In Defense of Doom 3
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- This is a video retrospective of Doom 3 and its two expansions, Resurrection of Evil and Lost Mission. It goes back and looks at what made Doom 3 special, as an individual horror shooter and as part of the broader Doom franchise.
_TABLE OF CONTENTS_
Doom 3-- 0:34
Resurrection of Evil-- 17:20
Lost Mission-- 25:45
_MORE ABOUT DOOM_
Errant Signal on Doom:
• Errant Signal - DOOM
XBoxAhoy's Retrospective on Doom:
• RetroAhoy: Doom
Lost Mission Reused Content Comparison:
• Doom 3: The Lost Missi...
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Well, I love this game. I just started with the Doom franchise. I'm 65! I love love love the new Doom (2016) so that took me into these earlier Doom's. Very impressive franchise. I'm hooked. Thanks for the video.
You're one year younger than my Mom.😊
Can't wait for doom eternal looks like a dream come true!
Bullshit
Keanu Beaves no Keanu.
On damn, my father is around your age and I wish I could get him to play with me. Were you playing other first person shooters before?
"Most Innovative Lighting" is about as memorable an award in gaming as "Most Influential Cameraman" in film, lol. They'll never get the credit they're due, but the positive advancements they've led us to are irreplaceable.
I dunno man, I’ve been around since the original shareware doom and wolfenstein games. I used to play them with my dad. I think anyone who knows even a small bit of gaming history understand and respect everything ID has done with software since the original days. Their rules engines are always top tier.
The best thing Doom 3 did for me was making it feel like I was actually on a space station.
@JEDIMASTERZAK I'd say Doom 2016 is pretty realistic if you realize that the slayer is just a sentient demon who only wants to mutilate and torture other demons. Satan (Samur Makyr) gave him his powers after all.
@Luka Godec same man same.
@@stateofopportunity1286 the game felt cartoony rather than realism.
@@stateofopportunity1286 the new story is garbage I expected from some nickelodeon show. Doom 3 did it way better. And didnt turn Satan into some weird aliens
@@stateofopportunity1286 the game play of the New Dooms seems off to me. I still prefer the originals. Problem with Doom 2016 is that you enter a room, enemies spawn, you fight, rinse and repeat. I also don't like the excessiveness and focus on glory kills. Doom 1 and 2 had a strategic nature. I liked the large levels, enemies scattered everywhere requiring strategy, etc. Want a great example, play Doom 2 level 9-20. The enemy placement, strategy involved to defeat them, and the combat focus was very nice. Doom 3 is great but different (haunted house type game). Doom 4 is just spawn and fight. There is some strategy here and there in Doom 4 but it doesn't match the originals.
Kinda disappointed that you failed to mention Doom 3's great sound design. It's one of the prime examples for awesome horror sound design in video games in my eyes.
+Mao Tsedude The sound design is actually really bad. It's cheesy. It sounds like a stereotypical horror movie. There's nothing unique about it that stands out.
+HowAbout NoSon I agree and disagree. The level sounds are great, and make the place feel alive. The actual sound design of the enemies and most weapons is shit. Too bad Trent Reznor quit during development. The sounds he created were awesome.
+HowAbout NoSon It's not so unified for that to be an assertment that's true, and that in and of itself is a huge problem. That being said, a lot of it is genuinely good. The atmospheric/ musical foley is unique and really hasn't been done before or since as effectively. At the same time, a ton of the sounds were slapped together because the stuff Trent Reznor was working on had to be scrapped near the end of production because of some contractual bullshit.
+Digital Intent
You don't undertand. It's the technical aspect that it's incredible. The way it moves in space on a 5.1 setup. The subtle aspects of it. Did you know that EVERY monster has its specific spund when it spots you, the player, when it's hurt by you and when it dies ? Three different sounds for every monster. You can know them without looking, just by sound. And all the scratches and sinister, torturous sounds going randomly throughout the game. Magnificient, the sound was one of the main strngths of the game
+Mao Tsedude Agreed completely. Though the voice acting and dialogue is awful (very b-movie), the sound effects and how they're used is stellar. Definitely something to appreciate about the game.
I'm glad that people besides me are still willing to defend Doom3. It's one of my all time favorite games and by far favorite Doom title. I know that seems odd to say, but Doom3 is what got me into being a horror gamer to begin with. Heck, I still play it to this day every time I get the chance because I love the atmosphere and how it told the story behind it. I also agree that BFG ruined the flashlight by making it a shoulder light. Part of what made Doom3 work in the earlier areas was how you had to choose between visibility and being able to fight back. You have to memorize where opponents are or wait for them to light up their own attacks so that you can fire back at them. I loved every aspect of Doom3 from story telling to atmosphere to combat to level design. Allthough there are some things I wished they would have concluded like the guy in alpha labs that transmits to you on a low band frequency, but you take what you can get I guess.
I agree with you on everything there. Although the fun story is that the guy in the alpha labs who tries to contact you does actually get resolved in the Xbox port - when you find the secret area in the PC version where he contacts you for the last time, he's nowhere to be found; only an imp and a load of barrels. But in the Xbox version, you find him in the same secret area being eaten by the imp in which on alerted he will get up as a zombie to fight alongside the imp. The Xbox version has a lot of really cool additions that weren't in the PC version, one of my favourites being the ghost in delta labs and of course the built-in coop mode.
It's really telling how lazy the BFG Edition truly was when it was just a straight port of the PC version with none of the great elements added in the Xbox port. Although the Xbox version of Resurrection of Evil is literally identical to its PC counterpart, shame it didn't have the coop.
I guess I'll have to play through the xbox version again to make sure of that because I don't actually recall there being an answer to the low band frequency guy, I do remember there was the one guy that you could hear talking to someone through a wall and he was being told to stay there before getting attacked by a demon. As for ghosts, I don't recall if Delta had a ghost, but I do remember Alpha Labs 4 having the "follow me" ghost that was a really cool effect in the game. That was on the PC version too. Of course BFG edition ruined the effect of it by taking away the bloody footprints that lead you down that hall, one of my favorite parts in that game. I'm a big enough dork in love with Doom3 that I own every version of the game that was ever released and it's worth it.
