"HE IS DONE" 😰 Should Virat Kohli Be Dropped Before Visiting England? | Bumble & Kimber

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  • @dearmrkiran
    @dearmrkiran 3 години тому +27

    A more important angle would be "what are the NON CRICKETING reasons determining Rohit and Virat's privileged selection in recent years?" Let's get the cats out of the bag, Jarrod.

    • @sidddhaarthsrikanth
      @sidddhaarthsrikanth 3 години тому +6

      It’s not non cricketing reasons. Kohli has years and years of goodwill banked with the BCCI that he’s cashing in rn with his form dip. Rohit on the other hand is using captaincy and BCCIs niceness to keep his place (he really has no goodwill in redball). That’s what it is

    • @shubhdugar4057
      @shubhdugar4057 2 години тому +4

      Pr and fanboys

    • @indian-fc8md
      @indian-fc8md 2 години тому +1

      @@sidddhaarthsrikanth you are absolutely right .

    • @ytuser903
      @ytuser903 2 години тому +5

      ​@@sidddhaarthsrikanth This is exactly the thing. Yes, they had a goodwill. But, I don't think someone should be in the team averaging 25-30 for four years straight.

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому +1

      @@sidddhaarthsrikanthRohit was making runs and making us win in India when no other batter could score a run over the last 4 years. The NZ series was the first one where his form dropped off

  • @shadow_realm47
    @shadow_realm47 2 години тому +10

    Virat's problem is that he's always looking at Sachin playing at 40-42. The problem with that is Sachin was a regular when he was 16-22 but they had a reasonable schedule back then and no IPL.. Now there's a big tournament every year. Virat already has the wear and tear on him of a 40 year old due to the packed schedule whether he likes it or not.
    He should prioritize one format with the IPL, same with Rohit.
    India has lost a whole generation of players in the 26-30 age range cus these two are stubborn. And Jadeja is stubborn. And Ashwin was stubborn.

  • @Marto2168
    @Marto2168 2 години тому +8

    Kohli will never be dropped. He will only leave on his terms. The BCCI know how important he is money wise and popular he is to his fans and viewers. Just like Tendulkar was.

  • @Mirage_1212
    @Mirage_1212 2 години тому +17

    Would have already been dropped had he played for a different test nation.

    • @averma12
      @averma12 Годину тому +1

      Not really no

    • @alextv293
      @alextv293 Годину тому +1

      @@averma12yes

    • @averma12
      @averma12 Годину тому

      @ you saying yes doesn't change facts

    • @alextv293
      @alextv293 Годину тому +1

      @@averma12 it does. The bloke hasn’t scored consistent runs in 5-7 years

  • @dhananjaybhagat8738
    @dhananjaybhagat8738 3 години тому +11

    Kohli would have even worked out this problem but does he have enough time to do it? He will play ODI series against Eng, then Champions Trophy, then IPL and then directly the Test series in Eng. He is such a busy player and when it's the case it's very hard to take time out and work on your weaknesses. Others like Smith, Root and Williamson don't play IPL and they get that extra preparation time for tests. I feel he should not play IPL this year and work on his Test game because that's where his legacy will be remembered and not his IPL stats.

    • @someguy-he2nj
      @someguy-he2nj 2 години тому +2

      I recall kohli claiming that test cricket is his favourite format of the game. His life doesn't depend on the IPL, I don't see a valid reason to not skip ipl and play some county cricket if he actually wants to be selected and prove himself.

    • @dhananjaybhagat8738
      @dhananjaybhagat8738 Годину тому

      @someguy-he2nj Yeah he should either play county or hire a personal coach to work on this issue but this won't happen because playing for RCB is actually a business thing and even BCCI will want him in IPL for their business. Anyway his choices now will determine if he will be remembered as a player who has more than 10k test runs or ends his career with an avg of 45 and under 10k.

    • @abhinavnair790
      @abhinavnair790 Годину тому

      Weirdly enough I think the ODIs are going to make his test game better provided he does well in them. Less ODIs he plays the more he struggles in the other formats.
      He did well in 2023 tests. Look at the no. Of ODIs and his performance in the format. Didn't do well in 2015 ODIs and that year was his poorest from 2012 till 2019.

