I'm OBSESSED with EPIC The Musical - The Ithaca Saga!
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Ody: I know you've been waiting for LOVE
Penelope: Do this impossible task I know my husband would never agree to do
Ody: How could you ask me to do that?
Penelope: Because you're my husband, and I've been waiting 20 freaking years for YOU!
PS As a Spartan princess all that death and murder and wit just to get back and protect his family probably just cemented to her that he was the best husband.
Penelope W
Penelope is goated
Odysseus finishing slaughtering all 108 suitors
Penelope: “Omg I think he’s flirting with me 🤭”
No no, Penelope isn't a Spartan. I can't remember which country state she was the Princess of, but it was Helen who was the Spartan Princess
@@bradleybarnett1469 There can be more than just 1 Spartan princess at a time, you know... Penelope was the daughter of Icarius from Sparta.
Imagine if one of the suitors called in sick that day and they came back the next morning like “What the fuck happened?!”
they called in sick of the other suitors shit.
They wouldn't. Apparently after clearing the castle of the suitors, he killed evry servant that sided with the suitors just make extra sure
And if the news missed them or they were stupid, they died. Arrow through the throat. No bargain, nothing, just death coz Odysseus is done f-ing around
He has, in fact, had enough
Ody didnt even consider lying to his wife. I love how he straight up told her what he did. And how she accepted him
Even more so, he could have just ran to embrace her and assumed her would still love him, but instead he he tells her right away that he has changed and asks if she will fall in love with him again ❤!
I need a crazy man like that ❤😂
that being said (and I mean this playfully to be clear xD not an actual knock against me) he sure didn't mention dropping a baby from a wall u.u
@lusus5610 I imagine there's a good chance she knows about that one anyways. The events of the sack of Troy would be recorded and spread. Plus she's a spartan. She knows about the dropping of babies.
@@lusus5610 I recall in the original he told her absolutely everything, even including the 'events' on calypso's island
“You don’t get to sing open arms” 😂😂
This guy took it personally 😂😂😂
We all did
that is for Polites and Polites only
i did too
@@melaniecano4501Exactly!! That’s Polites line!
Only polites gets to sing that it's reserved for him HIMMM ain't noone else gets itttt
So fun fact about Hold Them Down: Antinous is not wrong in saying they’re being played. Penelope purposely chose a challenge only Odysseus could complete. Not only is his bow ridiculously strong, it’s theorized to be a recurve bow, a rarity for the time, meaning only he would know the technique to string it
Edit: I can’t believe I have to make this perfectly clear: I AM NOT JUSTIFYING THESE SCUMS ACTIONS.
You are NOT saying Antinous is ok for threatening Telemachus and Penelope
@@LintyLahLahThey aren’t, they’re just acknowledging that the task they were given was actually impossible. Nothing could justify Antinous threatening Telemachus and Penelope.
@@zenitsusdignity5256
Technically not an impossible task tho, just a skill issue on their part 👀😂
@@LintyLahLah"How can I take as much offense as possible to something that's clearly not offensive?" -You
Don't be a weirdo out there.
Are you capable of reading? Or maybe thinking before you speak? @@LintyLahLah
You totally explained why Penelope tested Odysseus like that, tho. Odysseus claimed he was different, he wasn't the husband she knew, so she asked him to do something her husband would never do. If he had been willing to destroy the bed that was a materialization of his love for her, then he really had changed and was no longer the man she knew. But she had no doubt that he would refuse, proving to his face that he is still and would forever be her husband. She didn't dismiss his fears of rejection or of who he had become, she made him see that he is still the man she loves.
I freaking love this finale. Like what a way to end it all. I just 🤯
I find it all so cute. Like, only my husband would get that mad over his woodworking hobby
@@omalleycaboose5937 Makes me think of that one line in Diehard, "Only John can drive somebody that crazy"
I also see it as her being like “oh you’re asking if I’ll fall for you again? Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer I guess OF COURSE YOU FOOL”
In the original story Penelope tests whether or not Ody is actually Ody by going "Oh, you can sleep in room x, it's where I've put the wedding bed." And Ody is just "You don't lov-? Wait, what? Darling, our wedding bed is literally rooted in the ground and fucking massive. I carved it out of the olive tree we met under! The palaca was built *around* the bed. How in the fuck did you move that thing?" and Penelope knew only Ody could have known because no man had any fucking access to her marriage bed for decades, so Ody would be the only one who knew how impossible the notion of her having moved the bed was.
"I am not the man you fell in love with."
