I was part of the team that originally built precious metal in 1987. The only thing "original P-51" on the whole airframe is the tail, from the rudder on back. To get the griffon motor to fit, the firewall was moved rearward by almost 2 feet to keep the airframe within the CG envelope. At one point in time, one of the original designers of the P-51 consulted with us during the build. The project manager for the build is still restoring and maintaining P-51s today.
Aside from the beauty and performance o the aircraft, i am most impressed by the photography. It's rare that this type of recording can keep the subject in frame and focused 100% of the time. This is exceptional.
@cannonfodder6299 lol yea. The P-51 didn't even come close to having concepts in mind that determined area rule, all-moving tails, ect. One thing it did try very hard in and did pretty well for its day was more manufacturing focused - the goal of trying to keep Laminar flow around the aircraft, namely the wings, in an effort to reduce parasitic drag. For an aircraft that was produced as cheaply as it was, as fast as it was and as much as it was, to even have manufacturing results that had good characteristics to try and maintain laminar flow over the wings was impressive.
@@robinpriester6496 I was fortunate enough to see one a new smart a** b**** at the airport. There that had been restoand I mean, I was just amazed amazed as amazed at how it looked brand new as well. It's just a it's artwork.
@@boburwell9921 how is that relevant? lots of things are british, but Jaguar were NOT a mark of excellence, looked nice in the 60's but rustbuckets and range rovers are now the MOST stolen cars for crime.
@@boburwell9921 Ehhh sure. Based on a hybrid of German and UK technology. First Jet engine UK, first rocket engine, Germany. Gyroscope that made rockets possible. UK. 1743. BEFORE YOUR COUNTRY EVEN EXISTED. Want to keep pissing into the wind?
@Mark Grudt the original mustang had a Packard v 12 and the performance was OK.. tben rolls Royce sent them a merlin..and the p 51 became a true fighter..now its got a grown up engine.. supposedly there were 3 of these prototypes in 1945
Nah, not gone. They’ve said they’re relocating to a new airfield, but they have no intentions to stop the racing any time soon. Can’t say I blame ‘em for wanting a change of scenery. Roswell is a gorgeous area with an extensive aerospace history.
More crazy is that the RAF had a twin engine bomber (De Havilland Mosquito Mk B35 apparently, with Merlin 77 engines) in 1942 that achieved 437 mph with and could cruise faster than a P51 all the way to Berlin and back. Pity there's none in airworthy condition or any P38 Lightnings to compete if there is a class ?
Reminds me of the old Red Baron Flying Service P-51 that crashed with Steve Hinton at the controls, in 1979 at Reno. When we saw the fireball we figured he was a dead man. But he survived with a broken back, leg and ankle. they said his cockpit was almost a mile from the main wreckage.
With the counter rotating props and that big RR Griffon engine... cranked up my speakers and the sweet sound of forced induction V12 made me cry tears of joy!! Love it... Bucket list trip is the Air Races to see these magnificent beasts in action!
Man, I love the narrow sleek canopy it really works with the lines of a Mustang. I have an unrelenting passion for prop planes, there is nothing like a low and fast prop buzzing past. That sound is like music to me.
I love this plane because it gives us a look at the last Spitfire that never was. In 1945 Supermarine developed a Spitfire with the Mustang lamina flow wing and a 2400hp Griffin engine with contra rotating props. Because it no longer had the iconic elliptical wing they renamed it the Supermarine Spiteful, only 17 were built and it never saw service as the jet age had arrived. However the power plant was used in the Shackleton bomber, I assume that is where this planes engine came from. So now we have an idea of how the ultimate Spitfire would have performed.
@@devinthierault @Josh Jack You are both correct, all the Spitefuls built had the Sea Fury 5 blade prop but material I have read tells that this was an interim development stage and the intent was to use the still under development contra prop system.
Fantastic, very nice color of the fuselage of the Precious Metul plane! Great takeoff then laps or tracks, maneuvering speed super video !! your demonstration was awesome, 440,383 MPH and second pass 438,032 MPH, congratulations the pilote to all who participated in this video. Thank you.
