MFD Mini Crosswind build with MFD guts!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- MFD Mini Crosswind Plane: www.myflydream....
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Well... this is my build of the Mini Crosswind, sorry it ended up so long... but there was a lot to share! Will have the blog post ready in a few days as well, as well as the next video in the series - the review of the plane! Nothing all too special about the built, except for the Dragonlink control, everything else is MFD - plane, autopilot, antenna tracker, and it all comes together quite nicely, since it was meant to work together! Really happy with this plane, the autopilot AND the antenna tracker... just make sure you check the plane's manual, which can be downloaded from MFD's website, before gluing anything, so you don't miss a few small bits!
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I have been seriously considering picking up a Crosswind Pro or Mini, and your channel consistently comes up in search results with very high quality production content. As an engineer, I really appreciate the detail you put into all your videos. You've got another subscriber!
Thank you! Really appreciate it! :)
FYI for anyone assembling one.
I have received an MCW recently & the wing connectors will close tightly.
In order to keep a tighten fit I have fitted the metal plates & 0.4mm of shims.
In this video where the wing won’t fully close, it is definitely not the case when assembled on a batch from this year
Well... actually I haven't fitted my metal plates... :) I guess there might have been some change to that!
ArxangelRC yea it was because you said you were glad you didn’t as you couldn’t get the wings to go in further, they defo go all the way in the with connectors and plates fitted
Cool, glad to know they are paying attention! :)
I design this plane but never got the change to assemble one, there finally see someone doing that
Interesting! You designed it?
Yeah I am the designer of that plane, but sadly I haven’t work for MFD right now for some personal reason
I see! Well nice to meet you mate! :)
You are soldering the wrong way and will get cold solder joints or disconnects in flight. You need to tin the solder tip, then touch it against the metal you want to solder so that it can transfer enough heat so that next, when you put solder on the METAL (not on the solder tip) it will cause the solder to melt directly on the METAL. Without actively adding solder you are not adding flux to your connector which is a MUST for a proper solder connection.
Actually... I am touching the connector with the tip, it starts heating up... and then I apply solder directly to the point where the tip is touching the metal. So far I've had no issues or cold solder problems doing it this way... and it has been years! Also... this way all available flux does get used to fuse solder to metal... rather than just burning it up by tinning the tip first!
Oh boy was looking forward to this ! Thank you ! Gonna get a coffee, relax and sink into this Video. I Just Ordered the nano Talon Limited Edition with fpv+Kopilot. Will be my first plane ! And just wanted you too know that it was you who convinced me to do this and i hope you get a smile on your face while reading this ! :) And i just had to become a Patreon ! I see a bright future for this channel ! This is only the beginning !
Hahahaha, I did indeed get a smile reading this! This version of the NT does have some mods done to it... so I hope they would have fixed all of the things that weren't exactly OK with the regular version! I should be getting one as well... so will make it sweat and prove its worth! :)
@@ArxangelRC wow awesome, this is just getting better and better !
:)
Congratulation for your Dragonlink V3!
Wellcome to the DL-Family ! 😉😎😍😍😍
Thanks! It is a great system indeed!
Please don't make your other videos smaller, the level of detail and amount of information is the reason we come to your videos to learn so much
Really? I do think longer videos make people bored.. I mean... average watch duration even on this one is like 5 mins.... :D
@@ArxangelRC if you're catering to the "I want to be entertained" crowd, then you're correct, in fact your videos should be flashy, full of click bait, and lots of "wow" and "oops!" moments, but if you want to engage an educated audience that would love to follow on your footsteps then lots of info helps. Perhaps you could do the short and & flashy type of video and add a link to a more detailed blog post with all the relevant information?
Short and flashy... not sure I like it... I do prefer to convey information with priority! And there is always the blog for most of the planes, that has it very detailed... but most people never get there... so I do have to make the videos informational as well!
I am more than certain she will fly because of your FPV knowledge and experience. BTW ... Dragonlink is sooo solid and has always been my choice. Cheers my good friend.
