MainMan: devil jin is nerfed he is no longer playable. Momo with dj: I beg your pardon? Edit: No hate to main man or Momo all I am trying to say that is even with devil jin's nerf's its not stopping Momo from taking his crazy jin to the higher level GG to bot players and MASKU
Considering that Momodog is one of the best mishimas and MainMan is nowhere near one of the best mishimas, and MainMan was dominating this set, yes, that means DVJ is nerfed too much.
It's always nice to watch a match in which the players respect each other and time runs out because of technical play and not turtling. At Bushin and below, players do not stop pressing buttons. Like at all.
Do you think that despite Devil Jin’s nerfs, that he can still be playable? I think Momo’s making Devil Jin work and you gotta admire someone’s character loyalty to still make a character look good and OP, despite being weakened.
Dude of course Devil Jin is still playable. Sure he might be bottom 10 or bottom 5 but in THIS game being at the bottom means you're still playable, still somewhat strong with EWGF and hellsweep, still perfecttly functional. Just takes 10x the effoet to make him work
I was reading the comments on this other video, and there was a fella that was convinced that Devil Jin’s demon paw was busted and overpowered pre nerf lol.
@@noshgaming They did a set and Qudans beat him lol. They are back and forth taking #1 in leaderboards though. In all honesty, if you wanna talk about fundamentals and not the gimmick setups, i think Qudans is a scary mf when it comes to playing classic Devil Jin style. Dude is just a menace when it comes to pokes and incoming hellsweeps everytime.
crazy to watch the amount of respect they have just standing in each others face not taking actions for a second. In my rank purple, people are hardcore mashing.
@@lilq34567890 yeah fought some 200k rated people and they’re too fluid with it. Exciting to see a fighting game with such a high skill ceiling. So many options.
I like that there is another one of these sets that was played except Momo-dog won that one. I'm a huge fan of both Devil Jin and Kazuya and these two play peak versions of each. Very nice. 👌
The difference. though is you can play more than one characters a lot of these Streamers only play one character maybe two or three That takes a lot of skill, especially at that type of level.
why does momo and qudans use b2,3 in neutral so much? its a HIGH mid string. 14:50 momo uses this string in neutral and loses 50% he then spring kicks...... AND DOES B2,3 IMMEDIATELY AGAIN??? gets counterhit by 1,1,2 because its i14... its a bad string to use in neutral but i see djs doing it i feel like im taking crazy pills
It's almost impossible to duck, is only ducked upon luck. They spam it in heat only cuz it's a heat extender upon pressing forward after the input. It also does a lot of chip damage if blocked. Anyone who manages to duck the first hit doesn't really see it coming, they just chance it.
I need help, suggestions, Should i continue hwaroang rank up and learn about him more and cuz hes cool or change to yoshimitsu cuz he's cool and all and interested
19:16 count the amount of b4 MMS did in this set to counter SSL .. The answer is ZERO !! MMS complains a lot without utilizing all the moves and tools the character has
He did Kazuya dittos with Knee in 7 and almost took a few games, very close matches, and took a few games off Arslan in 8. he's the best non pro you're likely to play against in ranked.
8:37 the only reason DJ doesnt get an actual nerf is because how much his players cry over nothing eziest character in game EZIER than alisa in mashing
Maybe? In a Tekken 8 sense perhaps. Devil Jin was basically the same since Tekken 5-7 in terms of strategy and gameplay but now he is quite different with his new tools. They want you to use his new kit based on the changed moves so for Qudan’s old habits die hard. It would be better to not have DVJ experience and start fresh with this version. If they never changed and “adjusted” what they did before the heat smash nerf then I think that Momo would no doubt be the strongest DVJ player that we know of.
ggs I live inside your walls
ty for showing me the triple WS3 combo route
Aaayoooo
LMAOOO
So THAT'S why you know how to block his 50/50
Pls live inside my walls too 😳👌🏻
MainMan: devil jin is nerfed he is no longer playable.
Momo with dj: I beg your pardon?
