@@LegallyBlindGaming727 fax like i just watched the first episode of tlou, instead of velma and im so fucking excited for e2. never gonna even fucking open velma on hbo max
@@LegallyBlindGaming727 It's something you do with friends while drinking. The point isn't to enjoy hating the show, but enjoy hating the show with your fiends and making fun of it. Either that or sharing your thoughts on social media for the attention.
@@LegallyBlindGaming727 A simple explanation: Person 1: This show is sh*t Person 2: You can't complain about it if you haven't watched i Person 1: *starts watching* Person 1: This show is sh*t Person 2: You haven't given it a fair chance, watch it until the end. Person 1: *finishes show* Person 1: This show is sh*t Person 2: Person 2: wElL iF yOu DoN't LiKe It ThAn YoU sHoUlDn'T hAvE wAtChEd It Person 1: Person 1: what the fu-
Remember everyone: Hate watching still gives them views, if you're going to hate watch, then pirate it or watch a reaction or smth, don't give them the views.
It’s short term Vs. long term. You make a hated show it’ll be remembered by many for a month. You make a loved show and it’ll be remembered by many for generations.
@PenguiinzObro did you really make an account based off of Charlie’s real UA-cam account name? Man you need to go outside right now and touch grass. Before you decide to eat someone or something weird like that 😂
Satan: “My child will hate watch Velma and unintentionally support it.” (Moist) Jesus: “my child will pirate Velma, hate-watching it while not supporting the original.”
I heard a theory that it wasn’t actually a “full season” that was greenlit, but a set number of episodes. By splitting those episodes into “two seasons,” they don’t have to wait as long to air the show and can create the illusion of success.
For the sake of the masses… I hope that you’re right about that. By the way, a scammer tried to leave a scam comment on this thread, you might want to take care of that.
Season 1 is only 10 episodes so yeah. Usually when a network commission cartoons, they do it in batches of 26, sometimes splitting it into 13 episode half-seasons. I'm guessing they already had the first 10 ready and were going to announce the next 10 anyways, regardless of how disliked the show would be.
The fact that Kaling openly admitted on a talk show to kissing a man on a movie set without his consent and then threatening to fire staff if they said anything, and is still in Hollywood is astounding.
The worst art of all of this for me, is that RIGHT before this show Velma (the real Velma) was suddenly getting so much love on the Internet. So many random clips of her went viral, people began to say she was the hottest one in teh group, etc etc... she suddenly became beloved out of nowhere. It's like God said our opinion was wrong and sent this show to ruin Velma forever for everyone LMAO
Right it used to be cool to love Velma, she was the cute nerdy girl. But now it's going to be cringe associated with this show for a while. They ruined my fave character ☹️
@@shayrogers7560 i think as long as you make a distinction between *which* velma you love, no one is going to disagree with you. this show was pretty much universally hated, mostly for how horrifically it handled these beloved characters. everyone still likes normal velma and i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if this causes a big resurgence of love for her and the IP itself.
to me i consider velma and "velma" to be 2 separate characters, one is a lovable girl who has a talking dog and the other is a horrible person who hates the concept of a human being good and hates everyone
I wonder if that was a sort of hidden campaign so people would become more aware of her and would then way more to see ""Velma"". Seen similar stuff happen in memes, when the steamdeck was announced suddenly every meme was a comparison between the switch and the steamdeck
I wonder if we did a deep dive on the people behind this and who incited them to make this... because it sounds all to coincidental that just as this old character gets love, that some kind of racial wedge gets driven in. Because they sure played the racial wedge with this one. There's a million other new stories that could be told, stories that would help everyone bond, right... but they picked up this rising peak to turn into rage baiting. I don't believe in coincidences and i'm betting that if we'd study the people behind this, we'd find some really fucked up "coincidences" with them too.
It’s going to be hilarious when they realize even the audience’s pleasure of hate-watching it will not last nearly long enough to make it to season 2. What a brainless financial risk.
I think it’s more of the fact they got this many people talking about it, and people probably go on HBO to hate watch it. It’s a win-win for HBO by putting a small amount of money in this
If moba players can play a game they loathe for years then it's not so unthinkable for people to watch a show they hate for years. There's a lot of people that just honestly hate themselves
The more than likely thing happening here is what happens with a lot of animated shows on streaming services: splitting one production season in two and calling them different seasons. The news about Velma's "Season 2" starting production is likely just the second half of Season 1 getting started on, but calling it Season 2 drives social media more.
@@angus1513 Yep. And in the end, there is a dood aggregating data from sources all over the internet, with the numbers telling investors that the show drives an insane amount of engagement. I don't think the hate watchers are the important bit, it's us consuming content that got created out of hate watching and investors simply going with the numbers, not with ethics, morals or good taste.
The mental image of Charlie being the literal only person to keep watching Velma is hilarious. I picture him strapped down like in A Clockwork Orange, his eyes forcibly opened, forced to watch it. It is both horrifying for Charlie but humorous at the same time.
I'd rather watch Charlie watching Velma than Velma. You don't even need to capture the TV or audio, just have the camera behind whatever Charlie is watching it on and record his reactions.
Just as Jesus suffered on the cross to absolve sin for all of humanity, so must Moist Critikal take on the tortured role of the Only Hate Watcher (peace be upon him)
This is why you shouldn't hate watch bad movies or shows. Because it'll end up making the studios money anyway, and let them know that they can get away with pumping out raw sewage like Velma, and that they can continue to ruin these properties that we love.
I see a lot of people “watching Velma so you don’t have too” when enough people take it upon themselves to do that, hate watching literally becomes it’s own genre of movies. So well done for giving them the money they don’t deserve
I don't think hate watching can sustain the show. A lot of people are watching it RN because of curiosity (is it really as bad as everyone says it is? or just hate watching to bash on it, etc) because everyone is talking about it, but I doubt the interest will keep up for the rest of the season.
If big streamers hate watch but clearly direct people away I believe that's far better then saying it's mid and moving on. At least people can unify away from HBO and other crappy studios and pirate if they really want to watch it
Think about it this way: if UA-camr A hate-watches something "so you don't have to", that's 100 people that AREN'T going to watch it, even hate-watch it, because watching their favorite UA-camr react to it will wring any enjoyment that the series would have had for them.
In high school, I had an English teacher who taught a creative writing course as an elective. Took the class because I really looked up to him and was interested in writing at the time. He taught me a valuable lesson: You want the people reading to either love or hate your story and characters, but no in-between. You never want them to feel indifferent, because it means that it wasn't interesting at all. Now usually a writer isn't going to try to intentionally make their audience hate their writing ... But well, when it happens it ends up being very effective for a reason. Writing a story with the intention of making people hate it or hate watching/reading something isn't exactly a new fad. It's been around for a while. But if the suits think they can make more money off of shitty shows and that it's easier to produce them (so more profitable by comparison since they have to put in less work), then you can bet your sweet behind that you'll see more and more dog shit like Velma being released soon. That being said, even if Velma was one of the most watched shows on HBO, I doubt a lot of people paid for the subscription just to view that show specifically. It would make more sense if the people who already owned a subscription were the ones who watched it. People might buy things they hate just out of simple curiosity. But when you have two different shows competing for your wallet, assuming it's between a show you love and a show you hate you'll probably be more willing to pay for the former. So I can't really see this kind of thing sticking around in the long-term.
What an insightful and well thought out comment - you don't belong here, this is the yt comment section. You are (or easily could be) actually worth something in this society, now shoo.
Yeah, this. The model has a lot more viability on live TV, where advertising is making the money. In a subscription service? I agree that it's likely going to get about zero new actual subscribers, and consequentially be a financial loss, no matter how popular.
Charlie is a true hero. I recently broke out in hives and have been wondering what could have caused this predicament. Thinking back, I only started to have this reaction after watching the first episode of Velma. Its as if my my body could not accept the absolute atrocity that is Velma, starting a severe allergic reaction after having witnessed the pits of hell when it comes to bad writing. Props to Charlie for doing us all a favor and saving us from the pain and suffering ahead
This same thing happened with Seth Rogan's Santa Inc. All the streamers watched it and hate posted about it. Amidst the attention a season 2 was announced but it's been over a year and still no signs of a season 2 ever being made.
I actually love the idea of only content creators watching these shows to make content. If this became mainstream it would mean serious damage to the bottom line of these shows and we all still get to make fun of it as a community, without even having to endure the pain of these terrible shows. I think Charlie’s really onto something here.
