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  • @lordgrey5223
    @lordgrey5223 11 місяців тому +269

    The real reason they didnt want airships is because they have seen them blow up every time and do nothing. They just didnt have the heart to tell the commander.

    • @h3rpad3rpacifilis
      @h3rpad3rpacifilis 11 місяців тому +7

      I feel like its a stone soup scenario. The commander could literally solo everything, they just like to make the commander think they have his/her back.

    • @HuaYunlan
      @HuaYunlan 11 місяців тому +19

      Hey, the one heading to Amnoon did fine

    • @AlaiaSkyhawk
      @AlaiaSkyhawk 11 місяців тому +31

      @@HuaYunlan Aye, a pyramid collapsed as it approached, instead xD

    • @HuaYunlan
      @HuaYunlan 11 місяців тому +30

      @@AlaiaSkyhawk sounds like a pyramid's problem and not an airship problem

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 11 місяців тому +18

      Just started a PoF run. The commander has a certain reputation when it comes to the safety of airships.

  • @kilojuliet4
    @kilojuliet4 11 місяців тому +29

    On the topic of the MC sounding tired, the female sylvari voice did it really well too. It was a really obvious tone shift, cuz she usually sounds very peppy and high-energy even when she's upset or mad. It felt like someone dimmed a bright lamp way down, it really felt meaningful.

  • @christmascactus1882
    @christmascactus1882 11 місяців тому +31

    Amnytas is the best argument we have yet for a 'disable mount skins'-toggle in graphics settings. With a little luck we can toss in 'disable infusions' and 'disable back items' too.

    • @Werkzeug-100
      @Werkzeug-100 5 місяців тому +1

      I just fight Xera for the first time in awhile and maybe a disable glider skins would be great too haha

  • @AlaiaSkyhawk
    @AlaiaSkyhawk 11 місяців тому +46

    On the matter of the "fleet of airships" bit being dropped, if you read the journal you kinda get that covered. Your com device when Uenno adjusts it to work with the the Astral Ward's system she does it in a way that also cuts-off the Commander from anyone outside. (edit to add: I highly recommend reading the journal entries once you're done with the story. The Commander's thoughts there add so much context. It's in the journal that the Commander comments about being cut-off from outside contact)
    Spoilers below:
    In the epilogue where Zojja asks for the com to make a call to Taimi, it's fair to say she'd know how to re-enable the outbound contact to make that call.

    • @voidface8827
      @voidface8827 11 місяців тому +9

      I love reading the journal entries, I’m so glad someone else out there does too.
      The commander has SUCH a way with words you really miss out on if you aren’t reading it. My favourite new set of words being “…meat wings…”
      Absolute chefs kiss

    • @AlaiaSkyhawk
      @AlaiaSkyhawk 11 місяців тому +3

      @@voidface8827 Yeah, some of the thoughts are just so much dry "why do I have to deal with this crap" funny xD

    • @HappyFeet123.
      @HappyFeet123. 11 місяців тому

      where can i read the journnal entries?

    • @AlaiaSkyhawk
      @AlaiaSkyhawk 11 місяців тому +3

      @@HappyFeet123. Just go to your story journal tab in the hero panel, select the story/chapter you want, and the pane on the right has text in it :)

    • @NaoyaYami
      @NaoyaYami 11 місяців тому +4

      Well, the device itself also just doesn't work when you try to use it, so it's clearly broken somewhat. I thought it kinda strange that this device introduced at the start of the expansion went completely unused, contrary to frequent comm calls during PoF or EoD stories.

  • @tftf9337
    @tftf9337 11 місяців тому +36

    My main's story ended with the Epilogue. He has a job at Xunlai as an assistant to Taimi and Yao. He's got a nice rooftop apartment in Kaineng with some illegally imported jungle plants that he shares with Canach and two cats, Tybalt and Demmi, who entertain the old retired Fern Hound.
    He spends the whole SotO adventure happy to see Zojja but wondering, why oh why, can't he be on the med team, or the logistics team, or the recon team, or any team that isn't the Vigil's Marching Orders all over. All that Whispers training for nothing! Maybe he'll be able to put it to use in his revenge plan against Mi-Rae....

  • @edwinramirez1019
    @edwinramirez1019 11 місяців тому +8

    6:00 I'm glad to hear this. What I really missed about GW1 is how starting a new character in an expansion actually made you feel like you were doing a brand new story with no reference to beating a prior campaign. I can only take being called commander so many times.

  • @guineapigs2998
    @guineapigs2998 11 місяців тому +37

    I really wish we got an alternate fractal of a fight with Zhaitan - lets see the undead dragon at his finest.

    • @ccrazool
      @ccrazool 11 місяців тому +2

      I would have liked a "Kryta, but Mordremoth won" fractal. Then I realized that would just be heaven

    • @lucasvhinever2817
      @lucasvhinever2817 9 місяців тому

      YES, make a Fractal Island of Zhaitan and make it a Meta, and redeem that absolute joke of a boss, and make it grand just like the Defense of Amnytas

  • @spencerpilcher2755
    @spencerpilcher2755 11 місяців тому +4

    6:15 Steve Staley is a GOAT. Seriously, his voice work doesn't get enough praise. I LOVE the male Asura Commander. Any time I play the story on a different character or see someone else playing the story, I'm like "Nah, Steve did it better." The freaking range on this character is so strong. And I love how he sound so much like a world-weary leader who has to put up with so much but still does his best to get the job done.

  • @TheTolnoc
    @TheTolnoc 11 місяців тому +6

    They DO have a few NPCs talking around the Wizards Tower about how they can't hide things much longer, and might need to reach out soon, so you MIGHT get a new pact fleet coming in at some point.

  • @Pavlovski5
    @Pavlovski5 11 місяців тому +46

    The Supernatural point you had in the story part is kinda implied I think. If the Commander brings in a few thousand soldiers unprepared to fight back against emotion sucking demons it probably would have made things worse, right? At least that's how I understood it... I guess they should have done a better job at explaining it.

