Tip for anyone looking to use manticore. When you're in air and running low on anti-grav, start moving towards cover for you to drop behind. The moment you run out of anit-grav the ads will start to shred you, this strat has saved me so much with it.
I remember talking about how Manticore is beyond slept on just last week and people were saying this doesn't work in high level content and no one should use it. People don't realize just how potent this rework was and how good it really is.
@@Kinterlude Yeah, I keep tryna get people to use the Manticore but I get treated like im some dude in 2014 trying to convince people to get this cool rocket launcher Xur is selling. Manticore is even more potent with the new Mask of the Quiet one.
+100% from manticore, +100% from peacekeepers go crazy together and if i remember correctly SMGs lose less damage from attacking high level combatants but don't quote me on that last one.
@@natethefox1921 People are so insistent it's not meta because they keep wanting to use the same things is wild. Happy Cross called it out about people refusing to give new things a chance to stick to old metas.
I saw some mad lad running Manticore with Astrocyte on Warlock. He was flyin and teleportin all over the place. I wasn't even mad when he dumpstered our team 3 games in a row.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 makes blink go further, allows you to ready weapons quicker out of a blink, and releases a volatile void explosion when you blink
Graviton is one of those weapons that I feel like we don’t need to see in build battles. It’s almost never about the build as a whole but more about graviton doing 90% of the work.
Fr bro Graviton is the "Idc anymore bro I just want that Pathfinder done" weapon for me. When I want my brain to partially shut down I switch to Graviton and let rooms clear themselves.
"erm my build is super duper gooder and stuff" -graviton -volatile rounds -edge transit its a great weapon but its the safest choice for a build, and that makes it a little boring. Kinda like ordering food from mcdonalds, you know it is gonna be the same anywhere you go
Graviton can work in builds easily. The problem is people tend to just spam the gun rather than use the build. Mask of the Quiet One pairs with Graviton extremely well and you can make a grenade build with it. A few others guns are like that too.
There is absolutely still a place for straight Void subclasses. Prismatic is fun and powerful. Void has more synergy and survivability with devour/invis. Nice to go back and use it every now and then for some builds.
My gyrfalcons build is 10x more potent on pure void. Sure losing transcendence is a little tough but so much more worth it for the extra potency. That’s kinda the way I’ve been looking at pure element vs prismatic.
@bornofstardust5910 100% I carried my new light friends through starcrossed and encore with weaken and overshields for days from second chance and nades/ barricades. Also helps we have the new axe super to actually have some damage, and the taunting is nice on barricade too.
Unpopular opinion- graviton is a great primary but it’s boring as fuck. It puts me to sleep when people use it. It’s the equivalent of pasta and jarred sauce for dinner, like yeah it’s good but jfc every night?!
The downside of using meta stuff all the time. Puts me to sleep. That’s why for online games I always use the non meta stuff that’s good but not too top tier. Makes it a little challenging and never gets boring to me.
Glad im not the only one thinking like this 😂 I mean, I love my outbreak perfected, and when i see someone else with it i smile. But graviton is.. It's a cool weapon and all, but 24/7? Hell no 😅 I preferably use my Zaouli's Bane in that slot.
If your gonna use that manticore built use it with offensive bulwark and unbreakable. Unbreakable while flying in the air is hilarious. This is one of the favorite builds I made at the beginning of the episode.
Wouldn't manticore make the enemies more inaccurate? Then subsequently, wouldn't you need need enemies to shoot your unbreakable shield? On the surface it doesn't sound too compatible, but has it done well for you?
I like to rock Mountaintop with the Peacekeeper Manticore build. Mostly to rocket-jump whether higher or back launching. It synergizes well with the build.
That Manticore build is almost verbatim to what I use. Instead of Peacekeepers I use Mask. Helps with ability uptime and stuff and gives good health regen/overshields when low HP. I don't mind the lower damage output for more survivability.
Same Mask really helps keep u alive in mid air. The damage from peacekeeper is great but requires u to stay on target for awhile before kicking in. Mask lets me be a lot more mobile
Stowing the SMG refills the mag after one second. If you get stuck facing a reload, just pull another weapon for a sec. Maybe lob a volley of Lost Signal to CC something.
I think the biggest issue with that hunter build is death throes doesnt really seem like the best call for them. The mag grenade does do good damage albeit the only hunter prismatic that does but its still not really a good grenade. I wish hunters got the tripmine instead of swarm for solar, that would be a good death throes pairing
@@tcritty2812 facts there are so many exotics with this issue but none of them reload as often as the manticore (except fighting lion, but you can negate that reload entirely with the right build).