That would be awesome all things considered, it would definitely make WB make some serious changes to their plans, maybe have more positive watching instead, heck the freaking Harley Quinn Adult Swim series got as much talk as it did cause the show slaps and has countless memeable moments that everyone can't stop talking about, so if WB can do that with one show they can do it with another, either it means "fixing" Velma as a show to make it "watchable" or just making a new series, like I would kill for a Adult Swim Lobo show, cause that character could be the next best thing to Deadpool if WB handles him right.
@@TheKewlPerson Same Tbh, my adhd brain won’t even let me watch something that’s not entertaining, I lose focus too easily lol. I just didn’t realize hate watching was common enough that moneys still able to be made off it.
I'm just worried because they are prob not going to try another adult Scooby Doo series because of this i just want a series like Mystery inc. but 13+ or 18+ plz just PLZ!
It’s the type of show that could potentially inspire others to make art all for terrible reasons. “I shouldn’t make art because I love the craft or want to actually contribute something amazing and creative. I should make art purely out of spite! Because hate makes it much easier for me to be seen in the world!” Hooray for soulless creation.
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise. I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat. ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
This is why you should pirate things you hate, even if you have easy legal access to it. They can't see that you're viewing it if you aren't using _their_ service.
That isn't true, they can see how many times it's been downloaded they just don't get the money and therefore don't see the monetary value in producing more of that product. Unless there is a way for them to shut down those other avenues which good luck doing anything more than playing wack a mole
Yall gotta remember. THE MONEY IS NOT MADE FROM THE PRODUCT THAT IS PUT OUT! ...the money is made from the views, and the clicks, and the comments... make up some brain dead shit for people to talk about, spread it like fire, and get paid for it. ITS THAT SIMPLE
Ignoring it and never even talking about it is much better option but people are incapable so here we are. I literally would have never heard of it if people weren't going on about how much they hate it for the last 2 days. I almost watched it. it's literally the fault of videos and comments like this.
You soon realise how much of a burden carrying Velma season 2 is when you realise that Frodo actually needed a whole fellowship, and his Gardner to help him finish the job, saving his life over a dozen times and literally walking the entire way with him without leaving his side, and even allowing frodo to take the credit as the main hero of the whole journey. My hat is truly off to Charlie on this one.
This is the oldest trick in the book of streaming media. Producers greenlight a batch of 30-40 episodes and then split them into two seasons but withhold the information of the second to the public part till the series airs so they can brag about how successful the show is. That's why it seems like no matter how bad a show is they always have at least two seasons.
but why? this doesn't answer anything. if nobody watches it then they burned capital on making more episodes. it's a private business and their job is to make profits, not to pretend bad shows are popular. it's not a government agency that can burn funds on pumping out propaganda.
@JewTube001 investors form a 1 season contract and rather than make another contract, they duplicate the amount ordered in order to save money and time making contract since it is the same amount of money offered at the beginning
I’m in the animation industry and it’s pretty common nowadays for shows to be ordered two seasons at a time with the second season just not announced/released until the first comes out. So perhaps it isn’t that Velma’s so popular it’s getting a season 2. But more it wasn’t bad enough for the season 2 already being made to be cancelled.
@@davidhong1934 commitment no matter how stupid the product will be. It happened with sequel Star Wars and the toys they made, to this day you can run into one of those toys in your local target I believe.
@@davidhong1934 I'm assuming because they think anything will hit it BIG, so after the second season runs dry and the big big numbers don't come in, cancelled, same fate for each subsequent season.
in 2050 historians will remember 2023 as the year we narrowly avoided nuclear war as Germany is considering sending tanks to Ukraine, we got Velma season 2 and everyone just found someone else to hate... together. Mindy Whatsherface.
The way I look at hate watching, is that it’s the same as giving trolls attention. Them getting a interaction out of you is exactly what they wanted and just encourages them to do the exact same thing they’ve been doing. The more you give them attention, the more it shows they can get results from you: the target.
“Is it truly so popular from hate watching that they can justify another season for rage baiting” is one of the most interesting quotes I’ve heard in a long time
It's taking the exact slice that "news" media does. Rage gets clicks, it gets views, it gets shared, and they profit... At the demise if society. Unfortunately that has people fighting each other over divisive topics who would most likely hang out and have a beer, or cook on the grill.
Man, so true, I heard this show was terrible and yet several of my friends literally watched it because they heard all the drama around it being so bad. It doesn’t matter if its crap, if people keep eating it, they’ll keep making it!
Well the thing with streaming shows is people watching it is completely irrelevant. New people paying the subscription to watch it is the problem. If ANYONE in their right mind who didn’t already have a subscription got one to watch this abomination id question their sanity if they’re just hate watching.
@@herdoman5169 If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple. But that doesn't mean you can keep others from watching it, you're not their mother.
As someone who works on films and animation, I can tell you right now that usually 2 seasons are ordered when any animated show is made Usually the next season is around 1/4 of the way done by the time the first season comes out That's why so many shows are "renewed for season 2" whether they were good or bad: they were already being worked on
Weird that’s almost the exact opposite of what I would’ve thought. A show being cancelled on season two feels strange to me. I thought I had noticed a ton of shows being cancelled on either season one or season three with two being the outlier
I've been letting Charlie cover my awful shows for a long time now, and I didn't stop at Velma. This world needs to wake up and let Charlie do this for us.
I've been saying the same thing about the gaming industry for years. We are constantly rewarding bad behaviour which is why game quality has tanked and monetization has exploded in general. Diablo immortal comes out and everyone is like "Ugh this is disgraceful" 3 weeks later "Ooooo I can't wait for Diablo 4!". We are telling them that they can get away with it. We are gonna see a lot more of these types of movies and games with no regard for the consumer until we stop spending or watching.
I think we’re way too trusting of video game companies, even after they do something bad we still support them and allow them to continue doing the same stuff
This is why I just play the super Nintendo games my father bought me in 96. I'm a paranoid motherfucker when it comes to this scammy/buggy shit. Also I still miss my original Xbox games but my stepmother's neice sold them for drugs.
In the original one where you mentioned "I'm glad they took Scooby behind the barn and put him down, he didn't deserve this." well looks like he's coming back with a bloody revenge to kill everything they see. Golly this is gonna be great.
you're still really invested in something not cause u like it but because it's interesting or intrigues you. whether it's directly or not I'd still say that's contributing to it's overall popularity
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise. I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat. ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
The most fun part of watching Charlie's videos is painting a picture in your head of all the witty and sometimes silly metaphors he throws at you, hilarious
I don't think it's right for Charlie to be like; "No YOU CAN'T HATE WATCHING because then they'll win. Only I can hate watch it for you" He should also be watching it through pirated sources so they don't get that satisfaction
But he does it not just to watch it becuase he knew it was going to be bad, but for youtube to review and talk about it for his job, most people just want to watch it to watch it, if only a few youtbers and a few others watch it it will still hurt them
I'm pretty sure famous UA-camrs have to watch this stuff legally if they plan on making money off of their videos or else suffer severe repercussions from the rights holders and/or UA-cam itself. Pirating may be a legal gray area for personal/non-commercial consumption, especially for old stuff that is never being legally re-released (shut up, Nintendo!), but UA-camrs normalizing piracy in their monetized videos potentially watched by millions is just asking for a lawsuit.
I think the fact so many content creators hate watch is what began this spree of hate-watching among the masses, to be honest. The amount of hate-watching that is happening these days is a pretty recent phenomenon, and the lack of genuinely good movies and shows these days is making it a more viable option.
The scariest part is that this could be the start of a new trend of bastardizing IPs we all know and love simply because studios know they’ll make rage money off us…strange times we live in
Start? No, this is but the peak of the trend you fear. Hollywood has been doing it for years, with everything from The Witcher to Halo to Star Wars to far too many to count. My fear is the peak will last so long it becomes the new norm, and shows like Velma will be competing to be the most unbearable piece of "entertainment" possible. It started with not caring about quality control, then dropped to actively (and openly) hating the IPs they work on and their fans. Now it has seemingly taken on the trend's final form with Velma, which is to actively hate all of humanity and do everything in their power to inflict as much pain and suffering on us as humanly possible.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 nah, it started with fans asking for IPs to return, only to hate on or ignore the very IPs that they want to return. Velma doesn't get made without 15 Scooby Doo reboots failing and the fans still asking for more when they couldn't support the 15 reboots they wanted.
