Btw the prized ivory ornament will be available for bright dust on week 7 of the season, another ornament a broken bird, to be healed will be available for bright dust next week.
@@aurorahrndt different types of weapons, so can't really compare. I see more pulses than hand cannons lately, and that says Alot considering hand cannons are bungos pride and joy
I’m planning on making two copies of Austringer when I’m able to craft it. One with eye of the storm/rangefinder for PvP and outlaw/rampage for PvE. Gonna bring back Midnight Coup :)
honestly I think Smallbore is better than Hammer-Forged in this case, it gives you more Stability and only cuts off about half a meter of range compared to Hammer-Forged. Also the ornament is coming later in the season for Bright Dust for anyone who's wondering
I thought so too but for some reason 70+ range makes a wild difference to the range stickiness. On controller 76 stability was more than enough. I never needed to pull up/down on the stick. Try it out for yourself!
@@ominousvagrant maybe the stats works the same way as character stats whereas every increments of 10 will make a difference? I'll try it out, thanks for to info
@@DoubleYouRandyBe it probably does. In which case the one next week should be on par or better than default. While the ornament sold a few weeks ago is worse than default.
My all time favorite hand cannon is Austringer I farmed and farmed the menagerie all the way up to the last week when there were 5x drops to get a pve and a pvp roll. Those were the days.
Yepper. And I grinded my face off to get it back. Couldn’t be happier , love this gun. Best kinetic legendary hc for me, couldn’t stand what they did to the Eyasluna sights
I'm so happy they r bringing back legendary ornaments from the past I think in future seasons they should release seasonal weapon ornaments at least for a few weapoms
I don't think you remember this but Bungie did state that weapons that drop from nightfalls and trials will have higher base airborne effectiveness compared to the similar weapons within it's archetype.
Zen moment doesn't actually increase stability despite what it says. All it does is reduce visual recoil which is why it barely does anything on keyboard where the visual recoil is practically nonexistant on most weapons.
I use to really love zen moment on some weapons I notice it working more then others it's kinda weird but it's still good to have anything that increases stability or accuracy
@@WGG-01 Randy’s Throwing Knife was my favorite before it was sunset, I have probably the most kills on that then anything. Between Zen Moment or Rapid Hit, it absolutely slapped at mid range. My crimson is a close 2nd though as that’s what I used to get my Lunas Howl and got so used to it I kept using it lol. I actually use a Night Watch lightweight frame with explosive payload and outlaw with a full auto retrofit mod now most the time, the recoil on those is very predictable.
I actually am running my Crafted Austringer with enhanced Outlaw and Enhanced Rangefinder, Hammerforged Rifling, Ricochet Rounds, and the Range frame. It feels so good to use
If you play normally aka on the ground and use cover to avoid flinch. You can use max range + outlaw + rangefinder or opening shot. Its a way better way than trying to force thise thing to be anti flinch or accurate in air.
@@ShadySummerZ Do you even know what eye of the storm does? If you get shot even once it makes your gun more accurate and the lower your health gets the more accurate it becomes, and thats not just in the air its anywhere. All outlaw does is let you reload faster after a kill, which compared to eye is just not good at all.
@@flexu8699 sorry I stay away from perks that require me to get shot. Cause if the perk is activating then Im not doing well enough and need to get good. In a 1:1 you should never get low enough for it to take effect and in a 1:mutiple you need reload cause odds are youll have to reload between kills.
@@ShadySummerZ buddy it triggers at 66% health, aka getting shot once by a handcannon, no offense to you but it doesn’t seem like you have much knowledge of pvp at all
Austringer is a beautiful weapon, and one of the more accessible tiers with it being craftable, but in the context of a lot of the sandbox changes and your last video I would say the Battle Rifle is what's really meta right now. Same ttk but much more accessible and more flinch resistant, along with better versatility at close range.
I like the cowboy esthetic so I’ve been forcing myself to get better with hand cannons lol my personal favorites are the dire promise and sun shot and god I’m excited to finally get an Austringer
So glad this hand cannon came back. Grinded chests like an animal until I got that last pattern. Here's hoping other weapons make a return! *cough cough* Black Armory *cough cough*
@@jahfart69 "RNG" I got 2 red borders from 5 focuses and 3 from running chests. I know a lot of people who have already focused over 20 and still haven't had more than 1 red border drop though.
Personally I would go for Corkscrew, ricochet, EotS, Rangefinder, range masterwork. This ads a total of 20 range, 20 stability, and 10 handling. Beautiful well-rounded stats
Love the gun and love that its in the kinetic slot. I've needed a top tier kinetic handconnon for a LONG time. I'm also sure other (non kinetic) craftable hand cannons will still have their place as they introduce more perks that synergies with the subclasses (headstone, repulsor brace, incandescent). Hope they release a new void handcannon soon as I never managed to get a decent palindrome for my void pvp build.
I hope they don't go overboard with craftable handcannons. I can see one for the energy slot but I think they should have a total limit of 3 (for each RPM). It makes the ones you can craft that much more valuable.
me too. I've been looking for my forever handcannon ever since my better devil's became useless after the sunset. and with this I can finally have my ideal gun and ditch the rest. well except for the stasis one. it's got Encore on it.