I used the first build its actually a lot of fun. I threw my own twist on it and now i am unstoppable. It carried me through a solo grand master nightfall
@@serafinvalencia2618I changed the grenade to magnetic and maxed out both resilience and discipline. It brought my grenades back in fifteen seconds. And allowed me to be in the air longer when not directly using manticore itself. Grenade kills gave me volatile rounds.
I've been rocking this similar manticore build since the peacekeepers got buffed but added fragments that grenade weakens targets and grenade final blows grant volitile rounds to your void weapons. add mods that increase void weapon reload speed and reduce flinch while aiming. You'll get constant over shields, damage, grenade spam that weakens and volitile explosions!
Same. Especially 100 grenade and perks to get nade back. I had the same reload problem, but someone just mentioned stowing the gun for a sec they it reloads and Iv been playing with this for 2 days and forgot all about that😅
Titan build: Utilizes the new buffs to peacekeepers and pure void to get maximum use of the buffed void overshield to do some crazy damage with good survivability. What’s the competition? Hunter: Well I got graviton lance and- Titan: I’ve heard enough.
It's been a while since a build has SURPRISED the community to this extent. This is truly excellent! I'm gonna try running it in a dungeon to see if it's viable in endgame content as well 💜
You need to check out Hullabaloo as your GL. I have left one in my vault since the last event that ABSOLUTELY shreds with the right build. Volatile Launch, High Velocity, Enhanced Voltshot, Enhanced Chain Reaction, Classy Contender. Since it's a wave frame, I can clear out Sectors and Onslaught waves in just a couple of shots. I have NEVER given wave frames a chance until the mods were GL focused this season. This thing is absolutely crushing it this season.
now that i have seen someone use peacekeepers with manticore this finally gave me a reason to try the build idea on it that i had during echoes, i just didnt want to use manticore because i didnt think it would be good at the time
@@Ryuko-Matoi1023 yea the people in this community refuse to give most exotics a chance due to how they launched, like the titan and hunter glaives are really good
We need air support and we need it now. Roll in strike package Bravo on unknown Headless One. I authenticate Tango Whiskey at time zero-three-hundred Zulu.
I like huckleberry because i can run velocity baton with it, one thing to note about peacekeepers is it gives smg’s auto loading, so fire off a area denial instead of reloading
I've been a Manticore lover since it's latest catalyst buff. Peacekeepers makes it even stronger. Definitely a sleeper pick, glad people are starting to notice
oh yeah i've been running a volatile/grenadier build with manticore/peacekeeprs since the season started. it's my fav build by far. i run it though with autoloading /recombination mountain top as my special and envious arsenal/bait and switch wicked sister GL (cause i still can't get the god damn VS Inhibitor roll 😂) for dps you can very easily hot potato between all 3 weapons while in the air with manticore and ramp the damage back up for manticore very quickly. it's a very fun build, glad to see it on here!
They need to add sustain for hunter. Letting you generate overshield while invis with stylish equipped would be a good idea. You can then stay invis to make more overshield or come out of it and have the generated amount on the 6 seconds countdown or whatever it is for overshield as default. Generate it at same speed as titan barricade used to before the buff so its not too out of hand.
@ what else do you propose? Hunters have 0 sustain and heal outside of picking up orbs for devour or a healing grenade. Which is same as everyone else. Oh and combination blow which got nerfed not to give full health anymore. Outside of healing grenades its all kill based abilities which is not a good way to proc in end game activities. Titan have overshields via subclass aspects and healing via aspects. Restoration via exotics and aspects. Easy frost armor too. Healing on strand via aspect. Icefall mantles heal and give max frost armor. No cooldown, just spam class ability. warlocks have restoration via aspects and exotic pieces. Juiced up devour via aspects. Easiest frost armor stack. A super that gives 90% DR and lasts forever if you dont spam the abilities. Well of radiance, rifts for healing. Pheonix dive for a heal. Hunters only have invis which allows you to run away and wait for health to come back but it takes you out of the fight. Apart from pre popping GG as an advantage. Every single super does less damage than anything that Warlocks or TItans can do. Tether is the only true unique great option but even then its often not a great choice for boss dps and someone can just use tractor cannon to get the same debuff. I say all of this as I have all 3 characters and have done solo flawless runs with all of them in dungeons so I have a comprehensive experience with what they can all objectively do.
Not an issue if you use Buried Bloodline. Proc devour, make orbs, gets you overshield and should be able to sustain from there. Edit: In addition on prismatic with the class item, HOIL + Cyrtarachne also adds to this to make you really tanky.
@ tanky for 6 seconds. Even with hoil the grenade still takes like 30-50 seconds to recharge depending on discipline. Still doesnt really sustain as no healing. Buried bloodline consumes a whole exotic slot just to get devour. What im saying is the other classes have built in tools into almost every subclass that let you passively accrue DR or Heal. Hunter dont. To get frost armor you need kills. Renewals stack over time. Icefalls and ballidorse gives instant max stacks on class ability cast.