  • @nikunjdixit1175
    @nikunjdixit1175 Годину тому +3

    If Indian cricket was run on pure cricketing merit, Kohli would have been dropped around the end of 2022. He is averaging 30 in 5 years. How much more rope can a cricketer get? Seeing him get out again and again in the exact same way, knowing that would be the trap was embarrassing to watch. Its unlikely to get any better in swinging conditions. The trouble is that he is such a draw in terms of viewership, and he's arguably still the biggest star in world cricket, that no one in the BCCI has the guts to drop him. Its just sad that a player that was once averaging mid 50's is now averaging under 47. I think the other issue with Indian cricket is that we are so immediately reactive. If India go in with a young side to Eng and loose badly, then people will scream about how they should never drop Kohli and Rohit. As Indian fans, we need to be patient and allow a young side to lose and learn from the losses. The Kohli/Rohit/Rahane/Pujara generation lost every SENA series until 2018-19 BGT. Transition has to be allowed but I highly doubt BCCI will have the courage to drop Kohli. Like Jarrod, I would maybe give Rohit another series, but I wouldn't be against him being dropped as well.

  • @Rohanbhal_30
    @Rohanbhal_30 2 години тому +8

    Rohit and kohli are done, should be dropped and never selected again in my opinion

  • @user-akshay398
    @user-akshay398 3 години тому +23

    Yes yes yes! He should be dropped. I'm Indian and the unwarranted hero worship this man gets in this country after 5 years of mediocrity (ahem, permanent decline) is getting really annoying now.

    • @SubhamKumar-tw5yr
      @SubhamKumar-tw5yr 3 години тому +4

      Yeah
      We have already past his twilight peak in 2023 world cup
      He could have call times off in 2023 world cup on a high note

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 2 години тому +1

      The pitches that India play on in India are crap. that is the reason for 30 average. batters dont get any rhythm because of the shitty pitches. This is because Ashwin and Jadeja are ordinary

    • @induser11677
      @induser11677 2 години тому +4

      @@aksanghai2007 So he does not make runs in India coz it spins, cant make runs in swinging conditions and cannot make runs now in Australia where it seams? How come then Jaiswal making more runs at the top ?

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 2 години тому

      @@induser11677 You cant compare a 36 year old player with a 23 year old player in his prime. and it was Jaiswal's year. I dont think it will last. On crappy pitches you need certain shots that Jaiswal and Pant play like slog sweeps, etc. I am not saying dont drop Kohli, but you have to drop Rohit too. Jaiswal kaa time bhi aayegaa when he will be crap. and I think it will come sooner rather than later.

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 2 години тому

      @@induser11677 Jaiswal struggled in SA because it is tougher for openers. It is easier for openers in India.

  • @induser11677
    @induser11677 3 години тому +25

    Absolutely. Should have been dropped 2 years back.

    • @tanishqsingh8991
      @tanishqsingh8991 3 години тому +7

      Yeah induser on UA-cam gonna decide for kohli to retire

    • @iamhugeandsquare
      @iamhugeandsquare 3 години тому +14

      @@tanishqsingh8991 stop hero worshipping your cricketers mate, if it was anyone else who is now 36 years old averaging just 30 over the last 5 years in test cricket they would be long gone

    • @y.u.v.i
      @y.u.v.i 3 години тому +11

      @@tanishqsingh8991 He's allowed to share his opinion, Tanishq, even if it challenges your beliefs.

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 2 години тому

      @@iamhugeandsquare the pitches that India play on at home are awful. That is the reason, the batters have got no rhythm to score big runs. Ashwin and Jadeja are ordinary.

    • @indian-fc8md
      @indian-fc8md 2 години тому +1

      @@y.u.v.i so is everyone else & no one else cares a dime about ur belief either

  • @br-md2xm
    @br-md2xm 55 хвилин тому +1

    4:39 False, they had small fights on the field, but they never had off field issues. Early in Virat's career, Gambhir gave his award to him during the post match presentation. They are also great friends off field. Only time they had issues was when they were in opposing teams. They both have huge egos but respect each other off field.