    • @isty4491
      @isty4491 11 місяців тому

      The Slenderman is coming for you

    • @soon_to_emerge
      @soon_to_emerge 11 місяців тому +4

      Then the average burnt out human that became a hollow husk and a shadow of former self would be invincible for Kryptis? 🧐

  • @ianashmore9910
    @ianashmore9910 11 місяців тому +14

    The new masteries are a huge QOL improvement, but those maps are completely doable without them.

  • @MrZerodayz
    @MrZerodayz 11 місяців тому +7

    Re: Rift scaling, the mobs that you have to clear before you can spawn the "boss" also scale pretty well, but the boss itself is fixed it seems.

  • @riddlesphinxx
    @riddlesphinxx 11 місяців тому +7

    As a vet who hasn’t had the time to play much in a while, this is the only SOTO review I care about

  • @hardy83
    @hardy83 11 місяців тому +35

    My fear is that, ANet has always been good as setting up stories but falls on their face near the end due to rushing devlopment or other real world related reasons. HoT, EoD and IBS suffered from this. I THINK PoF worked out the best cause they clearly had a plan and followed it for a while with LW season 4.
    Also my major complaint is AGAIN, they have REALLY good post story side quests buried in the achivements. These have tons of text and many are fully voiced, deal with the characters you meet and expand the lore... BURIED IN THE ACHIVEMENTS. I can't imagine a lot of people even know they are there. They did a bit with mail and whispers, but those still don't show you where they are! Gah it's frustrating! lol
    Overall I'm happy with the story. The writers clearing used the look books to make things fit in well and the pacing was well enough. Rifts are meh, but I knew they would be so my expectations for them were low, new strikes are cool but they need to stop with the strike portals not giving you access to ALL strikes.
    Also a bit disappointed with the bugs this time round. Some of those good side quests have bugs that stop progression which is a shame. I was excited to see more dwarves I think then boom... Bug to stop progression. lol

    • @ihappy1
      @ihappy1 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah not having one simple spot for strikes confuses me too. All raids are accessible from Lion's Arch, so all the strikes should be accessible from one spot, eye of the north is a good location, even if the game needs multiple portals that lead to Icebrood, EoD, and Soto strikes then that's a small price to pay for convenience

    • @kevinwestermann1001
      @kevinwestermann1001 11 місяців тому +1

      I wouldn't add IBS in there. Mainly because it sucked all the way through. The maps, the story, the rewards, the metas, the mastery. Everything in IBS sucks.

    • @eurasiacentertutorials9518
      @eurasiacentertutorials9518 11 місяців тому +2

      I keep forgetting the Joko storyline wasn't part of the original Path of Fire story line. I thought it was pretty well done truthfully. Path of Fire in general I enjoyed.

    • @andrescoloma6652
      @andrescoloma6652 11 місяців тому

      ​@@eurasiacentertutorials9518 Yep, PoF storyline is the best by far, not only the main story but Joko + Kralkatorik living worlds were awesome. On the other hand the original maps were beautiful and thats all, the maps are boring and not replayable at all while HoT meta events, from dragon's stand and auric basin to tangled depths or silverwastes are way more entertaining

    • @inconceivableabysses
      @inconceivableabysses 4 місяці тому

      @@kevinwestermann1001 I hate that Icebrood Saga shares an acronym with irritable bowel syndrome.

  • @MrZerodayz
    @MrZerodayz 11 місяців тому +6

    Great video! Always nice to hear other people's opinions on the expansions.
    Personally I really enjoyed the expansion and I'm looking forward to seeing where the next updates go. It feels really refreshing to have a non-dragon storyline again and it makes me excited for the future of the game to know that they still had this cool of a story prepared to tell so quickly after EoD.
    One thing I have to add about the pricing is that there is a minimum they have to charge in order to cover their expenses. GW2 expansions are pretty cheap compared to other games (who are more than happy to charge you 60 bucks for them), so people have been spoiled by that. Just because they've priced their expansions cheaply in the past does not mean we can use that as a point of comparison and say "hey, this expansion has less content than that one, so it should be X amount cheaper". There is a floor for the price at release, they still have to pay everyone working for their studio after all. And I agree with you that all things considered, 25 bucks is a very fair price for this expansion.

  • @sidineybottega1837
    @sidineybottega1837 11 місяців тому +5

    For me the best narrative so far. No boring characters, all believable and very well written within the story, each having something that reminds a different spectrum of each commander's emotion, so to speak.
    Two things:
    1 - Please protect R'tchikk at all costs.
    2 - Rytlock being himself in the interview for the Cantha newspaper reporter made me laugh more than I should have. :)
    A great start for Soto for sure.

  • @ccrazool
    @ccrazool 11 місяців тому +11

    * Amytas is almost a perfect map, it just needs a few more giant white marble walls
    * The wizards are sociopaths, experimenting on living beings, and need to be Nurenberg'd

    • @Gnipahell1r
      @Gnipahell1r 11 місяців тому +2

      Was ist Nurenberg? Nürnberg‘d*

    • @ImperiumNox
      @ImperiumNox 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Gnipahell1r It was a trial for the nazi stuff that happened all the way back, with all the crazy experimentation done, including on people.

  • @DespicableMe007
    @DespicableMe007 11 місяців тому +11

    Loved the story .... however its annoying that ya have farm rifts multiple times in order to progress ( I just don't like to grind while doing story ).... also most ppl were confused about how to unlock wizard tower , they should mention the meta imo ..... overall loved it !

