YOu should do a Video on Laptops with Dedicated Graphics.. How much performance Hit do you take compared to Desktop Version.. Also Comment on RTX 2050 popping up on Laptops. Tried one out and it seemed dog slow to me..
@@RandomKiddVR because they already released a4070 ti, but then we also got a 4070 super out of nowhere and then even a 4070 ti super, that's what he's referencing / joking about, maybe there will even a super duper ;)
I had a 1080ti and I couldn't take it anymore. Picked up a 4090. I know the 5080 might be here soon... but history tells me there will be shortages, scalpers, and other BS that would've prevented me from getting one anyway.
Yup people seem to forget that happens each generation. It will be hard to find the cards when they first come out. That is a huge upgrade which should be good enough for years.
@MA-xb2yz for me I wanted the best of the best so I dont have to worry about any game I play, to do what consoles can't and play games in their native resolutions and not upscaled, to play at the settings I want, to play with cheats and mods.
I had a 1080 that I replaced with a used 7900xtx for about 900usd with tax back in January. I had upgraded each generation before that, 780 to 980 to 1080, because the performance was so much better and the price still relatively reasonable. Now I plan on keeping my 7900xtx possibly as long as my 1080. Even if the 5080/90 had twice the performance of the 7900xtx, I wouldn’t consider it because of price and power connector concerns.
@@ProtectusCZ Indeed, there are rumors that the RTX 5080 will be like a 4090. The 80 and above segment is the only that will see some improvements. I may just buy the top RDNA4 if it has 4080 Super performance for 4K with 1080p FSR for the last 2 PS5 generations, including the PS5 Pro. The 5070 may cost $699 and if it comes with 12 GB VRAM and same performance as a 4070 Ti Super...nope.
@@takehirolol5962You obviously paid no attention to GPU news in the last months if you think that RDNA4 will feature a GPU that comes even close to a 4080 Super
@@ProtectusCZ Not only that, but scalpers will fuck us all at the start anyway. Nvidia doesn't give a fuck about gamers anymore lol, they're only really interested in AI and their commercial market.
The new GPUs are just going to slot in between the existing product stack. Prices aren't going to change, maybe a little bit but nothing much. I hope I'm wrong and we get drastic price changes. I think the 4080 super should be halved in price maybe even more (the cheapest 4080 super i can get here in stores is over 1300usd(with tax)), I'd probably get it if it's around 500 usd.
The reason to shop AMD at $500 or less. Ray tracing isn't ready for prime time even on Nvidia's high end. Until it's done right I am not too concerned with it. That is Nvidia's only advantage for gamers, the rest of Nvidia's special and expensive features us scurvy gamers have no clue how to use.
I just bought an MSI Gaming X Slim RTX 4070 Ti Super from MicroCenter this weekend for $783 (open box - $870 MRSP). Playing Halo Infinite using out-of-box settings (no frame generation with most settings on high), I'm getting a max 180 FPS in-game, and about 300 FPS in the menu screen, even though I capped the FPS to 144 FPS, along with V-Sync ON to match my monitor's refresh rate. It does not cap in Halo Infinite and drawing over 200 watts of power. In Halo MCC's Combat Evolved, with most of the settings on high without frame generation, I was able to cap it to 120 FPS drawing 28 watts, but before I did that, it was going all the way up to 900 FPS drawing 79 watts. The card also runs very cool and have not gone above 62 deg C in Halo Infinite, which pushes other graphics cards to 78 deg C. This MSI card is a real winner with NO NEED to get anything more expensive. The funny thing is, running Unigine Heaven Benchmark on this card (on a Ryzen 9 5900X) vs the Arc A770 16GB card on another PC (with a Ryzen 7 5800X), both cards returned scores only 2 points apart. The RTX 4070 Ti Super came back with 361 max FPS, while the Arc A770 16GB came back with 363 max FPS. I still believe the Arc A770 16GB card is the best bang for the buck, but the drivers are still very immature, but are getting better. Still, I am very happy with the RTX 4070 Ti Super and is a real beast of a card with reasonable power usage. Buy open-box if you can find it at your local MicroCenter.
@@dangahagan7645 not only that but from my experience my 4070 super is good for 4k Id personally say 4k for regular games 1440p with RT but this thing is a beast TBH 120fps is my goal and either 4k or 1440p I can max most games out and not worry with DLSS Q cyberpunk max 1440p w path tracing for example gets me around 50-70 fps no FG only DLSS Q and ray reconstruction DLSS balanced gets me over that 60fps mark consistently of course my card is mildly OCed too
By modt games do you mean only Alan Wake 2? Atleast look up before you say bullshit 🤦♂️ anyways I'd rather have my gpu play all games at the best graphics if im gonna be paying anything more than $400-500 for it. Extra raster performance is useless at the higher end than having 2-3% more fps when you're already getting 100+ fps
@@elderman64 By modt games I mean most games. Atleast look up before you say bullshit. XD Looks like 42 other people share my opinion. It's embarrassing to be forced to use upscaling and fg on a 1000€ card to get above 60fps.
Wtf are you talking about a 4070 super already does 4k 60+ fps path tracin, let alone ray tracim. Hell the 3070 already does 1440p 60+ fps ray tracing. 😂
Here in Sweden, I find it kind of crazy that people by default choose nvidia cards, even at the low- to mid-range. It really must be due to nvidia marketing and mind share. I mean when I bought my RX6800 it was the same price as a 3060Ti, even in RT they the RX6800 performs better... At the high-end I can understand going for nvidia, but when you go for cards around 600EUR or below it just doesn't make much sense. (this comment is broadly generalized of course, and during certain sales you could potentially get a good nvidia-deal in the mid-range as well)
This is true, everyone here in Italy also defaults to Nvidia and Intel for CPUs, doesn't make much sense at the low-mid range, but i think from the 600EUR mark Radeon's value start to decrease, yes i can grab a 7900GRE for 550, but is it worth? for 50 more i could get a 4070S which is a tad bit slower in raster, but comes with a MASSIVE feature set compared to Radeon and a ton more of performance in RT. Obviously this is just hypothetical since every single user has a different need.
@@zantep3734 The RT performance of a 4070s is still terrible though, even though its much better than the amd equivalent. I really dont get the argument about ray tracing on budget nvidia cards, they are far too weak to be worth using RT. I wouldnt use RT on anything less than a 4080.
AMD cards run much hotter, consume more power and ultimately perform worse... as someone who owned three cards 6700, 6800 and 6900XT, the move to Nvidia was incredible
This whole computer cost me 600.00 and with a 4060 16 GB of vengeance ram thermaltake 600 Gold rated power supply antec case asrock b560 motherboard i3 10100f and i been playing Alan Wake ll and the Fallout games Alan Wake ll 1440p high setting with DLSS Quality looks great feels great.
I just upgraded from my RX 6650 XT to a RX 7900 GRE, best choice I ever made this card is a beast. (In my country Nvidia is extremely expensive - So I'm AMD all the way)
@@elirantuil5003 I was playing on a 1440p monitor (I upgraded my monitor first), it's a very good upgrade the RX 6650 XT can't run games at 1440p at high settings since it's a 1080p card, but the RX 7900 GRE has no issues what so ever at running all games at max settings at 1440p.
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Cyberpunk 2077 real wrold testing, the 7800 XT clocked 142 fps at 1080p using the high-quality preset, making it 9% faster than the RTX 4070. This difference expands to 16% at 1440p and then 22% at 4K. RX 7800 XT offers competitive performance, and it undercuts the RTX 4070 in terms of price. However, The RTX 4070 has a broader feature set, including technologies like RTX (ray tracing) and DLSS 3.0, Nvidia’s drivers generally offer better game compatibility (apparently), experienced gamers know high average FPS alone isn’t enough; stability, noise levels, and features matter but we're talking about 3 fans on the AMD product and 1 on the FE edition NVidia card.
