What a refreshing review. Love the comments about get to know the limitations of your model and each model has different characteristics. You showed what the model is capable of doing. which all reviews should be about .
@@ArxangelRCnice video! I have a question: can you program such an aircraft so that it flies a certain trajectory autonomously after take-off and returns autonomously to the starting point at a certain battery level? So you can concentrate on filming.
@@thomaskerpen840 Yes, you can, although concentrating on filming would indicate you have a pan/tilt camera mount, or a gimbal of some sort, which can be controlled and rotated Independent of the aircraft.
Ooooh, i just wish somebody would make a review of Sonicmodel HD wing (1200mm) in SUCH quality like you do all these reviews!! You are the best and honest reviewer out there! Well done!
Thank you! Not sure if there will be a kit, but spare parts are available ( bit.ly/TGT-spares )... and I think you can put together the whole plane... could be about as much as the PNP though!!! I do hope they come out with a KIT version.... but in my view the electronics in there are good enough for me personally not to want to replace anything before flight!
Your viewers trust you and trust your opinion, that's what we keep watching your videos. As for myself I trust every bit of information that is being said by you Mate... KEEP IT UP
Thankyou for this and the comparison to the Dart XL, I look forward to a video on your autopilot and setup. Brilliant review and I love the rant, u had me in stitches, keep up the great work :)
Hahaha my friend, that John seems to have seriously pissed you off ! Well...don't listen to these pricks, the internet is full of them. Know that 99,9 % of people watching your videos appreciate them to the fullest ! Thanks for all your hard work, it is very valuable ! Filip
Hahahahaha, thanks guys! No, he hasn't pissed me off... but some people come to me and tell me I say good things about this and that only because it was sent for review for free... and it is not my honest opinion, because this or that guy said there were some problems... and hence I must be lying... but at no time do they think this guy might not be completely in the know of the capabilities of the plane and/or is trying to use it in the wrong way!
Great review, it is an excellent plane, I doubt I'll have time to fly anything else now... I just made a carry case, so it'll be going places in the car for some more adventurous FPV. I did a few mods to mine that have stopped the digging in, and I tape laminated the tail skeg, It's had several slams, but no major foam breaks yet. Posting mods and build on RCG. Cheers, and thanks for another inspiring video.
Just put mine together and used a clear laminating film on the lower wing fins and durability increased significantly. Just need to be careful heating the laminate; the foam seems to melt at a lower temp than other epp I’ve worked with
Good to know! I ran out of laminating film a long time ago... but perhaps it might be time to source some more for some random projects! No my favourite job though!
foam does not break when it hits and compress, it breaks when it decompress; its traction forces what breaks foam; as much elastic, much damage for decompression; carbon fiber strips are good to protect the foam, but, if you cover the foam with packing tape, you will also protect it from traction forces, preventing decompression, and will save some grams of weight :)
Yup, that is true... but... if it can't break and move away from the impact, because it is covered in tape... it will squish and wrinkle... not sure which is worse!
Thank you for the reassurance about crashing these things! I just did my first flight last weekend and managed to nosedive in the parking lot in 3 minutes flat🤣🤣🤣 I was feeling pretty bummy until this. Thanks!
It's a little Ak800 but I bent the nose, crushed the prop, bent the spindle on the motor, busted the canopy and split a wing about 1/3rd through. 😂 Actually, not as bad as it sounds. Fixed the wing and motor and now I'm straightening the nose and making a fpv cockpit 👍
Maybe laminate the bottom stab fins? Great review and such good news a company is actually doing some testing. It'll be cool to see what mods pilots come up with on Thingiverse this summer.I'd expect to see a smoothed out nose cap, similar to ones printed for the Drak line. Bad aerodynamics aside, I think you showed the other primary disadvantage to a belly landing plane with a shovel shaped nose. It's doing exactly what you'd expect. Now that we know this (thanks to your flights) maybe they'll make an design change? Don't apologize for long videos! I love this format! Well done. Looking forward to your Flight Controller video. I know you've done a lot of these but it's cool to see new ideas on wiring all of this together. We all sortof change how we do it with each model, at least I do. Cheers from North Carolina!
Thanks mate, appreciate it! Yes... they could rework the nose section for the next iteration... would talk to them about that... but seeing how they go about these... with so much research, etc., they do claim a real airplane engineer had something to do with the design of the plane... and perhaps that could explain why the air intake is there... he doesn't really design full size airplanes to belly land... so he could put the intake anywhere! :)
You are part of those reviewers that always enjoy the stuff they receive because the system works by you selling items thorough affiliate links. This way you can't make critics if you want to receive new stuff. It sucks that all reviews have become this way
I've been gluing milk jug plastic to the belly of my planes for ages, it's crazy that so many belly landers have no protection and good to see it on this one
@@ArxangelRC because milk jug plastic is HDPE, I always score the glued side in a diamond pattern to give the glue something better to bond too, I score at an angle so the blade creates a lip for the glue to get under and grip rather than just a straight score. It has been saving the underside of my planes for a long while now :)
@@ArxangelRC does your milk not come in plastic jugs in your country? Here in the UK almost everyone buys there milk in 4 or 6 pint (3.4L) plastic jugs from the supermarket and almost nobody gets there milk delivered. Whilst your here, in your videos you sometimes mention a mini APM, when you mention that f Do you mean the actual mini APM or do you mean the APM Pro?
Not really... in 1l plastic or cardboard boxes! I mean the Micro APM 3.1 for instance... youtube doesn't allow me to add links here for some reason! :(
Hey, I know that its an older video, but im just getting back to FPV in general. I'm deciding between the dart XL or this one, both the same price (about 110€ from banggood as a kit), which one would you pick for medium range FPV flying (2-4km, maybe even long range if Ill have the balls for it)? I'm more of a cruiser guy, but would like to try a V-tail. Is the dart a better option as its more stabile and a better cruiser or should I give the talon a shot?
Well, both are good! V-tail makes no real difference in how the plane feels from an FPV point of view... soooooo... I'd say get the one that you like the looks of the most! :)
Very good review of the Rebel and as always awesome flying. I had an identical nose break on my Dart XL last week except mine was during launch. Totally my fault though as I didn't throw it hard enough and had to little throttle. Glued it back together and went on to make a great flight with it a couple days later. I really do like the new Zohd products.
Thank you! Yes... very good products recently, and good flyers! For all the whiners... there are 100 other people that love their planes and are very happy with how they fly!
This is an odd question but what capture and render settings do you use for the Runcam 3s? I dont mind the camera but every time i render and upload i get a blurry mess
Hello, quick question on how you tuned the roll axis. At 6:44 i can see the slight jitter on the roll axis, which is identical to what i am facing with my DART XL. I have tried tuning without luck. where you able to tune out the jitter? and how ? or is it not realistic to expect a smooth flying plane with current flight controller technology ? i am using Matek F722-Wing with Inav latest version, and i have done the recommended tuning by the developer.
