Orange Pi 5: Excellent RK3588S Octa Core SBC

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
  • Orange Pi 5 SBC review, including hardware specifications, with demos running Ubuntu and Debian, and applications that include Chromium, GIMP, LibreOffice, Blender and Kdenlive. There is also discussion of the differences between an RK3588 and RK3588S system on a chip (SoC), with tests to show the implications for the speed of an M.2 NVMe SSD.
    At the time of uploading this video (Jan 14th 2023), the 4GB Orange Pi 5 was selling on Amazon.com for $82.99 -- amzn.to/3IOe2li Note that this is an affiliate link, and that as an Amazon Associate I earn a commission from any qualifying purchases you may make.
    The Orange Pi 5 featured in this video was purchased on pre-release from AliExpress in November 2022 for £53.03 plus taxes and shipping, which came to £74.35 delivered. At the time of making this video (in the second week of January 2023) the 4GB model with no accessories included was selling on AliExpress for $75.00. But as I say in the video, Orange Pi prices seem to change very regularly, and the board is sold in a lot of different packages.
    You can learn more about the Orange Pi 5, and download operating system images, from its web page here: www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare...
    Please note that the above is not an affiliate or otherwise sponsored link, and that I have no association with Orange Pi.
    My previous review of the Rock 5B is here:
    • Rock 5B: Powerful RK35...
    My previous review of the Orange Pi 800 ARM keyboard computer is here:
    • Orange Pi 800: ARM Key...
    If you are interested in comparing the RK3588 and RK3588S SoCs, you can review information as follows:
    RK3588 datasheet:
    www.rock-chips.com/uploads/pd...
    RK2588S Datasheet:
    www.cnx-software.com/pdf/data...
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:50 Unboxing & Specs:
    07:19 Ubuntu
    12:05 NVMe Speed Test
    14:55 Debian & Applications (inc Kdenlive render test)
    20:33 Wrap
    #OrangePi5 #RK3588S #explainingcomputers
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  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling Рік тому +205

    The main thing Orange Pi is doing that *could* differentiate themselves from the rest of the Pi clone crowd is maintaining their own Orange Pi OS.
    I wish them luck, and hope that the OS is well maintained. Having a first party OS that "just works" would be a huge advantage compared to the "here are 6 OSes that all work... more or less (usually less)" which is the status quo in the space :(

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +42

      Hi Jeff -- I agree. We just need on well-supported OS. So it is strange that Orange Pi OS has been late to the table for both the Orange Pi 800 and Orange Pi 5.

    • @Remigrator
      @Remigrator Рік тому +8

      Then you should start developing that operating system right away! I will check on your progress tomorrow. 😁

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling Рік тому +32

      @@ExplainingComputers I feel that they don't see how much of a competitive advantage it would be to have their OS be maintained to a similar degree as Pi OS.
      As it is, industries and organizations (where Pi sells like hotcakes) are loathe to start adopting those boards mostly because of that lack of support.
      I won't hold my breath, but I really do wish they would do better!

    • @hiiaminfi
      @hiiaminfi Рік тому +16

      @@Remigrator very interesting take:
      Person A: Well there is this problem with product X
      Person B: Why don't YOU fix that problem?
      Just a little food for thought: If they want a community backing such an OS they will have to prove to a group of people that it is actually worth sinking time into a first party OS for OrangePi's instead of ... you know buying a RPI, flasing RPI OS on it and calling it a day

    • @horseradishpower9947
      @horseradishpower9947 Рік тому +5

      @@JeffGeerling I agree. One of the things I look at when SBC reviews appear is what the OS/software support is like. And this is where they invariably fail to motivate me to buy their product.
      The only one that is a notable exception is the Rock 5B, which looks great on the hardware and software side of things.

  • @lesliedeana5142
    @lesliedeana5142 Рік тому +29

    Jumped out of bed to be here with everybody! Keep your eyes averted!

  • @TheGregEgg
    @TheGregEgg Рік тому +24

    I was really disappointed to see the board isn't orange in color.

  • @Chris.Wiley.
    @Chris.Wiley. Рік тому +78

    Thanks for demonstrating the difference between the RK3588 and RK3588S. That is very helpful!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +15

      I thought it was worth highlighting, as they are often equated . . .

    • @mctt
      @mctt Рік тому +5

      14:08 NVMe Speed difference is substantial. (For anyone else who just want the answer).

