LattePanda 3 Delta: Powerful Intel CPU SBC
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- LattePanda 3 Delta single board computer review, including full specifications, demos running Windows 10 and Linux Mint 21, and some speed tests. You can learn more about this new x86-64 SBC on the DFRobot website at:
www.dfrobot.com/product-2594....
Please note that the LattePanda 3 Delta featured in this video was supplied on loan for review by DFRobot, and subsequently returned. I was not paid in any way by DF Robot to make this video, so it is not sponsored content.
My earlier review of the Khadas VIM4 to which I refer during the Kdenlive video rendering test is here:
• Khadas VIM 4: Powerful...
And my previous LattePanda videos include:
LattePanda Windows 10 Single Board Computer:
• LattePanda Windows 10 ...
LattePanda Alpha: Windows & Linux SBC:
• LattePanda Alpha: Wind...
LattePanda Delta Celeron SBC:
• LattePanda Delta Celer...
LattePanda Alpha Week:
• LattePanda Alpha Week:...
Finally, my review of the 500GB WD Black NVMe SSD that I used in the drive tests is here:
• WD Black NVMe SSD
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Unboxing
03:00 Specifications
07:21 Running Windows (inc tests)
12:05 Running Linux (inc tests)
16:08 The x86 Advantage (wrap)
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Ec is one of the very few creators that do unpaid reviews , I feel Paid reviews really cloud the water as you never really know if the creator is twisting the truth to make the item sound better than what it really is - Thank you Christopher for keeping it real and telling it as it is ! Looks like the Latte Panda is a great little SBC !
Thanks Ian. I am glad that you appreciate what I try to do here. :)
If it weren't for this channel, I'd know next-to-nothing about the SBC market. Thanks for keeping us informed!
As a normal human, I'm glad they had an easy-open package. As a fan of this channel, I was disappointed that there wasn't any appearance by Stanley the Knife or Mr. Scissors. As for the board itself, it seems to be reasonably priced for what it has. It looks like a decent little computer.
I have an ARM SBC coming up fairly soon that demands some serious cutting to get at it! :)
@@ExplainingComputers I'm sure those of us who are fans of Stanley and Mr. Scissors will be thrilled. Though in general, I HATE packaging like that.
Reasonably priced? Looking forward to that reveal. Price is why I don't have a latte panda
Edit : wow, you weren't kidding. That's not bad
Stanley is the best
@@eidgenossenarkebuse Sure, but let's not put down Mr. Scissors. In certain cases, he works better than Stanley.
The SBC manufacturers should sponsor you, Chris (with a no-content-control clause, of course).
If it weren't for your videos, I would never hear about these PCs.
I'd bet that you are responsible for generating a significant portion of the sales for these products.
The way you talk and present in a consistent manor is like a well designed Desktop environment - where all components match and we know what to expect. Or for coding, like a well designed API.
Interesting, Latte Panda has grown in size with each passing generation. Altogether a nice SBC board which could work as on the go PC replacement.
Have a great week, EC !
The Kdenlive results were impressive. The LattePanda has come a long way from their first board. I would find a comparison of their various boards interesting. Looking forward to your next video!
Would this be attributed to Intel Quicksync?
@@revrndcast3918 If so, hurrah for Intel!
Another great video. Considering power consumption, (in the current climate,) SBC's such as this are increasingly significant.
it is a nice sbc, but it seems like a little bit too expensive for me, but i hope lattepanda could make a Ryzen version
nah ryzen will overheat more
@@bennaambo2716 wrong lol
Get an HP T740 "thin client", they have Ryzen SoC's in them
I’d be a customer at a lower price and a Ryzen processor.
the issues with AMD is that they don't support as many code API's as Intel does (there was a parallel programming api that was dropped from AMD and since this doesn't include a nVidia GPU, no CUDA), granted that only affects a small subset of people but it's easier for a company to do one sku that everyone can use or you'd see this or the other board being even more expensive
Im old enough to remember when a $1000 PC was the holy grail for computer companies. Inflation adjusted that $1800 in todays dollars. Those $1000 computers were pretty much trash and I include the $999 base iMac in that. Seeing a $340 SBC that is far more powerful than the $1000 crap boxes from the early 2000s is just amazing. Even more amazing, you dont have to spend a dime on software to make it useful. As amazing as the advances in hardware have been, the fact that you dont have to spend anything on software, including games, is even more amazing.
