I swear this channel is where dragon Ball Sonic and Pokemon fans unite as a fan of all three franchises I love it not to mention Saiyan scholar's personality and original opinions and his unique style of making videos Chef kiss intensifies
@@SaiyanScholar agreed you should be in charge of the stories if sega never hires you they are fools you got me 100% infested bro keep up the good work😎👍
Very flattered that you were partially-inspired by my old Metal Sonic theory video! And while I no longer stand by the theory itself - it's still awesome to see people reinventing the idea, and presenting the concept in "AU story form"! Great job Saiyan Scholar! This was a very nice surprise! 💚
I get why you don’t you stand by it anymore. Maybe because how would present Eggman get the Sonic from another timeline and have him fight this timeline’s Sonic?
@@RealAbzAR2 To make it worse, imagine that metal sonic doesn't remember any of this, instead having the memories of the events as nightmares, only to one day discover all of these locked up memories, and seeing himself as a monster...... I think i went overboard for a story arc, i don't know.
I mean it makes sense considering how time travel is a big aspect in sonic cd and how metal sonic practically came out of nowhere and robotnik shouldn’t be able to even come close to creating a robot like metal sonic hell silver sonic and mecha sonic don’t even come close to the power of metal sonic and they came out AFTER sonic cd
Actually, the one flaw of this video is that Sonic CD, according to an interview, and evidence within the games (comparing Sonic's robot doubles), takes place AFTER S3&K. Don't quote me on that, but it makes so much sense, that it became my headcanon.
This was a great story! I wish Robotnik was a serious villain like this. His schemes are way too goofy today lol. Also, this is how I imagined metal’s origins. It would be much cooler if Metal was actually a defeated Sonic roboticized. Too bad sega didn’t think of it at the time.
In sonic heroes metal sonic was supposed too team with ray and mighty and slowly remember that he is sonic but there were no main villain and the story was just too dark so they made metal the villain and didn't find someone else to team with mighty and ray
I truly wished the game used these characters, and had this kind of depth. This is how I always imagined how a serious Robotnik would be. Fantastic work!
I did a joke that metal sonic is like doomslayer Robotnik: Tell me do you have nothing to say to your creator before you strike him down Metal sonic: No
I miss this level of darker storytelling for Sonic the hedgehog. I hear words being thrown that it was “the dark ages”, but I just look at it as something in the same prospect as DC comics. Darker isn’t always worse. There’s uplifting moments. But the glory of old Sonic games was the intense stakes left in everything.
I'm a man of Dark and Scary stories...but this...this broke me and that makes me...actually scared me, and you are the first person to do that.Your a man of focus,patience, and Pure fucking sheer will...i love ya man!
@@SaiyanScholar umm this theory isn't for me.is it really hard to believe in Robotnik simply building his robotic version of the blue blur? Eggman was pretty much fighting fire with fire.... I'm sorry but I'm calling BS on this personally.
@@SaiyanScholar plus Metal Sonic claiming he is the real sonic is quite common in duplicate stories where the evil version of robot says I'm superior so I am the real one
25:18 With that, id like to see a what if where it has sonic and metal teaming up to find the chaos emeralds, so they can use them to restore metal sonic to his original body, would be a DOPE idea and I know the emeralds can do it. They ARE infinite power after all.💪🏾
@@youseftheh4869 U do know in the games the emeralds are stated to have infinite power right? It's both that do have that actually, but the master emerald not only CONTROLS the chaos emeralds( emphasis on the word master) but is also stronger than them.
I mean Metal Sonic is kinda like Cell They were both made by an evil scientist to destroy the main character They both come from the future They can both copy other people's abilities
I think he probably turned into Dark Sonic at some point... But, I think Robotnik already knew about his Dark form and tried not to make him unleash it, whilst making him feel more pain... As you said, it took Robotnik a LOT of time to plan this, and it won't be surprising if the execution of the plan doesn't come with an inch of failure...
Oh my god, it's somebody who knows who Quint is! Praise the lords! I'm not the only person who's played the Megaman Gameboy games! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I guess the only ones left in the future timeline would be Knuckles (since he would protect the Master Emerald no matter what), Shadow (if Robotnik decides to wake him), Silver (if he comes back from the future, although I don't know how this future and Silver's future would collide), Blaze (she would still be the guardian of the Sol Emeralds), and Omega and Gamma, if Robotnik decides to make them. If the rest of the world is robotisized, the rest of Sonic's friends would be dead, namely Cream, Big, Rouge, Charmy, Vector, Espio and the rest of the inhabitants of Sonic's world.
What happened is, from my point of view: Since this version of eggman/robotnik roboticized the whole planet, he inadvertedley killed all plant's, ergo: no more oxygen, ergo: everyone dies, the end.
Silver manages to survive (due to his telekenetic abilities) and leads the last remnants of the freedom fighters with blaze and future knuckles. They occasionally fight future shadow (who robotnik decided to wake) and metal sonic. But they still cant manage to defeat robotniks forces. (like in dbz with trunks, gohan and the androids) But eventually silver and his team manage to use the chaos emeralds to go back in time, where they team up with modern sonic, classic sonic, tails, shadow and knuckles to defeat his future counterparts.
That would make Metal in Sonic heroes make even more sense cause he would have wanted revenge on Robotnik and destroy his world like he did his and show his superiority as the 'true' Sonic I would love to see Metal Sonic raise his hand to Robotnik in a metallic bloody rage and become something like a twisted successor to Robotnik after murdering him as the main villain just to add to sith vibes of this fan theory.
I’ll be honest, things happened and I found myself unable to watch your channel for a long long time. Today’s the day that I finally get to sit down and binge your stuff- new AND old. Keep being awesome, Scholar!
If sonic had been near the emeralds while in his state of mind his rage would of forced an uncontrollable Dark Form in which sonic would rip eggman to shreds, and then...well I don’t know what sonic would do at that point
@Saiyan Scholar. Im starting to really like Sonic and i already like SSJ4 so there should be a Super Sonic 4. Super Sonic 4 is probably related to the werehog.
