100% stock Suzuki DR650 review (hard core dirt test)︱Cross Training Enduro
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The Suzuki DR650 is great flatform for creating a great adventure, dual sport, or even a supermoto bike. But what is it like in stock? This Suzuki DR650 review looks at the stock bike before we started our 10 part adventure bike series. Check out the links in this vid! Time to get back into adventure riding again... but somehow wound up trying some cross training on the big fat bushpig, a brand new DR650! All silly riding done on private property. The ultimate Suzuki DR650 review. The wheelie beast. I've owned a pile of different bikes and for some reason the old DR650 is the one that enjoyed itself with the front wheel in the air. Why? Buggered if I know. Designed back in the jurassic era, it's one of the few dinosaurs left, just read the Suzuki DR650 reviews. Air cooled. Five speed. Cable clutch. It has barely changed since 1996. And the Suzuki DR650 comes highly restricted from the factory but will still pop the front wheel up everywhere even in the ridiculously high third gear if you read the stock Suzuki DR650 review. For some reason they outsourced to this design team for the DR650. Tyre shredding acceleration. Chain snapping torque. Bowel loosening thrills. Long recognised as the best motorcycle ever built in Suzuki DR650 reviews, it has also faced extreme prejudice due to its phenomemal power output. Seen as an unfair advantage, the DR650 has been banned from all major motosports including motocross, moto GP and enduro. Are you ready to risk your life for the ultimate ride on the DR650 epic enduro beast? We still don't know the horsepower of the DR650 because it keeps breaking they dyno machine. Who created this absurdly powerful bike? It wasn't the usual Suzuki engineers according to Suzuki DR650 reviews. These misfits also went on to design the DR800 which was taken out of production when it killed too many riders. The cross training enduro vids on our dirt bike channel apply the same skills to enduro bikes - you'll be amazed at the difference it makes in terms of traction and advanced techniques such as jumping up vertical rock faces ... and wheelies! Everything in tough gnarly terrain is trying to throw you off balance, so balancing lays a foundation for enduro skills for guys like Jonny Walker and Ruben Chadwick. Anyway I only did this video because supporters asked if I could string together all the Suzuki DR650 wheelie vids in one video.The many faces of the Suzuki DR650. Trials. Desert racing. Motocross. And Moto G P. Should you buy a Suzuki DR650? Just remember this important statistic. And good luck old chap. Getting into trials riding... Losing traction is a cardinal sin in trials riding and riders go to extreme lengths to ensure their tires don't slip. Thankfully the DR1800 never went into production. Although that can get a bit nerve wracking as it means highway speed and beyond which could be nasty if it flipped according to Suzuki DR650 reviews. The weird thing is at one point I owned a KTM 690 and it was much harder to wheelie, not an epic enduro beast. Sure, it put out close to double the horsepower but it felt harder to lift and keep on the balance point. Maybe it was just me, but I was extremely disappointed and of course went back to a Suzuki DR650 (not just for the wheelies of course). These Suzuki DR650 bikes have certainly carved out a reputation for themselves. The massive single just made the bike jump up and down on the one spot. A major problem faced was obtaining test riders for the DR650. They did not need to be skilled riders. Suzuki needed riders who had a death wish, or had a sufficiently low I Q that they were unable to assess the risks involved. Being such an old design, they have a ridiculously long list of known issues, and a few of these can actually kill the engine. But many of us enjoy the process of fixing these, update the suspension, and end up with an ultra reliable bike that is way cheaper than its bling ridden adventure competititors. If you are interested, I've done an entire series and Suzuki DR650 review on transforming the Suzuki DR650 into a kick arse adventure bike... and wheelie beast. Most trials techniques involve exact use of the clutch e.g. feathering the clutch for traction control up hills... dropping the clutch to launch the bike into the air as Jonny Walker and Graham Jarvis can do on extreme enduro racing bikes and trials bikes. Music: www.purple-pla...
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After watching this video I’ve realized that the DR is 1000% more capable off road than I am. I’m not worried about mods anymore until my skill level improves. Nice riding!
Same here Kastro. I kept that DR650 completely stock for a few months... and I'm doing the same with my new one I just bought a few months ago. The only mod that might be worth doing straight away is Plex valves for the front forks. It dramatically improves the suspension for both road and offroad riding and generally the bike will be a bit safer e.g. you won't have the front end diving under heavy braking.
AHHHHH YEAH THAT OL' DR 650 WHEEEEEEELIEEEEE! lol "Oh f%#@! This is ridiculous!" Man I'm so amped to see you back on the DR.... watching you blast one around, doing non-stop wheelies, was one of the first things that got me into adventure riding. Watching this video is like coming home :D I'm excited to see what she turns into!