Great post, thanks for sharing.
Again, great content and excellent presentation. It is an impressive SBC at a significant price point. On another note, I repaired and reconfigured a Lenovo T460 laptop to life using Linux Mint Cinnamon. All the Hardinfo data is excellent. I’m glad I could keep this solid somewhat older laptop. Cheers!
I happily run (Gentoo) Linux as a daily driver on a dual core Thinkpad T61 going back as far as 2007 - the T460, a very nice machine anyway, is new by comparison.
I have Gentoo running on single core Pentium M Thinkpad T40, T41, T42 and T43 - yes, they struggle with web browsing nowadays but are perfectly good home laptops otherwise.
Only Windows ages hardware to the point of it becoming useless to the clueless that know no better.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Had a T61 for awhile for about 5 years. My son and I used it for trying out varying OS to see which one would work best. That was fun. Now, I’m too impatient for all that. Must be the amount of caffeine I drink.
Now you talk about a mini PC Christopher always love theses Videos. Theses kind of PC are useful for many uses cloud gaming weather stuff etc etc have a nice week.
The serial port would make it an ideal drop in replacement in old industrial computers, especially if it supports legacy booting. There's many old computers out there that will be getting to the age of needing replaced, and being able to fit small, cheap systems like this whilst not sacrificing power and compatibility would be quite big.
most serial ports are just usb adapters these days.
Very impressive! I'll be looking into this SBC seriously now.
Went to find info on this board and of course there's an EC video on it. I don't know why I still bother searching anywhere else first...
Thank you CB, you make at least one aspect of our lives easier. o7
I wonder how people still like this board one year in
Thanks Chris, as always well produced, informative and interesting. Your videos are always a 'must watch'.
I love this guy so much he is so nice and always so full of energy
Instead of Another Brick in the Wall, we’ll call it another dent in the wallet. Just amazing how far the performance of the Celeron has come. Again, another outstanding review and presentation, always greatly appreciated. Thanks
Happy Sunday everyone.
Greetings Stephen.
Impressive, at first I thought it is a brave person sending a SBC for Chris to review but with that performance I would want to show it off. Using 'bang for buck' comparison vs rpi4 this is impressive considering also the relatively low power consumption
A 45 Watt power brick has it comparable to some Apple laptops.
Normally I’m a little resistant to more expensive SBCs as often you might as well buy a laptop by the times you’ve bought all the peripherals. However, in this case because of what it offers with the Arduino, 2 M.2 slots and connectivity for a touch screen I think it looks really interesting. I’m a bit disappointed it’s only 8Gb RAM but I’m still tempted.
Like so many(!!!!!!) other expensive SBCs the connectivity isn't better than a cheap microATX board with CPU, but it is underperforming considerably compared to that. SBC's like the PI where fun side projects for a low price. But what kind of users are supposed to buy the expensive crap ?
@@erikkarsies4851 Yeah doesn't make much sense. You could even buy a used thin client with very similar specs for a lot less money, plus it's got a case and stand.
@@FlyboyHelosim I think it ends up costing as much for them to develop as those larger boards because they aren't as mainstream. (kind of guessing here)
I only wish cheap laptops included debug headers or at least motherboard schematics. I purchased one of those $100 USD Gateway laptops with soldered emmc and it's frustrating to think that I can't replace the storage or recover data unless I use an external usb drive or universal chip reader.
@@erikkarsies4851 You have a lot of IO options that you will not find on any mATX board. It is basically a board that is cheap if you need it for industrial functions. It will not be the board to use as a media server or similar functions. It is a cheaper then any mATX board I have seen for industrial use.
I love the retro sound of the theme music. reminds me of late 80's/early 90's
Well it may not be sponsored content as such, but they must know that they're on solid ground for a great review, lending YOU a brand new 8GB LattePanda. You have something of a reputation.
LattePanda 3 Delta + Linux Mint 21... Shh, everyone, let's leave Chris alone with them for some "special time."
Another glorious day with a SBC, good job Chris keep up the good work 👌🏾
Very nice Chris, thanks for the review....!
When someone says SBC, it's not SIngle Board Computer, its Sir Barnatt, Christopher....so synonymous are you with all things SBC that both are interchangeable 🙂
:)
Hi, Chris. As usual, you've produced an outstanding video. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I’m impressed by how much they were able to cram onto a small board!