Lol, Metal Sonic can keep up with Sonic so many times while Infinite unironically thought that it's was okay to let you and him alive for no freaking reason 😂
Here's a little something I composed for when Sonic finds out who Metal Sonic really is, based on the Savitar reveal from Season Three of The Flash. Enjoy! Sonic: "I know who you really are." Metal: "It's about time." Sonic: "Yes, it is. Everything with you is about time, isn't it? The past, the present, the future - you know all of it, right? And you know everything about me! About Knuckles! About Tails. And Amy! You know our strengths. You know our fears. You know how much we love each other. And you know how to use that love against us. All this time we thought that we couldn't stop you because you were one step ahead, but that's not it! You don't just know what's gonna happen to us. You were there. You lived it. You remember... when you were me." *presure hatches on Metal Sonic's face before it finally comes loose, allowing Metal to finally reach up and remove it, revealing the hideously scarred face underneath* Evil Sonic: "Like I told you from the beginning, my loathsome copy... I... am the real Sonic the Hedgehog."
Knuckles: You killed Sonic. Metal Sonic: No, i am Sonic. Knuckles: No. Impossible. Metal Sonic: Join me so we can kill Eggman for turning me into this monster and killing our friends. Knuckles: Yes. Time to break the egg.
This storytelling is amazing. It has a extremely dark tone , and I love dark sonic games so please get sega to hire you , I would love this story to be cannon. Great job !
WOW!! you did an amazing job in this video by understanding the capabilities of robotnik and what a man with that IQ can do i liked the depth of the story and the way it took, you even gave metal sonic a proper story and some personality i would love to see a fan game based on this story (but not that dark) or even a spin-off of the movie
Nah, he lured him onto the center of the room, where he traped him in an electric chain just like in Unleashed. Then he simply locked him up until Tails and the others bailed him out for the second time, and then we end it with the line *"I HATE THAT HEDGEHOOOOOOG!!!"*
And then there's my version where Eggman makes a full on clone of Sonic who could easily impersonate the real one and break down all the heroes friendships, but then he realises he forgot to make a robot the past few weeks.
My problem with people using Metal Overlord's dialogue to support the theory that he is a robotocized Sonic, is that it's also very cherry picked. In the same game he specifically states that he was created for the sole purpose of destroying Sonic. That doesn't sound like a Sonic that turned robot to me, but rather that Metal was simply Eggman's magnum opus (and it's not as if he didn't have experience making robot Sonics beforehand). The OVA even gives a plausible explanation for why Metal is so close to Sonic, so it's not as if there isn't any reason the two are so closely connected.
If I'm not mistaken, I think Metal might be one of the first if not the first robot Sonic Eggman made. Since CD, to my understanding, canonically takes place before sonic 2, Metal actually predates Silver and Mecha Sonic, as well as obviously all other copies of Sonic and his friends made after the classics. My personal belief is that Metal does indeed come from the future. Either being a roboticized bad future Sonic or being sent back in time by a future eggman who'd finally perfected Metal's design and sent him to the past in order to help the past Eggman. That would explain why Metal is the "First" robo-sonic, but manages to be better than literally every other robot Eggman's ever made.
Doesn't always mean from the ground up. Yeah Robotnik created him by roboticizing Sonic, the entire point of roboticizing him not killing him so that he can be sent back in time to kill sonic. So the line would still track in that scenario. it can even be read that metal Sonic created this, his Metal overlord body, for the sole purpose of destroying Sonic. Although that tracks not as well.
Very will done! Great video. I have always had the theory of how Sonic became metal Sonic in mind. I liked the Star Wars episode 3 reference. Good job on this story. Keep up the good work.
You haven't any idea how I hold your story to heart and am striving to tell stories of characters I love in a different light which could be held true. Thank you for this incredible piece of story telling.
@@SaiyanScholar Oh that kinda makes sense It IS strange we never saw the emeralds in cd, but if they were there, no doubt eggy wouldve lost😂👍🏽 I like the idea u had, it's a way to box sonic in. Although I think that with the amount of time sonic had on mobius, the 7th wouldve shown up eventually.
@@hoshiryu CD takes place between 2, but keep in mind THIS story doesnt I'd say CD took place over days, THIS takes place over MONTHS, and tbh, 2 happened not long after 1. With how much time that passes in this story, no DOUBT the 7th popped up eventually, not to mention sonic should still have the other 6, as each individual emerald has UNLIMITED power, he would eventually learn to tap into it, and find the 7th chaos emerald too.
Great, now I can't play Table Tennis as Metal Sonic in the Olympics without thinking of cities being destroyed, murder, and mental torture...In all seriousness though, it seems like a lot of effort went into this story. Great work!
I've seen this theory before but It's not true tho, Eggman stated that Metal Sonic It's his greatest creation tho There's a roboticized version of Sonic in the archie comics called Mecha Sonic
@@ClassicssgamesGameplays Well It's stated that he's not but I get what you mean, He's a roboticized version of Sonic in a future timeline but He isn't. If we're taking the Sonic Rivals Eggman NEGA He created an inferior version of Metal Sonic which is called Metal Sonic 3.0 but he looks different and It's just another copy so
canonically speaking sonic CD was before sonic 2 other than that nice theopry i heard it before from sega scourge but you made it a fantastic story you're a goddman ROLE MODEL
As much as we love the interesting and unique take of your story. It was a bit unnecessarily dark to us. Which brings up a great question. Does a story need to be super dark and edgy for it to counted as "good"? What do you think fellow scholars?
Woah, well that explains mecha sonic from SMBZ, it’s kinda like the madness went to his head, lashing out and killing Robotnik, but in his hungry, murderous rampage, he in the process killed his friends.
This is such incredible story telling. I was really in the mood, but I couldn't help but lose it when I heard this! XD 15:44 Still, this is such a dark and incredible story that'd keep any Sonic fan on edge. Keep up the good work!
14:19 The fact that he was thinking about how he failed to save all those creatures instead of the fact that he was quite literally at Robotnik’s mercy, on the brink of death, shows just how much he cares. He wasn’t thinking about himself, he was thinking about the creatures who Robotnik was endlessly slaughtering.