Yeah, I am getting that impression of the Dragonlink too! And thanks... I am happy to know somebody has faith in my skills... but it is never only down to skills! :P
So a while ago I ordered this plane. It arrived without an elevator or rudder. MFD would not respond so got no help. I had to dispute the charge with PayPal. They still didn't respond. Eventually PayPal gave me my money back and I got a box of foam lol. Just a warning incase anyone gets burned by MFD too.
I hate this behaviour to ignore customer complains. And mfd planes are a lot more expensive than others and therefore customer service should be the opposite.
Oh darn it... I do hate hearing of such stories.... really not sure why this happens and what gets lost in the communication!
Awesome build info. I love to build... Just, completed an entire built of a Diatone GT 2019 R349, and built the Eflite Maule M7 that needed some modifications and new parts to complete. One day I may build this one...thanks for sharing! Subbed your channel!!
Glad you like it mate! Best of luck! :)
Looking forward to the flight video. I have a release day crosswind mini and it had quite a few differences to yours!
Really? Like what?
Spectacular as always. I love these assembly videos. Now see how it flies, autonomy, coverage, etc.. Thx :)
Thanks! Yes, all of that will be coming next! :)
Video just the right length while I'm putting my kids to sleep :) impressive kit. Can't wait to see someone make a 3 motor version :)
Hahaha, good then.... it will be used for putting kids to sleep! :) As for 3 motor version... I might do it... but will have to see how it will perform when I replace the motors with the proper ones for this plane... and then might add a front one just for the same of testing it that way... but might need a larger battery too... and lets hope the wings and tail survive the extra speed! :)
@@ArxangelRC Excellent! Maybe laminate the wings - then they'll hold any G's no problem!
Well... that is not the main issue... wings are stiff enough... the locks might be the weak bit... and laminating won't help there!
Great intro video well done.
I've been flying the mini for quite a while now.
Started off at 3.5kg's and while she flew kind of ok at this weight she now flys much better at 2.7kgs.
Personally, I think the elevator on this plane is just not up to anything heavier
Great fpv plane for medium range flying.
Looking forward to your Crosshair & Crossbow thoughts!
Interesting to know! Felt quite good at 2.8kg... will see how it goes when I add the gimbal to the front... but first I've got some new motors to play with! :)
Nice to see this long waiting assembly. For info, I'm using FOAM-CURE glue from Bob Smith Industry and it's far far better on final look of the model. You don't see the glue ! Crystal look and not yello like old PPU.
Hmmmm... interesting... does it soften EPO? Is it strong? I've used some foam safe, transparent glues before... but they turned out pretty weak when it comes to holding power!
@@ArxangelRC like all kind of EPP/EPO glue, it need air to completely dry. That depend the use case. But for lovely and beautiful plane, I use it on every visible part because it's crystal clear and strong ! And it stay soft. Read some pro/cons here www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=31520976&postcount=24. RCmodelsreview show it many years ago I think but not sure. Previously I was buying from hobbyking but I find it in France RC shops like intermodels.
Yup, will check it out! Thanks! :)
Welcome in Dragonlink Club! ;-)
Thanks! There IS peace of mind in having a robust link!! :)
Can't wait to see the Crossbow mini review :)
Working on it, but since I am on vacation... finally... work is going slow! :)
Muy buen vídeo con mucho detalle, es de agradecer. Espero algún día poder comprar el equipo.Esperando los próximos vídeos, recibe un saludo de un seguidor de España.
Thanks mate, working on the next videos, but progress is slow as I am on vacation, but will do my best!
Just one word to describe Your video: awesome!!!
Haha, thanks mate! :) Glad you like it!
I am very impressed with your building skills. What a wonderful plane, but having to build will prevent me from owning this plane. Sad!
Hmmm... it is not so difficult... but I would suggest cutting your teeth of a few cheaper models! :)
Great detailed review m8...The 5.8 Linear Patch looked interesting, as did the Monster Marek vtx...be interested to see how they work.
