So HiRez Decided To Buff Lifesteal And Healing...
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In the new patch, healing increase items as well as antiheal have received a buff, now affecting all types of healing including things like lifesteal and HP5. This buff especially affects Caduceus Shield and Rod of Asclepius. Because of these changes, healing in certain situations can be massively increased, especially when it comes to life steal. Today, we're testing these interactions to find out how for example Typhon's Fang's passive and anti heal factor in.
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Fun Fact: Soul Gem gives 2 stacks on EVERY ANUBIS ABILITY because the passive also has prot reduction so 2 stacks there. Fun times for Anubis ahead
Wait what?? Seriously?? I had no idea that was a thing
Soul Gem isn't really good on Anubis though
@@Jormyyy soul gem is quite the weird one when it comes to what it does and doesn't stack on. For example, you get 1 stack for eating a corpse as Ah Puch. Only 1 stack. Ever.
@@Jormyyy ngl i build meme anubis full lifesteal and never noticed
@@kriegaone3658 what? if OP is true, you can get even more ridiculous anubis burst
You Def helped me the most at this game. Def getting my vote.
He’s trash
If this doesn't ring bells about getting anti heal, I have no idea what will.
Bruh if they didn't get Antiheal before, they never will.
But anti heal subtracts from bonus heal, so now you have to have two people on the team getting anti heal
@@iBasheveryone if the other team has at the very least 1 person that heals teammates, all 5 should get anti heal. Simple.
@@iBasheveryone you should’ve had at the very least 2 people with antiheal on the team anyway. Only player that specifically can make a small case to not get it, is the carry
@@iBasheveryone But You Win The Game
Hel Mains with both sides of their personalities: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hels 1 in light stance would possibly be the best self heal in the game if you have lifesteal and ascelepius
Makes sense gotta make people get that tier 5 skin 💸💸
@@tangodown7377 lmao no.
Mail of renewal and stone of gaia passives gonna be nutty on tanks with cadecius or ascelelepius. Renewal specifically because you can have it proc multiple times in a fight if your doing your job right
YEAH MY HEAL ITEMS LIIIIIVEEEE
Critical and lifesteal w protections on my ratatoskr make me feel like a real god sometimes. No giving away the build tho.
@@penetratorx6496 give it up!
@@penetratorx6496 release the build
The heal increase affects Stone of Gaia passive now... Prepare to have tanks with insane sustain now guys. Imagine a King Arthur with Soul Eater, Stone of Gaia, and Caduceus Shield... Disgusting...
I thought they learned their lesson with hecate passive
man time to dust off my odin skills then.
Guess they buffed him for a reason :D
I've been using him lately in support and it feels good shutting down healing on the enemy side, only problem with him is he is very mana hungry in the beginning
Guess i will too then...
my sobek solo build that i use sometimes against very heavy heal comps should be enough: relics ankh and thorns and then also get divine relatively early like second or third and they dont really heal if you hit your 3
I think if we get a healer meta, sobek is becoming meta too
He already is meta when my rank games I play
You gonna be seeing cu chu and sobek just for the level 1 anti heal
I knew something changed when I had almost 25,000 player healing with Chang’e.
Just give us old glad shield back and this change is perfect.
The title is wrong "SO Highrez Ajax Decided to buff anubis ... again"
So wait....King Arthur+Soul Eater+Cad Shield+Stone of Gai=Heal machine? Or am I thinking to far
Not really to far more like, to far behind as Glad Shield doesn’t heal anymore
@@xfirex4523 Misread big dog Cad Shield is the physical version of Rod of Assclaps and increases healing and such
@@projectjrod9562 oof you have won this battle
@@xfirex4523 he said cad shield lol
Your vids are the most informative in how you break it down! Got my vote
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Been playing Anubis recently as he was always one of my favorites and I've been getting back into the game. I have to say, I'm terrified and excited for him. Time to see him really shine once again.
He already shines. He's a pub stomper up until gold-plat but he wins lane no matter what
Honestly I understand antiheal is a bit too strong currently.. namely divine ruin. And I don’t think a healer should have all their healing reduced. And I think that counter building should always be a thing. There is no real way to “counter antiheal” besides not getting hit or staying away from the tanks. I know that many will disagree though. I honestly think there should be more of a antiheal cap or diminishing more returns. No I don’t main healers either. None of a gods kit should be rendered mostly irrelevant even through counterbuilding. If they get too strong through the “heal boost” of these 2 items they could reduce their stats so they are slightly better than 40% antiheal items.