I'm planning on having 2 Rolls. I've got my PVE/All Rounder Roll already crafted & when I have more Ascendant Alloy I'll start Crafting the PVP All-star Roll. Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced Outlaw, Enhanced Rampage, Range MW. 68 Range, 78 Stability, 49 Handling. Not too shabby! PVP Roll, I had planned on Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced EOTS, Enhanced Opening Shot, Range MW but I'm seeing a LOT of people, even folks that aren't the greatest fan of Rangefinder on other HC's saying how good it is. Opening Shot is obviously your first shot, Rangefinder supposedly gives you that sticky feeling on your whole magazine so definitely seems like the way to go! Very happy we have Austringer back & I'm happy I got to recreate my old PVE Workhorse! I also love that there's a big difference in perk choices between Austringer & Eyasluna! My favourite Eyasluna has Heating Up & Headstone VEEEEERRRY different to Outlaw x Rampage haha.
i actually went with extended barrel over hammer forged, because you get the same range benefit but 100 recoil direction, and handling isn't an issue for me because i ALWAYS use ophidian aspects.
For those that don’t know, the Opulent Weapon ornaments will be appearing in the bright dust shop through the season. I believe Fixed Odds ornaments is in there rn. Next week is one the two austringer has, not Prized Ivory tho.
I miss my spare rations. It sounded the best. It was snappy. Great damage and range. Wish it had better ornaments. The main gun is good design is good and the right perks your set. I gotta farm out a good austringer. What’s the best place to farm it?
Hey cross, take a look at wardens law hand cannon. It is a 120 that hasn’t been touch by any damage nerfs and can 2 tap with kill clip(I believe 105 to the head) and it stacks with radiant for 135 crit
The issue with Wardens Law is because it fires two bullets at the same time, missing one bullet drastically reduces TTK. Now I haven’t touched it since Forsaken so I’m not sure if it’s changed in anyway shape or form because at one point it was my favorite HC and most used but as better 120s dropped the inconsistency of Wardens Law became more and more glaring
I just got a roll last night with fluted, extended barrel, armor pierce, richochet, triple tap, rangefinder and a range masterwork. One of the best rolls I have ever gotten for a handcannon.
I think I'ma be the only person that heard this slip up, but dfa has only been in d2, I thought it was just funny that you said one of my favorite hand cannons from d1
I went with demolitionist on mine for pve to compliment my Starfire protocol double grenade, double explosion build. In any rift, it's continuous high end damage with no breaks. Grenade, 4 shots, grenade, 4 shots, on and on. No reloads. Essentially a rockets worth of damage every 3 seconds between shots
The first one that dropped for me (that of COURSE wasn't a red box) was a rampage with eye and stability. Unfortunately both barrel perks are questionable. (Fluted and arrow).
@@Susthecat Yeah but it's range is lacking super hard overall... If it at least had a range MW it wouldn't be as bad. I'm honestly afraid to try it in PvP knowing I'll lose so many engagements due to the lack of range... Legit haven't ever seen a HC which such low range.
I'm not sure what frame to use. I want to try out different ones, but they're expensive. Does it need the range? Should I push the stability more? Add some reload speed or handling? I don't think cross said what frame he's using on it
I need to grind Austringers out. I have a Fatebringer with Eye of the Storm and Killing Wind, it’s one of my top dueling hand cannons by far due to how stabile it gets. For me eye of the storm and zen moment will be really good, as a console player I don’t go for massive range. I look for those closer/mid range duels or I’ll close the range when someone tries dueling out of my comfort zone. Outlaw/Demo would be one of my top PVE choices
I have the normal Austringer with Opening Shot and Eye of the Storm. As for magazine it's either Appended Mag or High-Caliber Rounds and for the barrel, Hammer-Forged Rifling.
Something I both love and hate right now is how many 140 hand cannons we have fighting for the top spot in the kinetic slot. Personally my favorites are dire promise and lumina. But we have eyasluna, austringer, fate bringer, and dire promise. Dire promise I would say stats wise is the weakest but feels the best to me. I'm not sure why it feels like it has a larger hit box or something. Anyways the things I really don't like are that fatebringer, eyasluna, and austringer all have the same sound. Come on Bungie please make new kinetic hand cannon sounds. The other thing is that we don't really have a competition in the energy slot. It's palindrome or cantata but palindrome easily wins this an easy fix for this is buffing all the other energy 140s (waking vigil, nation of beats, crisis inverted, finite impactor, ancient gospel, annual skate) to be in line. I name all of these just to show how many energy 140s we have that just can't compete with pali. And I might have even missed a couple.
Very 1st Opulent Chest I opened this season gifted me Austringer with Chambered compensator, Ricochet rounds, Eye of the Storm and Zen Moment. It's been an absolute blast to use 💯 %
So this was my favorite hand cannon on mouse and keyboard ever. When it was sunset I was genuinely upset. But now, it’s back and better. A friend said I should just get eyasluna. But I say fuck eyasluna I just want Austringer. My old roll was EotS opening shot and I loved it. I’m even using a outlaw rampage roll for pve. So glad it’s back
About what you said regarding zen moment. Zen moment works by reducing the amount of visual recoil/screen shake the weapon gives you when fired and has no bearing on your actual stability stat (unless this was changed under the hood)
My season of opulence PVP roll was eye of the storm zen moment, and it served me well. I used eye of the storm with demolition it’s in PVE. I’m only one gun away before I can go craft crazy!
