What I couldn't say on the BBC
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Yesterday Oli was invited onto BBC One prime time to talk politics.
He and Ava react to some of the talking points.
Presenters: Oli Dugmore, Ava Santina
Camera: Shawnee Linstead, Oli Johnson, Joanne George
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As a woman of 75, I am not charmed by being called a "young man" because I subscribe to PoliticsJOE.
on the flip side, I'm a 43 year old man and I am quite chuffed to be called "young" :D
Calm down youngin ~78 year old
😂❤👏
Good on you Diana for looking for multiple sources of news. Some people are glued to one channel.
Yes unchallenged
I'm a boomer. I turned 70 on Saturday, but I'm definitely in your camp. My daughter has given me 4 grandchildren, with a 5th due any day now. The future will ultimately be in their hands. They will hopefully change the world, and you are in the vanguard of that movement. We must overcome the outdated and clearly flawed idea that with age comes wisdom. Please keep up the good work.
So you seriously think a 20 year old has as much wisdom as a 70 year old, the future was in your hands once , what did you do ?
Gave birth to a daughter that has created a huge carbon footprint with five kids
@@voodoochile333 antinatalists are weird. You consume more than them. Why don't you just delete yourself?
@@petermartinaitis8166 Please describe your understanding of the word 'wisdom'. Otherwise, go away.
@@voodoochile333 What on earth are you on about?
I've just turned 80, and it's a disgrace how housing is now virtually out of reach to those who share the profession I'm now retired from : primary school teaching. In my area of London I bought my flat as a single teacher, now two teachers couldn't afford it. There is something seriously wrong with our system, so all power to PoliticsJOE.
left_blank yeah who needs teachers anyway right? If they can't afford to live near the school they work at why don't they move hundreds of miles away and buy a house there instead...
@@unknown_name_389 Then who is going to teach London's children?
@left_blank so you don't think primary school aged children should go to school? If they all change jobs as you suggest, who teaches those children?
@@wanklefish Nobody. Then market forces come in and push wages up or rents down. Isn’t that how it is supposed to work ?
@@ifanmorgan8070 maybe in some sectors, but relying on market forces when it comes to the long term planning involved in training the next generation seems like a very risky thing to do. Market forces typically favour short term returns over longer timeframes (like in the stock market), which is an innapropriate risk to take when we're talking about timeframes measured in decades.
I thought kuennesberg's remark "aimed largely at young men" was a good opening gambit for her. It sounds like a blatant attempt to stereotype your audience as trouble makers. Perhaps I'm biased though, she always rubs me up the wrong way.
well said, the comment was reminiscent of how snidey journos level the same "accusation" at J Peterson.
If you wanted to aim a channel at young men it would be porn
I didn't think Politics Joe was "aimed largely at young men" but what do I know! JOE, may or may not have been but I don't really see how the politics offshoot is, if you've watched more than a couple of clips on the channel.
She could have gone full-on culture war and said ‘young men of fighting age’ 😂
No, it was something that rubbed me the wrong way. We dont have newspaper editors introduced like “largely caters to old white men”
I’m 53 my partner is 55 and we watch you all the time and agree with you. How can she say only young me. Watch you.
Absolutely.
2010 National debt £1 billion - There's no money left
2023 National debt £2.5 billion - Turns out, that there was lots of money left, but where did it go.... cause Tories didn't spend t on the NHS, services, education, patching up pot holes....
asking on behalf of Michelle Mone
It's trillions not billions. I suppose you could say £1000 billion or 2500 billion though.
@@mattygroves21478 my bad.... i was broke before, but now you've scared me.....
@@czarekp3552 The UK National Debt is indeed frightening.
@@mattygroves21478 in the 70s they used to use the one thousand million to mean a billion, if we use that phrasing then our debt is Two and a half million, million pounds. By shortening it to billion and trillion it doesn't seem so bad but when the richest person in the world is worth two hundred thousand million dollars, you gotta ask how rich do you need to be and why aren't they taxed more because they can always outbid and outprice any normal people on the assets like housing.