"if thats true, destroy this symbol of our love."
"what! no, i could NEVER do that!"
"then youre still the man I fell in love with."
At 4:34 Penelope's challenge was multi-layered. She told them they had to shoot through 12 axes after stringing his bow (which could only be done by Odysseus), but in the original and many fan animatics, she was sitting on the throne behind the 12 axes, which just shows how much faith she had in her husband and the lengths she went to in order to preserve her love for him. Why she's said "I'd rather die than grow old without the best of you (Odysseus)" and also said she never thought she'd go to these lengths for their love. She'd rather literally be shot and killed by the victor than ever live without Odysseus and rule by someone else's side
ALSO! All of the scenes in Odysseus represent him literally becoming the monsters he battles throughout the musical and using their tactics, which was one of my absolute favorite details ever
The choir chanting is chanting all of their names (Polyphemus, etc) until ultimately chanting Odysseus as the final monster in his journey
I think the detail that Odysseus was literally the strongest man and best archer in his entire kingdom is really great, because it shows just how strong he and the 600 men he brought with him were. All of his soldiers were extremely powerful warriors, but you don't really get that until the end when you realize just how much weaker the suitors are when compared to their King. And this is pre-Illiad Odysseus, too. No one that stayed home is even close to him.
But throughout the journey, THEY (Odysseus's crew) were the helpless ones, dealing with things far beyond what most mortal men could. It's just interesting in context.
Wait this was also in Homer's Odyssey?
(I mean the axe heads behind the throne)
@tasos_gr7297 it was in some iterations, but I'm not sure it's in the original poem by Homer
25:15 “Left a trail of red on every island.” - Ruthlessness motif
“Traded friends like objects I could use.” - Thunder Bringer motif
“Hurt more lives than I could count on my hands.” - Not Sorry For Loving You motif or Scylla
Last could Also be Scylla's motif
@@navimcfarland9113 I suppose you’re right! I haven’t heard it like that - interesting..
@@buggo_bug also the suitor who threatened Telemachus sang what I originally thought was Hermes melody, but it was clasped to the verses from Storm. This could point to a leader in a life or death situation
I see your wife with a man who is haunting. A man with a trail of bodies
I read somewhere the last Was Luck runs out melody, but i still dont know
There’s a reason it reminds you of ‘Polyphemus’. Everything in ‘Odysseus’ is a throwback to the adversaries Odysseus has faced- his name being chanted in the same way Polyphemus’ was, the suitors locked in the palace like his men with Circe, Scylla for the torches, and the ruthlessness from Poseidon. Not to mention the direct Poseidon callbacks with the “No” after Odysseus asked him for mercy in Get in the Water.
The warrior of the mind theme started playing for Telemachus’ introduction, he and Athena became friends, Telemachus became a warrior of Athena’s after that.
And, Penelope, that icon. Odysseus walked in, terrified for her to see what he had become. When the monster rose with his rage at her asking him to break the bed, she didn’t push him away. Instead, she met him on that level. Reassurance that she accepts him before she even says it. Our clever, strong, and loving badass queen Penelope 🩵
31:30 The one who voices Telemachus is actually Mico! The guy wearing glasses next to Jorge! The guy behind Mico voices Eurylochus!
Not only was Penelope basically telling Odysseus that he’s still the same man, but also testing him to see if it’s really him since I’ve heard that many suitors pretended to be Odysseus!
Also if you listen closely, when Odysseus is retelling all the things that happened on his journey, you can hear these song’s instrumentals: Ruthlessness, Thunder Bringer, And No Longer You
Also, we have PLENTY stories of gods taking a partners form to lay with mortals, I'm looking at you zeus..
27:34 Penelope’s proving a point to Odysseus here- he’s still him. She’s always been canonically the smarter of the two 😂
Yep, he needed a boost from the goddess of wisdom to even cuff her in the first place 😂
She’s also the only person in the musical to win an argument against Odysseus without using “fuck you im way more powerful than you.”
@@flamenami this is so true, the only reason *she* isnt the warrior of the mind is probably because being a Spartan shed rather worship Ares
Telemachus is the guy next to Jorge with black hair and glasses.
yes I was actually referring to Eurylochus if thats what you were referring to when I asked about the 2 black guys haha
@@QofyReactsLeft is Ares. Right is Eurylochus
Eury is the true "Right" hand😂@@Kalkheras
@@Kalkherasand Ares (Earl Gresham Jr) was _losing it._
Valid 😭
@@QofyReactsback, left to right- Ares, Hermes, Tiresias (the prophet), Scylla, Eurylochus
Front, left to right- Penelope, Odysseus, Telemachus, Zeus, and _i think_ the actress for Aphrodite is beside him at some point
Your reaction to “Odysseus” was so good, the absolute hype and how you instantly noticed the Scylla parallel and Athena’s quick thought motif
Hold Them Down is such an amazing villain song. Antinous’ intentions are so clear, and it’s terrifying. Plus, his VOCALS!! Love this whole saga so much, and love EPIC even more! Adored this reaction.