Well that is a result of moving so close to the clouds and getting in and out of thermals, and small vortexes around the edge of the clouds... have not tried to tune any further! Not sure you can really tune that out to be perfectly smooth... servos are not that quick to react!
@@RaedAdlouni Well... even drone motors can't do it... even drones shake around... that is why you use a gimbal to stabilise the camera, and in recent years... a camera with good image stabilisation, just in case installing a gimbal is not practical!
@@ArxangelRC under same wind conditions, a racing drone video feed is way more stable than a wing video feed, which means either motors are way more faster to respond, or there is something else at play here.
@@RaedAdlouni Well... that is true... but think about how much less of a surface area does that racing copter have, compared to... any airplane really!!! Also... even the surface that it has... which is mostly the props, is a dynamic surface which lets air through! All of that means that wing will not be affecting it quite as much as plane, especially at the weight of these copters! Also, quite often these people fly with cameras with pretty good image stabilisation... so that does play a big role too!
I made a DTFB clone of the Rebel GT (search FliteTest forums for Galleon DT(FB)) and used the same Turnigy SK3 motor you ended up with. I think I'm going to copy your power setup as I am currently flying 3S with an 8x4.5 prop. You're using 4S and an 8x8 speed prop? Doesn't that make the SK3 want to melt with its stated 175W power limit?
I learned a long time ago not to believe these specs! The motor comes down cold... besides... it is lower Kv than the stock... should be able to spin the prop without much issue! On some planes I am running motors way outside recommended specs, and no problems at all... because that happens only during take off for a few secs, and during fast climbs... but in any case I have not had any issues! On my 3" racing copter I am running the motors on 4S without any problem for many races now... and officially they are rated only up to 3S... and yet they have been solid as a rock so far!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... you are kidding, right? There is barely any traffic in the whole country... and least of all around the mountain there where we fly! This is not the US or western Europe....
ArxangelRC Just curious. I fly drones and also light aircraft. In my country, there are regulations for both, where drones have a max altitude and aircrafts have minimum altitude, for obvious reasons.
Nobody flies around there... and nobody observes those rules... least of all the light aircraft! Furthermore... the chances of anything happening so high up there, and not close to the ground are even smaller!!!!
I have no idea... I have the oldest X9D and still use it, and love it, and see no reason to replace it other than "this other stuff is new and shiny"... which is not a good enough reason for me! :P The Radiomaster is a multiprotocol radio though, so could be a bit more useful!
What was the total travelled distance with the liion? I really want to buy a plane capable of a 60km with allowance for wind since the mission is over the water. Great video as always!
Well, mine came out to 1255grams AUW... not sure how much more you can load it up, but I assume it should be able to take another 150-200 grams AUW... but speed would also have to increase a bit!
I'm Sure you know if ca was used 4 repairs they would be more or less invisible to the naked eye, 👍 not to mention I believe that it makes the foam actually a little stronger wherever it's applied, N I REALLY LOVE THIS FOAM! Also well yes you want a bit slow and it stalled that's not in my opinion the main reason for what happened I believe it's a due to the fact that It has a little hook on the front for making a vortex and it works great for flying.. Lol but not for those pesky tips stalls into the Earth, ps it stalled luckily at a few inches as mentioned good one. I belive it stalls at 23 or 28 I was told by Ari and it's definitely my fav wing atm!! love your review keep up the GREAT WORK 👊🙏👍
Hahahahaha... well... makes it easier to scoop air for the cooling... but still could have done without that sharp edge! A more rounded form would have scooted air as well... but wouldn't eat dirt on every such landing!
Hello! Could expand on the CG adjustments? You mentioned that you moved the CG 1cm behind the factory CG marks under the wings? Could you please quickly explain what flight characteristics did you noticed improvements on following the CG change?
Too nose heavy other wise! Moving it a bit to the back makes the plane more neutral and a bit more floaty, allowing you to slow it down a bit more for landings, and also not to come in at such steep angles because of the heavy nose!
Not quite! The correct CG point is only 1, regardless of what you have in the plane! You just aim to balance at that point! Autopilot, battery and camera are just things you can move around to achieve that!
Get some E6000 Adhesive. It is literally bombproof and will bond anything to anything lol not only that but it is slightly soft so you can use it to fix things in place and then if that thing breaks you can cut it away with a hobby knife. It take 24 hours to cure but has the look of hot glue with the bond of superglue... for $9 it is easily the most useful and valuable tool in my hobby box
Thank you! Yes... could very well be... not mine... but I've ridden on it... beast of a scooter! And this one is tuned and has an Akrapovic exhaust... crazy stuff!
All depends on the type of plane you are flying. There is also the skill level. Some pilots can fly some planes in pretty much anything. Others, like new pilots, can't fly some light planes in anything more than a gentle breeze.
@Collins: yeah... as slow as usual... I do buy a lot there, and have rarely had any issues... and when I've had some, they have been quickly resolved! Other people have had less than good experiences there... really not sure why things vary so much with these guys! I generally like them!
Great vid!! deff recommend to all motor swap from any first batch funny I was going to use the same motor u have!!! I'm using the sunnysky V3 1250kv, should I switch? Mine hauls but I don't know if I'm doing 150 or more?
@@ArxangelRC true it's definitely a good motor I get worried though because I have seen I believe Bonafide pirate take one apart and it appeared to have almost no glue on the magnets and we didn't know if this was intentional or an accident or if it's a new kind of glue either way my whole point is that when doing long-range flights like this plan is intended for, I'm the type that wants to make sure that everything is perfect because I don't want to lose it a mile out especially a plane as nice as this all my best
Well... a mile is hardly long range... but I do get your point! Doesn't hurt to have a spare... or to check it if you are unsure! I am certain SunnySky will sort them out! 1 mile out you have a good chance to recover it... 20kms out... starts to get tricky! :)
@@ArxangelRC lolol to true when only on 5.8 and 2.4 anything more starts to give a little pucker hahah and its already been sorted I belive. I'll rephrase, if I'm running my crossfire and 5 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico I would hate to throw a magnet or more and I had no prior warning mind we're not getting warm it just let go of three within a few maybe 30 seconds or more and each one made a very funny sound I've been meaning to upload it so that people can recognize it and I'm very lucky I was even able to land safely at my local park, not to at all take anything away from this aircraft worth every penny and that I'm in love with. I get it these things happen when you develop new stuff I think people understand that also, mostly. keep up the great work my friend u rock
Yeah, what Weaven said! Basically you need to know the aircraft, and you need to know the conditions! You also need larger props for larger altitudes if that is the goal! I think at a hobby level... 7km are achievable... but it will get hard after that... if not impossible!
