Bowlers have worked out how to get him out, and he doesn't have a fix for it. Ricky Pontings pull shot failed him at the end of his career but he couldn't stop playing it.
@@rsrik018the question is who is scoring?? The highest runs scorer is jaiswal and he hasn't touch 300 runs mark,earlier when Kohli used to be on his peak he used to score 500+ on overseas tour,,so it is overall batting failure not just 1 or 2 players
Ben Hilfenhaus, Rayan Harris, Peter Siddle and Scot Boland....4 underrated Australia Bowlers. If they where in India they may celebrated like top India players
It's quite laughable the amount of discussion around Pant ! The issue is he needs to come in with a fairly stable base of 100 or 150 atleast. He keeps coming in at 30, how can you expect him to play freely ! KL, Gill and most of all- Kohli need to be held accountable
Pant's role was something else and he is asked to do something else. Now, he is playing out of his skin to learn the new game and guess what he is doing it actually for longer periods.
Thank you for voicing my feelings Harsh. He’s coming at number 5 and forced to play like an opener or one down on a bad day. Can’t play natural game which has helped this team in the past (for which everyone was all praises). Gavaskar was way out of line. I understand the passion but hell, the man has still put in more than most people this series, especially these last 2 matches.
When rishabh make runs in previous inning one player always plays defensive cricket such as pujara. But now in top order if jaiswal wicket gone then team collapse till pant and after pant out remaining batting collaps 😢
This batting line up is so fragile that unfortunately Rishabh Pant has to play the situation 😢. In a normal batting line up where top order average is around 45 atleast it will be fire power.
@@SridharVenkatsubban He always plays like that for first 50-60 balls. And then he wanted to up the ante but the pitch didn't help. He couldn't find the hitting rhythm. So, I think it's the pitch not the line-up in this case.
Everyone is saying Pant was being extra cautious or conservative, but I don't seem to agree to it. Even the last time, he had a great run down under, take a look at his starts (on flatter decks) - 18 off 50 or so, etc in Gabba chase as well, he was before he stepped on. Also, he was hanging around last game, and played out a full session with patience, so I guess everyone is taking Rohit's words out of context.
Cricket needs its emotions, doesn’t it? A bit of banter on the field keeps the game lively as long as it stays within limits & doesn’t spill over into something unnecessary, like a fiery Kohli moment. It wasn’t India’s best day but matches between Ind & Aus always deliver drama. There’s never a dull moment when these two sides meet. Bumrah vs Konstas tomorrow in the morning will be an absolute cinema...
As an Aussie , I will be honest when we lost the toss , I thought we were fucked , but when Bumrah said they were gonna bat , it was like they were committing suicide. Green top and overcast.
So you mean you all can't express yourselves without using obscenities? There's little fear of God. Everything word that you speak you'll give an account for. Keep your speech pure!
Rishab pant can play aggressively if other batsman score a lot of runs. At the moment that is not happening. So he need to play carefully. One thing team can do is send him lower down after washi and ask him to play his natural game
Virat Kohli has only one scoring shot on the off-side, which is the cover drive or tapping for a single. There’s no square cut, no backfoot punch, no square drive-nothing else. So, apart from the cover drive or tapping for a single, what other options does he have to score? His backfoot play is also lacking, and his initial movement is always on the front foot. In SENA countries, whatever success he achieved was primarily due to his mental strength and reflex fitness in the past. But now, with his eyesight and reflexes declining, scoring runs has become difficult. Virat Kohli is an average player in Test cricket. Indian fans are not realistic, which is why they call him great. In Test cricket, players like Laxman, Ganguly, and even Azharuddin were better than him. Let’s not even compare him with Sachin, Sehwag, or Dravid."
Agree with you till the last part. For whatever reasons he achieved overseas success, his test career is better than all the names you mentioned except Rahul, Sachin, & Gavaskar in Indian batting history. His career isn't just linear, he had 2 poor years then 7-8 world class years, then 4-5 avg years, so a lot of fluctuation might make it seem like his contribution is poor. We can though say that his contributions are skewed in these 7-8 yrs whereas even Laxman, Saurav, Sehwag did well in 10-11 yrs. Their peaks weren't that big so contributions are spread across. Plus Virat's biggest thing is he played well in ASIA & all countries of SENA which except Rahul, Sachin, Sunil nobody has done. On pure numbers also only Sehwag, Azhar avg better than him but they played in batting friendly eras while Kohli has played in spin landmines in India for 4-5 yrs & fast bowling epidemic (as kimber calls it) 2020 onwards
@adarsh1294 First off, Virat Kohli is playing in an era where the bowlers and conditions are far easier compared to the 90s or even the early 2000s. The quality of bowling back then-be it fast or spin-was miles ahead of this post-T20 era. Comparing it with the 70s and 80s would be downright laughable. Without the glamour of social media propping him up, purely on cricketing merit, Virat Kohli wouldn’t even make it to the list of India’s greatest Test cricketers. Sure, Sourav, Laxman, or Azhar might have lower averages, but their impact in Test cricket was far greater. And speaking of Azharuddin’s time, India used to prepare those devilishly spin-friendly pitches that are practically extinct now. Playing spin required wrist dexterity, precise footwork, and the skill to meet the ball on the pitch-qualities this generation of Indian players seems woefully lacking. In ODI cricket, no doubt, he’s one of the greatest. But in Test cricket? At best, Kohli is just another average Joe.
Absolutely true..to be frank, even Chanderpaul and Younis Khan had wider range of shots than Chokli. Only lockdown kids idolize chokli due to IPL and white ball cricket heroics in flat tracks.
Agreed about the point of Kohli's offside game. Irfan Pathan in commentary pointed out this thing. Kohli don't play cut and punch often, specially in conditions where these shots are high scoring shots. KL, Gill are the two guys in this team who if set can score a lot on those shots, but since they don't bat long it's all about how long Jaiswal can bat bcoz he got great off side game
It will be a disservice to the Indian Test Cricket if only Rohit retires and Kohli keeps on playing. It's worrisome that Ravi Shashtri said after Kohli's dismissal on Day 5 of the last test that he will continue for another 3-4 years. That will be like fitoos. Whatever Kohli gave to the Indian Test Team in his first 8 years, he is gonna take it back in his last 8.