@@damsdee2214 HOIL increases grenade regen, devour increases grenade regen, arm armor mod regens grenade with powered melee, class item mods regen grenade when you pick up an orb (combo with attraction mod). You get your grenade back well within the 6 seconds of woven mail being active. Ability cycle: Grapple nade, grapple melee, stasis melee, dodge (with stasis aspect to freeze or clone to de-agro), stasis melee, grapple in again or grapple out to safety. All while going in and out of invis so you can choose when you want to fully disengage. Empowered abilities x2 will be up always, void over shield or frost armor will also be active. Buried Bloodline is just there as a safety net in lesser add dense scenarios. And Buried Bloodline will be have volatile rounds after you get a kill with grapple melee.
Bungie needs to have terrabah keep the exact amount of beast charge you've built up when switching off it. I run double smg w pks and it's annoying basically never being able to use the beast in that way when the whole point of pks is run n gun
I agree. i also have been using double smg PK since before the buff to PK. You are nerfing yourself just to use double smg. It shouldnt remove the damage increase if you are switching between smg's
@@truv_Tarrabah never held its full charge. But yes they are reluctant to buff it because of PvP. But tbh they already nerfed its passive gains by a lot and its base form isn’t that strong anymore. I really don’t see it becoming an issue. Or give it a rewind round catalyst.
As a Titan main who started playing the other classes beginning of LF, it’s good to see my punchy boys get some love and be back on top. Even if it’s just for this episode idc 😂
for anyone just trying builds in the haunted lost sectors, try young ahamkara spine again with: Aspects: Gunpowder Gamble KeD Fragments: Char Eruption Solace Ashes Blistering Blade Barrage, acrobat dodge, knife trick. A weapon with wellspring and demo, is on ogma PR6 from banshee
Man, the Huckleberry and peacekeeper is by far my favorite build i get that using the Manticore makes more sense due to it is void but bro it's hard to let go of the Huckleberry.
I've been using this with Huckleberry and GOD it is really fun to see it shred (you just need heal on orb pick up), while with Manticore you can just proc constant overshield. Both are good, but for different reasons. Huckleberry shreds ANYTHING, dude I was killing yellow bars like they were red.
When he finally tries it with huckleberry he’s going ask why no one told him. I’ve been messing with PKs on all subclasses and many SMGs since I’m an SMG main. Huckleberry fcks. Also another note. Have an auto loading GL because you can swap back and forth without ever having to reload. You wait half a second before switching back or Nam load every other swap. That with bait and switch heavy bosses melt.
Just Void & Stasis plus tonic booster, i use headstone Yarovit smg with Special ammo finder, Choir and the Pinnacle Void Caster sword for FOL Lost sectors. Goes hard 👊
I'm SOOOOO tired of Consecration spam at this point, same as I'm tired of Combination Blow Liar/Caliban spam on Hunter. I wanna use GUNS again lol. Warlock is close with the Getaway arc buddy/stacy build but at least you shoot the frozen enemys on that class lol. Strand Titan is my main and while yes I melee.....A LOT, it's still not just Consecration over and over and over and over lol. I get Banner of War proceed and Woven Mail so I can survive using close range weapons and utilize surges and such and usually an Eager Edge sword for movement and the dmg buff of Banner. Consecration is just melee focused only, nothing buffing or utlizing weapons at all and when you're out of a melee charge you're basically a sitting duck unless you have Trancendant build up for it's get out of jail free nade. I love the Peacekeepers buff as it makes weapon builds viable again. Smgs have been nerfed, and other weapons buffed, so much that they're basically bottom of the barrel in terms of dps despite needing to be up close to use them so having a way to make them strong again is fun. They do need an overall buff though, ESPECIALLY the legendaries so they can be useful on other classes. Bungie would probably nerf Peacekeepers to comensate some of they did get a global buff though.
Personally with Spirit of Verity I would use Gunpowder instead of Winter's Shroud since he has Verity on. U could get better dmg with the magnetic grenade and have the Gunpowder Gamble for big boom(works with Verity if u didn't know).
It works even though it's solar? Verity should only work with the element matching your super, but I could see this being a Bungie moment and it works because you have a void grenade on
The hunter one is very good. I’ve been using NS Graviton since WQ. MT and ET since into the light. It only sucks when you’ve ran out of ammo and only have graviton for damage.
I remember when we used to use Manticore and Wings of Sacred Down for the extra damage resistance lol. Now with that armor solar wepaons reload on kill, maybe someone could make a build with a solar smg like tarrabah?
