Introvert, Social Anxiety, or Depression?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Introvert or social anxiety or depression? In this video, MedCircle host Kyle Kittleson and clinical psychologist Dr. Ramani discuss the psychology of introversion and the differences between an introvert, social anxiety and depression. These are the differences.
Dr. Ramani answers..
What are the differences between being an introvert and depression?
Why do people confuse introverts and those who are sad or depressed in the first place?
What are the differences between being an introvert and social anxiety?
What is one key thing to remember when it comes to being an introvert vs social anxiety?
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I'm kinda introvert and introvert, as well as having depression, ptsd, bpd and anxiety
Dr R is lovely explaining everything
The trait of 'high sensitivity' can influence the development of introversion and also social anxiety, as well as depression. 80% of Highly sensitive people are introverted and more prone to mental illness in response to external factors.
Not all introverts are highly sensitive, but generally they are more sensitive than most extraverts. Dr Elaine Aron has done research and written books on this subject. These differences are related to genes and is apparent in the function and structure of the brain viewed by brain imaging technology.
I think I just realize that I am an extroverted introvert who is severely depressed. Fucking hell.
I don’t think cats are introverted. I think they’re narcissistic bastards!! 🙃
"Introverted, social anxiety or depression?"
Yes
me too yes
I feel you.
I have all of them😃
*Joins the club, from a distance, in bed*
Agreed. Don't forget their cousion burnout.
As an introvert, I've always disliked being described as "shy." It implies that I'm SCARED of you. I'm not! I just like to be turned inward. I'm comfortable that way.
Exactly! I prefer to think of myself as someone who has a very rich inner life.
Shy has become a negative trait in recent years, now it is called socially challenged, or slow to warm.
Right. We are not scared. We would just much rather not talk to you. Lol.
I remember as a kid in grade school, every once in a while i would have teachers that knew exactly what was going on with me. Most teachers loved me because i was quiet, did what i was told, made good grades, paid attention, and just observed while almost everyone else was acting like a fool being loud and talking too much. But anyways, there was one teacher that stood out because of what she said one day when other kids started talking shit about me - saying that i don' ever talk or that i think im better than everyone else (that's another thing that idiot extroverts seem to think). She stood up for me, told them to leave me alone and that it's not that i am being a snob or being weird. It's just that what is going on in my own mind is much more interesting than anything any of them had to say. Lol. To this day, i appreciate her so much for saying that. Thats the same teacher that encouraged me to do more creative writing and got me a spot in the journalism club. She encouraged me to be creative. I dont know what i would do without being able to express myself creatively especially in these times. We need more teachers like that. Because honestly, i fear for this next generation. God help them.
" I just like to be turned inward. I'm comfortable that way." - I love that, sums it up perfectly x
"Introversion is YOUR way. Anxiety is IN your way" - Thank you for putting it so eloquently! I have both, and some days, it feels like it's my way and other days, it feels in my way! Now I know the difference and can take appropriate action depending on the situation!
Same here
Same here I feel both sometimes synonymously
I could be extrovert..but my anxiety never lets me know!😫
Same here. Although, sometimes I wonder if we become social anxious because society sees introverts the way they do. I think we are more likely TO be looked down on, seen as needing to be “fixed”, bullied growing up because we just want to be alone and don’t want to give into peer pressure etc…
@@maurafenlon8071 I'm most definitely very introverted. I have ADHD, very possibly ASD, and I truly prefer to be alone. When I do interact with people, it's usually in the exchanging of information in some way, like here where I'm going to offer my own thoughts or insight in regard to introversion leading to anxiety leading to depression.
Anyway, I stick to myself almost exclusively. I managed to get married and have kids, and nobody expected that. The planets aligned or some shit. But because I prefer to be by myself pursuing solitary interests, I don't relate to most people on many common things, and I value and think about a lot of things differently than most. People being how they are, are more likely to mistreat you the more different you are, especially if you don't entertain them in some way. I have an unhealthy relationship with math, as in I love math, and I love programming, especially graphics programming, because that's all math. I'm not going to entertain many people. After so many instances of being dismissed or mistreated because I don't align with other people, I've developed an anxiety over social interaction. It's not necessarily that I fear people so much as a "how much of a pain in the ass is this going to be" thing any time I need to be in a social situation. I have to calculate my actions so that I say the "right" things and minimize how much I absent-mindedly drum on things around me. It's masking. It's exhausting. It's not fear so much as "I don't want to put up with this today." But, you have to interact with the world and all its people to varying degrees frequently. That exhausting social experience can lead to burn out and depression. A one of instance of a cashier making fun of my excessive hand gestures is no big deal. But when it's everywhere I go all the time, and it affects my ability to judt conduct mundane business, it's a problem. I should just claim to be Italian or some shit I guess. Use the "talking with their hands" stereotype to my advantage. Being introverted, I also frequently experience people trying to dominate me in many situations. I guess it's assumed I'm submissive or compliant. I'm not. I have a very strong sense of myself and what I find acceptable treatment. I'll fight back tactfully, sometimes aggressively, but it's hit and miss on whether the other person relents or decides to up the anti. It's exhausting going to the grocery store and having to think about who I'm going to have to fight with. I also don't get it, because I'm 6'3", in decent shape, have a shaved head, a beard, RBF, and usually in black metal shirts. I don't know if my appearance just invites challenge, or if my behavior communicates vulnerability. In any case, I encounter a lot of shit from "alpha bros."