Haven't managed to craft mine yet as grinding the leviathan for deepsights started to burn me out. Luckily I only need one more red border austringer and it's guaranteed with the upgrade to the crown that guarantees one on first weapon focus per week. Oddly enough I remember not actually liking austringer back in season of the opulence but maybe it's because I never got that "god roll" and it was always a 3/5 because my rng was ass. Gonna be nice to have a solid 5/5 HC for once as my luck has never allowed for me to get that perfect handcannon roll and for the times I've use even the random drops of it I've gotten it did feel great. Got both ornaments of it already as well and prized ivory is certainly the way to go.
I have 3 rolls that i've been messing around with the most: - Arrowhead brake/Hammer Forged, High cal/Flared magwell, Snapshot sights, Rangefinder - Arrowhead brake/Full bore, Appended/Light mag, Outlaw, Opening shot - Corkscrew/Smallbore, Armor piercing/High cal, EotS, Zen moment I use my SS/Rangefinder roll the most in PvP. I like the way it feels but i like the way the Outlaw/Opening Shot feels too. I've had horrible luck getting attuned versions to drop but i'll be playing around with an EotS/Rangefinder and Outlaw/Rangefinder rolls when i get there. It might be because of the roll on my eyasluna (HCS, RR, Rangefinder, Moving target), but Austringer feels on par with it IMHO.
I got really lucky and got a eye of the storm / opening shot roll while farming for it. My red border luck for this weapon is awful and I only have 1/5 rn
i hate how weapon crafting is so discouraged because of the cost. it makes most players go " well i don't really know what the best roll is gonna be, and I don't have the resources to craft and recraft them until I find it, i might as well wait for the Aztecross video so I know what to go for." it's very frustrating but you are doinga service to the community at large
I got a pretty nice Austringer roll from the Crown this week (Full Bore, Ricochet, Snapshot, Rangefinder, Stability MW) which has basically become my main kinetic for PVP now (during Iron Banner, at least). Even after I get all 5 patterns for the weapon and craft it, I'm still keeping that roll in my vault.
Range is no longer king... I've been waiting to hear those words for a very long time now. That's also my exact Austringer rolls. Well done brother, great video
Small bore > hammer forged. Trust me that stability is way better for stickiness. Stability = range effectiveness and headshot accuracy at range for hc's
Hey Cross I'm a kinda new view and I have tried your eye of the storm, rangefinder, with ricochet rounds, and hammerfordge. But I think u should try out fluted barrel instead of hammerfordge because of the handling and stability bump it gives.
I agree. I like both of them, specially Fluted barrel. It depends on your playstyle and what weapon you pair it with. People running HC + Shotgun prefer getting those extra 0.5~2 m on their hand cannons so their primary covers the widest range band possible (15-35m). You should be running a pulse or scout rifle at those ranges IMO, but hand cannons are the best primaries by design. Watch "Why Hand Cannons Will Always Be Meta" by Ascendant Nomad if you haven't.
@@WeissM89 Ya I use shotgun most of the time but I am also a much more aggressive player so range isn't something that I don't rlly care about but that stability that you get can get on it feels way better than hammerforged and I will watch the video. Thank u for the recommandation
Nice to have a primary kinetic that handles well and we can tailor it to suit use. What's not to like. Stability seems to be the go for hand cannons and SMGs right now and as a dirty controller user (hurts hands less than KB+Mouse) I appreciate the distinction.
this gun seems like a hybrid between the Eyasluna and Fatebringer, I haven’t had the chance to use one but after wasting countless hours farming my God Roll Eyasluna turns out I’m just not comfortable using those types of hand cannons, same goes for Fatebringer, I got a God Roll Timelost that I strictly use for PvE not PvP. so i’m worried i’m going to spent an infinite amount of time farming this gun just to be disappointed AGAIN. my type of hand cannons are Cantata and Palindrome
Imo eyasluna is either equivalent or little better so there’s no point in austringer if u have a godroll luna. Just depends on what perks you like better as both have different sets but both already have RF anyway.
I just got back into the game after a year long break. I’m not sure if I should go farm eyesluna, palindrome, or Austringer. I’m a controller pc player. Tried to play mnk for a few days straight and I just can’t after play controller on console for the entirety of d1 and most of d2, just feels too natural to me to play on controller. That being said I’ve been defaulting to last word adhored, tracking module rocket with 100 blast radius, and I’m now looking to farm some 140s since mine are all meh. Which of the 3 do you guys recommend I go for and what rolls?
Been watching reviews of this gun but what stood out to me is the gameplay from DFPSheikh with his Eyasluna with perpetual motion and harmony, a super high stability roll. Eyasluna in his gameplay just looks so crispy, I feel like it's the massive amount of stability there. I haven't played in a while so I can't compare these two myself but I feel like it's definitely worth a comparison.