The rework to Manticore that makes enemies lose accuracy on you while you are airborne definitely shows in this video
Yea at 23:10 mark it's very obvious
And that overshield buff.
@@Hungren1The boss is purposely missing😭
Tip for anyone looking to use manticore. When you're in air and running low on anti-grav, start moving towards cover for you to drop behind. The moment you run out of anit-grav the ads will start to shred you, this strat has saved me so much with it.
I noticed that myself as well.
I've never seen manticore shred a yellow bar this quick
Its gotten like 5 buffs since release but yh its pretty good
I remember talking about how Manticore is beyond slept on just last week and people were saying this doesn't work in high level content and no one should use it. People don't realize just how potent this rework was and how good it really is.
@@Kinterlude Yeah, I keep tryna get people to use the Manticore but I get treated like im some dude in 2014 trying to convince people to get this cool rocket launcher Xur is selling.
Manticore is even more potent with the new Mask of the Quiet one.
+100% from manticore, +100% from peacekeepers go crazy together and if i remember correctly SMGs lose less damage from attacking high level combatants but don't quote me on that last one.
@@natethefox1921 People are so insistent it's not meta because they keep wanting to use the same things is wild. Happy Cross called it out about people refusing to give new things a chance to stick to old metas.
“Nothing to give us back our health.” He’s literally proccing devour on every orb pickup.
I was gonna say lol, I see Devour up almost the entire time
its extra funny because it heals on orb pick up too, also the void rifts if you makes those lol
+ controlled demolition, everyone forgets it just outright heals you for volatile explosions
Manticore + PKs has been my go-to PVP build for a while now. It never gets old how many messages I get saying, "I forgot that gun ever existed." Lol
It's super jarring when someone doesn't move as expected. Being able to be airborne like that and highly controlled is a nasty trick
I saw some mad lad running Manticore with Astrocyte on Warlock. He was flyin and teleportin all over the place. I wasn't even mad when he dumpstered our team 3 games in a row.
Problem is, it only works once.
After that they expect you and you'll get anhilated.
For pve tho..'chefs kiss'
@@art_7151
@@V1rtualFlodwhat does Astrocyte do again?
@@jakespacepiratee3740 makes blink go further, allows you to ready weapons quicker out of a blink, and releases a volatile void explosion when you blink
5 mins in that manticore build is cooking holy shit
IKR bro im blown away.
Graviton is one of those weapons that I feel like we don’t need to see in build battles. It’s almost never about the build as a whole but more about graviton doing 90% of the work.
Fr bro Graviton is the "Idc anymore bro I just want that Pathfinder done" weapon for me. When I want my brain to partially shut down I switch to Graviton and let rooms clear themselves.
"erm my build is super duper gooder and stuff"
-graviton
-volatile rounds
-edge transit
its a great weapon but its the safest choice for a build, and that makes it a little boring. Kinda like ordering food from mcdonalds, you know it is gonna be the same anywhere you go
Graviton + invis…. A tale as old as time. gyrfalcons would have been a better play imo but we’ve seen that a lot
Honestly the ex diris is even more obnoxious for build battles. We've seen 100 builds with them and it's an automatic win from chat
Graviton can work in builds easily. The problem is people tend to just spam the gun rather than use the build. Mask of the Quiet One pairs with Graviton extremely well and you can make a grenade build with it. A few others guns are like that too.
There is absolutely still a place for straight Void subclasses. Prismatic is fun and powerful. Void has more synergy and survivability with devour/invis. Nice to go back and use it every now and then for some builds.
Was just thinking today I hope they buff light subclasses a lil after they finish collecting TFS money
My Second Chance build does not work nearly as well on Pris as it does on Void. Void Titan FUCKS.
Fr, just made a build with skull of dire ahamkara and vexcalibur, find it super fun
My gyrfalcons build is 10x more potent on pure void. Sure losing transcendence is a little tough but so much more worth it for the extra potency. That’s kinda the way I’ve been looking at pure element vs prismatic.
@bornofstardust5910 100% I carried my new light friends through starcrossed and encore with weaken and overshields for days from second chance and nades/ barricades. Also helps we have the new axe super to actually have some damage, and the taunting is nice on barricade too.
Unpopular opinion- graviton is a great primary but it’s boring as fuck. It puts me to sleep when people use it. It’s the equivalent of pasta and jarred sauce for dinner, like yeah it’s good but jfc every night?!
Amen brother.
Agreed, playing with someone using it makes the game unplayable
The downside of using meta stuff all the time. Puts me to sleep.
That’s why for online games I always use the non meta stuff that’s good but not too top tier. Makes it a little challenging and never gets boring to me.
Yep. And for whatever reason the k thung k thung k thung starts wearing on me after awhile.
