Could this be why your BOOF is FAILING?!

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • Part 1 in the How to Boof series, in which we consider the purpose of the boof and a more holistic paddling approach to solve possible pitfalls.
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    #kayaking #whitewater #tutorial

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  • @jamiefrompaddle365
    @jamiefrompaddle365 Рік тому +3

    Love where you're going as always, and recognise a lot of this from my tech template. Here's something I've been playing with around the way we balance verticality with rotational capacity to create the perfect forward stroke.
    Assumption A: High paddle angle equals deeper paddle and more impactful burst of power through the kayak
    Assumption B: Low paddle angle supports body rotation and makes it possible to deliver power through the stroke for longer
    How can we have our cake and eat it?
    Most paddlers begin their journey with high paddle angle at the catch phase, dropping low at the end as they rely on the short burst at the start and don't power through the end. Their power phase is short and therefore their boof is unreliable.
    It's also possible to paddle with the blade angle staying low-medium throughout. As you say you get good stability and a long lasting power phase if you use rotation. You may find you miss the burst of energy when needed though.
    What I'm playing with is this. Low angle to start, for big pre-rotation and lots of potential energy, gradually rising to high blade angle through the course of a stroke. This means that when I need to bring the power I've got it in the bank. This can look like top hand starting at shoulder height and rising to head height through the stroke. Let me know how you find it bud.

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      Love this! Thanks for the input Jamie, really insightful as always! I'll definitely head out and give that a go.

  • @allenstill5121
    @allenstill5121 Рік тому +1

    Revolutionary concept! Thanks Matt, excited for this series.

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Allen. I don't know about revolutionary; the concept has been around for a while and has been espoused by far better coaches than me for ages! But I'm grateful for your enthusiasm.

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому

      @@TylerPastorok I think revolutions would rightly be started if enough of the community began using it!

  • @timwatsonphotography
    @timwatsonphotography Рік тому +1

    I’ve been banging on about this for years. Good forward paddling is so much, and so many good things in kayaking stem from it. If I had to boil success at the sport down to two things, it would be having a good forwards stroke and looking where you want to go. I think people think both are clichés and so don’t pay them due attention. I don’t think you ever stop refining your forwards stroke and ever stop reaping the wonderous rewards of looking where you want to go. Myth-busting is a great thing in any field and you’ve done a grand job here.

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому

      Thank you Tim! That's such a humbling, amazing compliment. I hugely appreciate it.

    • @timwatsonphotography
      @timwatsonphotography Рік тому +1

      @@MatthewBrookKayaking you’re welcome. You’ve got a great channel that helps lots of people. I would dispute your advised mechanism for generating a good stroke. One can take a stroke all the way from the front to the back without rotating, if they have bent arms. If the person is instead advised to do any paddling they like but have locked out arms (as a coaching tool!) then I’ve always found they’re forced to rotate and use the right muscle groups. On flat water, I’ll often spend the whole session with completely locked arms, so when I go on whitewater, the right muscle groups remember their job.

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      @@timwatsonphotography interesting. Thanks for sharing. That could be a good alternative to stimulate the correct kind of movement.

  • @simonwyndham
    @simonwyndham Рік тому +2

    You're right. So many people do not know how to generate power through the paddle. When done right, a power stroke will lift the nose of the boat even on flat water. But, I'd say, well over half the people I see paddling, probably more, try to do power strokes or boof strokes with the ineffectual hip thrust thing and trying to pull the paddle backwards with the upper arm as well as the lower one. I guess part of the problem is that a lot of paddlers seem to want to spend money on a new boat rather than coaching!

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      Too true. Thanks for the comment! This video is, in fact, partially a response to your comment on my Whitewater 101 video from a year ago!

    • @simonwyndham
      @simonwyndham Рік тому +1

      @@MatthewBrookKayaking Aha! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the series. BTW, sent you a message about a podcast. No worries if not, but might be cool to cover some of this stuff.

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      @@simonwyndham thanks. I'll be in touch.

  • @Colin82ish
    @Colin82ish Рік тому +1

    Really interesting, thanks very much for making this. It's something I've been playing with literally during today, so it's great to see a video on it, with the same ideas and reasons explained.
    Now just to let it sink in/remember to do it in future... :)