Antiheal limits your early build choices because if you don't rush it then healing is incredibly abusive. If you choose to go for a stacking build or want to get crusher then you're throwing because an Aphro or Cama or even a Sol will get free reign to do what they like.
@@legefy against aphro she just heals out of combat anyway. Antiheal doesn’t do much there at least early. Later antiheal is a must. I find it more important to make sure her ult is always down. As for cama yes I get antiheal first or second item in solo.
@@fadeddragon123 She'll be healing a good 300~400 even by the time you rush it. In a 2v2 or 3v3 that's a gamechanging swing.
@@legefy I’m also a selfish solo laner who keeps her in lane. The enemy Aphrodite rarely rotates in solo for some reason. If they do rotate I usually just set up a bait with my jungle and she dies anyway.
also, typhon's fang passive and anubis' passive aren't exactly neither healing increases nor lifesteal increases, they're lifesteal healing increases, which would be above lifesteal itself when doing the maths, but below the regular healing increases. That's why they allow to break the lifesteal cap, but the percentage increased from those passives is still decreased by the antiheal. It's weird and complicated, idk if I explained it well. But anyway, it's counterable yet annoying.
I hope healing comps don't become broken I wish they'd introduce a different way to counter anti heal like a stat that reduces how long it affects you or maybe a relic to cleanse it or an item that will cleanse it if certain conditions are met
I wouldn't mind HiRez "buffing" Healing if they also buffed Anti-Heal characters.
Cerberus is pretty good, but his passive is not consistent anti-heal and he has to build anti heal plus his passive like everybody else. Sobek has to get close enough to apply his, so does Bacchus but they work well enough.
And Ah Puch is dying at the bottom of everybody's tierlists.
i think they're just scared of having gods that entirely shut down other god to the point where their kit is useless
Yemoja has become even more powerful now. I can't wait.
Omg I put this build on Hades....
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Cerberus passive has been having a great time!
When life steal is buffed the extra hits you can take often makes these mandatory.
It starts letting you hit enemies, fights which result in less the death are pointless, and it just gets worse.
As is, I felt it was in a good place, but making it better in anyway has a long term side effect of becoming mandatory.
The exception is Gods who get 1-shot.
Yeah my friends and I played an omnipotence our enemy was all the healing mages (Aphro, Change, Hel) plus a nu wa and a random warrior and we couldn’t put a dent in their healing with anti heal items.
So, ya'll telling me my "Unkillable Sustain" Cu Chulainn, Achilles, and Chaac builds are becoming *incredibly* viable?
You forgot Herc
Care to share this unkullable Cu Chulainn build????
@@monkeytoes1155 Haven't played enough Herc to think of a good build.
@@juliantorres7896
-Stone of Gaia
-Mail of Renewal/Cad. Shield (only do Cad. Shield if you have a healer since Cu Chulainn can't proc it himself to my knowledge)
-Gladiator's Shield
-Hide of the Nemean Lion
-Genji's Guard
-And either The Sledge if you want more power procs off of Glad Shield, or some sort of lifesteal item for more sustain (I typically go Soul Eater but Bloodforge can be fun too).
Obviously this isn't a 100% "YOU WILL NEVER DIE EVEN IN A 6V1" build, but the mix of tankiness and auras makes it work pretty well. Cad. Shield procs really well with a Ra on your team, but Mail of Renewal works pretty well overall so long as you play it right and get the healing proc off kills and assists.
Really think there should be an armor that give both types of protections and has something similar to Cerberus passive. It wouldn’t be exactly like anti heal but would help slow some of the healing and life steal
I've been playing wukong and set with both soul eater and cad shield in mid lmao. Its not ok
Its okay believe me
I like the forest background you used :D
Chang'e likes this new meta.
it's really not hard to have 105% antiheal in most teams tho. Divine ruin, brawler's beatstick and contagion/pestilence are very viable items, so this buff actually kinda makes sense. You can still have all that and heal for 0 if the enemy team really wants to, and it would still be viable overall.
and I'm also saying this cuz ankh is a thing, and there are way more healing reductions abilities in smite than there are healing amplifying items:medusa, sobek, bacchus, serqet, odin, osiris, chang'e and ah puch with the built-in 100% antiheal, he would counter anubis in mid. And those are only the ones I remember.