Glad im not the only one thinking like this 😂 I mean, I love my outbreak perfected, and when i see someone else with it i smile. But graviton is.. It's a cool weapon and all, but 24/7? Hell no 😅 I preferably use my Zaouli's Bane in that slot.
If your gonna use that manticore built use it with offensive bulwark and unbreakable. Unbreakable while flying in the air is hilarious. This is one of the favorite builds I made at the beginning of the episode.
How are you going to be flying in the air while holding unbreakable and not shooting manticore?
@ Once you stop shooting you have about 6 seconds of flying time after being in the air from shooting the weapon.
Dam. I hope I never see a flying unbreakable titan going thru the air in crucible😬
Wouldn't manticore make the enemies more inaccurate? Then subsequently, wouldn't you need need enemies to shoot your unbreakable shield? On the surface it doesn't sound too compatible, but has it done well for you?
@@no1knows87 bro its a meme build
IMHO this video format is just genius, keep it up man!
I like to rock Mountaintop with the Peacekeeper Manticore build. Mostly to rocket-jump whether higher or back launching. It synergizes well with the build.
Back launching?? I think I've been doing this by accident all day
@ it’s good for if you bit off more you can chew and need to back the hell up
@@GavinLIVE715 I get that but what Is it tho?
@@Beastmann69420I think he means shooting while close to the enemy to knock yourself away instead of up
That Manticore build is almost verbatim to what I use. Instead of Peacekeepers I use Mask. Helps with ability uptime and stuff and gives good health regen/overshields when low HP. I don't mind the lower damage output for more survivability.
Right? Crazy how void titan has actual options now
More damage means you have to survive less 😉😉
Same Mask really helps keep u alive in mid air. The damage from peacekeeper is great but requires u to stay on target for awhile before kicking in. Mask lets me be a lot more mobile
Yeah but he was getting overshields every time he killed something in air, so in theory the more dmg the more overshields
I thought I was original making this build today😮💨
Cross's face when playing the AC130 is exactly how I felt when I tried it. "why is this so awesome and so broken?"
i think u should put on void reloader on arms just for manticore, its got a pretty slow reload and no reload perk to help it outside of antigrav
Stowing the SMG refills the mag after one second. If you get stuck facing a reload, just pull another weapon for a sec. Maybe lob a volley of Lost Signal to CC something.
@@art_7151even then it’s beneficial to run a void reloader just for manticore if you’re in midair and don’t want to deactivate anti grav repulsors
The sound effects are top-notch. Give the editor a raise 😂
I think the biggest issue with that hunter build is death throes doesnt really seem like the best call for them. The mag grenade does do good damage albeit the only hunter prismatic that does but its still not really a good grenade. I wish hunters got the tripmine instead of swarm for solar, that would be a good death throes pairing
Your the only reason I still play this game you beautiful man
I feel my cells aging with each manticore reload
Makes it unusable for me lmao
@@tcritty2812 facts
there are so many exotics with this issue but none of them reload as often as the manticore (except fighting lion, but you can negate that reload entirely with the right build).
@@KormitTheFrag use a void loader. PK literally reloads it for you.
@@tcritty2812 use a void loader. PK literally reloads it for you.
But he has peace keepers on? Just switch weapons for 1 second.
I used the first build its actually a lot of fun. I threw my own twist on it and now i am unstoppable. It carried me through a solo grand master nightfall
What is thy twist?
What twist you talking about. Also I ran it thru lightblade gm solo and was floored at how strong it is ngl
@@serafinvalencia2618I changed the grenade to magnetic and maxed out both resilience and discipline. It brought my grenades back in fifteen seconds. And allowed me to be in the air longer when not directly using manticore itself. Grenade kills gave me volatile rounds.
I've been rocking this similar manticore build since the peacekeepers got buffed but added fragments that grenade weakens targets and grenade final blows grant volitile rounds to your void weapons. add mods that increase void weapon reload speed and reduce flinch while aiming. You'll get constant over shields, damage, grenade spam that weakens and volitile explosions!
Same. Especially 100 grenade and perks to get nade back.
I had the same reload problem, but someone just mentioned stowing the gun for a sec they it reloads and Iv been playing with this for 2 days and forgot all about that😅
Bro I’ve been rocking a manticore build like this for a while, feels cool to see others use it
exceptional editing and wonderfully informative video, thank you mr cross
Titan build: Utilizes the new buffs to peacekeepers and pure void to get maximum use of the buffed void overshield to do some crazy damage with good survivability. What’s the competition?