@@majinnando6711 I've watched 15 Scooby Doo reboots and loved them all. I don't know anyone who was a fan of the original that didn't like at least the first 15 years of reboots/sequels/movies, so I am not sure where "hate or ignore" comes from, because Scooby Doo content has always been fire before this dumpster fire took "fire" literally and set fire to the franchise. EDIT: Now that I am thinking about it, reviews I have seen even say things like "How could you screw up something so easy to get right?" about Scooby Doo because it has *always* been successful in whatever form it takes. The live action movies even had what, 3, 4? because they were doing well despite being considered "the worst" of the franchise pre-Velma.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 well hey, that's dope, from what I've seen though Scrappy Doo, What's New Scooby Doo, and a bunch of other reboots, spinoffs, etc. were booted from network for lack of viewers, or people not even knowing they existed, and then those same people asking for a new Scooby Doo when they didn't support or watch any of the content that came out the last 35 years chocked full of Scooby and the gang in their original form. My point basically is I'm seeing a lot of people who watch this and then ask why Scooby Doo isn't being made, when it has been, they just didn't care enough to support until they changed something about it to attract new viewers. Also, let's not lie, Velma compared to Scrappy Doo makes Velma look like a piece of art, I refuse to think anyone who actually watched Scrappy Doo puts it over Velma as a better show when that entire show was a dumpster fire.
@@majinnando6711 I cannot take seriously anyone who says Velma is better than literally anything, much less any other Scooby Doo IP out there. While I personally prefer when the gang is together over Scrappy Doo, but my dad (60) loves Scrappy Doo and still watches it to this day. I cannot see a single person actually watching Velma years after it airs. Also, you do not seem to understand how Scooby Doo operates if you think it keeps getting "cancelled." It was a seasonal show from the start, meaning each new season was it's own self-contained show with it's own name. It was only in the modern day that each individual show started having a few year runs for more modern, lengthy arcs. As far as I can tell, the show has never been dropped due to ratings. They just finish the arc they wanted to tell then start on the next one.
To see you finally come to a plausible answer to “who is this show for” after days and days of the question torturing your soul, truely warms my heart 💜
They really looked at the amount of hate Velma was getting and went, "Oh we're definitely doing a second season. What could possibly go wrong?" Edit: A lot of you were mentioning that as long they're getting exposure, it doesn't matter. I'm sure in the long run all of that is going to plummet and the show would be 12 ft under in no time.
Lmao nothing is going wrong they’re making the most money they have off an adult animation series since prime family guy. They are killing the game. Just for different reasons.
This is why Velma will succeed imo. People will congregate over things they hate as much as they will over things they like. It’s giving people exactly what they want via third party content.
The TV industry functions exactly like narcissism. Narcissists love attention, and they don't care whether the attention is positive or negative. As long as they get attention of any kind, that's all that matters to them
Because most people actually don't know how to review something. They review stuff based on "Did I kinda like it or nah", there's no knowledge about anything, acting is irrelevant, writing, story, lighting, cgi, theme, continuity, ... That's why superhero movies have ridiculous ratings, they're not good movies but because of bias and "hehe I enjoyed it", they're getting 9/10+ absolutely ludicrous, how can a superhero movies even compete with something like "The Shawshank Redemption".
@@taserrr That's why Charlie's genuine thoughts on Moistmeter actually make sense because he puts time and effort into his thoughts on whatever movie or show he's talking about, and like you said it's not just going off "hehe me like it 10/10"
@@Webb_Studios your responding to a bot. the only thing worse than a comments section full of bots, is a comments section full of people talking to bots. please stop.
its the same things as "even journalists are telling the truth" It means a lot, because journalists, and critics, can easily be successful lying. Sometimes, these groups of people arent willing to lie, and that's powerful.
Hate Watching to me would be like if boycotting a product was to buy something then just break it in front of the person instead of not buy the product altogether. The latter sends the message more.
A little known thing: Animation takes a while to be created, and typically, even if after a show just begins, the show animators are working on the second season. It's a basic animation business tactic, where they continue creating new episodes for upcoming seasons while the current one is just airing. Sure, there may be a hiatus from time to time, but they want everything to run like clockwork.
No where near as much time as people seem to think. Modern animation using modern software and using a generic industry animation style. This sorta animation studio has the formula down to a science and can pump out this shit with a fraction of the effort the dudes in the 2000s were putting out.
I don't think it would last though. It's the sort of thing that many people will watch for the first season to see how bad it gets but nobody will watch for the second season because they already know what to expect Unless it becomes So Bad It's Good but I don't see Velma becoming that
Don't for a second think they don't keep tabs on how downloaded shit is. Just don't watch stuff that you hate, there is so much good media around, espand there instead
I can imagine Charlie doing a handstand in the shower with his legs spread. I don't WANT to imagine it, but this is the world we live in. [a robot stole my comment and reposted it. That's a first...]
Roughly speaking, that's true chat. And it's not immediately apparent that you've missed the mark...or "sinned" in your assessment of the hierarchy, bucko. 🤔
@YeaMan They spelled the word "page" correctly this time... _WTF?_ Are they an improved version of the old scam bots? 😬 _My CPU is a neural net processor...A learning computer._
@@firo729 nah I’m 90% sure it’s spelled incorrectly to get attention because every time I see it people fall for it’s incorrect spelling. Any attention is good attention, kind of like the Velma show, lol.
Charlie sacrificing his sanity to be the only hate watcher of Velma season 2 is truly the second greatest sacrifice in the world. We do not deserve such grace.
*i’m better than every bot youtuber in bot-kind’s twisted jerkish ego!* except i’m giving you a choice to watch me. i’m not a content enforcer, i’m just a guy.
I think the thing with shows thriving off of hate is that eventually the hate gets old and they fade into irrelevancy, they simply don’t have the same bond that shows people like do
It is important to know when it comes to animation, a season 2 being announced so close to the airing of season 1, means it was (most likely) already approved to have 2 seasons anyway. Animation takes longer to plan out, so season 2's are often worked on while season 1 is coming out. And the head line of 'season 2 announced' is just for news outlets.
Not true. It is very difficult to riff off of this type of content. MST3K does best with bland, cheesy, boring, yet harmless showings. From what I understand a show like Velma is too crude and on the nose for it to be susceptible to riffing without stooping to its lows.
From what I understand, MST3K seems to make fun of mostly ancient and obscure garbage from the mid-20th century, or low-hanging fruit like "mockbusters" from Asylum. Basically, the time for the movies they watch to financially benefit from hate-watching has long passed by several decades now, thus we can safely mock stuff like Manos: Hands of Fate without fear of executives cynically finding ways to profit off the hate--at least until they run out of ideas for remakes of classic, iconic movies, books and games in favor of remaking the worst stuff ever and somehow making them more offensive to the senses.
“Don’t watch Velma let me because I like watching bad things” The millions of moistcritikal fans who idolise him and copy his personality: “oh shit me too” *Velma season 3 announced*
The unbeatable combo of 'There's no such thing as bad publicity' and 'Hate-watching still counts as views'
I've never understood hate watching tbh. If i want to use my time i'll use it on something i love. maybe curiosity watching but not pure hate
@@LegallyBlindGaming727 fax like i just watched the first episode of tlou, instead of velma and im so fucking excited for e2. never gonna even fucking open velma on hbo max
@@LegallyBlindGaming727 It's something you do with friends while drinking. The point isn't to enjoy hating the show, but enjoy hating the show with your fiends and making fun of it.
Either that or sharing your thoughts on social media for the attention.
Unless they do like all my friends and pirate it
@@LegallyBlindGaming727 A simple explanation:
Person 1: This show is sh*t
Person 2: You can't complain about it if you haven't watched i
Person 1: *starts watching*
Person 1: This show is sh*t
Person 2: You haven't given it a fair chance, watch it until the end.
Person 1: *finishes show*
Person 1: This show is sh*t
Person 2:
Person 2: wElL iF yOu DoN't LiKe It ThAn YoU sHoUlDn'T hAvE wAtChEd It
Person 1:
Person 1: what the fu-
The writers have serious talent they were able to make everyone's favorite childhood character unlikable and made everyone hate it.