Good take as usual, but I wanted to send out a note about something I wasn't aware of until recently: apparently Bethesda games work extremely well with AMD's Fluid Motion Frames so people are getting 300-500FPS (at 1440p at least) using a 7900XTX with heavily-modded Fallout 4 or Skyrim SE with Reshade and/or ENB. Not sure of the CPUs being used.
I'm building a new PC, upgrading from a 1080 Ti. I chose the 4080 super as a placeholder until the 5090 comes out. I usually go top of the line, but the 4090 doesn't make sense at this point.
I bought 4080 Super just a month ago in spite knowing that 5000 series were on the way. I'd rather game this summer and have a good time than wait 6 months or even more for a better GPU. Even then, next gen isn't going to have that much better performance usually they are better by 35% which isn't a lot.
@@_whitewizard Considering just how well high end 3000s cards kept their value it's not a bad idea to sell them for an upgrade as well. But as to why 3000s kept their value so high it could be attributed to their insane cost during the shortage. But still it ain't the worst.
Exactly this, plus i can get one at almost msrp ($5 difference) right now. I live in canada and the msrp is 1364 and the one im looking to buy is currently 1369
depending on range, i believe in mid tier i say get 7800xt/7900gre /4070 super if u cannot afford 4070ti super ,rest of the cards are not worth,and if u got enough funds get 4090
Curious to see where AMD's 7000 series will end up. The 6000 series had some shining stars after initial price drops. Everything from the RX 6600 to RX 6800 was best in class for the last two years or so. Will the RX 7700xt drop to $325? The RX 7800xt drop to $450? If so, watch out.
i just bought a 408016 bg because the 4070 wasnt cutting it. the vram starvation is really a pain when working with AI. Considered waiting, but the way the market goes to insanity when new cards come out, i picked peace instead of waiting for the churn.
Lowest price of an RTX4080 (non Super) in my country : 1250 euros. 12v adapter or new power supply (that natively supports 12v cable) costs not included. Lowest price of an RTX4080 Super in my country ? : a cool 1450 euros. Again 12v adapter or new power supply (that natively supports 12v cable) costs not included. The average price of an RX7900XTX in my country : 1040 euros. No adapters or power supply change needed. I want a GPU that i plug in, turn on my system and get immediate results in 1440p all maxed out settings with high frame rates. No need to cripple my FPS with RT since i don't use nor care for it yet. When the time comes, where all GPUs do a very good job at RT with high, smooth and consistent FPS without the need to upscale, then i will be turning that feature on. For now, i won't use Upscaling to have HALF of my normal FPS in order to use a gimmick. Sorry. Knowing how GPU launches go, the shortages and the scalping? I went for the 7900xtx brand new. I've waited for this chance for a while, right when the market is kinda saturated with GPUs, new generations will be launching in a while, but still the prices aren't dropping because the MSRPs are so high. Which is a bummer but it is what it is.
we'll see how well my used 4080 for $700 I found will age pricing wise. I expect all 8GB cards to age like milk, hopefully the price reflects that sooner than later.
Nvidia will bring RTX 50XX in low volume after the premiere. So it's announcing, premiere, 1-day availability (limited) and then the regular delivery to the market.
Do you plan on using ray tracing if not or secondary to performance check out benchmarks between 7900xt $700 and 7900xtx $930 (this card is basically the same rasterization performance as the 4080) it's silly 7900xt often wins vs 4070ti super non ray-tracing proformance and is just short in ray tracing.....but then if you muck it up with path tracing the 4070ti wins, again use case what your willing to deal with but amd can do some ray tracing but path tracing is basically not possible for the 7900xt without about 50% loss in fps vs ray tracing 4070ti super-$790 7900xt-$700 4080 super-$1000 7900xtx-$930 So if you wanna look it up the card for 4080 super is the PNY RTX 4080 Super 16gb Verto
good tiering, listing and ranking. i would suggest people , especially those on budget to check daniel's listings on these product. because unlike most of others youtubers, he provide you with COMMON SENSE.
Would you consider making a video about newer version of frame generation in Lossless Scaling? Maybe even compare it with things like FSR3 Mod and Nvidia DLSS 3 Frame Generation?
1440p UW user here. I went ahead and bought a 4080 Super FE last month, upgrading from EVGA 3080 Ti ftw3. Sold my 3080 Ti for $575, so adding that to my upgrade cost, I paid $425 to upgrade. For me, the 50ish% upgrade has been well worth the cost, especially since I stream and game on the same PC. Uses less power and runs dramatically less hot.
1440 UW DLSS Quality Ray Reconstruction ON Frame Gen OFF Path Tracing ON Crowd HIGH FOV 100 All settings HIGH except Max Dynamic Decals ULTRA Mirror Quality MEDIUM (This is set up based on an optimization guide. Some things just don't have much of a visual diff between high/ultra but will have 5-10% perf hit) Riding around downtown on a bike at 45-50 FPS. Walking around downtown 40-50 (Crowd density is heavy on perf, some FPS can be saved there) Riding around outskirts of downtown on bike 55-65 Riding around in the desert 60-75 All things considered I can totally play the game like this. I'm usually a frames over everything player but the Path Tracing is cutting edge so it gets a pass. Also for what it's worth, Frame Gen is an option. Seeing 78-100 downtown with it on, with added latency. Cherry Blossom Street 79-82.
@@jayrpg__2226 Thank you so much! This means if I further optimize the settings with some insignificant ones going down to medium it can easily stay at stable 60FPS or higher depending on area. I'll still pass on framegen for now, have to test how it feels first. What's the CPU you've got paired with your 4080? If the crowds are bringing down performance so much that might be a processor issue, while GPU bottlenecked it shouldn't affect your frames whatsoever basically.
Same got the MSI Ventus 3X OC model a month ago for $710 including tax and have been really happy with it. Playing Lies of P at 4K 144hz with DLSS up scaling is great.
He described my exact situation, working as a student over the summer with a gtx1080... I want to game a lot this summer and be ready for the games coming out this fall and next year so I finally upgraded. Bought an rtx 4070 ti super, quite the leap forward
14:40 Also the 7900 GRE looks to be the most fun if you like to do a little OC'ing. The memory clock should easely OC to the 7900 Memory clock, and the core will probably also give you 10-20%. And that is much better than any other card, as far as I can tell.
I was planning to write in this comment my own recommendation, but surprisingly it would be nothing but exactly what you already have mentioned. Great Vid 👍
As someone who uses hardware for a very long time before upgrading, I only upgrade when the new card is at least 2 times (200%) faster. Generation by generation, the uplift is usually 40-50%, so once every 4 generations is ideal, unless we want a very specific feature that needs a quicker upgrade. So the upgrades in my 2 pcs - main PC: GTX 970 -> RTX 3070 (though would have liked a 10 GB buffer at least), and living room gaming PC: GTX 1070 Ti -> RX 6700 XT (though the uplift this time is less than 2x, I wanted AMD for SteamOS/ ChimeraOS desktop that does not support NVIDIA.
Just make sure you buying from a reputable seller (not 3rd party) if you want to avoid risking getting a brick. Also a sus manufacturer might try to to scam you as well 😉
I just wish we had such GPU prices here in Estonia. 4070 Super starts from 790 EUR, 4070 Ti Super - 980 EUR (some trustworthy models start from 1050+ EUR) Got my 4070 Super (Asus Strix) last week for 860 EUR (~955 USD). I'm totally happy with my new GPU, but prices still drive me mad!
It's mid July 2024 when I write this. I can't afford to buy a new graphics card every year. The 5070 will probably be out in like April 2025 I'm getting a 4070 Super right now. It's on sale and I get $100 off.
Outside of the U.S. you can forget about the kind of pricing mentioned here, double that and maybe you'll have a ballpark of what the prices are in Canada.
I'm literally across the big pond and the prices are nowhere near as bad. 870-900 bucks for a 4070ti super and 1065-1135 for a 4080/super. Just gotta know where to look!
I have a Steam Deck, it plays all the games I want, and an Evga 3080ti (from when EVGA made gpus) -- Cope and Seethe? My wallet knows no such words, bab. Pay dumb prices to play dumb "AAAA", enjoy!