I have seen this video numerous times now. And the sound when this plane passes by gives me goosebumps - absolutely spectacular. Thank you for keeping these mashines going :-)
The back propeller has smaller diameter than the front one has. The blades seems to be a Rotol type, but it is different. The contra porp Griffon engined Spitfire has same prop diameters, cutted blade tips, the Shackleton also has similar contra-rotating props, so this one could be camde from the FR-47 Seafire.
kolbola This particular engine was originally from a Shackleton, then it went to the Miss Budweiser sponsored hydroplane racing team from the 80’s. The prop was a stock unit that the team had custom cut to have the scalloped tips.
***** Precious Metal uses a larger-displacement Rolls Griffon engine, like the later marques of the Spitfire. If I remember correctly, the engine and contrarotating props are from a postwar British airliner.
BlackBunik These particular blades came from an Avro Shackleton bomber and then were modified by the team, but you are correct the later Mk. Spitfires did use this setup, the Mk.47 being one of them, Supernarine also used this setup on one of their last piston fighters as well (Supermarine Seafang).
Wow! What a beautiful airplane and the performance is amazing. And also, Those 2 propellers spinning real fast looks kind of intimidating to me and the sound of the plane starting up also intimidating.
listen to her purr....best music I've heard on a video in a while. I flew my P51 so much I finally wore it out. So a friend of mine gave me his P51 - said he was not flying it much anymore....had moved on to jets. No, not the full scale.....an RC plane.
From my understanding, gyroscopic procession and P-factor would still affect it, just torque would not be as much of an issue. Still needs more right rudder.
@@guntherachterhof4876 Oh yeah definitely. You can't full throttle a (stock) P-51 on take off from the go or you'd go off the runway. (Generally speaking we always ease power on, because more air speed means better rudder authority)
Yep, I thought so. No matter what a bunch of guys do, there's always this one guy. The guy that takes everything to a new level! That guy! In this bunch, this is that guy. Jezzz counter rotating prop on a P-51! Yeah thanks. Damn nice work.
Beautiful ,absolutely beautiful. Love the counter rotating props so no torque problems. I always wondered how the p51d would look if developed further. ( There was a design in the 80's that used small jets to boost speed but it was dropped) .p51 d has always been my " pin up" of ww2 fighters. Poetry in motion. Best regards.
I was at the 1999 Air races when Miss Ashley II crashed on Saturday. She was a beautiful aircraft which was highly modified with Contra-rotating props and a Griffon engine. She had learjet wings. Cause of crash was the rear stabilizer (somewhat similar to the Ghost crash) came off and torque tore off the wings and the fuselage landed on an unoccupied Winnebago in an eastern community. Pilot never stood a chance.
Even radically modified, the p-51 is the most beautiful airplane ever made. Side note: did the counter rotating props increase the top speed at low altitude? And were they variable pitch?
The Tu-95 Bear uses counter rotating props and I didn't know why that plane used CR props until I asked around which makes sense now....CR props are cool to see
Is a very fine piece of technology with the modifications involved in the desing, but i prefer an original P-51D fighter plane, even today. She was a fantastic aircraft, with the Packard-Merlin engine and her frame line original, sorry my bad english, and greetings from Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina.
Counter rotating props also help to reduce what is known as the "P" effect as well when flying. That is the technical term to when a prop produces so much torque that it will make turning, taxing and taking off with the aircraft harder on one side than the other. As developers started to produce engines that produced more torque, the "P" effect really started to become a hindrance. So much so that you either needed special training in how to counter this effect, or something like a counter-rotating prop. Look at the Russian T-95 "Bear" Extremely powerful turboprops, with counter rotating propellers
Trying to come out of a high altitude power dive with that monster would be 'interesting'. A beautiful aircraft. Does it have an original Rolls-Royce engine from the period? Note: I read down further and got the answer to the engine question. Until they were fitted with all those horses, it's amazing how the U.S. thought it had limited use. Refitted with the RR, and with the addition of extra tanks for further range, it became the perfect escort fighter for long range bombing runs. One of the top fighters of the war.
If this thing can do 700kph on the deck, what can it do at Altitude? they had planes with similar power doing 750Kph+ ready for war at alt, this thing is surely lighter due to weapons and radio gear removal/modernisation and more aerodynamic due to cockpit changes?
All racing is pushing the envelope, what is/are the limiting factor(s) here? Is it turning the plane as fast as you can without it breaking? Is it g-force limit? Is it having the most powerful engine? Best aerodynamics?