So glad I was born a nerd, hard to believe, I know, but most people out there wouldn’t get excited by this top quality video. Biggest question now is, since nobody can afford to run their central heating, how well will a lattepanda 3 delta heat your house and keep you warm this winter?
Now that's one powerful little SBC! Heavy price tag (compared to other SBCs) but impressive performance results in this video. Thanks Mr. Barnatt. 👍
I nearly forgot you posted the video today, glad I didn't miss it. It's nice SBC, it knocks spot of the other SBC. 😊
Again another great video, as always. No blabber, all the interesting and fun stuff. I love the theme of sbcs and you are my go-to content creator for things like this. Thank you for your time and effort into producing these incredible videos! I always love watching them :)
Thanks for watching.
@@ExplainingComputers I will happily continue to watch :)
Great video! I really enjoyed the "not fast forward" section where the SBC was doing the fast -forward for us. I might have liked to see some kind of performance test on the built-in Arduino. If you kept a sketch to blink into a frequency counter or an oscilloscope, we could get a feel for the chip performance. If you were feeling really generous, the sketch could include some floating point math with a blinky output. When I was testing some little seeed controllers I purchased, I was surprised to see the blinky program producing waveforms in the 20-30khz range. Thanks for the entertaining video and testing especially on the HD speeds, something I'm going to go try today.
Thanks as always for the great information!!! You are smart, articulate and very informative as always!!!
I like your videos because they are real-world situations I've often had to deal with in friends and family computers.
Thank you, Chris. Great video 🙂.
All of your work informs and entertains, salubriously taming the wilds of the Internet, myself included.
With respect to N5105 cpu, there's been discussion on Proxmox community forums indicating that while PM itself is stable on N5105, users report that oddly their VMs themselves are crashing (i.e. without seeing anything impairing Proxmox itself). J4125 Celeron may continue to garner these PM users' attention until their N5105 issues are patched. Some Proxmox users have switched and are running VMware in order to deploy N5105.
Great to see another Chris video, Chris!!! This device looks great!!!
I'm so happy that at last someone compared vim4 and latte panda! Thank you Christopher!!
Now this is the kind of SBC I've been waiting for.
I don't want to have to deal with any of the headaches or compromises you get with ARM based systems, and this is the first semi-affordable x86 SBC I've seen that I would say is powerful enough to make it worth dropping that much money on.
Definitely putting this on my list of things to pick. Should be a lot of fun to mess around with.
Curious as to what restrictions you notice with ARM options.
@@BeeRich33 the inability to run windows, mostly.
I just don't want to mess with Linux.
But also, ARM processors tend to be less powerful than a comparably price x86 processor.
Considering the current prices of Raspberry PI 4 coupled with absolute unavailability of 8GB versions, I would call this SBC a bargain, if one can actually get it.
Thank you, Chris, for another great review. Have a lovely afternoon.
Seems you're in luck, it's in stock at DFROBOT if you cared to click on the link in the description. 🙂
I just went on ebay in the us. They are around $120-150 if you look.
The RPi 4 doesn't really have much use for 8GB of RAM. And you can still find the RPi 400 for $100 directly from Canakit. Buying these things from eBay or Amazon is always going to be at an inflated price.
There are some cheap SBC Pi4 clones around and for almost the same price you can buy a microATX board with a way more powerfull CPU. Current SBC pricing are ridiculous compared to the performance you are getting.
@@Magus12000BC So true, mine almost never goes over 3 GB in use, even with Firefox and LibreOffice running. (Manjaro-XFCE)
Excellent review ! Interesting SBC solution.
After Raspberries I also got into X86 SBCs very much and definitely see their advantages as Well 💪🙏
This Latte Panda is an impressive media playing solution. Thank You for this helpful review of it.
loved your presentation. Thanks for all you do, i enjoy your channel the best of the best
@Explaining Computers
Once again, an excellent review! You should buy one of these and do a more in depth exploration. I think this little SBC might be worthy of the effort!
Thank you. I believe this is the one I've been waiting for.
Great video as always
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)
Great video sir. That SBC looks really amazing, I can definitely use an x86 board.
Thank very much for this precise and useful information 👌
Hi Chis, thanks for another amazing useful video
Strong SBC showing! Gets the creative juices flowing
Always great content and well presented.