We Review Everything! It really is worth it especially with how novel and great a port the Xbox version is (It is a shame that a lot of the big, open sections are missing though, like the reactor core and parts of enpro) and I love the "follow me" and "over here" sections - they're really awesome horror set pieces that do an excellent job at allowing the player to slow down and soak in the atmosphere even more. When you replay the Xbox version, you'll know the delta labs ghost when you see it - it's an amazing set piece and really damn creepy :) I need to replay it myself at some point, the last time I gave the Xbox version a go was back in 2009, would be great to revisit.
Doom 3 is a Masterpiece
Oh, wait. Are you talking about the ghost in Delta that talks to you before you fight Sarge? He's all whispering like "Sarge is going to kill you". I'd completely forgotten about him!
Doom 3 was a good game
IS a good game
Onur Yilmaz
I didn't say all that shit...
Doom 3 and Quake 4 were really shafted. People wanted old school without allowing for new games to have ideas.
Once you realise that Doom 3 is a very different game from Doom and Doom 2, you will realise it's a really well made shooter.
Great video!
"This is your P.D.A., 'Personal Data Assistant'. It's important, so don't lose it!"
Out of all Doom games, Doom 3 is the most challenging one. I would still call this a Doom game because the Task is the same as the Original ones, Kill Demons, and stop the Invasion! and we all know that those words are also the main definition of Doom. so yeah this is still a Doom game, but with a bit of a horror tone!
I think of it as the spiritual successor to Doom 64 which was actually praised for doing all the same shit as Doom 3. It was more horror oriented, there were fewer enemies than older Doom games, it was Darker than its predecessors and very focused on puzzle solving gameplay like that of Survival Horror staples Resident Evil and Silent Hill. People praised and still praise Aubry Hodges for his soundtrack and Doom 64 for daring to be different than its action oriented predecessors. So it still puzzles me how people can hate Doom 3 and love Doom 64 when they're practically the same game in different time periods. Personally I grew up with PSX Doom, Doom 64 and Resident Evil so I always thought Doom was supposed to be more of a horror game. Plus Even Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 had their claustrophobic, dark hallways. Something Doom 2016 lacks. Now i don't hate Doom 2016. In fact I love it for returning to its roots. I just also happen to love the horror aspect of Doom as well. Sometimes even more so than the action depending on how I'm feeling that day.
I mean just look at all the horror mods for the original doom. Horror Converter, Ghouls Forrest, Lasting Light, The Cabin, Doom 64 Absolution TC, FNAF Doom. People really like the Idea of doom being a horror game. So I think Doom 3 is a very important staple of the series.
Mr. Doggy Meaty
Doom 3 the most challenging? You not played final doom?
Doom 3 is an ass easy game, with or without comparison to the first two.
@Fat Pie I would but the game won't let me on a first playthrough. Plus, similar to the other Doom's nightmare difficulties, that's meant to be bullshit, artificial difficult. I'm talking about Veteran, which is the Ultra-Violence/hardest fair difficulty.
Final doom tho...
Doom 3 still holds a spot in my top 10 games I've ever played. Thanks for this video.
Doom 3 is actually an excellent game. It gives me too much anxiety for me to say it's truly fun in the same way that Doom Eternal is, but it's a roller coaster experience. Tight shooter in corridors so narrow it's hard to believe you can even dodge a fireball. Incredibly distressing sound design and the buildup of tension through story elements like the audio logs are both top notch.
It's my fav game.
You can feel the atmosphere, horror, sounds, claustrophobia...
Dead space and later Sci fi and horror games were heavily inspired from this
Doom 3 is such an underrated game. The old school hipsters need to take off their nostalgia goggles to truly appreciate this game.
Well. the old school hipsters are now appreciating DOOM 3 and hating DOOM 4, lol...wot? i dont understand pple...
when DOOM 5 will come in, people will praise DOOM 4
Not true .. I'd call myself an old Doom fan (486 represent!) and I liked D3 when it came out. Could have done without the "demon spawns in right behind you" one too many times, but it was atmospheric.
Not a fan of D4 though ... it looks good, but feels kinda gimmick-y (powerups plopping out from dead enemies, etc).
R1ddic that’s not actually how the new doom plays. Power ups work like in Doom 2, the only thing enemies drop is health and, if you use the chainsaw; ammo. I’d very much encourage playing it. It’s the best Doom game, even better than Hell on Earth
Game hold an 87% approval rating on Metacritic. Would hardly call that underrated.
R1ddic Dude you need to play doom 2016. It did to doom what fury road did to mad max
In 2004, I hated how I had to switch to the flashlight and couldn't shoot anything with it. In 2022, I really appreciate the game design philosophy around it and wouldn't want to change it today. It was a very deliberate decision made for very specific reasons, and I respect that.
Doom 3 was so scary, I had to quick save at every corner I had to turn. In terms of horror, Doom 3 really knocks it off the table
Also I agree on the flashlight, I thought it was a great idea and I don't understand why everyone else was so annoyed with the flashlight. Like I said, the game is the embodiment of living inside of a horror movie, and that idea wouldn't be complete without some sort of weakening of the player. Given how big and powerful the player's arsenal is, that one minor trade-off made all the difference in the world toward making it feel like horror. It doesn't make it "scary" necessarily, but it makes it more of a high tension experience, being forced to switch back and forth between it in order to see what's going on and be able to engage in the combat. People don't complain about Amnesia's bullshit lantern oil inventory gameplay element, they actually praise that kind of thing as adding to the horror, so I really don't get where everyone was coming from with the flashlight being a drawback to Doom 3.
+BassbaitGG Wow, great point about Amnesia!
+BassbaitGG true I agree about the swapping flashlights, but since theres a high military presense on mars what ever happend to tactical light attachments and weapon rails?
4T3hM4kr0n!
what ever happened to just lighting hallways properly? But really, I don't care so much about that when talking about a game. Doom 3 doesn't hold itself to a standard of realism so I don't expect it. I just want the game to play well and Doom 3 does that excellently.
4T3hM4kr0n! Or good ol' fashion duck tape.
CJ Ware
oh hell not that mod! the cone of light was too dang small.
Doom 3 is something you had to be there to truly understand. First of all, I was 2 years old when I played the first Doom. The jump in graphics was mind-blowing at the time when Doom 3 came out, like it was one of the biggest experiences of my life when it comes to games, seeing such a leap forward in graphics. I was what, 11? Or about that age. I'm the biggest Doom fan around and Doom 3 was an experience like no other when you're that age.