That story was epic and I was hooked. I got my Sega CD and sonic CD back in 93 and still have it to this day and metsl.sonic was always an intriguing character and that game.itself. became.my favorite In the classic franchise. Thank you scholar for.all the work.do and you made..my inner 10 yr old self remember how much this game.meant to me on that Christmas
This Is Something I Believe I Haven't Seen This Video But The Theory Of Metal Sonic Being Sonic Roboticized Is Something I Believe! He Has Free Will He Can Feel Emotions He Literally Identifies Himself With Sonic His Speed Is As Fast As Sonic And That Line In Forces "Why Make A Copy Of Something That Already Isn't Real".....Makes This Theory Seem Even More Real
I can go darker. What if sonic was in fact aware but only a little of every atrocity he has done as Metal Sonic but his spirit and the Robotised body was like a prisoner in a heavily guarded cell. He can see everything, all his actions, every drop of blood and every dead body left to rot. Living as a silent prisoner broken down, in the deepest depths of darkness in one’s mind almost forever
Wow,this has to be one of the most darkest Sonic The Hedgehog l have ever seen in my life! I feel so bad for Metal Sonic now. He badly needs a hug and someone to tell that he is being tricked.
Haven't even seen the video yet, and i know for a fact that it's gonna be a really good one! May i request something? Can you please do a video on the Xenoblade Chronicles franchise if you have time?
Props to you for this story, which is my headcanon now, and Robotnik channeling his inner Palpatine. Although considering the Death Egg is one mustache away from a lawsuit with Lucasfilm, that's to be expected. Even moreso considering this scenario would make Metal something akin to Darth Vader (I totally heard the song that played when the operating table with Vader on it rising when Robotnik first laid eyes on Metal.) Robotnik: It seems in your anger, you killed her. Sonic: NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Yikes Thus got DARK lol I always thought that if sonic lost to eggman, it wouldn't be from sheer numbers, but from eggman taking a hostage like he did in Adventure and generations. Low key if we're being honest, eggman CAN'T beat sonic, not on his own. Crazy thing is everytime they fight, Sonic actually holds BACK on him. We see this in Cds opening cutscene, when sonic runs up to little planet near the END. 1 moment he's doing a brisk run, then all of a sudden we see a BOOM and sonic dashes up the chain in SECONDS, and that's prolly not even his top speed. Eggman is smart but idk if he can create anything to counter sonic going all out using only HIS tech. The only versions of things we have seen able to counter base sonic or over power him would be the egg salamanders from the super boss fight of rush(but this was him and eggman negas team work), technically metal overlord(but that was after metal went rogue, did tons of extensive data gathering, AND had energy from the chaos emeralds and copy data of shadows chaos data), the Time eater(which was basically a demon/god he somehow managed to capture), the phantom ruby(which technically wasn't his as they were basically copies of the one from classic Sonics world) If I'm being honest, eggman legit stopped being able to contend with sonic after we got a feat from him in Secret rings, where mans literally RUNS fast enough to cross multiple universes to make his way back home. At that point, none of eggman solo tricks should be able to beat sonic, who I would say has been HUMORING eggman this whole time besides the times eggman basically uses GOD'S to fight 4 him😂
@@SaiyanScholar Yeah, it's crazy how In a sense, Sonic holds back on eggman. Eggman makes him mad sometimes but I think it's his morality that stops sonic from turning up on eggman and ending him. We see this in the Idw comics where sonic let's his morality get in the way of Shadow killing Mr tinker. 1 well placed spin dash or a chop like Shadow did in his game and the Dr is gonna need a morticuan😂
@@somedudewhodraws9377 But the problem with that is that games actually portray shadow badly, both don't kill HUMANS, but they DESTROY gods and monsters lol Sonic on record has killed The bio lizard Solaris Dark gaia Iblis(but the thing is technically immortal) And technically Metal sonic more times than I can count lol Shadow has some bodies on him too, but it's eggman they would have a problem with considering he's technically a human. Both are willing to kill, just not someone human.
Off topic; but I’d love to see your views on the strength of sonic and shadow. I remember when shadow was introduced he was considered to be far superior to sonic. But now sonic is basically just a god in the series with a villain to compete with each time. Shadow is just absolutely side lined as if he is as useful as tails in combat. It’s a mighty shame. Seeing your thoughts on this would certainly be interesting. Either way this was an unexpected and certainly amazing video! Your writing skills are honesty fantastic! Keep it up!
Watching this video gives me some "alone infection" vibes because it feels like one of those songs where you are the broken-corrupted hero that has been through everything
I'm a huge fan of the bright characters with a dark story Superman in Injustice or Goku and Vegeta accepting their fate in the Future Trunks Saga in Dragon Ball thank you
Really liked the video!! Although another point of view i´ve come up with tells the story of that, at 16:31, Sonic would have said no its not true and would remember the times he used to defeat robotnik before having any friends (when Sonic 1 happened) and thought that he could still have a chance alone against everyone. This would be a feeling of pride and superiorness in Sonic, and he´d overcome his fear like a true hero. Such anger in him would start making him turn yellow. It was the power of the chaos emeralds!! but he was too far away to gain their power. But the mix of outrage in him and the no possibilities of him turning into super sonic ended up turning him into fleetway Sonic. In the end, although Tails and Amy and most of the little animals were already robotisized, Sonic would save a number of 20 remaining living ones from his planet after having made robotnik and his robots have to retreat at this new speed Sonic had, as Fleetway Sonic is faster and more powerful than regular super sonic. Finally, after robotnik´s retreat, robotnik and his robots would stay and live in Little Planet. The chain would then have been broken and fleetway Sonic would end up killing the remaining 20 sooner or later as he would no longer be able to control himself. After the last one died, Sonic will feel lonely and loose his transformation in a number of days. He´d start to starve while there´s no life left but himself on his planet and then he´d just give up upon robotnik and be robotisized by the doctor. Therefore, the end would be the same as the one of the video.
Saiyan Scholar: Tails was still young and green, Me: No, he's actually yellow. P.S: This has way better writing than all the games written by Ken Pontac and Warren Graff
Maybe when the race was near that bit of soul he had left lost on purpose because he didn't want the present sonic to be roboticized and put through torture
This was brilliant and is very well made, it actually made sense and could be canon fa sho, it would also explain why sonic mind scan was needed and why Metal Sonic didn’t let Sonic save him when he says there can only be one Sonic
“It seems in your anger you killed her” Took that line right out of Star Wars. In fact the Star Wars parallels in this story are pretty obvious.
Haha I know man, I thought Metal and Vader were the way to go!