Well... soon you will see... the Vtx does get quite hot even on 250mW... and the antenna... can't yet tell because I have a feeling the one I am using on the plane is crappy! So more tests will be needed!
Great video sir, I do appreciate your hard work and love that you explain the procedure of the connection of the new MFD AP... not every one is taking the time to show this! as well as the fact that it saves the problem of linking the telemetry... "That I assume will be as well compatible with immersion RC eZuhf....I will be giving you 3 thumbs up with my 3 different accounts ...
Hahahaha, thanks mate! Yeah... the telemetry output, which should be some sort of Mavlink, should be compatible with the Immersion stuff!
You sound fairly similar to Captain Joe, so I'm gonna think of you as the Captain Joe of the RC plane world.
Hahahahaha, sure...! :)
I'm building a Crosswind Mini and have almost everything but the Nimbus 2814 Motors. Where were you able to find them? Looking forward to using the MFD Crosshair Auto Pilot, seems to work well. Your videos have helped me a lot, thank you! Chris
I got them from MFD! I have added a link to the power pack, featuring the motors, but if you don't need the whole pack, you can email MFD and I think they should be able to send you the motors only!
Where can I find those Mpx connector with 9+2 pins?
Actually those may have the colour of MPX.. but it is possible they are some custom or purpose made connectors for our purposes now... will inquire about the specific model, but I have not seen something like this before!
OK, I have confirmation... those are custom connectors and at this point cannot be bought elsewhere!
Hello. Do you remember what is the weight of full kit with connectors and plastic pieces? Thanks
Not really... could be around 1kg... give or take...
Now we are talking! I may just get this.
:)
What a cliffhanger Jaja well done.
Hahahaha, well.... didn't want to reveal too much before the next video! :)
I can only imagine how long this video took to make!
Quite long... :D But... all worth it if it is useful to somebody!
Great video - thanks for sharing
Thank you! :)
Could you make a more detail video on how to wire up the MFD crosshair AP your video is the only one that has the one that I got. Thank you for your information that you give to us , it is a lot of help.
Bill Flightmasters
Yes, I will have a video on the AP on its own, so will show how to wire everything up there! :)
Dear Nikolai,
What would your rather recommend - crosswind or X-UAV clouds?
Well... it largely depends on the intended use! For FPV only... the Clouds is a very tempting option because it is relatively compact, once CG is correct it is absolutely a dream to fly, and auto take offs are exceptionally easy! The Crosswind Pro is definitely more oriented towards mapping... and it is a good deal bulkier... and also more expensive!
Could you tell me where his CG is and the minimum battery weight to be ready for flight? I put a lipo of 4s of 10,000mah well ahead and still it is not working.
CG is right at the front edge of the wiring channel in the wing! As for the battery... just add more weight to the nose! I have an FPV system in mine, and also put on a DJI Osmo Action camera on the nose, so my 900 gram battery is more than enough to balance the plane, and I also mount it a bit back too.
See the first flight of the plane I bought and assembled after seeing
you do the reviw on your channel. I'm in the Federal District, Brazil: ua-cam.com/video/Sjhe7col264/v-deo.html
@@JuniorLobo76 Nice paint scheme! And looked like a pretty good flight! Well done! :)
Hello ArxangelRC, hope you are doing well. Can you please advise how do you usually center the servos you mentioned at 12:11? I am struggling with this doing my first built. Thanks in advance
Hey... well... I power the servos with a servo tester, centre them, and adjust the clevises and/or push rods until the control surface is flush with the rest of the wing, or in the case of the tail... until it looks flush with the whole horizontal stabilizer...
Hi, good morning ... wish you a great week !!! Great video, thanks for sharing, we move on to the next challenge? Best regards ... What's new on my channel? A video about a new challenge achieved with the Volantex 757-3, I reached 3 km away despite the strong wind ... it's little for many long range experts, but it was a big step for me, you are always welcome !!!