@@DoktorLorenz
The moon is 1/4 million miles away. It takes a second for light from earth to reach it, and a car travelling at 60mph, 6 months to reach it. Saturn is 3/4 billion miles away from us. Light from earth takes an hour and a half to get there, and 375years for the car. The national debt is £2.5 Trillion. 2.5 Trillion miles is half a light year and the car would take 1.25 million years to drive that far.
The fact that we'll likely see trillionaires in our lifetimes beggars belief, and is disgusting.
I’m 64. I watch all the Sunday politics programmes through gritted teeth these days. So many people are frightened to step out and say what needs to be said. Lots of fence sitting under the guise of being fair.
I agreed with everything you said 👍🏻
I’m the same age as yourself, but I don’t think it’s so much to do with people being frightened what they say,
I think the truth is , unfortunately that,
It’s more to do with media selectivity . They don’t like people who rock the boat, getting to close to the truth.
@@robertheap2911 the concept you’re describing is the Manufacture of consent through media
@@jaykaygxd8497 Very possibly or blocking those , who don’t aspire to the narrative 🧐
@@robertheap2911 I'm talking about all the politicians and commentators they get on every week. People continually sit on the fence, won't nail their colours to the mast.
@@MrChrisWhitten I understand what your saying Chris, I’ve noticed that myself. I think though , that the mainstream media and the BBC now , unfortunately, has let’s say tweaked its guidelines . To the extent of following the current narratives and making it difficult for any so called controversy to take place. And it might also be the calibre of guest. How is it for example, you don’t see enough of Peter Hitchens now from the Right wing, who doesn’t mince his words , regarding politics of the day. And Jeremy Corbyn is not invited on these programs ; almost a forgotten man. And you don’t see George Galloway on mainstream do you. There are many others, but you have to go on UA-cam now to see anything of them. Whether I agree with certain people or not, I welcome their voice and opinions as a democratic right. I saw Peter Hitchens for example debating the merits of the war in Ukraine, which he fervently disagrees with. So it’s not a Left wing thing for example. And George Galloway speaks his mind just like Tony Benn used to do . But he has to host his own UA-cam channel .
As a young person, I really appreciate the comments from older generations who recognise our experience when it comes to both renting and owning a home. I don't want to take away from anyone, and hopefully there is a balance and one day home ownership and a home having value will not be a political issue.
As a young man soon to be receiving my pension, I'm able to see how difficult it is to rent let alone buy a home. We really need more of this information on the media.
That point you guys made on the government reimbursing train companies, etc... it's HUGELY significant and I have never heard about it before. And I listen to Today and World At One / PM almost every day.
Me too. What a shock!
As an “ older “ person of 48 we are all being shafted , I’ve always worked and never been able to afford to buy a house , and I’m a teacher of 20 years
It doesn’t matter what you actually are paid. The rich own the distribution of the goods you need to live. - food, heat shelter. & as long as they can increase those the money you are paid might as well be play money. Watch the bail out that’s not the bail out all across Europe. "We are going to increase the money supply to ensure inter bank liquidity" The just made the money in everyone’s pocket worth less…
I am 46 and I damaged my spine at work, been disabled I have found it hard to get the help I need, doctors are so over run your just a number these days.
I always wanted my own home but it's always been out of reach even tho I have worked all my life till I became disabled
Oli was absolutely right about having to move to other urban centers to get the best jobs.
I live in Sheffield and had to look in Leeds, Manchester and Derby for jobs after graduating from a masters.
I eventually had to commute ever day to Derby at immense cost to myself while stuck on low grad wages. All I can say is thank god for the pandemic and working from home which made me nearly £4000 a year better off.
Honestly, after seeing how the workplace operates. Picking agency staff over younger people, managers chasing figures when they could do a much better job listening to people. I'm solidly in the camp of silent quitting, the UK wastes talent. Companies should be insentifised to value their own.
A lot of us had to go abroad. That was not he idea - but it is what has happened. And it's been happening in my case for more than 30 years. The levelling up has just not happened. And it never will.
For what it’s worth, I faced the same for my engineering jobs.