Saiyan Scholar Yeah I noticed right away being the Star Wars fan that I am lol.
raymondmontes10 0 Yeah and this Robotnick gives off palpatine's vibes tbh
And robotic is palps
@@marson3000 same here
I swear this channel is where dragon Ball Sonic and Pokemon fans unite as a fan of all three franchises I love it not to mention Saiyan scholar's personality and original opinions and his unique style of making videos
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@@SaiyanScholar hedge ball the poke scholar
Ikr bru
@@lanorris_reed3909 ye bru
It’s the triforce
We really need that level of storytelling in Sonic back.
I know!!
AMEN. 😎😎😎💙💙💙⚡⚡⚡ The modern writers ain't got nothing on Saiyan Scholar!~ :D
@@SaiyanScholar agreed you should be in charge of the stories if sega never hires you they are fools you got me 100% infested bro keep up the good work😎👍
Sonic had a story this good? I thought a Sonic story this good could only be fan made.
@@zombiedemon1762 it is fan made but It's my head canon😆
Wow this was Too Dark for a Cartoon Hedgehog vs a Fat man who want to take over the world.
Outstanding job
Thank you Scholar!!
Well...
It's not like the franchise hasn't done stuff like this across most sonic related media before.
@@SaiyanScholar you are welcome
@@lightgivemepower6425 true
The darker the better.
Metal sonic was always confusing
Oh yes! Hope you enjoy this story!
Very flattered that you were partially-inspired by my old Metal Sonic theory video! And while I no longer stand by the theory itself - it's still awesome to see people reinventing the idea, and presenting the concept in "AU story form"! Great job
Saiyan Scholar! This was a very nice surprise! 💚
Hey Sega Scourge! Thank you so much for the comment! I credited your video below. It totally fascinated me! Hope you have a great day!
How come you dont stand by the theory anymore?
Why don’t you stand by the theory? Is it because of the way metal is portraited in the new comics? Do you have a new one??
I get why you don’t you stand by it anymore. Maybe because how would present Eggman get the Sonic from another timeline and have him fight this timeline’s Sonic?
Have you cancelled the what if sonic lost his memories series or not
The true complete version of the sonic cd bad ending.
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I cant bear to listen and watch this video after 15:17. its too much for me 😟
@@RealAbzAR2 To make it worse, imagine that metal sonic doesn't remember any of this, instead having the memories of the events as nightmares, only to one day discover all of these locked up memories, and seeing himself as a monster...... I think i went overboard for a story arc, i don't know.
@@pancho855 yeah spooky.
Very dark
Fucking dark
Eggman: “You may know everything I’m going to do, but that won’t help you for I know everything you’re going to do! *STRANGE ISN’T IT!?”*
I mean it makes sense considering how time travel is a big aspect in sonic cd and how metal sonic practically came out of nowhere and robotnik shouldn’t be able to even come close to creating a robot like metal sonic hell silver sonic and mecha sonic don’t even come close to the power of metal sonic and they came out AFTER sonic cd
Good points!
But if mecha sonic had his smbz powers then what would happen if he was created instead of metal sonic in this story
Actually, the one flaw of this video is that Sonic CD, according to an interview, and evidence within the games (comparing Sonic's robot doubles), takes place AFTER S3&K. Don't quote me on that, but it makes so much sense, that it became my headcanon.
@@pancho855 but what about tails not being cannon in sonic cd?
@@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531 My guess is he was working on the tornado
Wow, I wasn't expecting a unique Sonic story. This is great Saiyan Scholar.
Thank you so much man I put a lot of time into this one!
@@SaiyanScholar yeah amazing work man and i honestly believe this story is true😎👍
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 its not true cause sonic has transformations
@@airdraco3678 except he didn't have the emeralds and i know it's not really true but it is in my head canon😉😁
the real question is where is the chaos emeralds and where is Knuckles
This is why Metal never talks. He is traumatized.
He talks in Sonic Heroes
So basically this is the story "what if Robotnik was darth Sidious"
lol
@glace galie. What if Robotnik turned every pokemon into metal pokemon? What if Robotnik went to DBS for Metal Goku?
This is "What if Dr. Ivo Robotnik, also known as the "Eggman" to many, became an absolute monster after his defeat in STH1?"
Sonic Wars
What if Yami Bakura didn't lose all the time.
“After Tails dies”
Me: “What is this coming out of my eyes”
Imma share this video with my cousins, they fans of Metal Sonic.
You will love this story, Scholar!
God damn,im-
starting to feel that thing
what was that named again?
*sob*
f-feelings?
yeah,that *quiet sobbing*.
All hail shadow
All hail
@epic donny. I wish Sonic could become a metal werehog and absorb Dark Gaia.
This was a great story! I wish Robotnik was a serious villain like this. His schemes are way too goofy today lol. Also, this is how I imagined metal’s origins. It would be much cooler if Metal was actually a defeated Sonic roboticized. Too bad sega didn’t think of it at the time.
Eggman is just way too soft for anything like this now
In sonic heroes metal sonic was supposed too team with ray and mighty and slowly remember that he is sonic but there were no main villain and the story was just too dark so they made metal the villain and didn't find someone else to team with mighty and ray
I truly wished the game used these characters, and had this kind of depth. This is how I always imagined how a serious Robotnik would be. Fantastic work!
Robotnik is meant to be a sinister being lol
@@SaiyanScholar exactly bro i hate this comedy villain they need to take sonic in an serious direction i miss stories like sonic adventure 2
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 Blame the people who said: SoNic iThF a CaRtUn HehHgOg WhY ItS TaKIn IsELf SeRyOusly?
I did a joke that metal sonic is like doomslayer
Robotnik: Tell me do you have nothing to say to your creator before you strike him down
Metal sonic: No
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 Well. Why not both? Eggman is a laughable eggshaped narcissist, that wouldn't ever hesitate to take things too far.
I miss this level of darker storytelling for Sonic the hedgehog. I hear words being thrown that it was “the dark ages”, but I just look at it as something in the same prospect as DC comics. Darker isn’t always worse. There’s uplifting moments. But the glory of old Sonic games was the intense stakes left in everything.
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Exactly we need saiyan scholar making the script for sonic games! Hire this man damn it all sega!😎👍
Bro.... you’ve outdone yourself once again. This was absolutely fan-friggin-tastic! So great THANK YOU
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@@SaiyanScholar I don't believe you 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡!
