This is not about politics, but in terms of trade, I believe Taiwan and China are treated separately. Many gaming consoles, such as the PS5, are indeed manufactured in China. However, for high-end CPUs and GPUs, they are likely all produced by TSMC in Taiwan.
I'd love the RDNA4 product stack to be varied and interesting like RDNA2. Rx 6000 series was so awesome to me. I'd love: -Rx 8500 = rx 6600 xt-rx 6650xt /rtx 3060 12gb - Rx 8600 = Rx 6700 10gb -Rx 8700= Rx 6750 xt - Rx 8700 xt = Rx 7700xt/rx 6800 -Rx 8800 = Rx 7800xt -Rx 8800 xt = Rx 7900gre. And the pricing should be around the CURRENT pricing, as off November 2024. Max GPU cost of £700 for highest RDNA4 sku. Imagine if AMD did that. With better production features , more flesher out AV1 codec, power efficiency of Rtx 40 series. Even if the ray-tracing is say, 80%-90% as good as 40 series ray-tracing. That'll be quite nice. And please, at least FSR 3.1 in dozens to dozens more games please (minimum 3.0).
The title should be: "The Best GPUs to Buy (Nov 2024), But I Don't Waste Your Time" Love this format, even though I'll watch the whole thing anyway. :)
@@eeljerhal yeah i kind of stopped before the first section haha, i will wait for new gpu's that are close before deciding. But if you pick blindly without researching yourself the first rapid fire section works.
Just got a 7900XT for around $600. Good value/performance IMO. Been watching lots of stuff around ray tracing and the verdict in my case is I'm not going to miss it.
its great card for 1080p gaming and 720p good streaming, if you don't earn money and want to start as casual pc gamer thats a good card to enter gaming
@@GewelReal dumbest comment I've read in a good while. The 580 was an extremely solid card for its price and can still put out decent 1080p performance in most titles.
Just buy a piece of s Nvidia and feel better. You could just buy a Radeon for half the price and twice the performance and ignore Turkey day deals., Of marketing will win and sub IQ Muricans will say Nvidia, while not being able to use or afford them.
@@MuahMan well fun fact I bought the Rx 6800 XT for 330 euros and I'm really happy with the upgrade, I had an RX 580 4gb and it was hell to play on, tho I did manage to get me close to 2025, had the card for 5 years, it was time to move on
@@thisdude7759 The 6800XT is significantly better, I wouldn't get a new 7700XT either way, the 7800XT is usually slightly more expensive and a better buy. I personally don't like buying used components but if you don't mind get the 6800XT, if you are like me get the 7800XT or if you have a bit more to spend the 7900GRE
You know about 6 months ago people were saying “just wait for the 5k series”. Meanwhile I had a 2070 Super that just wasn’t cutting it anymore for 2k gaming. So, I ignored them and went all in. 7950X3D processor paired with a 4090 and also upgraded to a 32” 4k 160hz monitor. I have no regrets.
You did the right thing for sure - I did similar and bought a used 3090 for £585 GBP - it was always obvious that the 50xx series nvidia would be crazy price, crazy power eg 5080 and 5090, and it will be scalped and stock issues big time... all roads lead to the right choice being to not wait if you want value.
As old saying goes, buy early enjoy asap . Price “may” drop by not much several months later, but I guess the entertainment during these months worth the money.
"I won´t waste your time " is the reason why I´ve put your playlist on autoplay on all our PC´s while I render my stuff. I hope it improves your significance within the algorithm. You deserve it.
Low budget 6650xt 6750xt Mid budget get a 7800xt /7900gre if you want raw performance remember to OC the 7900gre. If you want RT and better overall tech at the cost of 5%/10% raster get a 4070 super (Avoid the 4070 is trash) get a 7800xt instead. Hight budget wait until series 5000 and buy a used 4080 super/ 4090 from the whales.
@@TJones4L Pc part picker prices 4070 super at 560 and the 7900xt at 660. But yet again the 4070 ti super is 770. So the cycle continues. I would def had bought the 7900xt if it was only 100 more. When i bought my 4070 super was on sale for 500€ and the 7900xt was like 850/900 at that time.
Even my old 1080 is still good. These cards are examples that nvidia is just milking people with the “new” gpu releases. I bet they already have unreleased gpus that can blow away each generation. They’re just making sure they have a cash flow each year with launches
I picked up a used evga 3080 ti to hold onto for the next 5-6 years. I paid the equivalent of $500 usd for it. If this was a mistake then hey, at least I own a piece of history now that evga's gone.
Thanks for the video! I am upgrading from 1650 SUPER to RX 6750 XT. Hopefully this will last me for another few years as new GPUs have ridiculous prices
@@The_Hussar Nice. BTW you do know that you now have a 1440p Gaming PC? My RX 6700 XT was never hooked up to a 1080p monitor so I can only imagine the FPS you'll get.
@@ipotato95 the prime day pricing in October should be a realistic benchmark. There are videos about those deals you can reference to calibrate your expectations
@@zeusleague. Why?, i got both 4070S and 4070TiS, same model asus TUF, and still deciding which one im going to return, what i see is the TiS being avg 17% faster while costing 35% more... idk dude. I think he did the right chioce.
@@elwaposv The games we have at the moment don't need as much vram as they will in the future, considering you're playing on a 4k resolution or upgrade in the future, vram will become more important and the difference gap between Super and TI will increase with future games. That's my thought process.
@@zeusleague. no gpu is future proof, as of now, the best for my wallet is 4070 S, i usually keep the card until i cant turn options down in a game thats when i upgrade. I'm coming from a 1660S. There is no wrong here, the best gpu is the best one you can afford. I'm happy the guy is happy with his purchase :)
If you're planning on upgrading, do it around the month of October. I got incredibly lucky when I found a new RX 6750XT around November and haven't been able to find any since then that was readily available.
Here in india, 4070 ti super is 950$(80k inr) and 7900xt is 820-850$(70k inr) depending on model. I have built a igpu(r5 7600) setup as of now and saving for gpu. What you think should be good value here🥲 All cards prices at cheapest model possible 7800 xt - 600$(48k inr) 7900 gre - 620$(52k inr) 4070 ti - 760$(65k inr) 7900 xt - - 820$(70k inr) 4070 Ti Super - 950$(80k inr) 7900 xtx -1090$(93k inr) 4080 Super -1200$(100k inr)💀 4090 -2600$(220k inr) 💀🫘
I keep an eye on the RX 7600. Right now it's only $50 more. As for Tariff's, the price increase is the least of our problems. As members of the WTO, unilaterally raising tariff's without approval means a trade war and even a blockade Malacca strait and the first island chain. We are looking at a real war here. My recommendation is UPGRAdE now or you may have to wait 2 to 3 years.
rx7600 is trash cmon dude. thats literally playing in kiddie leagues. is it even better than the 4060 ti? go big or go home. avoid 60 anything, go atleast 700, whether it be a rx6800, or a 3070 super/3080 super, even a 4070 super. do not get a rx7600. get the intel battlemage gpus that just came out. literally $300 for a gpu that performs better than the 4060 ti 16gb
I went with the new release 9800X3D as was going for 7800X3D but then new chip releases and went with a sapphire pulse 7900XT was going go nitro but I went for a non rgb type build and I liked the aesthetics
8GB on 1080p IS an issue. It´s been proven multiple times now. If you only play older/esport games or are are fine paying a premium and lowering settings, go for it.