So this isn't a buff just to healers or self healers, it's also a buff in viability to all those gods, especially ah puch.
The return of the lich Arachne. Also, I can see like a fafnir with rod asclipios
That was a rocket science for me dude but excellent work for sure.
I think it would have been more interesting to see what Tahuti would have done because, realistically speaking, Tahuti is a much better item than asclepius on every single aspect: at max Asclepius will give you +15% healing whereas Tahuti gives you a 25% bonus when your target is below 50%, and then there's the huge boost of raw DPS as well with tahuti that you'll never get with asclepius.
I think with that new healing mecanic Tahuti is much better than the other one. Could be wrong though I have not checked for myself.
Tahuti effectively reduces the max health of your healing target being the reduced healing over 50% health. You're healing for 15% less then the other, which leaves you exposed to power builds. The exception is that you have a bigger window to get people out of execute range.
Tahuti healing twice gives you 225% healing. Asclepius gives you 230% healing.
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I think this was a positive change. A lot of gods get shut down real hard with max antiheal (brawlers/toxic blade + divine + pestilence) in a team fight
8:37 woah he didnt get a full bancrofts ON ANUBIS
Indirect Osiris, Serqet and Odin buff. Poggers
Now THAT'S a lotta lifesteal!!
Really hope you win the golden bolt. Your the only smite youtube i watch/know of
I’m frothing at the mouth, big health unlimited heal tanks, like xing Shen and Sylvanis
Your getting my vote sir. I am confused though. What items should you get on Anubis now? I always do magic boots with the Bancroft talon but what else do you use? Is soul gem really that viable now? :3 thanks for the help! I’m new XD
I would definitely recommend building Bancrofts, Shoes of the Magi and Typhon's Fang at some point. You also might want some flat pen like Divine Ruin or Spear of the Magus. If the game goes long enough, Soul Gem may actually be viable after that, especially if a teammate builds Caduceus Shield!
@@DukeSloth thank you so much! Definitely going to give this build a try today! Hope that you win amigo. 😁😁😁
Any knowledge about if Caduseus Shield affects Vamana's regen in his ult now? Because it doesnt say regen but in the changed but itd be cool if it did, would make him a bit busted
Yeah it works. It worked before the patch was well.
Somebody said it didn't affect him before, I never verified that part so not sure. But it definitely should affect his ult now.
Amazing thank you both, Duke, you should run the numbers on that, because with a consistent Cad Shield Effect and a full ult timer i swear you can full heal from it.
As a Cerberus player this makes my day
Duke how will the healing changes effect Pele? Also already got my vote. You are the number one source for me and my gaming
By the way, Caduceus is a roman name, and pronounced "kah-doo-see-us". The second C is like an S.
There was something about a antiheal starter item so I'm not suprised.
Hi rez: anubis isn't broken enough, people aren't complaining 24/7. Let's make it so his life steal can make him invincible even against anti heal.
Also hi rez: that's a fantastic idea, let's get right on that 👍👍👍
Player complain for nothing pal. Anubis is not broken... A lot of player don't have enough knowledge to counter anubis that's it.
Goobs and freya and ao are allready unkillable even with one antiheal item they still heal to much for anyone to box them. You need at least two antiheal items and or upgraded curses. Like these gods have become like loki once was. He required you to build agaimst him and his ult always forces two relics. Same with goobis and the other. They require heavy counterbuilding and relics to deal with them. This is proof enough that they are stronger than most because other gods arent that strong that you have to invest that hard into dealing with them
@@henrikhetland7005 if they out heal you just wait and farm support /jungler is here to help if your late in xp gold. Wait until ur team have anti heal upgrade cursed anhk if the supp have and enjoy. Heal in a team fight isn't great if they have no place to heal. So you can bait around fire giant after cleaning
Erwan Lajoie when your teammates don’t build anti heal and you have a lone Divine ruin lol
@@ans-dq9xh if you don't have a root you won't kill him, he'll just graveyard and full heal lol
Anubis passive
Bancroft
Soul gem
Heal rod
Typhon
Pyth
*balanced*
i was playing against an anubis same level and everything our team all had anti heal pestilence, toxic blade, brawler, and divine. This anubis fucking out healed against our anti healing by just spamming 2 3 1 and ult one of the most broken ass gods i swear, this life steal buff is just gonna make it broken.
Does asclepius have interactions with the power gain from typhons at all?
Can someone bless me with a crazy Anubis build and Hel build with this new update?