  • @vrutik2125
    @vrutik2125 10 хвилин тому

    His peak was 2018 and he definitely didn’t struggle against broad and Anderson that year

  • @rishabh17mishra
    @rishabh17mishra 3 години тому +2

    Both of them need to go.
    They've been great players for Indian cricket and part of being great cricketers is to let go when the time is right and this is the time to go.

    • @induser11677
      @induser11677 2 години тому +1

      Exactly, Indian cricket is bigger than any individual

  • @abhisheksharma07
    @abhisheksharma07 3 години тому +21

    Drop Kohli and retain Rohit ?? Ae you out of your mind Jarrod ? Rohit is not even a test player to begin with.

    • @siddharthraychaudhuri7250
      @siddharthraychaudhuri7250 2 години тому +2

      Exactly!

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому +5

      He literally was the best Test opener over the last 5 years when opening in Tests had become more difficult than it ever was

    • @1x1x1is1
      @1x1x1is1 Годину тому +1

      Rohit is out of form since few months. Virat is out of form since years... Though it feels more of technique issue than form issue

    • @nazalmoideen
      @nazalmoideen Годину тому +2

      Rohit was the best test opener in the world not so long ago

    • @midfielderlounge2592
      @midfielderlounge2592 45 хвилин тому +1

      Didn't rohit scored two centuries vs England in 2024

  • @sdqazx
    @sdqazx 2 години тому +1

    The problem is he does not work hard anymore. He has given up and no passion left for the game. So better for him to focus on his priorities that is his family and retire. If he was serious about his cricket he would have played ranji or county , stopped playing ipl for a year and worked on his 5-6th stump driving nick weakness with a batting coach.

  • @salimramji1740
    @salimramji1740 2 години тому

    Not once do you discuss the preparation bit. How does one prepare for the longer version of the game without playing domestic "test" cricket? Technique and the mental aspect only get stronger when you're out in the middle rather than having prolonged net sessions.

  • @omkaar_g
    @omkaar_g 2 години тому

    Finally a channel that has a conversation objectively about this issue.

  • @aksanghai2007
    @aksanghai2007 2 години тому +2

    Are these guys saying Kohli is not good technically or he is not a good problem solver. wow!!!
    Initially the host thought Zak Crawley was consistent, laughable :) He consistently has been crap. SKY, Shreyas Iyer and Ishan Kishan are crap in test cricket. Even Shubman Gill is struggling on tough pitches. Paddikal, Jurel and Reddy may struggle too. New Dravid and Tendulkar will never be found in modern day T20 cricket.

  • @abhijiththampi
    @abhijiththampi Годину тому

    So many opportunities and players wasted because of selfishness of the current lot. No replacement for Pujara at 3. The one guy they had brought in who had a natural defensive game was Vihari, but I never thought he'd be up to succeed Pujara. And now its too late, we'll never know. Agarwal is an option, yet he also hasnt played test in like 2 years or so. Rahul can hold down a spot for 2+ years but Sarfaraz should've been allowed to consolidate his position. At least Gill and Jaiswal have nailed down openers slot. No replacement for Ashwin. Kuldeep is the best spinner we have but he can't bat. Sundar, as much as we wish, can't bat like a proper 7 nor bowl like the main offie. Due to Jadeja's presence, Axar has not had a full run to build his game like Dhoni gave Jadeja. Shami is only getting older. Umesh and Bhuvi are never coming back. Prasidh and Akashdeep are seemingly the only options, seeing how they never pick Arshdeep for test. The team is going to be a weird mix of guys with their ages not matching their experience. Jaiswal, Gill, Rahul, Sarfraz, Pant, ?, ?, ?, Prasidh, Bumrah, Siraj. Whoever is going to play India after the England tour is going to destroy them.

  • @Blend42
    @Blend42 Годину тому

    Kohli is heading towards a sub 45 average for his career, he's averaged 35.79 in his last 50 tests (and 22.47 in his last 10 tests), it's getting close to time. Warner hung on too long and ended up averaging under 45 which will affect both players assessments in how they are rated for their careers

  • @Natraja_369
    @Natraja_369 2 години тому

    Greg Chappel has written a column in
    Sydney morning herald ,saying that
    Harry Brook has similar ability to the insanely talented Sachin Tendulkar and predicted that Brook is on the wat to greatness.