    • @m8hackr60
      @m8hackr60 Рік тому +3

      Agreed, definitely above and beyond the call of duty.

    • @ThePantygun
      @ThePantygun 6 місяців тому

      Cut to the NPU testing. @@ExplainingComputers

  • @allmac7504
    @allmac7504 Рік тому

    I was/am considering buying so firstly thanks! I’m going to watch this a few times ,as usual you cram in so much important relevant info I need time to revisit and figest.

  • @johncundiff7075
    @johncundiff7075 Рік тому

    Great video as always Mr. Barnatt!! Keep up the excellent work!!!!!

  • @walterpark8824
    @walterpark8824 Рік тому +1

    Ywt another excellent review, with swlwxt detail of essential comparisons. Thanks!

  • @aaroncisneros6044
    @aaroncisneros6044 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the information

  • @pccsrr
    @pccsrr Рік тому +1

    Great Video, I'm a big fan of these videos with SBC.

  • @pondellojonez
    @pondellojonez Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the review .

  • @liontuga155
    @liontuga155 Рік тому

    Thanks, Chris. Very thorough, as always.

  • @drummindog
    @drummindog Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your awesome content. I was watching on a phone and got a chuckle. Those apples looked like green peppers. Keep up the good work, sir!

  • @BillyRazOr2011
    @BillyRazOr2011 Рік тому +1

    Very excitement of Orange Pi 5! Great job Chris! And also Happy Lunar New Year! 👍🏻

  • @Digithalis
    @Digithalis Рік тому

    Thanks for demonstrating Captain! 🙂

  • @emailuser3869
    @emailuser3869 Рік тому +1

    @ExplainingComputers thanks for your thorough videos. This is an excellent resource for SBC facts.

  • @andrewd4906
    @andrewd4906 Рік тому +12

    I have a 16GB version and have been very impressed. I added a USB wifi dongle and that sorted the lack of onboard allowing an nvme drive to be used. I run Ubuntu. I was also impressed by the online manual. As always excellent video. Thanks

  • @rootpotato
    @rootpotato Рік тому +1

    Another excellent review, from the master . . . Thank you Dr. Chris!

  • @horseradishpower9947
    @horseradishpower9947 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for this video. Your Raspberry Pi alternative video is one I am looking forward to. I am sure you will give us some very thought provoking alternatives to consider.

  • @theodorechryssanthidis
    @theodorechryssanthidis Рік тому +2

    Thanks for this review Christopher!!! It is about time for the SOCs to get a market share of the desktop! Not all of us need to keep on having such huge desktops!!! Very good point to show us the I/O throughput difference with the RK3588 chip! Waiting for your Raspberry Pi 4 Alternatives video!

  • @roberts.3712
    @roberts.3712 Рік тому +1

    Just got mine up and running. A very promising board at a good price point. 😀

  • @antoniosandoval8383
    @antoniosandoval8383 Рік тому +2

    Love when you call Mr. Scissors, brings me calm feelings, like if I was watching a Mr. Rogers episode. Great show! Love your content!

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb Рік тому +1

    Always like the SBC features. Thanks for another great video Chris. 👍

  • @brianthorburn4957
    @brianthorburn4957 Рік тому +4

    What a great review , the normal standard from Chris ..very professional , great detail

  • @Urosaurus
    @Urosaurus Рік тому +1

    These are getting fast! Cheers.

  • @chriskaye1997
    @chriskaye1997 Рік тому +7

    Dear Chris, I really like your content and delivery, it brings back memories of the BBC when it used to provide amazing programming like Tomorrow’s World many years ago.

  • @maxdiamond55
    @maxdiamond55 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Chris , really in depth review.
    Exactly what we like 👍🏿

  • @domsau2
    @domsau2 Рік тому +3

    Perfect specs!

  • @MobiusHorizons
    @MobiusHorizons Рік тому

    This was a very helpful video! I had been wondering how the orange pi 5 was so much cheaper than the Rock 5B, and your overview helps evaluate that difference. Thanks very much!

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 Рік тому +20

    Once again, another Orange Pi product that is impressive with it’s early software not being disappointing! I like the way SBC,s are heading, Really looking forward to your “Raspberry Pi 4 Alternatives” video. I’m very interested in how software development has improved on some of the boards you have reviewed in the past. Looking forward to your next video!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +8

      Greetings Perry. There certainly seems to have been a sea change when it comes to software at Orange Pi.