Edit: No hate to main man or Momo all I am trying to say that is even with devil jin's nerf's its not stopping Momo from taking his crazy jin to the higher level GG to bot players and MASKU
Considering that Momodog is one of the best mishimas and MainMan is nowhere near one of the best mishimas, and MainMan was dominating this set, yes, that means DVJ is nerfed too much.
@@ex_ploit3529maybe mainman is getting much better and people keep underrating him?
While MainMan is a really good player there's no shame in admitting that the patch definitely makes a difference in their matches
Character specialist can make any character look op, thats the beauty of fighting games and Tekken shines at it
You are disrespecting Main Man he is definitely one of the best Kazuya players in this world@@ex_ploit3529
The Oldest Kazuya In History vs The Strongest Devil Jin Of Today 🚬🗿
Yooo Mr OmniMan didn't know you played Tekken. Who do you main?
Drop a get jacked liked the mishimas
@@slieza9113working on it
how old is ryan hart vs tmm again? genuinely curious, not a contest
@@BaldOmniManhell yea
some of the best and fastest mishima gameplay i've ever seen
Yo boogard
love your videos dude keep it up 💪
Remember on your video how I commented on Devil Jin getting witch hunted? Swe manifested it
Just watching you lol
I really miss Devil Jin's morning crow crossup
It made zero sense but it just looked so COOL
Ferrari tech
Best looking crossup ever
Bro ima be honest, main man is one handsome dude for his age
Edit: didn’t need it to get biologically and regionally specific ☠️☠️
I'd do some things to TMM.
fr
How old is tmm?
40
In his 30's I believe?(I might be super wrong)
It's always nice to watch a match in which the players respect each other and time runs out because of technical play and not turtling. At Bushin and below, players do not stop pressing buttons. Like at all.
Punisment and counterhits with sidesteps destroy up to Fujin
tekken doesn’t start till bushin
im convinced that the devs only look at momodog and qudans matches, thats the only logical explanation for the constant dvj nerfs
Insane comeback that final match. Jaw dropping 22:00 22:50
Yeah I though main man was gonna job there
@@BaldOmniManthe comeback in that round seemed to have taken Momodog's soul for the rest of the rounds. Post a video of you playing bro😂
@@JuliusCaesar103I might start live streaming soon
Do you think that despite Devil Jin’s nerfs, that he can still be playable?
I think Momo’s making Devil Jin work and you gotta admire someone’s character loyalty to still make a character look good and OP, despite being weakened.
Dude of course Devil Jin is still playable. Sure he might be bottom 10 or bottom 5 but in THIS game being at the bottom means you're still playable, still somewhat strong with EWGF and hellsweep, still perfecttly functional. Just takes 10x the effoet to make him work
Still strong before the nerf he was ridiculousy strong.
@@S0M3GUY778bottom 5? lmao. He got nerfed he didn't get destroyed. He's still not bad
Hes of course playable. But like mainman said right now hes the least rewarding characters from the effort you put to play him
@@S0M3GUY778 bottom 5 is crazy
I have watched Main Man since his reviews on older tekken games and this is one of the best matches I have ever seen on the channel
15:27
That wing actually belongs to the crow customisation that's next to DVJ.
12:13 the range 😮
2:14 this was a thing of beauty from Momo.
2 mans of culture meet. That fight was a puuure pleasure to watch, nice ending MainMan.
Fix Devil Jin, ninja 🥷
Alternative title: “F it, we ball” Fights Tekken Vampire
2:13 Staaahhhp Momo they're gonna take away the last thing we have
7:02 What a beautiful round
14:31 Another great round
🔥🔥 wanted to timestamp these exact rounds
Devil Jin didnt deserve the nerfs. He's a damn Mishima. He's hard to play. So why make him worse?
I was reading the comments on this other video, and there was a fella that was convinced that Devil Jin’s demon paw was busted and overpowered pre nerf lol.
@@BaldOmniMan fitting name. Also he should check out Jin Reina and Kazuya, his world is going to turn upside down.
@@BaldOmniManthere's no way he literally had the WORST one lmao
Imo they should've kept the pushback
@BaldOmniMan probably someone who is salty that their azucena got nerfed
@@BaldOmniManif he knew hes playing 3d game, if he knew kazuya demon paw his mind will be blown
6:18 This is Lore Accurate
4:50 that rushdown finish was wild to watch
12:35 is when he said enough of the bs 😂
Mishima dad gets read by rebeling son????
