1. Amazing features, the embroidery features are awesome and the large space to quilt would be fabulous. 2. However, too large and heavy for me. I like to move my machines around. 3. Way too expensive for me. I can safely say I would never spend $23,000 dollars for a sewing machine. That's a lot of fabric, notions, patterns, etc.
I truly enjoy enjoy your videos! I am not a sewing machine dealer, not a technician, or any sort of sewing professional. I just like sewing machines and I like to sew.
Fantastic Review. I have a Babylock Solaris 3 and I was wondering about the Bernina 990 but it doesnt do all the things I can currently do on the Babylock. Really appreciate that you gave pros and cons.
I agree 10000% with everything you said here. And despite of owning several Bernina machines (including a B830LE) that are workhorses, Bernina is, for me, always behind of other brands like Brother/Babylock, PFAFF/Viking, Janome, etc- WiFi, Automatic Threader, Camera, etc. Also, some of the accessories they add to their line are also behind, or do not exist like that embellishment attachment that PFAFF and VIKING have that allows to add sequins, beads, ribbons or yarn to your designs, or the borderless/endless hoops also from PFAFF/Viking. What I like from this machine is that they changed that clumsy upper thread loading system from the B8xx series the really friendly standard one on the B790. What I would had liked was to also load that bobbin from the top, not the front, but it also is way easier than that of the B8xx series, and the user interface is a lot better than my B830LE. And those are just some of the things I feel totally dissatisfied with the B990, and for 23K, is too much for me. The Bernina E16 PRO added the Coloreel capability, and is a 16K Industrial-grade Multi-needle machine, why not the B990? By the way, the only Bernina machines made in Switzerland are the B8xx series and the B990. The rest are only designed there, but made in Asia under strict Bernina Supervision, or in the case of the Multi-needle ones, made in the USA by Melco. I really expected more from Bernina...........
Are we sure this machine is made in Switzerland? Yes, designed there, but it says "Swiss Engineering" on it, so possibly assembled in Switzerland, but does not meet the criteria to say Made in Switzerland. Presumably too many foreign parts. How about a concrete response from Bernina as to where it is assembled?
Speaking of the E16 multi-needle, actually made by Melco, it is my understanding the production was relocated offshore, i.e. no longer made in the U.S. My advice, if one is considering a multi-needle, look at Tajima or Barudan.
That is great! Does it say Made in Switzerland on it, or Swiss Engineering? Switzerland has very strict regulations regarding how many foreign parts are used, which can disqualify the "Made in Switzerland" designation. A bit fuzzy in the video, but it appears it did not earn the coveted Made in Switzerland.
The overall design strikes me as being inspired by the Janome Continental M7/M8 machine. You are right - these machines are getting so big pretty soon you'll need dining room table just to sit it on!
I noticed a couple of inaccuracies. Bernina’s have had the ability to change thread colors in embroidery for many years. It is not a new feature. And the 8 series machines that have been around for more than a decade as well as the 790 Pro have automatic threaders. Warranties have also read like mumbo jumbo for any machine but my experience with my Bernina repairs has been that warranted parts are replaced without a hassle and often without my knowing they were still under warranty. The price is in line with other top of the line sewing machines and will undoubtedly fall as time goes on. My opinion is that if someone wants it and can afford it, they should not be shamed for spending their money.
Users have always been able to change thread colors. However, they have never been able to pull up the entire catalogue of thread from Mettler and import a thread color on screen. Also, older models had a semi automatic needle threader where you still needed to pull down the thing to thread the machine. These new machine are fully automatic where you don't need to use your hands at all. Thanks for watching.
@@ThimbleBookunderstood. Bernina 830s and 880s have fully automatic threaders similar to the 990 which require no hands. Also very similar to the 790 Pro.
Enjoyed the review. I purchased the 990. It will be a perfect companion to my Brother Luminaire 3. I currently own a Bernina 790+. Bernina has needed to update their machines. Trust me when I say all these top of the line machines deliver . But each has features that are unique. And they weigh a ton!!!
Hi Linda. I am in the same position as you were, in having a Luminaire3, and am considering purchasing a B990. To me it feels more of a quilting machine, where as the Luminaire and the new Aveneer feels more of an embroidery machine. I love my Luminaire3 but not sure the Aveneer is going to be a great step up as i am more of a quilter and general sewer. Are you happy with your B990? Can you morph new quilting designs that you bring into the machine, just like the quilting designs that are built into the machine? I love how you can make stitches bigger and smaller and how good is the jumbo stitch? And how wonderful to use the screen just like a tablet- no more having to use tools/editfunctions to move and change designs for every step. Also, how is the tension on the machine after morphing stitches and embroiderys. My luminairehas amazing tension on any threads i have used, including 100wt in top and bobbin. Thank you in advance for answering my million questions. Would love to hear back from you. ❤🧵🪡
I wanted to comment about the 'target' age group of the machine and using technology. I'm 67 years old and love using new features. Navigating should be easy. If people are having trouble navigating, it's the program not the user. I know you didn't mean to be offensive but please get over that idea that older people are not good at using technology. It has nothing to do with age.
@@RuthPoupon Im not talking about all seniors, just the ones who the statement applies to. The lady who taught me how to use the 790 is 82 years young. Thanks for watching.
I have preordered one in the UK, we pay less here though. I still work full time, have a B830 which I use for quilting and embroidery. The BISR is a huge improvement on the BSR which was a Bernina innovation and is now out of patent so is being put on the Brother Aveneer and Janome top end machine. I prefer the solid feel of the Bernina, the user interface is better in my view, very intuitive when I was test driving it yesterday. The position of the screen is better than on the Brother machines in my view, I have a brother XV which is good but I still prefer the 830.
Thank you for another great video. I have a Bernina 570 and 770 and love them both. I have no desire to buy the 990. I completely agree with you that what Bernina is calling new and innovative are things that other brands have had for several years. Honestly, I feel that this machine is somewhat of a disappointment.
I also love my 570QE. They basically strapped an iPad to a sewing machine and called it a day. I wish they just released an app and a way to connect phone/tablet to existing sewing machine to have it as second screen or run advanced features on it. I use their 570QE simulator on PC and it's very handy. Price is ridiculous. It should at least have a UA-cam player to be able to watch all those sewing tutorials :D
When I finally saw ads for this machine my thoughts were, finally what others have been offering for years. And I already own two Berninis, B440QE and B570QEE so I do love Bernina. I have a long arm so I don't need that long harp for quilting. Now for embroidery? Yes. But not at $22K. I can buy a multineedle embroidery machine for a lot less instead. It is a beautiful machine. If I won the big lottery I would buy one. But do I need it? No.Technically I don't need everything the two I already own can do.
Great review! I am retired and can quilt/embroider all day, and I can't justify the price! The best feature for me is actually the built-in BSR. I can't use templates on my 770QE Plus with the BSR adaptor. As you stated, many of the other "new" features have been on other brands for quite some time. Even if I had the money (which I don't), I would be hesitant to buy the first edition of a model. Glitches and bugs always seem to be found, and then people need to do upgrades.