    • @perrymcclusky4695
      @perrymcclusky4695 Рік тому +1

      @@ExplainingComputers Hoping to see that change continue.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. Рік тому

      What is an SPC?

    • @perrymcclusky4695
      @perrymcclusky4695 Рік тому +2

      @@Okurka. LOL I’ll have to correct that! It must stand for Stupid Person at a Computer.

    • @theprogram863
      @theprogram863 Рік тому +1

      @@ExplainingComputers I'd love to see a video about software support and compatibility, especially a few years after release. For a while it seemed like SBCs would have a flurry of reviews at release, report OS issues but that the mfgr was working on it, and then you'd never hear about the board again. At least a few years ago, that meant maybe two or three good software updates, and then the company would be working on the next board and you were on your own.

  • @OW79
    @OW79 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you on the placement of that NVME connector, very counter intuitive and impractical!

  • @dang48
    @dang48 Рік тому +1

    Nice. They keep getting better.
    And when you mention Audacity, it reminded me of a project I did in college. We took a song, adapted it and I really like the result.

  • @joeg3950
    @joeg3950 Рік тому +1

    Great content. I look forward to your RPi Alternatives video. All the best!

  • @david78212
    @david78212 Рік тому +128

    I know Raspberry does off-production making of their chips to keep costs down. But, they had better consider the repercussions of having the Pi out of the retail(?) environment for so long. There are dozens of "Raspberry Pi" alternative videos out already and I have moved on to a board that is powered directly by 12v, mostly because I am NOT going to pay $260 from scalpers for a Pi and directly powered by 12v makes what I am doing easier on me. Pi will still have its following, but a lot of others have moved on. Even printer companies have started making their own powered by 12/24v to make installation easier. Raspberry is not going to have the following they had for so long the longer this keeps being the norm.

    •  Рік тому +9

      I agree, using a phone charger through usb cable to power up a computer is sketchy idea as hell, and it should be avoided long time ago. Only good reason is low cost and ability to sell its own Raspberry power supply (which needs to output 5.1V for RPI to work properly, which proves my point). DC barrel jack with at least 12V input for next RPI would be ideal solution, it does not cost arm and leg, allows for proper input power management and can handle higher current. Other solution would be a quick charge / power delivery usage for power up. Shame on Raspberry for such unreliable solution.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому +6

      I am not sure I understand the logic of your argument.
      The Raspberry Pi is an "anomaly" - I don't think Eben Upton and the Foundation had any idea originally that the Pi would be taken up by the hobbyist community anywhere near as much as it has been - clearly, the original board was aimed at education to bring computer skills into schools in as low cost a manner as possible. In order to pursue that aim, the Foundation had to make commitments to industry to supply boards to them also on the basis that they put up some of the money.
      The fact that the Pi has taken off so well has meant that there's more money for better support can be given for its primary OS but, of course, that has created supply issues, especially during "the thing that cannot be mentioned". That has created this anomalous scenario.
      Personally I'd estimate that Raspberry Pi as an SBC probably occupies 75-80% of the hobbyist market, with all other SBCs competing for the remaining 20-25%, as other manufacturers have "followed suit" and released their own boards.
      So there's the problem, in a nutshell - everyone is setting too high expectations on other manufacturers who are supposed to provide as much support as the Raspberry Pi Foundation does but with less market share, smaller user bases and less income.
      To me, that's a "user problem" with too many people wanting it all too easy. A "hobby" is a past-time that, by definition, an individual puts in a lot of effort to getting pleasure and enjoyment from it - SBCs are no different because nothing stops you learning Linux well and then having a go at customising your own builds yourself to get the best out of the hardware you are running it on. But that means time and effort on the user's part, no different to a hobbyist custom car builder or someone that sails their own boat for pleasure. If you are not willing to put in that time and effort, then maybe it's time for a different hobby?
      In simple terms, the success of the Raspberry Pi is entirely the wrong benchmark to measure other SBCs by because the success of the Pi was an anomaly.