I don’t understand the problem. Why didn’t you move to Derby? I’m from North London and I’m sure rent/buying there is very cheap
@bulbulonOnEbayUK Very good question, it's all really usual stuff, my partner worked and still works in Sheffield plus all my friends and family are there.
Also it would have been risky to move while in the probation period for that job. That finished after the start of lockdown which made moving unnecessary due to wfh.
You are spot on I am the older generation and I know and see how difficult it is for the younger generation. We sold to get votes and forgot to build more.
We did not forget to build it was policy not to build and to privatise any thing that was or was not bolted down .
No one forgot to build more. It was a deliberate policy to create an artificial scarcity of housing, so hedge funders/ landlords with a property portfolio could see their investments always keep growing in value. Also, when Thatcher allowed council houses to be sold off, there was a deliberate policy to not have any more council houses built, so the stock of social housing was forced to shrink.
@@nickjanczak9665 100% correct and Blair did the same
@@tommyrotton9468 Thatcher called Blair her ''greatest achievement'' and he was - made in the likeness of herself. That man should be in prison for war crimes, amongst other things.
@@nickjanczak9665 Blair was far worse than Thatcher, he outwardly did Thatcherism, but secretly he introduced communism into the legal system. All the hate laws, woke laws, Human rights being more important than common law, the immigration crisis, all started with the secret Blair laws.
When Boris got the 80 seat majority he should have destroyed every Blair law ever made rather than double down on them :(
In my 60s and the more I watch what is happening in the UK I am glad that I moved to Spain a few months after the Brexit result. Would not like to be in my 20/30s as I do not see how things can get better in the next decade or so.
This is because of failure to build housing in the 80s and 90s.
I am 69 a woman and love watching Joe, they voice my views.
Nice.
Ditto me too
In my 50's (Gen X) and I am so so glad I never had kids. I feel sorry for younger generation. Growing up in the 1970's and 1980's, even though there were many many issues (and an underlying pervasive feeling that the world was going to end in a nuclear war in the not too distant future) I always felt that overall, the big picture/socially/culturally etc the world was learning and going to get better and better in coming years. The problem with now is that I can't see any hope for the future. In almost every area things are getting worse and worse, with no light at the end of the tunnel. Completely agree with young people being largely disregarded politically too - which sucks as we all tend to get naturally more risk adverse as we age - and big risk is needed to make real big changes in the path the world seems to be on.
I hear you Ruth. We GenX were perhaps the last analogue generation. I got into technology at a young age but life was far from dominated by it. I too did not breed and I'm quite smug about it. When I skid off this mortal coil, I'll leave no mess. I need not apologise to Greta, her parents should apologise to Mother Earth. Humans are basically a cancer on this planet. The kindest thing one can do is not to procreate.
P.S. I remember "Threads (1984)" as I'm sure you do. I joined CND the day after watching it.
Attestupa then?
@@MerlynMusicman No ones stopping you, I'll be glad to help.
GenX here, you've totally captured my experience too... ours is a weird generation- as significant senior (not elderly) people- headmaster, managers etc were war veterans when we were children....and I recall Street partys for the silver jubilee in 1977. I left the UK when I was 29, and as an older mother, I've raised my kids to be politically aware- and I'll badger their mates to vote and to question the status quo. I have the utmost faith in these young people, they're far more switched on than I was at that age
I think of the "old boys" that died in world war 2, they would be turning in there graves the state of this country
I'm 56 semi-retired, I found you a breath of fresh air on that show. Lets hope you get more time on shows like that.
1965/66. The peak of the UK babyboom.
@@stephfoxwell4620 1967
Laura is very disappointing, they way she lets the big guns get away with anything, in utter fear of them not booking back on is disgusting. She needs to realise how important her role is, in holding these people to account, Raab etc had such an easy ride.
She's disgusting
Because she is part of the Tory Scum
She is very well aware how important her role is. That's why she sides with the big guns. She sees it as her job to keep ordinary people ignorant and to promulgate the propaganda. So do those who employ and pay her.
you need to understand that legacy media journalists in this country (and most others), are buddies with political class, without option to opt out. And independent journalists usually are kept for mockery, and presenting them like some kind of extreme side.