So, just a bunch of seemingly minor negative experiences over your life adds up to you just don't want to deal with it anymore, and it's a consequence of how people react to me just being passively me. It's just not worth dealing with people if I don't have to, and it's depressing that I do have to often enough.
As someone who has depression AND anxiety, who is also an introvert, this was extremely helpful. Thank you
@@ina-tajwedwab2486 I take an SSRI atm, that's all besides a little THC
I need to go back therapy but its very expensive
@@Kurious_Kiwi i really wanna to go to the therapy, but I feel like i don't want to talk about it
So if you go to the therapy what you do there? Like just talk?
For anyone with depression or anxiety, you may want to consider they are likely manifestations of C-ptsd, and begin healing yourself from that. A much truer route, and the logic makes so much more sense.
@@monokuma8093 It's mainly talking not necessarily about your diagnosis every time. I've been a few times to different ones. My first time I did the mistake of behaving/interacting/talking like I would if I were talking to random person on the street. So obviously the therapist didn't notice what was wrong with me and wasn't able to help me. I was my own hinderance. Now when I go I have to remind myself to basically be myself when I'm there. That way she can understand what's going on with me and give support. I didn't think talking about my issues would help me, but surprisingly as soon as I finished my 1st session with my new therapist I felt so much better, like a huge boulder I didn't realize I was carrying was lifted. Sometimes therapists will give you different exercises to do, either writing, drawing, breathing/stretching exercises, they just have a discussion to get to know you, so that together your able to make life better for you. There's a ton of other stuff stuff they can recommend you for support as well if you or they think therapy alone is enough. I highly recommend to give it a go, if you don't like the therapist you see just go to a different one, until your able to be yourself/comfortable with them. It's def a trust thing, as you'll get the best results by being open with them about everything. Just realized how long this reply is sorry:)
I'm introverted and love it. The lock down is cake for me! 😄
Yeahhhh same 😁😁✌
Me too!
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So true!!
Same! I was like, “oh no...you mean we have to socially distance? That’s awful! NOT!!” I’m chillin
Truth 😋
Finding a good job as an introvert has been difficult and that's been the hardest part of being introverted, for me. Every job I've ever had has required me to fake extroversion.
I’m an extreme introvert (1 on extroversion out of 100 in personality tests) and I work in kitchens. Also shy. I can deal with it because I work with the same people every day, and if I don’t want to interact with people, I just limit myself to callbacks on order, affirmations, etc. just the things I have to say to make things run smooth. I’ve also known my bosses for several years from prior jobs, so they know the score. Some of the servers have called me “weird”. Since I’m also disagreeable (scored a 3) I just respond with, “Maybe you’re just boring.”
I imagine faking extroversion must be brutal, and I feel for you. Best advice I can give is to just stand your ground, if you don’t want to interact and don’t have to for some specific reason, then don’t, and to hell with everyone else.
Find a work environment that is introverted. E.g. technology or telecoms.
I'm very introverted and work as a software engineer. While there is a need for meetings and talking to other people, there are also long periods where I can just focus on the job without talking to anyone. Works fine.
You have to pretend
I'm introverted & have worked at different call centers finally found one I loved where almost every day would be super easy
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I have autism, I was diagnosed with it when I was 15. I tried shrooms and it made me function so much better.
Eek I’m autistic too and might wanna try mushrooms. How do I go about it?
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I never know what to say. How do people always have so much to say??
Eighty percent of what most people say is either unnecessary or even harmful. Too many words over a long period of time is usually not a good thing. So, what have you got to say about that?
@@watchmanonthewall14 Agreed, most of the time it is just useless information...
So so true that’s my biggest problem
Cuz people are greedy and talk is cheap. And it's easier to talk out of their asses then from their heart.
Same
Introverted: yes
Social anxiety: yes
Depressed: maybe
Hotel: Trivago
Mood
Haha!
LmAO
pretty much
felt that
Introversion: "I'm content to be at home"
depression: "I'm cutting myself off from the world"
actually i do both for a few months and am happier - world is too noisy
@@cazpk6840 I am glad you are happier
So I am both
i actually do that two things
Depression is not about that exactly, but I can't talk for everyone who has it either.
I am an introvert but I would go to Coachella, Burning Man, Woodstock, and other big social events. Because as an introvert we do socials so rarely and we tend to be choosy, that makes these events more enjoyable and memorable for me.