I agree- even if I was to be considering buying this (no can do) I'd wait at least a year. Also, as for the BSR, check out Bernina Jeff- he has a set up for sale that has table that you can fit with your BSR underneath- pretty innovative and a heck of a lot less expensive.
I agree patent protection is the reason Bernina didnt have auto needle threaders. I think Bernina was hung up on their icons without text to make it easier for themselves. I have struggled knowing what the icons mean . Not to the tune of 22k. I like to purchase used Berninas. I just got a B790 Plus one year old with SDT embroidery module for 3500. It only has a million stitches. They do not keep their value so buy used
This was a refreshing video or review of the B990. Actually the only one I have seen so far that shows the pros & cons. You made some very good points (and common sense) of buying and actually using this new Bernina. I was also impressed with your description of the warranty, which is not that great, considering the cost of this machine and all the electronic features it has. (so many things could go wrong) Personally I would never buy a new on the market machine the very first year. Thank you so much for doing this video. I can't wait to see your review of the new Babylock & Brother machines that are debuting in Aug. Sept.
I love this machine and had a one to one demo of it a couple of weeks ago. However one small disappointment is that it doesn't't have a 1/4" foot included....which is crucial for patch working quilt tops! At £13k you would have thought they would have included that small but important foot!, after all it is targeted at quilters as well as dressmakers and embroiderers.
I am turning 65 this year and I will be buying one at some point. I really don't need the BSR since I have a Q20, but everything else is what I have been waiting for. Embroidery placement is now so easy.
Love your reviews and this one in particular. I own 2 Bernina machines and L890 overlocker/serger and a 790 QE, Crystal Edition. This too has the BSR, which I love. I also have a Viking Epic 2, which has WiFi and a laser. The machines I have are a struggle to take to classes. I've often thought of buying a smaller machine due to transportability. Now, I love all my machines and I use them for different things. My Epic 2, which never needs oiling and it automatically updates (love that too!) is the best for piecing! My 1/4" seams are perfect. Oh yes, and it has a laser which I often use. My Bernina is what I use for FMQ. Will I buy the new 990?? No. I have all the features I want and need and more on my machine, both which have embroidery units and embroider beautifully. For me it's not worth the $ but for someone who sews daily... that's different. Your reviews are refreshing and help us understand the pros and cons before we set on a journey for a new sewing machine. Thank you for all you do to bring us your always informative views and opinions. And no one should ever get mad at you. Honestly, a sewing machine is a very subjective item. The beauty is we as quilters and sewists have so many options available to us. There is no right or wrong machine. It's what the user prefers! Great info!
I usually purchase the top of the line sewing machine in any brand because it gives the best stitch. I would want to buy the Bernina 990 for the precision of the straight stitch and the ability to stitch any and all fabrics. To me, the features on any high end sewing machines are secondary to the stitching capability. Additionally, the bobbin located below the stitching platform is a plus, not only for the ability to change bobbins while not having to remove your work to do so, but any sewing machine technician will tell you that this type of bobbin gives a more precise stitch. All the industrial and straight stitch sewing machines have this type of bobbin assembly.
I know for my brother machine, if I got it serviced anywhere besides the brother dealer it voids the warranty...warranties are a scam anyway because of the hoops they make you jump through
I couldn't resist to say "Amen Sister!!" Why do people waste their energy on being negative instead to trying to do something positive with the energy they have to offer.
Very nice balanced review! I appreciate this very much! My only suggestion would be to strongly recommend that anyone considering this machine be sure the dealer and repair is reasonably close by and to visit and try out the machine before buying as well as evaluate the teaching and support available! Thanks again and I am subscribing to see more of your content❤ :-)
I love your content and I was hoping you would do a review on this new machine. I have the Janome M17 and I love it. I paid 12K and it came with a custom-made cabinet that retails for 6k, so I got a really good deal. The one I got was a floor model. I have always wanted a Bernina. The thing that keeps me from buying on is the comments about Berninas being temperamental. I can’t afford the risk of getting a lemon. You rarely hear that happening with Janome machines. I would love the camera feature and the jumbo stitch. The M17 has a lot of features I thought I would never use, but I use them and it’s been a great experience. With the Dime Monster hoop, edge-to-edge quilting is so easy. I can’t wait to see what the new Brother machine will have to offer. I will never buy Brother, I think their quality is low grade.
The Bernina 8 series can be temperamental if you move too quickly when threading. This machine has the Bernina 4/5/7/9 hook system that is more user friendly, especially if, like me, you tend to thread quickly. I have the 5 series with that hook system and it has only messed up when I threaded with the presser foot up.
It is nice that Bernina finally caught up with the rest of the machine embroidery world, implementing camera, laser, and auto threading on this new machine. But so far, the only feature I see that I don't already have on my top-of-the-line Brother is a big screen. And it didn't set me back $22,990 before taxes!! But IF I win the lottery................I would buy it now, with all those features!
I have an old bernina (50 years now) from my mom. She gat it when she was married to my dad. It still works because of that High production quality from Switzerland. Bernina is not Chinese sewing machines that break down after a year. It is true that the machines are expensive, but their machines will last. This machine will probably work long after I'm dead
Thanks for this video, you forget to tell about a new feature that I think this machine is the only one to have, it's the possibility to use a mouse instead of using fingers or stylus to use the screen. You can absolutely do everything with the mouse. There is a slot to the right side of the machine to install a dongle for cordless mouse, and it's like you are in front of your computer ! Aside from that, it's true that the automatic pressure foot is not new, I have it on my old brother 1800NV, the automatic threader too, and so many things that other brands have since long time. But I own a 790+ and will stay with it. For information, in France, the cost of this machine is about 15000 euros.
I don’t understand why they don’t put a bobbin sensor on the 5 mm width machines (475, 535 etc). You lose a lot of features when you don’t have the 9 mm width. The extra built in stitches aren’t something that a piecer/quilter will use. I also hated losing the even feed foot when I moved from the 570 to the 535. I was hoping they would address these issues, and was disappointed that they didn’t. I downgraded from the 570 to the 535 due to stitch quality issues on the 9 mm machine for piecing.
Thanks for posting. Its a beautiful machine but not for me. The price and weight are good to know now. I would love to see one in action, but would never buy one. I wish everyone well! Keep sewing! Thanks again for posting.
Great video as usual. The 990 can easily take the place of a longarm, so you can do your own quilting. I believe that is the point of the bigness. I would've liked that, but i have both long arm and sewing machine. And if I had the 990, I would still have to baste the quilt first! so I like what I have. ❤ thank you
I'm a Husqvarna Viking/Pfaff person myself. The one Bernina feature I wish we had is the stitch regulator system. I know many gasp at the price of these machines, but you have to take into account the amount of research, development, testing, and expensive technology that goes into them. I mean, they're equipped with a legitimate touchscreen tablet, for starters. Programmers have to be paid for developing those interfacings and functions. The amount of precision required by the machines is high. You're also paying for conveniences that can really aid in creating beautiful pieces. Again, the fact that folks had to research, develop, and install a camera on this machine is not a cheap feat. But i get it. They're the price of a car and will probably last just as long. Just remember this difference. The car may transport you to a memorable moment. The machine will help you create one you can actually hold in your hand.