HUH
Of course. Making every step wrong do takes some sort of gifted power.
@Yourfavoriterabbit wtf
@Soul ⸜⁄ get well soon
@soul_0101, it's fine. You're allowed to have the shitiest show as your favorite. I just wouldn't go around telling everyone that.
Remember everyone: Hate watching still gives them views, if you're going to hate watch, then pirate it or watch a reaction or smth, don't give them the views.
my apologies for your replies
Amen
@@eatatjoes6149 bot problem's out of control
It’s like the bots have created a bond with the K/K/K
I use soap2day
It’s short term Vs. long term. You make a hated show it’ll be remembered by many for a month. You make a loved show and it’ll be remembered by many for generations.
And if I've learned anything, it's that big corporations only care about short-term gains.
short term velmas
Facts!
Facts!
they only acre about the money
“It sucks fuck” is still better dialogue improvised by Charlie in 2 seconds than Velma with a writers room can ever do in 2 seasons.
Literally right after he said that my brain was like, “New colloquialism acquired!”
the writers room was just mindy cloning herself
Pretty sure I've heard AVGN say that one. Honestly if it has fuck in it he's probably said it at some point.
@@RealLockheedMartin yep he did
@@RealLockheedMartin “it sucks monkey fuck”
"I'll bear the burden of their sin and carry it for all of us"
And so Charlie finally completed his transformation and became christ
I thought he was Asmongold🤣
@PenguiinzObro did you really make an account based off of Charlie’s real UA-cam account name?
Man you need to go outside right now and touch grass.
Before you decide to eat someone or something weird like that 😂
I tell everyone that he’s UA-cam Jesus, this is just more proof
@@theisgood0 it's a bot why you are wasting your time
full circle
I hate that Velma has a chance at a season two when there’s so many other shows that people LOVE that deserve it
best example i can give of something that should've gotten another season is infinity train
Invincible
No Game No Life
Moral Orel
Firefly had half of season but shitty shows like this get multiple seasons
Satan: “My child will hate watch Velma and unintentionally support it.”
(Moist) Jesus: “my child will pirate Velma, hate-watching it while not supporting the original.”
The Almighty Moist: "My child will not watch anything affiliated with Velma, but watch Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated instead"
I heard a theory that it wasn’t actually a “full season” that was greenlit, but a set number of episodes. By splitting those episodes into “two seasons,” they don’t have to wait as long to air the show and can create the illusion of success.
For the sake of the masses… I hope that you’re right about that.
By the way, a scammer tried to leave a scam comment on this thread, you might want to take care of that.
Yeah, that's what happened with Infinity Train and Cuphead. So if they're already working on S2 of Velma that's probably the case
that makes sense, especially when you consider how quickly they announced it. it wasnt that big of a success, theres no reason to renew so quickly
@@Nameless-ln5mr you might want to take care of that 🤓 what is he meant to do about it lmao
Season 1 is only 10 episodes so yeah. Usually when a network commission cartoons, they do it in batches of 26, sometimes splitting it into 13 episode half-seasons. I'm guessing they already had the first 10 ready and were going to announce the next 10 anyways, regardless of how disliked the show would be.
Giving shows like Velma a season 2 is insane compared to some of the top rated shows that still haven’t been given new seasons.
Cough cough Netflix
4 bots
5 BOTS
6?!?
UA-cam you gotta do something about this
The fact that Kaling openly admitted on a talk show to kissing a man on a movie set without his consent and then threatening to fire staff if they said anything, and is still in Hollywood is astounding.
Wait what
Thats how holly wood works
Tbf tons of people in Hollywood have done shit like that and worse and still get away with it
@@yoot3008ones that publicly admit it?
After the whole Cardi b thing idk why y’all are surprised
The worst art of all of this for me, is that RIGHT before this show Velma (the real Velma) was suddenly getting so much love on the Internet. So many random clips of her went viral, people began to say she was the hottest one in teh group, etc etc... she suddenly became beloved out of nowhere. It's like God said our opinion was wrong and sent this show to ruin Velma forever for everyone LMAO
Right it used to be cool to love Velma, she was the cute nerdy girl. But now it's going to be cringe associated with this show for a while. They ruined my fave character ☹️
@@shayrogers7560 i think as long as you make a distinction between *which* velma you love, no one is going to disagree with you. this show was pretty much universally hated, mostly for how horrifically it handled these beloved characters. everyone still likes normal velma and i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if this causes a big resurgence of love for her and the IP itself.
to me i consider velma and "velma" to be 2 separate characters, one is a lovable girl who has a talking dog and the other is a horrible person who hates the concept of a human being good and hates everyone
I wonder if that was a sort of hidden campaign so people would become more aware of her and would then way more to see ""Velma"". Seen similar stuff happen in memes, when the steamdeck was announced suddenly every meme was a comparison between the switch and the steamdeck
I wonder if we did a deep dive on the people behind this and who incited them to make this... because it sounds all to coincidental that just as this old character gets love, that some kind of racial wedge gets driven in. Because they sure played the racial wedge with this one. There's a million other new stories that could be told, stories that would help everyone bond, right... but they picked up this rising peak to turn into rage baiting. I don't believe in coincidences and i'm betting that if we'd study the people behind this, we'd find some really fucked up "coincidences" with them too.
Charlie explaining his showering position was a better plot than 99% of shows today
5 bots in 1 min 😞
damn, 5 bots in under a minute. thats crazy
@Yourfavoriterabbit I agree, we gotta show some support to Niger! 🇳🇪🇳🇪🇳🇪
Or, barf.
Christ 5 bots replied to your comment in under a minute wtf
Charlie solo watching Velma is like the action guy that stays behind to manually detonate the explosives. Truly the noblest of sacrifices.
Somebody help him.
This cracked me up 😂
Gamer Jesus moment
@YeaMan 🤡
@hello The irony is I wouldn't even know it existed were it not for all the people complaining about it.
It’s going to be hilarious when they realize even the audience’s pleasure of hate-watching it will not last nearly long enough to make it to season 2. What a brainless financial risk.
The fighter and the kid has been living exclusively off hate watching for 8 years.
I think it’s more of the fact they got this many people talking about it, and people probably go on HBO to hate watch it. It’s a win-win for HBO by putting a small amount of money in this
I’m glad they’re gonna waste their fucking money lmao it’s hilarious
ESG bucks sadly means they won't lose any money, but it's the principle that counts
If moba players can play a game they loathe for years then it's not so unthinkable for people to watch a show they hate for years. There's a lot of people that just honestly hate themselves
The more than likely thing happening here is what happens with a lot of animated shows on streaming services: splitting one production season in two and calling them different seasons. The news about Velma's "Season 2" starting production is likely just the second half of Season 1 getting started on, but calling it Season 2 drives social media more.
Letting Charlie watch the shitty shows for me is literally what I've always been doing lol. Charlie makes it such a fun experience
Fully agreed. Charlie is more entertaining, and his unscripted takes are 1000x better than the bin juice writing of any of these dumpster fires.
@@angus1513 Yep. And in the end, there is a dood aggregating data from sources all over the internet, with the numbers telling investors that the show drives an insane amount of engagement. I don't think the hate watchers are the important bit, it's us consuming content that got created out of hate watching and investors simply going with the numbers, not with ethics, morals or good taste.
The same way we ignore the bots in the comments, we need to ignore these shows and just get the recap, or pirate it. Haha
@@Swibbeyp
@diabeto12 p2
Velma getting a new season is probably the only mystery that will ever come out of that show
LMAOOO!! TRUE AF
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ my thoughts exactly
It was Old Man Netflix all along!
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ i rrelevant
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ you aren’t funny
The mental image of Charlie being the literal only person to keep watching Velma is hilarious. I picture him strapped down like in A Clockwork Orange, his eyes forcibly opened, forced to watch it. It is both horrifying for Charlie but humorous at the same time.
Or like robot chicken
@Soul ⸜⁄ and a awful day to you too
I'd rather watch Charlie watching Velma than Velma. You don't even need to capture the TV or audio, just have the camera behind whatever Charlie is watching it on and record his reactions.
Just as Jesus suffered on the cross to absolve sin for all of humanity, so must Moist Critikal take on the tortured role of the Only Hate Watcher (peace be upon him)
Or he watches it does a 10 minute youtube video and makes a fortune.....
