Our HST in Mexico. Intercity 125 incident on level crossing.
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- 43007 is now in Mexico and after an incident on level crossing has sustained damage. Fortunately no one was injured. On initial impact the front bogie on the power car leaves the rails for a brief moment.
It is now back in revenue earning service in Mexico albeit with the damage still on show.
We were lucky enough to travel on the final timetabled Intercity 125 service in the UK with lead powercar 43007 so also included is some footage from the final day in service.
Final service of scheduled cross country running using 8 car HST at 125mph
#intercity125 #hst #class43 #railways
Excellent footage Ian, good to see 43007 still has the BR livery on while running in Mexico, not to badly damaged when you look what’s happened to the car, cheers 👍
Just shows how good the HST''s were,hardly a scratch, as for the car...
It’s a fibreglass front end.
That is utter nonsense...
it shows the exact opposite. no crumple zone which makes it deadly for the cab driver and the object that’s been hit in a crash…
Bit more than a scratch on the hst if you look properly
@@jamtart606 No they are reinforced Fibre Glass cabs
After seeing the crossing hits on Brightline in Florida, the Mexicans said "We can do that" (in Spanish, of course)
Mexico really needs to step it up with railroad safety. Too many people down there don’t even give a toss about safety.
The US is pretty bad aswell. Not as bad as Mexico, but rail safety (and general awareness) in the US is worse than in most European countries.
People don't grow up using trains, so they don't take rail safety seriously. The amount of trucks and cars that get hit each year by trains in the US is alot higher than you think. In the UK by comparison, it's extremely rare. And when something does happen it makes National News..... especially if there is a fatality, or fatalities.
@@robtyman4281 Seems to be a north america thing.... Gonna want to replace those crossings with bridges so everyone can win
@@davidty2006 .... it's also because American railways are so 'open'. By that I mean there's no fencing or wire on either side of the tracks to prevent cars or trucks from entering onto the tracks. And there are few buildings by level crossings because America is so low density.
But add these two factors in addition to people not growing up using trains; and you have the situation where drivers continually misjudge/disrespect railroads and railroad crossings.
Incidents where cars get hit by trains in crossings in the UK, do still happen, but they're extremely rare. In America they're much more common.
In the UK we are brought up to respect railways more and recognise the many dangers they pose, at the same time. None of this is evident with Americans.
Thank god it was at a low speed. If it was faster then 70 Mph, we might be living in a world where “Mexican Ufton Nervet” is a real thing.
Good thing we know what happens when they crash at top speed.
atleast twice....
Note to the Mexican train authorities:- it is possible to improve the frontal collision performance of the Class 43. The Australian XPTs used in New South Wales have additional horizontally mounted steel bars hidden under an additional front spoiler. Contacts in the UK may be able to provide the drawings.
I don't thing they'll read this from a youtube video
Great footage. Lovely to the original livery for those of us who remember it :) Luckily we still have 2 HST sets here in Cornwall but they are now just 4 coach sets with a power car at each end, sadly, soon to be withdrawn.
When are they being withdrawn because I love the HSTs and would like to film some before they go
@@wazowskimike9893 I think they are due to go from GWR around September. We only have 2 sets left now
I am happy that Mexico has bought the HST trains. As for the car crash, it's not the train company's fault but the impatient car driver on this occasion. The Mexicans will have the train fixed up-in no time. I would love to see some Class 60 locomotives go to Mexico in the future as well once EMD has patched them up 😊.
If thats how they are going to treat them, we want them back 😂 . How dare they dis our magnificent machines.
I’d they did, it wouldn’t be in its original BR yellow, blue and white would it? Besides these not much damage done.
In fact, the one who is at fault was the driver of the car, and it's not that big of a deal.
It's good seeing them working again instead of getting scrapped but come on please don't damage them
Thanks for the video and glad everyone was OK. Nice to see Mexico returning to passenger trains- passenger trains have been absent for so long there, our old HSTs will be the first trains many people will have travelled on. They are having to compete with modern ADO coaches etc and that is why they were attracted to our HSTs (the recentish Mk3 refits are still quite premium). Think they are going down quite well. It is still quite surreal seeing HSTs wobbling around Mexico.......
Surely Mexico has *some* passenger rail services? Most countries do.
@@roberthindle5146 Outside of Mexico City, there are very few passenger rail services at the moment. The main method of getting around the country for those who cant afford to fly is by coach. New projects are gradually being built but its not at all a longshot to say that many people will be travelling on a train for the first time.