+eveRide ADV thank you kind sir, it is indeed good to be back on the bushpig but i badly need good tires and suspension lol! getting much response to your uncut adv ride suggestion? i've had quite a few guys asking if i could just post long uncut dirt riding footage and wondering if i should start something similar...
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES I'll vote for your usual edits and cuts. Very much like them.
I gotta ask: my brand new stock 650 (bought it with 0 miles on it) has about 75 miles on it tonight. I was riding in the dark, looked down, and noticed my header pipe is glowing red! WTF? I coasted home and got on the forums. Seems other's have noticed it on their's, and it is much more noticeable at night. I Don't like it, it seems...dangerous or something. The thin steel is only .60 thick is what they are saying. Have you noticed this on your 650?
Dude is Wheeling a stock dr better than I can wheelie mine with a pumper carb and dropped a tooth up front😂
@@gino7609 I have no idea
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After a 34 year hiatus, went out to buy a DR, came home with an XT. Now I'm just confused. Great vid!
+sassed1 2many ah it's all mostly the same in the long run.... most of it comes down to the rider and not the bike!
He's worried about the suspension but he's not even on the ground LOL
Well, yeah, that, and he's complaining about the crappy suspension, tires, and weight, etc., but hey, look at the places he is riding that thing! And HOW he is riding it, I mean he is seriously ripping on that thing on some very nasty terrain. I'd say the DR650 is doing a great job, stock! I mean it's a BIG bike! Now imagine trying to ride those same trails, creeks, rocks, roots, and hills on a Harley Davidson Sportster. Yeah that's right, then the DR650 would feel like the finest dirt bike in the world! Lol.. The only reason I make that comparison is because back in the old days, that's what they did, they bought a Sportster, put some knobbies on it and took off the lights, and rode it off-road, they did the same with with BSA's and Triumphs too. Because back then, there were no dirt bikes and street bikes, there were just motorcycles! Lol
This video actually made me buy a new DR. I had no idea they could do this much insanity!
You right. I want one too.
I've been riding my DR650 on all sorts of off-road terrain in Colorado for many years. It is a VERY capable off-road bike, and, a very good street bike too. Of course I did put better tires on mine for riding off-road (Pirelli MT21's), but I didn't do a thing to the suspension, it works just fine for me.
@@trevorjameson3213 YOu sire are the exact person I need advice from! lol :) I moved to Colorado a year ago, and sold 2 motorcycles to make the move. Finally have the cash to pick one up and looking daily. I see a 1997 DR650 that looks good in my area. My goal is to ride mostly trails, so deciding between a 4 stroke or 2 stroke, 250, 500, 0r bigger....so many questions. I have a 3k budget to find a used bike. Do you recommend DR over any other at that price range? KLR 250 any good? I have ridden sport bikes on the street for the last 8 years and the first and only dirt bike I had I got when I was 15 - a 1979 YZ250 (I'm now 50).
Subbed to your channel.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Still very impressive skills on a stock DR! I thought you were leaning towards a DRZ for your next adventure bike, though
+frogzie long story frogzie, that will come out in the planned DR650 series... FFRC did the suspension on my bike then a mate's, i did a video review and they liked it so much they asked if they could sponsor a DR650 video series by lending me a brand new DR650 to ride for a few months. and of course i jumped at the chance, no way i could afford to buy one. :)
You guys talking about “heavy”. Try riding an R1200GSA around for a while and picking it up a few times, and you’ll be looking at the DR and and the DRZ saying, “200-250lbs LIGHTER? OMG sign me up!”).
We've had one in the stable for a few months now, Mike.... I know what you mean lol.
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i dont usually 'like' videos, but when i do its because you bloody well earnt it. Great detail and footage of actual riding while talking
Cheers Alex
You did damn well wrestling that pig around! I loved my DR, but god they are heavy things! Well done on the sponsorship too!
+JoeJoe Moto cheers joe, the guys at FFRC were very generous given they barely knew me from a bar of soap. they'd watched the vids and suggested lending me the new DR to do a video series as they've been keen to invent some new suspension components for the DR. looking forward to it. :)
The older ones handle great for me. I have restored 1986 dr600 beast. These newer ones are built weak
Great adventure bike.. You ride that heavy bike very well. Wish I could throw my Ktm 690 around like that. 😎👍
How can a bike be called enduro with street suspension?
??? I don't think Suzuki ever claimed the DR650 was an enduro bike.