This is why you shouldn't hate watch bad movies or shows. Because it'll end up making the studios money anyway, and let them know that they can get away with pumping out raw sewage like Velma, and that they can continue to ruin these properties that we love.
Just 🏴☠️ it then
@@WhuppopotamusYT I support this, pirate those mfs and hate watch it like that! Why are people actually paying to hate watch??
I see a lot of people “watching Velma so you don’t have too” when enough people take it upon themselves to do that, hate watching literally becomes it’s own genre of movies. So well done for giving them the money they don’t deserve
if im hate watching im streaming it illegally, they aint getting a dollar for me 😭
I don't think hate watching can sustain the show. A lot of people are watching it RN because of curiosity (is it really as bad as everyone says it is? or just hate watching to bash on it, etc) because everyone is talking about it, but I doubt the interest will keep up for the rest of the season.
If big streamers hate watch but clearly direct people away I believe that's far better then saying it's mid and moving on. At least people can unify away from HBO and other crappy studios and pirate if they really want to watch it
Think about it this way: if UA-camr A hate-watches something "so you don't have to", that's 100 people that AREN'T going to watch it, even hate-watch it, because watching their favorite UA-camr react to it will wring any enjoyment that the series would have had for them.
or just pirate the show
In high school, I had an English teacher who taught a creative writing course as an elective. Took the class because I really looked up to him and was interested in writing at the time. He taught me a valuable lesson: You want the people reading to either love or hate your story and characters, but no in-between. You never want them to feel indifferent, because it means that it wasn't interesting at all.
Now usually a writer isn't going to try to intentionally make their audience hate their writing ... But well, when it happens it ends up being very effective for a reason. Writing a story with the intention of making people hate it or hate watching/reading something isn't exactly a new fad. It's been around for a while. But if the suits think they can make more money off of shitty shows and that it's easier to produce them (so more profitable by comparison since they have to put in less work), then you can bet your sweet behind that you'll see more and more dog shit like Velma being released soon.
That being said, even if Velma was one of the most watched shows on HBO, I doubt a lot of people paid for the subscription just to view that show specifically. It would make more sense if the people who already owned a subscription were the ones who watched it. People might buy things they hate just out of simple curiosity. But when you have two different shows competing for your wallet, assuming it's between a show you love and a show you hate you'll probably be more willing to pay for the former. So I can't really see this kind of thing sticking around in the long-term.
i read allat and it was good
Maybe we'll learn our lesson before it's too late
Yes
What an insightful and well thought out comment - you don't belong here, this is the yt comment section. You are (or easily could be) actually worth something in this society, now shoo.
Yeah, this. The model has a lot more viability on live TV, where advertising is making the money.
In a subscription service? I agree that it's likely going to get about zero new actual subscribers, and consequentially be a financial loss, no matter how popular.
Charlie is a true hero. I recently broke out in hives and have been wondering what could have caused this predicament. Thinking back, I only started to have this reaction after watching the first episode of Velma. Its as if my my body could not accept the absolute atrocity that is Velma, starting a severe allergic reaction after having witnessed the pits of hell when it comes to bad writing. Props to Charlie for doing us all a favor and saving us from the pain and suffering ahead
Get better soon
But you should have not assumed your mortal form can handle the sheer amount of cringe velma can output
look at my banner hector !
@@user-cb9cd5qj6kYou’re always here do something with your life please.
Bruh 😭 this shit too funny
“The worst news the world has received since the bubonic plague”
shit kills me every time💀😂
It's insane how widely loved shows from places like Netflix will still get canceled, yet Velma is hated by the world and it gets renewed.
Except Velma is on HBO Max, and HBO Max is now taking notes from Netflix.
Still mad about mindhunter
The OA comes to mind
This same thing happened with Seth Rogan's Santa Inc. All the streamers watched it and hate posted about it. Amidst the attention a season 2 was announced but it's been over a year and still no signs of a season 2 ever being made.
Inside Job was cancelled yet garbage like big mouth still has new seasons
I actually love the idea of only content creators watching these shows to make content. If this became mainstream it would mean serious damage to the bottom line of these shows and we all still get to make fun of it as a community, without even having to endure the pain of these terrible shows. I think Charlie’s really onto something here.
That would be awesome all things considered, it would definitely make WB make some serious changes to their plans, maybe have more positive watching instead, heck the freaking Harley Quinn Adult Swim series got as much talk as it did cause the show slaps and has countless memeable moments that everyone can't stop talking about, so if WB can do that with one show they can do it with another, either it means "fixing" Velma as a show to make it "watchable" or just making a new series, like I would kill for a Adult Swim Lobo show, cause that character could be the next best thing to Deadpool if WB handles him right.
I like this idea
I never even bother hate watching shows and always just skip to watching the UA-camrs talk about it
@@TheKewlPerson Same Tbh, my adhd brain won’t even let me watch something that’s not entertaining, I lose focus too easily lol. I just didn’t realize hate watching was common enough that moneys still able to be made off it.
The youtubers are literally more boring than the show lmao
I am not worried about a season 2, I am worried about this becoming the meta for film production
I'm just worried because they are prob not going to try another adult Scooby Doo series because of this i just want a series like Mystery inc. but 13+ or 18+ plz just PLZ!
it already is
Yeah this has been done for a while
Yeah, I wonder how will the studios outdone themselves by making shittier shows.
@@relicsplace9218 Why the fuck do you want an official Scooby Doo porno?
It’s the type of show that could potentially inspire others to make art all for terrible reasons.
“I shouldn’t make art because I love the craft or want to actually contribute something amazing and creative. I should make art purely out of spite! Because hate makes it much easier for me to be seen in the world!”
Hooray for soulless creation.
Charlie sacrificing himself so we don't have to hate watch. Bless him
he just like jesus fr
I actually enjoy the show
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise.
I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat.
ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons
Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
You look just like Buddy Holly, anyone ever tell you that?
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ Wrong channel
“My boy George got curious and it led to all kinds of adventures” is officially my new favorite Charlie line.
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ Happy 5th Birthday, Samuel! 🥳🤗
@Brian Pepper Happy 5th birthday, Samuel! 🥳🤗🤗
wtf!? THE BOTS ARE EVOLVING!!! RUN!
@@arcrisgonzaga7324 runnn🥹🥹
It’s inspiring that Charlie is going to bear the sins of others for the SECOND time
Hallelujah
charlies the real jesus isn't he?
@@Username12038 he was resurrected, a popular youtuber is the perfect diguise
Praise be
Praise his name! He has died for the sins of the network. Repent and stop watching bad media!
This is why you should pirate things you hate, even if you have easy legal access to it. They can't see that you're viewing it if you aren't using _their_ service.
That isn't true, they can see how many times it's been downloaded they just don't get the money and therefore don't see the monetary value in producing more of that product. Unless there is a way for them to shut down those other avenues which good luck doing anything more than playing wack a mole
Velma is the definition of: “Task Failed Successfully”
i am convinced they knew exactly what they were doing
Mindy Kaling is failing upwards.
I think they knew what they were doing, they know hate watching generates money.
Yall gotta remember. THE MONEY IS NOT MADE FROM THE PRODUCT THAT IS PUT OUT! ...the money is made from the views, and the clicks, and the comments... make up some brain dead shit for people to talk about, spread it like fire, and get paid for it. ITS THAT SIMPLE
Sse: Batwoman
Alright, Season 2 is in the works, we have time to prepare
Spread the word, rally the troops
DON'T HATE WATCH SEASON TWO
Ignoring it and never even talking about it is much better option but people are incapable so here we are. I literally would have never heard of it if people weren't going on about how much they hate it for the last 2 days. I almost watched it. it's literally the fault of videos and comments like this.
@@Bolsty7 Velma is coming for you
This is just like when gamers “boycott” the latest new game and then the game ends up breaking pre order sales records
At least pirate it if you're weird enough to hate watch it
Say it with us, DONT👏🏽HATE👏🏽WATCH👏🏽IT👏🏽
Charlie carrying the burden of Velma season 2 on his shoulders is more heroic then Frodo carrying the ring to Mordor
Yes
I'm grateful that he would put himself out there for all of us, but I'm afraid of the risks he will take.
Only he can do it for he is the only one with the purest heart 🧔🏻♀️
You soon realise how much of a burden carrying Velma season 2 is when you realise that Frodo actually needed a whole fellowship, and his Gardner to help him finish the job, saving his life over a dozen times and literally walking the entire way with him without leaving his side, and even allowing frodo to take the credit as the main hero of the whole journey.