Evans it is good cartoon. Bruh
Evans it is good cartoon. 😐
@@evansitisgoodcartoon.5502 BOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS
I'm a man of Dark and Scary stories...but this...this broke me and that makes me...actually scared me, and you are the first person to do that.Your a man of focus,patience, and Pure fucking sheer will...i love ya man!
Thank you for watching! 🖤
the John Wick of youtube lol
@JohnWickYT
Robotnik is basically the emporer in this
I tried to make it look like that ll
Darth vader
Metal sonic
@saiyan scholar yeah i saw the refferences
I love Dark Sonic stories! Never heard this theory about Metal Sonic
It's a good one!!
It's a good one It's by the sega scourge if you want to check it out just look up the sega scourge what if metal sonic is sonic robotisized
@@SaiyanScholar umm this theory isn't for me.is it really hard to believe in Robotnik simply building his robotic version of the blue blur?
Eggman was pretty much fighting fire with fire....
I'm sorry but I'm calling BS on this personally.
@@SaiyanScholar plus Metal Sonic claiming he is the real sonic is quite common in duplicate stories where the evil version of robot says I'm superior so I am the real one
The transformation or type of story lol
25:18
With that, id like to see a what if where it has sonic and metal teaming up to find the chaos emeralds, so they can use them to restore metal sonic to his original body, would be a DOPE idea and I know the emeralds can do it.
They ARE infinite power after all.💪🏾
OH YEAH!!!!
Chaos emeralds doesnt have infinite power its the master emerald giving them poer the master emerald is the one that has infinite power
@@youseftheh4869
U do know in the games the emeralds are stated to have infinite power right?
It's both that do have that actually, but the master emerald not only CONTROLS the chaos emeralds( emphasis on the word master) but is also stronger than them.
@@youseftheh4869 the chaos emeralds have infinite power it's been stated several times man
imagine if this was canon to metal sonics Timeline. That would be really dark and depressing.
Lol
I would feel VERY sorry for Metal Sonic, I mean it's not gonna make me feel better than considering him a jerk, but that sucks man
This was honestly one of your best video's and I honestly hope you start to make longer videos like this because honestly this is really great. 10/10
Thank you so much!!
@@SaiyanScholar Oh and I'm really happy you called him dr Robertnic and not egg man
"One more push should do it."
What is this, Cell pushing Gohan to go SSJ2???
LMAO!
Lol🤣🤣
Egg man: breaks sonic down. Sonic: day of fate (Jonathan young version) plays
Or labor lmao
I mean Metal Sonic is kinda like Cell
They were both made by an evil scientist to destroy the main character
They both come from the future
They can both copy other people's abilities
I think he probably turned into Dark Sonic at some point...
But, I think Robotnik already knew about his Dark form and tried not to make him unleash it, whilst making him feel more pain...
As you said, it took Robotnik a LOT of time to plan this, and it won't be surprising if the execution of the plan doesn't come with an inch of failure...
Or fleetway
So according to this, Metal Sonic is a cooler Quint (for those who don't know, Quint is future Mega Man reprogrammed by Wily).
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Seems like it
Seems like it
Oh my god, it's somebody who knows who Quint is!
Praise the lords!
I'm not the only person who's played the Megaman Gameboy games!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I guess the only ones left in the future timeline would be Knuckles (since he would protect the Master Emerald no matter what), Shadow (if Robotnik decides to wake him), Silver (if he comes back from the future, although I don't know how this future and Silver's future would collide), Blaze (she would still be the guardian of the Sol Emeralds), and Omega and Gamma, if Robotnik decides to make them.
If the rest of the world is robotisized, the rest of Sonic's friends would be dead, namely Cream, Big, Rouge, Charmy, Vector, Espio and the rest of the inhabitants of Sonic's world.
This is very true! Good point!
*cough..cough*
Metal Knuckles?
*COUGH*
Even when his the first sonic his still not the first hedghog no wonder shadow calls him faker
What happened is, from my point of view: Since this version of eggman/robotnik roboticized the whole planet, he inadvertedley killed all plant's, ergo: no more oxygen, ergo: everyone dies, the end.
Silver manages to survive (due to his telekenetic abilities) and leads the last remnants of the freedom fighters with blaze and future knuckles. They occasionally fight future shadow (who robotnik decided to wake) and metal sonic. But they still cant manage to defeat robotniks forces. (like in dbz with trunks, gohan and the androids)
But eventually silver and his team manage to use the chaos emeralds to go back in time, where they team up with modern sonic, classic sonic, tails, shadow and knuckles to defeat his future counterparts.
That would make Metal in Sonic heroes make even more sense cause he would have wanted revenge on Robotnik and destroy his world like he did his and show his superiority as the 'true' Sonic I would love to see Metal Sonic raise his hand to Robotnik in a metallic bloody rage and become something like a twisted successor to Robotnik after murdering him as the main villain just to add to sith vibes of this fan theory.
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Isn't that kinda what they did in IDW?
I’ll be honest, things happened and I found myself unable to watch your channel for a long long time. Today’s the day that I finally get to sit down and binge your stuff- new AND old.
Keep being awesome, Scholar!
Thank you so much!! 🖤
@@SaiyanScholar Anytime brother, just happy to see how you’ve grown so well!
Lucky Eggman..dark sonic wasn’t born yet..
Lol
If sonic had been near the emeralds while in his state of mind his rage would of forced an uncontrollable Dark Form in which sonic would rip eggman to shreds, and then...well I don’t know what sonic would do at that point
@Saiyan Scholar. Im starting to really like Sonic and i already like SSJ4 so there should be a Super Sonic 4. Super Sonic 4 is probably related to the werehog.
I know right
Haha yes fleetway= dark sonic wasn't born
Fleetway is dark super sonic comics
Not canon games and cartoons
Lol, Metal Sonic can keep up with Sonic so many times while Infinite unironically thought that it's was okay to let you and him alive for no freaking reason 😂
lol
Here's a little something I composed for when Sonic finds out who Metal Sonic really is, based on the Savitar reveal from Season Three of The Flash. Enjoy!
Sonic: "I know who you really are."
Metal: "It's about time."