Shiva Shakti same I love going to concerts like I was supposed to be going to 5 concerts before the whole pandemic (which is so sad) but I also think I might have social anxiety bc I definitely have anxiety as is but I also feel like every time I’m in public or I have to do something alone I’m being stared at or judged.
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Yes! Me too! If I like the music played, and I’m going with my closest friends, I would definitely enjoy it! 😃
Same!! I don’t particularly enjoy being in a big crowd but stuff like concerts and events are things I see as cool experiences in life and would totally be down to go. That said, it’ll deplete my energy and I would need to stay holed up at home for a long while after
I totally agree! We, my two introverted kids and I, (I have two kids that are extroverted, too), choose are days that we are "out" and then have "at home" days to rest and recharge. We homeschool but we have separate corners of the house to retreat to. We don't go on every field trip, but choose what is most important at the time.
The book “Quiet” made me feel so much better about being an introvert. I highly recommend it ❤️
Thanks for the recommendation, just bought it :)
Me, too! Susan Cain did a great Tedtalk on her book.
That book is SOOO good.
Omg wait now I really want to read this
@@biancasamuel7097 potatoes are indeed great, just had roasted potatoes and it made my evening. Also, yes, the book recommandation.
I really like Dr. Ramani. She explains things well and comes across as so kind and understanding. I probably would go to therapy if she could be my dr!
Kim the Artist I wish I could afford her lol
@@cailin5309 same!
I would too, she is awesome
She is the BEST, isn't she? Just listening to her speak makes me feel better lol. Such a warm and reassuring presence.
Totally. She *gets* it.
I’m an introvert. I’ve always been more comfortable and relaxed being alone. When I get in a group setting, I’m so out of my comfort zone. When I do go out, I prefer to go with my best friend and do something a few times a month. That’s plenty. People have always made me feel like I’m weird and I’m not normal. This video helped me realize that my way is normal for me. Thank you
I'm one of those introverts with social anxiety. I've had it since I was a kid (36 now 😥).
I can talk to (most) colleagues at work, but as soon as it gets beyond a bit of a chat into cracking jokes and laughing, all I can manage is maybe smiling a bit. Then I avoid it by trying to find some work to do in order to get myself out of the situation.
Not exactly conducive to making friends. It's a real pain in the arse!
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So me!😓
are you sur not avpd
@@flora7297 No. I shall look into that TYVM
I used to have panic attacks in even in small gatherings where I had to leave. Ended up getting fed up and telling myself it’s not going to keep happening. Got over it over time. I still feel awkward though. Especially around new people.
"Cats are introverts, dogs are extroverts" idk this made me so happy 😅
As an introvert, I always imagine myself as a cat
Both my cats, Palico and Kittyvitchnikov are both extroverts. Sometimes I can’t get the little assholes to leave me alone. They even cuddle the dogs.
@@Minotaur-ey2lg Just saying your cats are everything
@@Minotaur-ey2lg I see you're a Monster Hunter fan. c:
@@melissabulicek8671 same lol
My anxiety is a feeling of being judged, especially when people stare at me. I'm definitely most comfortable alone, or with certain people. I used to be so normal around people, then like a light switch I woke up one day with crippling social anxiety. It sucks because I'm not really an introvert, but I distance my social life so much from society that it makes it hard to find good friends. I'm constantly having to tell my brain to stop thinking that made up anxiety thoughts. What helped me cope the most is understanding that anxiety is just your brain trying to tell the 'future', when in actuality it's just a bunch of non sense thoughts. Learning to realize how to take my mind when my anxiety is going up and just 'clearing the table' with your thoughts. Wipe it away, it isn't even real. Your anxiety is trying to live in the future, don't let it.
The switch just the happen for me, I was bullied and laughed at in public, then I started judging myself
@@DiDi-jl5jn So did I hope you get better
@@DiDi-jl5jn damn I know that feeling too. Just happened to me and I feel on edge whenever I am out in public
Same i am also having social anxiety .i cant able to talk to girls in school and college period 😪😪
@@DiDi-jl5jnyes same
I’m a highly sensitive introvert with social anxiety married to a “regular” introvert and we definitely differ in how we handle social situations. My battery runs out in 2-3 hours and I shut down, while he’s still having the time of his life.
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Same. I can only be out for a few hours but if I'm dancing, working out, doing anything active I tend to be more energic and find myself out longer than 3 or 4 hours
I'm an Introvert and I don't understand why my friends are always trying to get me to go out. Ugh.
Because most of your friends are extroverts who are unable to put themselves into another's shoes. They don't understand why anyone would want to stay in for extended periods and just enjoy one's own company. They cannot relate to your lifestyle.
@@watchmanonthewall14 Yes, but when you explain it to them ad nauseum as I do to my friends, and they still want me to go out and take it as an affront to them, I feel that it is very disrespectful. It is not about you and there is nothing wrong with me. I'm a nurse and have to be "on" for 12 hours a day so the last thing I want to do is go out in public when I could be home on my couch. It's exhausting. I understand that they are not like me and respect that, I don't understand why they can't accept me and not see it as a character flaw or as if there's something wrong with me.