@@crosstrainingenduro i guess i sorta missed that youre doing enduro on a not enduro bike thats stock
Ah gotcha. You sometimes see this though from manufacturers, I think KTM still call their 690 an 'enduro' bike. 🤔
Wow, this guy wheelies better than Evel Knievel! 💪
I am now looking into a big DR myself... I hope I can also be all that is man with those wheelies. Also the first thing I'm doing is that damned suspension.
This is my first trail bike and I def feel some of the problems you talk about! Suspension and tires will be the next upgrade I look to. She is a heavy girl though 🤣
You are an incredible rider. These issues will be major issues for inexperienced riders, spinning the tires, bottoming out, etc., and you accelerate through them. Truly impressive. I have an 02 dr650 that I will never sell. I sold my 98 xt350 and I kick myself everyday for it.
Thanks, although I ride with a lot of very experienced riders who make me feel like I'm a beginner lol. And the closer I get to 60 the less I ride aggressively nowadays too.
For those of us coming late to the party it would be great if you could mention at some point how you came to choose this bike. This channel has inspired me to cross train to the extent I can. It has obviously had a positive effect on your ability to ride the bush pig like a boss.
He said he used to have one years ago, no?
just found you…looking forward to seeing what you do on the ol' girl, I recently bought a 2015 DR650, went down for the first time yesterday…time for more mods then!
haha looks like I heavy bike, nice wheeling to😢 I am still to afraid of going to far back and it is really annoying me, oh and awesome video once again
I love it what modifications can I do to get more horsepower out of my 99 drs 650cc
There was a link to the carb mods in the middle of this vid, the most important mod. And then a link at the end to our 10 part series with all the power mods in it.
My bush pig is mostly street.
Come on the suspension isn’t made for jumping. Overall its not as bad as you let on.
Well the video title does say 'hard core dirt test'... as much as I limited abilities can make it so. 😂 In plenty of videos I say the standard suspension will be acceptable for light riders not aiming to push the bike at all or load it up with luggage.
Have you ever ridden a KTM 380 EXC? Those things are crazy! I wonder how they would compare to a new 300cc 2 stroke bike.
would love to, my brother used to have one and loved it. it would be good to see one of the euro brands go to 350cc, i reckon everyone would be drooling over the extra grunt.
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I don’t think there’s a big enough market for high displacement smokers as there are already so many people preferring the 250cc or even 125cc 2 strokes. The people that want more low end torque simply need to buy 4 strokes which is sad.
My dad owns a 380 and he said that when I’m able to kickstart it, I would be allowed to drive it. Now that I got quite bored of my Beta rr50 racing I tried kickstarting it and after a few attempts succeeded. (Mind you, this is quite a big upgrade for me as a 15 year old and I’m still ecstatic about this so I probably sound like a bragging a-hole😅)
I literally have no words to describe how I felt driving this thing! I had to rethink big parts of my driving habits, like not holding the throttle wide open while shifting as leaving the throttle slightly open while shifting already results in the front end coming up... XD
All of this probably sounds completely normal to you but for me it was a crazy, highly addictive experience!
Have a good day and thank you for your time!
If you want to drive like that yes the suspension needs work, but for the type of riding I do it is a dream at 71 yr, love the soft suspension, great for the back, I do off road but go slow and enjoy the scenery, but you are wright about the tires going down a hard packed at gravel at 80 kn and in to soft sand can be scary, but the worst thing about the DR 650 is the small gas tank, can't go for a good ride with out looking for gas stations, witch are hard to find were I like to ride. I am just waiting for my new 2020 DR 650 it is hear but want every thing on it before I pick it up. The only thing is I will leave the stock tires on till I ware them out, should not take all that long, Have a Versys X 300 great bike but want to feel the wind more so will keep it for cold weather and rain days. also have a Suzuki S 40 , love it to but small tank as suspension not good for rough roads. So when I get the Dr It will most likely be my main ride, well be able to feel the wind on my chest and great soft suspension for those rough roads, and like the Versys X I will have it set up for the Treker hard bags.
Are you in Australia, Hilton? The new Tanamai edition is coming soon which has the big 20 litre tank, hand guards, and bashplate. I am hoping to buy one if I can save enough money. I agree the stock suspension is okay for just cruising around, I did not change mine on the last bike for a few months and found it was fine until I started riding more aggressively.
Tanami model: www.suzukimotorcycles.com.au/news/dr650se-tanami-edition/
@@crosstrainingenduro Have not heard about the Tanamai hear in PEI Canada, the Dr 650 will do just have to get the bigger tank so not always looking for gas. that will be 3 bikes in my stable, but thinking about a nice light one for fooling around on going over objects and up steep inclines but want to be able to go on the road a bit as well of all I looked at thinking the DR 200 if I can find a good used one, might have to change the sprockets for a little more low speed power.