Aye champ .. how's it goin? Just a heads up the links provided don't open. Your channel and reviews are, as always, superb and require our support. Hope all is well as I've been FPV MIA. Cheers bro.
@@jaydenblain3599 Well... that would depend on a number of factors, but the Talon GT I would say has a better chance of staying for a bit longer in the air, though in my tests they have generally gotten about the same flight times with the same battery, +/- a few mins.
No, I don't use airspeed sensors on the Ardu builds... BUT, the ArduPlane code has an algorithm for roughly estimating that as you circle around, and by the amount the plane gets knocked about, it calculates a rough estimate of the wind speed and its direction!
@@ArxangelRC have you ever made a comparison between the calculated and pitot - airspeeds? I've crashed my FX79 because of a stall. Airspeed got too low and GPS speed doesn't indicate that. Now I'm looking for an airspeed indicator
@@derschmittlock1816 What flight controller are you using? I have not done a comparison, because I've never had an issue from not using an airspeed sensor, but I guess in some circumstances it can be a slight issue!
Thank you! Well.. because I don't see the point in spending more money on this, where I don't need anything more than what this can provide! I use 3 flight modes, and only require a reliable RTH and an OSD! The F4 is $22 and does all this... and in my experience flawlessly for now on so many models!!! :) Will probably try one of those fancier boards at some point, when I actually need it.
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If you put iNav or ArduPlane capable controller in it, yes you can! But that goes for almost every other plane out there! The autopilot is the thing that determines which ground software is compatible!
Way late comment here but I've noticed EPP is softer and doesn't deform like EPO but I noticed it seems to take damage on the cells each crash so the first few or even 10 hard landings might be uneventful but the 11th hard landing might even be the softest of all but still damage the remaining cells and finally result in an obvious crack. Basically it doesn't deform but EPP still gets injured and weakened and one day will break and chunks will fly lol.
@@ArxangelRC not with zohd in particular just epp in general. It just seems to behave like fiberglass to me. Strong on a couple good hits but hit the same area enough times and all the stress cracks connect and chunks fly. Apparently all reputable youtubers have had the gripe with zohd foam being brittle. Small caveat I guess for what zohd offers everywhere else. I've been too cheap to spring the extra cash for a Zohd airframe. I do own two AR 900's tho. That's pretty close.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Well actually the ZOHD planes are made with some different EPP from the standard EPP that was used up until they showed up! The regular EPP, like what still some flying wings use, and the HobbyKing Bonsai and TekSumo were made out of is actually not stiff! It is a bit softer than EPO, not as smooth, but it had the added benefit of being very elastic... meaning... it was hard to cut even with a sharp knife, and could take a lot of abuse before showing any marks on it!
Hmmmm... can't be certain if its injection moulded though! The ZOHD one is for sure, but the thing the TekSumo was made from... might have been cut... because of all the straight lines and shapes, no difficult shapes... older planes made from this were the same... straight pieces of this glued together... did not look injection moulded!
Hi, my talon got rebel is running a matek f405 board whit arduplane firmware, everything works beautifully, gps, compass, telemetry, osd, rx and stabilization when on the ground, but as I trow it in the air it has a strong tendency to go right, and in stabilize mode it will force it to stall and then it will go straight to the ground, so I can't eaven turn on the auto tune, because it will crash in 30 sec. Can someone help me?
@@ArxangelRC I tried using the mg90d, it didn't fit, the height was right but the fin hole was 3mm higher. I'm using an Emax Es08MDII it fits in a bit of space of about 1mm. I'm currently waiting surpass hobby 9g s0009m, I think it will fit without space. Banggood team inform to use hd mkii 9g metal gear but this servo is very hard to find with friendly price here.
@@fntasticHijack I think the ZOHD servos are sold as spare parts too, so that is always an option! No chance to cut an opening for the fins where the servos mount, so you can install any servo in there?
Did you just stay you got 15km running 200mw output on your R9??? Man im starting to believe I got a Damaged R9.... I have tried EVERYTHING to get that kind of range and im still getting random failsafes inside of 2km.... New firmware, nwe antennas, new RX's, FLEX firmware, 3 different antenna configurations, upgraded R9TX antenna, you name it, ive tried it... ughh
If you check some of his other vids he has flights over 25km with the R9. Also saw he has other vids talking about his ground stations that might be worth checking out. While all this is very impressive, what blows my mind is he still has a viewable osd at those ranges. I just had a 2019 R9 version and Crossfire come in so pretty excited to do some testing myself.
@@ArxangelRC I no longer use the flex firmware but i did try it in my quest to stabilize the performance of the system. I am 99% it is a faulty module now thanks to some testing done with a friends tx module so im just going to see if the company i bought it from will help me with a warrantee claim... if not well.. ive wanted an exscuse to buy crossfire anyways lol
Very good review, like the bit at 2.07 when the plane builds itself lol, still think these are to fragile, and that an Ewings Vortiguant would be a better choice
Nice review 👍👌😊 consider reviewing Sonic model HD wing I hear it is good for long-range FPV flying and when you do that review what motors and prop combinations you use or recommend for high efficiency flying 😁😎
Enjoyed your video, but the shaking was way annoying, you played it off but what's the point of 4K if you get motion sickness in viewing it & the circle in the view of the camera was not helping. Strapping a late to the action camera show DJI is a fix but not a good look.
Well... we will see about the look! Around clouds it usually is not smooth... at least not directly close to them, as I was flying some of the time! If I want it smooth... I have to get away from the mountain peak, and a bit away from the clouds... and that is just boring! I think the Osmo will give some good results... but I guess I will know for sure when I get it and try it! Also... they might be late... but this is only their first attempt... and knowing DJI... their second, hopefully, will be markedly better!
@@johngutierrez4688 With silicon spray? Hmmmm... no idea if that would actually do anything! What spray is that? I've not seen such a thing around where I live!
Screw aerodynamics, and physics! this model is fine, just a long as you know it's limitations... ok, well, everyone can have their opinion, and there are lots of different reasons for liking a certain model. let's not forget that facts are fact, however when it comes to the fundmentals. not for me, but if someone likes this, they should go have fun with it regardless!