MicroCenter has the ASUS DUAL RX 7800 XT OC at $450 which is really good value if you want the potential of FSR4 in the future. I bought the $430 6800 XT in September so I might have missed on FSR4 but its a great deal if you have the extra money.
While the 4070 Ti Super might be the lowest cost card that can deliver an ok RT performance, you get the same rasterisation performance on a 7900 XT, which is 120 bucks lower in cost. The premium you pay for Nvidia features is quite a thing, this is also by far the largest gap we have anywhere between 2 similarly powerful cards in price. Might be worth a mention.
Except its missing nvidia reflex and dlss making it both worse for competitive multiplayer games and effectively slower in more demanding titles where you can basically turn on dlss quality for free at 1440p.
I'd bet that the 50 series cards will cost a LOT more than the 40 series cards did at launch due to the lack of competition from AMD/intel. Nvidia can name whatever price they want as there is simply no alternative if you want a GPU with that kind of performance .
No. Same GPU but 10% more expensive. Don't be fooled by the newer generation. If you look at the GPU Techpowerup chart that Daniel uses, you'll see that the 7800 XT is only 5% faster, but for 10% more money. The same goes for Ray tracing performance. With this logic you would never buy anything because the 7900 GRE is "only" $60 more expensive but 10% faster. But why stop there when the 7900 XT is "only" $100 more expensive than the GRE but 20% faster. But wait, what about the 7900 XTX? Do you know what I mean?
I got my Power colour Fighter RX6600 8GB in October last year for £180 and for 1080p it's AMD answer to what the RX580 8GB was. It's a brilliant card runs cool can do 60fps on most games at 100w it's a silent card well worth it Next year though I'm building a new rig and I'm after 1440p gaming and the 7700XT is what I'm aiming for next. I wish you could still get a 6700XT in the uk
I just pulled the trigger on a Saphire nitro+ 7900 XTX while having a 3090, but I'm in a weird situation because of two things. I've switched to Linux 100% during this year, where even though the NVIDIA card was doing mostly all right for me, there are still some headaches with some technologies that I don't have any issue with running on my full AMD laptop. So it's mostly a convenience kinda choice, I want to be able to use my hardware while spending the least amount of time possible with reading and finding out solutions to make things work. Might sound contradicting from a person using Linux, but that's a different topic why I jumped ship from Windows. Other thing is that I'm leaving my home country for possibly a longer time, at least 4 months but if it goes well maybe even years, I know the used market here and I'm confident that I can sell my 3090 for a decent amount of money to make the expense of buying a new GPU a bit less painful. 😄 AMD's marketing about they're not going to make a high end product also not helping my case, I know I want to try out AMD on Linux, but why would I wait for their next gen if I can already buy a good GPU with decent amount of VRAM now.
yeah I got the exact same card a month ago, its great so far, I recommend overclocking it with a 1090mv undervolt and +15% on the power limit as I can get like 10% more fps while the card still runs at 63c with an 80c hotspot
@@H4GRlD do note that not all 7900xtxs can run that low of a undervolt. My Sapphire Nitro+ version can only do 1110mV lowest at any core frequency below 3100mhz as a hard floor without crashing and 2664mhz vram (Samsung vram chips can only go this far but I heard Hynix can do higher vram OC) Also fast vram timings is broken on newer drivers for some reason (instant black screen)
Sold my 3090 this week and got the 7900 XT for the same price. Was really unhappy with the dumb 3090 design with half the VRAM having no cooling and the temperatures the card generated. 7900 XT runs 12*C less.
Thanks for your numerous analysis and recommendations. I chose to get a 4080 super for a few reasons: 1-my current cpu is a 12700k and matches it well without bottleneck (which I will have on the new graphic cards likely and I want to use my current cpu to the best of it’s ability before upgrading). 2-my power supply is 750 just enough for a power savvy 4080, otherwise upgrade is needed. 3-I would rather wait for the best version of the 50 series that will likely come out a year later as NVIDIA often does. 4-they will not be cheaper than the current cards anyway 5-the functions they will offer will likely not add anything to my gaming experience until the super/ti versions come out 6-avoid scalpers and potential early issues 7-a good card can always be upgraded
I also bought a 4080 super not long ago dont wory it will be fine for 2-3 years for sure.. but afther the 6000 series will come for sure :D so we can wait
@ indeed. I’ actually just got it, will set it up later to replace my 3080 10gb. But thinking abt what I want to play, only a handful of games might actually push it, which is why 60 series might actually make sense in time, we’ll see
Congrats, that was exactly the right card to buy for bang for buck now - I nearly did the same used 6months ago but grabbed a used 3090 for the vram instead - I should have bought the 4080 super - it's the ideal card.
@@marknewellmusic indeed 3090 is pretty solid; it’s a bit hard to clearly evaluate the benefits of more VRAM vs newer technology without enough testing
Not worth it. FSR is unusable. 8800xt will be cheaper and better in a few weeks. But then you still have to deal with FSR. I would not buy any amd card considering how upscaling is required these days
Thank you Sensei Owen, sending this youtube to my sis whose thinking of picking up a gaming PC. I hope she'll find actionables that jives with the key point you're emphasizing :3 Keep rock'n on and rock'n hard!! :)
I don't think the 4070 ti super is a good buy considering you can get a 7900 xt for cheaper and it will do 4k ultra with features like hyperRX and AFMF
If you buy the cheaper AMD GPU with more vram you will likely get more fps in native resolution than the more expensive NVIDIA GPU using dlss upscaling...
It is always advisable to make the most of your investment when upgrading your PC, as these upgrades are meant to last for several years (4-5 years) if done correctly. Recently 5-6 months ago, I upgraded my gaming laptop PC to an RTX 4070 Ti 12gb Vram and an i7 13th generation graphics card, along with a 360hz screen and 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD with a recent 32 gb RAM upgrade as of today! Before the upgrade, I was running with an RTX 2070 paired with an i7 10th gen cpu that i purchased in 2020; it lasted me 4 years able to run games at respectable High/ultra settings. I am pleased to report that I have not encountered any issues with any game, even when playing with maximum settings and RTX enabled. Never did even when I was on 16gb of RAM with the same specs. The key is to purchase the best PC that you can afford at the time, as this will determine how long it will be able to play the latest games at respectable maximum or high settings for the next 4-5 years.!
Why did you skip over the AMD RX 7900XT VS the 4070 Ti Super as the performance is much closer than the 7900XTX you mentioned and costs a LOT cheaper! Basically you skipped over the best peformance for the money card in that class!!!
The 7900xt is not worth buying. FSR is terrible. 8800xt is a month or so away which will be better and cheaper. But even then, FSR makes it not worth buying
@@Dempig You forget that the prices for the 7900xt has come down and in gives very good fps at native resolution. A lot of people don't care for ray tracing or fsr and for them it makes a lot of sense to go for the 7900xt and you get 20GB of Vram. The new cards will only hit the markets in Feb 2025 and the prices could be vary high if the are higher inport tarifs. Also FSR 4.0 should be better an backwards compatible unless it needs a dedicated AI processing unit.
I debated waiting for the 5000 series. would be nice and all, but I'm concerned about availability and wild markups over msrp for some time after it comes out (even without getting into tariffs and the resulting economic disruption). while I'm sure the 4000 series will fall in price some time after that, I'm unsure by how quickly or by how much. there will obviously be used ones going on the market, but there's also undoubtedly a lot of people waiting for that to happen who will be competing for them. my conclusion was that trying to time the market "perfectly" was a good way to waste a lot of time I can't get back to save a little money that I can make more of. I can afford what I can afford, I'll buy the best thing I can get within that range when I decide I'm tired of current hardware.