@@roberthindle5146 Nope- they did have passenger services, but these all closed down, leaving freight only. Mexico City had a metro service. Lots of the kids riding on this new service have never seen a passenger train. The UK HSTs are the first passengers trains many have seen.
@@danielparrott8339 not all, but most of them dissapeared in the 2000 (most were mixed trains that survived until roads were paved). The only true long distance train that survived was "El Chepe" between Chiuahua and Los Mochis until the Interoceanico started.
I'm so glad the mexican government could se how good these trains are. They have years of life left in them.
It is interesting I rode these while visiting the Uk and now I’m riding them back home. Unfortunately I only took pics, no video back then.
Ah great stuff! How are you finding them over there? Guessing the speeds aren’t quite as quick!
@@RailwayTavern problem is our track’s quality. Besides that, they need a double track to run at full speed and this has not been done so a carful timing must be done with slower trains. Anyway, it is great to see them here and I’m planning a trip very soon
HST sadly missed on my journeys to Paddington. Those awful Hitachi trains just aren't upto it.
Bloody uncomfortable also.
Agreed. The modern downgrade is fully unwarranted and unloved.
OK boomer.
Glad to hear nobody was injured. The damage to the drivers side of the car looks scary as! 😨
Mind you, I thought 006/007 had *both* become part of the NRM/preservation collection, hence them being chosen to have those liveries applied? Awesome to hear though that there's a set in BR Blue/Cream extending the network to central America! 😁
If there's anything I'm hoping for: Once the Mexican rail system has finished with them that they'll be cascaded on to Amtrak. If any operator needed surplus HSTs, it's them... 🐌💨🚂🇺🇸😳
Here's the story of all four BR Blue celeb powercars:
43002: Reliveried to celebrate the 40th anniversary of HSTs and named Sir Kenneth Grange. Retired after the final day of GWR HSTs and donated to the NRM.
43206 and 43312: Reliveried alongside shortened carriage set EC56, did the four day farewell tour and buggered off to Ely. Coaches turned to hotels. Currently, the duo is on a boat to Nigeria and will run there until the end of Christendom.
43312: See 43206, consequently the final result having mismatched powercar set numbers (253003 on 43206 and 254029 on 43312, despite the OTHER powercar of 254029 (43313) still being intact).
43007: Sloppily reliveried into this crooked mess and yoinked to Mexico after a few runs.
This is bound to happen to any train in any country which allows Open (OC) type LCs in urban streets. HST is not Toby The Tramcar!
Hst coaches are much more comfortable than most new trains.
Excellent Video Love it
Nice to know there hsts in other countries
Wait.. a british train in mexico!? 🙀
yes, some HSTs have gone over there.
Yeah they are for a new railway being built there.
@@davidty2006 no, it is an existing one. The new railway use new trains built by Alstom.
@@davidty2006 Erm...actually. You're incorrect.
As much as I like seeing these things kept going, they're not really suited to use in the Americas. American locomotives would have been a far better choice as they can take heavy hits. British kit only really works in Britain where level crossing collisions are so rare they often make the news
Tell that the 87s in Bulgaria!
@@terrier_productions is Bulgaria in the Americas?
So we complain about importing trains, but we shouldn’t export trains in case they hit vehicles on crossings? (Of which there are plenty here which motorists regularly ignore) Make up your mind.
@@terrier_productionsAnd class 56’s. (One did hit something out there and had to have a new cab sent from the uk!)
@@22pcirish eh? We don't really import trains. A lot of them are built here, just by foreign owned companies squating on former BR works, and are designed abroad so we miss out on the knowledge gained. CAF's factory is in Wales. Hitachi at Newton Aycliffe. Siemens at Ashby-de-la-Zouch and soon to be another factory in Goole. Alstom in Derby.
The Class 43 specifically isn't suited to running in Mexico, because it's made of fibreglass and has no reinforced crash structures. There are plenty of British built locomotives that were exported, just they were modified to suit where they were exported to. Old and unmodified HSTs really aren't set up for running in Mexico
I’m seeing a couple ppl complain about how mexico aren’t taking care of the units. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t have get its original livery and put it in its own livery. Besides it’s not the Railways fault, the driver should have took more care.
Why are we exporting these? We must keep them.
We are not to worry about cars that comparatively are tincans , we are to worry about the leadbricks that are north american freight diesels
There was no point of sending them over if they are gonna keep getting smashed up like that they wont fix it they cant be asked so they will ebnd 9f smashing it
Same thing as in Florida.... "There are people here...the train came after...I'm not going to wait"..... Hopefully the ones who do this will off themselves. In less than 10 years NO MORE GATERUNNERS...