It is fun regardless of the fundamentals... we are not talking about super serious civil aviation here... but a hobby grade model for fun! :P Looks do matter, regardless of the fundamentals... especially at this scale, and it is sort of like the Cyber Truck of hobby grade airplanes! :P
I just love tec. this LITTLE ELECTRIC PLANE RIGHT HERE JUST MIGHT GET THIS OLD RC FLYER OF AIR PLANE'S SINCE I WAS 11'HALF 'YR'S OLD.FROM THE FIRST 2 ONES I GOT ONE SMALL ONE AND THE VERY BIG ONE WITH A SPARK PLUG IN THAT Very BIG GAS POWERED MOTOR. THESE ELECTRIC ONES IVE NOT TRYED OUT SINCE I STOPPED FLYING THE GAS POWERED ONES .BUT IM ALWAYS WILLING TO GIVE ONE OF THE ELECTRIC ONES A TRY.WHEN I SEE ONE THAT JUST MAKE ME START TO FLY RC PLANES AGAIN THAT ARE JUST SIMPLE AND JUST FUN TO FLY AND DONT BREAK PEOPLE'S BANK.
hahaa that's so cool! "Hey i saw a mountain out there. lets just go and visit", so sponteneous instead of planning for it. haha So are those 2 planes from the same company? look so identical
Did you test the range of the frsky r9 system? I have the L9r on my talon gt on one of the wings but it’s too bulky and the plane rolls hard when in manual mode because of the drag, so was thinking of getting the r9mm as it’s really light and small
What a refreshing review. Love the comments about get to know the limitations of your model and each model has different characteristics. You showed what the model is capable of doing. which all reviews should be about .
Thank you! :)
@@ArxangelRCnice video! I have a question: can you program such an aircraft so that it flies a certain trajectory autonomously after take-off and returns autonomously to the starting point at a certain battery level? So you can concentrate on filming.
@@thomaskerpen840 Yes, you can, although concentrating on filming would indicate you have a pan/tilt camera mount, or a gimbal of some sort, which can be controlled and rotated Independent of the aircraft.
@@ArxangelRC thx 🙏 How long can an aircraft like this circle in orbit if it always flies in circles on autopilot?
@@thomaskerpen840 Depends on the plane! Can go from 20 mins to a few hours! It all depends on the size and type of the plane!
Ooooh, i just wish somebody would make a review of Sonicmodel HD wing (1200mm) in SUCH quality like you do all these reviews!! You are the best and honest reviewer out there! Well done!
Thanks mate! Not the biggest fan of wings though... especially the big ones! :S
Yeah man
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Best Honest Review I Have Seen On This Plane. Great Job. Can't wait for the Kit Version.
Thank you! Not sure if there will be a kit, but spare parts are available ( bit.ly/TGT-spares )... and I think you can put together the whole plane... could be about as much as the PNP though!!! I do hope they come out with a KIT version.... but in my view the electronics in there are good enough for me personally not to want to replace anything before flight!
Your viewers trust you and trust your opinion, that's what we keep watching your videos. As for myself I trust every bit of information that is being said by you Mate... KEEP IT UP
Thanks for the vote of confidence mate! Really appreciate it!
Thankyou for this and the comparison to the Dart XL, I look forward to a video on your autopilot and setup. Brilliant review and I love the rant, u had me in stitches, keep up the great work :)
Haha, thanks mate! Will do!
Hahaha my friend, that John seems to have seriously pissed you off ! Well...don't listen to these pricks, the internet is full of them. Know that 99,9 % of people watching your videos appreciate them to the fullest ! Thanks for all your hard work, it is very valuable ! Filip
I HATE JOHN
Hahahahaha, thanks guys! No, he hasn't pissed me off... but some people come to me and tell me I say good things about this and that only because it was sent for review for free... and it is not my honest opinion, because this or that guy said there were some problems... and hence I must be lying... but at no time do they think this guy might not be completely in the know of the capabilities of the plane and/or is trying to use it in the wrong way!
One of best ever reviews I saw. Thanks.
Thank you! :)
I love the comments you had about crashing, really good!
Haha, thanks! :)
I know you made this video a few years ago but I'm just getting into the Hobby and I love your videos!
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :)
Very good and detailed review, always enjoy your narration.
Thank you! Turned out a bit long though!
Great review, it is an excellent plane, I doubt I'll have time to fly anything else now... I just made a carry case, so it'll be going places in the car for
some more adventurous FPV. I did a few mods to mine that have stopped the digging in, and I tape laminated the tail skeg, It's had several slams, but no
major foam breaks yet. Posting mods and build on RCG.
Cheers, and thanks for another inspiring video.
Thank you! I might try to figure something out for the sharp chin thing... we will see! :)
Thank you for a most professional and helpful review
Thank you! You are welcome!
Just put mine together and used a clear laminating film on the lower wing fins and durability increased significantly. Just need to be careful heating the laminate; the foam seems to melt at a lower temp than other epp I’ve worked with
Good to know! I ran out of laminating film a long time ago... but perhaps it might be time to source some more for some random projects! No my favourite job though!
Another fair review of the aircraft. Love your narration and knowledge of the product.
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :)
These were on sale last night on the uk banggood site for £100, only two left so i bought them both. Hell of a steal. Cant wait to get it in the air
Damn! Good deal! Good luck!
ventrals are a very good stabilizer for yaw axis. It is necessary to lift the back end of the plane to prevent damaging them on landings.
Yeah... lifting the back end means nosing it in... and that nose does like to dig in! :D
foam does not break when it hits and compress, it breaks when it decompress; its traction forces what breaks foam; as much elastic, much damage for decompression; carbon fiber strips are good to protect the foam, but, if you cover the foam with packing tape, you will also protect it from traction forces, preventing decompression, and will save some grams of weight :)
Yup, that is true... but... if it can't break and move away from the impact, because it is covered in tape... it will squish and wrinkle... not sure which is worse!
Good stuff, and very well spoken truths toward the end! lol
He nailed it!
Thanks guys! :)
Thank you for the reassurance about crashing these things! I just did my first flight last weekend and managed to nosedive in the parking lot in 3 minutes flat🤣🤣🤣 I was feeling pretty bummy until this. Thanks!
Damn... is it totalled?
It's a little Ak800 but I bent the nose, crushed the prop, bent the spindle on the motor, busted the canopy and split a wing about 1/3rd through. 😂 Actually, not as bad as it sounds. Fixed the wing and motor and now I'm straightening the nose and making a fpv cockpit 👍
OK, seems like you will get it back to flying condition! :)
Maybe laminate the bottom stab fins? Great review and such good news a company is actually doing some testing. It'll be cool to see what mods pilots come up with on Thingiverse this summer.I'd expect to see a smoothed out nose cap, similar to ones printed for the Drak line. Bad aerodynamics aside, I think you showed the other primary disadvantage to a belly landing plane with a shovel shaped nose. It's doing exactly what you'd expect. Now that we know this (thanks to your flights) maybe they'll make an design change? Don't apologize for long videos! I love this format! Well done. Looking forward to your Flight Controller video. I know you've done a lot of these but it's cool to see new ideas on wiring all of this together. We all sortof change how we do it with each model, at least I do. Cheers from North Carolina!