Awesome trails, you guys are great riders. Thanks for sharing.
Sit down wheelies are way more comfortable to me. Trying to wheelie while standing seems scary as shit
It's amazing what a difference a few hundred pounds (or 90.6 kgs? ) make! I've made a ton of progress cross training on my trials bike, but the first time I tried logs on the XR650, I was right back to gumby mode. The techniques I've learned on the little bike do help on the big one, but the transition is a bit jarring!
+gravityisnotmyfriend damn that's a huge leap! i found transferring techniques from the RR300 to the DR650 a massive jump, let a long a trials bike to an XR. :D
Wow thats an amazing vlog
+GoPro Man cheers, GM. i've been a bit surprised it's taken off when we are just old fellas in our 50s trying to learn a few things before the bodies cave in too much lol
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“It wheelies as well as I remember it did” 😀🇦🇺✌️
That was a weird experience, Peter. It was actually my very first wheelie on a DR650 after many years and I wasn't expecting to pull that one off lol.
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I love this video and this motorcycle!!!!!!!!!
bushpig with lipstick ha, reminds me of my ex hahaha no just kidding :P
+MotoGanove lol when i mentioned that i was wondering if anyone would make the connnection with our rough n ready aussie girls :)
Yes you CAN put lipstick on a pig!
But it’s still a pig.
I would hate to see the DR650 lose its status as a pig. 😁
Damn, I was already subscribed to that channel.
It is a sports tractor 😍
Really not much heavier than my Chinese hawk 250... Might have to sell it and get one of these lol. That hawk leaves me wanting a little more quality and top speed.
looking forward to that series!
Why is it that those DRs are so big in australia, no XL/XR/NXs?
XT/TTs or KLXs?
+nomslaw yep, that's pretty much the case. the KLR is better if you are doing more road miles, but the DR is a far way ahead if mostly doing dirt.... once you fix the suspension and tyres of course.
I see.
I would guess a xt/xl would be similar, but I guess they are no longer sold.
Wow I miss my 93 dr idk why I bought a 600 silver wing I crashed it now buying a dr 650 so fun
that bike is so cool. i'll give you change tires out for sure. but i'll never ride like you in the southern nevada desert. that place looks great! good video.
spoke to the guys at FFRC just last week regarding a new DR650 to me. Couldn’t get better information and nicer guys to have a chat with. Went with FFRC after seeing the 50 ft jump a DR650 did after being sorted out with their ‘plex valve and upgraded springs, and magic to the rear shock’.
was that the old owners of FFRC or the new owner, wyatt? the guys tell me wyatt is a real suspension guru but i haven't met him yet.
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO however it was last week being end of July 2010 - ..Missed his name, but all i can say is really impressed with the information and cant wait to purchase. Unbiased - dont know the guy personally at all.
the previous owners were truly amazing. no matter how busy they were, they would always stop to chat with customers, help them load their bikes... even turn away business sometimes, saying "you already have great suspension and you'd be wasting your money". a role model for any business to follow.
Oh yeah!
Things just got interesting!
Can't wait to see your beauty tips.
Do you already have an adventure planned for this bike?
+Salex lots of one day adventure rides but will have to see if the old crew will dust their bikes off for a few longer trips :)
I am getting a 2020 dr650 next week thanks to this channel. I cant wait!
Have fun!
@@crosstrainingenduro Thanks to my aussie brothers all the way from Canada😎
When you see that this was 6 years ago, back when real life or something like it was a thing :(
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Nice looking country you have there.
Beautiful private property. About 150 acres on the side of a mountain range.
As a fellow Bush Pig owner, I look forward to the make over!
+Tomosan you have already enjoyed the pleasure of the beast tomosan, and no doubt the sheer fear of twisting that throttle and being launched who knows where at warp speed :)
Lurking through old vids😆
sooo... secret garden project is back? I am definetly looking forward. Good luck on makeover :)
+Adam Hraško yes, i'll have to dust off the old channel, so much of the footage on there looks like rubbish now lol! older gopro cameras, poor editing, poor videography....
Is the suspension really that bad?
Hard to say, Jack. If you weigh under 95kg and just ride it gently then it's not really a problem.... just be prepared for the nose dive under emergency braking. But the moment you push the bike hard and/or you are significantly over 95kg you hit the limitations pretty quickly.
I have a brand new dr650 and I agree the suspension is way to soft cant ever hook up on the tires either.......