@@kima8670 That's unfortunate. My family and friends accept my introversion. Some of them may poke fun at me for it from time to time, and we all have a laugh, but it doesn't go farther than that.
that sounds like social anxiety
@@itsmequeenbee235 Nah social anxiety is fear based. Introversion is enjoyment based.
Dr Ramani is so poised, articulate and intelligent... wish I had her brain!!
I wish I had her as a counselor. 😁
Wish she was my doctor lol
If you have her voice by any chance, make an hour long audio of yapping about whatever :)
As I get older, I have become more and more comfortable with being alone, but I am still an extrovert - I get my energy from being with just one or two people.
I get my energy from food. I enjoy doing things with company I like and hate being alone or in company I don't like.
As l get older, l need more alone time. I re-energize by being by myself. And conversation with one or two people just feels about the right amount.
I have social anxiety so I can never get energy from people, only fooood and maybe family or old friends
Society has definitely pathologized introversion. As bad as it is now, it was worse in the past - in the 50s and 60s. My extrovert narcissist mother reacted that way to me, always insinuating that I was strange and weird. Needless to say it is a core wound for me.
Even nowadays some young people haven't been taught about the two types so they walk around thinking there is something wrong with them. At least there is the internet now so people can search about this stuff.
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i think in part because men tend to be more extrav & back then they were justifying yanking talented women out of interesting jobs gained during ww2 & passing them to any breathing male that happened along. even in the early-mid 90's business school was painful if you werent some irresponsible, overconfident yahoo. the bullshit they used to say! the biggest asshole in my final year went to, TADUM, goldman sachs. the talented quiet female next to him? struggled to get a job. imagine. thats how we got 2008. #65%womennow
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Same here. Since childhood everybody made me feel something was wrong with me especially my mother. It took at least 50yrs before I realized I was perfectly normal. Thanks for being here with similarly situated people. That feeling of being normal was confirmed
40yrs
Covid has made me realize that I’m an introvert..I’m very social and can be very extroverted but at my core I’m an introvert..
Ambivert
Maybe you are ambivert, thats what I am
Mandy Lynn Possibly..but I realized I can spend hours, days, weeks, months on end by myself and be at total peace.
I'm the same way!! If I'm thrown in to a social situation I can also adapt..but I def don't prefer that, lol
same here! now I can learn to be true to myself...
I thought I had become introverted. Really I had become depressed. I'm just realizing this recently. It's been so long, but getting back into the extraversion that I found so energizing and validating is starting to seem reasonable again.
Just a perspective from someone who absolutely had confused the concepts. Thank you for the video!
Im happy that youre finding your way back :)
This whole video is about how being introvert doesn't mean you are depressed or something is wrong with you
My daughter is an introvert she always has been. When the pandemic hit she said I was built for a pandemic. It’s her way of recharging herself and she’s okay with herself. Thank you for talking about the difference.
Talk more about anxiety, specially post-pandemic anxiety, please! Thanks
Great idea! We'll add it to our list
I cannot wait until we are post-pandemic. I second the request for info on this subject. How about PRE-post pandemic!
I think my social anxiety has gone worse during the pandemic :( Idk how ill feel once I reunite with friends, family and school
I think I need this too, I'm so emotionally unstable
As an introvert myself, I realized with pleasure -- probably back in May or June -- that with COVID and social distancing needs, for the first time in my life being an introvert is a *virtue*.
depression, anxiety being a introvert. Had my hormones checked and had nothing. Started hormone therapy and feel so much better so glad I went this route instead of anti depressants.
Your blood hormone levels were ok but you still went on hormone replacement? Can you elaborate?
@@alexven92 Read again
@@SWchickHB had nothing? So no hormones in your body? Kinda ambiguous sorry
I’m on the same boat. 😔
What do you mean by hormone therapy?
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I wish she'd talk more about these other issues on her channel, rather than just narcissism.
She’s obsessed with narcissism 🤣🤣🤣
Say it again louder the people in the back. Narcissism is her thing which generates the revenue so I get why she focuses so much on it.
@@rcfreaks6281 she’s the narcissist.
Maybe that's just her field of specialty, like the thing she's researched most about, or most well educated? Like, there's this psychiatrist called Katie Morton who specialises in depression I think, and my bestfriend who is a psychiatrist specialises in education type based mental illness. Also I remembered hearing her said something along the lines of, oh I'm more familiar with anti - social disorders, like BPD, Narc, Psycho or Socio.
Narcissism is hot right now so if you want to sell books, get views, you focus on NPD. @@southernstar2412
Growing-up introvert I always thought something was wrong with me, because at a young age people told me I had a problem. You explain this so well. Now I just tell people I am a introvert, there is nothing wrong with me being alone.