Thanks mate, appreciate it! Yes... they could rework the nose section for the next iteration... would talk to them about that... but seeing how they go about these... with so much research, etc., they do claim a real airplane engineer had something to do with the design of the plane... and perhaps that could explain why the air intake is there... he doesn't really design full size airplanes to belly land... so he could put the intake anywhere! :)
Keep it up man I really like your reviews. Don’t listen to the haters!
I am not... just clarifying stuff! Thank you! :)
You are part of those reviewers that always enjoy the stuff they receive because the system works by you selling items thorough affiliate links. This way you can't make critics if you want to receive new stuff. It sucks that all reviews have become this way
I've been gluing milk jug plastic to the belly of my planes for ages, it's crazy that so many belly landers have no protection and good to see it on this one
Indeed! That is a good idea actually... might have to try it out!
@@ArxangelRC because milk jug plastic is HDPE, I always score the glued side in a diamond pattern to give the glue something better to bond too, I score at an angle so the blade creates a lip for the glue to get under and grip rather than just a straight score.
It has been saving the underside of my planes for a long while now :)
Sounds good mate! Problem is... these jugs are hard to find around here... but I should be able to adapt something else with relative ease! :)
@@ArxangelRC does your milk not come in plastic jugs in your country?
Here in the UK almost everyone buys there milk in 4 or 6 pint (3.4L) plastic jugs from the supermarket and almost nobody gets there milk delivered.
Whilst your here, in your videos you sometimes mention a mini APM, when you mention that f
Do you mean the actual mini APM or do you mean the APM Pro?
Not really... in 1l plastic or cardboard boxes! I mean the Micro APM 3.1 for instance... youtube doesn't allow me to add links here for some reason! :(
Thank you for professional and helpful review!
You are welcome! :)
Hey, I know that its an older video, but im just getting back to FPV in general. I'm deciding between the dart XL or this one, both the same price (about 110€ from banggood as a kit), which one would you pick for medium range FPV flying (2-4km, maybe even long range if Ill have the balls for it)? I'm more of a cruiser guy, but would like to try a V-tail. Is the dart a better option as its more stabile and a better cruiser or should I give the talon a shot?
Well, both are good! V-tail makes no real difference in how the plane feels from an FPV point of view... soooooo... I'd say get the one that you like the looks of the most! :)
@@ArxangelRC Thank you!
@@domzyorgon You are welcome! :)
Great!!! Congrats!!! I could not said any better!
Haha, thanks Paun! :)
Nice review! I think indeed the foam is pretty fragile to break so easily near the ground. Btw, did you use 1200mW setting on the VTX?
Yes, 1200mW setting on the Vtx! Didn't burn out, so I guess there is some good air flow on the inside where I have mounted it!
Not sure I want to do mods like this!
Very good review of the Rebel and as always awesome flying. I had an identical nose break on my Dart XL last week except mine was during launch. Totally my fault though as I didn't throw it hard enough and had to little throttle. Glued it back together and went on to make a great flight with it a couple days later. I really do like the new Zohd products.
Thank you! Yes... very good products recently, and good flyers! For all the whiners... there are 100 other people that love their planes and are very happy with how they fly!
This is an odd question but what capture and render settings do you use for the Runcam 3s? I dont mind the camera but every time i render and upload i get a blurry mess
Capture... not really sure... the standard I guess... 1080p at 60fps. Rendering is done at 4k 25fps... have never had issues!
great idea for next DIY project! thanks for review
You are welcome!
What a cool video! This ia the third time watching and it is still not boring!
Haha, thanks mate, appreciate it! :)
Hello, quick question on how you tuned the roll axis. At 6:44 i can see the slight jitter on the roll axis, which is identical to what i am facing with my DART XL. I have tried tuning without luck. where you able to tune out the jitter? and how ? or is it not realistic to expect a smooth flying plane with current flight controller technology ? i am using Matek F722-Wing with Inav latest version, and i have done the recommended tuning by the developer.
Well that is a result of moving so close to the clouds and getting in and out of thermals, and small vortexes around the edge of the clouds... have not tried to tune any further! Not sure you can really tune that out to be perfectly smooth... servos are not that quick to react!
@@ArxangelRC thanks, yes you cannot expect servos to react as quickly as drone motors.
@@RaedAdlouni Well... even drone motors can't do it... even drones shake around... that is why you use a gimbal to stabilise the camera, and in recent years... a camera with good image stabilisation, just in case installing a gimbal is not practical!
@@ArxangelRC under same wind conditions, a racing drone video feed is way more stable than a wing video feed, which means either motors are way more faster to respond, or there is something else at play here.
@@RaedAdlouni Well... that is true... but think about how much less of a surface area does that racing copter have, compared to... any airplane really!!! Also... even the surface that it has... which is mostly the props, is a dynamic surface which lets air through! All of that means that wing will not be affecting it quite as much as plane, especially at the weight of these copters! Also, quite often these people fly with cameras with pretty good image stabilisation... so that does play a big role too!
I made a DTFB clone of the Rebel GT (search FliteTest forums for Galleon DT(FB)) and used the same Turnigy SK3 motor you ended up with. I think I'm going to copy your power setup as I am currently flying 3S with an 8x4.5 prop. You're using 4S and an 8x8 speed prop? Doesn't that make the SK3 want to melt with its stated 175W power limit?
I learned a long time ago not to believe these specs! The motor comes down cold... besides... it is lower Kv than the stock... should be able to spin the prop without much issue! On some planes I am running motors way outside recommended specs, and no problems at all... because that happens only during take off for a few secs, and during fast climbs... but in any case I have not had any issues! On my 3" racing copter I am running the motors on 4S without any problem for many races now... and officially they are rated only up to 3S... and yet they have been solid as a rock so far!
Great report, please keep the good work up!!!
Thank you! Will do! :)
The crash honesty gets a 10/10
Haha, thanks, but it wasn't that spectacular! :)
How do you coordinate with private and other light aircraft pilots? Do you use a radio?
Smoke signals
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... you are kidding, right? There is barely any traffic in the whole country... and least of all around the mountain there where we fly! This is not the US or western Europe....
ArxangelRC Just curious. I fly drones and also light aircraft. In my country, there are regulations for both, where drones have a max altitude and aircrafts have minimum altitude, for obvious reasons.
Nobody flies around there... and nobody observes those rules... least of all the light aircraft! Furthermore... the chances of anything happening so high up there, and not close to the ground are even smaller!!!!
There needs to be a landing gear kit for these planes. Currently looking for other options because I want landing gear.
Out of topic question but want to ask
Which one is better radio ???frsky x9d+ or radiomaster t16s??
I have no idea... I have the oldest X9D and still use it, and love it, and see no reason to replace it other than "this other stuff is new and shiny"... which is not a good enough reason for me! :P The Radiomaster is a multiprotocol radio though, so could be a bit more useful!