Thank u
u say bush pig but to a new rider who hasn't grown up on 400cc or 2strokes smokers who knows no different this is the bike im looking at getting and its a smaller frame then the drz400 too for shorter riders
+Gummy Bear yep, it's a very flexible bike. good commuter, learners bike, brilliant adv bike with the right mods...
Besides the obvious price difference between the KTM 690, and the DR what made you want to go with the "bush pig" over the zesty orange bike of the gods?
+Chris Boerstra both bikes need similar mods to get them set up nicely but the DR is close half the price once you've done it. the big pumpkin? i didn't like the gearbox, suspension, engine, exhaust, ergonomics for starters on a 2009 model, don't know if those things improved or not. what annoyed me was spending so much then having to spend a pile more to get the engine and suspension working properly so i just sold it... later models may have fixed the issues though? i did a more in depth report here: ktm-690r-test-review-problems.blogspot.com.au/
Can you add aftermarket ABS brakes to the DR? I had abs on last bike that saved me and my niece after a wallaby jumped right out in front of me, so I’m not really interested in any bike that doesn’t use abs. Thanks, loving your content!
I reckon it would be crazy expensive, Bret. The recent KLR650 models now have ABS, but they are a fair bit heavier. Still well priced though!
Quotable quote: ''This is ridiculous'' 2.16 min. You come from a perfect italian princess, always ready to give it all, and switch to a fat old lady with a bad attitude! What did you expect?Her dress may be new but underneath is the same old manners... Just kidding. Excellent video, as always. :)
+Wide000 lol i did tell myself not expect too much until the suspension is fixed! they go hard in the dirt though once that is done, and a fine pair of new shoes!
um, Barry? i'm noticing that all the comment on this video are, like, only minutes old, when i expected them to be years old since it was about the bush pig DR. Hey, are you back on a DR650 again? What happened to the Itialian Princessa? Are you going to go all apeshit on a DR as a way of proving that you can also be a fucking baddass on a 120kg bike again? Cause if you are, I'm fucking stoked!! Cheers Mate!
+65elcamino283 gonna be a sloppyass, the way the DR was jumping around lol! planned to take a year of adventure riding to really try to nail some of those cross training skills down, figured it was time to do both types of riding again which should be fun. still got the RR300 of course, but going to see if i could afford an upgrade to the xtrainer, woohoo!
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES oh gawdammit! this is going to be entertaining! You'll get her dialed in on the suspension and tires i'm sure. I havent gotten my suspension done yet, but i know that when i do, it's going to change my pig for the better, and that can be quite formidable in the right hands. Hey, that you can freshly do pivot turns on that thing is something, i'll tell you. holy shit that bike is heavy.
+65elcamino283 yeah, i said a few hail marys or hail buddhas before each pivot turn :)
i know what you are really doing though... it's a common thing among athletes, you train with heavier weights, and under more grueling conditions, so that during competition, you are actually feeling at ease.... yeah, train with the bush pig DR, and go back to the Beta a superhero.... :-)
+65elcamino283 ah that's what i'm doing... good to know, i just thought i had a death wish.
I can't wait to see the results of the suspension work, I picked up an 09 model recently and have been looking into suspension options as I'm hoping to do the Simpson Desert next year. I was thinking of going with the Teknik Stage 1 option but will now wait to see your opinion of what FFRC come up with.
Also thanks for the Vids, my son and I both love them and i beleive our riding has improved as a result.
As for the Lipstick on the Pig, don't stop there, get some Victoria Secrets wings and lingerie for that Fat Bottomed Girl!!
+Motahead 70 i'm curious too, motahead. james at FFRC actually designs stuff from the ground up. i think the rear will just get custom valving, but i think he's looking at fork caps with attached internals that will just drop in but provide adjustable rebound and compression damping... how sweet would that be?!
That sound pretty damn good to me and even better if they don't require a testicle as down payment. If you think she handles like a pig now, throw on a full 20 litre Acerbis tank and take it for a blast. Makes for an interesting ride indeed.
HA! You get a thumbs up just for the disclaimer!! :-P
The big glaring question is why the heck did you buy a new DR? don't you already have one? and why not a second hand one that has had some love, instead of the "/sigh another day at the factory building the same shit for 20 years" treatment the factory workers give it
+Aidan Gillett coz the suspension crew, FFRC, bought it to design some new suspension components and then asked if i'd like to ride it for a few months to do a video series. i ain't looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Forgive the garish graphics but my old (2010) DR was a sweet handler apart from the weight. The trick was KTM forks and triple clamps which bolt straight in and just need a 10 mm spacer (and KTM wheel of course). I also used a mid 90's KTM Ohlins rear shock and had it rebuilt, resprung and a new reservoir to suit the DR. i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z430/bingl/DR650EXCwithOhlins008.jpg
+Bing O that would transform it, bing. it's a wonder they don't just mod some DRZ suspension components for the old girl, or even RMZ, and just bump up the price another $100 or whatever their cost price would be.