I'M SORRY I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT A LIFE INSURANCE POLICY TO PAY MACHINE TO PAY FOR IT I AM 72 NOW BUT THIS IS MY PASSION I LOVE THE EMBROIDERY MACHINE AND NEVER QUILTED IN MY LIFE I LOVE PLAYING AROUND WITH EMBROIDERY I GO TO CLASS EVERY MONTH
Very interesting review. You named all the things that I would like about a fancy machine as well as some drawbacks that I would consider major such as having to ship that big lug to be serviced. Fortunately, I have a Bernina dealer not far from home. For many others, this would be a huge issue. That said, the cost of machines is getting phenomenally high. I know that most people can get a loan to obtain their dream machine whatever that might be. Most of these high end machines are pretty well beyond my budget and I hardly consider myself to be poor. I also wonder something else that I haven't seen anywhere and that is the human component. Having to think through and design your quilt or embroidery project is only part of it. Having more non-automatic processes incorporated into a piece whether a clothing article or a quilt does make it less than perfect; it adds that human touch. My example is would you rather have a set of china with handpainted flowers or a set of perfectly executed dinnerware done by machine. This points out the value of the artistic side, the human side of any item created and is the charm of handmade items whether quilts, clothing or plates for the table. Or take embroidery for example. It's so nice to have a hand embroidered item. It does take time but that item is far more cherished than a machine embroidered item from the store. I understand that some items a person wouldn't want to spend the time on hand embroidering like dish towels that are kitchen workhorses but what about items that would be passed down for generations like baptismal clothes. Granted, not everyone is talented with a needle in hand so machine embroidery is a great option. I also wonder about the loss of sewing techniques done by machine. Not so many years back, there were loads of books on fabric manipulation to produce wonderful textures to be used in anything from blouses to coats. Or great things that can be done with threads and different types of needles in the machine. For those who can only afford a basic or just above that level of machine, I encourage you all to search out all the wonderful ways sewing can be enhanced and enjoyed even if all you have is a machine from a department store or even an old treadle (which are great, BTW. Power outage doesn't stop me. LOL). In short, look past the razz'e-dazzle of high end machines (yep, they're fun) but push into new territory with what you already have. There is so much more to have fun with and learn even for an old dog like me.
When you go to quilting shows, an increasing amount of quilts have been quilted using a large hoop on a computerized embroidery machine. It takes no skill to save a design to a thumb drive, hoop the design, and hit start. But, it takes actual talent to free motion quilt on a manual sewing machine. The skill is being lost to automation. But, at some point, there will be push back.
I loved your no-nonsense and very down-to-earth review of this machine that I've been lusting over for a hot minute since those emails and videos from Bernina started showing up in my in-box. It's a totally different thing to talk to a Bernina dealer freshly returned from Bernina University about the new 990 machine, or to talk to someone who is 100% gung ho and has already put down a deposit to get one even though they have not actually seen one in person, let alone had a chance to test sew on it. Yes, the machine not fitting into my brand new Koala cabinet that I just got 2 months ago is a big deal. Yes the camera and scanning features are cool, but honestly -- the only thing I ever embroider is little quilt labels so me thinking I'm going to suddenly start scanning and digitizing and doing giant embroideries in the new giant hoop is like me thinking that if only I spent $23K on home gym equipment I would suddenly transform into a person who wakes up at 5 AM every day to work out (not!). Because, like you said, just because a machine has fancy bells and whistles, I can think they are cool features but I'm still not going to use them if I don't do that kind of sewing. So now reading through the comments on your review of the 990, I'm wondering whether it would be better for me to be on the lookout for opportunities to buy a secondhand Bernina 790 Pro machine from someone who is upgrading to the new 990? I'm off to look for whether you did a review on that machine when it came out. Thanks!
Yes, if your not going to magically start doing large embroideries, it would be an awesome idea to get a pre owned 790. Also, you might want to check with some local dealers to see if they got any on trade in. I do have a 790 video on this channel. Thanks for watching.
We have heard zero regarding the internals. Bernina has in the past, with the exception of the Q-Series, used sintered bushing bearings, which are archaic. Hopefully they incorporated sealed ball bearings, but not getting my hopes up. Also, the motor. Brush type motors are a thing of the past, so did they use a stepper/servo motor? It appears not. They used the Bernina Hook bobbin system. Very disappointing this area was not greatly improved, especially for the price. The stitch length/width knobs are still very vulnerable to damage. So, in summary, the computer side of the machine is greatly improved, but apparently not the mechanics. Last, but not least, it will not fit many of our existing cabinets. Sorry to be so negative, but was hoping for more, so sticking with our 880+.
Thanks for a great review. I have been sewing for well over 50 years and a die hard Bernina lover. I am not that impressed with the new 990, it seems that they could have done a lot more to fall more in line with the other TOL sewing machines. I have a 770 and 570 machines which I love and I cannot see ever needing anything more than what I have
The Bernina 990 is very beautiful, but it looks like some of the other brands. I will not ever be able to afford one, so I don’t consider it a contender. I have owned Bernina for almost 30 years and love the quality. Although my 1630 is old (bout hit new in 96) it still works. Not quite as well as when it was new, but did not expect it to! I bought a B530 when it was being discontinued. I bought the floor model and saved a ton. I find it does everything I need -main reason to buy was to use the BSR to quilt. I prefer having my sewing machine separate from my embroidery machine so that I can sew while embroidering something else. This new machine is amazing, but I honestly thought it would be more distinctive. Many will likely buy it, but with the economy like this, I am not sure this price will appeal to as many.
I’ve had a Bernina 217 (industrial) 1530, 930, 950 (semi industrial), 770 QE, 475QE Kaffe Edition and Bernina Q20 Longarm. Their mechanical 930/950 machines are great. The 1530 screen faded so I couldn’t use it. 217 is good for heavy factory work. I occasionally use the 770 QE mainly for straightline quilting, buttonholes. and I’ve used the 475 for a couple of weeks and regret buying it. My favorite machine is a Juki J-150 Industrial, 2600st/min and 2nd, mechanical Juki TL2200 QVP, 1500st/min. Both straight stitch and fast. I don’t think I’d buy another Bernina especially this expensive one which has way too many bells and whistles for me. I just want to sew on a machine that’s solid and dependable. If anything I’d rather it do my dishes and laundry so I can have more time to sew.
I think your assessment of this machine is terrific, thank you for such a detailed report on it. However, it's pretty irrelevant for me, as who the eff is spending $23,000 USD on a sewing/embroidery machine? That's a car. There's something very tone deaf about this price point. Most designers and repair/adjustment professionals seem to use semi-industrial, or industrial straight stitch only for a great deal of their sewing, with maybe a serger for knits? An industrial is usually under $1000, let's say, the Juki DDL 8700, which is $850, 3.6% of the cost of the 990. Let's add in a serger for $500, and now you're still talking less than 6% of the cost of the 990. It's just kind of odd that the professionals don't go for this kind of thing, but Bernina is out there selling them as if they are the answer to every sewer's dream. Yes, embroidery is a whole industry on its own. The average commercial embroidery machine is about $6000. If you add that in, you're at $7350, or still less than a third of $23,000. So the question of to whom they are marketing this remains unanswered. It reminds me of Charmin's gigantic toilet rolls, you only need to change the roll once a month or so, great deal, right? It actually costs almost 3 times the amount of their mega rolls. The emperor is wearing no clothes, folks.