    • @david78212
      @david78212 Рік тому +3

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 That's part of what I meant, there is so much "ready made" stuff out there for a Pi, people don't really have to do anything. There are alternatives for the Pi already and the Raspberry Foundation is screwing up giving people so much time to figure that out. I have an alternative for what I needed it for, natively runs on 12v instead of a buck converter. The Raspberry Foundation is giving too many people too much time to figure out that there are alternatives out there already. It's a faster processor and supports eMMC. I get that they are trying to stick to a "price point", but, it's going to cost them in the long run. Instead of "making" something, they are simply assembling off-the-shelf parts to make what they wanted.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 Рік тому +3

      @@david78212 But you're over-simplifying the situation - it's not just about profit making, there is also a commitment to the charitable works of the Raspberry Pi Foundation and to industry, that presumably put in the original investment.
      You're simply not comparing "like for like" and I am not shilling for Raspberry Pi either, especially as my competence with Linux (since 1996) means that I am perfectly capable of making the best of non-RPi boards with custom Gentoo Linux builds.
      Only this morning I have received my new Banana Pi BPI-P2 Zero board and I have an Orange Pi 800 and Orange Pi 5 on order.
      But to get the best out of any of those boards you need to invest time and effort to do your own kernel compilations and builds.

    • @icraftcrafts8685
      @icraftcrafts8685 Рік тому

      I doubt that. The eco system of the pi is complete. Others take a very long time to even get to basics of install in some cases. Unfortunately pi will be even bigger when they fully restock. They will probably come along with some surprise version or price and the market will be flooded with non pi

  • @SusanAmberBruce
    @SusanAmberBruce Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Chris, for another Sunday video, Great stuff!
    I especially like your tutorial videos to help us actually use this stuff if we are fortunate to have it, yesterday for example I watched your video about setting up Open Media Vault on a Raspberry Pi and I used the information you gave to set up Open media Vault on an Atomic Pi (bit of an old SBC) it was collecting dust in the cupboard because it's not quite up to running a desktop but for Open Media Vault it does fine for a simple home NAS system.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +1

      Hi Susan, great to hear this. I can imagine that OMV runs great on an Atomic Pi. A good use for it! :)

  • @mikefinn2101
    @mikefinn2101 Рік тому +1

    Very nicely done I hope Raspberry Pi can catch up I am using the Pi-400 as my main computer and love it. I hope to upgrade soon. Like the keyboard and mouse combo.
    considering a Orange Pi. Thanks again for sharing I always enjoy watching your videos. can't wait for more.

  • @alanthornton3530
    @alanthornton3530 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Chris for the Rock Pi 5 video, it's an interesting board at a reasonable price & Ubuntu seemed to run well on it. At the end of the day it's all about the manufacturers support that makes or breaks it! I'm looking forward to seeing the revisit of Raspberry Pi 4 alternatives, a nice desktop replacement would make my day 😊.

  • @NJHewitt
    @NJHewitt Рік тому +11

    Chris, another good video! I've had one of these myself for a few weeks now, and after installing the panfork gpu driver, to get proper hardware accel, it's screaming quick! - far snappier in UI response with lots of web tabs open than my 2015 Macbook Pro, which would have cost well over twenty times as much. (granted, a laptop includes a display, keyboard, speakers, battery, etc)
    I do wish you'd tried that webGL test again with the hw-accel enabled - I doubt your audience who might buy SBCs are intimated by adding a PPA repo.

  • @paullandry6573
    @paullandry6573 Рік тому +1

    Another great video! Thanks Chris!

  • @climbeverest
    @climbeverest 7 місяців тому +1

    Great hairstyle! What a lovable guy! Thanks! Love the knowledge you disseminate, I love your intonation!

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 Рік тому +4

    Very cool. I was able to score a couple of those 16G versions on Amazon before they went out of stock a couple weeks ago. I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd review it!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +3

      Mine got stuck in customs for about three weeks! But it arrived in the end.

    • @vincei4252
      @vincei4252 Рік тому

      @@ExplainingComputers Yeah, customs is always a pain!

  • @ChrisHalden007
    @ChrisHalden007 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Thanks

  • @peanut71968
    @peanut71968 Рік тому +1

    Good one, Chris! Cheers!

  • @avejst
    @avejst Рік тому +1

    Interesting video as always 👍
    Good find

  • @merthyr1831
    @merthyr1831 Рік тому +10

    Interesting choice to ship Debian AND Ubuntu, especially with both using XFCE.
    As for performance, I'm very impressed! My Raspberry Pi 4B costed upwards of £100 just to get the 8GB model (before we consider heatsinks and external peripherals) and runs Plex Media Server, Sonarr, Radarr, Qbittorrent, Nextcloud all concurrently with no issues using DietPi Linux (Which I think you should do a video on sometime, Chris! it's a beast beginner homeserver OS).
    This is cheaper and is a big step up in CPU performance out of the gate. Even without GPU acceleration it could easily become a homebrew netflix setup without making a peep of sound from cooling (the main downside of x86 boards is their noisiness and power draw imo). Looking forward to more RISC-V and ARM excellence this year!