Great set!! , *Momodog* (Nerf- devil jin) vs *Mainmanswe* (Buff- Kazuya mishima)
nigkah this video was posted 6 minutes ago
Best in the world is ridiculous. Qudans would like a word.
Qudans is easily second best but I am sorry his dvj isn't as good as momo's right now.
would like to see the matchup
"the best devil jin in history vs the strongest devil jin of today"
bro said one of not THE
@@noshgaming They did a set and Qudans beat him lol. They are back and forth taking #1 in leaderboards though. In all honesty, if you wanna talk about fundamentals and not the gimmick setups, i think Qudans is a scary mf when it comes to playing classic Devil Jin style. Dude is just a menace when it comes to pokes and incoming hellsweeps everytime.
Momo is godlike. But until he wins a twt or evo, qudans is the best. He has the achievements to back it up
21:43 and 22:08 is why we dvj mains think dvj is trash
Wtf is that?
Hitbox hello
7:19 can’t believe momo do that on pad
crazy to watch the amount of respect they have just standing in each others face not taking actions for a second. In my rank purple, people are hardcore mashing.
Lmfao u think purple fun wait till u get to blue🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️
@@lilq34567890 yeah fought some 200k rated people and they’re too fluid with it. Exciting to see a fighting game with such a high skill ceiling. So many options.
They playing small tekken a lot, trying to force whiffs and see what the other's habits like when they duck or mash
Counterhits into high damage combos make people relax
I like that there is another one of these sets that was played except Momo-dog won that one. I'm a huge fan of both Devil Jin and Kazuya and these two play peak versions of each. Very nice. 👌
Now that's a lore-accurate fight
momodog is so cool. Doesnt quit djin no matter what
thought it was Qudans for a sec
2:04 he looked so annoyed when bro start wave dashing 😭😭
Great comeback TMM
This guys the reason DVJ keeps getting nerfed lol
A throw? Anywhere? Kind of amazing to see so many flurries of fists with barely a throw. Wild stuff.
Please do more videos of you fighting really strong players!
@themainmanswe what stick are you using big fan of your content btw
2:12 That combo 😮
When I read the Best Devil Jin, I thought it was Qudans.
4:30 nice wavu wavu
Mishima power
the sweatiness of those controllers
How many flash punch? Yes
14:50 momo was getting in that bag
Momo is the last one standing, even Qudans switched to Kazuya recently.
I think momo cracked the code on how to play DJ in this patch
Second time see momo! Thanks for sharing the set
How tfk this man is turning 39 next year!!!
*i also believe momo contacted knee to do some battles*
Yea knee and the other koreans destroyed him tho
I gotta figure how to do that f,f,f 3 without doing morning crow by accident.
I don't like devil Jin but big support to my German guy 💪
Great set
The difference.
though is you can play more than one characters a lot of these Streamers only play one character maybe two or three That takes a lot of skill, especially at that type of level.
As much as i love you mainman, you got your ass kicked up down left and right. GG
Didn’t he win with a 3:5 difference?
question, why is TMM not doing back 2 4 downfoward 2 at the wall ?
main man swe here
What should I do as a Jin player when someone blocks my heat smash because I can’t do the mix up from wave dash because it +3 frames
00:48 phid L x is like a condom brand 😂
15:57 this is why kazs HS is better than DJ anyday, look at that fucking scenario lmfao.
I would like to see BTSJIN fighting FT5 with The MainManSWE! How to make that happen? 😊
Wasn't his name MomoDog before!
Is Devil Jin g.o.d. rank happening anytime soon?
Saw videos of Knee playing Kazuya after the patch. Will we see him play Kaz in tourney?
I hope not! LOL. If he cannot win with Feng or Dragunov, his Kaz stands no chance, buffs or not.
@@GTJD111 Good point
I tought quadans was the best devil jin player but well ..momo is close to that too
Quants is the best devil job player by a mile.