If you want Ray tracing, go nvidia, but dont buy a 3060 to have ray tracing performance, a lot of people do this (the 6700XT smokes it on ray tracing, even though it loses more % performance activating it)
I just bought a 4070 Super after 5 years of a 2060. Ahh, temporary happiness. This is actually the first time I've spent more than 350 on a GPU. Came out to $575 (but did come with a game I wanted) which sucks, but whatever.
Right now, the best value card is the 7900 GRE. For the price and what you get it can't be beat. Anything below that is definitely not a true gaming card.
I gamed all the way up to Elden Ring and finished it at 1440p on a r9 390x paired with a 3770k. Then I got a 1660 super paired with the same CPU and was still able to game at 1440p very respectively. Last year I got a 6800, great at 1440p and just moved from my 3770k after about a decade of loyal service to a 5700x. Dont be afraid of an unsung hero deal.
Already got a red devil 6950xt. Other than pumping out heat like a reactor at load. It works very well. I think people need to get 16GB cards as a default. Sadly the whole build at idle and to 60hz display is about 130-200w. At 144hz takes the idle power up to 150w+. At full load it's about 720w+ or so. Minus the transient spikes from the videocard. I do not recommend any card over $650 minus tax. Then again depends what people want and need.I do recommend a monitor with 120hz/144hz support. Can not stand running games at 60 hz anymore. V-sync is so annoying.
Yo your room must be a sauna after playing 2 hours at full load I have a 4070 and that little beast barely pulls 130-140watts after undervolting, and using dlss makes it consume even less at around 100-110watts
Just got me 4070 super aorus master. Don't regret it one bit, nor will I. i can ultra anything at 4k, and use DLSS in a few. 1440p 120fps gaming no problem. the whole 12gb thing? I've yet to see even one situation where it's a problem. And if it was? I'd turn down 1 thing no biggie. So far tho never an issue. Quite the opposite actually.
Switched from a 7900 XTX to a 4080 Super because the non gaming experience was getting worse over time with my XTX. Sold the XTX and used that to pay the difference for the Super. Definitely having a much better experience now. DLSS vs FSR isn’t a huge difference in my opinion though I do see slightly more stability in certain occasions with DLSS.
I went from 1070 to 7600 and i am happy with my purchase. The only thing I dont like is adrenaline clocks the gpu higher than its boost clock and if you don't change it crashes, but that was an easy fix. A budget friendly card with 16gb of vram and a newer release date. I think spend the extra 30-50 bucks or so and get it. Don't go for the older cards.
Picked up a 3 month old 7900 XTX for 600 that is working very well. Also purchased a 4070 Ti Super for around 750$ and am wondering if I should keep the 4070 Ti Super or just rock the XTX.
Just found the channel, really appreciate your insight and coverage---great help to us!!! It is very helpful how you do comparisons and also discuss technical differences while keeping an eye on value and reality...
Just snagged a 6750xt for 350 euros. The difference between this and the 6800, 7700, 4060 etc. Is 50-100 in ireland. Considering the local price-performance this is a good deal for me
I bought a 3080 at the height of the crypto shortage in November 2020. I game in 4K and honestly I don’t see a necessity to upgrade until maybe the 6000 series. New games suck and the 3080 is still amazing even in 4K. Buy a used 3080 and save your money.
I was blaming AMD and their drivers for a rocky start to my newly rediscovered relationship via the 7900GRE.... having whittled my Event Viewer down to zero Errors and Warnings, and resolved BSOD issues, stemming from OS-related problems, and not GPU like I initially thought... the AMD Adrenalin software is running beautifully; capturing gameplay clips, all super responsive, and the raster performance for £550 in 2024 is pretty incredible.
@@moravianlion3108 Still have my XFX 7900XTX Merc 310, it's great for non-RT, can see the value cost savings. I don't believe in going over MSRP, it's always about the deals. Some games still are optimized for one or the other.
I just got a used 4080 for 750$. I'm happy :D I had a 2080ti (which I can recommend, it's like a 3070 with more ram) and I was getting ok performance, but the price of the 4080 was just too good, and that card is a very nice performance upgrade. The 2080ti was not really fast enough to power my VR rig without compromises.
In my country rtx 4070 ti super is priced at 1000$ should i get it? Rx 7900xt is also placed at same price, rx 7900 gre and rtx 4070 super is priced at 750$, rtx 4070 and rx 7800xt is placed at 650$ which card should i buy?
I'm very happy with my 7900 xtx, so I would recommend 7900 xt in your case. Everyone keeps comparing cards on nvidia optimized Cyberpunk, but other ray traced games are a different story.
At the low end, and pre-owned, I’d recommend either a 6600 XT or a 3060 12gb, which I’m surprised Daniel didn’t mention… I picked up both of these pre-owned for about £200 each on EBay in UK. Performance is similar but the 3060 has the edge in most games, and the 12gb and DLSS really helps. At 1440p CP2077 and Alan Wake 2 run more smoothly and look far better on the 3060. It’s a really solid card for single player games with nice visuals, especially at 1440p/1800p @ 60fps with mid/high settings in many games. I wanted a 6700/6750XT but these are not available new in UK and are going for £300+ on eBay preowned!
I already got a a 3090 waiting for me that a buddy is gonna sell to me when he upgrades for Blackwell the GPU market is still kinda fucked tbh, I'm praying AMD can put a end to this madness I miss the days of used 250$ mid-high end GPUs :(
@@ericsonbernabe7987 Well, size wise it was a literal brick. I have not had any issues yet. Nothing but praise here. Cool, quiet and FAST... VERY FAST.
I am planning to get a 4070 ti super and R9 7900x build by June or July, what do I do? Wait for 5000 series or go with the current gen? I did consider 7900 XTX but I'm a game dev and I'm also into 3d animation sooo... I need a Nvidia graphics card for a better ray and path tracing performance. please help me decide.
The the purchasing price, 7900 xtx is a high end no brainer. I use it for raytracing and computational tasks all the time. The only nvidia cards with 24Gb of VRAM are almost 2x more money.
Hi, I'd like to ask, I'm planning to buy 7700 XT or 7800 XT. but seems there will be launching new cards. when should I buy? I'm not rushing to build one but would be nice if I get it soon
@@anitaremenarova6662 its my first time build. mid build I'm aiming for due to budget... might be around $1000-1200... also, another problem is GPU in Philippines is a bit higher price than US with around $50-100 at most cases...
Rx 6800 is better than 7700 xt go for that one and I am not sure about 7800 xt .. Would probably be looking at 7900 GRE as it's close to that card while having moderately better performance
7700 xt is actually a fantastic card. People were/aren’t happy with the price previously/currently depending on where you live. Mind you, there’s hardly any bad cards just bad prices.
Not at all. I have same CPU, 7900 xtx (85% performance of 4090), 192Gb RAM, 4TB NVMe, new mobo and all that below $2000. Don't buy pre-builds, if you can. You'll pay hundreds extra for "delivery". Ask a friend or find an assembly recommendations only and just buy parts separately. You'll save a small fortune.
I was originally planing to buy RX 6650 XT but when I finally had money for it, it ran out of stock, and as for models that I could still buy, they were 40-50$ more expensive than RX 7600 So in the end I bought RX 7600, but still haven't installed it, because I'm saving money for new PSU (be quiet! 650W)
I've been chugging along on a GTX 1660 Super for quite a while now. Just bought a RTX 4070 Super. A bit more pricey than I'd originally been looking at, but hopefully it will last me a good few years.
Tuned to 6750XT factory OC a $230 used 6700XT can beat a $450 4060Ti 16GB in raw raster in most games at 1080p/1440p high settings. A used 6700XT has been by far the best price to performance value for over a year in my opinion.