You make a good point. Not everyone is interested in using the embroidery module. So, it would be a good idea to make it an option instead of a requirement.
This sewing machine is too big for my use. I need to be able to pick up and move things around on my own and these larger sewing machines are just not portable enough for my liking. My complaint is that it is not “pretty”. I like the machines with some color like my Pfaff 7550 which I purchased new in the 1990’s.
I have several sergers on the same table as my sewing machine plus little drawer type things. I have a “L” table configuration with a second long skinny table on wheels that slides partially under the primary work surface. My Brother ULT embroidery machine sits on that. No way can I have one ginormous machine taking up real estate.
Someday, if I get a different residence with a larger sewing room, I would absolutely enjoy have one of these larger Bernina machines with a dedicated table to leave it on. To me even the B770 is too big and heavy.
If she owns this machine, she ain't using Miss Clairol! he he he All the sewers I know that purchase this level, expensive machine are so very much younger (decades) than me, esp in the USA. They have jobs and take out loans to pay for them. That is my experience. Who else owns this type of machine? Sewers who bought TOLs when they weren't so expensive and traded them in every few years to upgrade. This is what I have done. If I were to trade in my Epic 2 for this machine, it would cost me around 3000 euro and not 15,000 euro the cost in Europe. That makes them affordable. The demographic is the sewer who has the TOL machine, hooked on all the bells and whistles and can't live without the newest upgrade, not age.
3000 is a pretty good deal on trade in if you want all bells and whistles. For us across the pond, it might be well worth it to get the machine in Europe and fly it back home :-) Thanks for watching.
sorry i am poor person it would take me 6 year's to pay with my trade in of my 880 emb. machine so I WOULD HAVE TO BUY NEW BOBBINS BECAUSE THE NEW MACHINE TAKES A LARGE BOBBIN
I'm just now seeing this review, and I think that it's spot-on. I think you're right in your assessment of who Berninas' target customer is. Older with disposable income. And not just any sewist, but a quilter. That's key, because quilters spend the most money of any consumers in the home sewing industry. So of course they'd build a machine that caters to them. I've heard that these machines are really popular with that demographic. Good for Bernina. Now as to the other thing that you stated about this machine that I find really accurate, and seeing how different manufacturers are debuting new TOL machines, I think what you said applies across the board: "A lot of people get caught up in the features of a new machine, and don't really take the time to consider if the machine is actually for them." Amen to that. When this machine made it's debut, I'll admit that I was drooling. That is, until I did a run-down of how much the payments per month would be, and for how many years until it would officially be mine. And not mine and the banks'. That plus the fact that although it has all kinds of neat stuff in it, what gave me the most pause...well the price did that, but still...was the fact that I'm not a quilter. I'm a garment sewist. Really, all I need are two stitches : straight and zig-zag. All those thousands of other things that the machine can do are mind and pocketbook blowing, but honestly? I wouldn't be using them much, if at all. I've longed for a Bernina for decades, and quite a few years ago now, got one (Artista 730e) from a Craigslist seller. She sold it to me for a song. Four hundred dollars, to be exact, and it was the best money I've spent on sewing products, hands down. I'm in the market for another (the 730 has issues) USED machine. For those that want all the bells and whistles, I think it's great. For others, I'd encourage (whether this or any TOL model) to really think about what one needs out of a machine, the cost and go from there. '
I really wish there was a nicer machine for us garment makers with great lighting, a narrow free arm, metal construction, and few stitches on it. Thanks for watching.
@@ThimbleBook You probably are describing a Juki industrial. Except for the narrow free arm, that is. Which brings me to my point. I figured that if I were to purchase a new machine, it would be an industrial. I've become spoiled by having the luxury of computer technology stuffed in a sewing machine and don't want to do without it. Plus a zig-zag stitch for making buttonholes. Went looking for such an industrial, and found that there isn't one (to my knowledge) that has everything I'd want. A compromise would be that I'd have to go for a machine that isn't computerized (they exist, but the computer is for mass production applications) and only does a straight-stitch. So. Back to the used Bernina search for me. Probably just as well. The industrials need a dedicated table base and might need a separate motor, depending.
I had to stop watching after the comment about the accents. You previously made an ageist statement. Really? Most of the people I know that can afford a machine of this expense tend to be a bit older. Wow. You need a reality check.
Won't be buying. Too expensive and not a nice looking machine. I have a babylock ellisimo and Bernina 830LE and between them both I have what I want. These machines are too heavy to take anywhere so you would still need another to take to classes or even take to the cottage.
Computers went from being the size of a guest bedroom to fitting in a pocket. So, I don't understand why sewing machines are getting bigger instead of becoming smaller with advances in technology. Thanks for watching.
Older demograpic? Yikes. I'm a babyboomer who traded in her TOL 880+ for the Husqvarna Epic 2 because Bernina is behind in technology. The Epic 2 which has now been replaced by the Epic 3 My Epic 2 sews and embroiders rings around the Bernina TOLs including the 990. You obviously do not quilt, or sew larger projects, yes throat space, bigger is better. I stopped the video midway.
Thanks for watching. What are your first thoughts about the B990?
1. Amazing features, the embroidery features are awesome and the large space to quilt would be fabulous.
2. However, too large and heavy for me. I like to move my machines around.
3. Way too expensive for me. I can safely say I would never spend $23,000 dollars for a sewing machine. That's a lot of fabric, notions, patterns, etc.
I truly enjoy enjoy your videos! I am not a sewing machine dealer, not a technician, or any sort of sewing professional. I just like sewing machines and I like to sew.
Awesome. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic Review. I have a Babylock Solaris 3 and I was wondering about the Bernina 990 but it doesnt do all the things I can currently do on the Babylock. Really appreciate that you gave pros and cons.
I agree 10000% with everything you said here. And despite of owning several Bernina machines (including a B830LE) that are workhorses, Bernina is, for me, always behind of other brands like Brother/Babylock, PFAFF/Viking, Janome, etc- WiFi, Automatic Threader, Camera, etc. Also, some of the accessories they add to their line are also behind, or do not exist like that embellishment attachment that PFAFF and VIKING have that allows to add sequins, beads, ribbons or yarn to your designs, or the borderless/endless hoops also from PFAFF/Viking. What I like from this machine is that they changed that clumsy upper thread loading system from the B8xx series the really friendly standard one on the B790. What I would had liked was to also load that bobbin from the top, not the front, but it also is way easier than that of the B8xx series, and the user interface is a lot better than my B830LE. And those are just some of the things I feel totally dissatisfied with the B990, and for 23K, is too much for me. The Bernina E16 PRO added the Coloreel capability, and is a 16K Industrial-grade Multi-needle machine, why not the B990? By the way, the only Bernina machines made in Switzerland are the B8xx series and the B990. The rest are only designed there, but made in Asia under strict Bernina Supervision, or in the case of the Multi-needle ones, made in the USA by Melco. I really expected more from Bernina...........