    • @induser11677
      @induser11677 2 години тому

      To early, but yeah he is really dangerous - takes the game away in a session.

    • @yashwantgarud8967
      @yashwantgarud8967 Годину тому

      brook is good

  • @alenton81
    @alenton81 32 хвилини тому

    DEBATE IS GOOD.
    BUT REMEMBER... SUPPORT THE TEAM... THEY NEED THE FANS MORE THAN EVER AFTER 1-6 FROM 8!!!
    SEND BEST WISHES 🙏

  • @indian-fc8md
    @indian-fc8md 2 години тому +1

    Kohli will decide &if he is not doing well he will go..

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry985 2 години тому

    This happens with every test nation. Modern sport is about branding and player power. Look at the Southee situation or England's selections. Teams dont drop players no more

  • @jarvoh6256
    @jarvoh6256 Годину тому +1

    i would take Kohli but Rohit should stay at home

  • @livercoolutd
    @livercoolutd Годину тому

    What pre-existing issues do Gambhir have with Virat Kohli? Kimber and his regular nonsense

  • @Priyanshu-fd9lk
    @Priyanshu-fd9lk 2 години тому +1

    Mind games have already started😂 meaning he will definitely be there

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому

      Picking him would be “paer pe kulhadi maarna”

  • @chetanjain4138
    @chetanjain4138 2 години тому +1

    He should been dropped ..his average would come down to 40 if he went to England

  • @SivaKumar-fm7el
    @SivaKumar-fm7el 3 години тому

    Jarrod koli problem is his batlift coming from gully ...he is going to struggle

  • @aksanghai2007
    @aksanghai2007 2 години тому +3

    Smith is much better than Kohli in test cricket so there is no comparison. so please dont compare them.

    • @sniperfi4532
      @sniperfi4532 2 хвилини тому

      Nah I think it’s a good comparison when it comes to form slides. But the one thing smith has going for him is that he came back from his 12month ban and was still able to perform. Personally given the same situation were to happen to Kohli I don’t think he’d come back as strong as smith did.

  • @livercoolutd
    @livercoolutd Годину тому

    Before the BGT, Kimber called Australia a poor side. They are ranked 1. They might win the WTC title for the second time. They might hammer England in the Ashes next year. This is not punditry. Sorry.

    • @hridikpaldiwal
      @hridikpaldiwal 45 хвилин тому +1

      he proabably like all aussies is comparing this side to waugh and ponting's side which is why he is calling it poor which has unfortunately been the way many aussies here judge this team

  • @aksanghai2007
    @aksanghai2007 2 години тому +1

    Keep Rohit and move Kohli !!!! Rohit has such a bad average away from home. He had one good series in Eng. I will be shocked if he has another good one. his captaincy has been crap, lost 5 out of 6.

    • @Samir12357
      @Samir12357 2 години тому

      😂😂😂.. aaagaye pr wale.. drop both of them... None of them deserve a place especially Rohit sharma...

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 2 години тому

      @@Samir12357 I am not saying dont drop Kohli. I am just giving the reasons for decline for 5 years. drop him, I dont care.

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому

      @@aksanghai2007Rohit’s arguably been the best Test opener in the last 5 years, however you want to see it

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 6 хвилин тому

      @@AmanKumar-de1kc what???!!! are you smoking ganja?

  • @AdityaTMagar
    @AdityaTMagar 2 години тому +2

    Kohli is finished in red ball format, India literally have endless supply of talents,they are only stuck on this old head kohli because of his PR
    The squad india should start in upcoming England test series :
    Jaiswal
    KL Rahul
    Gill(This is his last chance as he has 0 performance outside of his 90+ runs vs Australia in 2021)
    Sai Sudarshan/Devdutt Paddikal/Ruturaj Gaikwad
    Rishabh Pant
    Dhruv Jurel
    Nitish Reddy
    Sundar/Axar
    Bumrah
    Shami
    Siraj/Akash deep/Arshdeep