Hmm this vid makes me thing about you would ride your Husaberg Fe 570 nowadays,
if you can handle such an oil tanker so well out in the woods...
It was such a handsome and brilliant bike :`(
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But all in all that DR650 series sounds interesting and
I am really looking forward this videos! :D
+DerUnbbekante i was just thinking about the old 570 yesterday, and what a brilliant ultra light weight adventure bike it was. i would love to have kept it if i could afford several bikes. :( i still see it occasionally out on the trail with its happy new owner...
I am very excited about this. do you think you could get some in depth info/footage of the suspension upgrades. I recently got a 2000 dr650 se and really want to dial in the stock suspension. I love your videos and you make the DR look like a competitive machine in the woods. I look forward to this series.
+Beyond2Wheels i did up a site ages ago, it has a link to a suspension page that i put a lot of info into about suspension options. but these FFRC guys are going to design something totally new which should be very interesting! dr650-mods-reviews-tips.sportsontheweb.net/
I just bought a new DR650 too. Well its been a couple of months. I have upgraded rear spring and front fork springs. I have done quite a few other mods too. Check out my channel if you wish. I really enjoy your videos. They are making me a better rider. I still cant manage to do a wheelie on my DR though. LOL Even though I have watched your wheelie videos on another channel I can't get it up. Thanks for everything.
Yes! Everything about this is awesome! Now I want to go try a pivot turn on my pig as well (spoilers: it won't end well)
+BBQ Rider they are SO bloody heavy! as you can see in the vid i almost got crushed under mine... but damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead and i hope to one day do a 360 pivot turn on the big bush pig!
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Yes they are bloody awful heavy, and the suspension is crap. I don't even know why we ride them. Maybe us DR riders are a bit masochistic?
Hey man who do you recommend anyone for DR650 suspension work in the USA? I know that may sound like a stupid question but it seems you are the DR guru
no idea in the USA, tim. it might be worth looking at the plex valves from FFRC here in oz if the shipping doesn't inflate the price too much.
Can't wait to see some ADV's from you guys again.
+DownUnderDualSport yeah it was good to take a year off but looking forward to getting back into it again!
Could you please tell me what stabilization software your using and camera?? This dirt bike video is the smoothest I've seen.
+Z Shark thanks z shark. i try to avoid using the software as a rule. this is mostly due to the superview mode, explained it in this vid: ua-cam.com/video/ck8G-bVuRqY/v-deo.html
Thanks for the reply.. I'll try the superview next time out :)
You import guys love these Enduros
I look forward to this series. I'm with team yellow and i'm looking for a "lightweight" adv bike and like modding inappropriate bikes.
+jonno85uk 'light weight' is all relative isn't it? personally i think that bikes like the DR650 and ktm 690 are the lightest 'true' adventure bikes e.g. that can chug along at relatively low revs at highway speeds all day if needed and weigh around 140-145kg dry.
but many scale down to the DRZ400, and even the four stroke 250s. and in australia where adventure rides are often on rough single track, many of us adventurize enduro bikes like the WR450F.
good tip about the bottle 2 stroke oil!...I'll certainly be doing that on my future rides..!
woohoo welcome back brother
+Rex4x4 thanks rex, the adventure channel has been a bit neglected the past year :)
Brilliant vid mate I enjoyed that!
+Scott Merchant thanks scott, definitely a fun ride except for the front wheel washing out and frame rails hitting the ground off jumps!
Makes me miss my old 650! Poor thing took whatever abuse you could throw at it. I hit a jump going way too fast once (was new to riding and wanted to hit it motocross style..) the bike got about 6 feet of air on a really steep jump, I panicked and closed the throttle and it nosedived HARD. Managed to stay on on the bike and not fall, checked the forks and they were fine and kept riding!
+Sruikyl yep, being bulletproof is a good side effect of all that weight!
WOOO HOOO Bringing back the DR =D, great to see mate! It will be good to see more from that channel (from a pateron supporter)
i think you'll like the 'supporter only' vids coming up then... quite a few DR ones being cooked up. :)
I put RMZ450 forks and an Elka rear shock on my DR650. Made a world of difference, but you're still a better rider than me on a stock DR!
+Vinnie Oskierko i know lots of guys go the RMZ forks, or DRZ as a second best option...