27:21 she told him to do that because she knew he WOULD NEVER, she know her husband, she knew that even after 20 years he would not cut that bed, he would fight her on it, he would get offended, she never doubt he was odyseussm but he was doubting. This was like a "how you dare to think i ever stop loving you? no matter what you did, you are still mine". Also, just afyer that the instrumental is "Just a Man", he was never only a monster, he is just a man, HER MAN
I don't think it's that. She didn't JUST ask him to remove it. She asked him to carry it over and lift in on his shoulders. Only the real odysseus would know you can't pick up the bed because it's roots are grown into the ground. He couldn't just 'scoot it and pick it up' like he could a normal bed.
@IAmQwerty1 Its probably both
@@IAmQwerty1 its both
Very good that you clarified that you might smile at inappropriate moments cuz you're watching the creators react. A lot of people can easily misread expressions and tone.
The olive tree bed was a symbol of their everlasting love, so if Ody would've to cut down the roots and move the bed, it shows that he would literally sacrifice everything to get whatever he wants but since he didn't do that, it proves that no matter what had happened, Ody still values their love above everything else and that their loves is the end goal, not just a means to an end
Also more effeccient for getting through the test than how she claimed to have moved their marriage bed to a different room and he could sleep in there. Ody needed a reboot moment (shock/acceptance that maybee she needed time to get to know him again) and then questioned her on how she managed to move the massive thing that they'd literally had to construct their palace around.
Fun fact; Penelope is a Spartan. She probably was less bothered than you think.
Him slaughtering her enemies is probably her love language
@@itsmxtwist She probably saw the bodies near the armory and tried to make Telemachus a sibling then and there 😂
An artist called Brittpowwpixel had Penelope being dreamscaped by Zeus to the ship during thunder bringer. Which means (according to their interpretation) she was there when Odysseus chose her over his men. So she knows, understands and accepts that she was at fault for a lot of the blood on his hands. So "Suthu my sweetheart, I don't care. You still love me, I still love you. F what you did."
Every reactor seems to always say "You don't want to know" when Penelope asks what Ody did. But you're missing the point. She's not asking so she can give him pity and tell him its okay, that he did what he had to. She's no asking so she can dismiss his concerns. She's asking so she can share his burden. Penelope is his perfect match in every way. You even see it when she asks him to remove the wedding bed and Ody gets angry. He lets the monster slip and Penelope MEETS HIM THERE. She responds by matching his anger and shutting him down. Letting him now that she loves the monster just as much as the man, and that isn't going to change.
Some stuff about hold them down cause I know a lot about that song At 10:52 or so when Antinous says soul for the last time you can hear the bow being shot by Odysseus and going into his neck. Another fact about hold them down is you can hear Jorge/Ody’s voice in true chorus, light to start, just at the edges watching but near the end it’s loud and vibrant, up to when he kills him. I interpret that as Ody being the beggar and lurking around the edges, until he finally has enough of them and just snaps, killing Antinous. In the myth the wine Antinous was drinking spills out of his mouth along with his blood. Love that song so much
Your reaction at the Odysseus song is EXACTLY what I was feeling
As part of the epic community let's all just admit "open arms" has become a trigger word for all of us🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE REACTION VIDEO IVE SEEN i love how you actually notice the callbacks and motifs from previous songs
Good ear- Ody's battle (execution) with the suitors reminds you of Polyphemus because it's got the same background vocals. Ody is, undeniably, the monster now!
I literally am living for your reaction at 11:20 👏🏻 WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!
YOOO!!
11:56 The standing is so real, thats how I felt when I at furst saw the song Odysseus too 😭😭
I like the idea that she asked him to move the bed, not only to prove if it was really odysseus, but also to show him that no matter what happened, he still is odysseus, he still is her husband
The "Waiting, waiting oh" is also heard in the Underworld saga.
Odysseus' mother sings it.
Penelope was simply younger than her and had the time to wait that Anticlea tragically didn't.
Didn't Anticlea off herself?