I think he needs to change his technique coz he is getting out again and again. In same way. Kohlis 2018 England series technique was good then he changed technique after 2021 phase when he got out to jameison etc... And getting LBW. But yeah he is 36 I hope he changes his technique Or takes retirement. Coz I saw same with tendulkar when he was getting out at 4t stump, 5th stump he changed stance by closing his leg like weakness towards left armer then he got out to left arm bowlers. But that makes sachin great he evolved again and again. Only cricketer whom I have never saw changing his stance is Rahul dravid even though his 2007 to 11 phase was not good but he didn't change his stance. But dont give the illustration of Rohit in comparison with Kohli.
Agreed, both should be out. If Rohit has gone down exponentially, being v poor in 7-8 matches; Kohli has gone down linear, avg/poor for 4 yrs+. And, I fully agree Kohli had far better test career but it doesn’t matter as both make their unique case to be out. Kohli should have been out with rahane, Pujara, they all did 3 yrs of 20-22 avg but Kohli got these 2 extra yrs cause his brand/testpeak/whiteballgame.
😂😂😂😂 Looks like vadapao fans 😢😢aren't done crying yet since the last 24 hrs when the news broke out that your fatman sharma is kicked out of the team 😂😂
Virat missed the first ball to get out but he managed to do it very soon. Experts will continue supporting him that he is qualified to be always in the playing 11 for the next two years.
Virat should give way to a young and promising player. We appreciate his former success but now it's time for him to go. "No man is an island, nothing last forever."
@@GiffordStlucethe thing is Indian test team is not as strong as people think. There are huge talks around retirements of Rohit and Virat but still there are no sure shot replacements for them. Rahul, Gill are not at all giving that confidence. Even the best batsman of this tour Jaiswal is a hit and a miss. Only sure shot in this team is Pant. Yes this tour is not good but still he is a match winner and he proved himself many times. Unfortunately still India haven't found those kind of players.
6 out of top 8 batsman were still soft dismissals. So, despite all the talk about change in intent, they eventually made the same mistakes as previous matches. Rahul Gill Kohli Pant Nitish Sundar
Gill was out in same way even in last AUS series after scoring 90 +, seen some flaw in playing off spinner same way many times. Jaiswal and Pant should play natural game with full freedom, holding of ends to be left to other batsmen
As issues with the form and technique of Rohit and Virat have made headlines, Gill has not exactly consolidated his place in the Test side and it is a bigger worry as he is perceived as the future. Jumping out to Lyon to the last over before lunch is not the best way to represent India.
WOW!! That last ball drama! One of my favorite cricket moments!!! The kid learnt his lesson. Guys, don't miss the first hour of the second day!!!! "Rasode mein Konsta"
Playing like a t20 in test works only when he is young not after he plays few more matches for australia... 😅 Especially when they start to loose the games..
Last some years… if Man of the match were to be awarded for main person contributing to loss, Kohli has earned more of those than MoMs for wins in first 7-9 years
26:55 well said about movie industry. Disputes and fragmentations in film industry gives more entertainment than the movies themselves and at free of cost.
Without getting too technical, most of the batsmen have this in their muscle memory to try and reach out to every ball to score runs. Clearly T20 influence. Kohli can change his stance or make other changes but eventually will fall into this offside trap. May still get some runs where there is absolutely nothing in it for the bowlers. Smart younger players like Jaiswal can make those finer adjustments but most others will find it difficult when the conditions favor bowlers
Ryan Ten Doeschate is the Indian batting coach. I doubt he will even an utter a word towards Kholi on his batting mistakes. Kholi on the other side with an ego thinks he has reached the heights were he can correct things by himself. Else by now he would have worked on his temperment and shot selection listening to seniors Gavaskar, Shastri or GG. Why do we need an experience player like Kholi in 11, when he is not ready to use his experiences in the game. Instead groom some youngster he will be ready for the next tour.
He came as a big surprise with GG. Don't think he has the credentials to be a coach of the India batting team. He should have been coaching the Netherlands. GG came into the picture just because of his political connection with BJP
India (including Pant) need to find the right balance between defence and measured attack. Because honestly the top order needs to bat time to make their life easier later and also allow the middle to lower order batters then to score more freely.
@@aamejshreyansh5868 My thoughts exactly the same. In both ODIs and Tests, our no.5-6 must be interchangeable. If platform is set, send the aggressive batter ahead, Pant in tests. Reddy must be our go to no.5 and Pant at 6 in normal situation
But the “ rested” comments only comes with batsmen being dropped. With regards to bowlers, they always say “ dropped”. How many times had Aswin been dropped. Unless you’re irreplaceable like Bumrah , bowlers get dropped all the time
Kohli has max 3-4 tests. If Rohit has gone down exponentially, being v poor in 7-8 matches; Kohli has gone down linear, avg/poor for 4 yrs+. And, I fully agree that Kohli has a far better test career but it doesn’t matter as both make their unique case to be out. Kohli should have been out with rahane, Pujara, they all did 3 yrs of 20-22 avg but Kohli got these 2 extra yrs cause of his brand/testpeak/whiteballgame. But continuing after 5 yrs of
Let's accept, Kohli was a great test batter in last decade. Kohli in this decade, is just another average test batter who doesn't deserve to play without getting back his form from domestic cricket
@@malamsingh1944 absolutely. The only issue is once virat is dropped from tests, he already has retired from t20s, ODIs don't happen anymore. So, I don't see how brand Kohli & all the other stuff would go on post champions league & IPL. And generally this stature of player don't go in oblivion. Oblivion for me is getting dropped, trying Ranji but never doing enough to comeback. With all the other stuff that he brings to cricket, he can't go like that. So, BCCI, kohli has to come up with a PLAN.
Rohit is mostly avoiding all that by getting "rested" & will farewell all international cricket post champions league. That would be the best possible arrangement for everyone from BCCI to Rohit. Shall kohli take something similar too?