Hi, yes, I think I did watch it... well done mate! :)
Can you provide the link for the 12v and 5v sbec connected to the power module?
Thank you
Well that one is part of the Autopilot set - www.myflydream.com/products/d-0/337.html - I have not seen it sold separately!
Thank!
You are welcome!
I'd like to buy it but if you look at the prices it becomes a bit expensive cause plane 150$, then pnp add on kit for 130$ and Autopilot 180$... 460$ plus customs I assume ...
That is a nightmare - for a styrofoam piece and flaws like the missing motormount access.
Volantex has a blown plastic fuselage
It is a lot of passion that drives it but always a lot of money.
Right... well... unlike with the electronics provided for MFD products... which is actually top notch stuff... I mean... HobbyWing ESCs (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), I can actually recommend the power pack for these planes with absolute certainly! In comparison... I cannot recommend the Volantex electronics, and my first suggestion most of the time is to replace most of it, if not all... so really... if you have to buy proper stuff anyway... it is not that much cheaper... you do have to take into account the quality of the parts included... no only that they both provide ESCs... because in my experience... who made the ESC is quite important! Same goes for the servos, and other stuff, including motors! I may be OK running my Volantex motor on the Phoenix 2400 on 4S, but other people are burning theirs.... what does that tell you? LACK OF QC and lack of reliable manufacturing to ensure they can all survive those conditions! Haven't had any complaints about anything that has ever come on an MFD plane!!! There IS a reason why all my planes are running HobbyWing ESCs... and also why MFD are using that particular brand too!
@@ArxangelRC yes, I can understand that but if I start such an adventure that can go terribly wrong as you know I should be aware of the total amount at stake and that is a lot more than the kit.
The other point: chinese kind of understanding customer satisfaction
Banggood and Gearbest as retailers are hard to fight with regarding warranty or missing pieces ... even with paypal.
And I do nit wanna imagine the fight with a manufacturerer with a sales team that is not so internationally experienced.
Another point: Banggood and gearbest know how to get their parts into the EU but who knows about mfd and ce certificates?
If I spend 500€ + I want to have at least a sales outlet in europe like Xiaomi has or dji.
I bought dji and they handled my complains like other european or german companies.
And I was happy that Volantex had offered blown fuselages and the quality they delivered cause they worked out for me. Arrived in good condition and all pieces in the box.
Maybe MFD delivers higher quality that I could not see but
★ will I get the same attention if I complain
★ why are people complaining about tiny parts missing or broken
★ does your shipping might get a second check
Sorry, but spending 150$ for a volantex - even if the components are crap which you did not mention in your volantex reviews that volantex motor, esc, servis, props are crap - and upgrading it piece by piece is a different story then putting 500$ for a piece of foam + electronics from china with not much responsibility and customer care and no european sales or distribution.
Europe is an even bigger market with highet pooulation density than the US so they should be able to have a solution.
If not they fear european consumer rights and are unwilling to fullfill orders.
MFD might be great but risks are too high - for me and I don't wanna spend so much for a bit of electronics in a cheap styrofoam fuselage.
But: I like to see the success you'd achieved with the plain and thanks to your skills too - that I do not have ... for building, flying, repairing.
The only thing I can do better than you for sure is ... crashing a plane one way or the other.
Hahaha, actually I do mention every now and again, that the Volantex gear could use replacing, especially the servos... but I've reviewed so many of their planes now, that at some point it should just be a known fact... I just get tired of repeating it! As for MFD... they do sag a bit on the customer support... but not because of lack of international experience! Not sure why actually... it is weird for me... but you do get some small issues every now and get... for the most part they get resolved! But I do get your point... but personally... if I have to wait for something to be stocked in the EU... might as well give up, as I would be the last to get it! I've accepted long ago that I should expect no help from China, even if something is wrong with the plane, and just fix it myself! 3D printing has certainly made that much easier... and even foam... I still can't make this plane myself... let alone make it look so good, or fly so well... not unless I make it my full time job to design one... which is not an aspiration at this time!