Sonic: "Yes, it is. Everything with you is about time, isn't it? The past, the present, the future - you know all of it, right? And you know everything about me! About Knuckles! About Tails. And Amy! You know our strengths. You know our fears. You know how much we love each other. And you know how to use that love against us. All this time we thought that we couldn't stop you because you were one step ahead, but that's not it! You don't just know what's gonna happen to us. You were there. You lived it. You remember... when you were me."
*presure hatches on Metal Sonic's face before it finally comes loose, allowing Metal to finally reach up and remove it, revealing the hideously scarred face underneath*
Evil Sonic: "Like I told you from the beginning, my loathsome copy... I... am the real Sonic the Hedgehog."
Knuckles: You killed Sonic. Metal Sonic: No, i am Sonic. Knuckles: No. Impossible. Metal Sonic: Join me so we can kill Eggman for turning me into this monster and killing our friends. Knuckles: Yes. Time to break the egg.
This storytelling is amazing. It has a extremely dark tone , and I love dark sonic games so please get sega to hire you , I would love this story to be cannon. Great job !
WOW!!
you did an amazing job in this video by understanding the capabilities of robotnik and what a man with that IQ can do
i liked the depth of the story and the way it took, you even gave metal sonic a proper story and some personality
i would love to see a fan game based on this story (but not that dark) or even a spin-off of the movie
He is totally underrated and made a joke out of!
The real answer how Eggman captured sonic! Eggman broke sonic kneecaps like a boss.
LOL!
Nah,he lured him in with chilli dogs
Nah... He electrocuted him
Nah, he lured him onto the center of the room, where he traped him in an electric chain just like in Unleashed. Then he simply locked him up until Tails and the others bailed him out for the second time, and then we end it with the line *"I HATE THAT HEDGEHOOOOOOG!!!"*
That moment when Robotnic finally becomes a chad instead of a noob.
And decided to get serious becoming Palpatine
He still didn't talk to real women
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Reject women
Embrace machines
@@Breakaway-ic5gj than again robotnic is a gamer
@@basilplushie2534 In this story he is playing games in real life. Resetting time and all
That’s deep and dark man
You will love the ending!
I already did
And then there's my version where Eggman makes a full on clone of Sonic who could easily impersonate the real one and break down all the heroes friendships, but then he realises he forgot to make a robot the past few weeks.
Sonic is my favorite character
he's awesome
Ok.
My problem with people using Metal Overlord's dialogue to support the theory that he is a robotocized Sonic, is that it's also very cherry picked. In the same game he specifically states that he was created for the sole purpose of destroying Sonic. That doesn't sound like a Sonic that turned robot to me, but rather that Metal was simply Eggman's magnum opus (and it's not as if he didn't have experience making robot Sonics beforehand). The OVA even gives a plausible explanation for why Metal is so close to Sonic, so it's not as if there isn't any reason the two are so closely connected.
If I'm not mistaken, I think Metal might be one of the first if not the first robot Sonic Eggman made. Since CD, to my understanding, canonically takes place before sonic 2, Metal actually predates Silver and Mecha Sonic, as well as obviously all other copies of Sonic and his friends made after the classics. My personal belief is that Metal does indeed come from the future. Either being a roboticized bad future Sonic or being sent back in time by a future eggman who'd finally perfected Metal's design and sent him to the past in order to help the past Eggman. That would explain why Metal is the "First" robo-sonic, but manages to be better than literally every other robot Eggman's ever made.
Doesn't always mean from the ground up. Yeah Robotnik created him by roboticizing Sonic, the entire point of roboticizing him not killing him so that he can be sent back in time to kill sonic. So the line would still track in that scenario. it can even be read that metal Sonic created this, his Metal overlord body, for the sole purpose of destroying Sonic. Although that tracks not as well.
"LONG TIME NO SEE, SONIC, MY LOATHSOME COPY!"
Holy crap this was dark. But beautiful at the same time. Please consider making some kind of redemption story for Metal Sonic.
What a great story. U can tel u put alot of effort into this story. It gives us a answer to where metal Sonic could have came from.
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Eggman copied sonic Power and put it into metal sonic
@@deb2281 yeah if you watch the ova but this theory is an good background story for metal sonic in the games
Sonic is metal sonic robitocozed
So that means knuckles can be robitocozed metal knuckles
And Team Metal could be robitocozed versions of team sonic
Bring them on!!
Not really it just bots eggman made 😂
Mecha sonic is sonic roboticized .
@@leont4062 its a theory im not fully sure if eggman makes his bots than the main sonic characters in an alternate timeline are no different
@@leont4062 no, Mecha Sonic was built by Eggman/Robotnik
GOD DANN!!! This is so good!!! For now on this will be my personal headcanon for metal sonics origin. Keep up thr amazing work scholar 👊👊👊
Wow, thanks! :D :D :D
Saiyan Scholar is a Goddamn Legendary Writer!!
Thank you so much Scholar!!
@@SaiyanScholar 👍😏 No Problem!
Saiyan Scholar You are like Tien A GODDAMN ROLE MODEL !!!
Sega should hire this man!😎👍
This was CRAZY dope and i could see the whole thing play out BEAUTIFULLY. Greta work crew
Very will done! Great video. I have always had the theory of how Sonic became metal Sonic in mind. I liked the Star Wars episode 3 reference. Good job on this story. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much!
"It seems in your anger you... killed her."
You haven't any idea how I hold your story to heart and am striving to tell stories of characters I love in a different light which could be held true. Thank you for this incredible piece of story telling.
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I would think that sonic would have the idea of getting the Chaos emeralds.
Super sonic could decimate the egg fleet in SECONDS
Well, Robotnik had the time stones! He was always a step ahead lol No emeralds in CD?
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Oh that kinda makes sense
It IS strange we never saw the emeralds in cd, but if they were there, no doubt eggy wouldve lost😂👍🏽
I like the idea u had, it's a way to box sonic in.
Although I think that with the amount of time sonic had on mobius, the 7th wouldve shown up eventually.
Hmmm but if this plays after 1 and before 2 then there is no 7th Emerald yet so no Super Sonic
Wait I swear Sonic CD takes place before Sonic 2 so he wouldn't even know about the seventh chaos emerald.
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CD takes place between 2, but keep in mind THIS story doesnt
I'd say CD took place over days, THIS takes place over MONTHS, and tbh, 2 happened not long after 1.