Magi Shoes Bancrofts Typhon's Divine/Magus Reaver Mantle Tahuti (or magus / shard) for Anubis. For Hel you can go Cdr boots chronos divine reaver mantle tahuti shard or cdr boots doom orb deso reaver mantle shard tahuti.
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One quick comment, Im not following the example you gave for the hebo 3. For intstance, when you add ascplepius to the build it should raise the damage to about 550, 90 power * 75% scaling + 483? If you have it avalaible, could you post the build you used for hebo? in theory, I can calculate when the anti heal is applied, since you already showed us the order that lifesteal stacks. I would like to know so I understand when its even worth building. IE: if the anti heal truly only applies to the last applied heling effect, say asclepius passive, then it probably isn't even worth building divine since you will only reduce that 25% aura down to 15%.
TLDR: if you post the build and level for hebo I can probably calculate exactly when the anti heal gets applied.
Now I do wanna try and clean the dust from Anubis. Still a lil eh because he is so easy to counter being a sitting duck for every ability but the 3.
But how did the itemizations of that background match ended with or the items you were planning to build in case the match ended earlier, I'm curious. All 6 Lifesteal like you explained?
They got rid of those functions for a reason,idk what the hell they were thinking putting it back.
Because anti heal is op and it's nice to actually be able to counter some of it
@@jodyboles8208 but now healing is OP, and it would be nice to counter it
@@DekuSkrub2129 hahaha dude you can still counter it easily. its only 25% while you can build over 100% anti heal.
@@jodyboles8208 I mean, spending 2 items and a relic on anti heal is completely unreasonable, and isn't even 100% anti heal, its 77.5% since it's multiplicative
@@DekuSkrub2129 ok and? you can still easily build alot and it is not multiplicative because you can stop all healing. so dont tell me you cant counter it when you clearly can lol
If the cad/ascelepius counteract anti heal does that mean upgraded ahnk won’t be a full 100% anti heal?
So if I understood this orrectly Rod of ass, or Cod shield counters anti heal items now? like completely?
I love playing freya but this may be too much. Did you try freya with rings and typhon? Well...that's how immortality looks like
I cant go a game in this game in any gamemode without getting anti heal
It would be great if they gave divine ruin and antiheal items cdr or mana since we use them so much against lifesteal builds
That is the exact reason they don't do what you're suggesting: Antiheal is in and of itself a strong effect, so pairing it with other potent stats is just asking for trouble. As it stands, Divine Ruin, Toxic Blade, and Beatstick all provide Flat Pen still, making them potent enough, and Shadowsteel comes with 20% crit chance. Those stats make them decent enough damage increases without bloating them
This change essentially forces everyone to build anti or fear the wrath of healers /lifesteal as well
@@saisaideron4978 here is the thing, this change literally did *nothing* to the healers and Lifesteal. These interactions have been here since Season 2. The patch only made Antiheal and healing support affect HP5, Soul Gem, and SoG. The change that made healers strong or not wasn't this patch, but the one where Cursed Ankh had its Antiheal effect halved.
@@rayhatesu hmm maybe you re right.... it s just that always going anti heal in my build every single game becomes annoying ... thank you for your answer ^^ !
@@saisaideron4978 yeah I think too .
All the buffs and nerfs I’ve seen make sense if those new items are real seems like they want the game to go into high damage, high health team fights will basically be going on for mins with all the shield and health and life steal items.
Does Cad shield increase the ability lifesteal of soil eater?
life steal and stealth heals being stronger with rod and shield will be fun;
its hard enough to get people to build life steal against obvious targets, always fun to dissect why the other team has a lead with it coming down to them sustaining through fights due to stubbornness in peoples builds
TL:DR you shouldn't have to be told to build antiheal when facing sustain(and if you are tolt then bloody well build it)
agh I guess its time to dust off Odin & Osiris has a new skin, Sobek/Chang'e/Cu/Ah honourable mentions.
Wait wait wait wait...
I thought AoE lifesteal maxed out at 33% and regular lifesteal maxed out at 100% without Asclepius.
Basic Attack heals are going to be strong eh?
Well, enjoy seeing Freya in 90% of your matches lads, this is probably going to be ridiculous with her passive
Im a basic man, i see buffs to haded solo full lifesteal, I like
At least they didnt add a lifesteal starter or blessing 🙏
Time for lifesteal Geb...