Dude, you rock! I've been looking for advice on what to buy to upgrade my pc for playing the games that I enjoy playing (and taking advantage of Black Friday deals) and this has to be one of the best channels on here for pc building stuff that I've found.
He doesn't seem to be aware that the Biden admin already had a 25% tariff on semiconductor imports from China, which the Biden admin increased to 50% in May of this year. I doubt the incoming admin will change anything with semiconductor tariffs, so the consumer won't experience any change in prices.
Man. I was finally willing to give up my 1080ti and is looking at the 4080 super. Now it sounded like I might need to wait until the 5080s are released in January to see how they stack up. Just hoping I don't miss a good Black Friday deal and I regret it in January.
You might as well just snag it now before Trump takes office, because believe me, whatever the 50 series is rumored to cost now is going to be even more when he’s in charge.
For me ( in Europe, where power is expensive) the actual power draw in gaming is also a factor. Not speaking about tdp but the amount of power the card actually draws while gaming. Plus less heat in my room during summertime also matters
Lol i was afraid of tarrifs, and didnt realize its just a usa thing.. too bad i will be barely able to get something like 7060 anyway to upgrade my 3080..
Just grabbed a 7900xt for 620, did i mess up? I had originally got a 6800xt for 430 but wanted more so returned it. But now I'm looking at that xtx.... will it go down soon?
Naw the 7900xt was a steal at near $600 the xtx is about 10-20% better at 4k depending on the game but even the best sale was just under $800. Highly unlikely that the new 8800xt is both much better then the 7900xt and less then $600 as well.
Deffo I just got the sapphire 7900XT for much the same and I only play at 1440p I’m not impressed by ray tracing plus requires a 4070ti minimum and I prefer play at native rather than using upscalers if possible 😅
@@scubasleeve3497 I changed mind again and went with the 7900XTX probably more than I need and I got noctua cpu cooler and case fans will buy another NVME at a later date
Got the 4070 TI Super for about $700 ($750 with tax), plus the Indiana Jones game you mentioned! I'm in that exact category you described (I want the NVidia features at 1440p "lowest" price).
I wait for 5080 or 5070. Best case scenario would be if I could keep my 600w PSU. Oh and availability and hopefully under 1000€.... On a 3060ti rn and UE5 is killing me
@@rejectxzhonestly 5070 ti will also be fine if ur psu is good. 5070ti maxes out at 300w so you have another 300w to spare. You only need to overspec for bad psus that can't handle short spikes.
@@Frozoken Are you sure? I want to go for 5070ti. I was thinking of getting a 1000w now on black friday week but if my PSU is enough thats awesome. I have a EVGA Gold I think its good and use a 5800x3d also.
Good man I was tempted but got the 7900xt as not fussed about 4K plus I wanted buy a better cpu cooler and an extra 2TB SSD I had money get the better one but I’m trying to keep to my budget otherwise I know I would spend too much on everything and go all out on motherboard and everything Good not everyone sticking with Nvidia as competition is good plus I don’t see the appeal of upscaling I rather play native at a few frames less 😅
@ native all the way. I went for the 7900xtx because I wanted to treat myself , I haven't done it in a while . I've been saving a bit every month and it landed on this Black Friday sales so I'm pretty hyped for the delivery
@@Raven3557 which brand you go for I’m getting my dad powercolour hellhound 7800xt I went for sapphire pulse 7900xt for my build aesthetics on my new computer
I bought my 6700xt at inflated prices 3 years ago, I will not do that again. In that time prices have cooled but with the promised tariffs coming in snagged up 7800xt Red Devil and with the trends we have been seeing with gen to gen increases I feel I made a safe decision.
The fact that the 3060 and 6750xt are still the go to gpus years after they came out says something about how badly both amd and Nvidia shit the bed with their 4000 and 7000 series generation.
I think that the 50 series is going to be underwhelming and over priced. They care less about the gaming gpu market and more about ai stuff rn. Also you had a good point with the tariffs. It's possible that could raise the price of the gpu market slightly and effect the 50 series cards coming here to Canada. With this uncertainty I decided to grab a 4070 ti super to cover me for the next 8-10 years. However I did have a little regret but maybe it will be the right call.
The lowest priced 4070 super is around $590, while the lowest priced 7900XT is priced at $640. That's a $50 (8.5%) difference in price and up to 28% in rasteized performance and fairly even in some ray-tracing tasks (aside from heavy RT).
the difference is 20% not 28% and they are not even close at rt, not that it matters really cuz 1 the 4070 super is not that great at heavy rt either and 2 i'd personally much rather 20% more fps than having rt. amd finally decided to drop the price of the 7900xt and xtx to where they should have been from the start but i fear it's way too late now and people will probably just wait for the newer series and see what's up.
Haven't been up to date with GPUs since I bought my 6700XT at the end of December 2022 for around 399. Interesting to see that the 6600 and the 6750XT makes the lists but no longer the 6700XT.
Thank you so much for your videos. Your knowledge helped me out so much and making my decision and the details are amazing. I had to subscribe. Please keep doing your thing.
How many years of support can we expect on arc cards as i want to build a future proof pc but im a bit scared that out of nowhere intel will end drivers support?
Nobody can answer that question with complete confidence. However, as mentioned in this video, I will say that AMD generally offers similar performance at the same price as Arc GPUs, while having fewer games with inexplicably bad performance. In other words, I don't generally recommend Arc GPUs over AMD alternatives.
Something you should mention is also the Nvidia codecs and cores set aside for things like Shadowplay, AV1 etc. For content creation Nvidia is way better.
Is there any consideration to the power draw? The power draw on a lot of these AMD cards nearly 100W or 70% more than their competitors. I'm a lighter gamer now and that would still run me ~$30 extra a year extra plus more heat and stress on PSU and rest of PC, and need to run room AC room more. So one should really factor in that $30-80 a year extra cost of owning an AMD GPU.
what about 7900GRE and 4070 Super both are around 550-650 ranges, these seems to be more than enough for safe 1440p, 4070Ti Super cost over 200 euros more.
Looking at replacing my 3070 for MH Wilds next year, initial thought was to wait for the 5070 but the 12gb vram for what will very likely be $800 to get on launch is nothing short of unacceptable, there's games from years ago that get over 12gb maxing all settings and to expect the consumer in 2025 (which they will) to pay over $500 for 12 is insane. Unless bench testing of the initial offerings shakes the landscape up a 4070 ti super or even a 4080 super seems to make far more sense & tick all the boxes.
@@TrialBySquire they are almost the same thing. Rather buy 7800xt with great cooler like Hellhound than cheap GRE model with dual fan or something. I got both right now, Hellhound 7800xt and xfx GRE merc and Hellhound is much cooler and silent. Even if you overclocked both they will still be under 10% to each other.
@roki977 I ordered the sapphire pure 7800xt. I wanted the pulse, initially, but it sold out pretty much right as I finalized my parts list so I spent the $10 more to stick with a quality brand. Plus, I got the b650 steel legend so it works for the color scheme
Are the new cards going to be compatible with PCI 4.0? otherwise looks like there is no reason to wait, also price doesn't look very promising, I might just get a rtx 4070 ti super now, I also think 4000 series is not going to be cheaper by then, maybe even expensier.