However, as I grow older, I appreciate it on a different level - it's essentially the closest a game has ever gotten to "living inside a horror movie". And I mean that for better or worse. Despite lots of cheesiness and cheapness in the horror elements, the game has an atmosphere that makes you feel like you're inside of a movie similar to The Thing, or Alien, or a sci-fi horror movie of that type. It's the quietest moments of the game that impress me the most, the times between monsters, when things get "dull". Overall the game is really fucking good and while not as good as Doom 1 or 2 overall, definitely does not deserve a reputation as being a "bad game" or even a "disappointment".
I couldn't even wait 3 minutes to start talking about this lol, I could talk about Doom forever. I actually had planned to do a retrospective that would contain Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom, Master Levels for Doom 2, Doom 64, Doom 3, ROE, and the Lost Mission, but I abandoned the idea because of depression and ADHD fucking over my ability to concentrate long enough to get it done.
I had even tracked down and bought a physical copy of Doom 64 for it, but I can't exactly call that a "waste" because I'm still happy to own it either way.
+BassbaitGG Read your 1st paragraph and totally agree. Im 19 and when I played Doom 3 it was like you said, playing a horror movie.. The whole slow start and making you go to a desolate part of the station... Man I loved it... No goddamn duck tape tho. Lol
+BassbaitGG Also the computer like terminals were new and very cool to me.. Also the arcade games.
+BassbaitGG What the Lost Mission?
CJ Ware
he talks about it later in the video. It's a piece of Doom 3 that was cut out, and later included as a separate piece for Doom 3's BFG edition. I haven't played through it myself yet lol, so I have no idea how good it is.
BassbaitGG Oh, ok, I haven't seen it or played it either.
Doom 3 was amazing, good to see other people feel the same way
Doom 3's archvile is definitely my favorite Doom enemy ever
Not to mention terrifying as an 11 year old kid playing it.. golden memories
It’s absolutely the best Archvile design, and its red, mutated hands are the cherry on top. Doom: Eternal’s Archvile is way too over-designed.
@@BlueOysterStan And the sounds it makes are the most terrifying
I appreciate the bit of lip service paid to Bertruger. He’s easily my favorite DOOM “character” for how deliciously evil he is. His dialog in his introductory cutscene lives rent free in my head: “The board authorized you? The board doesn’t know the first thing about science! All they want is something to make them more money, some “product”! Don’t worry…they’ll GET their product…”
"Your SOUL will BURN IN HELL FOREVER!"
While I did enjoy Doom 2016, Doom 3 is still superior with it's dark atmosphere, story development, cutscenes, and better exploration. I was disappointed that it never had a sequel that continued in that direction, because I really liked the horror style gameplay which made the game more immersive.
Doom 2016 wasn't about that at all tho.
doom 3 is distinctly subpar compared to Doom 2016
@@twist3d537 overpar*
Doom 3 is a piece of shit in my honest opinion. It doesn't hold a muzzleflash to the original nor the new DooM.
@@Zeithri Good thing your opinion is literal trash
There's worse ways to cap off a Sunday than with a nice half hour video game analysis. :)
It never occurred to me before Doom and Half-Life have basically the same plot.
Multinational corporation seeking profit allows shady characters to do even shadier things with its cash and resources?
Sounds like life.
I really enjoyed the first Prey. It was a lot like Doom. Crazy weapons, creepy levels, scenes of distorted reality, and even portals. Doom 3, Far Cry, and Fallout were all great I thought when they came out.
Prey was built on the Doom 3 engine, if I recall correctly.
@@stateofopportunity1286 it also did portals before portal.
I disagree vehemently about the Resurrection of Evil boss fight, it blows Doom 3's out of the water. The Cyberdemon fight, at the end of the day, is the player running around a circle and killing minor enemies. You can accomplish it with very weak weapons and I've done it. You don't take the Cyberdemon on directly. Whereas the Dragon guy is a big pain in the ass, dodging those fireball heads and attacks from the Demon. It's a great finale that the original was missing. As for the rest of the expansion, was ok.
Just started playing this game. At first I was thinking "wow this isn't as dark as everyone says, maybe my brightness is set wrong" and immediately walked into a pitch black room.
I agree the lighting is so good, it might be second only to Silent Hill 3
Nathan Eskin
Thomas Jones Yes?
I've been very interested in playing a Silent Hill game. If I started with the third, would I be missing anything?
Grim Piñata You should honestly start with Silent Hill 2. You won't be missing anything with that one, and it's the easiest. I recommend playing on normal difficulty.
Grim Piñata I say that because Silent Hill 3 is a follow up to Silent Hill 1's story. You might be a bit confused, and 2 has a better story anyway. I'd start with 1 or 2, but not 3.
It's funny, I really liked Doom 3 when it came out and as far as I can remember it was well received at the time by both the gaming press and the fans. I spent a lot of time in those days on Doom forums such as Doomworld and another one I can't remember (planetdoom? was that one?) and although there were some complaints here and there, I mostly remember an active and loyal fan community for Doom 3. I get the feeling that Doom 3 began to be seen in a more negative light as the cultural perception about Doom began to change. Sure Doom was always seen as a violent, gory, fast paced but have the impression that it got this crazy larger-than-life status mostly in the past 10 years, with stuff like Brutal Doom, youtube speedruns and also Doom memes (about the Doom comic for example). With Doom 3 they were trying to re-invent the game and do something new with the source material, although maybe not so succesfully. I loved Doom 2016 but with it, they are catering much more to the cultural perception about what Doom is.
Kind of in the same way as Star Wars: TFA was just recycling all the iconic stuff that everyone knows from the first Star Wars movie, and that has become such an itegral part of pop culture, but making them bigger, louder and flashier.
sergeantshroom Agree with you. They tried to copy Brutal Doom too much with the gore and people are saying Doom 2016 is what Doom is all about I have to laugh at that one. Glad I got to experience Doom, Doom 2, Doom 64 and Doom 3 back in the day.
While most FPS games rely on taking cover aim shoot, Doom 3 was about having a fast paced strategic game, each threat requires a different tactic and weapon, what is avail for one monster would get you killed with another, also forget the notion that your back is safe ! meaning you constantly checking 360°, sound serves a purpose indicating where the demons are coming from and what type they are, forming the right strategy and picking the suitable gun
All mixed with a horrific theme of doom, the game may start with a slow pace but later on and in reservation of evil speed becomes important, hidden items that can spawn more enemies will keep you at your toes at all time, it's all done bug free, smoothly, the atmosphere is one of kind
The combat was refreshing sometimes you better run, dodge, take cover or lure into a better location or trap (explosive barrel)
Doom 3 was 9.5 / 10 game for me
I've been playing DOOM³ again recently and think that this is a rare example for a game that is getting better while becoming older. I really think it's a masterpiece.