Great video 👍. What motor /prop combo would you recommend for a 4 s. Setup?
Thanks! Well at least 700Kv motors for sure... as for the props... same ones I am using - 10x7 or 11x7 or even higher pitch!
some info. at 6:20, W R O N G. MOTOR leads Should be lengthened. main power leads should NOT be lengthened.
True... but there is no provision for the ESCs to be inside the fuselage of the plane... not enough power pins on the MPX connector for that, so the battery to ESC wires have to this long! From there, I am using ESCs from another project that have the connectors on the PCBs.. and even if they didn't... they would still have to be mounted in the nacelles... so makes no difference really, other than having to cut some foam to fish them out when I get to replacing the motors next week! :)
@@ArxangelRC 'no provision'. lmao.
'power pins' wtf. COMMONSENSE prevails over 'no provision'. this logically flawed attempt to defend STOOPIDITY, says it ALL.
Not defending anything... just saying! In a design like this, where you have such connectors to provide power to the wing... you are limited by what the connector can do! In this case, the large power connectors on it, are only 2... which means that if you want to keep the ESCs inside the plane, which would help shorten the wires to the battery... you will have to run an external 3rd wire, for the 3rd phase of the motor, which kinda defeats of the purpose of this quick connector if you still have to fiddle with connecting and disconnecting additional wires when dealing with the plane! Furthermore... in so many years... having built quite a lot of these planes, and most have had the battery to ESCs wires to be the longer ones... I've never had or seen an issue with that! Keep in mind we are talking about pretty short lengths of wires here after all, even if they do appear long... with respect to the hobby... not sure you will start to see any actual issues until you go into the meters... lots of them! For a 30-40cm length of wire... unless it is pretty thin... I don't see how that can be an issue!
Hi, may i know how does the fligh characteristics of this plane compare to the atom rc swordfish? Thanks!
I have not flown the Swordfish, so I cannot say! However, the Mini Crosswind is one of the best and most stable flyers out there, no tip stall either, so it will not disappoint!
@ArxangelRC ok thanks!
@@21y1ihuangzhongyi6 👍🙂
Good job!!!! Can you send a link to the motors you are using? Would like to build the same set up
Which ones, the 700Kv or the 510Kv?
I'll take those paper weights off your hands if you don't want them anymore lol
Hahahahaha... well... how the hell am I going to be putting new planes together if I give them up?
Did Mfd ever came out with the pnp version? 4 hrs flight wow? How is that possible?
Great video, Also could share a link to 3D print that vtx mount please, thanks
Hi, drop me a message on FB and I can send you the file! As for MFD... no updates on that yet... will have to ask!
wow awesome job awesome video awesome narrative.
Thanks! :)
Another wicked video .
Thank you!
Helloi always like your vids i see you have the wg2x. I wanna buy one to but can it control by rc for yaw 360 during flying? Thanks Rene
Yeah, sadly that gimbal cannot be controller from the radio, or at least I am not aware of how to do it! :(
@@ArxangelRC that is sad but thanks alot .then i know.i look further then.cheers
@@fpvall4693 Good luck!
How many amps the plane is drawing during take-off?
If the current sensor is to be believed... I think it was around 40A
@@ArxangelRC thank you for your answer. Keep up the awesome presentations.
Will do, thanks! :)
Did you do a video review of the dragon link finally?
A while ago: ua-cam.com/video/5dBfR3WhmT4/v-deo.html
just subbed you are amazing!!!!
Thank you! :)
Thank you! :)
Very informative!
Thank you!
Hey what size are the T-motors you used?
If I remember correctly, those are 3110 700Kv ones!
Awesome job, It's a lot of help for me.
Yesterday, I tried Crossbow mini with iNav2.2.1( matek F722-wing + matek M8Q GPS + Teleflytiny tracking module), But Crossbow mini didn't work :(
I connected shared GPS configuration, Teleflytiny works good at OSD(ublox 115200bps, OSD express GPS coorinates), but Crossbow mini is not work.