Basically, I only play GW2 now which has no RT possible. I used to play WoW and have played thru all the Elder Scrolls games. For my money, the 7900XTX is the optimum no RT choice. If on a tighter budget, I have also used the GRE. Both GPUs are PowerColor Hellhound versions. While the GRE performs well, the fans do ramp up and down more than I'd like. The overall noise is not loud, but the ramping up and down brings unwanted attention. $550 is not cheap, but the $950 XTX is not really $400 "better" performance wise....diminishing returns on "halo" products. My personal feeling is: enabling RT and then needing upscaling is a crock. My GPU of years was an EVGA 1080Ti FTW3, no upscaling, no RT, just wonderful performance. The GRE is a worthy no RT replacement and the XTX is ice cream and frosting on the cake (again no RT). If EVGA lowered their middle finger and made Nvidia GPUs again (snowball in XXXX chance) I would certainly be tempted to buy from them again.
should i get a 7700xt? i want to be able to play ark survival ascended on med/high graphics 1080p, my current gpu is a gtx 1070, and my budget is $620 AUD which is the exact price i found the 7700xt for, are there any BETTER cards within my budget? (new only)
considering that (as of writing this) the cheapest 6700 XT that I could is around 580$ on Amazon... where I'm from, (Sweden) is the 6750 XT really a better option? (where the cheapest one is 360$ ...currently.)
Thank you, thank you so much. I have been breaking my head as I really do need to upgrade my CPU/mobo/HD right now (a few years back actually) and I was wondering if I should go for a 4080 or the AMD equivalent. Since I have the 3080 I will heed your advise and wait for the end of the year or next year
Hi Daniel! Great video! I have 300 bucks to spend in my first ever gpu so i will be choosing between the 4060 (8gb) or the 6700 XT (12gb). I would personally go por the AMD gpu. However, everybody recomends Nvidia for streaming and video editing (wich is my goal besides gaming). I just dont know if its worth going for the nvidia gpu, knowing that it has less VRAM and the 6700 XT performs better at that price range. Any advice?
If you going to do 3D editing, go for nvidia…….if your main job will be editing, go for nvidia. Otherwise you can go for amd it really do the job…even surpassing nvidia in somes aspects. If you have a good cpu, at least 8 cores, you can use the cpu for streaming, otherwise you need to use the gpu and nvidia is the only choice here….if I was you I’d be waiting a bit more and get at least a 4070 super or 7800xt
is RX 6800XT worth buying for 380USD? (my country have 23% tax on it) card is new since the guy got an replace a month ago and doesnt used it since then.
ive had a 7900xtx since octover got it for 900 gbp at the time the 4080 was 1200 nowadays u can get the 7900xtx for about 860 here and the 4080 super at around 1100 for me the features dont really excite me as i never use them anyway i know im not the minority but for me its just not worth the extra money fir the features
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Ohhhh yeah
YOu should do a Video on Laptops with Dedicated Graphics.. How much performance Hit do you take compared to Desktop Version.. Also Comment on RTX 2050 popping up on Laptops. Tried one out and it seemed dog slow to me..
@@davidcole2337 unfortunately I don't have a bunch of laptops to do that kind of testing.
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I'm holding out for a 4070 Ti Super Duper announcement before I make a decision.
huh?
@@RandomKiddVR because they already released a4070 ti, but then we also got a 4070 super out of nowhere and then even a 4070 ti super, that's what he's referencing / joking about, maybe there will even a super duper ;)
@@Xeonzsi knew about the "ti super" but i had no idea there was a "ti", i thought they were the same 😅
They're removing the super off the list, so it will only be ti and ti super
In 3 generations the compute capabilities of their GPUs will be just enough to display the cards full name
I had a 1080ti and I couldn't take it anymore. Picked up a 4090. I know the 5080 might be here soon... but history tells me there will be shortages, scalpers, and other BS that would've prevented me from getting one anyway.
Yup people seem to forget that happens each generation. It will be hard to find the cards when they first come out. That is a huge upgrade which should be good enough for years.
What pushed you to upgrade?
@MA-xb2yz for me I wanted the best of the best so I dont have to worry about any game I play, to do what consoles can't and play games in their native resolutions and not upscaled, to play at the settings I want, to play with cheats and mods.
I’m in your exact same boat. 1080 sc Looking at the 4090 as well. Also want to get into native ML
@@jonathanmitchell5171 get the 4090.
Bought an open box 4080 Super from MC for $880 recently. That was a deal I couldn't say no to.
@peterpickguitar They let you take it out of the box and inspect it, and you can return it if it doesn't work.
Thats crazy I'm a student with a 1080ti home for the summer thinking about upgrading and you guessed my whole situation
Get RX 6800 it's hands down the single best GPU right now snd it runs really cool as well
I had a 1080 that I replaced with a used 7900xtx for about 900usd with tax back in January. I had upgraded each generation before that, 780 to 980 to 1080, because the performance was so much better and the price still relatively reasonable. Now I plan on keeping my 7900xtx possibly as long as my 1080. Even if the 5080/90 had twice the performance of the 7900xtx, I wouldn’t consider it because of price and power connector concerns.
The current generation is still not worth it.
and the RTX 50 will be even bigger scam, it depends on AMD how they price RDNA4
@@ProtectusCZ Indeed, there are rumors that the RTX 5080 will be like a 4090. The 80 and above segment is the only that will see some improvements.
I may just buy the top RDNA4 if it has 4080 Super performance for 4K with 1080p FSR for the last 2 PS5 generations, including the PS5 Pro.
The 5070 may cost $699 and if it comes with 12 GB VRAM and same performance as a 4070 Ti Super...nope.
@@takehirolol5962You obviously paid no attention to GPU news in the last months if you think that RDNA4 will feature a GPU that comes even close to a 4080 Super
RX 7800 XT 16Gb offers 73.9%. performance increase, over the NVidia GeForce RTX 2070 8Gb. Not worth it?
@@ProtectusCZ Not only that, but scalpers will fuck us all at the start anyway. Nvidia doesn't give a fuck about gamers anymore lol, they're only really interested in AI and their commercial market.
The new GPUs are just going to slot in between the existing product stack.
Prices aren't going to change, maybe a little bit but nothing much.
I hope I'm wrong and we get drastic price changes.
I think the 4080 super should be halved in price maybe even more (the cheapest 4080 super i can get here in stores is over 1300usd(with tax)), I'd probably get it if it's around 500 usd.
That expectation is simply bonkers. Even a 4070 Super is more expensive than that.
The reason to shop AMD at $500 or less. Ray tracing isn't ready for prime time even on Nvidia's high end. Until it's done right I am not too concerned with it. That is Nvidia's only advantage for gamers, the rest of Nvidia's special and expensive features us scurvy gamers have no clue how to use.
I just bought an MSI Gaming X Slim RTX 4070 Ti Super from MicroCenter this weekend for $783 (open box - $870 MRSP). Playing Halo Infinite using out-of-box settings (no frame generation with most settings on high), I'm getting a max 180 FPS in-game, and about 300 FPS in the menu screen, even though I capped the FPS to 144 FPS, along with V-Sync ON to match my monitor's refresh rate. It does not cap in Halo Infinite and drawing over 200 watts of power. In Halo MCC's Combat Evolved, with most of the settings on high without frame generation, I was able to cap it to 120 FPS drawing 28 watts, but before I did that, it was going all the way up to 900 FPS drawing 79 watts. The card also runs very cool and have not gone above 62 deg C in Halo Infinite, which pushes other graphics cards to 78 deg C. This MSI card is a real winner with NO NEED to get anything more expensive.
The funny thing is, running Unigine Heaven Benchmark on this card (on a Ryzen 9 5900X) vs the Arc A770 16GB card on another PC (with a Ryzen 7 5800X), both cards returned scores only 2 points apart. The RTX 4070 Ti Super came back with 361 max FPS, while the Arc A770 16GB came back with 363 max FPS. I still believe the Arc A770 16GB card is the best bang for the buck, but the drivers are still very immature, but are getting better. Still, I am very happy with the RTX 4070 Ti Super and is a real beast of a card with reasonable power usage. Buy open-box if you can find it at your local MicroCenter.