She's a propagandist.
Well im 64 and i think Politics Joe and Ollie Dugmore (if that his name) are the best thing to come along in terms of political outlook/analysis and younger people for a very, very long time. In fact right now it's crucial. Keep it up Joe.
I'm in my 50's, I still can't afford a mortgage, 1 wage family, my better half is disabled, we have two kids. I've got two hopes of affording a mortgage, one of which is Bob & he's dead. So our younger generations are not alone in this.
I'm a 76 year old subscriber and really enjoy your chats. I also thought you acquitted yourself very well on the BBC on Sunday. Keep up the good work
Laura has a talent for filling up an entire show while saying absolutely nothing. I don't agree with everything you guys say, or "new media" but at least you actually say something coherent which isn't "maybe this, maybe that, who knows?"
She has to say nothing. If she spoke the truth her tory masters would ensure her career is finished.
I was watching on Sunday morning
Thought you talked a lot of sense within an extremely limited timescale
Subscribed immediately on the basis of your views
Great job !!!
I'm 67 next week and I fully support your point of view. I know from the experiences of my children how difficult it is to make your way in the world today. Keep up the good work in combatting the right-wing mainstream media.
Yeah I am 51, middle class have father 78 also middle class. We vote labour. We believe in the strikes, taxes for rich and we are on your side. I think my only criticism is the younger generations dont vote as much. I have voted in every single election at any level since I was 18, So please vote and then this awful govt will be out. Then we push for proper PR. Then this extreme change every decade will stop. Us left of centre oldies cant do it without you "young uns". So yes its your future and with 3 kids myself I am well aware of that. VOTE
I am a Boomer. All that means is I was born between 1945 and 1965. It does NOT define my politics, my compassion, my awareness of problems for the younger generation.
What does infuriate me is this belief that I am well off, that I own property. Not ALL Boomers had the opportunity to buy property. Some of us actually grew up in genuine poverty.
Remember too the Boomers supported the legalising of being Gay, They were supporters of what we called "Women's Lib." We are NOT all Conservative supporters. Many of us abhor them. I consider myself a centre-left, social democrat. I support the NHS, the Right to strike, and Free Speech.
Please don't judge all Boomers by SOME Boomers attitudes. That's like me saying everyone under 30 are violent, selfish, thick, knife wielding vandels.
That would be unfair wouldn't it?
To be fair I also find the repeated attempt by SOME in my generation to criticize the older generation reductive, to say the least. I am incredibly grateful to those who fought for the rights I now have as a gay man who's knocking on the door of his thirties (here's hoping they are retained as the conversation regarding LGBTQ+ rights has got particularly nasty again). I would argue though that it is fair to say, and the research does tend to show this, that older generations have drained the assets of this country and are hoarding them more so than in previous decades and are far more likely to support parties that will benefit them retaining said wealth. It is understanable that those who are so disillusioned and grew up with a new labour government (that launched us in to a series of wars) that then swapped to a tory government just as we became fully politically conscious, are furious and looking for who to blame. Sadly, your entire generation then becomes the focal point of the ire rather than the ruling class.
I think it would be fairer to not just smear the entire generation, the majority of people do know it isn't ALL boomers. Much the same as most reasonable boomers know that not all millennials and gen z are lazy layabouts. The problem we have is culture wars and intergenerational conflict play right into Tory hands and they are going to continue to stoke it for as long as possible. Sunak is clearly not stupid, he knows what he is doing (trying to stop his party from collapsing rather than focusing on the country). I dread the upcoming election period in late 24 early 25, the culture wars are already this rough now and when the tories are fighting desperately to stop their party sinking in to irrelevance they seemingly are going to go hardcore on Asylum and Trans rights, lucky us.