When they first announced the lockdown I was ecstatic. I have all 3 of these
Agree. I never felt it was terrible aside from the casualties. I preferred staying in
As an extroverted depresso it's amazing how many people believe every depressed person socially isolates. Also a lot of people think depression always correlates with low self esteem, which just isn't true. Life can be depressingly awful even if you have a healthy amount of self worth and know you can achieve your goals.
same , life is kicking me in the ass lately , no friends ,no job , stuck inside losing hope
@@jamaicancoder6278 I'm so sorry it's been that way. Hope things get better for you.
Im an introvert with social anxiety. It really hurts during class presentations and group discussions and the people see u as someone who doesn't have any opinion of ur own .u have the opinions many of them but putting them out is the problem
Exactly. Humiliating and traumatic. Forcing students to perform presentations when they suffer extreme SA is cruel and so harmful.
@@greengage6546 this took a huge toll on me in my college years, I had to even graduate 1 semester later because of how shitty my social anxiety got in the way of my studies
I'm an introvert with social anxiety. I had to leave my high paying IT job as I was on the verge of getting panic attacks. During the office calls, which were many, I would start shaking and words wouldn't come out of my mouth. It's difficult to be an introvert with social anxiety.
“We don’t value people who want to be alone.”
That should be food for thought for many people watching this video.
I appreciate you reinforcing the fact that there is nothing wrong with introversion. I have been in several arguments with family and parents saying i am antisocial or negative simply because id prefer to stay in rather then go to some party, etc. I have even been told that "this is something i need to get over". I can't even count the number of times i have been dragged out to something, only to have almost every introduction start off as "Oh they told me about you, you're the shy one.... common, step out of your comfort zone and smile, hey what's the biggest crowd you've spoken to?" Like i'm some curiosity for people because im just so gosh darn weird. ..
This made me understand I'm an extrovert with social anxiety! Whenever I am with people I'm comfortable with, I talk a lot, joke, act silly. But when I'm with others, I am super shy and don't say anything, worrying they might think I'm stupid or whatever. It's hard to not be able to be the person you are because of social anxiety. Also the other way, if you're an introvert and people are telling you to open up! Let people be!
that "please let me be" is so on point. I'm very much happy being alone.
When he said, "It's like you're taking the words out of my brain and speaking them", I said, "Me too"!!
8:21 I can totally feel the difference as well. Some points, I just don't want to waste the energy going outside to see people. Other times, I CAN'T waste the energy because it's all I have left to make it through the day.
My anxiety was so bad when I was younger. Through the years, as I've gotten around more outspoken people and had jobs that required me to be more outspoken, I have overcome, or atleast have come a long way. At this point in my life, I don't have a million thoughts race through my head as I go out in public alone about what others think of me. I think I've just matured out of it. Although, in adulthood I still struggled with moments of anxiety, such as when I’ve had to sing solos in church.
I would classify myself as an ambivert b/c I don't always want to be around crowds, but if I have to be talkative with others, then I can manage very well. Others have perceived me as an extrovert.
I wish I had the anxiety that allowed me to sing in churches, damn.
I wish I get over my anxiety.. I'm skipping all the job interview.. Like I wanna work but I'm scared of people and talking and going out..!
@@aestheticlove1812 Challenge yourself a little at a time.
@@baileymiller8916 It wasn't easy for me. I'd be nervous and even over-practiced which lead to a few mess ups- in public!
@@Godlywoman88 I did.. But I always mess up.. I forget wht I'm talking.. I sweat.. And n don't even give proper answer when ik most of them
All of my life I've thought that I was an introvert, however, after analizing my moods/feelings when being confronted with social events, I finally realized I'm a depressed socially anxious EXTROVERT! I love getting to know people, communicating with them, but everytime I go out I get bombarded with intrusive thoughts about how everyone hates me or that I'm embarrassing. It's really frustrating because I know I would shine so much without all these horrible symptoms :(
Thank you so much! I am just an introverted and this clarifies everything. I'm really content to spend a lot of time at home. I enjoy traveling, hang out and everything, but I'm super happy to spend a lot of time at home with my dog, all alone, for long periods, and I am happy with it. Many people think is wrong. I feel better after watching this video.
I am all 3 things, introverted, have GAD and suffer depression.
Same here.
@@lunaandcoco4771 It's a fun mixture eh? 😑😂
Andy Russell haha yep. It's a rollercoaster ride to have all three things
3 strikes here too, plus autism. Never a dull moment 😂
@@worldbeing8305 stfu
The fact that this got recommended to me speaks volumes
She explains everything so clearly. I'm so glad I found this channel!
The worst is being an extreme introvert and shy. Sure, you can work on it, but it’s like filing away at prison bars. You can get it done, but it takes forever.
Id love to see a video on skin and hair picking/pulling disorders please!!😊
YES PLEASEEEEEE :(
THAT'S why it "feels" different to isolate when my depression is acting up. Comes from a different place.