It's quite interesting and unusual to see an x86-64 SBC running with a Celeron chip with a max speed just shy of 3 GHz; it seems the LattePanda family is gradually improving!
Very impressive, as have been all of the LattePanda SBCs!
Hi Chris, and yes. I cannot believe that this is my 10th video about LattePanda hardware. :)
8th of November on the Windows 10 panel...you really are posting from the future 😁
Amazed at how much faster it was than the previous gen. Maybe there's some dedicated hardware encoding in the new CPU that wasn't in the old one?
(yes I know it's set to American date formats)
US and UK date formats are equally confusing. ISO 8601 seems to be most logical.
That is a very capable little SBC. You could slap one into a 1080p monitor and call it an all-in-one. I particularly appreciate how they have an Arduino sharing the board with all the pinouts you would expect and a lot more besides. Looks like the pinouts provide access to every aspect of the computer going all the way down to the BIOS so you really could make this board run anything
Pretty impressed for the size.
Greetings sir!! This is one killer board!! I did upgrade the pre-installed Windows 10 to Windows 11 so I have it for testing. I also installed Linux Mint 21 on an NVMe drive but did NOT disable eMMC so I can dual boot. All of this is housed in the LP Titan case that came with the board.
What power SBC review would be complete without our friends the ducks?
Thanks for this. I did not try Windows 11, so am pleased to hear that it worked for you.
Dual booting does work on the setup I showed, either by using the BIOS to turn the eMMC on and off (when on, Windows will boot, when off Linux will boot). Or, after installation, you can leave the eMMC turned on, and boot from the NVMe drive by using the boot selection BIOS menu when you do not want to boot into Windows. I use this approach quite a lot on x86 boards with eMMC (and indeed more generally by physically removing drives with other OS on them when doing a Linux install, then reconnecting other drives afterwards). The advantage is that Grub does not run by default, and a Grub corruption does not prevent booting of more than one OS. :)
@@ExplainingComputers I just find it easier to not have to go into the BIOS so often.
I live on the edge and scoff at GRUB corruption. :)
@@sbc_tinkerer :)
That was quite the quick one to render!
Just what I was looking for. I can put this in my truck for computer access and e-mail.. now to get star link and those components and have a good access point from where ever I am.. Well done.. thanks for the new info..
I can imagine that many of these will become vehicle computers of one kind or another. :)
Thanks so much as always
You are the only reviewer I have ever heard apologize to a board before turning it over! Great review, as always.
british moment
@@Robbie-mw5uu We Brits are very polite 😀
Lovely SBC, well worth the money i think. Thanks for sharing Chris. Stay safe and well
Greetings Brian. :)
This looks like a great SBC, thanks for sharing it with us, Anne Robinson
One thing you did not mention when comparing it with other boards including Pi 4, NUC's etc was the power consumption, that may play a big factor in some applications
So true, many parts of the world are in an energy crisis right now. Using x86 chips is becoming more and more a heavy legacy stone to drag along over the years. Their potential for further architectural optimization
shrinked drastically. So intel and amd raise the frequency excessively, which is bad for the efficiency. It is about time to use better and proper solutions in the 21st century.
@@aladdin8623 We are one of those countries where food and fuel of all types are rising at an unsustainable rate. I have a Raspberry pi which I will be experimenting with as my "desk top" computer. Powered from solar, a charge controller, battery and DC to DC converter. All the energy ultimately gets converted to heat which at least helps to warm the house in the winter, in the summer not so good 🙂
@@GrasshopperOutdoors Wow congratulations, wished i had the skills too for home solar power builds.
Arm based SBCs are in any case better than being dependent from intel's and amd's oligopoly.
Beyond that i am excited about RISC-V based SBCs. Recent RISC-V combinations even come with imagination technologies gpus, for which open source drivers have been announced. They even got mobile solutions for more efficient tier 4 and even tier 5 hardware ray tracing, while amd and nvidia still use power wasting tier 2 and 3 hardware ray tracing.
Hopefully in near future we don't need nvidia, amd and intel anymore.
The problem currently with RISC-V is that there arent a menu of hardware options. I own an Orange Pi Zero 2, and its nice for what i need.
Any chance you have that build posted here? If not, could you post one? I have tinkered with solar cells and comouters for about 10 years and i have no baseline. Motorcycle batteries, panels, etc.