Doom 3 was amazing. Most people rag on it but didn't play it when it came out. There were actually three games that came out at that time. Far Cry, Doom 3, and Half Life 2. Before these games there was nothing like them. All games, even good games, had terrible graphic quality. I'm not going to say Doom 3 was the best, although it probably was, but all 3 of these games were great.
Halo 2 came out also right?
Metroid Prime 3 on Wii looked better then Doom 3.
@@trashaimgamer7822 3 years after doom 3 and prime 3 looks more cartoonish/ not nearly as good lighting
@@dominickbolieau9328 The art style is much more Timeless though.
Just realized 2004 was one of the best years in gaming. And one of the very few years I can remember from my childhood.
I remember being scared shitless in Doom 3's thick shadows. I remember being so immersed in Half-life 2's City 17 and astonished by the physics. I remember the freedom and the beautiful water in Far Cry. I remember MGS3 was the first game I was hyped about. One that I was following , reading every magazine preview and buying every disc that had a trailer of it.
One of the best games that I ever played.
Back in the day when we were discussing a good computer, the idea was simple: if your computer will run doom3 you have a good computer.
Haha. Yeah.. I was using a pentium 4 Windows xp...
I really like the recent resurgence of AAA old-school shooter. Between wolfenstein:tno and its expansion, the new doom and Unreal Tournament 4, things look pretty good for a genre that has been considered dead by publishers for almost a decade now.
+EverythingReviewer99 I Would say it classifies as old-school in the sense that it takes almost all the elements that make those games cool while also adding modern stuff on top. Which is great, because it means it moves the genre forward, while also keeping the original spirit.
There are a lot of solid indipendent and mid-tier FPS who kept the genre alive during the tougher years (Serious sam 3, Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior, Rise of the Triads, and so on), but i really hope this is the start of a new wave of '90 inspired fps, much in the way '90 rpgs came back from the grave in the last two years.
Even the new FPS/MOBA trend seems to integrate elements from the shooters of old, at least from what we've seen so far from Overwatch and Lawbreakers.
It's really nice to see a resurgence in old school shooters! Hopefully if the new Doom does really well both commercially and critically then we may see history repeat itself with games trying to outdoom Doom once again and it'll be great to see :) It'll be lovely getting more big budget old school FPS!
I'm curious as to why you maintain that _Doom 3's_ story is tongue-in-cheek; the only humor I ever managed to extract from the story was the semi-hidden text log near the end from the demons' point of view (which didn't stop it from being by far the single funniest text log I've ever read in a game, to be fair). Dr. Betruger may be ridiculous, but the game only ever seemed to be portraying him perfectly seriously despite the writing never earning as much, and the same goes for everything else in the story.
It's about intention more than it's about presentation. You can picture the developers just geeking out as they were designing these separate elements. Thats sort of the fun or tongue and cheekness he's referring too, I think.
It's more about the tongue and cheek vibe in it as a project, not so much as a game. If this were a movie, tongue and cheek would be the perfect way to describe.
See 8:41 in this video. ;)
The justification for chainsaws on Mars is rather self-referential and humorous.
I enjoyed being docked pay for punching turkeys all day long. That was funny.
I also appreciate that in Doom 3, most UAC employees on Mars are working stiffs collecting a paycheck and working on what they think is positive technology. It's an interesting counterpoint to Doom 2016, where most UAC employees are cultists ready to sacrifice their bodies, souls, and eternal torment for the birthing of a hellworld.
@@stateofopportunity1286 to be fair, that can be read as Comentary on the current state of Capitalism. Just look at the NFT Craze we only just now seem to be waking from, or Multi Level Marketing operations like Herbalife. I can very well see someone taking a corporate structure and transforming it into a cult that will "take them too the moon"
NFTs, especially in their communities (or at least the ones exposed by Dan Olson in his video on the subject) openly talk about their product being what is essentially a scam. Hoping that they'll be on the winning side of the "rug pull", only to find out that was also part of the scam and they've been swindled just as much as the true believers.
The textures and models may look very dated, but lighting in Doom 3 still looks pretty damn good to this day. I didn't play it when it released because I wasn't into PC gaming back then(I was still a young kid growing up on Playstation), but I remember seeing screenshots of it and footage on the internet and in game stores and having my mind blown at how good the graphics looked, and wondering why no games looked like that on my PS2 haha. I got around to playing the BFG edition when it released on PS3, still looked really damn good on the consoles, ran at 60FPS and everything. I enjoyed it but I don't think I'll ever play it again, even on PC.
+themarcshark the BFG edition actually has some lower quality assets and has dialed down the shadows a bit because the original assets and shadows were too much for the consoles (AFAIK mostly PS3) to handle and the PC version was a port of that :-P
+themarcshark It really isn't very good to this day. The shadows are harsh and artificial looking. The models are so low triangle count that there are a ton of shadow related glitches on them.
Looks pretty bad, actually.
The amusing thing is that the original Doom's actually aged better already.
+HowAbout NoSon Graphics don't matter to a true gamer ;)
AlexeiVoronin
Bullshit. Graphics do matter.
+HowAbout NoSon Not to a real gamer ;)
In my opinion Doom 3 was a fantastic game and it still is now. Just last week I finished replaying it again and I still enjoyed it just as much as when I played it when it first came out. I also played the new Doom and even though they're completely different games I enjoy both of them. Both just have their own pro's and cons:
- In Doom 3 you enter the facility while everything is still up and running. You walk around there and everything seems to fine. The are people everywhere. They're working or taking a break or just walking around. You can talk to them and sometimes they even start a conversation with you. It gives you this feeling of really being part of the company and it's a great build-up to the action that's awaiting you. Then a guy transforms into a demon right in front of your eyes and later on there are a few more moments where you actually see people being transformed into demons. Even after hell has already broken loose you'll still come across people who are hiding somewhere. It's a great way of showing how a place can suddenly transform into hell when shit hits the fan and how there will be people who're able to hide from the demons and keep themselves alive for a bit longer. I missed this in the new Doom. It's just demons and absolutely no interaction with any humans at all and of course no transformations. It's as if you're at a place where no human being has ever been before.