I have to do opening shot for pvp. Rangefinder doesnt feel good on Austringer to me. But I love it. With specific rolls, its the best kinetic. I outgun palis because I play my range correctly. Opening shot puts my on my first shot so I can follow up, its amazing.
Lol I've never really noticed or paid that much attention to frame rates cause I've always played on xbox, but watching him run around the new map looks like a movie and I get the difference between good frames n bad frames now
I have 1k+ kills on all of the top dog 140 hand cannons in the game currently and this one feels the best for me right now. With Eye of the Storm+Rangefinder it feels so consistent. Even when Eye of the Storm isn’t active this gun feels like it has the easiest time landing shots after the first shot and I like that a lot.
Eyasluna is better for pve I mean unrelenting headstone is god tier in pve, and you can argue that eye of the storm is a better perk than moving target(that’ll be a good argument). But eyasluna has more range than austringer ( it can also get great stability) remember austringer was just an eyasluna replacement when we didn’t have eyasluna. Basically if you don’t have a godroll eyasluna get austringer.
The ornaments for the menagerie weapons are for sale in the Eververse shop every week now from this week on. Each week one weapon. This week it’s the heavy machine gun next week I believe it’s either beloved or Austringer
If "Range has taken a back seat" then run Smallbore... You get a boost to range and stability... Yeah the range is less than Hammer Forged, but it's barely noticeable when engaging... Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced EOTS, Enhanced Rangefinder is the roll you want to craft... Obviously with a Range MW 👍
Well I'll have this gun in the back of my mind if they ever revert the AE changes. Can't say I've had a drive to play destiny since those changes but hey, just gotta keep looking for other games to get my fix on.
Btw the prized ivory ornament will be available for bright dust on week 7 of the season, another ornament a broken bird, to be healed will be available for bright dust next week.
Any word on the beloved ornament. I never not that one. Too busy slaying out with twilight oath at that time.
@@zekuel_u41 week 6
@@zekuel_u41 June 28th
Always recheck the todayindestiny calendar, sometimes changes
Thx for the info, been saving up
The first craftable handcannon, and with its power probably the only one we’ll ever need
I still want a 120
I’m just waiting for the complaints about it ruining crucible like we started to see with piece of mind towards the end of last season.
Transmat firing
I meeeaaaan one for the energy slot would be good too.
@@aurorahrndt different types of weapons, so can't really compare. I see more pulses than hand cannons lately, and that says Alot considering hand cannons are bungos pride and joy
I’m planning on making two copies of Austringer when I’m able to craft it. One with eye of the storm/rangefinder for PvP and outlaw/rampage for PvE. Gonna bring back Midnight Coup :)
frenzy is a lot better than nerfed rampage
Thats what i'm doing, just need to get round to doing the pve one
I plan in my pve one to use demolitionist cus I rock a grenade build
For me outlaw & demolitionist I need to get my grenade builds
I don’t think it can beat my fatebringer but definitely want one for the pvp
honestly I think Smallbore is better than Hammer-Forged in this case, it gives you more Stability and only cuts off about half a meter of range compared to Hammer-Forged. Also the ornament is coming later in the season for Bright Dust for anyone who's wondering
I thought so too but for some reason 70+ range makes a wild difference to the range stickiness. On controller 76 stability was more than enough. I never needed to pull up/down on the stick. Try it out for yourself!
@@ominousvagrant maybe the stats works the same way as character stats whereas every increments of 10 will make a difference? I'll try it out, thanks for to info
@@jjshane72 definitely not for the pure range in meters. But, it's hard to say for the AA component.
Small bore is the play. You are not going to notice a 0.4m range difference. The extra stability makes it crispy
I just put small bore on and it has the best of hammer forged and fluted barrel. I didn't even think to put it in cause I'm an idiot
That Ornament is available for dust on July 5th. The other one is available next reset.
How did you know this info?
@@CarsonRSS today in destiny has an eververse calendar
Makes another ornament any difference in range like shotgun ornaments does? If yes which one is the best one?
@@DoubleYouRandyBe it probably does. In which case the one next week should be on par or better than default. While the ornament sold a few weeks ago is worse than default.
My all time favorite hand cannon is Austringer I farmed and farmed the menagerie all the way up to the last week when there were 5x drops to get a pve and a pvp roll. Those were the days.
Yepper. And I grinded my face off to get it back. Couldn’t be happier , love this gun. Best kinetic legendary hc for me, couldn’t stand what they did to the Eyasluna sights
@@christwalken12 Same. Had mine crafted with enhanced perks the night of day 2.
Both opulence Austringer ornaments will be available in eververse this season for bright dust including prized ivory
Yep, week 7 for Prized Ivory
Can't wait to pick it up
Imagine not already having it
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@@astro2606 L
Its funny going back to older videos like this.
“Prized Ivory” ornament will come up for 700 bright dust in week 7 (July 5).
I'm so happy they r bringing back legendary ornaments from the past I think in future seasons they should release seasonal weapon ornaments at least for a few weapoms
Awe-stringer is certainly the best hand cannon I've missed shots with in a long while!
What did you just say…
💀”Awe-stringer”💀
Story of my life lmao
The opulent weapon ornaments, including Prized Ivory, will be available in Eververse this season.