  • @TheShugoBR
    @TheShugoBR 11 місяців тому +22

    Weaponmastery: so.... you just equip that weapon....
    but but but but... the specialization...?
    no no, you just grab that weapon with your hand
    b..b..but won't hurt?
    no won't hurt, you just put in your hand....
    I HAVE THE POWER OF BROKEN CLASS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @NaoyaYami
    @NaoyaYami 11 місяців тому +5

    About that plot hole with declining help of a fleet:
    I like to think that Wizard's declining help to uphold a tradition is more about honoring Isgarren than actually caring about tradition itself.
    The point was to rescue the dude and as we learn about how he isn't some fairy tale hero, he could be pretty pissed about blowing a secret he upheld for possibly thousands of years just because he got 'napped that one time.
    I'm also pretty sure Commander themselves would actually ignore any protests and step up to get shit done their own way once the Wizard's way of doing things stopped working. I like how Commander behaves in this expac - they need to actively fit in their new role as just a subordinate and not a person in charge and are honestly trying to be polite towards people that Zojja cares about.
    So in the end I don't think this is a plot hole. It would be if Commander's military resources were actually needed and the story would still go on without it (which would probably end up with forcing Taimi back into story to have her create new Deus Ex Taimi device).
    Zojja's absense was also handled quite neatly (I actually wanted to read her journal entries).
    All in all, I liked the way story progressed and how it dealt with threads from previous arcs.
    BTW I'm hyped for next story part that deals with helping our new demon waifu friend fight Eparch. Wing 4 is my favorite raid wing especially because of aesthetics and Cerys' fight is right up my alley (it helps that cutscenes in Soto story are realy good - I was actually kinda touched when Dagda comforted Zojja). I'd love to get a whole expansion in that world but even a just an LW episode worth of content with it will be great.
    I can almost forgive anet for stealing my legendary rune functionality (well, significant part of it at least) with their new Relic system.

  • @rarausa405
    @rarausa405 11 місяців тому +2

    I've enjoyed the expansion a lot. The fantasy theme with the tall white towers are an aesthetic that I always enjoy. Also, the Music! I love that the music changes, in the Archipelago, according to the area you're in; so, I've enjoyed the HoT, PoF, and EoD music themes in one map!
    I think of Anet's goal for the joy of movement (or freedom?), anyway, you get what I mean. It really shines in this map. It's a great place for using the Griffon and zooming around the maps, and once you learn the masteries, the Skyscale takes on a whole new aspect of movement.
    The story has kept my interest, adding new characters while not forgetting all of our old adventuring team. I'm looking forward to the next part! The events support the story in many cases. I didn't expect the darker elements, but I like it - adds some weight to the story.

  • @MagusShade101
    @MagusShade101 11 місяців тому +16

    I don't mind the login reward being worse, but I do wish we had more dailies. In the old system i had to do 3 things out of 12. We had 4 of each wvw, pve and pvp dailies. So when i logged into gw2 to play i could in the moment decide what i wanted out of my play time that day, and even within a game mode skip one of the tasks. Sometimes the tasks are things I don't like doing (like you touched on with having to get so many of the available mastery points). The way it is now, I have to decide the day before what content i will feel like doing tomorrow, and then do 100% of the list they give me. This simply makes dailies less fun to do.

  • @isty4491
    @isty4491 11 місяців тому +3

    For me
    The only thing missing was...
    Lord Faran

  • @skullomanjaro9402
    @skullomanjaro9402 11 місяців тому +11

    the fact you mentioned super natural at this whole kryptis and compared it was god tier and 100% great. love it

  • @Atlas3060
    @Atlas3060 11 місяців тому +18

    Thoughts on "the plothole": I think your idea around 8:40 was what they were trying to do but they did it hamfisted.
    I mean we are talking about demons that feed on emotions and such.
    This is like a Mordremoth situation but every race could be affected. So the Magical MIB/SCP/Control crew here just wanted to sterilize and contain the situation. They even referenced the mines in Cantha we were at and how the demons were pretty much that breed. We saw what a mess that was in just the small area we had.

    • @amedhel6742
      @amedhel6742 11 місяців тому +3

      there's a lore book at one point on a [Redacted] fractal that talks about how "knowing about [redacted] may be enough for it to take hold".

  • @japzy76
    @japzy76 11 місяців тому +1

    the fact that anet made the commander point out the "airships" was quite amazing, i would never even have thought that myself, but maybe that was a foreshadowing in the living world for soto.. i still wanna ride those in ebg when bombing

  • @KoryTaylor
    @KoryTaylor 11 місяців тому +11

    The lament about being the commander vs being a competent member of a team struck a chord with me because that's exactly what I feel like when I'm playing. I don't feel like a commander, though throughout the story, I'm referred to as such. For example, Traherne was a commander...he was commanding fleet movements, strategy, etc. Rytlock could be a more competent commander than I would be. I'm fine with being the chosen one, but as to my playing a role of such...it never really gels for me that I'm leading anything, really. I'm a facilitator of narrative for my own story, and I'm along for the ride. At least 'wayfarer' makes more sense to what I'm doing now. :D

  • @ChaosContrl
    @ChaosContrl 11 місяців тому +4

    I feel like rifts should have led to a meta event where there are hordes of enemies pouring out. And completing that would net some sweet rewards. The whole thing could be like the Dragonstorm event in Eye of the North (or is it Dragonstrike? Can't remember the name), but with the whole demon theme of the expansion

  • @mormegil231
    @mormegil231 11 місяців тому +3

    on the airship part: it was not tradition. They said it was the tradition isagaren set up. basically they are telling you that our leader wanted secrecy and although he was not available they followed his rules

  • @windowpane
    @windowpane 11 місяців тому +2

    I think the yoga part should have hordes of Kryptis fighting players, like their last stand while we...do.. yoga...

  • @tiaanmoller1508
    @tiaanmoller1508 11 місяців тому +4

    Personally I have been having a great time with the new expansion. Weapon master training has made me enjoy alot of my favourite builds in a fun new way. Absolutely love the flying masteries! As a griffon enjoyer both maps are incredibly fun to explore! Haven't finished the story yet but it seems to be some of GW2 better narritives. Thanks for the content and take care everyone!

  • @CorwynGC
    @CorwynGC 11 місяців тому +3

    Got my first ascended armor from the wizard's vault. Still working on my exotics.

    • @ASchnacky
      @ASchnacky 11 місяців тому

      Do strikes daily in eye of the north for ascended armor

    • @CorwynGC
      @CorwynGC 11 місяців тому

      @@ASchnacky I appreciate the suggestion but I don't have ice brood saga.

  • @dippity4608
    @dippity4608 11 місяців тому +1

    Its good to know that more is on the way. I thought the price was a bit much after completing the storyline but its not over so I'm happy.