Australia has deployed Konstas just to offset Bumrah and he is doing his job 100%.. he is making Bumrah anxious and less patient. Even he gets out cheaply now its job done for him.. they have Smith Labu and Head and now webster to do the grinding hitting..india should tuck their talks in their backs and do the bowling well.. mainly they should support Bumrah from other end
It doesnt matter who is our head coach,our batting order needs a major overhaul.Gill has been averaging around 20 in his last 20 overseas innings.Kohli is out of form for over 4 years.Rohit forgot how to bat since last 2 series.Rahul is not consistent enough.Jaiswal is still learning.Pant didnt play this series as expected.And everyone(mostly rohit,kohli fans) blame GG for the players inabaility to score.Even for 0-3 loss against nz,srilankan odi series ,we all know our indian batters cannot play spin well but still blamed it on GG.
Usman Khwaja, kohli, rohit , labuchagne these 4 top order really struggled in this bgt series, aus pitch this time not conjusive for batting, previous tour was a good pitch for batting but bouncy too but this time all pitches I saw ball were seaming n bouncing not a typical aus pitch where batsman can score runs but not this time, this ssc wkt looking like a greeny wkt n a dangerous bounce too that we saw pant hit by bowl 3 times, but rishab batted really well today❤
@9:10 that can happen when there is someone who is anchoring. See it is finally team game. If pant goes free flow there needs someone to hedge that risk. Hedge is very important in any contest
185 is below par, despite the spicy pitch. Look at the way Rahul, Virat, Pant, Washy, Nitish got out, which cannot be blamed to the spicy pitch. Aus bowled smart & disciplined throughout the day. I feel Bumrah and team also can bowl with discipline & smart, to restrict Aus to a low total. The match is even Steven at this stage.
Pant was successful because Shastri had backed him up, given him the encouragement to play his natural game with zero consequences. GG needs to be like that, and set him free.
Genuine question - if a batsman kept getting out in exactly same way 6 out of 7 times in test cricket would you keep that person in the team? Once a legend always a legend? Legend before team? I am not a fan or hater but based on pure logic, it doesn't seem like a good thing in the long run if we say history matters more than future.
Well even Gambhir pointed out that team comes first, not the individual. He said every player needs to know what is expected in the situation, be it aggressive batting or be disciplined. So the team management thinks differently to what you think about Pant playing his natural game all the time. We know what Sunny G also thinks. It is surprising to say the least to keep backing stupid shots and saying that, when it comes off Pant can win test matches. Well, he can win more tests if he uses his brain too, not just play his natural game.
Shoulder charge, not leaving the field when given out, arguing with the umpires, send offs, sending off the non striker. Indians cricket team behaviour has been the worst I seen. Any comment on this Harsha? DK?
VVS Laxman or Anil Kumble should get an invite from BCCI to take up the role of Head Coach. Gambhir deserves a golden handshake from BCCI after this test match irrespective of the results.
@@Refreshhhh18 yep. Has been a series of what ifs. What if Pant played out a few more balls. What if Rahul didn't have a soft dismissal Maybe that docking of points for Australia would have been beneficial to us
Real COTE stuff from India at the end of the day there. Rolled for 180 after winning the toss and giving a send off to the bloke who didn't get out because he opened his mouth. Entitlement of that team is 2nd to none
mitchell starc to Konstas : Bumrah is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you know very little about. mitchell starc to Konstas : It's not what you did, son, that angers me so. It's who you did it to.
Joel Wilson took the decision which is correct only. Thats clear out But as u said the snicko technology is boring, when Cummins took the review, i saw the scare on the face of Washington
Something that commentators didn’t notice today : For Washington, when the snicko showed a slight twitch, a bit after the ball passed the glove, the Aussie players started celebrating, before the umpire had decided. Isn’t that wrong? In second test, When Siraj ran to the fielders celebrating, before the umpire decided - it was considered as a big crime, whereas today when Aussies players celebrated early based on unclear snicko - it’s perfectly fine. Cheaters. Due to the celebration the third umpire was again and again checking what is he missing, though he first thought there was no clear sound.
M a big fan of DK and Harsha. I am a Surgical Oncologist and whenever I get time after my surgeries, just love to hear Harsha and DK at Cricbuzz Chatter. Love you guys
You don't need to mention that you're a surgical oncologist in a UA-cam comment. I don't know why doctors feel the need to mention that they are doctors, at every non-opportunity. It does not make you any better than an optometrist, geologist, archaeologist, gardener, brick layer, or a plumber. Too much pride and arrogance of your profession, right here.
Honestly I felt Virat was going to get out . If you look at the balls he was playing on the last few deliveries before getting out , he was leaving a lot less in that channel
9:28 Rishabh Pant needs to bat according to his batting number. It means that the team has given him the bigger responsibility. If he is batting on 6 or 7, but now the team has given him bigger responsibility (to bat at 5). So he needs to bat in a way that the opposition team need to earn his wicket. He should not be gifting his wicket.
That’s why it is called “Test” cricket. It is a test of “Skills” as well as “Temperament”. None has doubt over the skills of our players, but too much of nonsense through print, tv, podcasts and social media have-“shaken” the trust on one’s own ability . We witnessed it , consider how Gill, Kohli and Pant were out.
We missed two best captains India never had Ravi Shastri (One test though) and DK. Time we pick a coach who is non temperamental ... DK, WV Raman, Lalchand Rajput, VVS etc...
Dinesh bhai, a coach should be like you. Cool minded, happy person, laughter, sarcastic, intelligent. Not grumpy like gautam gambhir. The attitude does have impact on teams. All the best as RCB coach.
Ya totally but you missed an important point, that the coach should atleast know how to play the game itself. While world knows dinesh kartik was a below average player on the other hand gambhir is a cricketing legend. Only God knows how dinesh karthik survived for so long in indian cricket. Players way better than him have had a smaller career.
@AmiyaFrappee great is a big word to use... Greats are player like sehwag gambhir yuvraj etc etc, kartiks stats and performance prove that be was a mediocre player.
Harsha gaaru, Even in Jaiswal's case at MCG the 3rd umpire didn't provide any conclusive evidence to over-turn the on-field umpires decision. He just said, I see deviation but that's not a conclusive proof. Washi's dismissal was ridiculous. That's a clear Not Out.
I have been repeatedly drumming both Rohit and Virat are worn-out. Still the india think tank take foolish decision by retaining Virat who is by and large playing for his selfish records.. At last same old story 😂
At the end of the day it's a game and we need to be fearless and play with spirit. We can't have everyone in the team playing like robots, doesn't mean everything should be random either, we need to find some sort of balance - right now it seems like we are over compensating. Would see India lose playing a nice spirited game rather than play like a team which isn't looking to win.