Damn! Contra-rotating propellers? I have to wonder, aside from maintenance issues, how this would have affected the original P--51s performance in wartime use? It must be a wonderful feeling not to have to worry about how all that torque would affect your flight dynamics.
They built one at Wright Paterson AFB during WWII. Just one... they had insurmountable issues with the prop gearbox. Technology was not quite there yet. My uncle was an engineer there at the time.
@@richardoakley8800, You nailed the primary reason the P-51 became the legendary fighter it was. The Allison V1710 engine that equipped the P-40 was not adequate for high-altitude work where the bombers they were supposed to escort flew. When one of the test pilots for Rolls Royce strongly suggested that their Merlin engines would be much superior, he was right. It didn't take long for everyone else to come around to his point of view. The Merlin was a heavier engine than the V1710. So to maintain the proper center-of-gravity, North American engineers added a large additional fuel tank behind the pilot, greatly increasing the Mustang's range on internal fuel. Throw on some drop-tanks and the Allies found the long-range fighter they had been looking for! The Roll Royce Merlin was, as Jay Leno put it in his video on the Merlin (ua-cam.com/video/GYcKdK7hmEo/v-deo.html), "The engine that won World War II."
I'm just a blues guitar player who likes to get me breath taken away by the baddest ass racing plane Reno's ever seen. Thanx for a perfectly done video. ...and cheers
With the introduction of the Griffon, R-R changed the firing order from that used in the Merlin. Quote from Wiki: "Merlin firing order: 1A, 6B, 4A, 3B, 2A, 5B, 6A, 1B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 2B ('A' being the right bank as viewed from the rear of the engine) Griffon firing order: 1A, 4B, 3A, 2B, 5A, 1B, 6A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 2A, 6B (changed from the Merlin to reduce stress on the crankshaft)" The Merlin has a musical hum that gives you goosebumps and makes your hair stand on end.. IMHO the Griffon doesn't sound quite as smooth.
I think the Griffon has the same firing order as the Allison. The Merlin sounds more aggressive to me, like it's got radical cams out of a hot rod. But there's no replacement for displacement, and 2240 cubes beats 1650 any day of the week.
I was at the races that year. So it wasn't the fastest, but god damn it was one of the best sounding!Just another reason I love living a few miles from the Stead airport, and in such a quiet neighborhood. Except of course in the couple weeks around race time. I don't think anyone minds the extra noise.
There was a third Griffon powered racer at Reno in the past that no one has mentioned - Miss Ashley II. Built from the ground up as a racer and not from a P51 airframe, although it looked like a P51. Lear Jet wings and horizontal tail, Cessna main gears. It was a beautiful racer, and unfortunately, never got to see its true potential, because it broke up during a race at Reno in 1999, apparently due to tail flutter.
Contra-rotating propellers were not used on WW.II combat P-51 Mustangs. "Precious Metal" is a special, experimental category, air racer modification of the P-51,
Team pulled the Merlin out, moved the firewall back some 2ft to make room for the Griffon engine, which I understand came from an Avro Shackleton bomber. Certainly a fine looking aircraft, but it should have been left original, imho!!
Interesting. The Italian seaplane with floats, the Macchi Castoldi MC72 set a record of 440 in the 30's. Had contra rotating props. But that was in a straight line. Wonder how much speed it costs to go in a circuit. Anyone know?
Oh my, what a sound that Griffon makes, and beautiful propellers too. In a Shackleton it was horrendous, but as a single... Fantastic. Now, anyone out there have a Napier Sabre engine for a P51?
I was part of the team that originally built precious metal in 1987. The only thing "original P-51" on the whole airframe is the tail, from the rudder on back. To get the griffon motor to fit, the firewall was moved rearward by almost 2 feet to keep the airframe within the CG envelope. At one point in time, one of the original designers of the P-51 consulted with us during the build. The project manager for the build is still restoring and maintaining P-51s today.
What about the belly radiator? Looks like P-51.
Im not sure if I like that canopie. you could have mad it look more like a P51 A
@@eliaslundstedt5607 The drag was probably too high. In racing form follows function.
Lotza $$$$$$!!!!!!!!
Cockpit looks more like a "C" model than a "D" model.