Still bussin?
just install my MSI 4070 2x today
Strange to pay more for "better RT performance" when it's still
“Most”? There are exactly two RT games that are too demanding for anything 4070 Super or up.
@@dangahagan7645 not only that but from my experience my 4070 super is good for 4k Id personally say 4k for regular games 1440p with RT but this thing is a beast TBH 120fps is my goal and either 4k or 1440p I can max most games out and not worry with DLSS Q cyberpunk max 1440p w path tracing for example gets me around 50-70 fps no FG only DLSS Q and ray reconstruction DLSS balanced gets me over that 60fps mark consistently of course my card is mildly OCed too
By modt games do you mean only Alan Wake 2? Atleast look up before you say bullshit 🤦♂️ anyways I'd rather have my gpu play all games at the best graphics if im gonna be paying anything more than $400-500 for it. Extra raster performance is useless at the higher end than having 2-3% more fps when you're already getting 100+ fps
@@elderman64 By modt games I mean most games.
Atleast look up before you say bullshit. XD
Looks like 42 other people share my opinion. It's embarrassing to be forced to use upscaling and fg on a 1000€ card to get above 60fps.
Wtf are you talking about a 4070 super already does 4k 60+ fps path tracin, let alone ray tracim. Hell the 3070 already does 1440p 60+ fps ray tracing. 😂
Here in Sweden, I find it kind of crazy that people by default choose nvidia cards, even at the low- to mid-range. It really must be due to nvidia marketing and mind share. I mean when I bought my RX6800 it was the same price as a 3060Ti, even in RT they the RX6800 performs better... At the high-end I can understand going for nvidia, but when you go for cards around 600EUR or below it just doesn't make much sense. (this comment is broadly generalized of course, and during certain sales you could potentially get a good nvidia-deal in the mid-range as well)
maybe amd will catch up one day with both marketing, performance and reliability
I have 6750 XT, best card under £300 imo.
6800 or 7700 XT best cards under £400. AMD offering way better value.
This is true, everyone here in Italy also defaults to Nvidia and Intel for CPUs, doesn't make much sense at the low-mid range, but i think from the 600EUR mark Radeon's value start to decrease, yes i can grab a 7900GRE for 550, but is it worth? for 50 more i could get a 4070S which is a tad bit slower in raster, but comes with a MASSIVE feature set compared to Radeon and a ton more of performance in RT. Obviously this is just hypothetical since every single user has a different need.
@@zantep3734 The RT performance of a 4070s is still terrible though, even though its much better than the amd equivalent. I really dont get the argument about ray tracing on budget nvidia cards, they are far too weak to be worth using RT. I wouldnt use RT on anything less than a 4080.
AMD cards run much hotter, consume more power and ultimately perform worse... as someone who owned three cards 6700, 6800 and 6900XT, the move to Nvidia was incredible
Just spent $580 for an XFX 7900 XT Merc, I think I got a pretty good deal and I'm reasonably happy with the purchase.
Did you get it used? That's a big price cut for an XT
@@mastracu66207 sealed in the box. I was actually looking for a 4070 Super, but for pretty much the same money I got the Radeon instead.
@@mastracu66207 not even they are 650 at Microcenter new near me
@@mastracu66207Definitely used
Still depends if you're having a problem with the drivers or not. It's basically rolling a dice when you buy a Radeon card.
This whole computer cost me 600.00 and with a 4060 16 GB of vengeance ram thermaltake 600 Gold rated power supply antec case asrock b560 motherboard i3 10100f and i been playing Alan Wake ll and the Fallout games Alan Wake ll 1440p high setting with DLSS Quality looks great feels great.
ordered an rx 6800 for 340 new a week ago on newegg
If I were to buy any AMD GPU right now it would be an RX6800 or 7900GRE and overclock its memory.
That's my plan. My RX 580 has been a real one for 5+ years.
Better to just undervolt the card
@@ObsidianSoul1 Why?
@@doge3287 better performance lower temps?
I just upgraded from my RX 6650 XT to a RX 7900 GRE, best choice I ever made this card is a beast. (In my country Nvidia is extremely expensive - So I'm AMD all the way)
You care about money and upgrade from a last gen card?
That's not advisable.
Edit: I guess in some cases it is, see discussion below.
@@elirantuil5003 I was playing on a 1440p monitor (I upgraded my monitor first), it's a very good upgrade the RX 6650 XT can't run games at 1440p at high settings since it's a 1080p card, but the RX 7900 GRE has no issues what so ever at running all games at max settings at 1440p.
Remember to overclock it
He made a great choice no need to insult him@@elirantuil5003
Nice glad u enjoy your upgrade
Summary of recomendations:
Best GPU under $200
RX 6600: amzn.to/3v5tNja
Best GPU near $200
RX 6650 XT: amzn.to/3xvShDd
Between $220 and $500
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If you have to buy new:
Best GPU around $300
RX 6750XT: amzn.to/4aeTrRz
Best GPU around $350
RX 6800 amzn.to/4cl8ifd
Best GPU under $500
RX 7800 XT amzn.to/3x0eiKl
RX 6800 XT if available for noticeably less $: amzn.to/3vqbhSS
Best GPU around $550
RX 7900 GRE: amzn.to/48XQnsb
Best $600 GPU:
RTX 4070 Super: amzn.to/3uAoo3w
Best $800 GPU
RTX 4070 Ti Super: amzn.to/3T0Kfuz
Past this point is diminishing returns on "value" and next gen could be out soon:
Best $1000 GPU:
RTX 4080 Super, but only if you can find it at MSRP: amzn.to/497mOoV
I want High FPS 4K Ray Tracing, I don't care about price:
RTX 4090: amzn.to/3h6VoK2
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Cyberpunk 2077 real wrold testing, the 7800 XT clocked 142 fps at 1080p using the high-quality preset, making it 9% faster than the RTX 4070.
This difference expands to 16% at 1440p and then 22% at 4K. RX 7800 XT offers competitive performance, and it undercuts the RTX 4070 in terms of price. However, The RTX 4070 has a broader feature set, including technologies like RTX (ray tracing) and DLSS 3.0, Nvidia’s drivers generally offer better game compatibility (apparently), experienced gamers know high average FPS alone isn’t enough; stability, noise levels, and features matter but we're talking about 3 fans on the AMD product and 1 on the FE edition NVidia card.
Good take as usual, but I wanted to send out a note about something I wasn't aware of until recently: apparently Bethesda games work extremely well with AMD's Fluid Motion Frames so people are getting 300-500FPS (at 1440p at least) using a 7900XTX with heavily-modded Fallout 4 or Skyrim SE with Reshade and/or ENB. Not sure of the CPUs being used.
did 4070 super really better than 7900 GRE
I'm building a new PC, upgrading from a 1080 Ti. I chose the 4080 super as a placeholder until the 5090 comes out. I usually go top of the line, but the 4090 doesn't make sense at this point.
Got a 7900xtx for $800, couldn’t be happier
Howww???
@@IndianPandaPlays it was on sale on Newegg and also had another promo code if you used a pay in 4 plan
@@IndianPandaPlays once saw a 7900xtx on amazon warehouse for 750 dollars. For me, still not worth it, as I need non gaming task GPU.
I bought 4080 Super just a month ago in spite knowing that 5000 series were on the way. I'd rather game this summer and have a good time than wait 6 months or even more for a better GPU. Even then, next gen isn't going to have that much better performance usually they are better by 35% which isn't a lot.
same i just got mine last month also, can always sell and upgrade if it makes sense with the 5000 series
@@_whitewizard Considering just how well high end 3000s cards kept their value it's not a bad idea to sell them for an upgrade as well.
But as to why 3000s kept their value so high it could be attributed to their insane cost during the shortage. But still it ain't the worst.