Rohit is not there so now whom are they going to blame for the batting debacle that happened today. Fact of the matter is the problem is not with Rohit, Kohli and others, it’s with this clown we have as a coach who was a below average player and has no serious coaching credentials at the international level along with his two assistant side kick coaches. GG has ruined the hardwork of Ravi Shasri, Rahul Dravid and the senior players in a matter of months.
Finally someone is saying truth. GG’s approach maybe good for T20, but not for ODI or Test. And he thinks shunning senior players will make him something like Dhoni, then he is in wonderlands.
@@shreyashn1809 Rankings don’t always tell you the truth, he had a poor record outside of the sun continent and apart from his limited cricketing pedigree (and obviously no comparison at all to the genius Rahul Dravid), he is not a people person at all. The same team were doing wonders before his tenure a few months ago. I have nothing personal against GG but he is a total misfit as the Indian coach
Few things to fact check and correct DK Anna here. Even during Dravid era team news were leaked - T20 World Cup where it was leaked that Hardik and DK were angry on top order for playing slow and putting pressure on lower order. Shastri era - asked Pujara to play quick or be dropped. Greg Chappell era - Vikrant Gupta has on record said that Ganguly used to call him to talk and share what’s going on within in the team and what disputes are going on. So all the stories during Chappell era were true to Ganguly lied.
Kohli and 5th stump ball is better love story than Twilight 😆😆
Kohli 2nd wife 😂
gharwali & Pitchwali
Twilight is not a great love story anyway😂😂
Not better love story it's toxic story 😂
No it is Kohli hate story with cut shot. None of the analyst talk about why he cant play that.
Here comes the PR team of VK! Its stupid to still defend him saying its a technical flaw blah blah! He’s completely lost it!
As a vk fan, i agree this is gettin out of hand
"Technical flaw" is the polite way to say "he doesn't have it anymore"
Bowlers have worked out how to get him out, and he doesn't have a fix for it. Ricky Pontings pull shot failed him at the end of his career but he couldn't stop playing it.
@@rsrik018the question is who is scoring?? The highest runs scorer is jaiswal and he hasn't touch 300 runs mark,earlier when Kohli used to be on his peak he used to score 500+ on overseas tour,,so it is overall batting failure not just 1 or 2 players
He is washed let's accept it
Indian cricket minus Bumrah:
STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!
No, it's Stupid! STUpid! STUPID!!
Its not Indian Cricket its current Indian Test Cricket is Stupid ! Stupid ! Stupid.
Ben Hilfenhaus, Rayan Harris, Peter Siddle and Scot Boland....4 underrated Australia Bowlers. If they where in India they may celebrated like top India players
Jason Gillespie
And meets meetsel stark
+ james pattinson
Hilfenhaus & Siddle were mediocre at best. Hardly elite.
They might not have made their international debut, they play well only in swinging conditions. Harris is an exception.
It's quite laughable the amount of discussion around Pant ! The issue is he needs to come in with a fairly stable base of 100 or 150 atleast. He keeps coming in at 30, how can you expect him to play freely ! KL, Gill and most of all- Kohli need to be held accountable
Look at other players like Kohli,rohith,jadeja ,Jaiswal etc.They are also struggling.Pitch is not easy . Atleast Pant is applying himself.
Pant's role was something else and he is asked to do something else. Now, he is playing out of his skin to learn the new game and guess what he is doing it actually for longer periods.
Thank you for voicing my feelings Harsh. He’s coming at number 5 and forced to play like an opener or one down on a bad day. Can’t play natural game which has helped this team in the past (for which everyone was all praises). Gavaskar was way out of line. I understand the passion but hell, the man has still put in more than most people this series, especially these last 2 matches.
Absolutely!!! Pant should be like gilchrist . No responsibility just feel good cricket . He should be coming at 5 or 6 . Top order needs to be redone
For Rishabh Pant to play freely the top order has to contribute.. which they have sadly failed to do..
When rishabh make runs in previous inning one player always plays defensive cricket such as pujara. But now in top order if jaiswal wicket gone then team collapse till pant and after pant out remaining batting collaps 😢
This batting line up is so fragile that unfortunately Rishabh Pant has to play the situation 😢. In a normal batting line up where top order average is around 45 atleast it will be fire power.
@@SridharVenkatsubban He always plays like that for first 50-60 balls.
And then he wanted to up the ante but the pitch didn't help. He couldn't find the hitting rhythm.
So, I think it's the pitch not the line-up in this case.
Exactly. What the hell Indian batters were? Looked they want to draw the match for first day
Pant's test career batting average is actually higher than Rohit Sharma, KL Rahul and Gill.
@bharatmatakijay3449 and 90% of his runs came in difficult pitches and situations
DK is biased towards Kohli due to RCB connection
He has to go back and work together 😂😂
Kholi must have also rested himself like Rohit to show the grace
Everyone is saying Pant was being extra cautious or conservative, but I don't seem to agree to it. Even the last time, he had a great run down under, take a look at his starts (on flatter decks) - 18 off 50 or so, etc in Gabba chase as well, he was before he stepped on.
Also, he was hanging around last game, and played out a full session with patience, so I guess everyone is taking Rohit's words out of context.
Rohit is scapegoat
Pant is an easy target to deflect the topic from VK’s pathetic batting.
Cricket needs its emotions, doesn’t it? A bit of banter on the field keeps the game lively as long as it stays within limits & doesn’t spill over into something unnecessary, like a fiery Kohli moment. It wasn’t India’s best day but matches between Ind & Aus always deliver drama. There’s never a dull moment when these two sides meet. Bumrah vs Konstas tomorrow in the morning will be an absolute cinema...
Just one wicket of bumra..
Fans feel like India dominates the entire day 😅
Not at all. But in the worst test cricket what will fans do to enjoy ? Will they be miserable each day every day?
No, it was more of a consolation win for us that's why we enjoyed, please don't blame us for enjoying something we should enjoy!!
Ekbaar tho allowed he yaar
No worries.... Bumrah will also get konstas tomorrow in the first 2ovrs... And that will be the best celebration 😂🎉
atleast you won't hear this from Bumrah!!😂 Bakwas baatein to band hogi pitch mai..@@SandeepKumar-gj9lr
As an Aussie , I will be honest when we lost the toss , I thought we were fucked , but when Bumrah said they were gonna bat , it was like they were committing suicide. Green top and overcast.