Here in the UK I haven't seen a 6800xt on sale for a looong time. You do see the occasional 6800, but most suppliers' stock is dominated by the 7700xt & 7800xt. 6600/XT are still pretty common, as are its lacklustre replacements, the 7600/XT.
Smart choice and planning on the cards you've mentioned. I've been shopping for almost 2 months now and being decisive myself on getting anything. I currently don't have a GPU at all and it's the only thing missing from my new build in over 10 years now. so being very picky on the card but every single one you mentioned are the only ones that make sense minus that 4070 TI at the at this point I think that's a little bit on the diminishing side as you claimed, very smart shopper here and gives you the real deal. and some places make it harder to see what you need to see. but if you're shopping for future gen and want to get with 1440p a little bit smoother and you like me and always been Nvidia fan. you need to start looking at AMD honestly because I have, most benchmarking sites don't show you the whole purpose of why those AMD cards cost a little bit more for that little bit more of RAM and it's all in the 1440p. so anyone looking to upgrade be smart and either get a AMD card that Daniel's mentioned or just wait for next gen. definitely don't buy a 4060 or anything less than 8GB VRAM if you plan on using 1440p, thanks for your time Daniel. I appreciate your videos. you are the second person I've actually subscribed to in 20 years now haha
Is a used 360 12 gb for 300 dollars on Aliexpress a good option I also see a 6700XT 12 Gb for 300 Dollars used in alexpress both with shipping included? Is this okay, i don't buy amazon because no shipment outside the us or the corrier is over 100 dollars for things beyond 200 dollars.
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hey man, thanks for actually making updates instead of just renaming your older guides to the current year. you’re the best
This is not about politics, but in terms of trade, I believe Taiwan and China are treated separately. Many gaming consoles, such as the PS5, are indeed manufactured in China. However, for high-end CPUs and GPUs, they are likely all produced by TSMC in Taiwan.
Thank god someone can get to the point quickly.
daniel can you buy 9800x3d ,,,, hope you create video from 0 to 100 , buy step,assmble,game,render on it (hope you use amd graphic)
I'd love the RDNA4 product stack to be varied and interesting like RDNA2. Rx 6000 series was so awesome to me.
I'd love:
-Rx 8500 = rx 6600 xt-rx 6650xt /rtx 3060 12gb
- Rx 8600 = Rx 6700 10gb
-Rx 8700= Rx 6750 xt
- Rx 8700 xt = Rx 7700xt/rx 6800
-Rx 8800 = Rx 7800xt
-Rx 8800 xt = Rx 7900gre.
And the pricing should be around the CURRENT pricing, as off November 2024. Max GPU cost of £700 for highest RDNA4 sku.
Imagine if AMD did that. With better production features , more flesher out AV1 codec, power efficiency of Rtx 40 series.
Even if the ray-tracing is say, 80%-90% as good as 40 series ray-tracing. That'll be quite nice. And please, at least FSR 3.1 in dozens to dozens more games please (minimum 3.0).
The title should be: "The Best GPUs to Buy (Nov 2024), But I Don't Waste Your Time"
Love this format, even though I'll watch the whole thing anyway. :)
100%
So 30minutes is not wasting your time?
@@freedomdst You clearly didn't even watch the first 2 mins of the video, like... come on man
@@eeljerhal yeah i kind of stopped before the first section haha, i will wait for new gpu's that are close before deciding. But if you pick blindly without researching yourself the first rapid fire section works.
You forgot where the 7900XT and 7900GRE which is very OC capable fits in price wise currently below the 4070TI priceline.
Just got a 7900XT for around $600. Good value/performance IMO. Been watching lots of stuff around ray tracing and the verdict in my case is I'm not going to miss it.
@@scubasleeve3497did the same. But did cost 669 in Europe.
Gre is now discontinued
I can see the RX6600 slowly become the new RX580 for the foreseeable future
As in outdated inefficient paper weight?
Nah, 6600 is better than that
@@GewelRealas the very rare card that gives you good performance for reasonable price. But yeah, 6700xt is closer to that description.
its great card for 1080p gaming and 720p good streaming, if you don't earn money and want to start as casual pc gamer thats a good card to enter gaming
@@GewelReal Back then it was best for low ballers
@@GewelReal dumbest comment I've read in a good while. The 580 was an extremely solid card for its price and can still put out decent 1080p performance in most titles.
Solid timing as Black Friday is approaching… God have mercy on our wallets
Just buy a piece of s Nvidia and feel better. You could just buy a Radeon for half the price and twice the performance and ignore Turkey day deals.,
Of marketing will win and sub IQ Muricans will say Nvidia, while not being able to use or afford them.
The discounts this year for gpu and cpu are mediocre at best
It's not necessarily timing.
Just assume all videos like this coming out over the next week are because of Black Friday.
@@AG-mm9wn They haven't even all been listed yet. 🤷
@@AG-mm9wn discounts are discounts still. lmao
Just got a 6800XT Reference that looks brand new for $370 off ebay. Super happy with my upgrade, it should hold me for years
Would it be worth it to buy a used 6800XT or buy a new 7700XT?
Me over here trying to upgrade my 6800XT because I can't seem to get a clear stream to Twitch from this card. :(
@@thisdude7759 6800xt will draw more power but also gets you more performance.
@@MuahMan well fun fact I bought the Rx 6800 XT for 330 euros and I'm really happy with the upgrade, I had an RX 580 4gb and it was hell to play on, tho I did manage to get me close to 2025, had the card for 5 years, it was time to move on
@@thisdude7759 The 6800XT is significantly better, I wouldn't get a new 7700XT either way, the 7800XT is usually slightly more expensive and a better buy. I personally don't like buying used components but if you don't mind get the 6800XT, if you are like me get the 7800XT or if you have a bit more to spend the 7900GRE
You know about 6 months ago people were saying “just wait for the 5k series”. Meanwhile I had a 2070 Super that just wasn’t cutting it anymore for 2k gaming.
So, I ignored them and went all in. 7950X3D processor paired with a 4090 and also upgraded to a 32” 4k 160hz monitor. I have no regrets.
You did the right thing for sure - I did similar and bought a used 3090 for £585 GBP - it was always obvious that the 50xx series nvidia would be crazy price, crazy power eg 5080 and 5090, and it will be scalped and stock issues big time... all roads lead to the right choice being to not wait if you want value.
lol i just got a 2060 super to play in 2k
@@da3sii Nothing wrong with that, anything around a 3060 performance wise is a good choice 👍
As old saying goes, buy early enjoy asap . Price “may” drop by not much several months later, but I guess the entertainment during these months worth the money.
@@da3siibudget gang rise up
"I won´t waste your time " is the reason why I´ve put your playlist on autoplay on all our PC´s while I render my stuff. I hope it improves your significance within the algorithm. You deserve it.
Picked up an open box sapphire pulse 7800 xt for $360 at Micro Center!
dude your sponsored sleep mask section was amazing and the headphones in a sleep mask is the coolest gadget ever
Low budget 6650xt 6750xt
Mid budget get a 7800xt /7900gre if you want raw performance remember to OC the 7900gre. If you want RT and better overall tech at the cost of 5%/10% raster get a 4070 super (Avoid the 4070 is trash) get a 7800xt instead.