@@JosherooI have got to set you right re:Blair. He was voted in 3 times in a row! The Blair years were the best time for our country, they were the actual times when we REALLY had never had it so good. The wealth was shared around the country, women had equal rights, to have a child out of wedlock (live in sin) was accepted. We were a happy nation, great music, Tories were just like pompous nobodies, but they were plotting, they voted for the wars as well as many Labour MP's. Blair listen to the USA, namely Republican President, George Bush. Our "Special Relationship", was pushed by Bush. UGH!
Thanks for mentioning Rob Burrow and Kevin Sinfield, I wish rugby league was more popular and their names were more out there
My rent in London went up 25% last year. Our landlord has just contacted us to say it will go up another 25% this year. That's 62% in a year. The power bill alone is five times what it was, let alone food etc. My pay hasn't budged. Frankly, it's hard to be anything other than completely depressed.
Thanks Laura, Been a while since I’ve been called a young man.
Paying £975 for a room in London… from £650…. It’s just too much man… I’m at my wits end
Ouch!
I definitely not a leftist, I would say I’m more in the centre. I don’t agree with you on everything but can’t be more grateful for the work your doing. Thank you!
What Oli says about TikTok and tech company surveillance is absolutely 100% bang on, it is so much more than people realise and its not discussed at all in mainstream media. Would have been good to see him talk about this on the show
Also I'm one of those sad fuckers who consume a lot of political content - and this discussion is absolutely top class, both in the sort of topics covered and the depth and nuance that they are dealt with
As a boomer, I couldn't agree more with you. Thatcher and her successors may have (to use Nye Bevan's words) stuffed my mouth with gold, but thta comes nowhere close to buying my vote. And I'm not alone: not everyone becomes a Tory on receipt of their pension.
I'm 60 and have always rented. Housing is an issue affecting every generation.
I am 71 and I believe in the youth!....The youth of UK arehaving a hard time,my life time was so far easier and p.s am a leftie
I watched live and thought Oli came across really well. Talked smartly about social media and A.Tate.
I am an old git,69 in April, and I feel so sorry for those younger types!
Excellent video! Would be nice to see more of you guys and your opinion on broader issues like this.
55 year old woman and could not love this channel more. Thank you
I'm 64, I live in France on my works pension. My current house was paid for with half of the profits from the sale of my UK house.
Bought for 65,000 sold twenty three years later for 320,000.
I was a recipient of a phenomenal change in social circumstances.
I am not proud of myself but its not my fault, I struggled for fifteen years to afford my mortgage then found that I had an asset that I couldn't afford to keep in retirement. No one sells a house for less than it is "worth" but I am very aware that my good fortune has been a significant factor in the problems of younger generations, but what can I do.
If I had 70 million like Sunak I could give some money away, but I'm not rich, just lucky, but guilty and ashamed.
It’s £700 million, but your arguments still stand, only much more so.
You took advantage of the situation you were in. You made a smart business move. I would have done the same.
It's dog eat dog out there, look after number 1.
It's a systemic thing, the people who set it up are responsible for that.
Don't feel bad Brian, you did what you could and it's unlikely you caused any suffering, unlike the banks that offer those mortgages.
Enjoy your retirement
Housing, I'm GenX, and I know how lucky I am. By the time I got to buy a house I could only just afford to do it. I have no idea how young people today manage it. Something needs to change before the system gets worse
Would like to see you talk more often, both of you are thought provoking and interesting.
I'm 60 year old woman and I have a son of 24, I don't think he'll be leaving for his own home anytime soon affording a mortgage or rent seems impossible for him at the moment and he has a masters degree in politics. I'm also one of those 'young men' ??? subscribed to politics Joe 😂
Great to see you invited on LK on Sunday. House prices have now gone beyond a joke. Thatcher killed any hope for the poor and the young to ever own a house. My dad bought a house back in 1958 for £650. He sold it 18 months later as the row of houses were due for demolition. The house is still there and probably now worth £200,000.
Home ownership increased under Thatcher.
@@BENTWOONEZERObecause she allowed people to buy up, the social housing then never provided anymore. Thus creating more colour TV Tories. All part of the divide and conquer.
Thatcher did not, this was all down to Warmongerer Blair and his NEW Labour.