Exactly this, plus i can get one at almost msrp ($5 difference) right now. I live in canada and the msrp is 1364 and the one im looking to buy is currently 1369
this is why i bought a 4060ti fe - then when 5090 drops or 5080, sell the 4060ti and go for it!
yeah and don't forget about scalpers I don't think 5x will be available to but after release scalpers will get them all
depending on range, i believe in mid tier i say get 7800xt/7900gre /4070 super if u cannot afford 4070ti super ,rest of the cards are not worth,and if u got enough funds get 4090
Curious to see where AMD's 7000 series will end up. The 6000 series had some shining stars after initial price drops. Everything from the RX 6600 to RX 6800 was best in class for the last two years or so. Will the RX 7700xt drop to $325? The RX 7800xt drop to $450? If so, watch out.
i just bought a 408016 bg because the 4070 wasnt cutting it. the vram starvation is really a pain when working with AI.
Considered waiting, but the way the market goes to insanity when new cards come out, i picked peace instead of waiting for the churn.
Lowest price of an RTX4080 (non Super) in my country : 1250 euros. 12v adapter or new power supply (that natively supports 12v cable) costs not included.
Lowest price of an RTX4080 Super in my country ? : a cool 1450 euros. Again 12v adapter or new power supply (that natively supports 12v cable) costs not included.
The average price of an RX7900XTX in my country : 1040 euros. No adapters or power supply change needed.
I want a GPU that i plug in, turn on my system and get immediate results in 1440p all maxed out settings with high frame rates. No need to cripple my FPS with RT since i don't use nor care for it yet.
When the time comes, where all GPUs do a very good job at RT with high, smooth and consistent FPS without the need to upscale, then i will be turning that feature on. For now, i won't use Upscaling to have HALF of my normal FPS in order to use a gimmick. Sorry.
Knowing how GPU launches go, the shortages and the scalping? I went for the 7900xtx brand new. I've waited for this chance for a while, right when the market is kinda saturated with GPUs, new generations will be launching in a while, but still the prices aren't dropping because the MSRPs are so high. Which is a bummer but it is what it is.
4080 sells with an adapter, you don't need a new PSU
we'll see how well my used 4080 for $700 I found will age pricing wise.
I expect all 8GB cards to age like milk, hopefully the price reflects that sooner than later.
6800 XT for 410 $ looks like pretty good deal to me, you getting almost 7800 XT performance for 100 less
Here in canada the 7900 xtx is 200$ cheaper than the 4080 super
where do you get that deal?
question: do you know where can i get the best deal for pc parts in canada?
you have the best tech content on yt rn keep up the great work!
Nvidia will bring RTX 50XX in low volume after the premiere. So it's announcing, premiere, 1-day availability (limited) and then the regular delivery to the market.
you mean regular delivery to scalpers.....
When the lowest priced 4080s gpus here are 1300+ dollars 😭
In my country you can find some 4080 at 800$ and founders are still on stock, you're not lucky.
Ain't no matter, brand loyalist still gonna buy em regardless at what cost 😂
@@gugugaga-lu8gr what made you think, they thought they were lucky?
@@gugugaga-lu8gr 💀💀💀awwwman
Do you plan on using ray tracing if not or secondary to performance check out benchmarks between 7900xt $700 and 7900xtx $930 (this card is basically the same rasterization performance as the 4080)
it's silly 7900xt often wins vs 4070ti super non ray-tracing proformance and is just short in ray tracing.....but then if you muck it up with path tracing the 4070ti wins, again use case what your willing to deal with but amd can do some ray tracing but path tracing is basically not possible for the 7900xt without about 50% loss in fps vs ray tracing
4070ti super-$790 7900xt-$700 4080 super-$1000 7900xtx-$930 So if you wanna look it up the card for 4080 super is the PNY RTX 4080 Super 16gb Verto
good tiering, listing and ranking. i would suggest people , especially those on budget to check daniel's listings on these product. because unlike most of others youtubers, he provide you with COMMON SENSE.
Would you consider making a video about newer version of frame generation in Lossless Scaling? Maybe even compare it with things like FSR3 Mod and Nvidia DLSS 3 Frame Generation?
1440p UW user here. I went ahead and bought a 4080 Super FE last month, upgrading from EVGA 3080 Ti ftw3. Sold my 3080 Ti for $575, so adding that to my upgrade cost, I paid $425 to upgrade.
For me, the 50ish% upgrade has been well worth the cost, especially since I stream and game on the same PC. Uses less power and runs dramatically less hot.
Do you own cyberpunk perchance? That game takes a big hit from UW resolution so I'd like to know if you still can run PT with just DLSS quality or no
@@anitaremenarova6662 Absolutely! Give me a sec, I'll get you some numbers.
1440 UW
DLSS Quality
Ray Reconstruction ON
Frame Gen OFF
Path Tracing ON
Crowd HIGH
FOV 100
All settings HIGH except
Max Dynamic Decals ULTRA
Mirror Quality MEDIUM
(This is set up based on an optimization guide. Some things just don't have much of a visual diff between high/ultra but will have 5-10% perf hit)
Riding around downtown on a bike at 45-50 FPS.
Walking around downtown 40-50 (Crowd density is heavy on perf, some FPS can be saved there)
Riding around outskirts of downtown on bike 55-65
Riding around in the desert 60-75
All things considered I can totally play the game like this. I'm usually a frames over everything player but the Path Tracing is cutting edge so it gets a pass.
Also for what it's worth, Frame Gen is an option. Seeing 78-100 downtown with it on, with added latency. Cherry Blossom Street 79-82.
@@jayrpg__2226 Thank you so much! This means if I further optimize the settings with some insignificant ones going down to medium it can easily stay at stable 60FPS or higher depending on area. I'll still pass on framegen for now, have to test how it feels first. What's the CPU you've got paired with your 4080? If the crowds are bringing down performance so much that might be a processor issue, while GPU bottlenecked it shouldn't affect your frames whatsoever basically.
I got a MSI 4070 Ti Super weeks ago and am extremely happy with it.
Same got the MSI Ventus 3X OC model a month ago for $710 including tax and have been really happy with it. Playing Lies of P at 4K 144hz with DLSS up scaling is great.
@@TheLuis12198 I got the Ventus 2X (only one I could get where I live at a fine price) and an extra cooler and it's all good.
He described my exact situation, working as a student over the summer with a gtx1080... I want to game a lot this summer and be ready for the games coming out this fall and next year so I finally upgraded. Bought an rtx 4070 ti super, quite the leap forward
14:40
Also the 7900 GRE looks to be the most fun if you like to do a little OC'ing. The memory clock should easely OC to the 7900 Memory clock, and the core will probably also give you 10-20%.
And that is much better than any other card, as far as I can tell.
I was planning to write in this comment my own recommendation, but surprisingly it would be nothing but exactly what you already have mentioned.
Great Vid 👍
As someone who uses hardware for a very long time before upgrading, I only upgrade when the new card is at least 2 times (200%) faster. Generation by generation, the uplift is usually 40-50%, so once every 4 generations is ideal, unless we want a very specific feature that needs a quicker upgrade.
So the upgrades in my 2 pcs - main PC: GTX 970 -> RTX 3070 (though would have liked a 10 GB buffer at least), and living room gaming PC: GTX 1070 Ti -> RX 6700 XT (though the uplift this time is less than 2x, I wanted AMD for SteamOS/ ChimeraOS desktop that does not support NVIDIA.
Same except I'm even more stubborn, just now swapped my GTX 960 4GB for a 4070ti super. Next time upgrading once the RTX 8000 series is out!
Just make sure you buying from a reputable seller (not 3rd party) if you want to avoid risking getting a brick.
Also a sus manufacturer might try to to scam you as well 😉
You should play on a beach during the summer.
I just wish we had such GPU prices here in Estonia. 4070 Super starts from 790 EUR, 4070 Ti Super - 980 EUR (some trustworthy models start from 1050+ EUR)
Got my 4070 Super (Asus Strix) last week for 860 EUR (~955 USD). I'm totally happy with my new GPU, but prices still drive me mad!
It's mid July 2024 when I write this.
I can't afford to buy a new graphics card every year. The 5070 will probably be out in like April 2025
I'm getting a 4070 Super right now. It's on sale and I get $100 off.