This is so helpful to apply terminology to the way I feel. As an introvert, I shine while working from home. I love being with my family and still being able to do a good job without all the distractions of being at the office.
I’ve been thinking of this, and i believe that anxiety can be part of a person who is introverted if they know they’ll have to be in a social situation where they need to “act” extroverted to fit in and not seem weird or shy or whatever the case might be. Ex : Im a pretty introverted person and i dont believe i have socia anxiety, however, if i need to attend a family gathering with my inlaws or meet a big group of people, i tend to start feeling anxious because i know that i’ll have to be more extroverted to make sure people dont confuse who i am as a person with a lack of interest in them by not speaking much or being very social with everyone. Does this make any sense?
Definitely makes sense. Just like going to parties
It makes perfect sence
It does 💯 percent
I think that's what social anxiety looks like, personally. For example, I'm an introvert, too. And I don't feel anxious to meet my friends. But I feel anxious to meet new people and stuff. So I think what you're describing may just be your social anxiety kicking in.
I understand this all perfectly, I feel the same way.
The last part: The distinction between social engagement and social isolation. That's EXTREMELY helpful to me. As an introvert with depression, I'll be able to spot the red flag when it's there. Thank you so, so much.
I wish you had given a bit more definition of introversion, particularly that introverts can definitely enjoy being out, with friends, eat out, movies, dance etc etc. But we can only do it for a bit, then we feel drained and need to go back to our quiet place to RECHARGE our energy stores. An extrovert needs a lot of input, they love being out, lots of people, sound, lights etc. That's how they recharge, and get drained being alone and in quiet. I've seen that as the main difference and definition, along with some other traits.
Loved this video. There is nothing wrong with us. We enjoy the silence and a calmed environment. ❤️😊
Introvert is your way… Social anxiety gets in YOUR WAY.
Well said!💕✅
As an introvert with both social anxiety AND depression, I would like to say thank you to the both of you. And yes, it is so true about introverts often feeling left out or misrepresented. I've even had some of the bolder extroverts outright challenge _why_ I and my introverted friends are this way.. Essentially making us feel unwelcome in a larger friend group because we weren't like.. 'one of them' or something. :/ It sucked but in the long run, we never needed people who were gonna be so unnecessarily narrow minded and rude anyway.
I've always been an introvert since I was a child. I've always had lots of friends and enjoy being around them and family. When I would be alone I always found something to do and I was happy about that because I feel like I get a break from the world so I can be more with me. It's like a battery that needs to be recharged and when it's charged it still needs some time to cool off before being active again.
So spot on, I am proudly introverted! This clear explanation was definitely needed, God bless y’all ❤️
It’s nice to know other people feel the same way you do. We’re not alone and we are strong.
I've found that a lot of Western societies look down on introversion and even see it as a problem. But I've also lived in some non-Western countries where introversion is seen as normal and even valued. As an introvert, that was really interesting for me.
Do you mind me asking which countries?
@@plonkjecr5902 I think the country where I felt this the most was Japan. I feel like the whole society was geared towards introverts... For example, people are generally very respective of your personal space and privacy. It was here that I became comfortable with dining alone, because most restaurants will have single seats. I was also pleasantly surprised that my workplace placed an emphasis on reflecting before you speak, rather than 'just going for it'.
I am introvert with depression too - but the social isolation feels painful to me so I can tell the difference between just being happy to be home for the night. For me it's the days that get painful with isolation. So glad you are doing this work, I'm way behind on your series which makes me mad that I didn't know all these new treatments while I have struggled. :P
Did I win? I have all of it?
✔️ introvert ✔️ GAD ✔️ MDD
This introvert with social/ generalized anxiety and clinical depression appreciates this brilliant discussion.
Introvert prefers in-depth connection and deep conversation. The most trivial thing I hate most is small talks. I do not know why people want to talk about things that do not really matter to them and waste time engaging in a conversation.
I'm an introvert and prefer small talk because it can be stopped at any time. It drains me to talk a lot. I think it's either or for us.
If I weren't socially anxious I'd be talking to random people all day everyday. Talking to people energizes me. Social anxiety is truly crippling and makes me withdraw even when I don't want to.
I could be sitting there with you both🙂 I am introvert living with depression,anxiety, night time panic attacks and PTSD. I would enjoy to sit in such a pleasant atmosphere with dog and 2 clever, introverted people.💙
You cannot sit with them, but you can seek help elsewhere. All the best to you.
@@watchmanonthewall14 i found help👍💖💖
Introverted social anxiety or depression
My brain: yeeeaa let's take all three no big deal
I am an introvert and love it. I have no desire to socialize with people in this modern society I must live in. Aldous Huxley had it right when he said "Being well adjusted in an insane world means you are not normal." I think introverts are the normal people living amongst people with mental illness and for me it is so draining.
As an introvert I feel everything she says and I just wish this had by far more views to open peoples minds.