Are we sure this machine is made in Switzerland? Yes, designed there, but it says "Swiss Engineering" on it, so possibly assembled in Switzerland, but does not meet the criteria to say Made in Switzerland. Presumably too many foreign parts. How about a concrete response from Bernina as to where it is assembled?
Speaking of the E16 multi-needle, actually made by Melco, it is my understanding the production was relocated offshore, i.e. no longer made in the U.S. My advice, if one is considering a multi-needle, look at Tajima or Barudan.
@@jamesemanner9671 Yes, it is definitely made in Switzerland atm. That was confirmed by the Bernina rep with me.
That is great! Does it say Made in Switzerland on it, or Swiss Engineering? Switzerland has very strict regulations regarding how many foreign parts are used, which can disqualify the "Made in Switzerland" designation. A bit fuzzy in the video, but it appears it did not earn the coveted Made in Switzerland.
The overall design strikes me as being inspired by the Janome Continental M7/M8 machine. You are right - these machines are getting so big pretty soon you'll need dining room table just to sit it on!
Your review was so good, I had to listen twice. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I noticed a couple of inaccuracies. Bernina’s have had the ability to change thread colors in embroidery for many years. It is not a new feature. And the 8 series machines that have been around for more than a decade as well as the 790 Pro have automatic threaders. Warranties have also read like mumbo jumbo for any machine but my experience with my Bernina repairs has been that warranted parts are replaced without a hassle and often without my knowing they were still under warranty. The price is in line with other top of the line sewing machines and will undoubtedly fall as time goes on. My opinion is that if someone wants it and can afford it, they should not be shamed for spending their money.
Users have always been able to change thread colors. However, they have never been able to pull up the entire catalogue of thread from Mettler and import a thread color on screen. Also, older models had a semi automatic needle threader where you still needed to pull down the thing to thread the machine. These new machine are fully automatic where you don't need to use your hands at all. Thanks for watching.
@@ThimbleBookunderstood. Bernina 830s and 880s have fully automatic threaders similar to the 990 which require no hands. Also very similar to the 790 Pro.
@@sschoch2000 Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware of this prior to recording. Learn something new everyday.
Enjoyed the review. I purchased the 990. It will be a perfect companion to my Brother Luminaire 3. I currently own a Bernina 790+. Bernina has needed to update their machines. Trust me when I say all these top of the line machines deliver . But each has features that are unique. And they weigh a ton!!!
Congrats on your new machine :-) I'm sure you'll get plenty of good use out of it.
Hi Linda. I am in the same position as you were, in having a Luminaire3, and am considering purchasing a B990. To me it feels more of a quilting machine, where as the Luminaire and the new Aveneer feels more of an embroidery machine. I love my Luminaire3 but not sure the Aveneer is going to be a great step up as i am more of a quilter and general sewer. Are you happy with your B990? Can you morph new quilting designs that you bring into the machine, just like the quilting designs that are built into the machine? I love how you can make stitches bigger and smaller and how good is the jumbo stitch? And how wonderful to use the screen just like a tablet- no more having to use tools/editfunctions to move and change designs for every step. Also, how is the tension on the machine after morphing stitches and embroiderys. My luminairehas amazing tension on any threads i have used, including 100wt in top and bobbin. Thank you in advance for answering my million questions. Would love to hear back from you. ❤🧵🪡
I wanted to comment about the 'target' age group of the machine and using technology. I'm 67 years old and love using new features. Navigating should be easy. If people are having trouble navigating, it's the program not the user. I know you didn't mean to be offensive but please get over that idea that older people are not good at using technology. It has nothing to do with age.
@@RuthPoupon Im not talking about all seniors, just the ones who the statement applies to. The lady who taught me how to use the 790 is 82 years young. Thanks for watching.
I have preordered one in the UK, we pay less here though. I still work full time, have a B830 which I use for quilting and embroidery. The BISR is a huge improvement on the BSR which was a Bernina innovation and is now out of patent so is being put on the Brother Aveneer and Janome top end machine.
I prefer the solid feel of the Bernina, the user interface is better in my view, very intuitive when I was test driving it yesterday. The position of the screen is better than on the Brother machines in my view, I have a brother XV which is good but I still prefer the 830.
Thank you for another great video. I have a Bernina 570 and 770 and love them both. I have no desire to buy the 990. I completely agree with you that what Bernina is calling new and innovative are things that other brands have had for several years. Honestly, I feel that this machine is somewhat of a disappointment.
I also love my 570QE. They basically strapped an iPad to a sewing machine and called it a day. I wish they just released an app and a way to connect phone/tablet to existing sewing machine to have it as second screen or run advanced features on it. I use their 570QE simulator on PC and it's very handy. Price is ridiculous. It should at least have a UA-cam player to be able to watch all those sewing tutorials :D
I can't help myself!! I'm loving all the commentary you are giving. I've been Subscribed to you since you did the Unboxing of the Epic 980Q
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When I finally saw ads for this machine my thoughts were, finally what others have been offering for years. And I already own two Berninis, B440QE and B570QEE so I do love Bernina. I have a long arm so I don't need that long harp for quilting. Now for embroidery? Yes. But not at $22K. I can buy a multineedle embroidery machine for a lot less instead. It is a beautiful machine. If I won the big lottery I would buy one. But do I need it? No.Technically I don't need everything the two I already own can do.
Great review! I am retired and can quilt/embroider all day, and I can't justify the price! The best feature for me is actually the built-in BSR. I can't use templates on my 770QE Plus with the BSR adaptor. As you stated, many of the other "new" features have been on other brands for quite some time. Even if I had the money (which I don't), I would be hesitant to buy the first edition of a model. Glitches and bugs always seem to be found, and then people need to do upgrades.
I agree. First models often have bugs to work out. Thanks for watching.
I agree- even if I was to be considering buying this (no can do) I'd wait at least a year. Also, as for the BSR, check out Bernina Jeff- he has a set up for sale that has table that you can fit with your BSR underneath- pretty innovative and a heck of a lot less expensive.
@@mbs7078 Thanks for the info! Love Bernina Jeff and his products, so I will check it out!
I agree patent protection is the reason Bernina didnt have auto needle threaders. I think Bernina was hung up on their icons without text to make it easier for themselves. I have struggled knowing what the icons mean . Not to the tune of 22k. I like to purchase used Berninas. I just got a B790 Plus one year old with SDT embroidery module for 3500. It only has a million stitches. They do not keep their value so buy used
You got a great deal. eBay has that model going for 6k. Did you buy from a sewing repair shop?
@@Quilt4Joy I think it was a dealership for another brand. They took it in on trade
It does make a lot of sense to get a used model. Thanks for watching. 👍
This was a refreshing video or review of the B990. Actually the only one I have seen so far that shows the pros & cons. You made some very good points (and common sense) of buying and actually using this new Bernina. I was also impressed with your description of the warranty, which is not that great, considering the cost of this machine and all the electronic features it has. (so many things could go wrong) Personally I would never buy a new on the market machine the very first year. Thank you so much for doing this video. I can't wait to see your review of the new Babylock & Brother machines that are debuting in Aug. Sept.
Thanks for watching. I am looking forward to seeing the new offerings from Babylock/Brother this fall.