Outside of the U.S. you can forget about the kind of pricing mentioned here, double that and maybe you'll have a ballpark of what the prices are in Canada.
I'm literally across the big pond and the prices are nowhere near as bad. 870-900 bucks for a 4070ti super and 1065-1135 for a 4080/super. Just gotta know where to look!
@@anitaremenarova6662 "and the prices are nowhere as bad" 🤣 Yeah it's 'normal' when it's all you've ever known. Sad.
@@SirThanksalott You said twice the US cost when it's not even 10%. Cope and seethe bub.
I have a Steam Deck, it plays all the games I want, and an Evga 3080ti (from when EVGA made gpus) -- Cope and Seethe? My wallet knows no such words, bab. Pay dumb prices to play dumb "AAAA", enjoy!
@@SirThanksalott I paid less for my card than you did for your scalped 3080ti lmao
waiting for rtx 50/50
RTX 5050?
Ain’t no way you’re waiting for that
@@puffyips fr
Im waiting for rtx 80/80
The 6600 is disappearing from stores slowly sadly :(
a true professional, thank you thumbs up and subscribed
if 4070ti non super with 12gb of vram is 625$ and 4070ti super 16gb is 800$ which one would you pick?
Super
If you want Ray tracing, go nvidia, but dont buy a 3060 to have ray tracing performance, a lot of people do this (the 6700XT smokes it on ray tracing, even though it loses more % performance activating it)
I just bought a 4070 Super after 5 years of a 2060. Ahh, temporary happiness.
This is actually the first time I've spent more than 350 on a GPU. Came out to $575 (but did come with a game I wanted) which sucks, but whatever.
what cpu you have?
Right now, the best value card is the 7900 GRE. For the price and what you get it can't be beat. Anything below that is definitely not a true gaming card.
Given that RT still destroys performance overall, I'm gonna stick with my 7900xt
I gamed all the way up to Elden Ring and finished it at 1440p on a r9 390x paired with a 3770k.
Then I got a 1660 super paired with the same CPU and was still able to game at 1440p very respectively.
Last year I got a 6800, great at 1440p and just moved from my 3770k after about a decade of loyal service to a 5700x.
Dont be afraid of an unsung hero deal.
Already got a red devil 6950xt. Other than pumping out heat like a reactor at load. It works very well. I think people need to get 16GB cards as a default. Sadly the whole build at idle and to 60hz display is about 130-200w. At 144hz takes the idle power up to 150w+. At full load it's about 720w+ or so. Minus the transient spikes from the videocard. I do not recommend any card over $650 minus tax. Then again depends what people want and need.I do recommend a monitor with 120hz/144hz support. Can not stand running games at 60 hz anymore. V-sync is so annoying.
Yo your room must be a sauna after playing 2 hours at full load
I have a 4070 and that little beast barely pulls 130-140watts after undervolting, and using dlss makes it consume even less at around 100-110watts
yeah my xfx 6950 xt after a couple of hours makes my room into a sauna and thats me sitting next to my window and the card is undervolted
Just got me 4070 super aorus master.
Don't regret it one bit, nor will I.
i can ultra anything at 4k, and use DLSS in a few.
1440p 120fps gaming no problem.
the whole 12gb thing? I've yet to see even one situation where it's a problem. And if it was? I'd turn down 1 thing no biggie. So far tho never an issue.
Quite the opposite actually.
Just got an used RX 6700XT for $260, i think that was a good deal.
Switched from a 7900 XTX to a 4080 Super because the non gaming experience was getting worse over time with my XTX. Sold the XTX and used that to pay the difference for the Super. Definitely having a much better experience now. DLSS vs FSR isn’t a huge difference in my opinion though I do see slightly more stability in certain occasions with DLSS.
What do you mean non-gaming experience?
My xtx is great for non gaming tasks. Also, you paid $1300 and still play with DLSS?
@@moravianlion3108 That’s good your experience has been worming out. And I generally use DLAA and Frame Gen when available.
@@moravianlion3108 Sure
I went from 1070 to 7600 and i am happy with my purchase. The only thing I dont like is adrenaline clocks the gpu higher than its boost clock and if you don't change it crashes, but that was an easy fix. A budget friendly card with 16gb of vram and a newer release date. I think spend the extra 30-50 bucks or so and get it. Don't go for the older cards.
I recently got 2 open box 4070 supers for $475ish from Best Buy. That have a little coil whine, but barely noticeable
Picked up a 3 month old 7900 XTX for 600 that is working very well. Also purchased a 4070 Ti Super for around 750$ and am wondering if I should keep the 4070 Ti Super or just rock the XTX.
Keep xtx, sell 4070 ti. You will get more money for nvidia even when it's slower. XTX is significantly better in every aspect.
Just found the channel, really appreciate your insight and coverage---great help to us!!! It is very helpful how you do comparisons and also discuss technical differences while keeping an eye on value and reality...
Just snagged a 6750xt for 350 euros. The difference between this and the 6800, 7700, 4060 etc. Is 50-100 in ireland. Considering the local price-performance this is a good deal for me
Just bought a Asrock Challenger 6700XT 12GB 6 months warranty at $215/₹18,000😋
I bought a 3080 at the height of the crypto shortage in November 2020. I game in 4K and honestly I don’t see a necessity to upgrade until maybe the 6000 series. New games suck and the 3080 is still amazing even in 4K. Buy a used 3080 and save your money.
I was blaming AMD and their drivers for a rocky start to my newly rediscovered relationship via the 7900GRE.... having whittled my Event Viewer down to zero Errors and Warnings, and resolved BSOD issues, stemming from OS-related problems, and not GPU like I initially thought... the AMD Adrenalin software is running beautifully; capturing gameplay clips, all super responsive, and the raster performance for £550 in 2024 is pretty incredible.
Bought a 3060 12Gb yesterday, and its been working pretty well, Gonna be buying a whole new pc start of next year just wanted an upg over my 2060 6b
4090 impressed me this gen. Earlier 7900XTX in rasterization. 7800XT decent for midrange budget. Can see AMD value on the midrange.
I'm enjoying my "budget high end" 7900 xtx, as it's considerably close to 4090 in many aspects, but costs half of it.
@@moravianlion3108 Still have my XFX 7900XTX Merc 310, it's great for non-RT, can see the value cost savings. I don't believe in going over MSRP, it's always about the deals. Some games still are optimized for one or the other.
I upgraded my rx 580 4gb with rx 5700 for 115e and i am yet to sell my rx 580, omg went from low settings to ultra
I just got a used 4080 for 750$. I'm happy :D I had a 2080ti (which I can recommend, it's like a 3070 with more ram) and I was getting ok performance, but the price of the 4080 was just too good, and that card is a very nice performance upgrade. The 2080ti was not really fast enough to power my VR rig without compromises.
That is a huge upgrade.
In my country rtx 4070 ti super is priced at 1000$ should i get it? Rx 7900xt is also placed at same price, rx 7900 gre and rtx 4070 super is priced at 750$, rtx 4070 and rx 7800xt is placed at 650$ which card should i buy?
I'm very happy with my 7900 xtx, so I would recommend 7900 xt in your case.
Everyone keeps comparing cards on nvidia optimized Cyberpunk, but other ray traced games are a different story.
6700xt and ran horizon zero dawn at 1440p ultra at about 80fps. Tbf it is an older game now, but it still looks great even by 2024 standards.
Excellent as always Daniel..watched loads of your vids and learn loads and get loads of good useful info..many thanks from the UK
250 dollars used 1.5 years old powercolor red devil 6700xt POG
At the low end, and pre-owned, I’d recommend either a 6600 XT or a 3060 12gb, which I’m surprised Daniel didn’t mention… I picked up both of these pre-owned for about £200 each on EBay in UK. Performance is similar but the 3060 has the edge in most games, and the 12gb and DLSS really helps.
At 1440p CP2077 and Alan Wake 2 run more smoothly and look far better on the 3060. It’s a really solid card for single player games with nice visuals, especially at 1440p/1800p @ 60fps with mid/high settings in many games.