Aside from the beauty and performance o the aircraft, i am most impressed by the photography. It's rare that this type of recording can keep the subject in frame and focused 100% of the time. This is exceptional.
dhy5342 now the photographer needs to video a Bigfoot lol.
nathan, Bigfoot exists naturally out of focus. If you ever see one in focus it is a fake.
a beauty. +1 nice photography here for sure
Rick Std llllllol',,kmkkjjkjjjjjjjjjujjhhhhumn. Ggg
Recording done by a truely well educated photographer using manual focusing :-)
Truly one of the best prop planes ever built not just for his power and speed but it's control and handling definitely decades ahead of its time
Well, not decades. Jets replaced em in under a decade.
@cannonfodder6299 lol yea. The P-51 didn't even come close to having concepts in mind that determined area rule, all-moving tails, ect.
One thing it did try very hard in and did pretty well for its day was more manufacturing focused - the goal of trying to keep Laminar flow around the aircraft, namely the wings, in an effort to reduce parasitic drag.
For an aircraft that was produced as cheaply as it was, as fast as it was and as much as it was, to even have manufacturing results that had good characteristics to try and maintain laminar flow over the wings was impressive.
@@robinpriester6496 I was fortunate enough to see one a new smart a** b**** at the airport. There that had been restoand I mean, I was just amazed amazed as amazed at how it looked brand new as well. It's just a it's artwork.
@@Nurhaal Area rule wasn't even remotely understood at the time of ANY WW2 designs...
@@Jacksonflax uh... yes. I know. Reread my post.
Precious Metal Is the most beautiful aircraft .those counter-rotating props are incredible.
The mighty Rolls Royce Griffon, one of the most powerfull V12 engines ever made.
British - remember that.
@@rafezetter8003 jaguar and Range Rover, don’t forget that
@@boburwell9921 how is that relevant? lots of things are british, but Jaguar were NOT a mark of excellence, looked nice in the 60's but rustbuckets and range rovers are now the MOST stolen cars for crime.
@@rafezetter8003 remember the moon landing? 🇺🇸
@@boburwell9921 Ehhh sure. Based on a hybrid of German and UK technology. First Jet engine UK, first rocket engine, Germany.
Gyroscope that made rockets possible. UK. 1743. BEFORE YOUR COUNTRY EVEN EXISTED.
Want to keep pissing into the wind?
“You know what this propeller needs, another propeller”
You know what this 'Stang needs? Another Mustang.
Seth Jansson F-82 laughing in the distance
@@j-c4997 No...we mustn't speak of that oversized Frankenstein creation...
@Mark Grudt
It's all about the need for speed.
@Mark Grudt the original mustang had a Packard v 12 and the performance was OK.. tben rolls Royce sent them a merlin..and the p 51 became a true fighter..now its got a grown up engine.. supposedly there were 3 of these prototypes in 1945
man i love the stock ass p51D that rolls by in the background, kinda drives home how different these racing rigs are
I KNOW, when I saw that I said "now THAT'S a mustang"!!!
So sad its all gone now, Im very thankful to have been there thru the fast times.
Nah, not gone. They’ve said they’re relocating to a new airfield, but they have no intentions to stop the racing any time soon. Can’t say I blame ‘em for wanting a change of scenery. Roswell is a gorgeous area with an extensive aerospace history.
Roswell? Will they have a flying saucer category? 🙂
Yup, it's the unlimited class🤣
I have flown P51 mustangs in the past. I find that there is no other plane like the P51. Its a bat out of hell. Love it. Charles
Except a spitfire
@Ibraheem Khan after the spitfires
Or a Sea Fury?
Or the flying pancake
Defiantly a bucket list thing to do
Double prop !!!! This speed, it's crazy !!!! 440 mph ?!?!? Wooaaaaaah !!!! 😳😳😳.
I'm fan !!! 😍😍😍
More crazy is that the RAF had a twin engine bomber (De Havilland Mosquito Mk B35 apparently, with Merlin 77 engines) in 1942 that achieved 437 mph with and could cruise faster than a P51 all the way to Berlin and back.
Pity there's none in airworthy condition or any P38 Lightnings to compete if there is a class ?