Social-distancing is very easy for me, an introvert. Everyone around me is like, “how do you do it? “I can’t stand being at home.” “I’m going crazy during quarantine.” And i’m here like y’all hear smth? 😙✌️
So loving this! I'm an introvert, but I can be social, but all my life, I was told I was "cold, mean, socially awkward, etc". At 40, I'm okay to be an introvert, and I don't apologize for it.
Wow I’m an introvert with depression and I always socially isolate, its kinda the way I cope with myself
Ms Lou, Meet a psychotherapist for guidance and maybe medication. Join in group activities and if possible do public speaking courses. To feel better reduce negative thoughts with a simple practice. Your breath and mind [brain] are closely related causing stress-anxiety. For a better life sit on a chair, neck straight, eyes closed and observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 5-10-15 minutes or more. Don’t fight your thoughts. Slowly the mind will relax. No deep breathing needed. Do the practice without any expectations. Change happens from within by itself. Day or night, when taking a walk, sitting in a park, when reading, at office, before sleep etc sit or lie down and observe your breath. Like me, make this a lifetime daily habit to have a good life. Reduce negative social media. Avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly. Best wishes. Senior Counsellor.
I really love when these two talk in depth about things like this that are so easily overlooked by ourselves, I’m always learning more about it because of these two so thank you 💛
One thing that’s just got me in this video is when to spot what symptoms is connected to either depression or being introvert, I would of just overlooked it and never even think why I’m isolating my self, I know why I’m isolating my self it’s because of how I feel but I’ve never sat there and thought it’s a symptom of depression so me just recognising that now I can then try pull my self out of it by getting up and doing something as a pose to just sitting there isolating, I don’t know if this makes sense to anyone reading but it’s really helped me, I think recognising symptoms early and being able to not fall in the traps will help me be less depressed and maybe even help me get out of it
I just hope they read these comments and puts a smile on their faces knowing they are helping people 🙏🏻
"Cats are introverts" my left eyeball. My boy, Mr. Mustachio, never hesitates to flirt with anyone who comes into my house. Heck, even with the vets! And I remember this other cat, Garfield ('cuz he was orange), who basically went door to door trading pets for treats. Mofo was a stray that looked as fat as a house cat.
the grind never stops for mister garf
I am an introvert with social anxiety and severe depression and everything Dr. Ramani said resonated through to my core.
I had questions, began blurting out my story twice, then the fear kicked in and the thoughts of, "no one wants to hear about your issues, just like social media, people will judge!"
Yes, thank you for explaining that introverts are truly themselves. I was just thinking about this and it's like this video answered my concerns. I'm always constantly labeled as " too quiet/shy" and have been told by many that I would grow out of it as if it's a bad thing. It is me and I accept that, but over the years it has really bothered me and I've felt ostracized by friends that have turned down the opportunity of inviting me places bc I'm "too introverted". In fact, I love and value people who reach out to me to spend time with them but usually, introversion is a barrier to them...
Btw, I do have a bit of anxiety sometimes but it doesn't usually stop me from going out if I choose to
Pretty sure depression led to all of these for me. I never considered myself having social anxiety or being introverted until about three years ago. Now it’s consuming me.
Now imagine being an extrovert with severe social anxiety. I can never be myself. Literally eating me up alive every single day. There’s nothing I wish for more than not having anxiety.
I do have social anxiety and I'm an introvert. The reasons I don't want to hang out with anyone varies. The only thing I really thing I really worry about is my friends/family taking it personally when I don't want to hang out
I feel you man
Love this video. As an introvert, I was in my 20s before I heard someone say it was ok for me to be an introvert, even that the world needs more introverted people like me. I was so shocked and it had never occurred to me that it was ok to be introverted.
Also biggest pet peeve is being called shy. I am reserved, quiet for sure. Not shy.
Thanks for this revealing Discussion. It's always a good feeling when something makes so much sense and leads to insights on very personal issues.
Greetings from an Introvert! :)
i think social anxiety happens when you don't know what you think about yourself , when that self awareness is lacking
It's actually exactly opposite
@@humancroissant531 I don't think so
@@harshwardhansapkale7987 When you are aware of your mistakes you can get anxious about making them in the future. So I don't think social anxiety is lack of self awareness.
@@TheSatyrical we're talking about social anxiety right? So what's up with future in that?
Is social anxiety which we experience in social situation? I think when we aren't aware of ourselves.. Confident in ourselves then we aren't anxious..
So well explained! I'm a total introvert
My introversion is my superpower. My introverted, analytical nature allowed me to decode the family dysfunctions I had to deal with (with out paying $$$ for therapy).
I developed social phobia in school because I was constantly getting picked on and teased for seemingly everything, and I was skinny and shy at 5' tall and 130 lbs. I've also had dysthymia with occasional major depression. My depression has been treated, and I'm doing pretty well. After I got out of school, I started working out, gained considerable muscle, learned how to defend myself, and realized the bullies were as fragile as I was, and I stopped caring to the point I will absolutely get in somebody's face if they mocked me. Before then I was an introvert, and I still am. I get recharged by watching a movie alone, practicing bass or guitar, or listening to music. I don't like being packed in crows so tightly that I can't move, but I'm not at all social phobic anymore, and I'm not at all shy. I also like playing music publicly.
