back a choya ! They're too cute. :D The women speaking in a plastic tube will always desperately feels "cheap" to me

  • @heathenselfhealer4339
    @heathenselfhealer4339 Рік тому +1

    I'm not playing presently, so I'm only getting the story and stuff through these videos. It's really highlighting to me how little of a plan there is for the story. Everything about all of this feels very out of nowhere.
    The writing within the story itself seems great by GW2 standards. Fitting all of this into the lore though... some things need excuses for not coming up before, some things feel overly convenient, and a lot just seems weird.

  • @DaFunkz
    @DaFunkz Рік тому

    2 strikes is definitely not enough for me per year, especially as I don’t really do strike CMs.
    I do wish for dungeons still. Strikes and fractals are too arcadey for me and I prefer the rpg adventure of dungeons. :(

  • @broomemike1
    @broomemike1 4 місяці тому

    Ugh! I hate the phrase "found family."
    Why can't we just have meaningful friendships?

  • @luckypeanut9943
    @luckypeanut9943 Рік тому

    not sure if wp is on twitter but hes been absolutely cancelled by the community for his insensitive comments towards choya. Keep your bigotry out of elona !