The anecdote about your dad is irrelevant though, nothing stopping him buying another at the time was there
That £650 in 1958 is now £18,647.21 in today's money
I really want to see more of you and Ava talking please.
There were things you could have delved much deeper into.
Thank you.
I'm 61and watched on Sunday, like I do most weeks, and you made some valid points. The budget was a complete non event for the overwhelming majority. For example, where are the energy market reforms needed and promised to bring the actual cost down?
I'm 55 and I fully support you views. I would say that the buying up of lower price properties by Landlords and developers is a massive issue that has a huge knock on affect
I will be 65 in May & I love politics Joe, keep up the great work 😃😃👍❤
Very good reflection of the interview format, useful analysis of the current strike strategy of the current government
Is politics Joe mainly geared towards young men ? Or young people ? Or ? Maybe I'm just an older guy watching thinking it's geared towards anyone who is interested in politics 🤔
geared toward lefties
Me too, I don't imagine as many young people would be watching the interview with Ian Hislop as older people.
@@MrSilverPants68 Yeah, younger people.
@@mattygroves21478 Millennials, generation Z is far more right wing than the previous generation.
@@urmum3773 is [sic] they? Any examples to back that claim up?
I watch never miss the show god l feel young and informed. Watching from Scotland peace and love to all
Oli was right about housing and the young. I am now retired but it was my parents generation who bought their council houses at a cheep rate, then sold them to private landlords which in turn make a profit from those who can't afford to buy a house......the grand children of those former council house tenants.
@@tabularasa7775 it's not just grandchildren as the first comment says either, it's first gen kids (myself) of that gen and the poor and singles or those who genuinely are sick and cannot work so can no longer save for a home. It's simply capitalism, make the state smaller and make it a free for all and f*ck anyone who can't manage. The decision is bigger than housing, its who are we as a society and the boomers post war and Churchill had atlee a socialist government with the introduction of the nhs and benefits that followed as well as social housing which had always been part of britain but we threw it all down the drain with thatcher as we sought or rather some did the Reagan ism 'British dream' but for the majority it's as hamster wheel of a nightmare
@@tabularasa7775 god who cares. Don’t you just want people to have housing? Stop being bitter and advocate for affordable housing for everyone
@@tabularasa7775 As much as it's frustrating, blaming the poor will never fix anything. Let's keep the focus on the politicians and elites who can actually fix these problems.
...and they continue to sell the farkin council houses when they know what's happening. Madness.
I dream of a day when a politician has the nerve to say “Your house prices will go down, because we are going to build the houses we need”.
The trouble is Britain has people obsessed with owning rather than renting
@@skyblazeeterno yeah, it’s the concession that means the government can get away with everything else. Fake wealth.
Refreshing to see such comprehensive, contemporary and coherent analysis in all your videos. Congratulations all involved in producing something worthwhile in a media landscape full of sludge.
The rail strike isn’t about the money - every one of them I’ve spoken to on my commute says it’s about the terms and conditions of the framework the government wants to put in place as part of the Grant Schapps white paper
“ the world gets better when old people plant trees that they will never live long enough to appreciate the shade from”
Yes. I'm.doing that. 😊
@@patcampton7163 👍
At 6:10 If anyone tells you there is no money - whether its at work or politics - it often means 'there's a queue and we've moved you to the back of it'.
Ask them where new money comes from
I'm a month short of becoming an OAP and I don't get my news from legacy media. The propaganda is just too strong.
Grand parents are very worried about the younger generation!
Hope you get invited on those programmes more. You talk more sense in the allotted time than most of those talking heads who go on.
There is nothing wrong with a policy that limits or reverses house price rises. A house should not be an asset, it should be considered a public good with the only thing determining the cost being the number of beds, the location and the associated land.
If people want to consider it an asset, then they should be prepared for that asset to lose value, just like every other investment vehicle.
Been following you guys for years now on twitter and facebook, however i love these long form youtube videos, keep them coming!
I am 63 and subscribed to this channel some time ago.
I found it quite flattering to be described as a young male.