Hight budget wait until series 5000 and buy a used 4080 super/ 4090 from the whales.
If you don’t care about RT at all, and a 4070 Super is in your budget, it makes sense to pay $50 more and get a 7900 XT
@@TJones4L Pc part picker prices 4070 super at 560 and the 7900xt at 660. But yet again the 4070 ti super is 770. So the cycle continues. I would def had bought the 7900xt if it was only 100 more. When i bought my 4070 super was on sale for 500€ and the 7900xt was like 850/900 at that time.
4070 maybe trash, but did not have the trash connector, that is on the 4070 super ti superti, 4080... 4090 have!
I have no doubt 8000 series is going to be something not many people were anticipating and they're going to be a very compelling buy.
I copped a used 4070 super for 470 on Jawa
I bought a 1080ti to hold me over until 5000 series, I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised how well its holding up on newer games 1440p with fsr 3
Got a 2080 ti, but I agree.
Even my old 1080 is still good. These cards are examples that nvidia is just milking people with the “new” gpu releases. I bet they already have unreleased gpus that can blow away each generation. They’re just making sure they have a cash flow each year with launches
I picked up a used evga 3080 ti to hold onto for the next 5-6 years. I paid the equivalent of $500 usd for it. If this was a mistake then hey, at least I own a piece of history now that evga's gone.
Kid named mh wilds
Thanks for the video! I am upgrading from 1650 SUPER to RX 6750 XT. Hopefully this will last me for another few years as new GPUs have ridiculous prices
greed never goes away its only going to get worse
As long as you have a CPU equivalent to a Ryzen 5 5600 you're golden.
@@oswaldjh Oh yeah, 5600X, I am looking forward to maxing the settings on my games
@@wowfoelifewarcrack3297 Is it greed? Or is it survival? People have to get paid and maintain their lifestyles, no matter how expensive or cheap
@@The_Hussar Nice. BTW you do know that you now have a 1440p Gaming PC?
My RX 6700 XT was never hooked up to a 1080p monitor so I can only imagine the FPS you'll get.
I'm still undecided about getting a Manta, maybe I should sleep on it
**badoom tschhh**
Would love to see a video covering pre Black Friday prices and then the “Black Friday deals”
scattervolt did something like that
@@ipotato95 the prime day pricing in October should be a realistic benchmark. There are videos about those deals you can reference to calibrate your expectations
In my area, the best prices are ususally in July/August. By far.
Appreciate your work Daniel I’ve been watching so many of your videos learning pc parts for a build for mhWilds
I'm surprised 4070 super wasn't mentioned. Everywhere else it's a "best bang for buck" card. Now i'm confused
Waiting for a 7900xtx for 689 or less
smart
I would say if you are in the USA, its going to happen sooner than later.
So good decision overall
That could be a long time to wait.
Just got a 4070 Super. Very satisfied ❤
You did your self a disservice, unless you meant TI Super. Almost 100€ up yeah... But almost 80% the performance too.
@@zeusleague. Why?, i got both 4070S and 4070TiS, same model asus TUF, and still deciding which one im going to return, what i see is the TiS being avg 17% faster while costing 35% more... idk dude. I think he did the right chioce.
@@elwaposv The games we have at the moment don't need as much vram as they will in the future, considering you're playing on a 4k resolution or upgrade in the future, vram will become more important and the difference gap between Super and TI will increase with future games. That's my thought process.
@@zeusleague. no gpu is future proof, as of now, the best for my wallet is 4070 S, i usually keep the card until i cant turn options down in a game thats when i upgrade. I'm coming from a 1660S. There is no wrong here, the best gpu is the best one you can afford. I'm happy the guy is happy with his purchase :)
Just ordered one myself. An ASUS Dual EVO. Looking forward to getting it! Double the speed of my current Quadro P5000, so will be sweet! :D
what if i don't care about RT and want to play at 1440p at custom/high settings, not ultra, with at least 60fps? considering 7900 XT.
madlad. gives you all the knowledge without wasting your time, makes want to watch even more
If you're planning on upgrading, do it around the month of October. I got incredibly lucky when I found a new RX 6750XT around November and haven't been able to find any since then that was readily available.
Here in india, 4070 ti super is 950$(80k inr) and 7900xt is 820-850$(70k inr) depending on model. I have built a igpu(r5 7600) setup as of now and saving for gpu. What you think should be good value here🥲
All cards prices at cheapest model possible
7800 xt - 600$(48k inr)
7900 gre - 620$(52k inr)
4070 ti - 760$(65k inr)
7900 xt - - 820$(70k inr)
4070 Ti Super - 950$(80k inr)
7900 xtx -1090$(93k inr)
4080 Super -1200$(100k inr)💀
4090 -2600$(220k inr) 💀🫘
The price gap way too big 💀
Get 7900 gre the best value for performance you won't regret it
I'd also say 7900 GRE if you're on a budget and don't play 4k.
I keep an eye on the RX 7600. Right now it's only $50 more. As for Tariff's, the price increase is the least of our problems. As members of the WTO, unilaterally raising tariff's without approval means a trade war and even a blockade Malacca strait and the first island chain. We are looking at a real war here. My recommendation is UPGRAdE now or you may have to wait 2 to 3 years.
I would recommend you to get the XT version which comes with a 16 GB vram
There wont be any Tarriffs, China will bend to Trump's will.
But I understand that getting cheaper stuff made with slave labor is what the Democratic party was built on(and a Civil war started over).
rx7600 is trash cmon dude. thats literally playing in kiddie leagues. is it even better than the 4060 ti? go big or go home. avoid 60 anything, go atleast 700, whether it be a rx6800, or a 3070 super/3080 super, even a 4070 super. do not get a rx7600. get the intel battlemage gpus that just came out. literally $300 for a gpu that performs better than the 4060 ti 16gb
I’m likely buying a 7900gre on Black Friday. I got a used 7800x3d last week.
I went with the new release 9800X3D as was going for 7800X3D but then new chip releases and went with a sapphire pulse 7900XT was going go nitro but I went for a non rgb type build and I liked the aesthetics
Bro, 4060 for 1080p, VRAM is not an issue, 8GB is more than enough
I've got 24GB and wish i had more.
8GB on 1080p IS an issue. It´s been proven multiple times now.
If you only play older/esport games or are are fine paying a premium and lowering settings, go for it.
MicroCenter has the ASUS DUAL RX 7800 XT OC at $450 which is really good value if you want the potential of FSR4 in the future. I bought the $430 6800 XT in September so I might have missed on FSR4 but its a great deal if you have the extra money.
I seen the hellhound for similar might get it for my dad for his Xmas 🎄 box 📦
While the 4070 Ti Super might be the lowest cost card that can deliver an ok RT performance, you get the same rasterisation performance on a 7900 XT, which is 120 bucks lower in cost. The premium you pay for Nvidia features is quite a thing, this is also by far the largest gap we have anywhere between 2 similarly powerful cards in price. Might be worth a mention.
FSR makes the 7900xt junk basically. Upscaling is basically required these days.
Except its missing nvidia reflex and dlss making it both worse for competitive multiplayer games and effectively slower in more demanding titles where you can basically turn on dlss quality for free at 1440p.
I'd bet that the 50 series cards will cost a LOT more than the 40 series cards did at launch due to the lack of competition from AMD/intel. Nvidia can name whatever price they want as there is simply no alternative if you want a GPU with that kind of performance .