What was the total travelled distance with the liion? I really want to buy a plane capable of a 60km with allowance for wind since the mission is over the water. Great video as always!
It did about 50kms on 5000mAh out of the pack! If your pack is in the 7000mAh range... you should be good! That is at my weight and on 4S though!
@@ArxangelRC Thank you for the response, I will look into this model for the future!
You are welcome! :)
no info in specks about rtf Weight and fully loaded Weight
Well, mine came out to 1255grams AUW... not sure how much more you can load it up, but I assume it should be able to take another 150-200 grams AUW... but speed would also have to increase a bit!
I just love your reviews!!!!👍👍👍
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :)
Nice review, I also have a Talon GT, do you find the talon flies fine with a 18650 4s2p liion battery?
Yes, I am flying with such a battery and it is handling it very well!
@@ArxangelRC Can you advise me a bigger motor than the original? I wanted to use a 2814 motor but the mount patterns aren't compatible
Thanks for sharing this video! Great video review! Very interesting and informative video!
Thank you! Glad you like it! :)
When people from other countries use American slang it is funny 15:55 glad to see you are in a better mood than two videos ago:)
Hahahaha
I'm Sure you know if ca was used 4 repairs they would be more or less invisible to the naked eye, 👍 not to mention I believe that it makes the foam actually a little stronger wherever it's applied, N I REALLY LOVE THIS FOAM! Also well yes you want a bit slow and it stalled that's not in my opinion the main reason for what happened I believe it's a due to the fact that It has a little hook on the front for making a vortex and it works great for flying.. Lol but not for those pesky tips stalls into the Earth, ps it stalled luckily at a few inches as mentioned good one. I belive it stalls at 23 or 28 I was told by Ari and it's definitely my fav wing atm!! love your review keep up the GREAT WORK 👊🙏👍
Thank you! :)
@@ArxangelRC edited I misspelled to say the least lol
No worries! :)
Which current gimbal would you recommend for a skywalker fpv plateform? The feiyu tech mini 3d is not available anymore, thanks!
I have used this one with very good results on my MFD Crosswind: bit.ly/T3D-gimbal
I would love to have the KIT version of this.
Fingers crossed there is one!
Which transports better in the car? Dart XL or Talon XL?
Hmmm... well... they are both about the same size... but I'd say the GT is a bit less bulky!
Foam Tack Glue works great
No idea IF we have it around here, and it is surely not called this way! :)
I think if it didn't have a chin like an excavator bucket it probably wouldn't have broken there - what is the point of that I wonder.
Yeah, sharp edge to dig in, instead of a nice radius....Makes you wonder eh..?
Hahahahaha... well... makes it easier to scoop air for the cooling... but still could have done without that sharp edge! A more rounded form would have scooted air as well... but wouldn't eat dirt on every such landing!
@@ArxangelRC seems like the cooling entry could go at the top rather than bottom
Yup! Have asked about this... waiting for a reply! :D
Nice, But Why Don't You Also 3mic or 2x Layers Of 1.5mic Clear Hot Wrap Your Planes For More Strength & Waterproofing Slick Skin!? Thanks
Weeeeell... back in the day I laminated a few Ranger EX planes and Raptors... kinda lost the enthusiasm then... :D
Hello! Could expand on the CG adjustments? You mentioned that you moved the CG 1cm behind the factory CG marks under the wings? Could you please quickly explain what flight characteristics did you noticed improvements on following the CG change?
Too nose heavy other wise! Moving it a bit to the back makes the plane more neutral and a bit more floaty, allowing you to slow it down a bit more for landings, and also not to come in at such steep angles because of the heavy nose!
ArxangelRC , so in your case with flight controller, battery and cameras you moved the CG back by about 1cm?
Not quite! The correct CG point is only 1, regardless of what you have in the plane! You just aim to balance at that point! Autopilot, battery and camera are just things you can move around to achieve that!
I’m tempted to buy a kit version of this lol but I have my trusty Nano Talon Evo that just won’t break once laminated
Haha, true! But this one is worth it for sure!
Get some E6000 Adhesive. It is literally bombproof and will bond anything to anything lol not only that but it is slightly soft so you can use it to fix things in place and then if that thing breaks you can cut it away with a hobby knife. It take 24 hours to cure but has the look of hot glue with the bond of superglue... for $9 it is easily the most useful and valuable tool in my hobby box
Will have to look into this! Our options around here are kinda limited!
I admire your courage ; ) That a TMAX in the background?
Thank you! Yes... could very well be... not mine... but I've ridden on it... beast of a scooter! And this one is tuned and has an Akrapovic exhaust... crazy stuff!
@@ArxangelRC Ha! "Beast" and "scooter" don't usually find themselves in the same sentence ; ) Akrapovic exhausts sound awesome on just about anything
Well... they do when this has been the first ride on a motorcycle in your life! :D
@@ArxangelRC So, no longer a virgin. Had to happen sometime ; )
Hahaha, indeed!
Hi sir can you pz tell me that in max how much wind speed can we fly an rc wing
All depends on the type of plane you are flying. There is also the skill level. Some pilots can fly some planes in pretty much anything. Others, like new pilots, can't fly some light planes in anything more than a gentle breeze.
Again... what Weaven said!
How long does it take for banggood take to deliver the plane and is it a reliable site to buy stuff 😬
@Collins: yeah... as slow as usual... I do buy a lot there, and have rarely had any issues... and when I've had some, they have been quickly resolved! Other people have had less than good experiences there... really not sure why things vary so much with these guys! I generally like them!
Do you know of any fly away issues with kopiolt?
Hard to say! Personally I haven't experienced any, can't exactly recall if I've read other people complaining about it!
Great vid!! deff recommend to all motor swap from any first batch funny I was going to use the same motor u have!!!
I'm using the sunnysky V3 1250kv, should I switch? Mine hauls but I don't know if I'm doing 150 or more?
I'd say keep the stock motor if its still good... and just put a higher pitch prop!
@@ArxangelRC true it's definitely a good motor I get worried though because I have seen I believe Bonafide pirate take one apart and it appeared to have almost no glue on the magnets and we didn't know if this was intentional or an accident or if it's a new kind of glue either way my whole point is that when doing long-range flights like this plan is intended for, I'm the type that wants to make sure that everything is perfect because I don't want to lose it a mile out especially a plane as nice as this all my best
Well... a mile is hardly long range... but I do get your point! Doesn't hurt to have a spare... or to check it if you are unsure! I am certain SunnySky will sort them out! 1 mile out you have a good chance to recover it... 20kms out... starts to get tricky! :)
@@ArxangelRC lolol to true when only on 5.8 and 2.4 anything more starts to give a little pucker hahah and its already been sorted I belive. I'll rephrase, if I'm running my crossfire and 5 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico I would hate to throw a magnet or more and I had no prior warning mind we're not getting warm it just let go of three within a few maybe 30 seconds or more and each one made a very funny sound I've been meaning to upload it so that people can recognize it and I'm very lucky I was even able to land safely at my local park, not to at all take anything away from this aircraft worth every penny and that I'm in love with. I get it these things happen when you develop new stuff I think people understand that also, mostly. keep up the great work my friend u rock
Well... SunnySky make the motor and they know how to do that... should not be anything revolutionary... this is a rookie mistake!
