One thing that helps Me as a #Lockboss when figuring out WHERE to take a bit off the key to help it fit is Die Bluing. It is a liquid we used to use in my previous Skilled Trades Job to find where things are rubbing. Paint the Liquid on the Key Blank and insert it. When it starts to get tight the Bluing will start to rub off. That would be where you start to grind a bit. Obviously it's not required in your case but it sometimes helps.
Great work Detective #lockboss. It doesn’t surprise me that Masterlock would try to shave down a known key to deter the random copying the key to maintain their “ high security “.
Great #Lockboss information. I had a locking cash bag i gave my mom with no keys. It was unlocked but she asked if I could make a key. No luck on making one but made a temporary jiggler until I could. Idenikey would have been the answer I needed. With the help of CLK. Awesome stuff, guys. 👍
That’s a great #lockboss journey PJ, thanks for sharing it! I’ve had to thin down keys more often than I’d like to admit, especially with cheap knock off padlocks. Surprised you had to do it on this one (branded Master product), but it is what it is! 😂
Always good seeing the troubleshooting process, thanks for bringing us along! I wonder if that lock was supposed to use a standard 1131 key, but maybe was made by a place that didn't quite get the tolerances right, and wound up making it a slightly tighter keyway. #Lockboss
Looking at the thumbnail for the video, all I can this of is the Pokemon meme. “Name that key!” It’s an an American Lock! “It’s a Master Key!” “FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU……..!!!” #LockBoss
BM0048 comes up in Blackhawk. Cuts 3544 on Y6, YA8, 997DB, 10E3R. Please let me know if this is correct, I'm on vacation and it's raining and I have nothing else to do!!
I'm sure master was trying to copy the Arco keyway but just like the cheap offshore knockoffs of the KW1 keyway don't always accept quality KW 1 keys (thus requiring us to use EZ1) so Master is likely trying to use a cheap offshore copy of the Arco key. If the only problem with CO106 is the length, ILCO lists L1003M which is the longer version of CO106. If that works it could save a lot of time.
Thanx for the Video. I have two or three cash bags in the in my lock stash, can't remember if they have keys or not. This may have helped me out #LockBoss
It would be nice to find an actual key that works. I hate giving out keys that look ground down a little. It doesnt look professional, but i guess if it works. #Lockboss
![[1453] VERY Clever “Loki” Puzzle Padlock Solved](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OFvTzppfJnA/mqdefault.jpg)
Turning the lock with a key you code cut or duplicated, nothing is more satisfying feeling it turn..never ever gets old
Right!!! -PJ
Oh yeah, seriously. #LockBoss
A #Lockboss always enjoys a good challenge! Nice job PJ!
Great job PJ. Thanks for sharing this with us. Always great to learn something from your videos
One thing that helps Me as a #Lockboss when figuring out WHERE to take a bit off the key to help it fit is Die Bluing. It is a liquid we used to use in my previous Skilled Trades Job to find where things are rubbing. Paint the Liquid on the Key Blank and insert it. When it starts to get tight the Bluing will start to rub off. That would be where you start to grind a bit. Obviously it's not required in your case but it sometimes helps.
This is great!!! Thx for sharing -PJ
Great detective work PJ, really like seeing more nomad go in action too! #Lockboss
Great work Detective #lockboss. It doesn’t surprise me that Masterlock would try to shave down a known key to deter the random copying the key to maintain their “ high security “.
This was seriously cool. I love doing jobs like this! #LockBoss
That was fun to watch. Nice job PJ! #Lockboss
Great #Lockboss information. I had a locking cash bag i gave my mom with no keys. It was unlocked but she asked if I could make a key. No luck on making one but made a temporary jiggler until I could. Idenikey would have been the answer I needed. With the help of CLK. Awesome stuff, guys. 👍
That bag brings me back to the days of making night deposits, I don’t miss that time in my life #lockboss
This is a great kind of video that I like. Thank you PJ. #Lockboss
Bank bags, gotta love it when folks want extra keys. ;). #Lockboss
Wow That Was Exciting. Now That's What You Call A Goesinta #LockBoss
That’s a great #lockboss journey PJ, thanks for sharing it! I’ve had to thin down keys more often than I’d like to admit, especially with cheap knock off padlocks. Surprised you had to do it on this one (branded Master product), but it is what it is! 😂
For sure!!! -PJ
Using a belt sander may give you a more even cut down #Lockboss.
💯 -PJ
Hence the "smith" in locksmith! #lockboss
Now that’s being a #lockboss
Always good seeing the troubleshooting process, thanks for bringing us along! I wonder if that lock was supposed to use a standard 1131 key, but maybe was made by a place that didn't quite get the tolerances right, and wound up making it a slightly tighter keyway. #Lockboss
Interesting journey to find a key that works! Love it! #Lockboss
Looking at the thumbnail for the video, all I can this of is the Pokemon meme.
“Name that key!”
It’s an an American Lock!
“It’s a Master Key!”
“FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU……..!!!”
#LockBoss
BM0048 comes up in Blackhawk. Cuts 3544 on Y6, YA8, 997DB, 10E3R. Please let me know if this is correct, I'm on vacation and it's raining and I have nothing else to do!!
I'm sure master was trying to copy the Arco keyway but just like the cheap offshore knockoffs of the KW1 keyway don't always accept quality KW 1 keys (thus requiring us to use EZ1) so Master is likely trying to use a cheap offshore copy of the Arco key. If the only problem with CO106 is the length, ILCO lists L1003M which is the longer version of CO106. If that works it could save a lot of time.
Great points! Thx -PJ
I'm glad you showed how to grind down key to make it fit and work. Awesome tutorial #lockboss
Thanks, glad you liked it!! -PJ
Now that is a great video #lockboss
Thinning keys down whenever needed is definitely normal. #Lockboss
Locksmith work looks like you have to be creative and use what you got to make it work. #lockboss
Appreciate your time regarding this, very informative. #Lockboss
Great option to know about #lockboss
I would have thought that look similar to a Sargent & Greenleaf. The key head looks like a MEDCO key for MEDCO lock. #lockboss
Thanx for the Video. I have two or three cash bags in the in my lock stash, can't remember if they have keys or not. This may have helped me out #LockBoss
I was going to say arco key as well because I order my bags from A. Rifkin and that would have been my guess. #Lockboss
I had to modify a master M26 key for a master Loto padlock #Lockboss
Great information. #Lockboss
I would absolutly do it for a customer to get the job done. #LOCKBOSS
Good information to know. #lockboss
My original thought was the Arco Rifkin keys. I wouldn't have expected the Co106. Have you considered the co105 and cut the shoulder back? #lockboss
I did not! But I should have -PJ
Good to know #LOCKBOSS
Arco bank
bag I bet you that's the key with fits it
True #LOCKBOSS
Good video #Lockboss
It would be nice to find an actual key that works. I hate giving out keys that look ground down a little. It doesnt look professional, but i guess if it works. #Lockboss
For sure, the problem is one does not exist -PJ
Wet sand it with some finer grit sandpaper after it's to size to fix the finish #lockboss
Cool #lockboss
Thx #Lockboss
#LOCKBOSS
Never Make Keys For Cash Bag. Learn Have To Make Key For Cash Bag. #lockboss
#lockboss
Do you sell that clam device? #Lockboss
Sure do! Search vise and it will pop up!!! -PJ
#lockboss