Athena took one of Zeus's mountain shattering thunderbolts at point blank range, so walking away with a wound over her eye is beyond miraculous.
The fact that the final song reprises Just A Man absolutely breaks me. Where we began is where we end. God. Jorge you MADMAN
I already made this comment under another video but I will paste it here because you said the song odysseus reminds you of polyphemus:
I realized that the song has a lot of parallels to the song Polyphemus.
From the music to the chorus going "O-dy-sse-us" just like how it went "Po-ly-phe-mus" in his song
It is also Odysseus coming back home to find a group of people in his home that's been plotting to hurt his family, just like how Polyphemus came to his cave to find Odysseus's men plotting to kill his sheep and having already killed one.
He gets offered peace and is asked to spare the men, yet he refuses, just like Polyphemus.
I suppose we can say that this time Odysseus himself is in the place of Cyclops. idek if thats intentional I just realized that while listening to Odysseus for the first time but knowing Jorge it probably is tbh
And obv the Scylla reference, "Keep your head down, he's aiming for the torches!" makes one remember of the way Scylla spoke to him, "We are the same, you and I"
Anyways yes I love the song and I2m yapping I'm sorrysgdhhjsj
Also did you realize how many times odysseus's name is being chanted in the song compared to the others
I mean we know Zeus doesn't need introduction cause he's the strongest but take one of the gods like Poseidon for example, we hear his name 7 times total in the Ruthlessness song's beginning
Yet in the song Odysseus it's a constant chant and I think that's because he keeps being seen as a threat by different people
Like, okay, idk how to explain this but
Yk in the song Polyphemus, we only hear the "Po-ly-phe-mus" when the battle is beginning, the threat is registered, and thats that
Same with Poseidon, his name is chanted only in the beginning of the song where he appears as a threat and is a clear threat throughout, I'd say same with Scylla too since once she shows herself she doesn't leave until she's done with eating six of them and leaves them alone
Yet it's not like that with Odysseus, he "uses the darkness to hide his approaches", disappearing into the shadows before he appears before another one of the suitors and ends their life, re-asserting the threat over and over after momentary disappearances, and remember the rule of this Musical, if the singer isn't a God, they cannot create divine choruses, so someone must be saying his name
Just imagine being buried in darkness awaiting your inevitable fate while people scream "He's here! He's here!" And the noise gets closer and closer and you hear men falling dead yet you cannot even see him approaching, I still love the way they don't see him coming until they're already impaled and are about to fall dead
Yes I love this musical can you tell sjdjdjjsj
Haha you definitely love it!!
@@QofyReacts yeah lol as someone that studies literature/mythology I love this musical! I'm so glad you enjoyed it too
I appreciate your yapping thoughtful stranger
@@qryptid any time 😎😎
Ooh ooh. And the danger motif plays all the way through Odysseus.
I saw a comment yesterday that someone said “Waiting” is the danger motif. It kinda makes sense actually, that waiting but sped up is Ody trying to get back to his family, and every danger is potentially stopping him getting home.
Ohhhh so many layers in this musical. It’s genius… 🥰😊
His whole reaction to Odysseus is literally me. Haha, love it! Best reaction I’ve seen!!
6:14 Don't stop your speculation, you're spot on, nothing to apologize for.
I love the detail that every single song that introduces a monster is just their name(Polyphemus, Scylla, and Charybdis)really driving home that Ody is now the monster
And more so that he now brings his own chorus, because he’s “more than human.”
The thing I appreciate about your reaction in particular is that you pick up on all the little musical and lyrical motifs that do stuff like signal that a character is about to appear and when one of the major themes of the story is being developed. I haven't seen a lot of people clock that Odysseus is calling out to Athena before she's shown on screen, and you did. I also haven't seen many reactors talk about how the Ithaca Saga flips the WAITING motif. Good work.
27:12 that test is in important because it's not like they're going to share how they met to the public. To confirm his identity first, to see how indignant he was to the suggestion to replace the immovable bed he made and only he knows how the bed was made and carved into a living tree. It's not like they'll share the details of tbeir marriage publicly so there's that kind of discretion between couples.
Also, she hasn't seen him in 20 years so there's likelyhood of people claiming to be Odysseus or gods or other entities disguising themselves as Odysseus. So that piece of information between them is important.
Basically, you said to kill the very tree where they met becaus eyou thought the test was unnecessecary... when said tree meant a lot to Odysseus, because anyone else who would willingly do her test and get rid of the bed meant that the tree means nothing as it's a crucial part of their history.