Got a new 7700 XT for 370€ a week ago for 1440p Gaming
Great Value for that Price 👌
when the 6800xt is $430 and you can get a 7800xt for $470 would it not make sense to get the 7800xt instead?
No. Same GPU but 10% more expensive. Don't be fooled by the newer generation. If you look at the GPU Techpowerup chart that Daniel uses, you'll see that the 7800 XT is only 5% faster, but for 10% more money. The same goes for Ray tracing performance.
With this logic you would never buy anything because the 7900 GRE is "only" $60 more expensive but 10% faster. But why stop there when the 7900 XT is "only" $100 more expensive than the GRE but 20% faster. But wait, what about the 7900 XTX? Do you know what I mean?
I got my Power colour Fighter RX6600 8GB in October last year for £180 and for 1080p it's AMD answer to what the RX580 8GB was. It's a brilliant card runs cool can do 60fps on most games at 100w it's a silent card well worth it
Next year though I'm building a new rig and I'm after 1440p gaming and the 7700XT is what I'm aiming for next. I wish you could still get a 6700XT in the uk
I just pulled the trigger on a Saphire nitro+ 7900 XTX while having a 3090, but I'm in a weird situation because of two things.
I've switched to Linux 100% during this year, where even though the NVIDIA card was doing mostly all right for me, there are still some headaches with some technologies that I don't have any issue with running on my full AMD laptop. So it's mostly a convenience kinda choice, I want to be able to use my hardware while spending the least amount of time possible with reading and finding out solutions to make things work. Might sound contradicting from a person using Linux, but that's a different topic why I jumped ship from Windows.
Other thing is that I'm leaving my home country for possibly a longer time, at least 4 months but if it goes well maybe even years, I know the used market here and I'm confident that I can sell my 3090 for a decent amount of money to make the expense of buying a new GPU a bit less painful. 😄
AMD's marketing about they're not going to make a high end product also not helping my case, I know I want to try out AMD on Linux, but why would I wait for their next gen if I can already buy a good GPU with decent amount of VRAM now.
yeah I got the exact same card a month ago, its great so far, I recommend overclocking it with a 1090mv undervolt and +15% on the power limit as I can get like 10% more fps while the card still runs at 63c with an 80c hotspot
@@riot5093 thanks for the suggestion, I'll try 🙂
@@H4GRlD do note that not all 7900xtxs can run that low of a undervolt. My Sapphire Nitro+ version can only do 1110mV lowest at any core frequency below 3100mhz as a hard floor without crashing and 2664mhz vram (Samsung vram chips can only go this far but I heard Hynix can do higher vram OC)
Also fast vram timings is broken on newer drivers for some reason (instant black screen)
Sold my 3090 this week and got the 7900 XT for the same price. Was really unhappy with the dumb 3090 design with half the VRAM having no cooling and the temperatures the card generated. 7900 XT runs 12*C less.
Thanks for your numerous analysis and recommendations. I chose to get a 4080 super for a few reasons: 1-my current cpu is a 12700k and matches it well without bottleneck (which I will have on the new graphic cards likely and I want to use my current cpu to the best of it’s ability before upgrading). 2-my power supply is 750 just enough for a power savvy 4080, otherwise upgrade is needed. 3-I would rather wait for the best version of the 50 series that will likely come out a year later as NVIDIA often does. 4-they will not be cheaper than the current cards anyway 5-the functions they will offer will likely not add anything to my gaming experience until the super/ti versions come out 6-avoid scalpers and potential early issues 7-a good card can always be upgraded
I also bought a 4080 super not long ago dont wory it will be fine for 2-3 years for sure.. but afther the 6000 series will come for sure :D so we can wait
@ indeed. I’ actually just got it, will set it up later to replace my 3080 10gb. But thinking abt what I want to play, only a handful of games might actually push it, which is why 60 series might actually make sense in time, we’ll see
Congrats, that was exactly the right card to buy for bang for buck now - I nearly did the same used 6months ago but grabbed a used 3090 for the vram instead - I should have bought the 4080 super - it's the ideal card.
Solid.
@@marknewellmusic indeed 3090 is pretty solid; it’s a bit hard to clearly evaluate the benefits of more VRAM vs newer technology without enough testing
Question would be will 7000 amd cards support fsr4? Some say yes and someone say no. AI upscaler for amd will be a must soon
Asrock challenger 7900GRE for $559. Getting 329 fps on the witcher 3 with x670e asrock steel legend and ryzen 9 7900x 12-core cpu.
But 7900 xt for 650$ tho
Not worth it. FSR is unusable. 8800xt will be cheaper and better in a few weeks. But then you still have to deal with FSR. I would not buy any amd card considering how upscaling is required these days
@@Dempig there are leaks of fsr 4 using AI that would be compatible with rdna 3 and 4 and should make it a lot better
@@Dempig also at 4k resolutions fsr 3.1 looks pretty good and at 1440p you could argue its "ok"
@@riot5093 1440p xess is pretty solid
I was just able to get a 7900xt on Newegg for 560 ish before tax with an edu discount and for using zip as the payment processor on 11/17
Daniel deserves more views. I'm get to find a channel that explains gpu's and more in such an explainable manner. I wish he was my math tutor.
Thank you Sensei Owen, sending this youtube to my sis whose thinking of picking up a gaming PC. I hope she'll find actionables that jives with the key point you're emphasizing :3 Keep rock'n on and rock'n hard!! :)
I don't think the 4070 ti super is a good buy considering you can get a 7900 xt for cheaper and it will do 4k ultra with features like hyperRX and AFMF
7900xt cant do 4k in current gen games, even with FSR. And FSR is unusable even at 4k it looks horrible.
i bought the 6800xt back in the day for like 700, and no regrets here, thing is a beast on 1440p.
Just bought a brand new RTX 3060 for 300€. Couldn't been happier!
Which game you're gonna play first? When I got my 3060, the first game I played was Unity - I had a huge backlog(still do) haha
bought a used great condition 3090 zotac for $440 :-}
lmao wtf why. Thats near launch price 4 years later
@@Frozoken must be cause they're European all the ones on Amazon are 270$ murican
@@BovineIntervention 270 EU here also, he just overpaid.
I want to buy AMD for a better deal, but the games I play all have a poor FSR implementation while DLSS blows it out of the water.
If you play current gen AAA I would not buy AMD, I have a 6950xt and FSR is unusable.
If you buy the cheaper AMD GPU with more vram you will likely get more fps in native resolution than the more expensive NVIDIA GPU using dlss upscaling...
i bought a 2060 super over the 6600 just for this reason
@@Dempig what resolution are you at
280$ for 3060 is horrendous. WTF man!
Going for budget gpu to save money usually ends up being more expensive because you will end up replacing it sooner than later
It is always advisable to make the most of your investment when upgrading your PC, as these upgrades are meant to last for several years (4-5 years) if done correctly. Recently 5-6 months ago, I upgraded my gaming laptop PC to an RTX 4070 Ti 12gb Vram and an i7 13th generation graphics card, along with a 360hz screen and 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD with a recent 32 gb RAM upgrade as of today! Before the upgrade, I was running with an RTX 2070 paired with an i7 10th gen cpu that i purchased in 2020; it lasted me 4 years able to run games at respectable High/ultra settings. I am pleased to report that I have not encountered any issues with any game, even when playing with maximum settings and RTX enabled. Never did even when I was on 16gb of RAM with the same specs.