My hat is truly off to Charlie on this one.
*"You're right mister Charlie, I can't watch it for you. But I can watch you!"*
I find that apathy is the best way to let things like this die. If nobody cares in any capacity, even just to hate it, these things will go away.
This is the oldest trick in the book of streaming media. Producers greenlight a batch of 30-40 episodes and then split them into two seasons but withhold the information of the second to the public part till the series airs so they can brag about how successful the show is. That's why it seems like no matter how bad a show is they always have at least two seasons.
but why? this doesn't answer anything. if nobody watches it then they burned capital on making more episodes. it's a private business and their job is to make profits, not to pretend bad shows are popular. it's not a government agency that can burn funds on pumping out propaganda.
@JewTube001 investors form a 1 season contract and rather than make another contract, they duplicate the amount ordered in order to save money and time making contract since it is the same amount of money offered at the beginning
How brave of Charlie, sacrificing himself for us all to stop hate watching under the pretense of enjoying it.
He watches them so we don’t have to
Wait
its hard to believe he aint jesus now
i dont hate the show.
@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 cool
He wants the clicks from watching it.
"The opposite of love isn't hate. It's apathy. " - razorfist
Okay so if hate isn't the opposite of love what is hate the opposite of? I'm legitimately curious.
@@darkcrimsonmagi6528 Hate is the opposite of fear, maybe?
@@darkcrimsonmagi6528 Also apathy
No the opposite of fear is horror is comedy. So the opposite of fear is laughter.
What video
People just don't know how to hate watch properly. It's easy you just have to sail the seven seas.
I’m in the animation industry and it’s pretty common nowadays for shows to be ordered two seasons at a time with the second season just not announced/released until the first comes out. So perhaps it isn’t that Velma’s so popular it’s getting a season 2. But more it wasn’t bad enough for the season 2 already being made to be cancelled.
Why do studios do that?
Is it true that a lot of shows are actually one season split into two for marketing?
@David Hong you need to keep your animators employed or they will look for a new job.
This should be pinned
@@davidhong1934 commitment no matter how stupid the product will be. It happened with sequel Star Wars and the toys they made, to this day you can run into one of those toys in your local target I believe.
@@davidhong1934 I'm assuming because they think anything will hit it BIG, so after the second season runs dry and the big big numbers don't come in, cancelled, same fate for each subsequent season.
Let's give props to the "Velma" show for doing something I never thought possible.
Uniting the Internet
in 2050 historians will remember 2023 as the year we narrowly avoided nuclear war as Germany is considering sending tanks to Ukraine, we got Velma season 2 and everyone just found someone else to hate... together. Mindy Whatsherface.
The way I look at hate watching, is that it’s the same as giving trolls attention. Them getting a interaction out of you is exactly what they wanted and just encourages them to do the exact same thing they’ve been doing. The more you give them attention, the more it shows they can get results from you: the target.
👆=🤓
not if u pirate the shows you know you'll hate but watch anyway
"it sucks fuck" genuinely one of the greatest lines, i will now be using this quote in my everyday life
“Is it truly so popular from hate watching that they can justify another season for rage baiting” is one of the most interesting quotes I’ve heard in a long time
It's taking the exact slice that "news" media does. Rage gets clicks, it gets views, it gets shared, and they profit... At the demise if society.
Unfortunately that has people fighting each other over divisive topics who would most likely hang out and have a beer, or cook on the grill.
Were entering a new era
Man, so true, I heard this show was terrible and yet several of my friends literally watched it because they heard all the drama around it being so bad. It doesn’t matter if its crap, if people keep eating it, they’ll keep making it!
Well the thing with streaming shows is people watching it is completely irrelevant. New people paying the subscription to watch it is the problem. If ANYONE in their right mind who didn’t already have a subscription got one to watch this abomination id question their sanity if they’re just hate watching.
Let them. It's not harming you personally, is it?
@@dougfisher2060 it kinda is tho if other networks also start to go trough this cycle and then we get more shit shows
@@dougfisher2060 so fucking tired of this argument "it's not harming you/anyone". Yeah just let them give views to all the suits ruining beloved IPs
@@herdoman5169 If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple. But that doesn't mean you can keep others from watching it, you're not their mother.
As someone who works on films and animation, I can tell you right now that usually 2 seasons are ordered when any animated show is made
Usually the next season is around 1/4 of the way done by the time the first season comes out
That's why so many shows are "renewed for season 2" whether they were good or bad: they were already being worked on
God i hope so
Weird that’s almost the exact opposite of what I would’ve thought. A show being cancelled on season two feels strange to me. I thought I had noticed a ton of shows being cancelled on either season one or season three with two being the outlier
Can you tell us why shows like Velma gets greenlit? I really want to know why obviously bad shows get the money/time?
If that was the case why did they take down the other Scooby Doo show that sounded like it was basically done?
It was nice learning something new. Thank you for sharing that information.
Firefly got 1 season and Velma already had a second on the way? Thats just insane...
I've been letting Charlie cover my awful shows for a long time now, and I didn't stop at Velma. This world needs to wake up and let Charlie do this for us.
What are we adults 😂 cmon now
yeah fucking forming an opinion of my own!
Yeah, and make him the next Mr Beast, real brilliant.
The cure for these shows is blissful ignorance. Just shut them off.
It would be great if in season 2 whenever they break the fourth wall and talk directly to camera they addressed Charlie personally by name.
That would actually be kinda cool
That one moment would be better than the entire show
I've been saying the same thing about the gaming industry for years. We are constantly rewarding bad behaviour which is why game quality has tanked and monetization has exploded in general. Diablo immortal comes out and everyone is like "Ugh this is disgraceful" 3 weeks later "Ooooo I can't wait for Diablo 4!". We are telling them that they can get away with it. We are gonna see a lot more of these types of movies and games with no regard for the consumer until we stop spending or watching.
I think we’re way too trusting of video game companies, even after they do something bad we still support them and allow them to continue doing the same stuff
This is why I just play the super Nintendo games my father bought me in 96. I'm a paranoid motherfucker when it comes to this scammy/buggy shit. Also I still miss my original Xbox games but my stepmother's neice sold them for drugs.
This is honestly why I don’t really play games like that anymore. I don’t have the money to get a lack luster unfinished game anymore
@@TheScholarabull Indies and Fangames are the way, I say.
I haven’t watched a modern movie or show since 2016. I think I’ve primarily played indie games during that time, too.
In the original one where you mentioned "I'm glad they took Scooby behind the barn and put him down, he didn't deserve this." well looks like he's coming back with a bloody revenge to kill everything they see. Golly this is gonna be great.
i never hate watch, i find it more enjoyable to watch people react to the shows and then make 6 hour video essays on them lol
Facts lol 😂
you're still really invested in something not cause u like it but because it's interesting or intrigues you. whether it's directly or not I'd still say that's contributing to it's overall popularity
The show is actually very good if your never watch scooby doo
Me too. The jokes are much better. But I just feel bad to those who watched it. But I hear ignoring stuff like this is much better.
Or just read plot or recap, so much people giving effort to dissects this festering corpse and give us autopsy report without gore
They really turned Velma from Fan Favourite to Fan Hated.
That deserves an award.
A pile of 💩 is their award lol.
what is this fatherless pfp im not gonna lie
Velma is good if you never watch scooby do before
I still love Velma. THIS is NOT velma so lol
@@zegobot9674no it isnt
Charlie describing how he showers is a better plot then all Velma episodes.
@hello your a bot but your not wrong
@@ultradeathboy He's not the bot you damn goofy goober. it's the weird guy above him that you wanna grill.
Agreed Penguinz0. Last year Netflix lost subscribers and everyone call all the shows bad expect Wednesday and Squid Game and Cup head show. HBO is ruining all of our favorite old style childhood cartoons. How they dare ruining Velma's And Shaggy's White skin colour to Black. These two are my childhood characters from Scooby Doo franchise.
I saw on some Websites called fandom who making fan art out of cartoon or anime character to dressing inappropriate just like Gacha heat.
ALL of Favorite old school cartoons are All cancelled and the internet can't tell me why. Ok I will tell the reason why it's because of Directors and Creator Leaving the TV station or getting fired. The government banned all of good stuff for cartoons
Cuz they found jokes from WW2, 9/11, Iran Iraq War,Soviet Afghanistan war and other funny jokes in other cartoons and even Family guy.