Hunter: Well I got graviton lance and-
Titan: I’ve heard enough.
destiny youtube majorly lacks videos like this. hats off to you aztecross, this is unique destiny content that is worth watching
I’ve been preaching this type of game play since forever
Should've pitted it against a hunter manticore build with St0mp-EE5. It's a good pairing for airborne survivability!
It's been a while since a build has SURPRISED the community to this extent. This is truly excellent! I'm gonna try running it in a dungeon to see if it's viable in endgame content as well 💜
You need to check out Hullabaloo as your GL. I have left one in my vault since the last event that ABSOLUTELY shreds with the right build. Volatile Launch, High Velocity, Enhanced Voltshot, Enhanced Chain Reaction, Classy Contender. Since it's a wave frame, I can clear out Sectors and Onslaught waves in just a couple of shots. I have NEVER given wave frames a chance until the mods were GL focused this season. This thing is absolutely crushing it this season.
Yeah it's slept on I can stun lock bosses with envious and cascade point
im newer to destiny 2 and that manticore is the like the one build im actually able to get cause i have 1 dlc, holy shit this is actually so fun
Been using peacekeepers and maticore when ever I'm off stasis
Those fart noises just made this editor the Goat.
The thing that got me was the shield throw whiff “can we get much higher” song edit. Was hilarious and perfect 😂
now that i have seen someone use peacekeepers with manticore this finally gave me a reason to try the build idea on it that i had during echoes, i just didnt want to use manticore because i didnt think it would be good at the time
Manticore has been good for ages man
@BruhExe-kh2bv I rarely see it being used sometimes and I never used it because I wasn't thinking of the applications of it
@@Ryuko-Matoi1023 yea the people in this community refuse to give most exotics a chance due to how they launched, like the titan and hunter glaives are really good
@BruhExe-kh2bv i give some weapons a try when I can I dont have everything still tho so I'm tryin
Who picked the music for video . . . Has it!!! lol I was jammin while running my own hunted lost sectors!! Keep it up boys!
21:30 we've all been there. The pain is real.
og ac130 was the peak build. rip old skyburners, may you never be forgotten
Anybody know the song thats playing at the 7:30 mark? Thank the editors for another banger
The editor deserves a raise...the music is top tier
We need air support and we need it now. Roll in strike package Bravo on unknown Headless One. I authenticate Tango Whiskey at time zero-three-hundred Zulu.
That Titan build looks insanely fun! Going to go give it a spin!
For those who are interested in the music playing at: 2:37, it's Heureka from Lupus Nocte
thanks
got my first exotic class item today from the event, crazy how it was this exact hunter roll and then this video comes out lol
........Destiny.
That Manticore build is insane. I haven't liked that gun since it came out but this setup might actually be a blast to use.
I like huckleberry because i can run velocity baton with it, one thing to note about peacekeepers is it gives smg’s auto loading, so fire off a area denial instead of reloading
How do we submit builds right from UA-cam? Do we have to watch the stream just to upload a build?
Yeah and save up Eggplants, whatever those r...
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see manticore in the spotlight. Thanks bungie for the peacekeeper rework
The smg titan build was new and interesting. The hunter build was mostly the same that void hunters have used for months now. Clear win for the titan
I've been a Manticore lover since it's latest catalyst buff. Peacekeepers makes it even stronger. Definitely a sleeper pick, glad people are starting to notice
I lived to see the day where Manticore would me METAH
DARCI next!
Shaxx, “seeing the first build This guardian this is why I’m a TITAN”
Huckleberry is good with this setup but more so add clear oriented until you get rampage x 3 going, then you can shred tangier enemies.
oh yeah i've been running a volatile/grenadier build with manticore/peacekeeprs since the season started. it's my fav build by far.
i run it though with autoloading /recombination mountain top as my special and envious arsenal/bait and switch wicked sister GL (cause i still can't get the god damn VS Inhibitor roll 😂)
for dps you can very easily hot potato between all 3 weapons while in the air with manticore and ramp the damage back up for manticore very quickly.
it's a very fun build, glad to see it on here!
Why @6:05 was manticore not reloaded? I thought PK did a full reload on stow?
It frequently bugs out if you swap weapons a bunch. Sucks, but it's been that way since forever
They need to add sustain for hunter. Letting you generate overshield while invis with stylish equipped would be a good idea.
You can then stay invis to make more overshield or come out of it and have the generated amount on the 6 seconds countdown or whatever it is for overshield as default.
Generate it at same speed as titan barricade used to before the buff so its not too out of hand.
Kinda unfair making hunter have easy overshield and invis
Overshield should be titan's thing
@ what else do you propose? Hunters have 0 sustain and heal outside of picking up orbs for devour or a healing grenade. Which is same as everyone else. Oh and combination blow which got nerfed not to give full health anymore. Outside of healing grenades its all kill based abilities which is not a good way to proc in end game activities.