The key is to purchase the best PC that you can afford at the time, as this will determine how long it will be able to play the latest games at respectable maximum or high settings for the next 4-5 years.!
Why did you skip over the AMD RX 7900XT VS the 4070 Ti Super as the performance is much closer than the 7900XTX you mentioned and costs a LOT cheaper! Basically you skipped over the best peformance for the money card in that class!!!
The 7900xt is not worth buying. FSR is terrible. 8800xt is a month or so away which will be better and cheaper. But even then, FSR makes it not worth buying
@@Dempig You forget that the prices for the 7900xt has come down and in gives very good fps at native resolution. A lot of people don't care for ray tracing or fsr and for them it makes a lot of sense to go for the 7900xt and you get 20GB of Vram. The new cards will only hit the markets in Feb 2025 and the prices could be vary high if the are higher inport tarifs. Also FSR 4.0 should be better an backwards compatible unless it needs a dedicated AI processing unit.
Where I live, I just bought a RX 7600 for 230€ because of black friday sale. I think it was a great deal.
Yeah thats pretty good
I debated waiting for the 5000 series. would be nice and all, but I'm concerned about availability and wild markups over msrp for some time after it comes out (even without getting into tariffs and the resulting economic disruption). while I'm sure the 4000 series will fall in price some time after that, I'm unsure by how quickly or by how much. there will obviously be used ones going on the market, but there's also undoubtedly a lot of people waiting for that to happen who will be competing for them. my conclusion was that trying to time the market "perfectly" was a good way to waste a lot of time I can't get back to save a little money that I can make more of. I can afford what I can afford, I'll buy the best thing I can get within that range when I decide I'm tired of current hardware.
Once again here to request a look at the history of generational GPU price:performance improvement over the years 🙏
your video screams that you are a geeky guy making blog like videos and not a 'youtube as a career guy" .. keep that spirit up. i love it
I love buying a new GPU every month.
Picked up a full AM5 setup and a 7900xt - upraded from an lga1150 setup 1080ti.
Worth it.
Perfect timing, I'm building for me and my friend as we speak, so your input is making me a lot more confident in my choices!
Dude, you rock! I've been looking for advice on what to buy to upgrade my pc for playing the games that I enjoy playing (and taking advantage of Black Friday deals) and this has to be one of the best channels on here for pc building stuff that I've found.
8:04, i know the gpus are imported now to avoid tariffs but they will raise the price anyway because tariffs.
4070 Ti Super costs at least 900 here. So i went with the 7900 XT for 669.
7:15 - 7:45 oh wow a level-headed analysis. don't take it the wrong way, I would've never expected that (from you).
He doesn't seem to be aware that the Biden admin already had a 25% tariff on semiconductor imports from China, which the Biden admin increased to 50% in May of this year. I doubt the incoming admin will change anything with semiconductor tariffs, so the consumer won't experience any change in prices.
Thank you for curating this gold Daniel!
Managed to snatch Inno3D RTX 4070 Ti for 400USD at local used market.
Absolute steal here in Czech Republic considering new one costs 900USD+
still happy with my Vega64 since so many years and got it for cheap
Daniel i almost never see you recommend 7800 xt. Is it really not worth it for 470 dollars?
Man. I was finally willing to give up my 1080ti and is looking at the 4080 super. Now it sounded like I might need to wait until the 5080s are released in January to see how they stack up. Just hoping I don't miss a good Black Friday deal and I regret it in January.
I actually know the pricing and trust me I would give the 50 series a swerve I know because I come from the future 😅
You might as well just snag it now before Trump takes office, because believe me, whatever the 50 series is rumored to cost now is going to be even more when he’s in charge.
For me ( in Europe, where power is expensive) the actual power draw in gaming is also a factor. Not speaking about tdp but the amount of power the card actually draws while gaming. Plus less heat in my room during summertime also matters
How well do you think the 7900 gre fits in to this list at around $530 US (if at all)?
Lol i was afraid of tarrifs, and didnt realize its just a usa thing.. too bad i will be barely able to get something like 7060 anyway to upgrade my 3080..
Great video. Me and my 4080 Super living it up like a doomsday prepper. GL out there bois!
Just grabbed a 7900xt for 620, did i mess up? I had originally got a 6800xt for 430 but wanted more so returned it. But now I'm looking at that xtx.... will it go down soon?
Naw the 7900xt was a steal at near $600 the xtx is about 10-20% better at 4k depending on the game but even the best sale was just under $800. Highly unlikely that the new 8800xt is both much better then the 7900xt and less then $600 as well.
I just scored a new Asrock Phantom RX 7900 XT 20GB for $600. Do you reckon this was a good buy?
Deffo I just got the sapphire 7900XT for much the same and I only play at 1440p I’m not impressed by ray tracing plus requires a 4070ti minimum and I prefer play at native rather than using upscalers if possible 😅
I just got the same one. IMO that's very good value for $$$.
@@scubasleeve3497 I changed mind again and went with the 7900XTX probably more than I need and I got noctua cpu cooler and case fans will buy another NVME at a later date
Got the 4070 TI Super for about $700 ($750 with tax), plus the Indiana Jones game you mentioned! I'm in that exact category you described (I want the NVidia features at 1440p "lowest" price).
I wait for 5080 or 5070. Best case scenario would be if I could keep my 600w PSU. Oh and availability and hopefully under 1000€.... On a 3060ti rn and UE5 is killing me
u will not be able to keep ur 600w psu
@@conorduh I mean with a 5070 I might. 4070 super is also fine on 600w.
Will need a much higher psu and trust me I’m from the future the prices are absurd high trust me on this 😅
@@rejectxzhonestly 5070 ti will also be fine if ur psu is good. 5070ti maxes out at 300w so you have another 300w to spare. You only need to overspec for bad psus that can't handle short spikes.
@@Frozoken Are you sure? I want to go for 5070ti. I was thinking of getting a 1000w now on black friday week but if my PSU is enough thats awesome. I have a EVGA Gold I think its good and use a 5800x3d also.
Happy Asrock 6800 XT owner. Highly recommend that card for 1440p! I bought it last year for 540€ to pair it with r5 7600x.
Getting a 9800X3D and sapphire 7900XT look forward to seeing how it runs 😅
Also I only play at 1440p it’s the sweet spot I find
Also I only play at 1440p it’s the sweet spot I find
@@BrotherYusuf Oh Idk your current system but I bet you are gonna have helluva good ride with that rig! :-)
@ my current system is an LCD steam deck 😆
Grabbed a 7900xtx because I don't care about ray tracing nor dlss I should receive it soon
Good man I was tempted but got the 7900xt as not fussed about 4K plus I wanted buy a better cpu cooler and an extra 2TB SSD I had money get the better one but I’m trying to keep to my budget otherwise I know I would spend too much on everything and go all out on motherboard and everything
Good not everyone sticking with Nvidia as competition is good plus I don’t see the appeal of upscaling I rather play native at a few frames less 😅
@ native all the way. I went for the 7900xtx because I wanted to treat myself , I haven't done it in a while . I've been saving a bit every month and it landed on this Black Friday sales so I'm pretty hyped for the delivery
@ and yeah nvidia isn't worth the extra money just for dlss and ray tracing . The 4080 super is 200€ more than the xtx where I live
@@Raven3557 if I wasn’t buying a full build o would be sure to buy the best one especially at a good price point hope you enjoy your 7900 XTX
@@Raven3557 which brand you go for I’m getting my dad powercolour hellhound 7800xt I went for sapphire pulse 7900xt for my build aesthetics on my new computer
I bought my 6700xt at inflated prices 3 years ago, I will not do that again. In that time prices have cooled but with the promised tariffs coming in snagged up 7800xt Red Devil and with the trends we have been seeing with gen to gen increases I feel I made a safe decision.