I love this machine and had a one to one demo of it a couple of weeks ago. However one small disappointment is that it doesn't't have a 1/4" foot included....which is crucial for patch working quilt tops! At £13k you would have thought they would have included that small but important foot!, after all it is targeted at quilters as well as dressmakers and embroiderers.
It would make sense for a dealership to throw in a free 1/4 foot in order to secure a sale on such an expensive machine.
I am turning 65 this year and I will be buying one at some point. I really don't need the BSR since I have a Q20, but everything else is what I have been waiting for. Embroidery placement is now so easy.
Awesome. I hope you enjoy your new machine! Thanks for watching.
Love your reviews and this one in particular. I own 2 Bernina machines and L890 overlocker/serger and a 790 QE, Crystal Edition. This too has the BSR, which I love. I also have a Viking Epic 2, which has WiFi and a laser. The machines I have are a struggle to take to classes. I've often thought of buying a smaller machine due to transportability. Now, I love all my machines and I use them for different things. My Epic 2, which never needs oiling and it automatically updates (love that too!) is the best for piecing! My 1/4" seams are perfect. Oh yes, and it has a laser which I often use. My Bernina is what I use for FMQ. Will I buy the new 990?? No. I have all the features I want and need and more on my machine, both which have embroidery units and embroider beautifully. For me it's not worth the $ but for someone who sews daily... that's different. Your reviews are refreshing and help us understand the pros and cons before we set on a journey for a new sewing machine. Thank you for all you do to bring us your always informative views and opinions. And no one should ever get mad at you. Honestly, a sewing machine is a very subjective item. The beauty is we as quilters and sewists have so many options available to us. There is no right or wrong machine. It's what the user prefers! Great info!
Thanks for watching.
Great video. Thank you very much!!!
Your views are the best! Thank you so much:)💜
Find a disposable income calculator...LOLOL. Best advice ever!
Absolutely love this B990 it is The Best,!!!
I usually purchase the top of the line sewing machine in any brand because it gives the best stitch. I would want to buy the Bernina 990 for the precision of the straight stitch and the ability to stitch any and all fabrics. To me, the features on any high end sewing machines are secondary to the stitching capability. Additionally, the bobbin located below the stitching platform is a plus, not only for the ability to change bobbins while not having to remove your work to do so, but any sewing machine technician will tell you that this type of bobbin gives a more precise stitch. All the industrial and straight stitch sewing machines have this type of bobbin assembly.
Awesome. I hope you enjoy your new baby. 😁
I know for my brother machine, if I got it serviced anywhere besides the brother dealer it voids the warranty...warranties are a scam anyway because of the hoops they make you jump through
I couldn't resist to say "Amen Sister!!" Why do people waste their energy on being negative instead to trying to do something positive with the energy they have to offer.
Positive vibes are always good. Thanks for watching.
I’m not a Bernina gurl, but I think the user interface is outstanding. Did you know you can use a mouse with the machine? Amazing!
Ещё у первой Quattro была возможность использовать мышь, и она шла в комплекте с машиной.
That, too, is not new technology. I've been using a mouse on my TOL Brother machines for several years
Very nice balanced review! I appreciate this very much! My only suggestion would be to strongly recommend that anyone considering this machine be sure the dealer and repair is reasonably close by and to visit and try out the machine before buying as well as evaluate the teaching and support available! Thanks again and I am subscribing to see more of your content❤ :-)
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The ability to pick thread color from many brands has been available on Bernina models for many years. Bigger is better if you quilt in the hoop..
I love your content and I was hoping you would do a review on this new machine. I have the Janome M17 and I love it. I paid 12K and it came with a custom-made cabinet that retails for 6k, so I got a really good deal. The one I got was a floor model. I have always wanted a Bernina. The thing that keeps me from buying on is the comments about Berninas being temperamental. I can’t afford the risk of getting a lemon. You rarely hear that happening with Janome machines. I would love the camera feature and the jumbo stitch. The M17 has a lot of features I thought I would never use, but I use them and it’s been a great experience. With the Dime Monster hoop, edge-to-edge quilting is so easy. I can’t wait to see what the new Brother machine will have to offer. I will never buy Brother, I think their quality is low grade.
The Bernina 8 series can be temperamental if you move too quickly when threading. This machine has the Bernina 4/5/7/9 hook system that is more user friendly, especially if, like me, you tend to thread quickly. I have the 5 series with that hook system and it has only messed up when I threaded with the presser foot up.
🧐 Dime monster hoops. I should try. Thanks for mentioning.
It is nice that Bernina finally caught up with the rest of the machine embroidery world, implementing camera, laser, and auto threading on this new machine. But so far, the only feature I see that I don't already have on my top-of-the-line Brother is a big screen. And it didn't set me back $22,990 before taxes!! But IF I win the lottery................I would buy it now, with all those features!
Big screens are good, but they can use more electricity. The Brother high end machines are very nice. Thanks for watching.
@@SlowHorses-x1v - the new Brother TOL is exactly the same price.
I have an old bernina (50 years now) from my mom. She gat it when she was married to my dad. It still works because of that High production quality from Switzerland. Bernina is not Chinese sewing machines that break down after a year. It is true that the machines are expensive, but their machines will last. This machine will probably work long after I'm dead
Yes, they have some very high quality machines. Thanks for watching.
But perhaps not, because of ht electronic parts which do end up not being supported, or just simply die.
Thanks for this video, you forget to tell about a new feature that I think this machine is the only one to have, it's the possibility to use a mouse instead of using fingers or stylus to use the screen. You can absolutely do everything with the mouse. There is a slot to the right side of the machine to install a dongle for cordless mouse, and it's like you are in front of your computer ! Aside from that, it's true that the automatic pressure foot is not new, I have it on my old brother 1800NV, the automatic threader too, and so many things that other brands have since long time. But I own a 790+ and will stay with it. For information, in France, the cost of this machine is about 15000 euros.
Wow the price is drastically different there. Thanks for mentioning about the mouse.
I pointed this out above. I've been using a mouse on TOL Brother and Baby Lock machines for a number of years.
I don’t understand why they don’t put a bobbin sensor on the 5 mm width machines (475, 535 etc). You lose a lot of features when you don’t have the 9 mm width. The extra built in stitches aren’t something that a piecer/quilter will use. I also hated losing the even feed foot when I moved from the 570 to the 535. I was hoping they would address these issues, and was disappointed that they didn’t. I downgraded from the 570 to the 535 due to stitch quality issues on the 9 mm machine for piecing.
It would be cool if they included the other features on 5mm machines.
Thanks for posting. Its a beautiful machine but not for me. The price and weight are good to know now. I would love to see one in action, but would never buy one. I wish everyone well! Keep sewing! Thanks again for posting.
Great video as usual. The 990 can easily take the place of a longarm, so you can do your own quilting. I believe that is the point of the bigness. I would've liked that, but i have both long arm and sewing machine. And if I had the 990, I would still have to baste the quilt first! so I like what I have. ❤ thank you
I'm a Husqvarna Viking/Pfaff person myself. The one Bernina feature I wish we had is the stitch regulator system. I know many gasp at the price of these machines, but you have to take into account the amount of research, development, testing, and expensive technology that goes into them. I mean, they're equipped with a legitimate touchscreen tablet, for starters. Programmers have to be paid for developing those interfacings and functions. The amount of precision required by the machines is high. You're also paying for conveniences that can really aid in creating beautiful pieces. Again, the fact that folks had to research, develop, and install a camera on this machine is not a cheap feat. But i get it. They're the price of a car and will probably last just as long. Just remember this difference. The car may transport you to a memorable moment. The machine will help you create one you can actually hold in your hand.