That melody from those blades is impressive, I love this aircraft
Reminds me of the old Red Baron Flying Service P-51 that crashed with Steve Hinton at the controls, in 1979 at Reno. When we saw the fireball we figured he was a dead man. But he survived with a broken back, leg and ankle. they said his cockpit was almost a mile from the main wreckage.
In 1978 I saw the Red Baron P-51 in the Unlimited Race from one of the turn pylons. Amazing speed!
The red Baron plane was owned by the Browning family in Idaho falls, Idaho. They eventually went broke for all their big spending.
With the counter rotating props and that big RR Griffon engine...
cranked up my speakers and the sweet sound of forced induction V12 made me cry tears of joy!!
Love it...
Bucket list trip is the Air Races to see these magnificent beasts in action!
Man, I love the narrow sleek canopy it really works with the lines of a Mustang.
I have an unrelenting passion for prop planes, there is nothing like a low and fast prop buzzing past. That sound is like music to me.
Duane Ransom yes its the sound of freedom 🇺🇸🎉🎊
Buzzing AND roaring
That sound just says POWER. imagine flying one of those in ww2. Lol
To every Motörhead I sure hope so
PM is one of my favorite aircraft,...and OH the UNIQUE wail of that Griffon and contra-rotating props. AWESOMENESS on display.
I love this plane because it gives us a look at the last Spitfire that never was. In 1945 Supermarine developed a Spitfire with the Mustang lamina flow wing and a 2400hp Griffin engine with contra rotating props. Because it no longer had the iconic elliptical wing they renamed it the Supermarine Spiteful, only 17 were built and it never saw service as the jet age had arrived. However the power plant was used in the Shackleton bomber, I assume that is where this planes engine came from.
So now we have an idea of how the ultimate Spitfire would have performed.
The Spiteful didn't have contra rotating props, it had a single 5 bladed prop similar like that on the Hawker Sea Fury
You're thinking of the Spitfires later variants.
@@devinthierault
@Josh Jack You are both correct, all the Spitefuls built had the Sea Fury 5 blade prop but material I have read tells that this was an interim development stage and the intent was to use the still under development contra prop system.
When I saw the thumbnail i thought I was looking at a RC plane...boy was I wrong. Absolutely beautiful plane and camera work!👊
Kentucky Blugrass
Well someone did build a RC versions of the plane complete with counter rotating props.
Me too! Glad I checked it out.
Same same
RCitsverygoodOk
@@tragkfshnt Any footage of that?
The sound of the P-51 just gives me goosebumps!
That's not the original motor
@@joshlewis5065 the propulsion of the P-51 is not a motor, it's an engine.
@@skypilot49 pedantic bastard
@@skypilot49that’s not the original engine. It’s a rolls Royce Griffon, not a packard Merlin
Fantastic, very nice color of the fuselage of the Precious Metul plane!
Great takeoff then laps or tracks, maneuvering speed super video !!
your demonstration was awesome, 440,383 MPH and second pass 438,032 MPH, congratulations the pilote to all who participated in this video.
Thank you.
I have seen this video numerous times now. And the sound when this plane passes by gives me goosebumps - absolutely spectacular. Thank you for keeping these mashines going :-)
A real feat of engineering to see a 76 year old plane design still flying and viable in 2017.
the left to right to left to right head movement to stay aligned to runway for departure and landing...a work of art and patience
This sound is one of my most favorite sounds in life!
Rolls Royce make amazing engines that's for sure
"Jip." They dont make anymore. ♥️💪💪💪😃
That aircraft moves :) what a beautiful machine.
Beautiful! I had one take off right over me..i was at the end of the runway. So cool! Amazing sound and power!
The back propeller has smaller diameter than the front one has. The blades seems to be a Rotol type, but it is different. The contra porp Griffon engined Spitfire has same prop diameters, cutted blade tips, the Shackleton also has similar contra-rotating props, so this one could be camde from the FR-47 Seafire.
kolbola This particular engine was originally from a Shackleton, then it went to the Miss Budweiser sponsored hydroplane racing team from the 80’s. The prop was a stock unit that the team had custom cut to have the scalloped tips.
@@Voodoo1650 Thank you for the clarification!
Counter rotaing props on a mustang ??? Please fill me in !
***** Precious Metal uses a larger-displacement Rolls Griffon engine, like the later marques of the Spitfire. If I remember correctly, the engine and contrarotating props are from a postwar British airliner.