6:51 Charlie really embraced being UA-cam Jesus right there
It all makes sense
The most fun part of watching Charlie's videos is painting a picture in your head of all the witty and sometimes silly metaphors he throws at you, hilarious
Lol ... ikr👍 He said a hilarious one last week...
He said something smelled SO bad, it smells like 2 Garbage Trucks having sex in a Sulfur yard. 😅🤣🤣
All the while your braincells rot
@@igorz4582
Bro if you don't like him don't watch him😭
I don't think it's right for Charlie to be like; "No YOU CAN'T HATE WATCHING because then they'll win. Only I can hate watch it for you"
He should also be watching it through pirated sources so they don't get that satisfaction
But if he's the only one to watch it, where will he get the pirated version from?
But he does it not just to watch it becuase he knew it was going to be bad, but for youtube to review and talk about it for his job, most people just want to watch it to watch it, if only a few youtbers and a few others watch it it will still hurt them
Yes
I'm pretty sure famous UA-camrs have to watch this stuff legally if they plan on making money off of their videos or else suffer severe repercussions from the rights holders and/or UA-cam itself. Pirating may be a legal gray area for personal/non-commercial consumption, especially for old stuff that is never being legally re-released (shut up, Nintendo!), but UA-camrs normalizing piracy in their monetized videos potentially watched by millions is just asking for a lawsuit.
@@JeffreyThrash He doesn't have to say how he watched it tho
Charlie willingly laying his life on the line for us- shoveling thru hazardous waste for OUR entertainment! What a saint! 🤧
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.2 ok 👍 👌
look at my banner hector !
Charlie fr Jesus
@@dook6679 as a Christian I gotta say he's being a real Christlike example ngl
@@user-cb9cd5qj6k I'm better than you mwah. Imagine running a bot sad
HBO max cancelling over 30 animated shows from their service but Velma gets a new season
Remember!
Being a pirate is always an option!
YARRRR SET SAIL MATEYS
in this case, piracy is the only ethical option
@soul wrath ⸜⁄ no
@louis06lmao Hell NO
@YeaMan no he didn't. You're a liar
i love when people make shows like this. it makes me appreciate actually good shows.
6:01 the transition between emotions from happy to sad Charlie must of finished watching Velma between those cuts
LMAO
I think the fact so many content creators hate watch is what began this spree of hate-watching among the masses, to be honest. The amount of hate-watching that is happening these days is a pretty recent phenomenon, and the lack of genuinely good movies and shows these days is making it a more viable option.
The scariest part is that this could be the start of a new trend of bastardizing IPs we all know and love simply because studios know they’ll make rage money off us…strange times we live in
Start? No, this is but the peak of the trend you fear. Hollywood has been doing it for years, with everything from The Witcher to Halo to Star Wars to far too many to count. My fear is the peak will last so long it becomes the new norm, and shows like Velma will be competing to be the most unbearable piece of "entertainment" possible. It started with not caring about quality control, then dropped to actively (and openly) hating the IPs they work on and their fans. Now it has seemingly taken on the trend's final form with Velma, which is to actively hate all of humanity and do everything in their power to inflict as much pain and suffering on us as humanly possible.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 nah, it started with fans asking for IPs to return, only to hate on or ignore the very IPs that they want to return. Velma doesn't get made without 15 Scooby Doo reboots failing and the fans still asking for more when they couldn't support the 15 reboots they wanted.
@@majinnando6711 I've watched 15 Scooby Doo reboots and loved them all. I don't know anyone who was a fan of the original that didn't like at least the first 15 years of reboots/sequels/movies, so I am not sure where "hate or ignore" comes from, because Scooby Doo content has always been fire before this dumpster fire took "fire" literally and set fire to the franchise.
EDIT: Now that I am thinking about it, reviews I have seen even say things like "How could you screw up something so easy to get right?" about Scooby Doo because it has *always* been successful in whatever form it takes. The live action movies even had what, 3, 4? because they were doing well despite being considered "the worst" of the franchise pre-Velma.
@@peaceandloveusa6656 well hey, that's dope, from what I've seen though Scrappy Doo, What's New Scooby Doo, and a bunch of other reboots, spinoffs, etc. were booted from network for lack of viewers, or people not even knowing they existed, and then those same people asking for a new Scooby Doo when they didn't support or watch any of the content that came out the last 35 years chocked full of Scooby and the gang in their original form. My point basically is I'm seeing a lot of people who watch this and then ask why Scooby Doo isn't being made, when it has been, they just didn't care enough to support until they changed something about it to attract new viewers. Also, let's not lie, Velma compared to Scrappy Doo makes Velma look like a piece of art, I refuse to think anyone who actually watched Scrappy Doo puts it over Velma as a better show when that entire show was a dumpster fire.
@@majinnando6711 I cannot take seriously anyone who says Velma is better than literally anything, much less any other Scooby Doo IP out there.
While I personally prefer when the gang is together over Scrappy Doo, but my dad (60) loves Scrappy Doo and still watches it to this day. I cannot see a single person actually watching Velma years after it airs.
Also, you do not seem to understand how Scooby Doo operates if you think it keeps getting "cancelled." It was a seasonal show from the start, meaning each new season was it's own self-contained show with it's own name. It was only in the modern day that each individual show started having a few year runs for more modern, lengthy arcs. As far as I can tell, the show has never been dropped due to ratings. They just finish the arc they wanted to tell then start on the next one.
Charlie’s really gonna hoist himself into the battlefield to shield us from these shitty shows. God help him
He took the hit for us when he watched Cuties so we NEVER had to.
No way on Earth I'd wanna watch it.
He is god
come watch me play with myself ambatukum if you don't
the hero we desperately need but don't deserve
@@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK someone’s a little salty
Velma is what happens when Mindi takes a MySpace “What Scooby-Doo character are you” quiz too far
it nearly feels like it’s bad on purpose cuz they knew this would happen
6:51 Charlie slowly accepting that he is Jesus
what a hero, he’s willing to sacrifice his own sanity so we don’t have to watch velma season 2
Dear God the bots
@@tacoboss_ they're exhausting
@@tacoboss_UA-cam really do gotta do something about that
Ironic. The bots want us to hate watch them.
Whatever, Laylow Salamanca.
To see you finally come to a plausible answer to “who is this show for” after days and days of the question torturing your soul, truely warms my heart 💜
how you gonna have a skweezy pic and no caps lock or crackhead stories
@@mckenze9274 ???????
Its a show only the creators would enjoy , Mindy specifically
come watch me play with myself ambatukum if you don't
I’ve yet to even see a meme of this show. Only way I knew it existed was from mentions in livestream chats. I hope the algorithm keeps it that way.
Charlie is throwing himself on the sword for the rest of us. Bless this man!
He will sacrifice himself for our sins again.
“i’ll bear the burden of their sin and i’ll carry it for all of us”
thank you jesus
They really looked at the amount of hate Velma was getting and went, "Oh we're definitely doing a second season. What could possibly go wrong?"
Edit: A lot of you were mentioning that as long they're getting exposure, it doesn't matter. I'm sure in the long run all of that is going to plummet and the show would be 12 ft under in no time.
keep giving them money
If what we’ve heard about “Scoobi” is correct, they should buckle up!
Lmao nothing is going wrong they’re making the most money they have off an adult animation series since prime family guy. They are killing the game. Just for different reasons.
well yeah they know people are gonna hate watch it regardless
It's as if you didn't fucking watch this video you commented on
I can't wait to see Meat Canyon's rendition of the show.
Edit: Called it.
This is why Velma will succeed imo. People will congregate over things they hate as much as they will over things they like. It’s giving people exactly what they want via third party content.
He would make the show more watchable
@@pod9363people will congregate over things they hate more than things they like. Hate draws people together with a far wider reach and finer net.
@@Muongoing.97c true but the gain from peapol likeing something lasts longer than the opposite. Atlest when it comes to entertainment.
The TV industry functions exactly like narcissism. Narcissists love attention, and they don't care whether the attention is positive or negative. As long as they get attention of any kind, that's all that matters to them
Not all heroes wear capes, they do however have long, luscious flowing hair and nerves of steel. Charlie is out here doing the work of gods
Some might say he is God
@Logan Stairs nobody cares
some heroes wear white T shirts
@@hayden.is.my.name. It’s a bot. Don’t feed it.