  • @Halak014
    @Halak014 11 місяців тому +7

    Think its strange that with The Wizard Vault that no one seems to talks about the weekly and its reward of - Laurel (10),  Celebration Booster, Tome of Knowledge &  Astral Acclaim (450) , like we had the log in monthly and it was super good but at least the weekly makes some differences... right?

    • @Draelos
      @Draelos 11 місяців тому

      As long as you like to do every single thing in that list. Like, if there's a single JP in there, I'm out. No chest reward for the whole week. It should be a list of X things, and you can choose to do Y of them to get the reward.

    • @karthikhalkeri
      @karthikhalkeri 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Draelosyou don't need to do every single objective for the weekly, just 6 out of 8. As for the daily, they are planning on adding options soon.

    • @Draelos
      @Draelos 11 місяців тому +1

      @@karthikhalkeriOh? Thanks! I wasn't aware of that. I guess I just assumed it worked like the new dailies. Getting to select from the list was always appreciated before, and I hope they bring that back to the dailies.

    • @imVidzzz
      @imVidzzz 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Draelos Just to add to this. There are 2 weeklies you don't have to do, and Anet has announced they'll be adding an extra daily (so you only need to complete 4 out of 5). I think 2 extra dailies would be better, and if they're worried about the possibility of getting 20 extra acclaim per day, just make it so completing dailies after the 4th doesn't reward acclaim. That way we get choices (and ways to avoid valdhertz and friends) and keep the acclaim "economy" the same

    • @Draelos
      @Draelos 11 місяців тому

      @@imVidzzz Yeah I would be cool with the extras beyond 4 not giving a bonus. It just feels bad when you have to do a game activity you don't like just to complete the daily chest.

  • @jordanstone197
    @jordanstone197 11 місяців тому +1

    I could be wrong about this but, pretty sure they confirmed that the expansion model is: SOTO, Patch 1, 2, 3, Next Expansion. Could be wrong on this but thought i would just mention.
    Good review as always Muk!

  • @JP1989-l9h
    @JP1989-l9h 11 місяців тому +3

    I can't wait to see the rest of the story in the other updates.

  • @mandala3042
    @mandala3042 11 місяців тому +3

    There's a book in the skywatch meta side of the Tower that suggests some entity in Tyria exactly like the one you're describing in your story review. It says that even knowing about it makes you vulnerable to its presence and corruption. Might not be the Kryptis, but they are doing that with something.

    • @Zaxares
      @Zaxares 11 місяців тому +2

      When I read that book I actually thought they were maybe talking about the Harbinger of Woe. However, assuming the Commander does fractals and CMs, that would mean the Harbinger is already well aware of Tyria's existence, so it's probably not him.

    • @Wanna_Be_Desu
      @Wanna_Be_Desu 11 місяців тому

      All the [REDACTED] is very much an SCP inspired, the whole expansion vibe in general is fantasy MIB. Eldritch enemies , casually creating realities, etc. Potentially great stuff.
      Lets hope they won't drop the ball as hard as Shadowlands with raising the stakes and powerlevels

  • @icata12345
    @icata12345 11 місяців тому +4

    i love the wizards vault, i got super value out of it so far, the cream is the weeklies btw not dailies and choosing PVE only tasks makes stuff very easy

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 11 місяців тому

      Until they give you a minidungeon that's next to impossible to complete as happened on Sunday. Which means missing out on 40 AA I think.

  • @ardonellmoonshadow6232
    @ardonellmoonshadow6232 11 місяців тому +3

    I can live with a headcanon of your idea that the more who know about them and fear them the more powerful they become :) Maybe it is already the truth but since you're not the chosen one, they just don't think it's important to tell you, or something. But with all the rifts opening all over Tyria I'm sure this secrecy will be hard or impossible to maintain.

  • @ThaVolt999
    @ThaVolt999 11 місяців тому +1

    Rifts scaling, seems the trash mob part does scale up (T3 rifts trash phase is SO long...), but the bosses die instantly.

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad 11 місяців тому +1

    The only masteries you need for the new maps are the Jade Bot glider boost, "Who Rescues Who?", Bond of Faith, Bond of Vigor, and all the glider masteries. Otherwise it's just a matter of getting a feel for how high your Skyscale can lift you before it needs to find somewhere to rest.

  • @mgagain
    @mgagain 11 місяців тому

    The filter for masterys in the achievement-tab was my #1 fact from this video... :D

  • @mingyenwu9621
    @mingyenwu9621 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for the comprehensive explanation! This helps a lot for planning out how I should farm the resources!! :)

  • @Paelmoon
    @Paelmoon 11 місяців тому +1

    The best way to get the meta cheevo for archipelago is to restart the story just before the last bit in droknars forge - do the 2 mins instance - pop out of the instance and stay on the central island.

  • @Louby1973
    @Louby1973 11 місяців тому

    Your reasoning behind the kryptos reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where all the large corporate mascots come to life, and they only turn back into non alive mascots if you stop paying attention to them.

  • @MithrilSludge6541
    @MithrilSludge6541 11 місяців тому +1

    Time-of-day lock out Adventures alrdy happened in HoT, specifically Verdant Brink ones.