Yep, when we had the same conditions in Bengaluru against New Zealand last year, we got fucked opting to bat 1st
Lessons not learnt
So you mean you all can't express yourselves without using obscenities? There's little fear of God. Everything word that you speak you'll give an account for. Keep your speech pure!
@@GiffordStlucegods a fiction so get over it
You can still commit suicide on day 2 if aussies give away wickets to Bumrah 😂
You can still commit suicide on day 2 if aussies give away wickets to Bumrah 😂
Rishab pant can play aggressively if other batsman score a lot of runs. At the moment that is not happening. So he need to play carefully. One thing team can do is send him lower down after washi and ask him to play his natural game
Virat Kohli has only one scoring shot on the off-side, which is the cover drive or tapping for a single. There’s no square cut, no backfoot punch, no square drive-nothing else. So, apart from the cover drive or tapping for a single, what other options does he have to score? His backfoot play is also lacking, and his initial movement is always on the front foot. In SENA countries, whatever success he achieved was primarily due to his mental strength and reflex fitness in the past. But now, with his eyesight and reflexes declining, scoring runs has become difficult. Virat Kohli is an average player in Test cricket. Indian fans are not realistic, which is why they call him great. In Test cricket, players like Laxman, Ganguly, and even Azharuddin were better than him. Let’s not even compare him with Sachin, Sehwag, or Dravid."
bhai you need to watch more cricket if you think 30 test centuries is avg🤣
Agree with you till the last part. For whatever reasons he achieved overseas success, his test career is better than all the names you mentioned except Rahul, Sachin, & Gavaskar in Indian batting history.
His career isn't just linear, he had 2 poor years then 7-8 world class years, then 4-5 avg years, so a lot of fluctuation might make it seem like his contribution is poor.
We can though say that his contributions are skewed in these 7-8 yrs whereas even Laxman, Saurav, Sehwag did well in 10-11 yrs. Their peaks weren't that big so contributions are spread across.
Plus Virat's biggest thing is he played well in ASIA & all countries of SENA which except Rahul, Sachin, Sunil nobody has done.
On pure numbers also only Sehwag, Azhar avg better than him but they played in batting friendly eras while Kohli has played in spin landmines in India for 4-5 yrs & fast bowling epidemic (as kimber calls it) 2020 onwards
@adarsh1294 First off, Virat Kohli is playing in an era where the bowlers and conditions are far easier compared to the 90s or even the early 2000s. The quality of bowling back then-be it fast or spin-was miles ahead of this post-T20 era. Comparing it with the 70s and 80s would be downright laughable. Without the glamour of social media propping him up, purely on cricketing merit, Virat Kohli wouldn’t even make it to the list of India’s greatest Test cricketers. Sure, Sourav, Laxman, or Azhar might have lower averages, but their impact in Test cricket was far greater. And speaking of Azharuddin’s time, India used to prepare those devilishly spin-friendly pitches that are practically extinct now. Playing spin required wrist dexterity, precise footwork, and the skill to meet the ball on the pitch-qualities this generation of Indian players seems woefully lacking.
In ODI cricket, no doubt, he’s one of the greatest. But in Test cricket? At best, Kohli is just another average Joe.
Absolutely true..to be frank, even Chanderpaul and Younis Khan had wider range of shots than Chokli. Only lockdown kids idolize chokli due to IPL and white ball cricket heroics in flat tracks.
Agreed about the point of Kohli's offside game.
Irfan Pathan in commentary pointed out this thing. Kohli don't play cut and punch often, specially in conditions where these shots are high scoring shots.
KL, Gill are the two guys in this team who if set can score a lot on those shots, but since they don't bat long it's all about how long Jaiswal can bat bcoz he got great off side game
I said 1 month back that "150 is the new 350 for Indian batsmen".
It will be a disservice to the Indian Test Cricket if only Rohit retires and Kohli keeps on playing. It's worrisome that Ravi Shashtri said after Kohli's dismissal on Day 5 of the last test that he will continue for another 3-4 years. That will be like fitoos. Whatever Kohli gave to the Indian Test Team in his first 8 years, he is gonna take it back in his last 8.
I think he needs to change his technique coz he is getting out again and again. In same way. Kohlis 2018 England series technique was good then he changed technique after 2021 phase when he got out to jameison etc... And getting LBW. But yeah he is 36 I hope he changes his technique Or takes retirement. Coz I saw same with tendulkar when he was getting out at 4t stump, 5th stump he changed stance by closing his leg like weakness towards left armer then he got out to left arm bowlers. But that makes sachin great he evolved again and again. Only cricketer whom I have never saw changing his stance is Rahul dravid even though his 2007 to 11 phase was not good but he didn't change his stance. But dont give the illustration of Rohit in comparison with Kohli.
Agreed, both should be out.
If Rohit has gone down exponentially, being v poor in 7-8 matches; Kohli has gone down linear, avg/poor for 4 yrs+. And, I fully agree Kohli had far better test career but it doesn’t matter as both make their unique case to be out.
Kohli should have been out with rahane, Pujara, they all did 3 yrs of 20-22 avg but Kohli got these 2 extra yrs cause his brand/testpeak/whiteballgame.
Must depend only on the runs he gets
From what's observed... Kohli needs to only work on two things... Spin and 5th stump line....But Rohit....looks too much out of confidence
😂😂😂😂
Looks like vadapao fans 😢😢aren't done crying yet since the last 24 hrs when the news broke out that your fatman sharma is kicked out of the team 😂😂
The last time captain sitting out out of playing 11, was Ganguly against Aus in India.. if i remember right it was in Nagpur
Virat missed the first ball to get out but he managed to do it very soon. Experts will continue supporting him that he is qualified to be always in the playing 11 for the next two years.
Virat should give way to a young and promising player. We appreciate his former success but now it's time for him to go. "No man is an island, nothing last forever."
@@GiffordStlucewhich are promise youngsters?? Klr,gill pant?? Both are averaging in mid 30s
@@GiffordStlucethe thing is Indian test team is not as strong as people think.
There are huge talks around retirements of Rohit and Virat but still there are no sure shot replacements for them.