  • @thewiirocks
    @thewiirocks Рік тому +8

    Thanks for reviewing this board Chris! I do think you should have highlighted the different memory configurations a bit more. Having a 16GB version available for such an incredibly low price is a real game changer. In many ways, I think this is far more important for real-world use than having a faster NVMe drive. There's a point past which more NVMe performance doesn't do anything useful if the rest of the system can't keep up.
    Altogether, I love the starch out of this board. It's fantastic out of the box with excellent software support. Community support is ramping up quickly with Armbian providing their own OS image *with* 3D acceleration support. The system has enough grunt to be a daily driver desktop, but also makes an excellent server platform with some truly impressive thermals despite the incredible power of the system!
    At times like this, I'm reminded of how the quad core Banana Pi was simply uncoolable, managing to burn myself on my attempts. Apparently they have a giant heatsink for the tiny board now that I'd like to try out. But you compare that to the Orange Pi 5 which is software decoding UA-cam without a heatsink or fan. That is *impressive* to say the least!

    • @darkobelisk4076
      @darkobelisk4076 Рік тому +3

      Agree. I don't think I've ever been bottlenecked by I/O, just inconvenienced on the rare occasion I move a big bunch of files around. Eagerly watching Discord to see when it's ready for prime time as potentially a great home server.

  • @voodooyam
    @voodooyam Рік тому +1

    Pretty amazing board!

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames Рік тому +7

    Definitely an interesting SBC. I'm glad you pointed out the differences between the RK3588 and the S version.

  • @MicrobyteAlan
    @MicrobyteAlan Рік тому +2

    Very informative review. It's so interesting to see all the different SBC's being tested. Thanks as always. 👍👍

  • @rigorobles3991
    @rigorobles3991 Рік тому

    Greetings and salutations from México, huge fan of the channel Chris, you always have the best reviews :)

  • @RoboNuggie
    @RoboNuggie Рік тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @nandingpanelo
    @nandingpanelo Рік тому +1

    Nice. Happy new year

  • @ncm0815
    @ncm0815 Рік тому

    A great video as usual. Thank you your effort!
    I have one suggestion for a topic you could address in a separate video, and that is the difference between the interfaces for displays, cameras and other peripherals un SBCs. Or perhaps I overlooked a video from you on that topic?
    But it would be interesting so see the differences for example on display interfaces so one can find the right display for a project right away. the same goes for cameras. It doese not have to go in every detail, but I could not imagine anyone better that you for a general overview.

  • @AndrewJackson2000
    @AndrewJackson2000 Рік тому

    Damn...This is the most accurate tutorial on the entire platform on UA-cam...thank you Chris. (I especially writing with one S)

  • @amcadam26
    @amcadam26 Рік тому +10

    Living near Cambridge, I want to support the raspberry Pi foundation by sticking with the "official" pi SBCs, but given they've messed around home users for so long now and not kept the technology up with demand, allowing competitors to pull ahead, my allegiance is sliding to any company that can provide good products and this one looks great.

    • @bossu2005
      @bossu2005 Рік тому +2

      I'm done with RPIs - The $40 - $50 - $60 computer that costs you $200 by the time you buy all the things that a computer needs. Cases, heat sinks, fans, power supplies,a clock,a BIOS and bootloader that is accessible and visible and not secret/cryptic. E-Waste.

    • @joshuarowe8410
      @joshuarowe8410 Рік тому +1

      ​@@bossu2005 you purchase a BIOS and bootloader?? This board costs $83 USD according to the video description as well so it's not like you're getting some super cheap device

    • @bossu2005
      @bossu2005 Рік тому +1

      @@joshuarowe8410 It is cheap in a way - junk

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 Рік тому +1

    Great review! Just had a coworker order one and do some investigation too, though more bleeding edge and graphics focused. Rather strange the Debian issue you had with Kdenlive... Might take a look when I likely get one for work purposes sooner or later.

  • @MichaelOlsonJr
    @MichaelOlsonJr Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the review, I suggest adding some discussion of mainline kennel support. Most regrets people have with these boards are because they end up stuck with old releases and/or have flaky kernels.