Is Crossbow mini not support for iNav?
iNav doesn't matter! In the settings for the TeleFlyTiny and also the Crossbow Mini there are options to set them to V2 or V1 tracking data! If one is set to V2, which I assume the TeleFlyTiny is, and the Crossbow Mini is set to V1, which is how mine came... then they will not see each other!
You just have to adjust this in the settings!
@@ArxangelRC Thank you for your advice!!!
I tried to set VBI V2 both of them(Teleflytiny and crossbow mini), but It didn't work.
I'll check all the system again, and will retry it!
Hmmm... that is weird! Did you figure out what the problem was?
@@ArxangelRC Thank you for your consideration.
Today, I received new VRX(RC832) so I retry it,
ALL THINGS ARE OK!! CROSSBOW mini is GOOD WORK!
My falulty are :
1. Bad VRX : previous tries, I used bad VRX, so that affect GPS communication to crossbow mini.
2. Bad V : I supplied 2S voltage to crossbow mini. now I use 3s Li-Ion battery. As you know, crossbow mini require 12~16V.
My setup is Matek F722-wing + iNav2.2.1 + Matek M8Q(shared configuration, ublox 115200BPS in iNav) and etc.
In my humble opinion, I believe that "calibration" at crossbow mini is important.
Thank you again!!!
Great Vid ....Cheers
Thank you!
Waiting for the maiden video.... Autolauch on maiden ?????
OK... this one wasn't the maiden... BUT... yes... auto launch on maiden indeed!
Salut je voudrait équiper mon nano talon d'un trakeur antenna j'ai flaché une fc mamba sous inav si j'achète juste ce module c'est possible ?
www.myflydream.com/products/c-0/348.html
Yes, with this module you can have the antenna tracker regardless of what the autopilot is!
Great video! What is the benefit of Lion vs Lipo?
Much greater energy density in the same weight basically!
@@ArxangelRC thanks! Any specific size or brand of the cells?
Depends on the application!
@@ArxangelRC for the MFD Crosswind for example. I have seen factory pictures with 22.000 mah LiPo...
The big Crosswind would easily carry that battery... but if it was LiIon... it would be about 30.000mAh for the same weight!!! So you can imagine how useful that can be... upping the usable capacity of the battery by 40%... with ZERO weight gains!
Is this “Captain Joe”??
Nope! :P
Lets say I could get Trappy to send you some Crossfire stuff... how likely would you jump on it? ;)
Weeeeeell... jump on it in the sense of actually using it, and testing, and sharing my honest opinion and comparisons to the R9 system... and the Dragonlink... or jump on it in the sense of gaining a cult like devotion to the system just because it was sent to me by the almighty Trappy, and because OTHER people seem to praise it for one reason or another? :P
@@ArxangelRC let's see what I can do ;)
@@ArxangelRC talked to trappy, he will relay the request... not sure how soon you will hear from them, let me know if they don't :)
OK mate, thanks, no word yet! :)
ArxangelRC they are moving offices so give them a week and please let me know in case nothing still has happened :)
1600mm mini? :)
Well... compared to the Crosswind Pro... this one does feel like a mini, especially in bulk!
I should really unsubscribe, its going to cost me so much money if i keep watching your videos lol
This video does make it easy to spend the money.
Many nice things. Lots of homework done. Great stuff.
Hahahahahaha, oh come on guys... you are making me feel bad now.... hahahahaha! Actually.... watching it... makes me want to buy another tracker.... don't know why... it is just so small, and quite, and tiny!!!
You made really nice explanations, thank you very much. But your workmanship is really poor, you could work cleaner and more attentive.
Thanks! Work cleaner? In what way? I guess I could! :)
@@ArxangelRC especially glue residues...:)
but really good work, thank you for your clear explanations...
:) Well... I leave the glue residue for the added strength, and because that doesn't really bother me anymore... :)
First!!!!
Hahaha, this always makes me laugh when I see it! :)