Rahul, Gill are not at all giving that confidence.
Even the best batsman of this tour Jaiswal is a hit and a miss.
Only sure shot in this team is Pant. Yes this tour is not good but still he is a match winner and he proved himself many times. Unfortunately still India haven't found those kind of players.
6 out of top 8 batsman were still soft dismissals. So, despite all the talk about change in intent, they eventually made the same mistakes as previous matches.
Rahul
Gill
Kohli
Pant
Nitish
Sundar
Everybody doesn't get out on unplayable balls in current times
Sundar was not out. He went aggressive only becoz of playing with bowlers
Gill was out in same way even in last AUS series after scoring 90 +, seen some flaw in playing off spinner same way many times. Jaiswal and Pant should play natural game with full freedom, holding of ends to be left to other batsmen
As issues with the form and technique of Rohit and Virat have made headlines, Gill has not exactly consolidated his place in the Test side and it is a bigger worry as he is perceived as the future. Jumping out to Lyon to the last over before lunch is not the best way to represent India.
WOW!! That last ball drama! One of my favorite cricket moments!!! The kid learnt his lesson. Guys, don't miss the first hour of the second day!!!! "Rasode mein Konsta"
What lesson? He’s not out at stumps?
Lol.... that kid already become a headache for so called bumrah
Playing like a t20 in test works only when he is young not after he plays few more matches for australia... 😅
Especially when they start to loose the games..
@virathKohli766 please dont project the frustrations of your failed life by mocking Bumrah.
Not for long 😂@@iamhugeandsquare
Irks me when Harsha gets this "Indian accent" all of a sudden. Then goes back to his broadcasting English.
he is trying to be cute
For Pant to be a free-spirited player, the top order has to score so that he gets out to the middle when its 150/3 not 30/3 !!
Last some years… if Man of the match were to be awarded for main person contributing to loss, Kohli has earned more of those than MoMs for wins in first 7-9 years
30:43 : Harsha telling Rohit's friend leaking stuff from within Dressing room is a problem and Dk hardly reacts 😂
26:55 well said about movie industry. Disputes and fragmentations in film industry gives more entertainment than the movies themselves and at free of cost.
It was the right decision to bat first. It will also seam tomorrow and batting last on it will be hard when it spins.
True… and batting 3rd will be little easy as well
Tomorrow is sunny day australia 293-5
It won't spin. Day 5 - there's a possibility of rain. And mostly overcast in rest of the days!!
@@Trainmanager431Only if Bumrah is not bowling. Bumrah will make it 220 All-Out.
Without getting too technical, most of the batsmen have this in their muscle memory to try and reach out to every ball to score runs. Clearly T20 influence. Kohli can change his stance or make other changes but eventually will fall into this offside trap. May still get some runs where there is absolutely nothing in it for the bowlers. Smart younger players like Jaiswal can make those finer adjustments but most others will find it difficult when the conditions favor bowlers
what is kohli and co?
'Stupid Stupid Stupid'
This time for
Virat and Subhman also OG Pant
Ryan Ten Doeschate is the Indian batting coach. I doubt he will even an utter a word towards Kholi on his batting mistakes. Kholi on the other side with an ego thinks he has reached the heights were he can correct things by himself. Else by now he would have worked on his temperment and shot selection listening to seniors Gavaskar, Shastri or GG. Why do we need an experience player like Kholi in 11, when he is not ready to use his experiences in the game. Instead groom some youngster he will be ready for the next tour.
He came as a big surprise with GG. Don't think he has the credentials to be a coach of the India batting team. He should have been coaching the Netherlands. GG came into the picture just because of his political connection with BJP
He can teach him some batting
@@vaibhavchoudhary4895stop blaming coaches when seniors can't even have a basic sense
India (including Pant) need to find the right balance between defence and measured attack. Because honestly the top order needs to bat time to make their life easier later and also allow the middle to lower order batters then to score more freely.
But in all seriousness, it broke my heart to see how Rishabh Pant gave in to all the social media chatter.
But him playing this way is better too, he can make big runs without taking much risks
Pressure is too much on him. His role was something else, but due to poor cricket from top 4, he has to adjust a lot
@malamsingh1944 Why not make him bat at 6 when Ball gets old and he scores quick 50s, Reddy can come in above to make new ball old
@@aamejshreyansh5868 My thoughts exactly the same. In both ODIs and Tests, our no.5-6 must be interchangeable.
If platform is set, send the aggressive batter ahead, Pant in tests. Reddy must be our go to no.5 and Pant at 6 in normal situation
@@malamsingh1944 Now that this is the last test we can only try this Next Year June Against England Tests, need to understand who can do what better
Looking back, Ashwin did the correct thing by quitting at the right time.
Rohit should have been treated better.
Underrated comment but chokli will keep playing till the time stupid so called experts like shastri,bangar and manjrekar say enough is enough.
Bumrah batted first because he has no trust in batting line up to win match playing 4th innings. He knows he controls the 4th innings
Absolutely
Best. Comment
What if---....there isn't a 4th innings?
But the “ rested” comments only comes with batsmen being dropped. With regards to bowlers, they always say “ dropped”. How many times had Aswin been dropped. Unless you’re irreplaceable like Bumrah , bowlers get dropped all the time
Kohli has max 3-4 tests. If Rohit has gone down exponentially, being v poor in 7-8 matches; Kohli has gone down linear, avg/poor for 4 yrs+. And, I fully agree that Kohli has a far better test career but it doesn’t matter as both make their unique case to be out.
Kohli should have been out with rahane, Pujara, they all did 3 yrs of 20-22 avg but Kohli got these 2 extra yrs cause of his brand/testpeak/whiteballgame.
But continuing after 5 yrs of
Let's accept, Kohli was a great test batter in last decade.
Kohli in this decade, is just another average test batter who doesn't deserve to play without getting back his form from domestic cricket
@@malamsingh1944 absolutely. The only issue is once virat is dropped from tests, he already has retired from t20s, ODIs don't happen anymore.
So, I don't see how brand Kohli & all the other stuff would go on post champions league & IPL.
And generally this stature of player don't go in oblivion. Oblivion for me is getting dropped, trying Ranji but never doing enough to comeback.
With all the other stuff that he brings to cricket, he can't go like that. So, BCCI, kohli has to come up with a PLAN.