  • @seguramlk
    @seguramlk Рік тому +3

    Man, is the SBC scene looking good.
    Powered by 🐧
    Awesome video, Chris 👍

  • @cliff_hewitt
    @cliff_hewitt Рік тому +1

    Painting some apples at 17:26. Awesome. 😉

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ Рік тому +6

    Things in the SBC space are getting very interesting now. It won't be long, until there'll be maker boards with Cortex A77 and A78. These have enough performance for use as an every day PC :D

  • @screamengine
    @screamengine Рік тому +1

    Great little machine for a headless server/gateway! I think there will be a massive demand just for this purpose alone!

  • @nopens
    @nopens Рік тому +1

    This is amazing

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z Рік тому +23

    What an interesting board. It gives me great hope for what might come to the market in 2023. Although as you say, the M.2 connector alignment is more than just unfortunate.
    Overall I agree, this is an impressive performance SBC - therefore an acceptable desktop. With that exception of no hardware graphics support under Linux. So far this is the Achilles heel on many boards/SoCs.
    Considering this Chris, when you are doing those Raspberry Pi 4 alternatives comparisons, please specifically test for this support.

    • @martinbone
      @martinbone Рік тому +6

      Armbian is available for the Orange Pi 5 with GPU support. It might not be 100% finished ... but already works pretty well.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z Рік тому +1

      @@martinbone Good to know. Thank you.

  • @JudgeD-hc9vw
    @JudgeD-hc9vw Рік тому +1

    Yes.....Mr Scissors always makes a video better.....

  • @energymarketchile
    @energymarketchile Рік тому +1

    Great video, as usual...

  • @jaffarbh
    @jaffarbh Рік тому +2

    That's really cool. It can be used as a web server or a file server for a home or a small office.

  • @sylvainlathuy2702
    @sylvainlathuy2702 6 місяців тому +1

    I own an Orange Pi 5. It is now November 2023 and I tested the following Linux images: Orange Pi OS, Debian, Ubuntu. Here is what I found out: None of these are 100% functional right after install. The best right now is the Debian because it is the most fluid interface with GPU acceleration properly enabled and it makes a huge difference on my 4K display. The best environment is XFce and best browser Chromium. Gnome and Firefox are painfully slow in comparison. I tested the power consumption: around 7W when browsing the web with many tabs and videos open. ~10 Watts when recording 2 HD streams (set at 15fps) from v4l USB 4K cameras with "motion" + watching youtube at the same time. Impressive! Perfectly usable as an every day computer if you are not afraid to fix a few configuration issues yourself...

  • @jayodea503
    @jayodea503 Рік тому +3

    Looks a nice board! I have just preordered the 16gb ram version and it cost less than a 4gb RPi4. happy days!

  • @MCallsen
    @MCallsen Рік тому

    Thank you so much :)

  • @ulrichcordes375
    @ulrichcordes375 Рік тому

    Thank you for your demonstration of Orange PI 5. I have RebornOS installed on my PI4 (4G) and searched now a good replacement for my old laptop computer. Your Video helped me to decide to purchase a 8GB Orange PI 5 from AliExpress with a big cooling fan heat sink. I will try to install RebornOS, which is also available for the Orange PI 5 an will install it on a NVMe drive. Go on with you videos, I am impressed of your detailed work. Thank you 👍. Greeting from good (c)old Germany.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Рік тому +1

    14:39 - I really appreciate this warning (in addition to the whole video).

  • @PeterJasper
    @PeterJasper Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the review of the Orange Pi 5 excellent RK3588S SBC ... very impressive and great that it has software support. I think you may have been painting green capsicums rather than apples in GIMP 🙂

  • @zbigniewkrajewski7536
    @zbigniewkrajewski7536 Рік тому +1

    I waited quite abit of time to see Mr Scissors back in action on Your channel, thank you mr Chris :) I wonder about that 16gb variant of Orange Pi, thats alot ram for sbc :O

  • @peterfrisch8373
    @peterfrisch8373 Рік тому +10

    Chris, I just have to tell you that you did not put apples in that GIMP project, but bell peppers.
    Also I am one that uses PoE to power my RPis, so I am most interested in SBCs that have that ability. I have seen that a number of DBC manufacturers say that their boards do have that ability, but do not specify the HAT/unit that will do it.