  • @ChaosContrl
    @ChaosContrl 11 місяців тому +1

    If you power through your weeklies during the weekend to gain the weekly bonus, that's 40 * 6 + 450 = 690 (nice) acclaim a week from that alone. If you also login every day, that's 7 * 5 = 35 acclaim extra. Just that alone nets you 725 acclaim a week, which would be 24 gold pieces a week from astral acclaim only, which would be 24 * 4 = 96 gold per old daily login reward cycle (28 days).
    If you add to that doing 1 of the daily missions a day, that's another 10 * 7 = 70 acclaim, for an extra 10 gold per cycle (~106 g)
    If you add another daily mission a day, that's another 70 acclaim, for an extra 9 gold per cycle (~115 g)
    If you add the last daily mission a day (and thus claim the daily bonus), that's 10 + 30 = 40 acclaim a day extra, or 40 * 7 = 280 extra acclaim a week, for an extra 37 gold per cycle (~152 g)
    If you only do the dailies and not the weeklies, then you'd get either:
    - 35 aa/w (~1 g/week | ~4 g/cycle) for only login in;
    - 105 aa/w (~3 g/w | 14 g/c) for login + 1 daily;
    - 175 aa/w (~5 g/w | ~23 g/c) for login+2d; or
    - 455 aa/w (~15 g/w | ~60 g/c) for login+3d.
    If you only do the weeklies and not the dailies besides the login reward (which you always get for free), then you'd get either:
    - 75 aa/w (~2g/w | 10g/c) for login+1w;
    - 115 aa/w (~3g/w | ~15g/c) for login+2w;
    - 155 aa/w (~5g/w | ~20g/c) for login+3w;
    - 195 aa/w (~6g/w | 26g/c) for login+4w;
    - 235 aa/w (~7g/w | ~31g/c) for login+5w;
    - 725 aa/w (~24g/w | ~96g/c) for login+6w;
    - 765 aa/w (~25g/w | 100g/c) for login+7w; or
    - 805 aa/w (~26g/w | ~107g/c) for login+8w.
    I won't list all variations, but here are a few combinations of both:
    - login+1d+6w (the Casual Player Plan): 795 aa/w (~26g/w | 106g/c). Alternatively, if you login+3d for 2 days you gain +100 aa/w for a total of 895 aa/w (~29g/w | ~119g/c). This would mean login in, doing a single daily and weekly mission for 5 days of the week, then do all dailies each day of the week-end while finishing the 6th weekly. In my opinion, it's the perfect plan for busy players who can't play much during work days. In theory, this is more efficient than login+8w since the 2 days of login+3d nets you an extra 2g/w or 8g/c on top of the gold gained from astral acclaim only. It also puts you really close to 1,000 aa/w, which means the equivalent of a legendary kit or one of these mount skins in less than 2 weeks even if you have a busy work week.
    - login+3d+6w (the Bonus Seeker Plan): 1,145aa/w (~38g/w | ~152g/c). This means completing enough dailies and weeklies to reach the bonus for both. Unless you can do these fast, this plan is reserved for players with the time to complete the bonus requirements. This is a fast way to get a legendary kit within a week, so if you have some free time, go for it!
    - login+3d+8w (the Completionist Plan): 1,225 aa/w (~40g/w | ~163g/c). This means, well, completing everything every day every week. This is just shy of the astral acclaim limit allowed at a time per account. This is the most you can acquire per week so far.
    Keep in mind that only the daily bonus will net you an extra gold piece just for completing it, so that's an extra 7g/w or 28g/c for any login+3d plans only. This means the following totals:
    - Casual Player Plan: ~36g/w | ~147g/c
    - Bonus Seeker Plan: ~45g/w | ~180g/c
    - Completionist Plan: ~47g/w | ~191g/c
    In other words, the Casual Player Plan will lose about -9g/w | -33g/c compared to a Bonus Seeker player, while a Completionist player will gain about +2g/w | +11g/c instead.

  • @Ashendal
    @Ashendal 11 місяців тому

    The rifts also have rotating weekly achieves that gets you a bundle that opens up into some of each tier of essence. You don't have to do anything above T1 so you can solo or duo them quickly. You can get 5 of those bundles per map per week so it'll add up even if you're not using Motivations, you just have to pace it out some.

  • @1980Shadowwolf
    @1980Shadowwolf 11 місяців тому

    Im glad when i first played the content i ignored the heart mastery unless was needed in story and focused all in on flight mastery. I had your video muted to get the twitch rewards and a friend of mine said you was kicking yourself for not at least getting updraft lol. By the time i got through exploring first map was on part past updraft training. I eventually maxed all the masteries but my focus was flight and heart of the obscure.

  • @MaveraceAnimation
    @MaveraceAnimation 11 місяців тому +3

    I want a wizard tower guild hall.

  • @Max44321
    @Max44321 11 місяців тому +2

    I hate how they made login rewards almost nonexistant, as someone without SOTO without much time daily there's no point into logging into the game anymore, where before you still got nice daily login rewards to pile up

  • @fahlur9880
    @fahlur9880 11 місяців тому +1

    Honestly I loved the story, I like the wizards vault for the most part, I agree on the daily login part for clicking it, also I ran into people that didnt know you need to click the daily or weekly chest once completed the other stuff to get more stuff.. Theer are people that didnt know just completing the weeklies every week also nets 10 laurels and other stuff every week, completing dailies gives 1 gold, 1 essence of masterwork luck, 30 astral acclaim each day. the weekly gives 10 laurels, 1 cele booster, 1 tome of knowledge and 450 astral acclaim for the weekly being done.
    II havent really dont strikes yet, I love the info on it good to know. The meta worries me for those that want the leggy armor, if it dies down you would have to basically grind out the currency to just buy some of the stuff instead of getting it from heroes choice chest. Etc.
    There are things I love about it. TBH the things that bother me are small things to be fair but eh.

  • @IanJefferies
    @IanJefferies 11 місяців тому

    On the essences required for crafting legendary: you only need to complete the weekly rifts (about 1.5 hours commitment) and you'll get enough for a full set after about a year. The reward chests give you enough at T1, T2 and T3 and in pretty much the right ratio of drops from the testing I've done so far.
    That's a legendary armour piece every 2 months.
    Motivations should only be used if you're a little short of T2 or T3 essences and have an excess of the lower tiers. Otherwise use them as openers for the higher tier rifts to complete the map achievements (complete one rift at each tier on each map). You don't need to spend them in the rift fight itself.

  • @TheTolnoc
    @TheTolnoc 11 місяців тому +1

    Heart of Thorns had a lot of Adventures in VB that were only available during the day, because Night Meta shut them all down.

  • @Ham68229
    @Ham68229 11 місяців тому +1

    I have to say, I didn't do the masteries until I unlocked the skyscale trek... even then, didn't do a lot with the masteries until after the story was done. I was able to get around easily with the skyscale. Guess it's because I love the skyscale and it's my primary mount.
    Anet has always been lacking in giving any type of explanations of how things work.
    Yea you can skip a few steps but, no matter what, you still need gift of battle, (WvW). To me the most irritating thing is, all they've done is added yet another map currency to the game...