This is all very true. You get what you pay for.
I'M SORRY I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT A LIFE INSURANCE POLICY TO PAY MACHINE TO PAY FOR IT I AM 72 NOW BUT THIS IS MY PASSION I LOVE THE EMBROIDERY MACHINE AND NEVER QUILTED IN MY LIFE I LOVE PLAYING AROUND WITH EMBROIDERY I GO TO CLASS EVERY MONTH
Awesome. I wish my local area had a embroidery class.
A very entertaining review😂
Very interesting review. You named all the things that I would like about a fancy machine as well as some drawbacks that I would consider major such as having to ship that big lug to be serviced. Fortunately, I have a Bernina dealer not far from home. For many others, this would be a huge issue.
That said, the cost of machines is getting phenomenally high. I know that most people can get a loan to obtain their dream machine whatever that might be. Most of these high end machines are pretty well beyond my budget and I hardly consider myself to be poor.
I also wonder something else that I haven't seen anywhere and that is the human component. Having to think through and design your quilt or embroidery project is only part of it. Having more non-automatic processes incorporated into a piece whether a clothing article or a quilt does make it less than perfect; it adds that human touch. My example is would you rather have a set of china with handpainted flowers or a set of perfectly executed dinnerware done by machine. This points out the value of the artistic side, the human side of any item created and is the charm of handmade items whether quilts, clothing or plates for the table.
Or take embroidery for example. It's so nice to have a hand embroidered item. It does take time but that item is far more cherished than a machine embroidered item from the store. I understand that some items a person wouldn't want to spend the time on hand embroidering like dish towels that are kitchen workhorses but what about items that would be passed down for generations like baptismal clothes. Granted, not everyone is talented with a needle in hand so machine embroidery is a great option.
I also wonder about the loss of sewing techniques done by machine. Not so many years back, there were loads of books on fabric manipulation to produce wonderful textures to be used in anything from blouses to coats. Or great things that can be done with threads and different types of needles in the machine. For those who can only afford a basic or just above that level of machine, I encourage you all to search out all the wonderful ways sewing can be enhanced and enjoyed even if all you have is a machine from a department store or even an old treadle (which are great, BTW. Power outage doesn't stop me. LOL). In short, look past the razz'e-dazzle of high end machines (yep, they're fun) but push into new territory with what you already have. There is so much more to have fun with and learn even for an old dog like me.
When you go to quilting shows, an increasing amount of quilts have been quilted using a large hoop on a computerized embroidery machine. It takes no skill to save a design to a thumb drive, hoop the design, and hit start. But, it takes actual talent to free motion quilt on a manual sewing machine. The skill is being lost to automation. But, at some point, there will be push back.
my 12 year ld Bernina 830 has an automatic threader
My mistake. The 900 series just introduced it. But, yes it has been on the 800 series quilters for quite some time. Thanks for watching.
I loved your no-nonsense and very down-to-earth review of this machine that I've been lusting over for a hot minute since those emails and videos from Bernina started showing up in my in-box. It's a totally different thing to talk to a Bernina dealer freshly returned from Bernina University about the new 990 machine, or to talk to someone who is 100% gung ho and has already put down a deposit to get one even though they have not actually seen one in person, let alone had a chance to test sew on it. Yes, the machine not fitting into my brand new Koala cabinet that I just got 2 months ago is a big deal. Yes the camera and scanning features are cool, but honestly -- the only thing I ever embroider is little quilt labels so me thinking I'm going to suddenly start scanning and digitizing and doing giant embroideries in the new giant hoop is like me thinking that if only I spent $23K on home gym equipment I would suddenly transform into a person who wakes up at 5 AM every day to work out (not!). Because, like you said, just because a machine has fancy bells and whistles, I can think they are cool features but I'm still not going to use them if I don't do that kind of sewing. So now reading through the comments on your review of the 990, I'm wondering whether it would be better for me to be on the lookout for opportunities to buy a secondhand Bernina 790 Pro machine from someone who is upgrading to the new 990? I'm off to look for whether you did a review on that machine when it came out. Thanks!
Yes, if your not going to magically start doing large embroideries, it would be an awesome idea to get a pre owned 790. Also, you might want to check with some local dealers to see if they got any on trade in. I do have a 790 video on this channel. Thanks for watching.
Thank you. Not for me but like your content.
We have heard zero regarding the internals. Bernina has in the past, with the exception of the Q-Series, used sintered bushing bearings, which are archaic. Hopefully they incorporated sealed ball bearings, but not getting my hopes up. Also, the motor. Brush type motors are a thing of the past, so did they use a stepper/servo motor? It appears not. They used the Bernina Hook bobbin system. Very disappointing this area was not greatly improved, especially for the price. The stitch length/width knobs are still very vulnerable to damage. So, in summary, the computer side of the machine is greatly improved, but apparently not the mechanics. Last, but not least, it will not fit many of our existing cabinets. Sorry to be so negative, but was hoping for more, so sticking with our 880+.
Hmm. You brought up some very interesting points. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for a great review. I have been sewing for well over 50 years and a die hard Bernina lover. I am not that impressed with the new 990, it seems that they could have done a lot more to fall more in line with the other TOL sewing machines. I have a 770 and 570 machines which I love and I cannot see ever needing anything more than what I have
The 8 series machines have had nearly same threader system since 2009, so not their first one.
Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware of that prior to recording.
The Bernina 990 is very beautiful, but it looks like some of the other brands. I will not ever be able to afford one, so I don’t consider it a contender. I have owned Bernina for almost 30 years and love the quality. Although my 1630 is old (bout hit new in 96) it still works. Not quite as well as when it was new, but did not expect it to! I bought a B530 when it was being discontinued. I bought the floor model and saved a ton. I find it does everything I need -main reason to buy was to use the BSR to quilt.
I prefer having my sewing machine separate from my embroidery machine so that I can sew while embroidering something else.
This new machine is amazing, but I honestly thought it would be more distinctive. Many will likely buy it, but with the economy like this, I am not sure this price will appeal to as many.
Your right. The economy isn't doing so hot at the moment. Thanks for watching.
Great video!
I’ve had a Bernina 217 (industrial) 1530, 930, 950 (semi industrial), 770 QE, 475QE Kaffe Edition and Bernina Q20 Longarm. Their mechanical 930/950 machines are great. The 1530 screen faded so I couldn’t use it. 217 is good for heavy factory work. I occasionally use the 770 QE mainly for straightline quilting, buttonholes. and I’ve used the 475 for a couple of weeks and regret buying it. My favorite machine is a Juki J-150 Industrial, 2600st/min and 2nd, mechanical Juki TL2200 QVP, 1500st/min. Both straight stitch and fast. I don’t think I’d buy another Bernina especially this expensive one which has way too many bells and whistles for me. I just want to sew on a machine that’s solid and dependable. If anything I’d rather it do my dishes and laundry so I can have more time to sew.