Not the drivers fault, it was the idiot on the crossing. Our much missed HST 😢
Interesting video
They better not have scrapped the thing they better be repairing it.
Was back up and running the day after I think!
@@RailwayTavern Yay!
What has happened to it now?
how does mexico have accidents with trains from 2 different countries WITHIN THE SAME MONTH?
There are a lot of near misses with freight trains daily. Crossing gates are non existant or not working because of theft.
They are gifted
porque somos indios
Mexican Railroads are irresponsibly wild, and I have “no words” to describe a predicament.😒
Wild is the people who drive cars
america could have had these 40 years ago, nice to see the mexicans quick on the take up, australia have had theres 30 years
the accident explains why america can't use them.
Over 40 years in Australia, they were in service January 1982.
@@michaelmclachlan1650 well thats over 40 years in service aint it? or is 2024 - 1982 = over 40
I always knew something bad was going to happen with these in a different country, why did we have to give them to the Mexicans, like no offence but why is that car on the Track when there is a literall HST coming
Not even there a year and it’s damaged already 😭 why can’t people get off the tracks
Why are car drivers in both South and North America so thick as to queue on a Railway Level crossing blocking the Railway line so ending up like this and not only wrecking their cat but aso a historic train, Trains always have presidence over road vehical on a Railway Level Crossing.
Bring it back over here were it belongs
and what’s it going to do here? probably be scrapped.
@@37trainsandstuff I'd happily have it in backyard 😀😀😀😀
@@Edlinghamjunction22 i’ve actually seen some ex-EMR mk3 buffets being used as cafes/coffee shops which are cool
What line in Mexico is this? If it's new, I don't understand why it would have been built with grade crossings. Ditto for the FL Brightline. Should be on elevated viaducts or underground, but never grade crossings. That said, who in their right mind parks a car on a railroad track - even briefly? I don't understand the "thought process" or rather lack of thought process behind such a move.
What's a British rail HST Mexico to begin with? Especially since they know nothing about how to repair it
What about SD70MAC in Mexico?
Is that a push pull train from British?
It is not a push pull train, it is known as a Multiple unit with a powere car at each end. A push pull train has a locomotive at one end and an unpowered car at the rear with a driving cab on it
HST : ❌
Ramming Device :✅
necesario mejorar ese paso del tren. un paso a desnivel para el tren seria mu necesario ahí.
Who put an intercity 125 on Mexico?
Why is a Brittisch Train in Mexico ? Trainfest ? For tests ?
We bought them
Angel Trains sold off all their stored HSTs to Mexico and Nigeria.
The only ones that won't be exported are the ScotRail fleet and stored 43305 + 43367.
Both 305 and 367 will be used to get ScotRail 43128 and 169 going again.
@@Danse_Macabre_125 how many to Nigeria?
Good video
UK and EU green regulations, we can’t have them so ship them to a country where it isn’t a problem.
They’ve only had two minutes and they’ve broken it lol
0:27 life could be a dream
I hope that once 43007 is fixed it gets out back to the same IC125 colours and it doesn't get reliveried into that mexican thing
Did the poor driverget hurt stuff the train
How dare they park the car snd try to reck our hst.
They should’ve used this train in the US.
Just images what it will look like if Mexico forgot to take the coupler off the train
2:25 That Is A BREL MK Stock Department From The Station
There Goes A BREL MK Cowl Unit (Push-Pull Service)
That Is A Push-Pull Cowl Unit Service
A Cowl Unit In British Railways’ Intercity Livery
A Cowl Unit In An Anglo-Celtic Railway’s Swallow Livery
The Carriages In A Cross Country Livery
It Is Not A Power Carriage, Its A Cowl Unit For A BREL MK Stock (Modern)
What?
WHY IS THERE A BRITISH RAILWAYS HST DOING IN MEXICO ! 💀
WHY JUST WHY?
Because it has been sold to Mexico
But Why
Not a great place to stop really.
Brits on Holiday lol
pues alch que bueno por el cochista
Rancid tram
Needs American horn
No it bloody does not
ew
The 2 tone is fine.
though they seem to only be using one of the tones....
Mexico shouldn’t be using old, hand-me-down trains from the USA and UK. Hardly safe if you ask me
Class 43 HST sets are among the safest trains in history! Driving a Honda SUV onto a crossing in front of an approaching train (of any kind) will not end well for the road vehicle.
Nonsense.
This is t a hand me down train, its a legend we should have kept running
Lol idiot remarks from clueless muppets