Synology DS420+ NAS - Unofficial 16GB and 32GB Memory Upgrade Tests

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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    If you have purchased a new NAS Drive in the last few months, then chances are that you would use it to the best if its abilities increasing the memory to the maximum in order to run more apps and allow more users to access the device at any time. The latest 2020 Generation of Synology NAS (the DS920+, DS420+, DS720+ and DS220+), much like the older gen devices, all arrive with the ability to upgrade the memory to 8GB, but some users like to push this limitation, using unofficial memory from brands like crucial or Kingston, installing bigger and faster memory. Generally speaking, Synology NAS has a long-standing reputation for being underpowered when compared to brands like QNAP and Asustor, at least out of the box, choosing to focus on their award-winning DSM software. This is changing a bit in 2019/2020 with the newer Synology drives featuring improved hardware choices, but still, for many, it seems a little underwhelming. One potential benefit that’s highlighted to improve performance considerably multiple users is to upgrade the RAM (Random Access Memory) in the Synology NAS drive. Today’s post will cover my thoughts on the usefulness of upgrading the factory-installed RAM, how to determine if a RAM upgrade is needed at all and exactly how to do this. Let’s start with the latter, do you need to upgrade RAM?
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  • @lionintu
    @lionintu 4 роки тому +4

    that crucial 16 will be looking real nice in my 920+

  • @user-lb4hu1vb9v
    @user-lb4hu1vb9v 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the advice

  • @LawrenceLapitan
    @LawrenceLapitan 3 роки тому

    You're the best!!!

  • @panoshountis1516
    @panoshountis1516 4 роки тому +3

    I've seen a video clip suggesting that upgrading the RAM over the officially supported threshold confuses the way DSM manages caching. Would be beneficial to try an unofficial upgrade with the NVMe caching.

  • @midwestconcertvideo
    @midwestconcertvideo 3 роки тому +1

    Do you have a link to the 16 gig module?

  • @tdevosodense
    @tdevosodense 4 роки тому +1

    Hwo is suppling ram to synology (oem) ?? 🤔

  • @rodolforts
    @rodolforts 3 роки тому +1

    should this work with 1520+ as well? 16gb and 32gb?

  • @jungleboyfromoz
    @jungleboyfromoz 4 роки тому +5

    Very interesting with the success of the 16GB module. Curious why you never test a 8GB module since there maybe a greater success rate 🤔
    The 220 and the 420 have the same processor and base ram. Perhaps just a matter of time before the graphical distortion begins to appear 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @junioron2986
    @junioron2986 3 роки тому

    Cuantos TB soporta ESE NASS??
    .

  • @Digitalnights
    @Digitalnights Рік тому +1

    It's been two years... anyone notice any issues since this release?

  • @Earl_Robinson_UK
    @Earl_Robinson_UK 3 роки тому +1

    I get the blue flashing like you get with a 32gb with 8GB and 16GB sticks

  • @farmfarm2270
    @farmfarm2270 4 роки тому +14

    Thank you! But there’s question - can all available memory be fully utilized? Can you please run multiple virtual machines for full memory utilize and run stable check for about day?

  • @johngalt8708
    @johngalt8708 2 місяці тому

    You should test if you can use all that memory. Just because it shows up that you have that much memory it doesn't mean you can use it all.

  • @criptoportugal
    @criptoportugal 4 роки тому

    You can change the disks order no problem thats why the disks trays are not numbered. Qnap its different at least in ooder models 🤔🙄🔆🔆🔆

  • @user-ue6tr8td3v
    @user-ue6tr8td3v 3 роки тому +4

    Did some testing with 32GB modules before I found this video. I ended up using a 16GB 3200MHz module instead of 2666MHz because there isn't much of a cost difference. The NAS works well with a bit of speed up using the 3200MHZ module as its more to do with the increase in RAM. The 16GB DDR4 module I used is a Samsung M471A2K43DB1-CWE with a memory arrangement 2RX8 (dual rank). Be sure to buy dual rank for your Synology memory upgrades, supposedly they work better.

    • @alexk8541
      @alexk8541 3 роки тому +1

      Do you have the ds420+? Is your machine still working fine?

    • @user-ue6tr8td3v
      @user-ue6tr8td3v 3 роки тому +1

      @@alexk8541 Hi, I have the 920+... after 4 months, still working great!

  • @friscokid13
    @friscokid13 3 роки тому +1

    It followed your directions with the ddr4 16 gb, but it was not accepted.... I can not figure out why. You think they adapted the DSM to no longer accept foreign RAM?

    • @rothermovloerverwarming
      @rothermovloerverwarming 2 роки тому

      Same here. Already had my DS420+ and DS220+ running fine with 8GB extra but neither boots up with the 16GB installed. Wasted some good money on memory that I can't use now.

    • @markdoyle5542
      @markdoyle5542 Рік тому

      @@rothermovloerverwarming What 6gb module did you use? Seem's wise to follow suit and clone what you used.

  • @okidave
    @okidave 4 роки тому +7

    It is very Appleish of Synology to only support their overpriced RAM modules. There are only three major memory manufacturers in the world. I'd be interested to know how Synology can justify the price and warranty stipulations.