Thanks, I was worried there for a bit !
nagmagnet I think the same prop was used on the later naval version of Spitfire.
BlackBunik No but it was used on the Russain bear
BlackBunik These particular blades came from an Avro Shackleton bomber and then were modified by the team, but you are correct the later Mk. Spitfires did use this setup, the Mk.47 being one of them, Supernarine also used this setup on one of their last piston fighters as well (Supermarine Seafang).
This is a real beast! Beautiful and fast. How great would be to have closer view of this miracle! Thanks
Awesome plane... That doubled propeller looks absolutely CRAZY...
"DOUBLED PROPELLER"!🤣👍🏿
Очень красивый самолет!!
Респект всем участникам в создании этого шедевра авиации!!!!
Thank you!
I was on the old Red Baron team and there is nothing like the sound of the Griffon!
Wow! What a beautiful airplane and the performance is amazing. And also, Those 2 propellers spinning real fast looks kind of intimidating to me and the sound of the plane starting up also intimidating.
listen to her purr....best music I've heard on a video in a while.
I flew my P51 so much I finally wore it out.
So a friend of mine gave me his P51 - said he was not flying it much anymore....had moved on to jets.
No, not the full scale.....an RC plane.
I love the carbon clean out, lean out procedure to taxi parking cool down. What an amazing creature. 😍
Must be nice not having to stomp heavily on the rudder when the power is applied .
be a dream to take off - gun it and go!
I was going to say. Especially during takeoff.
From my understanding, gyroscopic procession and P-factor would still affect it, just torque would not be as much of an issue. Still needs more right rudder.
@@stitch2k1 Of course, but significantly less than the one you fly with a standard prop (if I assume correctly).
@@guntherachterhof4876 Oh yeah definitely. You can't full throttle a (stock) P-51 on take off from the go or you'd go off the runway. (Generally speaking we always ease power on, because more air speed means better rudder authority)
I absolutely love the sound of Mustangs 😘
P51, o Cadilac dos ares !!!! Amo este avião.
I watched that plane run @ Reno years back, scary beast.
That's one fast Mustang. It sure sounds incredible and the paint job is super.
The P-51 is the scariest prop plane ever made. It's just a beast.
Not even close of the Fw 190 D models
Beautiful P-51D love the dual prop
Qualifying time is near the current seaplane speed record set in 1935 by an S. M. 72 which also had counter rotating props
Yep, I thought so. No matter what a bunch of guys do, there's always this one guy. The guy that takes everything to a new level! That guy! In this bunch, this is that guy. Jezzz counter rotating prop on a P-51! Yeah thanks. Damn nice work.
It doesn't get any better than watching Mustangs and the old World War II Birds flying and listening to their engine.
Counterrotating props on a P51... that's pretty wild... and the sound is very interesting. thumbs up
Bloody brilliant , your so lucky in the USA to have these aircraft flying and keep them flying in perfect harmony UK fan
That was awesome! Well done and thank you for sharing.
You're gonna need BIGGER wheel chocks !! achingly beautiful aeroplane . Wales UK.
Really nice to see this old warbird turned into a speed machine.
I saw P51 in fly! But this modernized P51 with speed 800 km/h! Incredible!!! I must buy it!!
Beautiful ,absolutely beautiful. Love the counter rotating props so no torque problems. I always wondered how the p51d would look if developed further. ( There was a design in the 80's that used small jets to boost speed but it was dropped) .p51 d has always been my " pin up" of ww2 fighters. Poetry in motion. Best regards.
The next day an AT6 arrived. 2 seat trainer as some may know. We did hammer stalls and a couple loops, no problem. Such amazing power power
running rough a little plugs or magneto , great sound great conversion , very intrieging contra -rotate props
I was at the 1999 Air races when Miss Ashley II crashed on Saturday. She was a beautiful aircraft which was highly modified with Contra-rotating props and a Griffon engine. She had learjet wings. Cause of crash was the rear stabilizer (somewhat similar to the Ghost crash) came off and torque tore off the wings and the fuselage landed on an unoccupied Winnebago in an eastern community. Pilot never stood a chance.
What a truly amazing looking plane.
Even radically modified, the p-51 is the most beautiful airplane ever made. Side note: did the counter rotating props increase the top speed at low altitude? And were they variable pitch?