- For me the size of the maps in Doom 3 is just perfect. Nowadays everyone wants to show off by giving you insanely big maps, but I prefer smaller maps. To me the maps in the new Doom are too big. Also the map that's shown when pressing the Tab key is absolutely useless. There are outdoor areas and indoor areas consisting of several floors and when you press the Tab key you just see a big mess consisting of several layers. This map is just impossible to navigate. Doom 3 didn't even have any on-screen maps, but because of the size of the levels and great level design you didn't need one.
- The glory kills and the chainsaw in the new Doom are so brutal and absolutely amazing. The chainsaw in Doom 3 is quite useless. It does have unlimited fuel, but it's only useful against the weakest zombies that just walk around very slowly. Try to kill an Imp with it and it has already three fireballs in your face when it's finally dead and you've got almost no more health left. In the new Doom you even take down massive enemies within a second without taking any damage yourself. On the other hand it's a shame the fuel runs out so quickly. It would have been nice if the maximum amount for fuel had been something like 20 or 25 or so. I also think it's stupid you can't use the chainsaw at all when you don't have enough fuel to kill it. If you need 3 fuel to kill an enemy and you've got only 2, why can't I just use those 2 and then finish him off with a shotgun blast?
- In Doom 3 there are many people walking around and they all seem to be different. There seems to be a wide variety of character models for all of the people you encounter. However, I've got the feeling as if every time I encounter someone who's going to help me (like giving me access to a certain area by opening a door for me or giving me his PDA) it's always the exact same person. It's as if they created dozens of character models that are used only once in the first level of the game and you see them for just a single second while they pass you in a hallway and then you never see them again, but they created one character called HelpingNPC which is what they use for everyone helping you. Why not use some character models of people we've seen only once in the first level? When I'm halfway the game I really don't remember it's the same guy that passed me in a hallway in the intro level, but the same guy helping me every single time is something to notice.
- When looking at the PDA in Doom 3 the volume of the environment sounds doesn't change. Very often you're standing next to some machinery making a lot of noise or there's an alarm going off. It's really annoying while reading emails and listening to audio logs is sometimes even impossible. Just turn the volume of environment sounds down to 25% or so.
- I like the way jumping and grabbing ledges is implemented in the new Doom. The guy from Doom 3 can't even jump or step over a box that's half a meter high.
- The new Doom has all of these weapon mods that I don't really care about. I like the simplicity of the weapons in Doom 3.
Both of them just have pro's and cons, but I've never had any problems with the flashlight in Doom 3. There are some minor annoyances like the volume of the environment sounds when the PDA is active, but overall it's a fantastic game with a great atmosphere and even now I think it's still a great looking game. I appreciate both games. The new Doom is a nice, fast non-stop shooter that gives a great adrenaline rush while Doom has a great atmosphere and really giving you the feeling of being part of this corporation where hell suddenly breaks loose while you're there and letting you experience how it all happened through cutscenes, letting you talk to people and reading their PDAs.
Anyway, I just finished playing Doom 3 again and now I've started replaying Prey (the original one of course), another fantastic game on the same engine with lots of innovations and originality.
Noah, your videos prove to be some of the most re-watchable. If I’m feeling down, or even bored I put one of your essays on. God bless you! Lol
I Love Doom 3 to this day. In fact I was playing it today....I probably play it once a year. I always hated the BFG flashlight beyond words I wish i could turn it off and put it back the way they intended it. I remember building my pc just so i could play doom3, i bought my first bose 5.1 surround sound. Waiting till midnight and turned the volume up to the point of painful and turned all my lights off. Since that moment no game has ever compared. Since the release of doom 4 or (DOOM) xbox 1 has made the bfg edition backwards compatable SO i find myself taking the journey to hell once again with a new controller and better sound/color
You should be able to toggle shoulder-mounted flashlight to handheld as a setting. Serve both communities.
Don't think I'd be doing a nightmare run without old shouldy.
In Defense of Doom 3 ?
It doesnt need defending by anyone
It was a success in terms of both sales and critical praise and John Carmack is worth 40 mil.
I liked how much dread it builds up at the start because you know your gonna have to fight through it again fighting the people you just talked to
Horror set at work place, not in traditional out of reach environment, was rarely done well before Doom3. A common reoccurring theme in Doom3 was the office complex, control room, and help desk. Work place at modern cooperation is not really a mystery inspiring sight but carries much more life relating experience to many people (mostly adult male population). Even the Doom guy himself was only doing his job, despite all the paranormal occurrence.This setting taps into the psyche of employee whom is more than their job, whom often not prescribe to the safety of being an underling of the higher up, whom is part of the collective but wish they aren't. The kind of people who is fearless to get the job done.
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I knew The Grabber was going to come up sooner or later. Something that seems to have slipped by you is that The Grabber was actually a developer tool for the base Doom 3 to effectively scatter random junk around in the environments. It was always there right from the beginning. But ID didn't make it playable to the players until Resurrection of Evil. If only they had kept it as an actual part of the game's arsenal instead of holding it off 'till the expansion, Doom 3 could've beat Half-Life 2's Gravity Gun to the punch. They came so close, and yet so far.
@Jotaro97 It's not a powerful weapon. At all.
I'm an oldschool gamer - I started playing Doom in 1994... and never quite stopped ;)
Doom 3 was a very different experience, but I liked it as a whole. I remember playing it somewhere around Christmas 2005, just before my winter break, and it was a great experience, even if the graphical settings were a bit low.
Some people hated the game - my personal explanation is that they are spoiled or lazy (most modern gamers are). Same goes with Quake 4 - I liked the game, despite some people's whining.
+AlexeiVoronin I love Quake 4, has one of the best ally AI that Ive seen in a game. Enemy and level variety were amazing as well. Wolfenstein 2009 comes to mind which I believe is a very underrated game, which had some of the best power upgrades in any game. Ive played every id game other than some of the dos games made before Catacombs 3D and I adore every one of them.
+TheSulaco426 Agreed - Wolf 2009 definitely received a lot of undeserved hate. I played it last year and I really enjoyed it, despite some of the frustrating CoD influences. I even devoted some time to find all the collectibles.
I've grown up with id's games too. I remember getting Spear of Destiny as a birthday present many years ago - it was the best thing ever :)
Yeah I wasnt a big fan of 09's regenerating health but I didnt notice much when I was mowing people down with a vaporizing shield and an anti gravity matter launcher. Wolfenstein 09 was still a religous experience for me at release just like the original games. Raven software was one of my favorite devs until Activision made them do nothing but CoD map packs which is why Ill hate that company more than any other in the gaming industry.