This one is quite impressive. It's not the best price point, but for what it does, the form factor and the performance, I'd (make an effort to) get one, though I'll have to save my pocket change to do it. Thanks for another great video Chris.
Well done presentation Chris, even though I could not afford a SBC at that price it was still informative and interesting. Thanks have a good one 🤠👍✌
Great Video Christopher. I wonder if you will be doing a future video that covers the interaction between the x86 and Arduino sub-systems?
Great review, thank you for this
No problem 👍
Impressive performance and connectivity.
Love your videos man love ya!!
Thanks for your kind feedback, appreciated. :)
Excellent content as always. Could you make a video on how to use software defined radios(SDRs) with SBCs ?
Nice video Chris! Thank you for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
Very cool! If you haven't already returned this device and have time a short blink sketch video using the pins would be helpful. I could see getting this instead of a new low cost laptop with all the fun this would offer.
Great video, as always. Please, Chris, have a look at Firefly ROC-RK3588S.
thanks great review, wish I had a reason to get one.
Nice video, thanks! Also looks like a nice SBC, though it doesn't look like they offer a case for it yet, at least one I could find in their store.
Yes, they had several very nice case options for the 2nd gen boards
genius purely.. can't wait 2 add it 2 my rowbot!!
Received my LP3D on Monday, really nice and powerful SBC. I have installed Windows 10 on a NVMe SSD and Ubuntu 22.04 on the internal 64GB storage, everything is working fine so far. Great to have a really usable pocket PC with fast USB and LAN ports and a full size HDMI connector. It is more than powerful enough to watch UA-cam and Prime, even older games will run properly at 1080p. I have disabled a lot serial ports in BIOS to have less drivers needed, hope they will release something like a "Desktop" BIOS for this case in future.
Me gustan tus videos, muy buen contenido. Saludos desde Chile!
Are the usb ports on individual controllers, or do they share controller?
Excellent video btw. Hope your view stats are up again where they clearly belong. 😊
As always, very interesting. Seems like a great sbc for its use. Are you planing to test the new asus Tinkerboard 2?
Amazing Video 👍
Man this would be an awesome desktop replacement board. 3d print an enclosure and attach it to the back of a TV and you have an awesome media PC.
Totally.
I've been playing Kerbal Space Program a lot on this SBC. Runs like a charm.
Like no. 600.. Like this a lot, should be able to run games on this one as well. Great review Chris, best performing SBC in x86-64 format so far, but pricey though..
very nice looking board with plenty of slots and connectors. and it is for Windows + Linux. seems to be a decent SBC for everything.
This is a very interesting video!
I have a couple of questions
1. Did you put linux mint on the hard drive you installed or use it on flash drive.
2. Do they make a case for this or do you keep it naked.
3. Another information and informative video as usual.
4. I keep learning more each time I tune in Thanks
Thanks for this. I installed Linux Mint on the NVMe SSD. No cases are listed yet, but there were several for previous generations, so one may arrive! :)
@@ExplainingComputers One could have a lot of fun with either a 3D printer or perhaps even a laser-cutter and wood; that could make for some really beautiful little cases.
Hi Chris, I just spent a few hours this weekend setting up Android on a raspberry pi 3 using Emteria which allows 3 free licences for home projects. It works well and might be of interest to some of your viewer's. Also just another pi project with a twist. Keep up the good work 👍👍
Interesting, I'll take a look at Emteria. :) Thanks for the tip.
Great Video as usual! 🙂
Will you do some Graphics Benchmark Tests later?
Would be interesting to see what this Board is able to do.
Greetings from Germany 🙂
I had the model LattePanda and was very impressed, the cost for the 3 delta is the only limiting factor for myself.
My criticism will go to the single USB 3.2 Gen2 port not being identified by a different colour in the plastic connector. However, this shortcoming is hardly Chris' fault and thank you for the usual great quality review.
Not bad looks like a PC I would buy, it can be put in anything
Its the pc 90% of useres need
my favourite aspect of the lattepanda line is the onboard atmega 32u4.
I can't wait until SBCs like this have Intel iris graphics or similar. I don't know why I want an sbc for my next desktop, but I do
I do like the LattePanda single boards they're like an echo back to the netbooks we got in the mid 00s. I'd get one if I wasn't counting the pennies at the moment!
Such a sweet SBC!
this is the solution i needed maybe
Perfect little computer