  • @m8hackr60
    @m8hackr60 Рік тому +1

    Hello again, Chris!
    I really wish they'd integrated Wi-Fi, but I can understand that in many (probably most) cases, this is simply not required. It would have been nice to have a second M.2 for using both of NVMe and Wi-Fi.
    Looks like I have a board to get on order.
    Thank you for thorough review!

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn Рік тому +2

    This was one of the best reviews of the Orange Pi 5 as you explained the difference between the RK3588 and slimmer S variant perfectly so thanks 👍 I hope to see a future review of the Rock 5A that was just announced with hope's it's as good if not better than the Pi 5...? 🤞

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for this feedback. The Rock 5A does indeed look like a great board that I will certainly look at on the channel. :) Due to ship Q2 2023 (which probably means Q2 or Q3 in today's world!).

  • @anthonyfmoss
    @anthonyfmoss Рік тому +1

    I realise this is a somewhat off the wall comment. In times past, countless English people used to go to Evensong at church and hear the vicar dressed in black intone the familiar words of the service. They knew the exact form of the words and where they would come. This was a source of great comfort to many. Nowadays, I an Englishman - and many others across the world - go to UA-cam on a Sunday evening to watch and listen to a man dressed in black, with a serious face and glasses intone very familiar words each week. We know whereabouts in the liturgy they come, especially the "blessing" at the end of the "service": "Thats it for another.........very soon". Am I the only one to find this very comforting? I particularly like the "sermons" on SBCs Rev Barnatt. Good one tonight vicar!

  • @oguzsavas1140
    @oguzsavas1140 Рік тому

    Thanks.

  • @qzorn4440
    @qzorn4440 Рік тому +1

    I ordered 1 orange pi 5 to run some astronomy software that works on the raspberry pi 4. Mmm. Now for a touch-screen and case. Then deal with the nuisance Bluetooth Wi-Fi issue maybe by March when it is to be delivered orange pi will have the rest of the product accessories. 🤔 thank you and nice benchmark info.

  • @novantha1
    @novantha1 Рік тому +4

    Interesting thought: Could you do a video on a simple ARM SBC cluster for code compilation, or perhaps common OpenCL tasks like blender renders? It would be a pretty affordable way to get a very efficient, fairly high core count system going, and is a probably not a huge jump in price once you've already got at least one SBC set up already.

  • @WalterW
    @WalterW Рік тому +20

    SBCs just keep getting better. One of my goals is to have all my computers as SBCs. So far about half of them are.
    Thanks for bringing all the wonderful information on SBCs!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +8

      A cool goal. :)

    • @WalterW
      @WalterW Рік тому

      @@ExplainingComputers thank you. The big one will be my FX and compositing computer.

  • @dirkpbroerdirkpbroer
    @dirkpbroerdirkpbroer 8 місяців тому +1

    There is now also an improved Orange Pi 5, the Orange Pi 5+ (or 5 plus) with a fully capable RK3588 -so not a RK3588S!

  • @JorgenHenningsen
    @JorgenHenningsen Рік тому +3

    I bought this product also and the one thing which impresses me is how cold it is running. I would very much like to see tests for the power usage.

  • @ffieditor
    @ffieditor Рік тому +2

    i real like this board. I don't like there no BT or missing Network but it still a well built made SBC. made the top 100 again!

  • @francis400
    @francis400 Рік тому +1

    Hooray for Mr. Scissors!

  • @markusfischhaber8178
    @markusfischhaber8178 Рік тому +1

    A promising board. I hope they manage to get a good os ecosystem

  • @keithmiller9665
    @keithmiller9665 Рік тому +4

    Thanks Chris, interesting video. Nice to see Kdenlive working in Ubuntu. Definitely worth considering. Lack of GPU hardware video encoding / decoding (e.g. h264) is a problem.

    • @NJHewitt
      @NJHewitt Рік тому +6

      HW decoding is available. Chromium, Kodi, vlc and mpv etc, all perfectly smooth after installing a gpu driver, which wasn't done in this video.
      Encoding... is technically available, but the makers don't officially support ffmpeg, apparently due to some licence reason. They want users to use gstreamer 🤢
      h265 and h264 real time encoding do work, but i'll wait til a community solution comes up and I can pipe to ffmpeg, and not wrestle with gstreamer.