And sir also plz tell that how to predict max altitude of an rc wing before flying it and how to increase it and your content is always the best
This answer comes with time in the hobby. No easy answer that I know of.
Yeah, what Weaven said! Basically you need to know the aircraft, and you need to know the conditions! You also need larger props for larger altitudes if that is the goal! I think at a hobby level... 7km are achievable... but it will get hard after that... if not impossible!
Aye champ .. how's it goin? Just a heads up the links provided don't open. Your channel and reviews are, as always, superb and require our support. Hope all is well as I've been FPV MIA. Cheers bro.
Thanks mate appreciate it! Which links do not open? They all worked when I checked them?
What goggle setup are you running?
Not using goggles... I use a monitor!
hello, im having wobbly flights, unstable in turns. Can you post your inav dump?
I do not have an iNav dump... because I am running ArduPlane in this one!
Which would you say has the better flight time?
Which what?
@@ArxangelRC sorry, talon gt rebel or dart xl
@@jaydenblain3599 Well... that would depend on a number of factors, but the Talon GT I would say has a better chance of staying for a bit longer in the air, though in my tests they have generally gotten about the same flight times with the same battery, +/- a few mins.
Great video and nice review
Thank you! :)
Do you need to buy cameras or controller for it
Well yes, PNP option comes with all electronics needed to fly, but no video or autopilot gear, or radio control gear!
Good review, enjoyed it
Thank you! :)
I AGREE WITH JOHN!!! LOL just kidding couldn't help myself.
Thanks for all you do I love your work
Hahahahahaha, thanks mate! :)
i like your high altitude flights
have you ever spotted any planes up there ?
Thanks! Nope... like I keep saying... piloted aircraft at these altitudes are are like Dodo birds... pretty much extinct! :D
how do you throw it without clipping your hands?
Well the prop does not stick out too much... and it is just a reflex I have to quickly move my hand down and out of the way on such models!
Hi, how did you measure the windspeed ? is there a pitot-tube installed?
No, I don't use airspeed sensors on the Ardu builds... BUT, the ArduPlane code has an algorithm for roughly estimating that as you circle around, and by the amount the plane gets knocked about, it calculates a rough estimate of the wind speed and its direction!
@@ArxangelRC have you ever made a comparison between the calculated and pitot - airspeeds?
I've crashed my FX79 because of a stall. Airspeed got too low and GPS speed doesn't indicate that. Now I'm looking for an airspeed indicator
@@derschmittlock1816 What flight controller are you using? I have not done a comparison, because I've never had an issue from not using an airspeed sensor, but I guess in some circumstances it can be a slight issue!
@@ArxangelRC I'm using an omnibus F4 V3
@@derschmittlock1816 Hmmmmm... is there an available port on that controller for an airspeed sensor?
Good review thanks, you use a hold fc on your wing, why don't mount a new matek F722-wing
Thank you! Well.. because I don't see the point in spending more money on this, where I don't need anything more than what this can provide! I use 3 flight modes, and only require a reliable RTH and an OSD! The F4 is $22 and does all this... and in my experience flawlessly for now on so many models!!! :) Will probably try one of those fancier boards at some point, when I actually need it.
Got this plane and watched the video like 5 times since then
OK, so is that good or bad?! 😝
@@ArxangelRC i would see that as a good thing, your review seems to be the best about this plane.
@@ArxangelRC could you please tell me your pids for this plane?
That would be really helpful!
@@trumblez Hey, sorry for the LONG delayer reply... I need to see if I have the param file, can't say for sure.
@@ArxangelRC i dont really need it anymore, im switching to the phoenix 2400, would be better if you had the pifs from the phoenix
💯 I find your information very valuable, thank you for doing what you do!
Some 💩 people just plan old suck as far as the internet world, lots of keyboard commandos! Some probably dont even fly and only wish they can do what you do!
Keep up the great work you do because i know i appreciate it very much!
SEMPER Fi 🐾🐾🐾🖖
Thank you for the kind words! I love what I do, and you can be sure that a bunch of keyboard warriors are not going to ruin that! :)
Nice review. Facts no bullshiting
Thanks! :)
can you use ZOHD with mission planner software?
If you put iNav or ArduPlane capable controller in it, yes you can! But that goes for almost every other plane out there! The autopilot is the thing that determines which ground software is compatible!
Way late comment here but I've noticed EPP is softer and doesn't deform like EPO but I noticed it seems to take damage on the cells each crash so the first few or even 10 hard landings might be uneventful but the 11th hard landing might even be the softest of all but still damage the remaining cells and finally result in an obvious crack. Basically it doesn't deform but EPP still gets injured and weakened and one day will break and chunks will fly lol.
Hmmmm... you basing this on experience? Have not seen this yet! Guess I need to fly these more! :)
@@ArxangelRC not with zohd in particular just epp in general. It just seems to behave like fiberglass to me. Strong on a couple good hits but hit the same area enough times and all the stress cracks connect and chunks fly.
Apparently all reputable youtubers have had the gripe with zohd foam being brittle. Small caveat I guess for what zohd offers everywhere else.
I've been too cheap to spring the extra cash for a Zohd airframe. I do own two AR 900's tho. That's pretty close.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Well actually the ZOHD planes are made with some different EPP from the standard EPP that was used up until they showed up! The regular EPP, like what still some flying wings use, and the HobbyKing Bonsai and TekSumo were made out of is actually not stiff! It is a bit softer than EPO, not as smooth, but it had the added benefit of being very elastic... meaning... it was hard to cut even with a sharp knife, and could take a lot of abuse before showing any marks on it!
@@ArxangelRC i think I know what you mean. I thought that was called injection molded epp. I had the Techone 900 wing made from something like that.
Hmmmm... can't be certain if its injection moulded though! The ZOHD one is for sure, but the thing the TekSumo was made from... might have been cut... because of all the straight lines and shapes, no difficult shapes... older planes made from this were the same... straight pieces of this glued together... did not look injection moulded!
what is that mount you are using for your pagoda antenna
A printed one that I drew up in 1 min for the purpose! Same one as on my Dart XL.
What is the flight time?
Around an hour on 5000mAh out of the 4S battery!