Rohit is mostly avoiding all that by getting "rested" & will farewell all international cricket post champions league.
That would be the best possible arrangement for everyone from BCCI to Rohit.
Shall kohli take something similar too?
Rahane & Pujara❤️
The confidence has been beaten out of this team. The blame squarely lies at the feet of the coaching staff. Its the only thing that has changed
Shall I recall SENA test performance under previous coach?
@@shreyashn1809Please recall home test match performances too, under the prev coaching staff.
best poin on pant, i feel many time DK and pdogg ideas/points matches...atleast either of them can become some sort of advisory position
Ur crt Harsha sir… I saw DK in Chennai at Accord Metropolitan 😂
Australia has deployed Konstas just to offset Bumrah and he is doing his job 100%.. he is making Bumrah anxious and less patient. Even he gets out cheaply now its job done for him.. they have Smith Labu and Head and now webster to do the grinding hitting..india should tuck their talks in their backs and do the bowling well.. mainly they should support Bumrah from other end
Harsha Bhogle asks questions, and then offers his own long analysis, leaving little for Karthik to say! Old habits die hard.
That's so true, it happened in 2021 22 series as well when India Won at Gabba, and the one before that as well
It doesnt matter who is our head coach,our batting order needs a major overhaul.Gill has been averaging around 20 in his last 20 overseas innings.Kohli is out of form for over 4 years.Rohit forgot how to bat since last 2 series.Rahul is not consistent enough.Jaiswal is still learning.Pant didnt play this series as expected.And everyone(mostly rohit,kohli fans) blame GG for the players inabaility to score.Even for 0-3 loss against nz,srilankan odi series ,we all know our indian batters cannot play spin well but still blamed it on GG.
When will virat opt out?
Usman Khwaja, kohli, rohit , labuchagne these 4 top order really struggled in this bgt series, aus pitch this time not conjusive for batting, previous tour was a good pitch for batting but bouncy too but this time all pitches I saw ball were seaming n bouncing not a typical aus pitch where batsman can score runs but not this time, this ssc wkt looking like a greeny wkt n a dangerous bounce too that we saw pant hit by bowl 3 times, but rishab batted really well today❤
Very well put Harsha and DK about fragmented dressing room !! Spot on !!
The only way to avoid leaks from dressing room OR practice sessions is to ban press from these areas.
If Edging is a format, Kholi would be GOAT
# Kohli and Co?? Wtf Kohli is neither the captain not the best batsmen in the side stop licking boots HB and DK.
Kohli has a big PR team including harsha....
Bumrah made me wake up early tomorrow morning.😅
@9:10 that can happen when there is someone who is anchoring. See it is finally team game. If pant goes free flow there needs someone to hedge that risk. Hedge is very important in any contest
185 is below par, despite the spicy pitch. Look at the way Rahul, Virat, Pant, Washy, Nitish got out, which cannot be blamed to the spicy pitch. Aus bowled smart & disciplined throughout the day. I feel Bumrah and team also can bowl with discipline & smart, to restrict Aus to a low total. The match is even Steven at this stage.
Pant was successful because Shastri had backed him up, given him the encouragement to play his natural game with zero consequences. GG needs to be like that, and set him free.
Just don't say shastri.rahul dravid as well backed him.
As a gully player if I were given enough chances like Pant I will perform too.
Try Samson like Pant He will break all the records of cricket.
Genuine question - if a batsman kept getting out in exactly same way 6 out of 7 times in test cricket would you keep that person in the team? Once a legend always a legend? Legend before team? I am not a fan or hater but based on pure logic, it doesn't seem like a good thing in the long run if we say history matters more than future.
Cricket industry.....n thats d biggest problem..v have made cricket a industry from a sport..... let's make it a sport once again
Well even Gambhir pointed out that team comes first, not the individual. He said every player needs to know what is expected in the situation, be it aggressive batting or be disciplined. So the team management thinks differently to what you think about Pant playing his natural game all the time. We know what Sunny G also thinks. It is surprising to say the least to keep backing stupid shots and saying that, when it comes off Pant can win test matches. Well, he can win more tests if he uses his brain too, not just play his natural game.
Baggage is from ind vs nz.. thats why this is a game of momentum
Shoulder charge, not leaving the field when given out, arguing with the umpires, send offs, sending off the non striker. Indians cricket team behaviour has been the worst I seen. Any comment on this Harsha? DK?
Harsha can't say anything against Virat -bc- Kohli. He will lose his job.
So Australians are buddhist monks
VVS Laxman or Anil Kumble should get an invite from BCCI to take up the role of Head Coach. Gambhir deserves a golden handshake from BCCI after this test match irrespective of the results.
Shut up
Veg chicken eater, ultrawoke, tattoo artist businessman loli doesn't like kumble
😂😂😂 u kidding right?
As long as VK is there, Kumble won't even come anywhere near him let alone coaching job
why blame every time Rishabh , he is not able to play natural game because top order not performing
Have they tried selecting batters from the support staff? Its like we'll have the same outcome if 10 random people and Bumrah played.
Why is no one talking about the fact that there were only 75 overs bowled today without any rain interruption?
Maybe that's a plus for struggling India.
Technically 78* but still Aussies were slow. No overrate issue though as min 80 overs is required for any chance.
@@Refreshhhh18 yep. Has been a series of what ifs.
What if Pant played out a few more balls. What if Rahul didn't have a soft dismissal
Maybe that docking of points for Australia would have been beneficial to us
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Real COTE stuff from India at the end of the day there. Rolled for 180 after winning the toss and giving a send off to the bloke who didn't get out because he opened his mouth. Entitlement of that team is 2nd to none
mitchell starc to Konstas : Bumrah is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you know very little about.
mitchell starc to Konstas : It's not what you did, son, that angers me so. It's who you did it to.
Do we really need such a long title animation? Every time I see it, I end up fast-forwarding through it.
Legend has it that virat has started to train for the 2nd innings.
Joel Wilson took the decision which is correct only. Thats clear out
But as u said the snicko technology is boring, when Cummins took the review, i saw the scare on the face of Washington
Something that commentators didn’t notice today : For Washington, when the snicko showed a slight twitch, a bit after the ball passed the glove, the Aussie players started celebrating, before the umpire had decided. Isn’t that wrong?