  • @gilsonsilva5811
    @gilsonsilva5811 11 місяців тому +2

    41:50 that's my big issue with gw2 in general. It already happen with action camera, sometimes, especially with norns and charrs, you can't see where to attack because the camera, even if you customize camera position from shoulders in options, it still hard to tag things if you are too close from your character. At this point, I think that is more an engine problem than a choice.
    Come on, Anet, let's do a rework in camera placement.

    • @denslicer6993
      @denslicer6993 11 місяців тому +1

      there is a setting "adjust camera to character height", Ive never had your problem and Im playing only action camera

    • @gilsonsilva5811
      @gilsonsilva5811 11 місяців тому

      Yes, I know that, and even with that sometimes (i'm not sayin it is always), if you try to use the camera close to the character, you can't see some targets@@denslicer6993
      I only play with action camera too.

  • @WhitieWu
    @WhitieWu 11 місяців тому

    8:28 fantastic idea!

  • @Reiea_
    @Reiea_ 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video Muk. I think you hit up some of the weaknesses with good suggestions too.

  • @marianwhit
    @marianwhit 11 місяців тому +2

    I think there is just too much "stuff" and now a lot of "stuff" I worked SUPER hard for is...simply gone. Dailies are no longer something I come to do to relax, I am just like (shrug)...too much work to keep up with it all...

  • @insertname6143
    @insertname6143 11 місяців тому

    You can now purchase the Gifts of blood for example from a vender, so you don't need crafting disciplines.

  • @Asmitha90
    @Asmitha90 11 місяців тому +1

    Maboon was the OG for this xpac- especialy if you did the key meta with lyr. Piti we changed him for Isgaren...
    edit. Also Peitha was perfectly played by the voice actres>>>> props to her

  • @asolem2266
    @asolem2266 11 місяців тому

    Small thing that most people probably already figured out:
    If you only log in for two days you can buy a Mystic Coin.
    If you log in for 20 days you get 11.
    It's less than before but it's still possible to profit a bit from just logging in every day, and alt accounts can still be used for coin farming.

  • @ToyLatrine
    @ToyLatrine 11 місяців тому +1

    It is a bag of laurels. You’re reaching into the bag and pulling out one laurel each time.
    😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @trence5
    @trence5 11 місяців тому

    @8:39 Yes! That would have worked perfectly. You'd have to keep knowledge of their existence on the low.

  • @jurare89
    @jurare89 11 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely aggree on basically everything, but ESPECIALLY the relics.
    Not only are the relics lacking CRUCIAL information (just as you said), after testing some of them, some of the effects felt like... EXTREMELY underwhelming. In my case, this was "Relic of the Krait" (After using an elite skill, emit a wave of corruption that inflicts damaging conditions). I was BLOWN AWAY when i noticed, that it inflicts 1 (!) stack of bleeding, torment, poison on a 8 second duration. with the relic having a cooldown of 30 seconds. WHY DON`T YOU TELL ME WHAT IT DOES BEFORE TESTING IT?
    On the mastery-points: ABSOLUTELY. Another issue with the mastery points is, that a LOT of them are tied to event-chains or standalone events. The issue especially currently is, that MULTIPLE of the required events are currently bugged. And certain events (which ironically, i´ve been waiting for while writing the comment and watching the video) are based on the time of day, and CANNOT be done if it´s not currently that time (in this case: nighttime).

  • @beneteus3833
    @beneteus3833 11 місяців тому +3

    I found the story rather boring until the end - and i hated that it felt like 2/3 of the story were: "Go find rifts and close them" - yay floating around the map following the wind particals so fun.

  • @Airkrazher
    @Airkrazher 11 місяців тому +1

    Adventures in HoT used to be locked based on outpost progress.

  • @embreis2257
    @embreis2257 11 місяців тому +5

    0:01 Muk, maybe have a look again and make a conscious decision if you wanna keep that in

  • @billybones3544
    @billybones3544 11 місяців тому +12

    My 2 biggest issues with the story. (SPOILERS)
    First, Mabon.
    The dude dies too early. Aside from being a good friend to everyone and opening a door, he accomplishes virtually nothing in the story. Despite being in charge in Isgarrens absence, and being a Mursaat, I was seriously disappointed with his ending.
    Second, Cerus.
    The dude also dies too early. This disappointed me more than Mabon. Cerus is in the promo trailers for SotO and is already dead despite LITERALLY accomplishing nothing. He wasnt even the one that killed Mabon, he specifically names a different demon as being the one to make the finishing blow.
    Overall I think the direction of the story is fine. The problem is the pacing. We should have had more time with Mabon to really understand why he's so important to everyone, especially Zojja. We needed to see more demonly evil deeds by Cerus to justify killing him so unceremoniously, so soon.

    • @FlowerBot
      @FlowerBot 11 місяців тому +1

      Mabon's voice sound was a bit too muffled for my liking .. possibly because of the mask he was wearing? A lot of the voice acting seemed to be low quality audio - voice acting was fine, my gripe is with the sound quality. I'm hearing challenged and much of it was very difficult to hear .. frequency wise there were some important ones missing from Mabon in particular.

    • @Mjolnir1000
      @Mjolnir1000 10 місяців тому +1

      Cerus dying at the end of this first half of the exp I think is fine, though I would prefered he had more screentime. Mabon suffered the same fate as Mai Trin, interesting character with a lot lore on their back yet to be explore... dies heroically so ANet doesnt have to explain sh#t

  • @kesamek8537
    @kesamek8537 11 місяців тому

    Weapon Mastery should have been 'into the mind of Lord Faren' playing thru his power fantasies, something involving Faren. Would've been amazingly entertaining and perfectly relevant.

  • @Nokomak
    @Nokomak 11 місяців тому +2

    I hate the wizard vault. The coin% increase is now super expensive and only gives 1%.
    That's what I cared about the most with the daily login system.
    They say they want to respect the players time and sneakily disrespect it when it comes to the fact people can't always play. You lose out so much by not playing for hours daily.