You liked Doom3 and Q4 bc you're a casual shitter, lmao.
Casual? Dude, I've been a gamer since 1992. I've used at least 7 different operating systems on more computers than you've owned in your entire life.
And, I even used to have a gaming website for a while (I think it was somewhere between 2001 - 2004).
That's what you call "casual"? Ha ha ha...
Doom 3 was so much fun when it first came out. I must have beat it 10 times and beat it on all difficulties. Truly a glorious time for gaming.
Fuck nightmare in Doom 3, constantly ticking health suuuccckkksss😂
5 minutes in. I really love it, that you try to incorporate a current discourse in video games. I sometimes think that that videogame criticism is sorely lacking that.
I don't understand when people say Doom isn't about horror and all about running and gunning. Now,you have that or you have this game,where you actually have to proceed with caution and feel the real messed up situation; not to mention that real combat by no way is as fluid or spontaneous as the original Doom. The biggest or core concept of Doom is it pits you against Hell; and if you aren't scared a bit or exhausted then I don't think you get the actual feel of the situation. I played both the types but as I crave indulgence more,I'd have to give Doom 3 the spot for really capturing the essence of the story. I know many die hard fans of the original Doom argue that Doom was THE classic shooter and hence needs no story and all, but I think the whole hell invasion concept requires a little more dramatization than the original one. And that, Doom 3 did perfectly.
That's because Doom came out before Doom 3 and set the notion that "things should be like this". I'm not hating Doom, it was my first game and I like it.But as I said, I like indulgence and realism more and Doom 3 portrays Hell invasion and the psychological consequences quite accurately. Also, we can imagine ourselves in the place of a regular space marine and how a normal human combats hell much more easily in Doom 3 than in Doom or Doom 2016. That's another plus for me, relatable protagonist.
I completely disagree. Do you think "Aliens" falls short as an Alien movie because it's not much of a horror film? No. It's completely ok for a sequel to go at the material with a completely different approach. And even then, Doom 3 takes a lot from Doom and Doom 2. For instance: demon ambushes and labyrinth like layouts. Doom 4 approaches doom from a different direction. It's a lot more linear (which isn't Doom like at all) but retains a lot of the action of the originals as well as the secrets. Being a "badass one man army" does not define Doom it is only a small aspect of it.
uh,what u trying to say man?
Oh..u replying to James Cratty..my bad. Got confused there.
Except that the space marines in the Doom franchise were never intended to be a normal dude fighting normal combat. Read the comic book that came out after Doom 2. It's the only direct reference in the series to the mentality of the space marines, and it's basically that they ARE one-man armies that feel little fear.
Besides, real combat in this scenario would be to nuke the site (in a "nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure" sense) or to run away. In real life, there is no possibility of success in one man facing down an army, especially when that army is made of demons who do not give or seek quarter and are stronger than any normal soldier. If the attacking army were humans, you might hold out long enough for them to run away or be cunning enough to convince one of their groups to surrender to you. The demons would simply attack until you were dead, and they'd certainly never surrender to some cunning ruse, especially because they can't communicate effectively with humans.
Also space marines aren't supposed to be relatable protagonists. They're supposed to be empowerment fantasies; they mow down armies, go on dangerous special missions, and end wars by force of arms. The only exception to this is in Aliens, where the space marines are made out at first to be empowerment fantasies but are shown to be fairly normal people when faced with the horrors of an overwhelming force ("game over man, game over"). Even the marine in Doom 3 shows no signs of fear. There's no recoil in horror from the demons, there's no shakiness in his vision, there's no fumbling with his equipment. Even running out of ammo and being forced to reload with a demon 5 feet in front of him seemingly affects him naught, as the reload is as calm and measured as if he's out on a shooting range with friends on a nice summer day. You as the player might have felt fear and fumbled your controller, but this doesn't mean that the marine you're playing feels that same fear.
Plus, the fact that it's the third in the series and is a major break with the first two entries in tone is pretty much always a strike against a piece. Egg Boy brings up Aliens, but there's important differences. Aliens is the second work in a series, not the third, meaning there's less of a set expectation. Aliens is closer to Alien than Doom 3 is to Doom; Aliens still works as a kind of horror movie (due to the series of deaths and systemic disempowerment of its cast), while Doom 3 does not work as an action FPS (it's too slow and plodding; to me it barely works as an FPS at all because without the flashlight I can barely see what I'm shooting)..
I never played 3, but I love the idea of the lost souls being human skulls that just pop out of people's faces and attack you. I don't remember them doing anything like that in 2016....
good to have you back noah!
Doom 3 looked increadible when it first came out and literally made me wet myself on some of the jumps. Some of the mods were fun too. :)
I still think it looks beautiful. Love the lighting. The lighting model covers up the dated textures.
I suggest grabbing as many mods as possible from GameFront, like right now because when that site shuts down at the very end of this month those mods are going to be lost in the ether.
Moddb has us covered.
how exactly do you mod doom. i understand GZdoom but this is a whole different level. killing everyone before the disaster is fun but i wish you could pit a baron of hell against the hell knight. is there an infighting mod?
You probably won’t see this, Joshino, but I want to thank you for all the Paladins content you made. It’s really weird finding you here, and it’s even weirder that I’m replying to a 4 year old comment hoping you’ll see this, but when I was a Jenos one-trick hardcore Paladins player, your content was gold to me. While I’m more disillusioned to the game now (and it seems like you might be too, lol) and haven’t touched it in over a year, your content was really cool, and I hope you come back sometime soon (maybe with something besides Paladins, if that’s what you’re looking for, lol). I just wanted to thank you for being one of the content creators I used to binge watch regularly.
Thank you Noah, that auto flash light is like turning on the lights in a haunted mansion.
Doom 3 was my first Doom game and its still pretty good imo and that after playing the originals and 2016 Doom.
I love this game without need for justification, but seeing a new video of yours is always a pleasure.
Yeah doom 3 was AWESOME... and even tho i like the new bethesda doom series , its animations look cartoonish rather than crisp-dark-fearful like doom3. Also theres too much light and too much bright/vibrant colouring in the new bethesda doom unlike doom 3 where colors and darkness gave it that scary badass vibe. Imho if the new doom would implement these things (less cartoonish animation, more darkness , more shadows, more creepy scenery, more creepy sound designing and creepier looking demons) then it would easily be undoubtably the best thing ever. I know popular opinion says otherwise but it is what it is.