With how much time that passes in this story, no DOUBT the 7th popped up eventually, not to mention sonic should still have the other 6, as each individual emerald has UNLIMITED power, he would eventually learn to tap into it, and find the 7th chaos emerald too.
I love dark stories for characters meant for children.
lmao
Great, now I can't play Table Tennis as Metal Sonic in the Olympics without thinking of cities being destroyed, murder, and mental torture...In all seriousness though, it seems like a lot of effort went into this story. Great work!
Lmao
Big gete Sonic
lol!
the big gete star enabled me to cheat death...
*HOW COULD THIS BE!???!!?!!?*
I've seen this theory before but It's not true tho, Eggman stated that Metal Sonic It's his greatest creation tho There's a roboticized version of Sonic in the archie comics called Mecha Sonic
You will love this story nonetheless :D
yes but mecha sonic is an intent of making a metal version of sonic but metal sonic is the sonic of the first timeline robotisized.
@@ClassicssgamesGameplays Well It's stated that he's not but I get what you mean, He's a roboticized version of Sonic in a future timeline but He isn't. If we're taking the Sonic Rivals Eggman NEGA He created an inferior version of Metal Sonic which is called Metal Sonic 3.0 but he looks different and It's just another copy so
@@knuckson8304 you´re right i didn´t think o´ that. Well stated
@@knuckson8304 ima suscribe yo channel
I remember reading through a bunch of these theories myself.
They are so interesting!!
canonically speaking sonic CD was before sonic 2 other than that nice theopry i heard it before from sega scourge but you made it a fantastic story you're a goddman ROLE MODEL
Amazing feedback thank you!
This should've been the story of *_"The Hedgehog who laughs"._*
As much as we love the interesting and unique take of your story. It was a bit unnecessarily dark to us. Which brings up a great question. Does a story need to be super dark and edgy for it to counted as "good"? What do you think fellow scholars?
Not at all! I just felt this part of the time line deserved to be dark
Woah, well that explains mecha sonic from SMBZ, it’s kinda like the madness went to his head, lashing out and killing Robotnik, but in his hungry, murderous rampage, he in the process killed his friends.
That makes sense! Sonic wanted the Chaos Emeralds so everyone could feel the pain, sadness and trauma he felt all those years ago.
This is such incredible story telling. I was really in the mood, but I couldn't help but lose it when I heard this! XD 15:44
Still, this is such a dark and incredible story that'd keep any Sonic fan on edge. Keep up the good work!
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The fact that he was thinking about how he failed to save all those creatures instead of the fact that he was quite literally at Robotnik’s mercy, on the brink of death, shows just how much he cares. He wasn’t thinking about himself, he was thinking about the creatures who Robotnik was endlessly slaughtering.
Sonic: "You may know everything I'm going to do but that won't help you 'cause I know everything you're going to do! Strange isn't it!?"
Yes!
See metal Sonic in a different way?
so he's not the wholesome adorable lonely superweapon who just needs a friend that I thought he was?
That story was epic and I was hooked. I got my Sega CD and sonic CD back in 93 and still have it to this day and metsl.sonic was always an intriguing character and that game.itself. became.my favorite In the classic franchise. Thank you scholar for.all the work.do and you made..my inner 10 yr old self remember how much this game.meant to me on that Christmas
I'm so glad it made you feel that way!
I'm surprised nobody made a fangame of this. Like I would love to play a really messed up dark metal sonic origin game.
Yes please give it to me and make it 3D like Sonic Unleashed.
I’m tryna get into game developing. I’m on it!
@@ghettokage6104 so uh any updates?
My sleep is gone yep I’m gonna have nightmares about sweet little tails and sonic....
Sorry man... Robotnik wins this one.
This Is Something I Believe
I Haven't Seen This Video But The Theory Of Metal Sonic Being Sonic Roboticized Is Something I Believe!
He Has Free Will
He Can Feel Emotions
He Literally Identifies Himself With Sonic
His Speed Is As Fast As Sonic
And That Line In Forces "Why Make A Copy Of Something That Already Isn't Real".....Makes This Theory Seem Even More Real
This feels like it could be an Archie or IDW Sonic story plot thing.
I can go darker. What if sonic was in fact aware but only a little of every atrocity he has done as Metal Sonic but his spirit and the Robotised body was like a prisoner in a heavily guarded cell. He can see everything, all his actions, every drop of blood and every dead body left to rot. Living as a silent prisoner broken down, in the deepest depths of darkness in one’s mind almost forever
Awesome. A prisoner of his own body.
Mom come pick me up, I’m scared.
Seriously, though, GAWD DAWMN that was good!
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Time stones remind me too much of thanos. What if robotnik built his own chaos gauntlet.
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YES.😎😎😎 And, he literally was wearing those kind of gloves in all 3 of the American cartoons!~😄😄😄
I always love to believe this theory. And nice fanfic, SS. Keep it up! 👊
Thank you my dude!!
@@SaiyanScholar Your welcome!
I watched this before work one day and it really resonated with me. Two weeks later and I’m back to listen to it again.
This is the darkest Sonic fan fiction I've ever heard
This would be so sick, this the 1,000 comment btw, but love ur content bro and the whole idea of it just crazy good 👍🏻🔥
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Eggman:It's seems in your anger, u killed her.
Me:Is that a star wars reference?
An unexpected reference, but a welcomed one
My thoughts EXACTLY
Wow,this has to be one of the most darkest Sonic The Hedgehog l have ever seen in my life! I feel so bad for Metal Sonic now. He badly needs a hug and someone to tell that he is being tricked.
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Boy... This is the best Classic Sonic story ever...
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"It would seem in your anger, you killed her"
Revenge of the Sith was easily the best Star Wars.
Lol yes
Defiantly tied with Empire and Return as my favourite Star Wars film
Haven't even seen the video yet, and i know for a fact that it's gonna be a really good one! May i request something? Can you please do a video on the Xenoblade Chronicles franchise if you have time?
I'll look into it bud!!
@@SaiyanScholar Thanks bro!
Props to you for this story, which is my headcanon now, and Robotnik channeling his inner Palpatine. Although considering the Death Egg is one mustache away from a lawsuit with Lucasfilm, that's to be expected. Even moreso considering this scenario would make Metal something akin to Darth Vader (I totally heard the song that played when the operating table with Vader on it rising when Robotnik first laid eyes on Metal.)