Why were you refering to radeon 6000 series cards and not 7000?
Got an EVGA 3060 XC 12gb for $230. Seems like an okay deal. Going to be paired with a 5700x3d.
230 is actually fine.
The fact that the 3060 and 6750xt are still the go to gpus years after they came out says something about how badly both amd and Nvidia shit the bed with their 4000 and 7000 series generation.
was wondering why no one recommends the RX 6800 non XT its just as good
Because it's currently very hard to find. If you're lucky you can find one at best buy in the US.
Subscribed!!! Super mega useful video
I think that the 50 series is going to be underwhelming and over priced. They care less about the gaming gpu market and more about ai stuff rn. Also you had a good point with the tariffs. It's possible that could raise the price of the gpu market slightly and effect the 50 series cards coming here to Canada. With this uncertainty I decided to grab a 4070 ti super to cover me for the next 8-10 years. However I did have a little regret but maybe it will be the right call.
Should I get the 4070 super or a Rx 7900 xt? The RX is way cheaper at the moment
The lowest priced 4070 super is around $590, while the lowest priced 7900XT is priced at $640. That's a $50 (8.5%) difference in price and up to 28% in rasteized performance and fairly even in some ray-tracing tasks (aside from heavy RT).
Go buy it, AMD could use the business.
I wouldn't buy a 7900xt , upscaling is basically required for current gen games even at 1440p. FSR is unusable
the difference is 20% not 28% and they are not even close at rt, not that it matters really cuz 1 the 4070 super is not that great at heavy rt either and 2 i'd personally much rather 20% more fps than having rt. amd finally decided to drop the price of the 7900xt and xtx to where they should have been from the start but i fear it's way too late now and people will probably just wait for the newer series and see what's up.
@@Dempig what the hell are you talking about my 7900xt eats everything on 1440p without FSR. i only use FSR if i wanne check out Raytracing.
The 4070 is cheaper and will wreck the 7900XT in every game with DLSS.
Glad I bought a 4080 strix by the start of the month, had found a sweet deal for it for 1.250$
Haven't been up to date with GPUs since I bought my 6700XT at the end of December 2022 for around 399. Interesting to see that the 6600 and the 6750XT makes the lists but no longer the 6700XT.
Thank you so much for your videos. Your knowledge helped me out so much and making my decision and the details are amazing. I had to subscribe. Please keep doing your thing.
How many years of support can we expect on arc cards as i want to build a future proof pc but im a bit scared that out of nowhere intel will end drivers support?
Nobody can answer that question with complete confidence. However, as mentioned in this video, I will say that AMD generally offers similar performance at the same price as Arc GPUs, while having fewer games with inexplicably bad performance. In other words, I don't generally recommend Arc GPUs over AMD alternatives.
Soo should i not get the 4080 super over the 4070 ti super?
what if in a region where 6700 and 6750 are not available? what would they would buy which is better than rtx 3060 12gb
just calculate price divided by fps. (smaller number is better)
probably 7700xt or 7600xt
Something you should mention is also the Nvidia codecs and cores set aside for things like Shadowplay, AV1 etc. For content creation Nvidia is way better.
Is there any consideration to the power draw? The power draw on a lot of these AMD cards nearly 100W or 70% more than their competitors. I'm a lighter gamer now and that would still run me ~$30 extra a year extra plus more heat and stress on PSU and rest of PC, and need to run room AC room more. So one should really factor in that $30-80 a year extra cost of owning an AMD GPU.
Until Blackwell comes. But Nvidia is allowed to sell power hogs.
what about 7900GRE and 4070 Super both are around 550-650 ranges, these seems to be more than enough for safe 1440p, 4070Ti Super cost over 200 euros more.
What about the RX 7700 XT ? not good?
Best single slot low profile?
Looking at replacing my 3070 for MH Wilds next year, initial thought was to wait for the 5070 but the 12gb vram for what will very likely be $800 to get on launch is nothing short of unacceptable, there's games from years ago that get over 12gb maxing all settings and to expect the consumer in 2025 (which they will) to pay over $500 for 12 is insane.
Unless bench testing of the initial offerings shakes the landscape up a 4070 ti super or even a 4080 super seems to make far more sense & tick all the boxes.
wanted to see where the rx 7800 xt fit in but 🤷
I guess it's been demoted...
And here I just ordered one (but am watching prices for a possible switch to the 7900 gre)
@@TrialBySquire they are almost the same thing. Rather buy 7800xt with great cooler like Hellhound than cheap GRE model with dual fan or something. I got both right now, Hellhound 7800xt and xfx GRE merc and Hellhound is much cooler and silent. Even if you overclocked both they will still be under 10% to each other.
@roki977 I ordered the sapphire pure 7800xt. I wanted the pulse, initially, but it sold out pretty much right as I finalized my parts list so I spent the $10 more to stick with a quality brand. Plus, I got the b650 steel legend so it works for the color scheme
@TrialBySquire been eying the powercoler hellhound one for a new am5 build, as it seemed to keep the coolest in tests.
@@thomasnielsen8554 its epic cooler and its not much expensive than ref. models. I love it..
Are the new cards going to be compatible with PCI 4.0? otherwise looks like there is no reason to wait, also price doesn't look very promising, I might just get a rtx 4070 ti super now, I also think 4000 series is not going to be cheaper by then, maybe even expensier.
Here in the UK I haven't seen a 6800xt on sale for a looong time.
You do see the occasional 6800, but most suppliers' stock is dominated by the 7700xt & 7800xt.
6600/XT are still pretty common, as are its lacklustre replacements, the 7600/XT.
And by far the best value for money is the 7800xt, sometimes available for as little as £360.
Just got a rx 6800 for $360 to upgrade from my 5700xt for 1440p. Super happy.
Smart choice and planning on the cards you've mentioned. I've been shopping for almost 2 months now and being decisive myself on getting anything. I currently don't have a GPU at all and it's the only thing missing from my new build in over 10 years now. so being very picky on the card but every single one you mentioned are the only ones that make sense minus that 4070 TI at the at this point I think that's a little bit on the diminishing side as you claimed, very smart shopper here and gives you the real deal. and some places make it harder to see what you need to see. but if you're shopping for future gen and want to get with 1440p a little bit smoother and you like me and always been Nvidia fan. you need to start looking at AMD honestly because I have, most benchmarking sites don't show you the whole purpose of why those AMD cards cost a little bit more for that little bit more of RAM and it's all in the 1440p. so anyone looking to upgrade be smart and either get a AMD card that Daniel's mentioned or just wait for next gen. definitely don't buy a 4060 or anything less than 8GB VRAM if you plan on using 1440p, thanks for your time Daniel. I appreciate your videos. you are the second person I've actually subscribed to in 20 years now haha
Is a used 360 12 gb for 300 dollars on Aliexpress a good option I also see a 6700XT 12 Gb for 300 Dollars used in alexpress both with shipping included? Is this okay, i don't buy amazon because no shipment outside the us or the corrier is over 100 dollars for things beyond 200 dollars.