    • @induser11677
      @induser11677 2 години тому

      I am really skeptical of Gill. Does not look technical sound. Is just a flamboyant white ball batsman. He needs to come back stronger. Will be keen to try Rahul at 3 and Iyer at 4 with Eswaran as opener. Can even look at Pujara (who playes lots of county cricket) for English series to get some experience. But we all know we all are dreaming. Kohli is gonna be there as Indian selectors lack spine and broadcasters are gonna back him. We will see another 150 - 200 runs from Kohli in 10 innings in England. For Rohit, I feel if he wins Champions Trophy, (which India has a good chance of as they play all matches in same wicket in Dubai- batsman friendly plus slow bowlers' wicket), he will get the hype (captain with multiple ICC trophy) and will be there in England as well. (thats how subcontinent cricket works)!

    • @sumbdi
      @sumbdi Годину тому

      Jadega should be there for sure

  • @aksanghai2007
    @aksanghai2007 2 години тому +2

    Even Sachin, Dravid and Yunus Khan would have struggled nowadays too, on these tough pitches. Grassy in Aus, SA and minefields in India. The batting averages are the worst in SA and India and Aus nowadays.

    • @induser11677
      @induser11677 2 години тому +1

      So how come Smith, Root and Williamson averages over 50? Let us be honest and accept they are past their prime. They are not even best batsman in their team. Kohli does get out even in ordinary balls, I really hoped he ended career with at least an average around 50. But that NZL Series really showed us that they are past their prime. Let us back new talent and move on. Kohli is a great white ball batsman but a good Test match player.

    • @aksanghai2007
      @aksanghai2007 2 години тому

      @@induser11677 and of course Smith is much better than Kohli in test cricket so there is no comparison.

    • @natarajkrishnaswamy3354
      @natarajkrishnaswamy3354 Годину тому +1

      What about Jadeja, Pant, Jaiswal, Axar, Rohit, Gill who all average better than him in the last 5 years?

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому +1

      I’m not sure about the others but Sachin would have found a way. He was exceptional in the 90s, another bowling friendly era. You’re literally talking about the best since Bradman

    • @midfielderlounge2592
      @midfielderlounge2592 38 хвилин тому

      Sachin did in 90s bro against way better bowlers
      Yes bowlers of that times were better than today's or in 2010s
      Only england and new zealand had better bowlers compared to 90s
      Other than that sri lanka had way better bowlers
      Same with west indies pakistan and south africa and Australia

  • @Barkbatosu
    @Barkbatosu 13 хвилин тому

    Kohli should talk to LeBron’s stero-I mean conditioning coach

  • @australovenator5360
    @australovenator5360 2 години тому

    smith is 35 and a half

  • @Jaymz001
    @Jaymz001 2 години тому

    Id pop kholi down to 6 and tell him his job is to support the tail.

  • @vishnuduvvuru243
    @vishnuduvvuru243 Годину тому

    KL, ROHIT, VIRAT should retire from test cricket

  • @jehanariyaratnam2874
    @jehanariyaratnam2874 3 години тому +1

    No he shouldn't be dropped, he brings value to the side. Hes not afraid to get physical with the opposition players, his over exuberant celebration of wickets running around like a complete prat, and his ability to become prickly and aggressive with everyone including the media. Who cares about the runs when he brings all of the above?

    • @bobhawke7373
      @bobhawke7373 3 години тому +4

      Your comment basically reads
      'Kohli doesn't need runs when he is the leader in every single negative aspect of the Indian team'

    • @debasismohanty1952
      @debasismohanty1952 2 години тому

      Bcci can't drop Virat and rohit because of their brand values india at the moment don't have any super stars other than Virat and rohit

    • @patricktoole3687
      @patricktoole3687 2 години тому

      “He’s not afraid to get physical with opposition players”, ahhh… you do know this sport is cricket don’t you? It’s not football. If any cricketer feels the need to make physical contact with another player, he doesn’t belong on a cricket field. Verbal is a different story because that is strategic, but physically contacting another player just shows weakness, panic and a lack of class. Not to mention it telegraphs that you are losing

    • @bobhawke7373
      @bobhawke7373 Годину тому +1

      @@debasismohanty1952
      What is a 'brand value'? And does it win cricket games?