In second test, When Siraj ran to the fielders celebrating, before the umpire decided - it was considered as a big crime, whereas today when Aussies players celebrated early based on unclear snicko - it’s perfectly fine. Cheaters.
Due to the celebration the third umpire was again and again checking what is he missing, though he first thought there was no clear sound.
Your an fruit loop if you think the 3rd umpire is looking at the reaction on on field players, just more what aboutery garbage chat from you sook
Virat Kohli should be nicknamed “The Nicking Machine” after this series 😂😂😂
Yeah just like your Rohit Sharma is called the"Fatman sharma " these days , who has been kicked out 🍑🦵 of the team 😆🥱🥱😌
It's already been given by a radio commentator
Same question by Harsha mama "DK are you in Chennai?"
M a big fan of DK and Harsha.
I am a Surgical Oncologist and whenever I get time after my surgeries, just love to hear Harsha and DK at Cricbuzz Chatter. Love you guys
You don't need to mention that you're a surgical oncologist in a UA-cam comment. I don't know why doctors feel the need to mention that they are doctors, at every non-opportunity. It does not make you any better than an optometrist, geologist, archaeologist, gardener, brick layer, or a plumber. Too much pride and arrogance of your profession, right here.
India batted well.
Leave pant alone guys... people have gone into his head.
It's not kohli and company, Kohli is just a part of this company who can't even play sensibly.
Pant used to have the support of Pujara, Vihari, Rahane to play out longer from the other end
Honestly I felt Virat was going to get out . If you look at the balls he was playing on the last few deliveries before getting out , he was leaving a lot less in that channel
Get Kohli out enough is enough there is no room for passengers in this team. He is not playing as a batsman he is merely playing as a sledger
Konstas could do some damage tomorrow with this low score.If we get him out early then it could be a close day tomorrow
Lol Greg Chappel era was not the right analogy to signify that even after disagreements, a team can perform well.
9:28 Rishabh Pant needs to bat according to his batting number. It means that the team has given him the bigger responsibility. If he is batting on 6 or 7, but now the team has given him bigger responsibility (to bat at 5). So he needs to bat in a way that the opposition team need to earn his wicket. He should not be gifting his wicket.
The rain, and Smith dropping catches have kept the series alive till now..
At this point India team is like we had team in early 90's total reliance on Sachin and now it is Bumrah.
That’s why it is called “Test” cricket. It is a test of “Skills” as well as “Temperament”. None has doubt over the skills of our players, but too much of nonsense through print, tv, podcasts and social media have-“shaken” the trust on one’s own ability . We witnessed it , consider how Gill, Kohli and Pant were out.
We missed two best captains India never had Ravi Shastri (One test though) and DK. Time we pick a coach who is non temperamental ... DK, WV Raman, Lalchand Rajput, VVS etc...
Dinesh bhai, a coach should be like you. Cool minded, happy person, laughter, sarcastic, intelligent. Not grumpy like gautam gambhir. The attitude does have impact on teams. All the best as RCB coach.
Shut up
Ya totally but you missed an important point, that the coach should atleast know how to play the game itself. While world knows dinesh kartik was a below average player on the other hand gambhir is a cricketing legend. Only God knows how dinesh karthik survived for so long in indian cricket. Players way better than him have had a smaller career.
@priestf1964 he was a great player buddy. It was spoilt by his marital life, but he bounced back and then retired
@@AmiyaFrappeeDK wasn't great by any means
@AmiyaFrappee great is a big word to use... Greats are player like sehwag gambhir yuvraj etc etc, kartiks stats and performance prove that be was a mediocre player.
Harsha gaaru, Even in Jaiswal's case at MCG the 3rd umpire didn't provide any conclusive evidence to over-turn the on-field umpires decision. He just said, I see deviation but that's not a conclusive proof. Washi's dismissal was ridiculous. That's a clear Not Out.
I have been repeatedly drumming both Rohit and Virat are worn-out. Still the india think tank take foolish decision by retaining Virat who is by and large playing for his selfish records.. At last same old story 😂
DK says One Bad Shot cost his wicket, Come on at highest level you can't afford that too...
At the end of the day it's a game and we need to be fearless and play with spirit. We can't have everyone in the team playing like robots, doesn't mean everything should be random either, we need to find some sort of balance - right now it seems like we are over compensating. Would see India lose playing a nice spirited game rather than play like a team which isn't looking to win.
May be too early for this statement, but bring back Shashri as coach. Players were more relaxed. Under GG, they seem to be out of their own zone
Runs can be scored by working the ball around and running singles and twos. You don’t have to play risky shots for sixes and fours.
Sehwag can't be dravid
Dravid can't be sehwag
Hope you get the point
Don't kill natural game of players
DK in 2030 Virat will have to overcome his technical flaw 😂
Rohit is not there so now whom are they going to blame for the batting debacle that happened today. Fact of the matter is the problem is not with Rohit, Kohli and others, it’s with this clown we have as a coach who was a below average player and has no serious coaching credentials at the international level along with his two assistant side kick coaches. GG has ruined the hardwork of Ravi Shasri, Rahul Dravid and the senior players in a matter of months.
Finally someone is saying truth. GG’s approach maybe good for T20, but not for ODI or Test.
And he thinks shunning senior players will make him something like Dhoni, then he is in wonderlands.
instead of blaming GG could you explain how is he resposible for batting collapse?
@ It’s beyond cricketing skill matters my friend 😊😊
So called below average player for you was number one ranked test batter at his peak.
@@shreyashn1809 Rankings don’t always tell you the truth, he had a poor record outside of the sun continent and apart from his limited cricketing pedigree (and obviously no comparison at all to the genius Rahul Dravid), he is not a people person at all. The same team were doing wonders before his tenure a few months ago. I have nothing personal against GG but he is a total misfit as the Indian coach
Few things to fact check and correct DK Anna here.
Even during Dravid era team news were leaked - T20 World Cup where it was leaked that Hardik and DK were angry on top order for playing slow and putting pressure on lower order.
Shastri era - asked Pujara to play quick or be dropped.
Greg Chappell era - Vikrant Gupta has on record said that Ganguly used to call him to talk and share what’s going on within in the team and what disputes are going on. So all the stories during Chappell era were true to Ganguly lied.