I don't think you remember this but Bungie did state that weapons that drop from nightfalls and trials will have higher base airborne effectiveness compared to the similar weapons within it's archetype.
Zen moment doesn't actually increase stability despite what it says. All it does is reduce visual recoil which is why it barely does anything on keyboard where the visual recoil is practically nonexistant on most weapons.
I use to really love zen moment on some weapons I notice it working more then others it's kinda weird but it's still good to have anything that increases stability or accuracy
On console I like it a lot as a perk
@@sleeper.simulant7327 same, I can't use any rapid fire scout besides trustee cause of zen moment. It just makes it feel do perfect on controller.
@@WGG-01 Randy’s Throwing Knife was my favorite before it was sunset, I have probably the most kills on that then anything. Between Zen Moment or Rapid Hit, it absolutely slapped at mid range. My crimson is a close 2nd though as that’s what I used to get my Lunas Howl and got so used to it I kept using it lol. I actually use a Night Watch lightweight frame with explosive payload and outlaw with a full auto retrofit mod now most the time, the recoil on those is very predictable.
Why is the recoil nonexistent on keyboard? Thought visual recoil was what gave the gun its recoil?
I actually am running my Crafted Austringer with enhanced Outlaw and Enhanced Rangefinder, Hammerforged Rifling, Ricochet Rounds, and the Range frame. It feels so good to use
outlaw over eye of the storm is insane to me
If you play normally aka on the ground and use cover to avoid flinch. You can use max range + outlaw + rangefinder or opening shot. Its a way better way than trying to force thise thing to be anti flinch or accurate in air.
@@ShadySummerZ Do you even know what eye of the storm does? If you get shot even once it makes your gun more accurate and the lower your health gets the more accurate it becomes, and thats not just in the air its anywhere. All outlaw does is let you reload faster after a kill, which compared to eye is just not good at all.
@@flexu8699 sorry I stay away from perks that require me to get shot. Cause if the perk is activating then Im not doing well enough and need to get good. In a 1:1 you should never get low enough for it to take effect and in a 1:mutiple you need reload cause odds are youll have to reload between kills.
@@ShadySummerZ buddy it triggers at 66% health, aka getting shot once by a handcannon, no offense to you but it doesn’t seem like you have much knowledge of pvp at all
Austringer is a beautiful weapon, and one of the more accessible tiers with it being craftable, but in the context of a lot of the sandbox changes and your last video I would say the Battle Rifle is what's really meta right now. Same ttk but much more accessible and more flinch resistant, along with better versatility at close range.
Thanks for the review, Cross. I appreciate the extra work you put it in for reviewing weapons with enhanced perks.
Honestly I'm not a hand cannon guy because I'm terrible with them, but Austringer feels so good. Personally my favorite 140.
As someone that despises 140s, I can't wait to get a good roll and try it out. Have yet to find a single 140 I've enjoyed, but still lookin
I like the cowboy esthetic so I’ve been forcing myself to get better with hand cannons lol my personal favorites are the dire promise and sun shot and god I’m excited to finally get an Austringer
So glad this hand cannon came back. Grinded chests like an animal until I got that last pattern. Here's hoping other weapons make a return! *cough cough* Black Armory *cough cough*
I got 2 from chests and 3 from focusing them in the helm, I would like to think that focusing is more likely to drop a red
@@jahfart69 "RNG"
I got 2 red borders from 5 focuses and 3 from running chests. I know a lot of people who have already focused over 20 and still haven't had more than 1 red border drop though.
Personally I would go for Corkscrew, ricochet, EotS, Rangefinder, range masterwork. This ads a total of 20 range, 20 stability, and 10 handling. Beautiful well-rounded stats
Fluted >
18 stat points 🙌
Cork is 15 and is the second best barrel in the game. Totally slept on
Love the gun and love that its in the kinetic slot. I've needed a top tier kinetic handconnon for a LONG time. I'm also sure other (non kinetic) craftable hand cannons will still have their place as they introduce more perks that synergies with the subclasses (headstone, repulsor brace, incandescent). Hope they release a new void handcannon soon as I never managed to get a decent palindrome for my void pvp build.
I hope they don't go overboard with craftable handcannons. I can see one for the energy slot but I think they should have a total limit of 3 (for each RPM). It makes the ones you can craft that much more valuable.
me too. I've been looking for my forever handcannon ever since my better devil's became useless after the sunset. and with this I can finally have my ideal gun and ditch the rest. well except for the stasis one. it's got Encore on it.
Fatebringer.. is top tier...
@@funnystranger3380 one that I didn't care to grind for
@@Djerunk rip at lest you can grind it infinitely you can get 100 a day if you want
I'm planning on having 2 Rolls. I've got my PVE/All Rounder Roll already crafted & when I have more Ascendant Alloy I'll start Crafting the PVP All-star Roll.
Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced Outlaw, Enhanced Rampage, Range MW. 68 Range, 78 Stability, 49 Handling. Not too shabby!
PVP Roll, I had planned on Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced EOTS, Enhanced Opening Shot, Range MW but I'm seeing a LOT of people, even folks that aren't the greatest fan of Rangefinder on other HC's saying how good it is. Opening Shot is obviously your first shot, Rangefinder supposedly gives you that sticky feeling on your whole magazine so definitely seems like the way to go!