Great video, good info that I didn't know and more to the point, Awesome Griffon sound! Thanks.
The Tu-95 Bear uses counter rotating props and I didn't know why that plane used CR props until I asked around which makes sense now....CR props are cool to see
What a beautiful masterpiece!
Worked on the mustang over five years during my military service
Nothing better
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🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Griffon with Coaxial props...amazing
Has an Avro Shackleton RR Gryphon engine and contra-rotating props, just gorgeous
It's a beautiful plane,sounds awesome...😎
luvly one of the most beautiful planes i have ever seen.
Going 700+kph is an all time high!
not really
Is a very fine piece of technology with the modifications involved in the desing, but i prefer an original P-51D fighter plane, even today. She was a fantastic aircraft, with the Packard-Merlin engine and her frame line original, sorry my bad english, and greetings from Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina.
Your English is fine, your courtesy is appreciated
Totally cool machine. 440 mph average. Damn that’s quick !!
The last production F4 Corsair could hit 440.
for unlimited, not really
Counter rotating props also help to reduce what is known as the "P" effect as well when flying. That is the technical term to when a prop produces so much torque that it will make turning, taxing and taking off with the aircraft harder on one side than the other. As developers started to produce engines that produced more torque, the "P" effect really started to become a hindrance. So much so that you either needed special training in how to counter this effect, or something like a counter-rotating prop. Look at the Russian T-95 "Bear" Extremely powerful turboprops, with counter rotating propellers
After about four hours flying I have my own "P" effect that no amount of right rudder will solve. I usually bring an empty oil can, 10/30 would do,
Those contra-props give it a distinct sound.
Trying to come out of a high altitude power dive with that monster would be 'interesting'. A beautiful aircraft. Does it have an original Rolls-Royce engine from the period? Note: I read down further and got the answer to the engine question. Until they were fitted with all those horses, it's amazing how the U.S. thought it had limited use. Refitted with the RR, and with the addition of extra tanks for further range, it became the perfect escort fighter for long range bombing runs. One of the top fighters of the war.
A beautiful fighter, very interesting with the twin rotation prop’s
I think you're talking about the contra-rotating propellers, those were used on bomber aircraft like the Avro Shackleton.
I maxed my audio volume to listen to this magnificent bird whir past. Outstanding!
That is an awesome looking and sounding Mustang. I would to visit Reno to see this
If this thing can do 700kph on the deck, what can it do at Altitude? they had planes with similar power doing 750Kph+ ready for war at alt, this thing is surely lighter due to weapons and radio gear removal/modernisation and more aerodynamic due to cockpit changes?
Wow, what a beautiful and magnificent aircraft.
All racing is pushing the envelope, what is/are the limiting factor(s) here? Is it turning the plane as fast as you can without it breaking? Is it g-force limit? Is it having the most powerful engine? Best aerodynamics?
Damn! Contra-rotating propellers? I have to wonder, aside from maintenance issues, how this would have affected the original P--51s performance in wartime use? It must be a wonderful feeling not to have to worry about how all that torque would affect your flight dynamics.
They built one at Wright Paterson AFB during WWII. Just one... they had insurmountable issues with the prop gearbox. Technology was not quite there yet. My uncle was an engineer there at the time.
The p 51 was an ok aircraft but the engine was ok.. but she needed more. So the raf sent over a few Merlin engines.. and the rest...well
@@richardoakley8800, You nailed the primary reason the P-51 became the legendary fighter it was. The Allison V1710 engine that equipped the P-40 was not adequate for high-altitude work where the bombers they were supposed to escort flew. When one of the test pilots for Rolls Royce strongly suggested that their Merlin engines would be much superior, he was right. It didn't take long for everyone else to come around to his point of view. The Merlin was a heavier engine than the V1710. So to maintain the proper center-of-gravity, North American engineers added a large additional fuel tank behind the pilot, greatly increasing the Mustang's range on internal fuel. Throw on some drop-tanks and the Allies found the long-range fighter they had been looking for! The Roll Royce Merlin was, as Jay Leno put it in his video on the Merlin (ua-cam.com/video/GYcKdK7hmEo/v-deo.html), "The engine that won World War II."
that p51 has a great sound you gotta love it
I like the counter rotaing props, imo it makes aircraft unique. its prob why i like the Tu-95 and the Ka-52
Contra.