So healing/lifesteal was already op and an annoying problem in smite an now it basically broken...sweet
This explains why my Poseidon build seemed so much stronger
So rod of asclep helps with lifesteal now?
So xing tien is gonna be lit again? Hell yea.
*_[laughs in lifesteal cabra]_*
No wonder I’ve been going off with Hel
Im scared to see what your goin to do to my other favorites
So I was in a game against Hel, Freya, Chaac, Ao Kuang and trust me... Antiheal doesn't do shit, all of my team had at least 2 antiheal items and still they healed a ridiculous amount
Ok, so... lemme tell you something about that.
Assume that you are the tank, and got both Contagion/Pesilence and Brawler's/Divine. Now let's assume that you are facing a Chaac with Caduceus. You get close and smack him with an ability.
Chaac is now considered in combat and has 125% thanks to Caduceus, but your Contag/Pestilence knocks it back down to 100%. Now your offensive anti-heal kicks in, reducing it down to 60%.
60% of healing is still some serious amount, considering that Hel passive boosts her healing even more, Chaac heal got some serious scaling, and Freya gets bonus lifesteal.
I can’t wait to rush antiheal every game.
I wont be suprised if they will do sth with this next patch
I want a buff to toxic blade so bad now
I can allready see freya with 800 heal pet basic
She wont get that much just from 25% healing increase at most haha
@@jodyboles8208 Before ring of hecate nerf I could easily lifeasteal with olorun for 300+ hp per basic. With typhon and bancrofts. So funny watching arachne and bakasura trying to take you down both at once and dont stand a chance
Does vamana now heal more with caduceus?
Laughs in Hel
What about physical lifesteal? Does this stuff only apply to magical lifesteal
No, all of this applies to physical gods as well. Full lifesteal builds on physicals are just usually harder to implement, plus they usually don't have room for Cad Shield after that while still being effective
@@DukeSloth I was playing with Ama yesterday and did a hybrid build. With the shield and asi
And then did frost bound with sludge and then some defense items. I went 11-1 lol
It's already annoying that I have to get anti heal almost every game I play now it seems guaranteed. Would prefer more build variety instead of this meta
This is slightly going over my head ( to many numbers) how does this affect physical lifesteal since I and a warrior main
Same thing, healing from physical lifesteal also gets boosted by cad shield/rod of asc
Same way! It'll amplify it for the full amount and also directly counter antiheal. If you play ability-based warrior that can run Stone of Gaia and Soul Eater and have a team with sufficient sustain, you could add Cad Shield to that for very high sustain.
Im smooth brain and dont understand how this affect hp5 :c can i get an easy explanation?
HP per 5 seconds. So if you have an item with 5 HP5, you get 1 HP per second.
@@DukeSloth thank you!
@@DukeSloth wait so will rod of asclepius boost stuff like Ares AoE ability? I mean the new hp5 effect they added
@@mateopatino6949 yes
How bad Ajax in this game for keep buffing to Anubis in this game?
did hirez break antiheal again? iirc they changed antihealing to affect asclepius bonus, not just the base healing, but that was like 3 seasons ago. I get that this new "feature" only works for lifesteal but still, inconsistent gameplay mechanics make me angry
They didn't break it per se, they expanded its effects to include HP5. Before it affected potions, Lifesteal, and item/relic/ability heals only, now affects the only remaining "static method" of healing.
Also, they changed it to interact as such when Odin cage got it's 100% Antiheal effect in order to give healers that little bit of counterplay for him
is the speed buff really 15% now?
Hi rez is the publisher
But Hercules heal buff I’m smelling 👀
Only if you didn't already run Cad Shield on him before :P
Guys, this is just so everyone will complain how bad ah puch is so they can rework him
Freya and gooby gonna be clappin some salty cheeks
You getting my Vote anyway cause I love what you do ❤️
But in the future can you hire a voice over actor 😅 make a patreon we will pay 💜❤️🤙🏿
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I appreciate the comment anyways, always helps :)
@@DukeSloth Bruh. Never thought one of my fave yt's would answer to my comment lmao. Keep up the good work dude. I really really enjoy your videos. Regardless of what they are
Big brain plays by HiRez, why bother building defense items when you can just heal to full on every tick of damage you deal?
They need to buff anit healing items
For sure
So Anubis can’t be countered
There's a reason why everyone hates Aphrodite and they want to try this...
Aphro isnt that annoying more so when you can build so much antiheal easily haha
this change didn't affect aphro healing at all