Very happy we have Austringer back & I'm happy I got to recreate my old PVE Workhorse! I also love that there's a big difference in perk choices between Austringer & Eyasluna! My favourite Eyasluna has Heating Up & Headstone VEEEEERRRY different to Outlaw x Rampage haha.
Just crafted this can't wait for enhanced perks 😂
rangerfinder is getting nerfed hard next season, so maybe use opening shot
i actually went with extended barrel over hammer forged, because you get the same range benefit but 100 recoil direction, and handling isn't an issue for me because i ALWAYS use ophidian aspects.
sooooooo happy the Austringer is back, was totally gutted when the sunset it.
The sparkling on the austringer on the inspect screen *chef kiss* editor lmao
I'm 80 opulent keys deep and 40 umbrals focused and still haven't got 5 red frame austringers...gg Bungie...gg
For those that don’t know, the Opulent Weapon ornaments will be appearing in the bright dust shop through the season. I believe Fixed Odds ornaments is in there rn. Next week is one the two austringer has, not Prized Ivory tho.
broken bird is better than ivory
Prized Ivory is going to be available week 7 according to today in destiny.
@@afri2n agreed
already another banger. cross' voice is like fine wine: gets better as the time passes
Thanks for the testing Cross !
I miss my spare rations. It sounded the best. It was snappy. Great damage and range. Wish it had better ornaments. The main gun is good design is good and the right perks your set. I gotta farm out a good austringer. What’s the best place to farm it?
For people wondering about that ornament he has on his austringer it will be sold for 700 bright dust at a later date in the season.
I’m salty that I missed it
I personally went with smallbore to make up for going with hcr over ricochet rounds and it feels fantastic.
Hey cross, take a look at wardens law hand cannon. It is a 120 that hasn’t been touch by any damage nerfs and can 2 tap with kill clip(I believe 105 to the head) and it stacks with radiant for 135 crit
All 120s one shit with Kill Clip, it was rampage 2 taps that they dealt with before with the nerfs.
@@jayarends4966 “one shit” 😂
The issue with Wardens Law is because it fires two bullets at the same time, missing one bullet drastically reduces TTK. Now I haven’t touched it since Forsaken so I’m not sure if it’s changed in anyway shape or form because at one point it was my favorite HC and most used but as better 120s dropped the inconsistency of Wardens Law became more and more glaring
I just got a roll last night with fluted, extended barrel, armor pierce, richochet, triple tap, rangefinder and a range masterwork. One of the best rolls I have ever gotten for a handcannon.
Prized Ivory will be available week 7 for bright dust according to the EV calendar. We should be getting the Broken Bird ornament next week.
And if you add the Maroon Moon shader to the ornament, Austringer can look almost identical to Eyasluna.
Holy shit I’m in this video!!! Bulletembracer in twilight gap getting destroyed 😂
Currently sitting at 4 red boxes. All from this weekend of playing. Can’t wait for the last one
Dude opening shot and eye if the storm though. Ltierly always accuracy
Cross rocking the Heihachi helm.
I think I'ma be the only person that heard this slip up, but dfa has only been in d2, I thought it was just funny that you said one of my favorite hand cannons from d1
I went with demolitionist on mine for pve to compliment my Starfire protocol double grenade, double explosion build. In any rift, it's continuous high end damage with no breaks. Grenade, 4 shots, grenade, 4 shots, on and on. No reloads. Essentially a rockets worth of damage every 3 seconds between shots
The first one that dropped for me (that of COURSE wasn't a red box) was a rampage with eye and stability. Unfortunately both barrel perks are questionable. (Fluted and arrow).
I'm a big fan of handling so I'd enjoy the Fluted, but smallbore would probably be better
Fluted is amazing trust
@@Susthecat Yeah but it's range is lacking super hard overall... If it at least had a range MW it wouldn't be as bad. I'm honestly afraid to try it in PvP knowing I'll lose so many engagements due to the lack of range...
Legit haven't ever seen a HC which such low range.
I'm not sure what frame to use. I want to try out different ones, but they're expensive. Does it need the range? Should I push the stability more? Add some reload speed or handling? I don't think cross said what frame he's using on it
This baby single handedly got me my Iron Lord title this weekend! Love it ❤️
I need to grind Austringers out. I have a Fatebringer with Eye of the Storm and Killing Wind, it’s one of my top dueling hand cannons by far due to how stabile it gets. For me eye of the storm and zen moment will be really good, as a console player I don’t go for massive range. I look for those closer/mid range duels or I’ll close the range when someone tries dueling out of my comfort zone. Outlaw/Demo would be one of my top PVE choices
They should’ve brought midnight coup back but have cool skin on it
I have the normal Austringer with Opening Shot and Eye of the Storm. As for magazine it's either Appended Mag or High-Caliber Rounds and for the barrel, Hammer-Forged Rifling.