  • @criptoportugal
    @criptoportugal 4 роки тому +2

    The cpu does not handle 34gb of ram? Unsolder the 2 gb and you may get luck with the 32gb 🤔🙄✋🔆🔆🔆

  • @thuymy5368
    @thuymy5368 2 роки тому +2

    Few commenters stated that the CPU for this DS420+ Intel Celeron J4025 which actually supports only 8GB according to Intel datasheet. There is no point of upgrade more than a single 4GB module. Yes you can add more and it may works as it boot up but the OS can't use more than what the CPU can't handle. To truly test usability, log in the shell/terminal and forks of threads and see if you can actually allocate more memory than 8GB. Highly doubt it.

    • @AndyMitchellUK26
      @AndyMitchellUK26 2 роки тому

      It actually can use more than 8GB though. My QNAP with a J4125 says the same - 8GB but the 2x8GB modules I have work fine and the system can and does use more than 8GB at times. I have had many systems over the years where I have had more RAM than is officially supported by the CPU. I imagine that is just what is officially tested at the time of the CPU being released.

  • @thachvu6665
    @thachvu6665 3 роки тому +4

    By looking at the screen shot of memory utility, it looks like the 16 GB RAM doesn't get utilized by Synology, all 16 GB RAM free, not even cached works. Only the 2GB RAM came with the device works. I installed the Kingston 4GB RAM non ECC CL19 and all 6GB RAM got utilized. Synology only supports up to 6GB RAM so extra RAM might just be a waste. Intel Celeron J4025 CPU only supports 8GB RAM on this NAS.

    • @darkftforce
      @darkftforce 3 роки тому +2

      because nothing is running, only OS is running and it doesnt even use 1gb.

    • @thachvu6665
      @thachvu6665 3 роки тому +3

      @@darkftforce I don't know... in the video shown the value of memory composition in resource monitor with Used 772 MB, Buffer 187.5 MB, Cached 619 MB and Free the whole 16 GB. This is a similar value that I used to have when I had 2 GB RAM that came with the box. Then I installed 4 GB RAM for the total of 6GB which is the max DSM can support, I saw all values increased Used 1.3 GB, Cached 4.1 GB Free 326 MB on the idle system. It means the additional 4GB RAM got utilized by DSM. I suspect the whole 16 GB RAM here does not get utilized at all because it's way over the max supported of 6GB RAM so I think the 16 GB RAM could be a waste and useless. Better to install the 4GB RAM to be safe and match the spec.

    • @bengrogan9710
      @bengrogan9710 3 роки тому +1

      @@thachvu6665 He has another video from several months ago with this exact unit
      The OS has no reason in this case to be using that much - in that video you can see the full allocation of RAM is usable as he boots up VMs with 8gb and 14gb
      The 6GB max spec is only as they have not validated the stability any modules higher than that, Just as a Desktop system has a Qualified Vendor list
      There is no issue with detection or utilization by the OS that I've seen

    • @ivanmytube
      @ivanmytube 2 роки тому

      @@thachvu6665 Can you test running DS420+ on DSM 7, Synology Photos with 10,000+ photos in it? I still want to go for the 16GB additional RAM.

    • @thachvu6665
      @thachvu6665 2 роки тому

      @@ivanmytube I have 46,000+ photos with Synology Photos running on DS420+ with DSM 7 and no issue.

  • @picurdotnet
    @picurdotnet 4 роки тому +1

    What about 720+ or 920+ ??

    • @user-ue6tr8td3v
      @user-ue6tr8td3v 3 роки тому

      I upgraded a 920+ with 16GB 3200MHz RAM and it works well.

  • @ErraticPT
    @ErraticPT 4 роки тому +6

    Graphical inconsistencies almost certainly done on purpose so when a customer sees it they think its bust and contacts them with it they can id it even if the additional ram is removed. Shoddy anti consumer practice if you ask me.
    Glad to see maybe they learnt this time.

    • @stevesmith9081
      @stevesmith9081 4 роки тому

      My DS1819+ complains about an 8Gb Crucial memory stick, on start up. What's to stop them deliberately introducing "glitches"?

  • @martynaslukas4340
    @martynaslukas4340 3 роки тому +2

    Intel Celeron J4025 only supports max 8gb of RAM. I can not see it using more than 2gb with 16gb stick. This video smells fishy... Not sure why synology installs only 2gb and offer 4gb as upgrade.

    • @darkftforce
      @darkftforce 3 роки тому +1

      because nothing is running, only OS is running and it doesnt even use 1gb.

    • @piotrski2421
      @piotrski2421 3 роки тому

      Low-end products cannot have the same parameters as higher-end models

    • @martynaslukas4340
      @martynaslukas4340 3 роки тому

      @@piotrski2421 my comment was towards CPU. CPU doesn't support more than 8GB. You can install more but it will use only 8...

    • @pwil2
      @pwil2 3 роки тому

      @@martynaslukas4340 No. CPU will work ok with more memory, but Intel supports only 8GB. If you want support for more memory you have to buy the more expensive Xeon procesor.

    • @martynaslukas4340
      @martynaslukas4340 3 роки тому +2

      @@pwil2 well, I'm not an expert, might be 100 miles away, but i am referring to 420+ which uses j4025 and datasheet says max 8gb supported...

  • @nijian99
    @nijian99 4 роки тому +1

    I can't think of a more stupid thing Synology can do than this (only its own branded RAM)!!! I have had 3 Synology NAS units at home and it's time for me to find an alternative brand!

    • @panoshountis1516
      @panoshountis1516 4 роки тому +1

      If the pricing of their branded DIMM would be comparable, even twice as expensive, I would accept... but it is 10 times more expensive than compatible named brands. Ridiculous

    • @BrokeCanadian
      @BrokeCanadian 3 роки тому

      @@panoshountis1516 10 times more. Wow.