  • @JswahSwitch
    @JswahSwitch 11 місяців тому +1

    Imagine the Airships getting taken over, going from having air strikes to being airstriked

  • @michaelburke4048
    @michaelburke4048 11 місяців тому +1

    Tulpa aren't unique to Supernatural, but that's a good idea. Or the modern day equivalent would be Infohazards. To make it cannon consistent, we can say the more people who know WHY that makes the Kryptis more powerful, the more powerful they become. That's why they refuse to explain themselves to the commander.

  • @mokahtgs
    @mokahtgs 11 місяців тому +1

    I've always appreciated your thoughts on the game. You always seem fair and unbiased. Also..."Unga Bunga!" LMAO

  • @0sujin
    @0sujin 11 місяців тому +1

    The only Masteries I am short on are part of the Icebrood Saga. I'm not super into Drizzlewood Coast and the game outright requires you to grind it for months to get them. Plus, for some like 'kill all 13 of x enemy' the Drizzlewood veterans know exactly where to go and decimate them immediately after they spawn with no regard for anyone who doesn't already have credit. I've never found a commander willing to help me get that one...there was a commander who -considered- it, but the players were on autopilot and they immediately caved.

    • @ErgoProxy12345
      @ErgoProxy12345 11 місяців тому

      You see the next available boss pop on the map. What didnt help at first was not knowing you can clic on the section of the map to instantly be ported in the air near it.
      Nobody told me and i would go back to camp and take the chopper and be late for the kill. Now i know and i can follow the group just fine

  • @hengchoon4082
    @hengchoon4082 11 місяців тому +1

    It is an anti-botting measure to randomize loot chest location on 3 axis.

  • @rhodan74
    @rhodan74 11 місяців тому +1

    I wouldn't farm any rifts for the upcoming leggies atm since not all of the systems are implemented yet. I guarantee the latest tier of rifts and maybe masteries will catapult the amount of currency gained from them substantially.

  • @taylorgarrett793
    @taylorgarrett793 11 місяців тому

    my guess is that they also remembered what happened to the sylviri when they tried to attack mordremoth
    in that they gave in to mordremoth and turned against them
    it could also be that since they have lots of potentially dangerous tech etc, they dont want that to fall into the wrong hands

  • @quaquaval
    @quaquaval 11 місяців тому

    this expansion allowed me to turn my asura specter into a proper shadow mage with the astral ward fashion so i love it

  • @jrafel1707
    @jrafel1707 11 місяців тому +1

    As much as mobility is needed in these maps, I'm confused on why the made skyscale fireballs the first thing to unlock, then wall launch as second. For people who just got into GW2 and don't have the Path of fire or Living world mounts, constanly fighting the map to get to an event when old time players are zooming past you has got to be a disatifying element. Ending up JUST short of the height you'd need then having to find another way to get to where you are going. How many new players got to events to late to participate?

  • @ozirus3344
    @ozirus3344 11 місяців тому +1

    The weapons master thing is weird to me because I couldn’t find who y’all were talking about but when I talked to Frode he gave me the unlock…. So I didn’t understand why the game told me to find the Weaponsmaster and not just “go talk to Frode”….?

  • @HermanDuyker
    @HermanDuyker 11 місяців тому

    I was (when I didn't have the masteries unlocked) jumping off my mount, catch an updraft or a ley line with the glider, and then jump back on my skyscale. But, hassle, I agree.

  • @ErnestStewart
    @ErnestStewart 11 місяців тому

    Commander could bring an entire army! Everyone else is like NAW!

  • @TheTolnoc
    @TheTolnoc 11 місяців тому +4

    The commander did not die in the Elona fractal; they ran away, which I consider even more brutal. You didn't even get a warriors death, you ran away.

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic 11 місяців тому +4

      It's possible I've missed something, but the impression I had was that the NPCs didn't really know what happened, but they assume you ran away when they come face to face with the Commander once again. It's entirely plausible that the divergent point was that the Commander didn't come back from the dead, but from the point of view of the Elonians you just disappeared, and this may have been interpreted as fleeing (especially if they see the the airship arriving and leaving again).

    • @nuggettscout5715
      @nuggettscout5715 11 місяців тому

      Wait what

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nuggettscout5715 There's a book in the village in Skyward Marches that says that after Balthazar won, the PC fled, claiming they'd come back to help (and never did). I'd actually misremembered the book in my previous reply (I'd come across it, but only read it once) - unless someone's lying, it's pretty explicit.
      Given the attitude that some of the wizards have towards the PC, and that the wizards programmed the "initial conditions" of the fractal, I could see it having been deliberately programmed in order to be as insulting as possible. Looking at you, Dagda.

  • @AATproducer
    @AATproducer 11 місяців тому

    Btw there is a document which reads that the wizard created something with their fractals which was so strong that just the thought of it was enough to spread it. So even this document is censored to not name the thing. It could very well be that the wizards crated the kryptis and we call them kryptis and not demons because that would feed them even more

  • @TheSparkIdea
    @TheSparkIdea 11 місяців тому +2

    There is an adventure in HOT thats only open during night tyrian time. Is it similar to that?

    • @embreis2257
      @embreis2257 11 місяців тому +1

      iirc, there are quite a few adventures accessible only at certain times or when surrounding conditions are met.

  • @RoastedWalnutss
    @RoastedWalnutss 11 місяців тому

    At 8:30 your complaint about it needing to stay secret is explained in a few of the optional books the Kryptis quite literally do get stronger the more that people know of them, there is a couple of almost SCP like books that talk about people just being told about the Kryptis and that alone is enough for them to get possessed. It is entirely fair that you missed this tho, so much great lore hidden in books.

  • @Sir_Scuttles
    @Sir_Scuttles 11 місяців тому +1

    Weapon master training unlock felt really weird I expected at least a collection, or only after finishing the story. I also kinda expected weaponmaster training to use hero points somehow. I thought it was a good excuse to reuse that system, but then you'd have to plan for hero points on the maps. I wonder if they cut that because of the shorter dev time?