@Ron Ainley .. I’m 74 .. I’m more than flattered to be described as a young mail! I voted remain. I hate Tories. I predicted Boris would be a useless prick. I predicted Truss would be useless. She was worse than useless. Don’t always think pensioners are pro-Tory brexiters!
Intelligent, rational young people. Makes me feel better about the future.
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@@RobertShippey Oh dear.
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I am a 72 year old and have worked all my life, I’ve had three long term relationships and have held several successful jobs, I do love young people and understand the problems with this atrocious and parasitical government especially Johnson.
I have three pensions, one from fire service, one from the state and a small one from B&Q total income £20,000 now and if I want to work I get taxed.
The country is in a disgusting state and you are right on many points, however don’t alienate from people who aren’t in the wealthy.
The issues have been caused by Tory newspapers supporting Tory politics and to wealthy MPs in politics for themselves, there needs to be a massive change in the political system. DG
What annoys me is being in my mid thirties and called "young". No I'm not young. The problems faced by grown adults who by all means should be able to afford to raise families and own their own homes being chalked up to "young" issues is absurd and needs to stop being normalized. People in their mid thirties are often more than a decade into a career at this point.
A typical single bedroom flat rental in the midlands cost as much as mortgage payments would have cost for an entire three or four bedroom house in most parts of the country just 20 or 30 years ago.
People in their thirties that want to own a home that costs a modest £160,000 with a £32,000 deposit? Expect mortgage payments to be greater than £800 a month for a 25 year mortgage. About half the average take home pay in this country. You can then expect energy bills to be almost a quarter of take home pay. After bills most average Brits in their mid thirties have no money at all left at the end of the month. Considering that rents are usually more than mortgage payments, welll... You get the picture. Most spritely "young" people in their mid thirties can't afford to save for a £32,000 deposit. Then, if house prices increase by >10% a year it's a moving target.
It really frustrates me when media outlets chalk this up to "young people issues". It isn't. The other elephant in the room is our ageing demographic. What good is having your wealth tied up in your home? It's illiquid. You can't do your shopping or pay your bills with it. "Young" generations can't afford to start families or foot the healthcare costs of our ageing demographics indefinitely. Eventually the older demographic is going to have no choice but to convert those assets into liquidity to foot the healthcare bill. It's all a bloody mess.
You voted for more socalism you screwed yourself socalist . Socalism doesn't lead to more home ownership it never has. In vienna & Singapore 🇸🇬 90% of population live in public housing they don't own homes the government crooks do
As I understand it even accountants and lawyers can't afford to buy in 90% plus of the UK.
I watched this. Good job 👏 you
That first comment on housing was spot on and I think you spoke for most university graduates/professionally trained people under 30 very eloquently on that point 🫡
And those around 30 as well! Anyone born after 1988 has been screwed by the Tories since 2010.
Well done Oli, key issues, clear articulation of opinion and perspective. So refreshing!
Elderly geezer here and fan of the channel.
The saddest thing of all is people still think peterson is a great thinker of this age
To be clear... Peterson is straight-faced stand-up.
What is sadder is that you think your view matters in comparison to his genius. Where is your published body of work? Yeah, you don't have one do you .
@@ghostdog4330 don't you have shadows to bark at babes
@@ghostdog4330 Genius? The guy who only eats meat, is addicted to benzos, almost died due to it in Russia, now gets overly emotional and cries about everything, and tweets like 30 times a day about the most snowflake crap ever? "What does 'put' mean?" Truly one of the deepest thinkers of our time. Also weirdly obsessed with trans people and an illogical Christian. Go watch Steven Fry or Gad Sad tear him apart in debates. Actual smart people make Peterson look like the average mind that he is. He's just a grifter mate, try and be objective about him. He became famous regurgitating basic self help advice to incels. "Tidy your room" is truly groundbreaking stuff.
@@anfearaerach hello millennial npc. Have you met your pseudo-virtue signalling requirements for the day? The hive is disappointed by your slacking
Im 62. Woke lol. I'm aware and sympathetic. Shoot me. I did 43 years service for various govts. I despise what this cabal has done to this country. I'm glad I'm 60 done and not 60 to do. My children and grandchildren are debilitated by what they've done.