Titan have overshields via subclass aspects and healing via aspects. Restoration via exotics and aspects. Easy frost armor too. Healing on strand via aspect. Icefall mantles heal and give max frost armor. No cooldown, just spam class ability.
warlocks have restoration via aspects and exotic pieces. Juiced up devour via aspects. Easiest frost armor stack. A super that gives 90% DR and lasts forever if you dont spam the abilities. Well of radiance, rifts for healing. Pheonix dive for a heal.
Hunters only have invis which allows you to run away and wait for health to come back but it takes you out of the fight.
Apart from pre popping GG as an advantage. Every single super does less damage than anything that Warlocks or TItans can do.
Tether is the only true unique great option but even then its often not a great choice for boss dps and someone can just use tractor cannon to get the same debuff.
I say all of this as I have all 3 characters and have done solo flawless runs with all of them in dungeons so I have a comprehensive experience with what they can all objectively do.
Not an issue if you use Buried Bloodline. Proc devour, make orbs, gets you overshield and should be able to sustain from there.
Edit: In addition on prismatic with the class item, HOIL + Cyrtarachne also adds to this to make you really tanky.
@ tanky for 6 seconds. Even with hoil the grenade still takes like 30-50 seconds to recharge depending on discipline. Still doesnt really sustain as no healing. Buried bloodline consumes a whole exotic slot just to get devour.
What im saying is the other classes have built in tools into almost every subclass that let you passively accrue DR or Heal. Hunter dont. To get frost armor you need kills. Renewals stack over time. Icefalls and ballidorse gives instant max stacks on class ability cast.
@@damsdee2214 HOIL increases grenade regen, devour increases grenade regen, arm armor mod regens grenade with powered melee, class item mods regen grenade when you pick up an orb (combo with attraction mod). You get your grenade back well within the 6 seconds of woven mail being active.
Ability cycle: Grapple nade, grapple melee, stasis melee, dodge (with stasis aspect to freeze or clone to de-agro), stasis melee, grapple in again or grapple out to safety. All while going in and out of invis so you can choose when you want to fully disengage. Empowered abilities x2 will be up always, void over shield or frost armor will also be active. Buried Bloodline is just there as a safety net in lesser add dense scenarios. And Buried Bloodline will be have volatile rounds after you get a kill with grapple melee.
Bungie needs to have terrabah keep the exact amount of beast charge you've built up when switching off it. I run double smg w pks and it's annoying basically never being able to use the beast in that way when the whole point of pks is run n gun
I agree. i also have been using double smg PK since before the buff to PK. You are nerfing yourself just to use double smg. It shouldnt remove the damage increase if you are switching between smg's
they did, but pvp it was an issue
@@truv_Tarrabah never held its full charge. But yes they are reluctant to buff it because of PvP. But tbh they already nerfed its passive gains by a lot and its base form isn’t that strong anymore. I really don’t see it becoming an issue. Or give it a rewind round catalyst.
Or separate the sandboxes.
But that's too much for people with below room temperature iq.@@GodSlayerZancrow
The hunter build felt like it was just ‘graviton go brr oh and here’s a random class item I picked out that I guess synergizes with it’
I like the song in the background
That Manticore build is a 10/10 imo. It’s an amazing build that can even solo GMs. Killing the Lightblade with a primary feels so cathartic ngl
Off top but is dual destiny fireteam finder down for everyone?
Cross do you think hunter on gyrfalcons hauberk would work better? Not a titan hater, but IYKYK 🙃 love your content brother
What I was thinking
Definitely swap out Verity for Gyrfalcon
As a Titan main who started playing the other classes beginning of LF, it’s good to see my punchy boys get some love and be back on top. Even if it’s just for this episode idc 😂
for anyone just trying builds in the haunted lost sectors, try young ahamkara spine again with:
Aspects:
Gunpowder Gamble
KeD
Fragments:
Char
Eruption
Solace
Ashes
Blistering
Blade Barrage, acrobat dodge, knife trick.
A weapon with wellspring and demo, is on ogma PR6 from banshee
My main pve build is graviton/relevance(assassin/gyrfalcon). Pretty much gives me unlimited invis, devour, and volatile rounds. Never gets old lol
is there a reason to use void reserves for the manticore build? he’s not using a void special or heavy
5:37 classic 😂
Man, the Huckleberry and peacekeeper is by far my favorite build i get that using the Manticore makes more sense due to it is void but bro it's hard to let go of the Huckleberry.
The look at 2:51 😂😂
That wasn't even a contest, it felt like the Hunter gameplay was just Cross hiding behind cover the whole time.