    • @urud591
      @urud591 8 місяців тому

      I agree. I remember that I talked to this guy and didn't even realize what he did. Then a couple of months ago I've read players talking about the weapon mastery in Lion's Arch and I tried to equip a rifle with my daredevil (then ignored it again). I learn now in this video that it's unlocked for the whole account :D
      Totally agree that a mastery would have been better, maybe replacing the updraft (to give it for free) or even leyline with the skyscale (it feels underwhelming to disable the most expensive mastery skill of the track).

  • @woof3065
    @woof3065 11 місяців тому +2

    36:22 wow that's lame... as a 20 year mmorpg player I'm absolutely toxic against several un-fun addiction systems in games; When I play gw2 and I open my inventory and have to process loot it already feels bad because it feels like work: it's time consuming with slow salvaging and getting mainly loads of low value junk materials, trade post selling is slow AF, and even limited, and now I have to manually claim all the dailies? seriously f that I'm not gonna spend any time on that, but at the same time that pisses me off because I do like the gold find increase on my accounts and Ima miss out on that now too. Also the opening chests with the same dumb baby puzzle they have re-used 100 times feels so bad man.. that's 100% artificial game play, keeping ppl play longer to make the game feel full. Basically stealing your real life time to boost player numbers and the value of the game. How many people IRL literally like to go to the baby section of a toy store and do those games? or how many people play a golden retriever IRL and fetch shit without any additional depth.... Anyway I will prob. play this at some point but for sure walk straight by all this crap. ;-)

  • @curo.
    @curo. 11 місяців тому

    I'm really surprised that people missed the weapon master training NPC. It wasn't just "some dude in a corner". It was the leader of the new NPC faction standing in the middle of the new faction's HQ. I suppose if they're a "rush to the end then start grinding stuff" kinda player who skips literally everything they can, they're gonna be a little confused. But they also kinda bring that upon themselves. I see it as akin to people who skip tutorials in games because they feel they have reached some sort of enlightenment where they don't need to be taught a thing, then they come to reddit or youtube to look it up after they fail at it. So I guess good thing they have you to show them the way lol!
    Otherwise I agree: it should have been something - a mastery, a collection, whatever.

  • @snootygymp3609
    @snootygymp3609 11 місяців тому

    Heh, when I heard my character mention bringing a fleet of airships my first thought was “have these poor people in the archipelago not suffered enough without me crashing an entire fleet of airships on their noggings?”.

  • @michaelmiller4821
    @michaelmiller4821 11 місяців тому

    This map is one of my favorites to play so far.When I first got on the map, I decided just to walk around and enjoy it before I did anything else. Half hour in, I came across the guy for the weapon mastery, not knowing that when you talk to him, it open up the weapon mastery. I use the griffon just like you said, because you can just zip right there, plus its a whole lot of fun diving, then soaring and picking up speed. Fireball, Im still trying to figure that one out until you mentioned about holding down the button for the pinpoint site, which should be like the green target on some of the skill buttons.. Love the story behind the expansion, rift hunting is not too bad, trying to figure out this relic thing. The Meta battles are good. Havent reached the end yet,because I want to build up my masteries. Price is not bad, still better than the monthly subscriptions out there. Bugs, all games have bugs in them. Anet has a good team out there when it comes to solving them out there. This expansion, I give it a 8/10 . GW2 the whole, 9/10. Keep up the good work.👍

  • @ArkangelSPS
    @ArkangelSPS 11 місяців тому +1

    The plothole did felt annoying, but i guess i kinda read into it like humans situation with joko, or sylvari with mordremoth, imagine rallying a (non-trained to fight demons) fleet into a battlefield where they can get possessed, it would've been nice to have that pointed out tho, instead of making our own conclussions

  • @Flubbred
    @Flubbred 11 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, imo, male asura voice actor (Steve Staley) is the best of the playable character voices.

    • @embreis2257
      @embreis2257 11 місяців тому +2

      he has stiff competition. in GW2 the voice acting is stellar across the board

    • @Flubbred
      @Flubbred 11 місяців тому +1

      @@embreis2257 Indeed. I meant no discredit to other VAs. Of course my own bias plays a role as well since I only play asura now.

  • @jenniferlemke7884
    @jenniferlemke7884 11 місяців тому

    The best part of Soto? The Asuran Heroic Emote animation 😅

  • @DaosIures
    @DaosIures 11 місяців тому

    I didn't even know it was possible to hold down the 2 for the skyscale fireball. I spend like 90% of my time in action camera so I always have this dot in the middle of my screen, so I never even needed this holding down thing x)

  • @PanTheGu
    @PanTheGu 10 місяців тому

    About the relics I'm in the same boat. It doesn't feel good having a portion of something you worked for stripped away only to be told oh but you can regrind it out in a few months when they add it back to the game.
    I'm aware they have announced additional progress for Legendary Rune holders but lets be honest it will be like the Wizards vault legendary chest that gives you most of the cheap components. So I would put money on us having to grind out the condensed gifts and other expensive stuff.
    All in all I like what they do however the way they have been implemented is a kick in the teeth for players who had invested time to getting the Legendary Runes

  • @nebezial1
    @nebezial1 11 місяців тому

    even more so, if they invited an airfleet, imagine captains getting corrupted because they are unprepared to deal with the kryptis. , in hindsight wizards not wanting interference may be a good thing

  • @_XR40_
    @_XR40_ 11 місяців тому +1

    I have a permanent orange arrow on the map of the Habitation Zone from the glitched Kestrel escort. And fighting the rifts doesn't register on the progress bar - Which has left me stuck in "Chapter 4" for 2 days. I've been literally unable to progress. Outside of that, I'm pretty disappointed that Anet has decided to go so linear. Skywatch Archipelago has become like Pre-Searing in GW1 - With no available exit. For me, a major reason I to play GW is because they _didn't_ force the story down your throat, yet this is what they're doing here. I'm not far from just saying to hell with it....

  • @GKCanman
    @GKCanman 11 місяців тому

    I remember doing the EotN masteries. They started off very stingy on them and as they released more maps there was a ton of extras.