My kinda guy! Nice bike nice wrist action
Jesus Christ, those are black Diamond trails! You are riding a bike made for light trails like a full on dirt bike! ;D The tires and suspension are just fine for roads or LIGHT TRAILS, like fire roads. Not trails with heavy ravines cutting through and boulders sticking up! BTW, the seat on my DR 650 is like a steel board and after just 2 miles, reduces my ass to tears.
DR seats are shockers... the procycle seat was way more comfortable. most of the way into the project now and the DR is a transformed bike!
Oh, if Mr. Suzuki would just watch and learn....
why is this unlisted? i got lucky when i found it. Can you give me the links to the following vids where you mod your DR like you mention in this video? Howdy Barry!
-Senor Camino
+65elcamino283 como estas senor c? sneaky, sneaky, i wasn't going to make it public till tomorrow. :D that series won't start for a few weeks probably, but if you are subscribed to that old adventure channel then you should get the alerts when it starts. hopefully. or maybe you'll regret it. could be even trashier than the cross training drivel lol!
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES haha hell yeah! Looking forward to this!
Seems FFR are not around anymore, No one seems to be able to contact them. Just when I'm about to do a suspension upgrade. The Dr's are on the lighter side of adventure bikes that's why I got 1. But nothing is light when you have to pick it up from its side.
They are back in business now, but it looks as though the new guys are also new to suspension tuning sohave a steep learning curve ahead of them. I'd suggest getting the Plex valves there but possibly get the rear shock done elsewhere until we hear they are doing a good job?
@@crosstrainingenduro Thank you for the heads up. BTW I enjoy your vids. Well Done
@Cross Training Enduro so, ive noticed a couple of things about my DR. it has a digital dash where every other DR ive seen just has a round speedo. it's also a 6 speed instead of a 5 speed. problem is if i google 1998 DR250rx i cant find the bike or any information about it. any ideas/info/links? cheers.
The Japanese almost always seemed to put six speed boxes in their 250s but neglected the bigger bikes. 😢
seems like they forgot to give it them the digital dash too.
Hey there Barry. I just upgraded my front end with Cogent .58 springs, and Cogent DDC's. I haven't had a chance to go ride yet, but i'm counting the hours till Saturday morning when i will. What are your plans for the front of the BushPig?
+65elcamino283 all sorts of things, the FFRC guys design suspension components from the ground up so they'll experiment in several stages... should be really interesting to see what they come up with. they'll at least make their own emulators then try to move on from there i suspect.
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES damn! I'm imagining all sorts of things now with your enigmatic reply.... from a dinosaur wearing a bionic suit like Matt Damon wore in the movie Elysium, to bamboo and rubber-bands.... all sorts of options with suspension this old.... :-)
I'm shocked, gobsmacked,horrified, words cannot express, why god why, lord please forgive thy Barry, he's not running a dairy farm, he's suffering from fever, possible sleep disorders, maby he needs a snickers, I just don't understand, breathing, breathing, breathing, ok, I'll send you a milk crate so you can put it on the back, but it's not to be used for a paper run, carrying cold alcoholic beverages only!!!
+mad benny a milk crate, what a cool idea! the more it looks like a postie bike the better lol!
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES farm bike, postie bikes are still cool, cattle rustler!
Is the DR a lot harder to pickup than the KTM 690?
It's just a few kg heavier so maybe...
Had a 93 KLR and then several street bikes. Retired and went back to a DS, but this time a 2021 DR. They are a good time. Do you guys delete the upper chain rollers?
I didn't take the roller off my first two DRs, Pat. I did on the third. But I've left it on the current one. I hear about guys breaking them off but never had it happen myself.
@@crosstrainingenduro thanks for the info
Great job freaking awsome area to ride in.
You Bag it out but it's still a very capable bike in stock form.. I'm on my 3rd in 25 years and never felt the need to do any mods other then a $17 muffler upgrade of a mini moke. . I ride with a bunch of blokes on Euro trash bikes (eg Huskys,KTM) Whom have all the fruit but yet can't seem to match the bush pig in the tight trails or sand. The right rider makes anything possible on a stock bike.
You certainly don't need to do the mods if you keep your expectations at a reasonable level. But we love how capable it does become with some basic work done. Love the idea of a Mini Moke exhaust! Did you rejet the DR to suit?
@@crosstrainingenduro no I did not rejet. I also run Avgas most of the time. It does pop on decel but I’m not overly concerned about that. I was thinking of trading it in to buy a klx450r but after a hard rethink I’ve decided to try some of your mods suspension/ carby upgrade etc. I just don’t think I could sell it. And I love sticking it up the euro trash camp. I do really enjoy your vids.