  • @DrRepper
    @DrRepper Рік тому +2

    Hmmm.
    I see what you're driving at. I think using sweeping as a coaching aid to teach recruitment of trunk rotation is extremely valuable. However, I think it's also important to remember that efficiency of forward motion requires the boat travelling in a straight line. Continuous sweeping causes the boat to oscillate left and right and wastes heaps of energy, and in a whitewater context I'd also have concerns about it encouraging over extension perpendicular to the boat during forward paddling. If you paddle a marathon boat like that you won't just be slow, you'll fall in. Good sprint and marathon paddlers have an even more vertical paddle than slalom paddlers, and far more than the average club whitewater paddler. The trick is to incorporate trunk rotation into an upright stroke that doesn't cause your course to deviate undesirably. You do that by punching across with your top hand as you rotate your trunk. I completely agree that a lack of trunk rotation/trunk separation and a tendency to arm stroke is at the root of the issue with a lot of/most paddlers. It's down to a lack of analytical coaching.
    Here's a good vid on sprint and marathon strokes. These coaches would see your marathon stroke demo and shout at you! 😉
    ua-cam.com/video/y_0G9GPi8D0/v-deo.html
    As for the boof plural: coming out of left-field, why not have 'boof' as both singular and plural?

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      Definitely. I definitely didn't stress enough that this sweeping style should be used as a tool to encourage trunk rotation for (the majority of) folks who have never been taught to do so properly. I agree, there is a need for straight-line paddling and that this involves the blade being more upright, but I'd also argue that no-one needs to be taught how to use their biceps to paddle forward; the thing people need to learn is preservation of momentum, gripping the water effectively and rotating through their whole stroke.
      As to the nomenclature, I think that's probably the most sensible response so far. I like the thought of "boof" behaving like "sheep"…

    • @DrRepper
      @DrRepper Рік тому +1

      @@MatthewBrookKayaking I 100% agree with all of this. That telltale pull of the elbow towards the waist people do during the critical transition from catch to pull when they should be rotation through with a solid arm is always a give away. "Paddling with the bicep" is a really good, succinct way of putting it!
      As it goes, I watched that sprint video I posted again, and there's actually a really good, transferable nugget concerning 'poor' sprint technique that could actually be taught as 'good' boof technique, and totally chimes in with what you're saying: by pushing the top hand ahead of the active hand on the catch it causes to paddle to be too far (from a sprint perspective) past vertical in the last third of the pull, so the blade pulls up towards the surface pre-release and pulls the stern down into the water rather than pushing the boat forward, which is actively desirable in a boof. That tendency for people to focus all their effort on pulling the bow up on the catch and totally neglect the last part that pulls the stern down is a big reason their boofs fail

  • @beckettakins6198
    @beckettakins6198 Рік тому +1

    are there going to be more in this series?

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому

      Thanks for asking. I hope to be able to finish this series one day. It's been a busy season, but I am hoping to collect the necessary footage and get it done.

  • @billyb3689
    @billyb3689 Рік тому +1

    Hi Matt, just looking around 3:34, is the edge change on each stroke a good sign of this style of stroke? I was out practicing this today and I found that was something different to my usual stroke

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому

      It definitely shows that you're entire body is engaged with the stroke. But I'd say it's mostly just a natural reaction to the more rotational style of stroke; without it, a slicier stern will natural dip all the time and a more voluminous stern may trip up on its edge.

  • @h2odreamsllc216
    @h2odreamsllc216 Рік тому +1

    Nice!

  • @mizgard
    @mizgard Рік тому +1

    Hello. I have a question.You've said (5.20)that low wide paddling will give us more power ( I understood this as front movement power)than vertical one. How it could be achieved if part of energy(during wide paddling) is going into spin motion ?(according f.eg. to sweep stroke)
    And why we can't use torso rotation during vertical paddling?
    Thank You for Your opinion and video!

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому +1

      Hi. Thanks for the question. In part this is poor phrasing on my part. I should have said "more sustained power" or "more controlled power". I mean that in two senses. Firstly, the ability to paddle for longer, due to increased muscle-group activation and therefore lower targeted strain. Secondly, the ability to generate power and exert grip on the water throughout the entire move, which is vital for smooth paddling in whitewater.
      I completely agree, torso rotation is perfectly possible with a very upright blade, but there is an undeniable inverse correlation between them in many people's paddling. The purpose of employing sweep-like strokes as a coaching device is to break people out of static paddling and move towards increased torso rotation.
      This is, of course, a far more nuanced topic than one seven-minute can express! Hence I've had to abbreviate or leave things for the future episodes. But I hope that is the beginning of an answer!

  • @Mansen1969
    @Mansen1969 Рік тому +1

    Who made your paddle if you do not mind me asking ??

  • @tomclaremedia
    @tomclaremedia Рік тому +1

    plural for boof = beeps

    • @tomclaremedia
      @tomclaremedia Рік тому +1

      Also - polo is the best for forwards paddling practice - acceleration is king, and that is what is the best thing for WW!

    • @MatthewBrookKayaking
      @MatthewBrookKayaking  Рік тому

      Oh no! The sheep returns!

  • @AngusRobins
    @AngusRobins Рік тому +1

    Boof, Booves, Boofing...🤷🏻