Robotnik: It seems in your anger, you killed her.
Sonic: NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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This just made Sonic sound more interesting and dark.
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That... That was just dark and amazing this definitely needs more likes then what you have now keep it up
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I always wanted to see stories like this. Especially in characters like sonic and goku. Imagine goku loses all his friends in a separate timeline
I know! It shows more depth to them
What goku black should’ve been
this hit me hard. especially the question he asked (If metal sonic isnt the real sonic where is he in the Future Timeline.)
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Yikes
Thus got DARK lol
I always thought that if sonic lost to eggman, it wouldn't be from sheer numbers, but from eggman taking a hostage like he did in Adventure and generations.
Low key if we're being honest, eggman CAN'T beat sonic, not on his own.
Crazy thing is everytime they fight, Sonic actually holds BACK on him.
We see this in Cds opening cutscene, when sonic runs up to little planet near the END.
1 moment he's doing a brisk run, then all of a sudden we see a BOOM and sonic dashes up the chain in SECONDS, and that's prolly not even his top speed.
Eggman is smart but idk if he can create anything to counter sonic going all out using only HIS tech.
The only versions of things we have seen able to counter base sonic or over power him would be the egg salamanders from the super boss fight of rush(but this was him and eggman negas team work), technically metal overlord(but that was after metal went rogue, did tons of extensive data gathering, AND had energy from the chaos emeralds and copy data of shadows chaos data), the Time eater(which was basically a demon/god he somehow managed to capture), the phantom ruby(which technically wasn't his as they were basically copies of the one from classic Sonics world)
If I'm being honest, eggman legit stopped being able to contend with sonic after we got a feat from him in Secret rings, where mans literally RUNS fast enough to cross multiple universes to make his way back home.
At that point, none of eggman solo tricks should be able to beat sonic, who I would say has been HUMORING eggman this whole time besides the times eggman basically uses GOD'S to fight 4 him😂
Very nice points!
@@SaiyanScholar
Yeah, it's crazy how In a sense, Sonic holds back on eggman.
Eggman makes him mad sometimes but I think it's his morality that stops sonic from turning up on eggman and ending him.
We see this in the Idw comics where sonic let's his morality get in the way of Shadow killing Mr tinker.
1 well placed spin dash or a chop like Shadow did in his game and the Dr is gonna need a morticuan😂
Well see thats the thing Sonic himself isnt a killer as he lacks that killer instinct Shadow has.
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But the problem with that is that games actually portray shadow badly, both don't kill HUMANS, but they DESTROY gods and monsters lol
Sonic on record has killed
The bio lizard
Solaris
Dark gaia
Iblis(but the thing is technically immortal)
And technically Metal sonic more times than I can count lol
Shadow has some bodies on him too, but it's eggman they would have a problem with considering he's technically a human.
Both are willing to kill, just not someone human.
@@chriss.249 I mean more long the line of Sonic murdering innocents though.
Off topic; but I’d love to see your views on the strength of sonic and shadow. I remember when shadow was introduced he was considered to be far superior to sonic. But now sonic is basically just a god in the series with a villain to compete with each time. Shadow is just absolutely side lined as if he is as useful as tails in combat. It’s a mighty shame. Seeing your thoughts on this would certainly be interesting. Either way this was an unexpected and certainly amazing video! Your writing skills are honesty fantastic! Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
great, now we just need silver to go back into the past to save the future and we can officially call this a dragon ball recreation!
Watching this video gives me some "alone infection" vibes because it feels like one of those songs where you are the broken-corrupted hero that has been through everything
I'm a huge fan of the bright characters with a dark story Superman in Injustice or Goku and Vegeta accepting their fate in the Future Trunks Saga in Dragon Ball thank you
Glad you enjoyed!
Dang imagine being a hero and just watching every lthign you figuth for just go and seeing your friends and family suffer because you lost hope
I have always wondered ho the heck is metal sonic 🤔
Hehe
@@SaiyanScholar great job 😉
Oh my gosh, I knew this would be dark but I was not expecting Tails and Amy to die like that.
Lol hehe
Really liked the video!!
Although another point of view i´ve come up with tells the story of that, at 16:31, Sonic would have said no its not true and would remember the times he used to defeat robotnik before having any friends (when Sonic 1 happened) and thought that he could still have a chance alone against everyone. This would be a feeling of pride and superiorness in Sonic, and he´d overcome his fear like a true hero. Such anger in him would start making him turn yellow. It was the power of the chaos emeralds!! but he was too far away to gain their power. But the mix of outrage in him and the no possibilities of him turning into super sonic ended up turning him into fleetway Sonic. In the end, although Tails and Amy and most of the little animals were already robotisized, Sonic would save a number of 20 remaining living ones from his planet after having made robotnik and his robots have to retreat at this new speed Sonic had, as Fleetway Sonic is faster and more powerful than regular super sonic.
Finally, after robotnik´s retreat, robotnik and his robots would stay and live in Little Planet. The chain would then have been broken and fleetway Sonic would end up killing the remaining 20 sooner or later as he would no longer be able to control himself. After the last one died, Sonic will feel lonely and loose his transformation in a number of days. He´d start to starve while there´s no life left but himself on his planet and then he´d just give up upon robotnik and be robotisized by the doctor. Therefore, the end would be the same as the one of the video.
Thanks man! Great points! 🖤
The epic combo of Live and Learn starting up and metal opening his eyes to say "There is only one Sonic"
Saiyan Scholar: Tails was still young and green,
Me: No, he's actually yellow.
P.S: This has way better writing than all the games written by Ken Pontac and Warren Graff
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This makes the 2000's pre-genesis wave archie comics look like Super Mario and the games like Kirby or Megaman ZERO, lore-wise.
Maybe when the race was near that bit of soul he had left lost on purpose because he didn't want the present sonic to be roboticized and put through torture
Wow, great job telling a really dark story!
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@@SaiyanScholar Can you please do a video about Sonic Underground?
This was brilliant and is very well made, it actually made sense and could be canon fa sho, it would also explain why sonic mind scan was needed and why Metal Sonic didn’t let Sonic save him when he says there can only be one Sonic
Nice to see your making more sonic videos
Glad you like them!
This really makes sense if ya think about the fact that the Metal Sonic rival fight in generations is set in Stardust Speedway Bad Future.