  • @vicmac3513
    @vicmac3513 Рік тому +64

    Finally a daily drive-ready sbc! Hopefully hospitals, schools etc are moving into these and nerds start building AIO's for their elders.
    Hopefully Risc V and RasPi can strike back before the end of the year.
    And pure quality video, as always!

    • @MartinBogomolni
      @MartinBogomolni Рік тому +2

      If only it was at the CORRECT price point of a Pi4 4Gb/8Gb. I'd pay that. Cost effective replacement for a Pi4 for industrial computing would be very welcome.

    • @fredrik241
      @fredrik241 Рік тому +2

      Eben said they won't do a '5' this year but I think probably during 2024.
      Iv'e just ordered an Orange Pi 5 to tinker with.

    • @vicmac3513
      @vicmac3513 Рік тому

      Yes I listened to his interview, but I just jope these other releases makes them to invest money for production. Hopefully CM4 comes back to stock before they're lost in competition too.
      Hopefully RasPi5 has Risc-V with in-house production in Wales.

    • @theprogram863
      @theprogram863 Рік тому +1

      @@MartinBogomolni Economies of scale only go so far. RPi and OPi aren't all _that_ far off on the price/performance curve, but it's a steep part of the curve. That said, if you're worried, just wait n*18 months and price will come down as much as you want.

    • @theprogram863
      @theprogram863 Рік тому

      I would LOVE to see RISC-V take a big position in the MCU and SBC markets so we finally get some for-real OSHW. That, an open source GPU/NPU, and an open source FPGA. Plus toolchains. It's insane that x86's all run a whole second OS at the firmware level with absolutely no transparency whatsoever. That said, the real issue is OS/software support. Both at release and in future years. Raspberry Pi has been brilliant about supporting even their legacy hardware for a very long time. I'll take a hit in performance or pay a little more in price, but the moment you need your own developers just to keep existing stuff working, it starts being more cost effective to dump the whole thing and switch to a better-supported platform.

  • @CXensation
    @CXensation Рік тому +1

    Nice !

  • @zakaria-_1154
    @zakaria-_1154 Рік тому +2

    اشتقت لفديوهاتك القديمة في بداياتك❤💙💙
    old subscriber
    thank's for all your explaining

  • @IppodoTea327
    @IppodoTea327 11 місяців тому +1

    I always like the blue color motherboard.

  • @juanignacioaschura9437
    @juanignacioaschura9437 Рік тому

    Of all people, YOU kind sir were the only one who bothered to tell the differences between the two Rockchip RK3588 variants. Not even handheld gaming console tech UA-camrs were able to report on this, and other Linux channels that covered the FydeTab Duo also omitted the details. Thank you so so much.

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY Рік тому +1

    Ah man my favorite day and it's about a mini computer a Orange Pi 5 have a nice week

  • @123anonymous456
    @123anonymous456 Рік тому +3

    @ExplainingComputers: Given the current energy price hikes, it would be *very interesting* to see the typical required wattage for different systems (both when idle and under heavy load), especially since you already have _numerous_ (similar) SBC to compare!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +1

      Indeed! I did a video on energy use more broadly (including some SBCs) last year -- with relatively little interest: ua-cam.com/video/rGUnsiivqeU/v-deo.html

  • @CCoburn3
    @CCoburn3 Рік тому +1

    Looks good. It's interesting they have a 16MGB option.

  • @neilthomas6042
    @neilthomas6042 Рік тому

    An interesting video, I’ve seen the Orange Pi in AliExpress and wondered what it was like and you gave an answer. Been caught out on a couple of items on AliExpress, so a bit wary of buying stuff on the site. If I do get some extra cash, I could buy one in the future.

  • @IanRoss-dt1xg
    @IanRoss-dt1xg Рік тому +6

    [17:30] They're not apples. They're green peppers

  • @1George2
    @1George2 Рік тому

    very cool SBC! may be now with better SW support as well....

  • @pavan13
    @pavan13 Рік тому +1

    Great Video

  • @sid_gm1949
    @sid_gm1949 Рік тому +1

    And here we meet again
    Greetings!

  • @pasqualesorrentino4472
    @pasqualesorrentino4472 Рік тому +2

    Believe it or not, in the exact moment the video came out, I was searching for a video about this board

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  Рік тому +1

      Spooky!

    • @Furzkampfbomber
      @Furzkampfbomber Рік тому

      Why do I have the X-Files melody stuck in my head now? Well, at least it comes along with a mental image of Scully. :)