Something I both love and hate right now is how many 140 hand cannons we have fighting for the top spot in the kinetic slot. Personally my favorites are dire promise and lumina. But we have eyasluna, austringer, fate bringer, and dire promise. Dire promise I would say stats wise is the weakest but feels the best to me. I'm not sure why it feels like it has a larger hit box or something. Anyways the things I really don't like are that fatebringer, eyasluna, and austringer all have the same sound. Come on Bungie please make new kinetic hand cannon sounds. The other thing is that we don't really have a competition in the energy slot. It's palindrome or cantata but palindrome easily wins this an easy fix for this is buffing all the other energy 140s (waking vigil, nation of beats, crisis inverted, finite impactor, ancient gospel, annual skate) to be in line. I name all of these just to show how many energy 140s we have that just can't compete with pali. And I might have even missed a couple.
You not wrong there’s a lot of handcannons 😂
Very 1st Opulent Chest I opened this season gifted me Austringer with Chambered compensator, Ricochet rounds, Eye of the Storm and Zen Moment. It's been an absolute blast to use 💯 %
So this was my favorite hand cannon on mouse and keyboard ever. When it was sunset I was genuinely upset. But now, it’s back and better. A friend said I should just get eyasluna. But I say fuck eyasluna I just want Austringer. My old roll was EotS opening shot and I loved it. I’m even using a outlaw rampage roll for pve. So glad it’s back
About what you said regarding zen moment. Zen moment works by reducing the amount of visual recoil/screen shake the weapon gives you when fired and has no bearing on your actual stability stat (unless this was changed under the hood)
Bro the cost of enhanced perks is ridiculous! Lol your comments getting more and more intense had me cracking up 😂
My season of opulence PVP roll was eye of the storm zen moment, and it served me well. I used eye of the storm with demolition it’s in PVE. I’m only one gun away before I can go craft crazy!
Haven't managed to craft mine yet as grinding the leviathan for deepsights started to burn me out. Luckily I only need one more red border austringer and it's guaranteed with the upgrade to the crown that guarantees one on first weapon focus per week. Oddly enough I remember not actually liking austringer back in season of the opulence but maybe it's because I never got that "god roll" and it was always a 3/5 because my rng was ass. Gonna be nice to have a solid 5/5 HC for once as my luck has never allowed for me to get that perfect handcannon roll and for the times I've use even the random drops of it I've gotten it did feel great. Got both ornaments of it already as well and prized ivory is certainly the way to go.
I have 3 rolls that i've been messing around with the most:
- Arrowhead brake/Hammer Forged, High cal/Flared magwell, Snapshot sights, Rangefinder
- Arrowhead brake/Full bore, Appended/Light mag, Outlaw, Opening shot
- Corkscrew/Smallbore, Armor piercing/High cal, EotS, Zen moment
I use my SS/Rangefinder roll the most in PvP. I like the way it feels but i like the way the Outlaw/Opening Shot feels too. I've had horrible luck getting attuned versions to drop but i'll be playing around with an EotS/Rangefinder and Outlaw/Rangefinder rolls when i get there.
It might be because of the roll on my eyasluna (HCS, RR, Rangefinder, Moving target), but Austringer feels on par with it IMHO.
I like Austringer but I love my Garden of Salvation hand cannon with eye of the storm and rangefinder more it's fire 🔥
My friends and I are in this video! I'm Grimalkin. :)
What bonus do you put for the frame , I decided to just put handling just to be safe.
@Aztecross what's the masterwork you used? if I craft the same, stability does not seem to be going that high.
Question about diferent topic
Are we going to lose our progress in iron banner?
I got really lucky and got a eye of the storm / opening shot roll while farming for it. My red border luck for this weapon is awful and I only have 1/5 rn
Since when did Dire Promise have a 13 zoom? Did they change it this season?
Is rangefinder still the go-to with recent changes?
Your using my exact roll of this yesss
I've had this for the beginning of the week
i hate how weapon crafting is so discouraged because of the cost. it makes most players go " well i don't really know what the best roll is gonna be, and I don't have the resources to craft and recraft them until I find it, i might as well wait for the Aztecross video so I know what to go for." it's very frustrating but you are doinga service to the community at large
prized ivory ornament is on the eververse calendar this season for bright dust FYI (week 7)
I don’t know why it feels so good to me but my role is outlaw/opening. I love the snappiness and the dueling capabilities.
I got a pretty nice Austringer roll from the Crown this week (Full Bore, Ricochet, Snapshot, Rangefinder, Stability MW) which has basically become my main kinetic for PVP now (during Iron Banner, at least). Even after I get all 5 patterns for the weapon and craft it, I'm still keeping that roll in my vault.
that ornament drops for 700 bright dust on July 5th!!
Range is no longer king...
I've been waiting to hear those words for a very long time now. That's also my exact Austringer rolls. Well done brother, great video
which grip should I pick for this, isn't there handling ?
That 99 stability crafted austringer got me actin up🥵🥵
Small bore > hammer forged. Trust me that stability is way better for stickiness. Stability = range effectiveness and headshot accuracy at range for hc's
Finally got my first austringer on my 24th chest and it was a rangefinder snapshot + a Redbox
Hey Cross I'm a kinda new view and I have tried your eye of the storm, rangefinder, with ricochet rounds, and hammerfordge. But I think u should try out fluted barrel instead of hammerfordge because of the handling and stability bump it gives.