The 'BST magic' mods for the stock carb are great in conjunction with an exhaust. Both will probably give around a 10% boost which might not sound like much but it really makes a difference.
Oh yeah baby! Glad to see you came back to your senses ;) We are already subscribed of course and will be following the progress on your DR650! Love that bike, and you can handle it well! Your slow riding has been paying off haha. Looking forward to more footage *T4S*
+Sum4Seb it's paid off in some respects at least, sum4seb. was a bit surprised to find myself balancing at a standstill quite a bit, something i'd never been able to do on a DR. :)
Just found this amazing video, then saw its 7 years old 😊!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dear Barry
I am absolutely in love with this bike.
And you are guilty of this ...!
;-)
I like this concept very much. Its a modern XR600.
Air-oil cooling, carburetor, chassis ... simple classic bike but with modern suspension and brakes.
Very effective.
And... with devastating engine
She will never leave you or give you problems.
It's THE BIKE...!
But ... in Spain (and Europe, I think) is out of order.
Very sad.
Maybe some day...
Thanks a ton for your time, Bro...!
;-))))
watch out with those mirrors, you could easily set on fire the wood with them...
+Oxide333500 lol on the second ride i flipped them around and i think they acted as aerofoils to keep the front whee down.
nice one man keen to follow the build up!
where do ya get the 100ml bottles from?
+ramsrider14 you'd have to ask aidan gillett that, it was his suggestion.
love seeing you back on the DR. hopefully you'll be making plenty of vids on the upgrades. I got my front and rear done at MPE and it made a fuck ton of difference. mind you, i'm no lightweight myself, so it needed it more than you light blokes. its also clear that your time on the beta has made you a much better rider. for a stock DR650 you make it look pretty easy, especially on deathwings.
+SuperOrcy thanks superorcy, MPE did the suspension on my last bushpig. but FFRC have some cunning plans up their sleeves which should be very interesting....
güle güle kullan (ride it smiling)...
+hobidolap çok büyük bir gülümseme !
this is gonna be good! subbed.
yes you can put lipstick on a pig and she comes out very pretty indeed.
mine had Rikor intiminators up front and a procycle shock shaft rebuild on the back. well worth it. also running IRC TR8 on front wheel and Mitas E07 on the back for general ADV touring. happy so far.
tons of other farkels well also be necessary. yup. G'luck.
+David Lipschitz the suspension mods alone make a huge difference hey david? i'm really surprised suzuki doesn't do some very basic mods that would cost very little to fix some of these issues... but i guess the accountants have more sway nowadays than anyone in the company who might still ride bikes and have the passion. :(
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES
sad but true, I believe that 2016 is 20th year that the mighty DR had been produced, unchanged! On the other hand there is a fantastic after-market parts and farkles market and you can make the DR into just about anything you like. It could be a great tho heavy woods bike, I love mine as an adventure tourer and Jeff at pc made a crazy, fire breathing 900 street bike.
it really is a brilliant platform. or a template. Be bold, be creative and make it yours.
+David Lipschitz that is a very cool summary david... "it really is a brilliant platform. or a template. Be bold, be creative and make it yours." :D
Cant believe you sold your DR in the first place! haha. You should swap the RMZ450 forks onto it.
Also, I can only afford to own a DR but I know I should be learning to ride off road via an actual dirt bike or trials bike. Do you have any advice on learning to ride offroad when youre limited like this? Thanks.
+Stephen the FFRC suspension guys are thinking of inventing some inserts combined with fork caps that will give adjustable damping both ways on the forks - how good would that be?! re: learning dirt techniques on the bushpig, i'll probably start a training series exactly on that topic in the next few months on the other channel. :) for the time being though, all the basic techniques on the website will be doable on the DR: crosstrainingenduro.com/cross-training-enduro-techniques.htm
That sounds great, I'll keep an eye on this series and their developments. The suspension is the only important thing I've left stock on my DR (ironic because its the single worst thing about the bike), but I think I'm about to get a Cogent Dynamics shock for the rear, and possibly their products for the front end or the full RMZ swap. Anyway, thank you for the link I'll absorb those videos and keep pushing my limits.
+Stephen i just had mine revalved at the rear, then emulators at the front, and new springs all round. transformed it of course. looking forward to FFRC's mods though, these guys are actually suspension designers and will probably come up with something new and amazing. if you are looking at budget options i provided a few in this link years ago: dr650.wikia.com/wiki/Suspension
Does this mean you wont be getting a shiny new beta 500 rs?
+Liquid Flame i do have one of those in mind for a permanent light weight adventure bike in the long term...