Charlie is the best version of Florida Man
3:49 “It’s just like when you know my boy George got curious and it led to all kinds of adventures” - Charlie 😂
I love Charlie, he's literally sacrificing himself for the betterment of mankind. He truly is the savior of all time.
literal jesus
@@ricksimon1180 actuall jesus
Amen
He got the long draggy hair. He's the one!
There's a reason he looks like Jesus
Charlie blinks once for every syllable he speaks
We actually live in a world where “even the critics hated it” is a thing we say. That’s fucking wild
@did No its not, that’s why you have to advertised using a spam bot
Because most people actually don't know how to review something. They review stuff based on "Did I kinda like it or nah", there's no knowledge about anything, acting is irrelevant, writing, story, lighting, cgi, theme, continuity, ...
That's why superhero movies have ridiculous ratings, they're not good movies but because of bias and "hehe I enjoyed it", they're getting 9/10+ absolutely ludicrous, how can a superhero movies even compete with something like "The Shawshank Redemption".
@@taserrr That's why Charlie's genuine thoughts on Moistmeter actually make sense because he puts time and effort into his thoughts on whatever movie or show he's talking about, and like you said it's not just going off "hehe me like it 10/10"
@@Webb_Studios your responding to a bot. the only thing worse than a comments section full of bots, is a comments section full of people talking to bots. please stop.
its the same things as "even journalists are telling the truth" It means a lot, because journalists, and critics, can easily be successful lying. Sometimes, these groups of people arent willing to lie, and that's powerful.
It's hard making something almost everyone loves, it takes talent to make something almost unilaterally hated.
Lack of which would be more accurate, otherwise you imply things like brickleberry and it's clones, Fairview, and Velma have talent at the wheel
@@f-22raptorlandingzone30 A talent for making really terrible shows that are universally hated, yes
Well I wouldn't say "talent" but certainly effort. Never realized Mindy K was a man-hater.
@@SableTwoSeven Mindy K practically hates the entire Scooby Doo franchise and fanbase too.
Talented... or tainted with daemonic forces?
Someone give this man several Purple Hearts for his service to humanity.
💜💜💜
He died for our sins ^^
@@gaydonaldtrumpyeah he literally says that in the video
@@flameshana9 give him more
I don't have an anime girl pfp so it won't be as powerful
Hate Watching to me would be like if boycotting a product was to buy something then just break it in front of the person instead of not buy the product altogether. The latter sends the message more.
A little known thing: Animation takes a while to be created, and typically, even if after a show just begins, the show animators are working on the second season. It's a basic animation business tactic, where they continue creating new episodes for upcoming seasons while the current one is just airing. Sure, there may be a hiatus from time to time, but they want everything to run like clockwork.
Too bad re:zero doesn’t get worked on right away after it has a good season
@@stonalisa3729 wow thank you for that completely warranted opinion and a logical response to the original comment!
@@cookiedookie4207 I agree with him
@@stonalisa3729 gotta up them light novel sales , be 30 years and it may not finish even with new season probably.
No where near as much time as people seem to think. Modern animation using modern software and using a generic industry animation style. This sorta animation studio has the formula down to a science and can pump out this shit with a fraction of the effort the dudes in the 2000s were putting out.
The worst part of a season two is that companies will realize there is a sort of market for hate watching shows that is actually profitable.
They started realising it with she hulk, they’re starting to take the “Facebook journalist” route
Ofc I hear Charlie started talking about that right after I post that comment😂
I don't think it would last though. It's the sort of thing that many people will watch for the first season to see how bad it gets but nobody will watch for the second season because they already know what to expect
Unless it becomes So Bad It's Good but I don't see Velma becoming that
How do we ironically watch these shows without letting the suits know we watched it?
RAISE THE FLAGS MATEYS!
Got any recommended cites 🏴☠️🫡
The return of the Pirates Of The West!
@@dead_6931 soap2day
How about burningseries? We are such rebels
Don't for a second think they don't keep tabs on how downloaded shit is. Just don't watch stuff that you hate, there is so much good media around, espand there instead
It’s incredibly admirable for you to shoulder all that hate on you own for the purpose of helping us lead happier lives. Thank you so much Charlie
I can imagine Charlie doing a handstand in the shower with his legs spread.
I don't WANT to imagine it, but this is the world we live in.
[a robot stole my comment and reposted it. That's a first...]
I share your pain
Roughly speaking, that's true chat. And it's not immediately apparent that you've missed the mark...or "sinned" in your assessment of the hierarchy, bucko. 🤔
@YeaMan They spelled the word "page" correctly this time... _WTF?_
Are they an improved version of the old scam bots?
😬 _My CPU is a neural net processor...A learning computer._
@@snickle1980 it’s spelt incorrectly usually to get past filters (at least what I assume)
@@firo729 nah I’m 90% sure it’s spelled incorrectly to get attention because every time I see it people fall for it’s incorrect spelling. Any attention is good attention, kind of like the Velma show, lol.
Charlie sacrificing his sanity to be the only hate watcher of Velma season 2 is truly the second greatest sacrifice in the world. We do not deserve such grace.
*i’m better than every bot youtuber in bot-kind’s twisted jerkish ego!*
except i’m giving you a choice to watch me. i’m not a content enforcer, i’m just a guy.
@soulwrathlol Must be a bot, nothing with a pulse would like Velma
Let's be real, everyone else would cave in and watch it
@soulwrathlol YOOO my first comment to have bot replies in it. Truly a monumental day for me fr fr
Boys: “Once upon a time…”
Men: “This is the story of…”
Legends: “With my bare bottom pointed up at the showerhead, I began to ponder…”
Im better than penguinz0 LMAO
Is this a joke or not?
LOL
How do so many bots exist
@@ultradeathboy I have no idea, I just ignore their existence and move on. They do make reading comments annoying as hell tho
The fact that so many people have nothing they enjoy so they will spend their time on things they hate instead is so sad
Thank you Charlie for entertaining my every meal of the day
Sameee
Ok
His content is also like a typical everyday meal.
@louis06lmao no
This is straight facts
Charlie is like a deer in the middle of the road watching a 180mph truck come it’s way
He is all here for it!
"Let me watch it for you" is the most Jesus thing Charlie has ever said
I think the thing with shows thriving off of hate is that eventually the hate gets old and they fade into irrelevancy, they simply don’t have the same bond that shows people like do
Stranger things and house of the dragon
@@ayoCC They're actually relatively decent. They don't really butcher anything or be purposefully shit
@@Khergit I thought they were positive examples
@@ayoCC ? but you listed them as a response to the original comment which indicates they're shows that thrive off hate
@@Khergit well I'd did intend for them to be positive examples 😂
It is important to know when it comes to animation, a season 2 being announced so close to the airing of season 1, means it was (most likely) already approved to have 2 seasons anyway. Animation takes longer to plan out, so season 2's are often worked on while season 1 is coming out. And the head line of 'season 2 announced' is just for news outlets.
These shows are the gift that keep on giving to comedy shows like RiffTrax and/or the classic Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Not true. It is very difficult to riff off of this type of content. MST3K does best with bland, cheesy, boring, yet harmless showings. From what I understand a show like Velma is too crude and on the nose for it to be susceptible to riffing without stooping to its lows.
From what I understand, MST3K seems to make fun of mostly ancient and obscure garbage from the mid-20th century, or low-hanging fruit like "mockbusters" from Asylum. Basically, the time for the movies they watch to financially benefit from hate-watching has long passed by several decades now, thus we can safely mock stuff like Manos: Hands of Fate without fear of executives cynically finding ways to profit off the hate--at least until they run out of ideas for remakes of classic, iconic movies, books and games in favor of remaking the worst stuff ever and somehow making them more offensive to the senses.
“Don’t watch Velma let me because I like watching bad things”
The millions of moistcritikal fans who idolise him and copy his personality: “oh shit me too”
*Velma season 3 announced*
I mean he’s totally right about the train wreck rubbernecker theory
He's doing it for the views tbh
@@rachel1215well no shit he makes cold hard cash on this
@@rachel1215 Charlie can make up a thousand other things to do a video on, this Velma situation is hardly worth farming views for.
bro is gatekeeping a shitty show while also being a hypocrite
I have never heard of idea of hate watching. I guess I value my time.