I've been using this with Huckleberry and GOD it is really fun to see it shred (you just need heal on orb pick up), while with Manticore you can just proc constant overshield. Both are good, but for different reasons. Huckleberry shreds ANYTHING, dude I was killing yellow bars like they were red.
Question does the weaken effect from deadfall and tractor cannon stack
Manticore/Pk's is so much fun! It's my favorite build right now
When he finally tries it with huckleberry he’s going ask why no one told him. I’ve been messing with PKs on all subclasses and many SMGs since I’m an SMG main. Huckleberry fcks. Also another note. Have an auto loading GL because you can swap back and forth without ever having to reload. You wait half a second before switching back or Nam load every other swap. That with bait and switch heavy bosses melt.
Got a link to the build for huckle?
Where them DIM links?
i like the manticore build better but i will say that the lost sector for the other build is much harder
Had bungie addressed void hunters for vespers yet? I'm get tired of not being able to try it
11:35 including frenzied blade in prismatic killed all other melees
Just Void & Stasis plus tonic booster, i use headstone Yarovit smg with Special ammo finder, Choir and the Pinnacle Void Caster sword for FOL Lost sectors. Goes hard 👊
I'm SOOOOO tired of Consecration spam at this point, same as I'm tired of Combination Blow Liar/Caliban spam on Hunter. I wanna use GUNS again lol. Warlock is close with the Getaway arc buddy/stacy build but at least you shoot the frozen enemys on that class lol. Strand Titan is my main and while yes I melee.....A LOT, it's still not just Consecration over and over and over and over lol. I get Banner of War proceed and Woven Mail so I can survive using close range weapons and utilize surges and such and usually an Eager Edge sword for movement and the dmg buff of Banner. Consecration is just melee focused only, nothing buffing or utlizing weapons at all and when you're out of a melee charge you're basically a sitting duck unless you have Trancendant build up for it's get out of jail free nade. I love the Peacekeepers buff as it makes weapon builds viable again. Smgs have been nerfed, and other weapons buffed, so much that they're basically bottom of the barrel in terms of dps despite needing to be up close to use them so having a way to make them strong again is fun. They do need an overall buff though, ESPECIALLY the legendaries so they can be useful on other classes. Bungie would probably nerf Peacekeepers to comensate some of they did get a global buff though.
just simple question why not 10 res??am i missing something sorry if i miss sonething
Do PKs with Riskrunner and prismatic. You can use pulse nade self proc if there isn't any arc damage
How do you submit for this? Is it through Reddit or Discord?
does spirit of galanor work with tether ?
We need a Cytrachne HOIL combo build at some point. That combo is perfect with gunpowder and invis.
Finally my child manticore can get some love
Decour fragment automaticly gives health back on orb pick up to
people are finally starting to see manticore as the beast it truly is
How long do the bans last for?
Once I get my hands on that chill clip rocket sidearm that manticore build is gonna go even harder
been waiting for a warlock build since the beginning of revenant :(
why dont you make your own? not trying to be mean about it but just curious
Does this work for warlocks as well???
@2:52 holy shit it works! lol love it
Manticore + peacekeepers in a stasis season is cooking hard.
Ita been a while since a void centered season hapened, so just you wait...
Yes, every titan is rocking it to the point Bungie nerfs it.
Can’t wait.
@route77productions Don't. Jinx. It.
@@route77productionsIts not like were gonna use it against Raid bosses, so hopefully it should be fine.
"Shoulda told me harder"... LMAO!
where do u get that pumpkin head
Does manticore hold you in the air?
Personally with Spirit of Verity I would use Gunpowder instead of Winter's Shroud since he has Verity on. U could get better dmg with the magnetic grenade and have the Gunpowder Gamble for big boom(works with Verity if u didn't know).
It works even though it's solar? Verity should only work with the element matching your super, but I could see this being a Bungie moment and it works because you have a void grenade on
@alexA.7529 I meant spirit of Verity on prismatic, but yeah if you use golden gun and a solar weapon then yeah it will work
The Pumpkin titan is the endgame we needed
How is his manticore reloading while he is shooting? Sorry probably dumb question.
It’s part of the catalyst it reloads the mag doing damage with the weapon.
@@makingacomment Thank you!
If he had used peacekeepers reload functionality more on the titan this build would’ve shredded even more
The hunter one is very good. I’ve been using NS Graviton since WQ. MT and ET since into the light.
It only sucks when you’ve ran out of ammo and only have graviton for damage.
Think I'd be better for Nfs Gms or anything more than these close range sectors
@ yeah it’s my go-to for nearly everything else lol
I remember when we used to use Manticore and Wings of Sacred Down for the extra damage resistance lol. Now with that armor solar wepaons reload on kill, maybe someone could make a build with a solar smg like tarrabah?