Hi, my talon got rebel is running a matek f405 board whit arduplane firmware, everything works beautifully, gps, compass, telemetry, osd, rx and stabilization when on the ground, but as I trow it in the air it has a strong tendency to go right, and in stabilize mode it will force it to stall and then it will go straight to the ground, so I can't eaven turn on the auto tune, because it will crash in 30 sec.
Can someone help me?
Sooooo... this does not sound normal! Have you tried calibrating the autopilot level?
how heavy is your li iion battery?
Just under 400 grams!
What kind servo and pushrod used in this model? Can i use mg90s?
The stock ones from ZOHD!
@@ArxangelRC I just waiting for kit version, there is without servos and motor nor esc.
@@fntasticHijack Right! Well any 9g size servos would fit it.
@@ArxangelRC I tried using the mg90d, it didn't fit, the height was right but the fin hole was 3mm higher. I'm using an Emax Es08MDII it fits in a bit of space of about 1mm. I'm currently waiting surpass hobby 9g s0009m, I think it will fit without space. Banggood team inform to use hd mkii 9g metal gear but this servo is very hard to find with friendly price here.
@@fntasticHijack I think the ZOHD servos are sold as spare parts too, so that is always an option! No chance to cut an opening for the fins where the servos mount, so you can install any servo in there?
What kind of battery plug it has XT60 or XT90 ?
XT60.
Did you just stay you got 15km running 200mw output on your R9??? Man im starting to believe I got a Damaged R9.... I have tried EVERYTHING to get that kind of range and im still getting random failsafes inside of 2km.... New firmware, nwe antennas, new RX's, FLEX firmware, 3 different antenna configurations, upgraded R9TX antenna, you name it, ive tried it... ughh
If you check some of his other vids he has flights over 25km with the R9. Also saw he has other vids talking about his ground stations that might be worth checking out. While all this is very impressive, what blows my mind is he still has a viewable osd at those ranges. I just had a 2019 R9 version and Crossfire come in so pretty excited to do some testing myself.
See... "FLEX firmware" is where your problem is! I've never tried it and have never had any issues!
@@ArxangelRC I no longer use the flex firmware but i did try it in my quest to stabilize the performance of the system. I am 99% it is a faulty module now thanks to some testing done with a friends tx module so im just going to see if the company i bought it from will help me with a warrantee claim... if not well.. ive wanted an exscuse to buy crossfire anyways lol
Right... well a faulty module could explain it for sure! Sucks... but it does happen sometimes!
Very good review, like the bit at 2.07 when the plane builds itself lol, still think these are to fragile, and that an Ewings Vortiguant would be a better choice
Thanks! Yeah... could be... and yet you do get everything built and ready to go, and don't have fix it out of the box before flight! :)
Okay, I want this one..thank you
Haha, you are welcome! :)
Nice review 👍👌😊 consider reviewing Sonic model HD wing I hear it is good for long-range FPV flying and when you do that review what motors and prop combinations you use or recommend for high efficiency flying 😁😎
Well... I am not generally a fan of wings... and the bigger the get, the more unlikely I am to review them! Not sure about this one... :S
Could be a silly question. Though here goes. Does anyone know the max A draw of gt rebel?
If memory serves... should be just over 30A!
Enjoyed your video, but the shaking was way annoying, you played it off but what's the point of 4K if you get motion sickness in viewing it & the circle in the view of the camera was not helping. Strapping a late to the action camera show DJI is a fix but not a good look.
Well... we will see about the look! Around clouds it usually is not smooth... at least not directly close to them, as I was flying some of the time! If I want it smooth... I have to get away from the mountain peak, and a bit away from the clouds... and that is just boring! I think the Osmo will give some good results... but I guess I will know for sure when I get it and try it! Also... they might be late... but this is only their first attempt... and knowing DJI... their second, hopefully, will be markedly better!
The added weight will make landing a real joy better reinforced the tail section its gonna take a beating.
Well... time will tell! :D
thank you!
You are welcome!
Would a silicon spray on the body help something like?
Help with what?
@@ArxangelRC the durability of the craft. just thinking if it was coating the hull. maybe just to be a little more crash resistance.
I'm new to the in fact I haven't even recieved my radio master tx16s as of yet.
this
Also apparently I don't proof read either. Lol
@@johngutierrez4688 With silicon spray? Hmmmm... no idea if that would actually do anything! What spray is that? I've not seen such a thing around where I live!
Screw aerodynamics, and physics! this model is fine, just a long as you know it's limitations... ok, well, everyone can have their opinion, and there are lots of different reasons for liking a certain model. let's not forget that facts are fact, however when it comes to the fundmentals. not for me, but if someone likes this, they should go have fun with it regardless!
It is fun regardless of the fundamentals... we are not talking about super serious civil aviation here... but a hobby grade model for fun! :P Looks do matter, regardless of the fundamentals... especially at this scale, and it is sort of like the Cyber Truck of hobby grade airplanes! :P
I wondered where you had got to....I see calm air again....has it been windy over there..?....No Videos for some time.
It was very windy even for the maiden! It was a mixture of rain, wind, another project... it was a darn busy time!
I just love tec. this LITTLE ELECTRIC PLANE RIGHT HERE JUST MIGHT GET THIS OLD RC FLYER OF AIR PLANE'S SINCE I WAS 11'HALF 'YR'S OLD.FROM THE FIRST 2 ONES I GOT ONE SMALL ONE AND THE VERY BIG ONE WITH A SPARK PLUG IN THAT Very BIG GAS POWERED MOTOR. THESE ELECTRIC ONES IVE NOT TRYED OUT SINCE I STOPPED FLYING THE GAS POWERED ONES .BUT IM ALWAYS WILLING TO GIVE ONE OF THE ELECTRIC ONES A TRY.WHEN I SEE ONE THAT JUST MAKE ME START TO FLY RC PLANES AGAIN THAT ARE JUST SIMPLE AND JUST FUN TO FLY AND DONT BREAK PEOPLE'S BANK.
Right... I have tried to link something here a few times... youtube just keeps deleting my reply... :(
Nice footage :)
Thank you!
Has anyone laminated or polyd this plane yet? Is it worth doing?
The foam is pretty slick... at least I wouldn't bother with this on this model... too much hassle for little gain I think!
hahaa that's so cool! "Hey i saw a mountain out there. lets just go and visit", so sponteneous instead of planning for it. haha
So are those 2 planes from the same company? look so identical
Yes, they are, the Dart XL is from a few months back, and the Talon GT is the newest model!
Rant is a good one.
:)
Did you test the range of the frsky r9 system? I have the L9r on my talon gt on one of the wings but it’s too bulky and the plane rolls hard when in manual mode because of the drag, so was thinking of getting the r9mm as it’s really light and small
It will do 20kms for sure! Will do that test soon enough!
Very nice video :)
Thanks! :)
4:45 does it is 18650 ?
Yes