Love the sound, got my headphones cranked, totally
I love precious metal to death. It's my favourite Mustang, and the only in the world with contra-rotational props.
Griffon Power! A beast of a Rolls Royce!
That the Rolls Royce griffon isn't it?
Dryootube P-51s had Merlin engines.
This isn't a legacy aircraft. it was custom built for racing with P51 parts that were going to a grave yard and it indeed does have a griffon in it.
Yes, sounds indeed more like griffon V12. And there were actually griffons with contra rotating propellers.
Yes it is.
Royal navy Seafire engine
Still making power very impressive 💪 the pilot is pretty good too. Like the color scheme !! 👍
Wow, I never knew the P-51 could be configured for a counter rotating duo prop.
Complete Griffon install from firewall forward, probably from a late Spitfire or similar British plane.
I'm just a blues guitar player who likes to get me breath taken away
by the baddest ass racing plane Reno's ever seen. Thanx for a perfectly done
video. ...and cheers
That engine sounded smooth as silk !!
Griffon engine and contra-rotating prop, what more can a man want? This, imo, is the perfect P51
That’s one sweet looking machine!
With the introduction of the Griffon, R-R changed the firing order from that used in the Merlin.
Quote from Wiki:
"Merlin firing order: 1A, 6B, 4A, 3B, 2A, 5B, 6A, 1B, 3A, 4B, 5A, 2B ('A' being the right bank as viewed from the rear of the engine)
Griffon firing order: 1A, 4B, 3A, 2B, 5A, 1B, 6A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 2A, 6B (changed from the Merlin to reduce stress on the crankshaft)"
The Merlin has a musical hum that gives you goosebumps and makes your hair stand on end.. IMHO the Griffon doesn't sound quite as smooth.
I think the Griffon has the same firing order as the Allison. The Merlin sounds more aggressive to me, like it's got radical cams out of a hot rod. But there's no replacement for displacement, and 2240 cubes beats 1650 any day of the week.
I was at the races that year. So it wasn't the fastest, but god damn it was one of the best sounding!Just another reason I love living a few miles from the Stead airport, and in such a quiet neighborhood. Except of course in the couple weeks around race time. I don't think anyone minds the extra noise.
Shades of the old Steve Hinton piloted Red Barron of the 1970s. They are magnificent aircraft flown by great pilots. Cheers!
There was a third Griffon powered racer at Reno in the past that no one has mentioned - Miss Ashley II. Built from the ground up as a racer and not from a P51 airframe, although it looked like a P51. Lear Jet wings and horizontal tail, Cessna main gears. It was a beautiful racer, and unfortunately, never got to see its true potential, because it broke up during a race at Reno in 1999, apparently due to tail flutter.
Contra-rotating propellers were not used on WW.II combat P-51 Mustangs. "Precious Metal" is a special, experimental category, air racer modification of the P-51,
they did use contra rotating props in ww2...the sea fire fr47
No shit
no shit brian
Team pulled the Merlin out, moved the firewall back some 2ft to make room for the Griffon engine, which I understand came from an Avro Shackleton bomber. Certainly a fine looking aircraft, but it should have been left original, imho!!
So friggin what man.
はじめて
リオのエアレースを知ってから
この機体は好きです!!。
Precious Meatl !!!!!!
二重反転プロペラや
造りこみ!!
凄い!
憧れます!!!!!!!
こんな風にマシンを造りこみたいです!!。
There is a supply of Griffon engines left from the Avro Shackleton maritime patrol aircraft. most probably came out of one of those.
They used the Shackleton quite long.
❤❤❤❤❤ Georg from Europe , Prag Love....
Thenks :-) Geog
Interesting. The Italian seaplane with floats, the Macchi Castoldi MC72 set a record of 440 in the 30's. Had contra rotating props. But that was in a straight line. Wonder how much speed it costs to go in a circuit. Anyone know?
Quite a bit, maybe 20%.
Oh my, what a sound that Griffon makes, and beautiful propellers too. In a Shackleton it was horrendous, but as a single... Fantastic. Now, anyone out there have a Napier Sabre engine for a P51?
Stunning aircraft!
I really like the vegetable slicer on the front, cool! How many carrots per minute . . . .