I agree. I like both of them, specially Fluted barrel. It depends on your playstyle and what weapon you pair it with. People running HC + Shotgun prefer getting those extra 0.5~2 m on their hand cannons so their primary covers the widest range band possible (15-35m). You should be running a pulse or scout rifle at those ranges IMO, but hand cannons are the best primaries by design. Watch "Why Hand Cannons Will Always Be Meta" by Ascendant Nomad if you haven't.
@@WeissM89 Ya I use shotgun most of the time but I am also a much more aggressive player so range isn't something that I don't rlly care about but that stability that you get can get on it feels way better than hammerforged and I will watch the video. Thank u for the recommandation
Been waiting on you & Drew to post something lol
Nice to have a primary kinetic that handles well and we can tailor it to suit use. What's not to like. Stability seems to be the go for hand cannons and SMGs right now and as a dirty controller user (hurts hands less than KB+Mouse) I appreciate the distinction.
For those wondering, Prized Ivory will be available for BD on the 7rh week of the season according to TodayInDestiny's eververse calendar
this gun seems like a hybrid between the Eyasluna and Fatebringer, I haven’t had the chance to use one but after wasting countless hours farming my God Roll Eyasluna turns out I’m just not comfortable using those types of hand cannons, same goes for Fatebringer, I got a God Roll Timelost that I strictly use for PvE not PvP. so i’m worried i’m going to spent an infinite amount of time farming this gun just to be disappointed AGAIN. my type of hand cannons are Cantata and Palindrome
You won't be dissapointed in Austringer. I have a TLFB as well and yes, it's my PVE hc, but Austringer is much better in PVP.
Imo eyasluna is either equivalent or little better so there’s no point in austringer if u have a godroll luna. Just depends on what perks you like better as both have different sets but both already have RF anyway.
I just got back into the game after a year long break. I’m not sure if I should go farm eyesluna, palindrome, or Austringer. I’m a controller pc player. Tried to play mnk for a few days straight and I just can’t after play controller on console for the entirety of d1 and most of d2, just feels too natural to me to play on controller. That being said I’ve been defaulting to last word adhored, tracking module rocket with 100 blast radius, and I’m now looking to farm some 140s since mine are all meh. Which of the 3 do you guys recommend I go for and what rolls?
Fatebringer(timelost) still my favorite. But once I get my crafted austringer. Might change my list.
Been watching reviews of this gun but what stood out to me is the gameplay from DFPSheikh with his Eyasluna with perpetual motion and harmony, a super high stability roll. Eyasluna in his gameplay just looks so crispy, I feel like it's the massive amount of stability there. I haven't played in a while so I can't compare these two myself but I feel like it's definitely worth a comparison.
sheikh is goated with everything lmao
Luna is my Favorite hands down
I have to do opening shot for pvp. Rangefinder doesnt feel good on Austringer to me. But I love it. With specific rolls, its the best kinetic. I outgun palis because I play my range correctly. Opening shot puts my on my first shot so I can follow up, its amazing.
Lol I've never really noticed or paid that much attention to frame rates cause I've always played on xbox, but watching him run around the new map looks like a movie and I get the difference between good frames n bad frames now
Cross, what about going with small bore vs hammer forged? 3 less range for 7 more stability
Week of July 5th reset, the ornament will be purchasable for BD in the EV according to Today In Destiny, and I fully intend to buy it when it's out!
The ornament will be available for bright dust sometime this season.
Also tell me what shader that was pls and thanks dad
I have 1k+ kills on all of the top dog 140 hand cannons in the game currently and this one feels the best for me right now. With Eye of the Storm+Rangefinder it feels so consistent. Even when Eye of the Storm isn’t active this gun feels like it has the easiest time landing shots after the first shot and I like that a lot.
Eyasluna is better for pve I mean unrelenting headstone is god tier in pve, and you can argue that eye of the storm is a better perk than moving target(that’ll be a good argument). But eyasluna has more range than austringer ( it can also get great stability) remember austringer was just an eyasluna replacement when we didn’t have eyasluna. Basically if you don’t have a godroll eyasluna get austringer.
The ornaments for the menagerie weapons are for sale in the Eververse shop every week now from this week on. Each week one weapon. This week it’s the heavy machine gun next week I believe it’s either beloved or Austringer
Prized Ivory with Valkarie Zero shader is beautiful. A sort of Austrorapter lite
So what masterwork would go nicely with eye/rangefinder?
If "Range has taken a back seat" then run Smallbore... You get a boost to range and stability... Yeah the range is less than Hammer Forged, but it's barely noticeable when engaging... Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced EOTS, Enhanced Rangefinder is the roll you want to craft... Obviously with a Range MW 👍
I went fluted, rico, eye and os for mine. Might try rangefinder, but my old autsring was eye os
Well I'll have this gun in the back of my mind if they ever revert the AE changes.
Can't say I've had a drive to play destiny since those changes but hey, just gotta keep looking for other games to get my fix on.
Why not smallbore instead of hammer forged? More stability coupled with the range stat.
Crafted The Austringer 6/1/2022 already have over 400 pvp kills now time to focus on the Beloved
2:14 What website are you using to compare stats like that? jw thanks in advance :D
Fun Fact the prized Ivory Ornament is coming for bright dust in today's Weekly reset