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому

      We want a batter not a bloody bouncer

  • @swarnavabanerjee4112
    @swarnavabanerjee4112 3 години тому

    Yes he should be

  • @dinkin_flicka14
    @dinkin_flicka14 Годину тому

    he should be dropped but if i know Indian Cricket any better, he will be given more chances. BCCI is the most powerful and richest cricket board in the whole world, but they don't have guts to drop their own.

  • @tigersden13
    @tigersden13 2 години тому

    If he plays then he'll have put himself before Indian cricket

  • @ignatiuscastelino1880
    @ignatiuscastelino1880 Годину тому

    VK should have dropped 4 years ago

  • @mpl4629
    @mpl4629 3 години тому +3

    No he should not. He will comeback in champion trophy and eng series.

    • @iamhugeandsquare
      @iamhugeandsquare 3 години тому +7

      you blokes have been saying that for 5 years now! delusional, unless they serve up roads he is done in test cricket

    • @fahadalam8322
      @fahadalam8322 2 години тому

      😂 and venky Prasad is quicker than Shahid Afridi 😂
      Joke of the century

    • @jayantarya8813
      @jayantarya8813 2 години тому +3

      He has got enough ropes of 5 years which is injustice to other cricketers who aspire to represent India. Have some shame

  • @sanjayprakash471
    @sanjayprakash471 3 години тому +1

    Yes should be dropped

  • @BigAmp
    @BigAmp 3 години тому +2

    Kohli is an all time great. Can still score a century. He's got thousands of runs left in him. Drop him at your peril.

    • @fahadalam8322
      @fahadalam8322 2 години тому +4

      Keep dreaming champ
      He's worse than Jason sanghaaa

    • @fahadalam8322
      @fahadalam8322 2 години тому

      He's not an all time great
      Can't even average 50 in tests
      That's terrible in this flat track era

    • @arpanbera7655
      @arpanbera7655 2 години тому

      This is not flat deck era except pak at home more toughest deck then sewag Sachin era they enjoyed more flat decks
      WTC decks are toughest ​@@fahadalam8322

    • @bhargavsheshadri4162
      @bhargavsheshadri4162 2 години тому

      @@fahadalam8322he played all 3 formats like a god for over a decade, so if 27300+ runs don’t make you a an all time great, you need cricketing lessons loser

    • @AmanKumar-de1kc
      @AmanKumar-de1kc Годину тому

      @@fahadalam8322Yes he’s not an all time great in Tests but this is NOT a flat track era. This is the farthest from flat tracks we have ever been

  • @aksanghai2007
    @aksanghai2007 2 години тому +1

    The pitches that India play on in India are crap. that is the reason for 30 average. batters dont get any rhythm because of the shitty pitches. This is because Ashwin and Jadeja are ordinary.
    Nowadays due to WTC the pitches are tough guys. India lost the BGT due to the ordinary bowlers. they could not even get Travis Head out. Even Pak and WI got him out easily

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 2 години тому

      Ashwin Jadeja Rohit Kohli all overstayed and should have retired in 2023.

  • @sridharsambana
    @sridharsambana 3 години тому +2

    Soon people are gonna eat their words 😇

  • @siddharthraychaudhuri7250
    @siddharthraychaudhuri7250 2 години тому

    Virat Kohli deserves one last hurrah in Test Cricket, a format he has done so much for. But Rohit is not really a Test Captain.

  • @livercoolutd
    @livercoolutd Годину тому

    "I would keep Rohit and remove Kohli."
    Ok, Kimber. What a ridiculous idea. Both should go, obviously. Ask anyone with cricketing knowledge, like Ian Chappell.

    • @midfielderlounge2592
      @midfielderlounge2592 33 хвилини тому +1

      Jarrod is the greatest out there mate

    • @livercoolutd
      @livercoolutd 23 хвилини тому

      @@midfielderlounge2592 If he's that good, he should be able to tell that Rohit's in far worse touch than Kohli rn and that it has everything to do with age. Kohli, too, doesn't deserve a spot because he's not performing.