Omg,that's me I love to be alone,I love to be home and very happy,I cook I talk to my self I dance I drink a 🍻 our wine and I can be alone the most part of my day and I'm great,.
I'm an introvert living w depression. I cried at the end of this.
Honestly, I suggest you try meditation or simply relaxing music. It's a simple way to reduce stress and anxiety. Meditation provides a soothing of the mind and helps to connect with yourself. Obviously, this does not prevent being followed by a health professional. However, I believe it's a good way to take care of yourself and make you feel better. I sincerely hope that you will find your means to fight your anxiety.
@@mindfulnessmeditationmusic1130 thank you. I truly appreciate this.
@@lawsemaj welcome !
This video describes me. I’m an introvert. But, when I’m experiencing symptoms of depression, I completely disconnect from people. I have no desire to do anything or speak to anyone.
As an introvert that works as a project manager and has to deal manage and direct multiple people i can tell at this the job is exhausting because of just that. As an introvert i strive in conversations one on one, or in 3. Groups of 4 get me lost already and i tend to take the listening seat while the other 3 talk along. Larger groups are exhausting and generally just not fun for me. But I’ll spend hours talking one on one with someone . From a stranger to a close friend. I do have dogs and one of them is defiantly an introvert dog and have met many dogs that are not extroverts, just a note there.. that generalization on dogs are extroverts and cats are introverts, is indeed a generalization , perhaps because the majority fall in that category but that are many exceptions to that rule. As an introvert that has had to battle thru it to grow professionally, and a personal that will on and off deal with low levels of self esteem, and related with sometimes, and sometimes not cycles of depression, i can definitely confirm its hard to tell wen a depression cycle is coming thru, and i only notice it and realize when its settled in and its gotten quite bad again. I need to figure out a bette way to recognize the signs and the red flags ….
Dr. Ramani is the absolute best.. she deserves much more recognition
"Hmm.. why not sample all three to see what best fits?" - probably my inter monologue.
I've always considered myself an introvert. I love being alone. But as an introvert I've also dealt with depression and social anxiety. When I had depression I knew I needed help when I was scared to be alone with myself and my thoughts. I got treatment and therapy and my depression finally went away. I still deal with some anxiety but it getting better with time through life experience and strategically placing myself in social settings where I have no choice but to stop overthinking and adapt. I still have socially akward moments though lol
Did you find an antidepressent that worked for you or did you simply go through therapy?
I'm an Introvert & was diagnosed with Anxiety & Major Depression yrs ago. I've since been able to manage my depression. I can recognize the signs when my depression starts to come back again.
Glad you're doing better with the depression. :)
My mom thought something was wrong with me because I often enjoyed being by myself and drawing. I definitely worried something was wrong with me. It's not that I always like to be alone. I do enjoy socializing but not often. I always say once a week is a max for socializing outside of work. That sometimes can be more than enough. I need it just not often.
It’s not exactly a rare thing for outgoing parents to think there’s something wrong with their introverted children so that’s not surprising. I’m sure it was frustrating as hell for you.
I’m an introvert and whenever I’m sad or feeling not good I would share it with my closed friends, which also help me feel relieve🙂
I'm introverted but highly communicative. I can keep very long conversations about interesting things with people who makes me confortable talking. I laugh a lot and very easily, and when I get sufficient intimacy, I even throw some jokes around or play tricks with people. But staying for prolonged periods of time in crowded spaces with lots of people or being forced to talk to someone I barely know is tiring. After a party, all I want is to get home, turn the TV on and watch something to reset and recharge before going to bed. Or play games by myself, or even stay on UA-cam searching and learning new things. As a child, my cousins would be playing sports outside the beach house or even at the pool, while all I wanted was to know what would happen until the end of that chapter from the book I was reading. When I play games, I go always for single player ones, and being creative, just me and my imagination, is so mentally refreshing for me.
People should know the difference between introverts and extroverts and that introvertion by itself is not unhealthy. For many years I thought I had a problem and some people said I was sad, shy or arrogant. That stains the self image and can hinder your self steem. So spread the word. The life for many introverts will be easier the more people understand it.
I'm an introvert 💙
Thank you Dr. Ramani 😄
sometimes healthy coping mechanisms dun give you as much healing as you'd expect. I only ever had experienced it once in my life. I was so stressed and I did an intense serving practice in the middle of the night. The relief and joy I got from transferring all my frustration and anger into hitting that ball so damn hard - that was a once in a lifetime experience for me and I have tried multiple times to duplicate that feeling ever since that one time but so far, I was nvr able to. I just keep crawling back into engaging in the most toxic ways to cope and now it has turned into smth like "nah nth rlly matters once you are dead".