What the song on the first stage
Looking for it as well
what was up with some of these drops
i do have to agree momo is the best dvj in the game. besides qudans
You just fought momonosuke
Oh so sadly not actually the oldest kazuya though... 😭
Phiddledix LOL. Its Phidx
Bro please... momodawg is still a nobody in the competitive scene, he is on the same level as PhiDX lmao
Damn.... pushing tmm so far that he had to use rage art? Against a dvj?? Momodog is so good
11:00 is that a throw from stance?
Yes but you can only do it in heat (it's DvJ's other heat smash), unbreakable throw
Momo the legend
why does momo and qudans use b2,3 in neutral so much? its a HIGH mid string. 14:50 momo uses this string in neutral and loses 50% he then spring kicks...... AND DOES B2,3 IMMEDIATELY AGAIN??? gets counterhit by 1,1,2 because its i14... its a bad string to use in neutral but i see djs doing it i feel like im taking crazy pills
It's almost impossible to duck, is only ducked upon luck. They spam it in heat only cuz it's a heat extender upon pressing forward after the input. It also does a lot of chip damage if blocked. Anyone who manages to duck the first hit doesn't really see it coming, they just chance it.
If it starts with a high and the second hit is a mid, it will be hard to react to
Devil Jin is so barebones that he has to do weird risks like throwing out that move. That’s how bad Devil Jin is rn.
I need help, suggestions, Should i continue hwaroang rank up and learn about him more and cuz hes cool or change to yoshimitsu cuz he's cool and all and interested
Both characters don't need fundamentals
Just play the game
I'd say give Yoshi a try and then go back to hwo, it's not like if you start playing someone else you can't go back right?
momodog is my goat
Mom look! I'm on TV! lol
19:16 count the amount of b4 MMS did in this set to counter SSL ..
The answer is ZERO !!
MMS complains a lot without utilizing all the moves and tools the character has
momodog is good but the best dvj player in the world title has to go to Qudans
This dj perfectly explains why tier lists are useless...i like a charachter, i am skilled, i learn the charachter and make it work. That's it.
Yo guys im pretty new to tekken and i was wondering, how good is tmm compared to the top pros like knee, ak, etc.?
he is a casual to pros.
But an outstanding player.
He did Kazuya dittos with Knee in 7 and almost took a few games, very close matches, and took a few games off Arslan in 8. he's the best non pro you're likely to play against in ranked.
Momo is one of the best dvj but never the best dvj😂
Hey someone commented to his last video say I won and there saying that they are mainmanswe for a giveaway was a scam he was trying really hard
Damn.
Oi :D
Gut 😆
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Omg I must not have tekken algorithm at all. New game just sucks. I forgot about you swe im sorrrrrrrrrrrry.
8:37
the only reason DJ doesnt get an actual nerf is because how much his players cry over nothing
eziest character in game EZIER than alisa in mashing
True
Is Momodog stronger than Qudans?
We can say that but qudan still using Tekken 7 devil jin play style And Momo dog is very aggressive
Maybe? In a Tekken 8 sense perhaps. Devil Jin was basically the same since Tekken 5-7 in terms of strategy and gameplay but now he is quite different with his new tools. They want you to use his new kit based on the changed moves so for Qudan’s old habits die hard. It would be better to not have DVJ experience and start fresh with this version. If they never changed and “adjusted” what they did before the heat smash nerf then I think that Momo would no doubt be the strongest DVJ player that we know of.
nah not yet, Qudans has won tournaments with dvj
would be a a shame if some random replay channel would have already uploaded this.
Mainman dont let other people use ur stream shit
Dude you do see the irony in this right?
“MainAdRevenueSwe”
watching this i learned like 10 different things to do with dvj
Same bro can’t wait to hop in ranked
I love seeing character specialist be creative with their characters. Momo, Richie, eye, Trizzy, CodeRed, Haze/imortal/Pinya etc.
MMS is good, but the DJ nerfs are too much. DJ's pemon paw is almost unusable.
dvj now is kinda like T7 kaz, kaz had mediocre mids while dvj has horrible lows aside from hellsweep
i thought tmm gonna play dvj on that thumbnail but i guess i will never see that concept anymore..
after that intro i cant keep defending the old man allegations tmm....