I wanted a 6700/6750XT but these are not available new in UK and are going for £300+ on eBay preowned!
I already got a a 3090 waiting for me that a buddy is gonna sell to me when he upgrades for Blackwell the GPU market is still kinda fucked tbh, I'm praying AMD can put a end to this madness I miss the days of used 250$ mid-high end GPUs :(
I just bought an XFX MERC 7900 XTX, really excited!
Waiting also mine, did you get your s now?? How was it?
@@ericsonbernabe7987 Well, size wise it was a literal brick. I have not had any issues yet. Nothing but praise here. Cool, quiet and FAST... VERY FAST.
I am planning to get a 4070 ti super and R9 7900x build by June or July, what do I do? Wait for 5000 series or go with the current gen? I did consider 7900 XTX but I'm a game dev and I'm also into 3d animation sooo... I need a Nvidia graphics card for a better ray and path tracing performance. please help me decide.
Get the ti super, the XTX performs like a 4080S and that isn't enough of a jump to sacrifice all the other functionality of an nvidia card.
The the purchasing price, 7900 xtx is a high end no brainer. I use it for raytracing and computational tasks all the time. The only nvidia cards with 24Gb of VRAM are almost 2x more money.
I have an RTX 3060 and it is ok an all but I wanna start playing more triple A titles with my 2k 170hz monitor. Should I wait ?
The 4070 super should get you pretty close, with frame gen, dlss and reduced settings.
Hi, I'd like to ask, I'm planning to buy 7700 XT or 7800 XT. but seems there will be launching new cards. when should I buy? I'm not rushing to build one but would be nice if I get it soon
Depends on what card you have right now, if you don't want to wait then get the 7900GRE and you won't be disappointed even after next-gen drops.
@@anitaremenarova6662 its my first time build. mid build I'm aiming for due to budget... might be around $1000-1200... also, another problem is GPU in Philippines is a bit higher price than US with around $50-100 at most cases...
Rx 6800 is better than 7700 xt go for that one and I am not sure about 7800 xt .. Would probably be looking at 7900 GRE as it's close to that card while having moderately better performance
In India, 6800 are gone almost, is 7700xt good enough for 1080p 60/120fps high/better settings??
7700 xt will give excellent performance at 1080p.
7700 xt is actually a fantastic card. People were/aren’t happy with the price previously/currently depending on where you live.
Mind you, there’s hardly any bad cards just bad prices.
You can get the arc a770 16GB for $250 as part of a bundle at microcenter. Really a no brainer if you are building a PC right now.
I just purchased a pre-built on sale for 2300 with ryzen 9 7950x and rtx 4090 good deal?
Absolutely 💯
Not at all. I have same CPU, 7900 xtx (85% performance of 4090), 192Gb RAM, 4TB NVMe, new mobo and all that below $2000.
Don't buy pre-builds, if you can. You'll pay hundreds extra for "delivery". Ask a friend or find an assembly recommendations only and just buy parts separately. You'll save a small fortune.
I was originally planing to buy RX 6650 XT but when I finally had money for it, it ran out of stock, and as for models that I could still buy, they were 40-50$ more expensive than RX 7600
So in the end I bought RX 7600, but still haven't installed it, because I'm saving money for new PSU (be quiet! 650W)
I've been chugging along on a GTX 1660 Super for quite a while now. Just bought a RTX 4070 Super. A bit more pricey than I'd originally been looking at, but hopefully it will last me a good few years.
I think people worry about future proofing too much, imo a RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB WILL, at the VERY LEAST, last about 5 years, you're completely fine
Tuned to 6750XT factory OC a $230 used 6700XT can beat a $450 4060Ti 16GB in raw raster in most games at 1080p/1440p high settings. A used 6700XT has been by far the best price to performance value for over a year in my opinion.
I got a 4080 super in mid Feb I think I’ll be ok for the next couple of years
Yup and what are the rest of your specs?
@@MrAnimescrazy 12900k 32gb ddr5 6000 850w
@@NurrJaber nice.
Basically, I only play GW2 now which has no RT possible. I used to play WoW and have played thru all the Elder Scrolls games. For my money, the 7900XTX is the optimum no RT choice. If on a tighter budget, I have also used the GRE. Both GPUs are PowerColor Hellhound versions. While the GRE performs well, the fans do ramp up and down more than I'd like. The overall noise is not loud, but the ramping up and down brings unwanted attention. $550 is not cheap, but the $950 XTX is not really $400 "better" performance wise....diminishing returns on "halo" products. My personal feeling is: enabling RT and then needing upscaling is a crock. My GPU of years was an EVGA 1080Ti FTW3, no upscaling, no RT, just wonderful performance. The GRE is a worthy no RT replacement and the XTX is ice cream and frosting on the cake (again no RT). If EVGA lowered their middle finger and made Nvidia GPUs again (snowball in XXXX chance) I would certainly be tempted to buy from them again.
1080p gaming on max graphics setting with a 3080 10GB. I could probably wait for the 6000 series 😂
I got the 4080s for 1000 should I return then?
Yes
If they cant get a decent GPU for $500 or under with a good uplift in performance, they can keep them!
Literally just buy 7800 xtx for just under $500 new and you can play in 1440p on full settings. 4K with FSR, if around 60 fps is not enough for you.
i heard the xfx swft rx 6800 has some pretty bad coil whine, is that a concern?
Have the card for about a year and have no issues personally the card is a beast for 1080p gaming
If people were to wait what time should be waiting for black friday or sometime sooner?
should i get a 7700xt? i want to be able to play ark survival ascended on med/high graphics 1080p, my current gpu is a gtx 1070, and my budget is $620 AUD which is the exact price i found the 7700xt for, are there any BETTER cards within my budget? (new only)
RX 6800 is so much better
How about us folks running on integrated GPU(sold my 3080ti, running on 7800x3d iGPU)? Planning to get a 7900 xtx, Should I buy now?
Thanks, 4070 ti Super and 7800X3D combo will be my go to but not yet, I will see how the 50s Nvidia cards fare and I'll make my choice then.
considering that (as of writing this) the cheapest 6700 XT that I could is around 580$ on Amazon... where I'm from, (Sweden) is the 6750 XT really a better option? (where the cheapest one is 360$ ...currently.)
Thank you, thank you so much. I have been breaking my head as I really do need to upgrade my CPU/mobo/HD right now (a few years back actually) and I was wondering if I should go for a 4080 or the AMD equivalent. Since I have the 3080 I will heed your advise and wait for the end of the year or next year
Hi Daniel! Great video! I have 300 bucks to spend in my first ever gpu so i will be choosing between the 4060 (8gb) or the 6700 XT (12gb). I would personally go por the AMD gpu. However, everybody recomends Nvidia for streaming and video editing (wich is my goal besides gaming). I just dont know if its worth going for the nvidia gpu, knowing that it has less VRAM and the 6700 XT performs better at that price range. Any advice?
RX 6800 If needed, save that 50.
If you going to do 3D editing, go for nvidia…….if your main job will be editing, go for nvidia. Otherwise you can go for amd it really do the job…even surpassing nvidia in somes aspects. If you have a good cpu, at least 8 cores, you can use the cpu for streaming, otherwise you need to use the gpu and nvidia is the only choice here….if I was you I’d be waiting a bit more and get at least a 4070 super or 7800xt
The 4060 isnt a good card. You need 12 gb minimum 8 is no longer enough.
is RX 6800XT worth buying for 380USD? (my country have 23% tax on it)
card is new since the guy got an replace a month ago and doesnt used it since then.
ive had a 7900xtx since octover got it for 900 gbp at the time the 4080 was 1200 nowadays u can get the 7900xtx for about 860 here and the 4080 super at around 1100 for me the features dont really excite me as i never use them anyway i know im not the minority but for me its just not worth the extra money fir the features
I have no GPU yet, I am planning on building my first gaming PC this summer, any suggestions on what I should get?
Stating your budget and intended use would help. Since you can game on almost any PC.