I would want a machine to do my cooking if possible. LOL. Thanks for watching.
I think your assessment of this machine is terrific, thank you for such a detailed report on it. However, it's pretty irrelevant for me, as who the eff is spending $23,000 USD on a sewing/embroidery machine? That's a car. There's something very tone deaf about this price point. Most designers and repair/adjustment professionals seem to use semi-industrial, or industrial straight stitch only for a great deal of their sewing, with maybe a serger for knits? An industrial is usually under $1000, let's say, the Juki DDL 8700, which is $850, 3.6% of the cost of the 990. Let's add in a serger for $500, and now you're still talking less than 6% of the cost of the 990. It's just kind of odd that the professionals don't go for this kind of thing, but Bernina is out there selling them as if they are the answer to every sewer's dream. Yes, embroidery is a whole industry on its own. The average commercial embroidery machine is about $6000. If you add that in, you're at $7350, or still less than a third of $23,000. So the question of to whom they are marketing this remains unanswered. It reminds me of Charmin's gigantic toilet rolls, you only need to change the roll once a month or so, great deal, right? It actually costs almost 3 times the amount of their mega rolls. The emperor is wearing no clothes, folks.
990 is the Maserati of machines for sure. Thanks for watching 😀
love this
uk price for machine £12950 machine and and emb unit
The 990 Is too heavy, too big, too new … I would love a sewing only version that Incorporates new technology.
You make a good point. Not everyone is interested in using the embroidery module. So, it would be a good idea to make it an option instead of a requirement.
Holy Dooley! It is $21000 in Australia!!! Nope thats a big no for me.
This sewing machine is too big for my use. I need to be able to pick up and move things around on my own and these larger sewing machines are just not portable enough for my liking. My complaint is that it is not “pretty”. I like the machines with some color like my Pfaff 7550 which I purchased new in the 1990’s.
I have several sergers on the same table as my sewing machine plus little drawer type things. I have a “L” table configuration with a second long skinny table on wheels that slides partially under the primary work surface. My Brother ULT embroidery machine sits on that. No way can I have one ginormous machine taking up real estate.
Me, I keep one machine for only embroidery. I don’t switch it back and forth for sewing. I sew on a Pfaff or Viking #1.
Someday, if I get a different residence with a larger sewing room, I would absolutely enjoy have one of these larger Bernina machines with a dedicated table to leave it on. To me even the B770 is too big and heavy.
Space is definitely important to many. Thanks for watching.
Pfaff 7550 is one of the good ones :-) Thanks for watching.
Why so negative! The technicians would have some kind of an accent no matter where they came from!
Thanks for the heads up. You're awesome. Signing off!
If she owns this machine, she ain't using Miss Clairol! he he he All the sewers I know that purchase this level, expensive machine are so very much younger (decades) than me, esp in the USA. They have jobs and take out loans to pay for them. That is my experience. Who else owns this type of machine? Sewers who bought TOLs when they weren't so expensive and traded them in every few years to upgrade. This is what I have done. If I were to trade in my Epic 2 for this machine, it would cost me around 3000 euro and not 15,000 euro the cost in Europe. That makes them affordable. The demographic is the sewer who has the TOL machine, hooked on all the bells and whistles and can't live without the newest upgrade, not age.
3000 is a pretty good deal on trade in if you want all bells and whistles. For us across the pond, it might be well worth it to get the machine in Europe and fly it back home :-) Thanks for watching.
sorry i am poor person it would take me 6 year's to pay with my trade in of my 880 emb. machine so I WOULD HAVE TO BUY NEW BOBBINS BECAUSE THE NEW MACHINE TAKES A LARGE BOBBIN
Yes, the need for new accessories and a new table would be a sticking point for most folks.
I'm just now seeing this review, and I think that it's spot-on. I think you're right in your assessment of who Berninas' target customer is. Older with disposable income. And not just any sewist, but a quilter. That's key, because quilters spend the most money of any consumers in the home sewing industry. So of course they'd build a machine that caters to them. I've heard that these machines are really popular with that demographic. Good for Bernina. Now as to the other thing that you stated about this machine that I find really accurate, and seeing how different manufacturers are debuting new TOL machines, I think what you said applies across the board: "A lot of people get caught up in the features of a new machine, and don't really take the time to consider if the machine is actually for them." Amen to that. When this machine made it's debut, I'll admit that I was drooling. That is, until I did a run-down of how much the payments per month would be, and for how many years until it would officially be mine. And not mine and the banks'. That plus the fact that although it has all kinds of neat stuff in it, what gave me the most pause...well the price did that, but still...was the fact that I'm not a quilter. I'm a garment sewist. Really, all I need are two stitches : straight and zig-zag. All those thousands of other things that the machine can do are mind and pocketbook blowing, but honestly? I wouldn't be using them much, if at all. I've longed for a Bernina for decades, and quite a few years ago now, got one (Artista 730e) from a Craigslist seller. She sold it to me for a song. Four hundred dollars, to be exact, and it was the best money I've spent on sewing products, hands down. I'm in the market for another (the 730 has issues) USED machine. For those that want all the bells and whistles, I think it's great. For others, I'd encourage (whether this or any TOL model) to really think about what one needs out of a machine, the cost and go from there.
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I really wish there was a nicer machine for us garment makers with great lighting, a narrow free arm, metal construction, and few stitches on it. Thanks for watching.
@@ThimbleBook You probably are describing a Juki industrial. Except for the narrow free arm, that is. Which brings me to my point. I figured that if I were to purchase a new machine, it would be an industrial. I've become spoiled by having the luxury of computer technology stuffed in a sewing machine and don't want to do without it. Plus a zig-zag stitch for making buttonholes. Went looking for such an industrial, and found that there isn't one (to my knowledge) that has everything I'd want. A compromise would be that I'd have to go for a machine that isn't computerized (they exist, but the computer is for mass production applications) and only does a straight-stitch. So. Back to the used Bernina search for me. Probably just as well. The industrials need a dedicated table base and might need a separate motor, depending.
I had to stop watching after the comment about the accents. You previously made an ageist statement. Really? Most of the people I know that can afford a machine of this expense tend to be a bit older. Wow. You need a reality check.
If you worked hard and have lived long enough to enjoy the fruits of your labor, where is the offense? Thanks for watching half the video, take care.
Won't be buying. Too expensive and not a nice looking machine. I have a babylock ellisimo and Bernina 830LE and between them both I have what I want. These machines are too heavy to take anywhere so you would still need another to take to classes or even take to the cottage.
Computers went from being the size of a guest bedroom to fitting in a pocket. So, I don't understand why sewing machines are getting bigger instead of becoming smaller with advances in technology. Thanks for watching.
Older demograpic? Yikes. I'm a babyboomer who traded in her TOL 880+ for the Husqvarna Epic 2 because Bernina is behind in technology. The Epic 2 which has now been replaced by the Epic 3 My Epic 2 sews and embroiders rings around the Bernina TOLs including the 990. You obviously do not quilt, or sew larger projects, yes throat space, bigger is better. I stopped the video midway.