D3 is still my favourite of the series and I've played them all, extensively. People just trash the game so much because it's not run and gun like original doom was. I say - so what? It's excellent in every other way.
The atmosphere of doom was great. I loved the intro sequence of the first couple levels letting you immerse yourself in the world, and i enjoyed combing through PDA logs to figure out more of what was going with the people of the facility. It did good worldbuilding. I suppose the only thing about it it is that the gameplay itself gets tedious after a few hours of play.
People complain about the dependance on "monster closets" while in the same breath complaining about its lack of faithfulness to the original games, but monster closets and the occassional jumpscare *were* part of the experience of the original games, as waqs combing the environment for secrets. So i really don't understand what people say when they claim that the lack of faithfulness to the original is what led to Doom 3's shortcomings. It's shortcomings are due to its own design independant of the other dooms, and nothing else. Doom "4" is great, but there are still aspects of the original doom experience that it fails to capture, and that is not a weakness. It knows what it is, and that's a large part of what makes it great. I wish that we could be better at keeping our nostalgia in check when it comes to examining and critiquing video games that belong in a totally different era.
"To find something simillar all you need is to shop" - Well, really, I don't recall that much atmospheric shooters being released.
Probably the closest thing was the Dead Space series (altough TPP), but apart from that? There aren't really many horror shooters out there.
Arguably Bioshock, but it wasn't really a horror. FEAR kinda' counts but it's an odd mix (horror outside of the fight scenes and militaristic fights). Didn't play Call of Cthulhu but I heard good things about it.
Alien Isolation is FP...not much of a shooter though.
FEAR is totally FPS horror. Descending into Alma's tomb is dread-inducing.
There were things that Doom 3 did wrong, but what it did right, it did it better than anything else at the time. The atmosphere was unparalleled. You literally felt like you were in a base on Mars that was being overrun by hell.
The one thing that would have made Doom 3 much better is if Id had remembered to focus on making the action as satisfying as the action in the Classic Doom games. If they had just not dropped the ball on the action, then it would have been an awesome game.
Doom 3 is incredibly underrated. ID nailed the atmosphere. Really like how it builds up throughout the game starting off with you feeling weak with the base pistol afraid of every corner to eventually becoming powerful with an arsenal of weapons, yet with the more powerful enemies still keeps the anxiety and tension high albeit in a different manner. Even with somewhat dated graphics this game still holds up incredibly considering it's almost 20 years old.
Doom 3 and Steely Dan's "Change of the Guard" in one video? -- thumbs up Mr Caldwell, thumbs up!
I never saw Doom 3 through the lens of a successor to it's previous titles. I always liked it for what it was, and I still go back and play it all the time. I suppose one case doesn't invalidate the majority, but I still think that, in it's own right, it's a great game that does what it does very effectively, and absolutely defined the trajectory of the FPS horror genre for years to come.
"We don't have anything much like Doom 1 out in the market now"
Well we do now, lol. It's called Doom. :P
Serious Sam is fast and carnagey. Actually, it's moreso than Doom ever was. Stupidly tough too.
The claustrophobic/Aliens inspired lighting and environments sold me. I enjoyed it a lot. I also liked the ambient noises, moans, screams etc.
The lost mission was about the parts that was taken off from the original Doom 3 hence they seem dull & repetitive
Been on a DooM 3 rampage as of late. I rememeber first getting this game for my birthday in 2005. Collectors edition, metal case for the original Xbox. I was a kid then and I couldnt play this game without cheats. Played it through recently on my laptop and I started a playthrough with the Ultimate Weapons mod which I played last October and finished November 1st. It was great fun as added a but more difficulty to the game. Still have yet to touch RoE, but I'll get to it eventually. Thanks for the video, was a good watch.
I didn't think Doom 3 was terrible, but the new DOOM kicks this outta the water!
Interesting video. I must say, your Richard Dreyfuss-like narration, reminiscent of “Stand By Me”, really drew me in.
Statement: Doom 3 always felt very much the kind of atmosphere I wanted for an FPS. I know Bioshock and System Shock, and AVP series were horror fps before that, but Doom, a game about Demons from hell, should be a horror game.
Just want to let you now how great you are and how much I enjoy your essays. Keep up the great work!
You deserve way more attention the you get. Keep up your good work
Man, I was so excited and confused when you said that the author of Angels in America wrote a book about Doom.
I too loved DOOM 3, and its expansions
I just finished this game, and wow, this game had me tense around every corner, especially if I had to backtrack
awsome video man
now please do in defense of wolfenstein 2009
i would really like to see that
I really enjoyed that game.
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me too man it's really underrated and underappreciated the gameplay is awsome the gunplay was superb the story was intriguing involving nazis paranormal magic thule medalions ans i can't even begin with the boss fight it's a great game that not much people know
+Tchitchouan Inouane idk man, i can't say much about the story because i don't recall it that well, but the gameplay i remember to be pretty generic and lackluster. Regenerative health was awful, and the weapon spread gave the gunplay a "Call of Duty" feel that felt out of place in a Wolfenstein game, at least during the first half. Level design also suffered, since you never had to search for medikits, and money was only useful to buy superfluous upgrades for your already very powerful guns. It felt to me like a quick cash-grab on the license, more than a true WF game.
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that's why we need an in defense of wolfenstein 2009 video to praise it's adavantages and point out it's disadvantages sure the gunplay was a bit call of dutyish and generic but it was 2009 COD was the trend so can't you really blame them for willing to bring it to other audiances rather than just the wolfenstein hardcore fans plus no one can deny it had super cool power up with the thule medallion in 4 categories veil speed sheild and empower of course the story was a bit cheesy and voice acting is laughable but it still tons of fun where they really screwed was the multiplayer they shouldn't have made a TF2 x COD hybrid they should have stuck with the RTCW formula
the best thing i love about the game is it's weapon wheel system where you can carry 8 weapons at once you don't see that much in modern shooters with 2 weapon limit system
+Tchitchouan Inouane you watch mrohyoursexi right?