In 1987 I worked in as a road sweeper in Northampton and I was paid £8,000 a year. And I could buy a two bed house for £13000. Now a road sweeper probably is on £25,000 and the same house is worth £ 130,000.. It is so hard on youngsters these days, and we know those who live in cities have it even harder!!
Well done Oli! Keep up the good work!
Winner winner turnip for dinner
Loved your Andrew Tate bit. Well said. I'm raising teenage boys and I've had to deprogram a few of their mates. Hard work.
I wish people my age didn't like the walking skid mark that is Andrew Tate
Tate is a reaction to the systemic hatred of boys and men that has become mainstream over the past 20 years. The girls have been getting all the breaks while the boys just get kicked by the likes of the Guardian and the BBC. It’s hardly a surprise that nearly 57% of girls go into higher education, while barely 44% of boys do.
I have NO IDEA what generation I am but I was 62 yesterday and left the UK in 1986 with my girlfriend from council estate comprehensive school with my free-at-point-of-sale degree. We went to France via Saudi Arabia. Bloody marvellous 👍.
Well said guys it's so hard to see the tories take us down the crapper one we will never get out of
On a 12 week *DWP* self-employment course - in managed decline _Manchester_ - my business idea was to build 250,000 #affordable homes - thrown off after 1 hour
Loving the humanising of your show and tv news production via this video ❤
Top job from Oli as always. Hope to see more of him on BBC
Watched it live and was very interested to see you on their having been subscribed to this channel for a while (and I'm a bit older). I thought you came across really well.
Great video, I watched on Sunday and thought you expressed yourself very well, as usual...
Super impressed with this content. Thank you
60 + & you guys are the honest voice out there !
1st year Gen X, not quite a boomer, more houses are definitely needed for the young, I wouldn't care if our house lost all it's value, give the young a chance to live.
Like deployed 👍
I've started really to really like this channel. Really nice video guys -- thanks for putting this out there
I like that you ignored Laura's comment about catering mainly for a young male audience--interviewers like to try to undermine, make uncomfortable etc --
I am male and young( 65 ) haha
I am writing this before hearing what you say later about strategy of interviewers etc
I'm 75 years old and I say you were tight to have your say, and what you said, in my opinion, you were correct.
So informative! Much new awareness gained! Excellent video.Thanks!
Maybe if England followed Scotland with the inability to purchase social housing. Obviously this would only help if Councils in England were given funding to build new homes.
Look up the data for social housing stock in the UK on the ONS, specifically for houses (where Right To Buy has the most acute effect) since it was phased out in Scotland, Scotland has experienced year on year growth in council houses.
Whilst the rest of the country is still declining, they banned it in Wales recently but the ban hasn't come into effect yet, so do keep an eye out for how that will change in the coming years.
I happened to catch some of the Kunsberg show Sunday, I've not watched in a while. I'm probably not your expected demographic at 52, it's certainly a breath of fresh air seeing you on, I'd go back to watching if you were a regular guest.
You are spot on about the tory base voting for themselves, probably the most egoistic generation ever, when if ever are my parents generation going to vote for their grandchildren benefit?
I am an oap and I totally agree with you because I am thinking of the life my grandchildren will have if they can't get on the property ladder.
Enjoyed it all the same, thanks Oli.
One of things that is guaranteed to ensure that I and all future generations never get a home, is the fact that more elderly people are taking out equity against their homes. This equity essentially means another mortgage on their house, to be paid back on death or if the parent goes into a care home. That is going to lumber their children with either paying off the mortage, or selling the only house they could ever have. That is something to keep in mind, given how hard Key and other home equity companies are pushing this on television. On the one hand, they have the right to do so because it is their house, on the other, their decision condemns their children to be eternally in the rental sector, with ever increasing rents and no security.
Apologies Oli, but I couldn't bring myself to watch this live on Sunday morning. Much easier to watch this instead and keep my sanity intact.
Really liked this format. Thought provoking and interesting.
Happy 300K