I never had that much issue without the flashlight mod. I just carried a lot of ammo, had surround sound, and just shot a crap load of rounds in the general direction of anything that sounded like it wanted to kill me. At the time I had a Logitech 7.1 surround system. Games like this are much more fun when you have disturbing audio coming at you from all directions. Now I have surround Turtle Beach Headsets. It's so much more immersing to hear things in more than stereo, or from just in front of you. I'd recommend anyone that doesn't have either a pair of Turtle Beach, Triton, or whoever you choose surround headphones to get a pair. When something jumps out at you and you can hear it before you see it, it adds to that layer of paranoia.
kind of surprised that, when you described how Doom 3 is a game version of a B-horror movie, you didn't mention the fact that you can get a journal entry about how demons have to follow the procedure for human sacrifices, with shit like gauging the quality of virgin blood or the order in which the candles have to be placed
You won't believe it, I took solid six months or more to complete Doom 3. I would generally play it during my week offs in a totally dark room in the night. I would search every nook and corner, listen to audio logs and check mails without lowering the PDA, take my sweet a*s time just taking in the incredible atmosphere id crafted so beautifully. Believe me, to this day no other game has even come close to fully realizing it's game world. It truly felt like I was hopelessly stuck on a Mars station. Ofcourse, all this was possible because of the incredible tech powering the game (for it's time) and it's mind blowing sound design.
Looking back now, I'm so glad that I used that approach to play the game. Because none of the games that followed didn't feel as special as Doom 3. Yeah, that includes Resurrection of Evil, Dead Space and so on...
Six months...? I just completed my latest playthrough in two days.
@@thomasvleminckx That's the thing. You can beat the game in no time as it's gameplay time is around 18 hours. I deliberately played it slow just to soak in the atmosphere. Yeah, I'm weird like that. My mantra is, I will take time to beat a game if it feels good because once a game is finished I have no interest to replay it again...
Doom 3 wasn't a bad game, it was ok (although the horror was really cheesy and cliche), but it didn't add anything new to the genre and being a Doom title fans would expect something different, I was expecting something more like Doom 64.
I'm kind of amazed that you didn't mention how awesomely designed the Hell levels in Lost Mission are.
I've never played a bad doom game. 1,2,3 and "4" and all of them have their own great value. Doom 3 tho. when that title screen booted for the first time. oof.
Check out Doom 64 with the release of Eternal. It plays very much like Doom 1 and 2. I think it fits right in.
This game blew my mind right off the bat, and held my attention until I simply got enough of it. I would be hard pressed to find another shooter I had poured quite as many hours into as this one. As a kid that grew up through the 90s witnessing technical milestones, Doom3 felt, albeit along side Half Life 2, the swan song of technical achievement, and I can't help but feel all games since somewhat follow on the coat tails of those two giants ever since, modern games simply do what they already did just better. but before that there was nothing quite like them.
Doom 3 is not a bad game, it just isn't a good Doom game. Doom is an amazingly fun tongue-in-cheek run 'n gun while Doom 3 is a great survival horror game. Doom 3 should have been a new ip, but then again, not as many people would have bought it if it wasn't for the Doom brand recognition.
I could listen to this guy all day long. I love DooM 3. Played it with a cold sweat... Amazing game. In my Top 3 games of all time.
So Noah, now that you've done a retrospective on Doom 3, and followed up with Wolfenstein, will you later on be doing a Doom series retrospective? I think it would be fantastic to go on the journey from 1993 to 2016, and see just where this influential series as a whole has come and gone.
Doom 3 paved the way for one of the greatest standalone shooters ever, Prey 2006, it took an already amazing engine and pushed it to the absolute limit, i love seeing how everything translates over
I loved both Doom 3 and Doom 2016. My only wish is that D4 had more horror elements from D3. The art style of D3 was far superior to D4's, imo.
I didn't say I prefered it over D4, just the enemy design, grittier feel and sound effects.
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Because the art style of DOOM 3 was not that good to begin with?
@James Cratty The Original Doom Games had horror elements. The scrolling wall of twisted faces, the fleshy twisted vision of hell, satanic imagery and etc. I could go on by the original Doom games had some disturbing elements. I think Doom 3 expanded on those elements.
2016 is more fun, without comparison. 3 is great, but not in a classically "enjoyable" way.
I also enjoyed the game, some of the scary moments were really scary. And man, the animations of passing through portals were freaking me out 😄
I love Doom 3, it was my first pc game
The scariest thing in Doom 3 for me is the menu.
All the buttons moved out of the way to show the planet.
Reminds me a lot of the intro to the 1st Alien movie.
Doom 3 is a awesome game! I just wish it wasn't marketed as a Doom game, it isn't really a Doom game at all.
But it is. The guns, the setting, the character, the story. All classic Doom.
Why can't a story have a variety of flavors in the retelling?
Ah, doom 3 a classic for me as a young child. I can now remember playing it with my father, my best friend. Thank you very much for creating this video Noah. You've earning a subscriber xoxox
wtf, the cyberdemon fight in doom 3 was one of the worst and least inspired boss fights ever... seriously, what kind of drugs are you talking?!
I hated the design of the cyberdemon in doom 3. To me, that just didn't look like a cyberdemon at all, just because it shot rockets? That was a huge let down for me but i still liked the game overall.
Absolutely appreciated your take on Doom 3.
There was a DOOM 3? Huh, where have I been?
I was just a kid when I played this game, but I gotta say it was awesome, it kept me thrilled for a while, the sound, the design, the PDA and lore, not to mention the badass intro.
I started the DOOM franchise with this one and thanks to that I cant appreciate it without the "old school" dogmas.
Great write up Doom 3, it totally got overshadowed by Half life 2 and Halo 2, so I never gave it the time of day.
+rmeddy1 You made a good decision. It's a piece of shit.
+HowAbout NoSon Eh, Halo 2's campaign was garbage, even worse than D3. And I'm not even a D3 fan
+MrWillarti I was referring to Half-Life 2. I agree that Halo 2 was a dog turd.
+HowAbout NoSon It's great.
+HowAbout NoSon And i also loved Halo 2.
2022 playing Doom 3 for the first time and im having a blast, so underrated
i borrowed it from a friend, and i never actually seriously played a doom game because i just don't like those old styles. It was a wonderful experience and i preferred having you hold an actual flashlight.
It's a solid horror game. It just got a little repetitive after a while. The constant darkness was a little over done. And I found myself relying upon the shotgun way too much since you do most of the gunning in tight dark corridors.
God I fucking love your videos!
I may not agree with you all the time, but I can still love 'em!
The game that got me into survival horror games and Doom in general