Telemachus is the one next to Jorge on our right (the one he was hugging). The one in the far right in the back is Eurylacus and the one on the far left is ares x
Man, bro is shooketh at the visual of Telemachus being cut to piece like: o___O....
I mean me too, but seeing someone else react that way is so funny 😂 Me too, sir!
Fun fact!! Recently, Jay pounted our that after Athena says her last words to Ody, the piano(her instrument) can be heard singing the melody to "warrior of rhe mind/this is my goodbye" and you can also hear the guitar(Ody's instrument) play the melody of "Penelope" at the same time :)
Random fact about Ody's bow: Unstringed likey looked like a lowercase u since it was described as 'palintonos' which means 'bent backwards' (Shoulda looked like a lowercase n). Due to the tension in the limbs, you likely could not hold a draw on it, not because its physically impossible, but bc it could break. So not only did Ody prove his strength, But his bow demanded a quick draw with an aim that only Artemis would probably teach bc bro did NOT miss once
The cast all there together in Ithaca - Greece is so amazing
Not all sadly. Posiden could not be there due to -trauma- injuries and calypso is still cursed.
6:25 The song you're thinking of is probably Charybdis, since that was the one which had the 'Penelope' reprisal :)
I love seeing peoples first time reactions to this saga!❤
During hold them down if you listen closely you can here Odysseus in the backing vocals he’s quiet for most , i don’t think he’s in the Telemachus or Penelope parts which duh, but during the final hold them down he starts to get louder as he gets the bow string it and (at least my head cannon) shot through the axes and kills Antinous
Edit 2 things
One the red eyes symbolize how he’s change becoming a more ruthless person to get home and he will always have those eyes
Two: Penelope test with the bed is more on the reaction then the answer which while still important the fact that he was so betrayed at the ask was what truly confirmed it because keep in mind Zeus has taken the form off woman’s husband to sleep with them so its one last test just to make sure
In that last frame of everyone, On the left side is Ares, sitting next to Hermes, then the prophet, then Scilla, then Eurilicus.
Then in front going right to left is Zeus, Telemicus, Odysseus, Circe, Penelope. I know I spelled the names wrong but I hope this helps.
I don't know if it's just me, but the chanting in the back, it sounds like "old king, save us. old king spare us!" and I can't unhear it.
Your reactions to EPIC have been absolurely fantastic. Thoroughly enjoyed tagging along on your odyssey through EPIC!
27:35 that's the sick part Odysseus wouldn't do it (move the bed), as it signifies their love he won't move it if he is to move it that means he doesn't love her anymore and would mean he's not the real Odysseus. It was a test to see if Ody was really there.
You pointed out the last saga had the waiting motif, and the thing is, the 'Waiting' motif has always been in the musical. Odysseus first says "Waiting" and the motif plays in the Horse and the Infant, when he talks about Telemachus and Penelope waiting for him back home as his reason to fight. Yet another reoccurring motif that's been reused by him, his mother in the undeworld, the dead souls at the end of Get in the Water, and finally, Penelope.
One thing I love about this saga is that Ody eyes stay red in all the animatics. To show how the monster was the one version of him strong enough to make it back home. And that that is the version of him that will stay. Sometimes in life we must be ruthless to protect those we love.
gonna eat this video I've been craving reaction videos sb
Hahah I couldnt wait
Same, I need emotional support via react videos 😂
10:13 This face will give men nightmares 😂
The way I see it, the test was that he literally CANNOT lift the bed, because it's rooted in a tree. So if he had tried lifting it (which is impossible) she'd have known it wasn't her man. 🥺
I am Soooooo glad Jorge brought in a character like Eurymachus....I saw so many people wondering how Ody could be so cruel...or go against everything Polties stood for by brutally killing that man. That is the point, Ody never let go of Politie's message. Just that message had been corrupted.
Like Antonius, Eurymachous was juat as dangerous and in those times, just like in todays day. A lot of people manipulate people by trying to be "That nice guy..." When in reality, they have their own dark reasonings. Eurymachous is a snake, hiding as a sheep. He probably used Quid Pro Qous, and favors to hurt people...Ody say that this man had 20 years to leave (in the story, The GODs even sent multiple signs, for 20 years to get the suitors to leave and they stayed) Eurymachous deserved every bit of that death, as much if not more as Antonius, Antonius was the head for sure, but Eurymachous was probably the brains of the operations....and to see his best friends "Open Arms" message corrupted ans used to sway him, Ody had to show him Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves.
31:38
Telemachous was played by the black haired guy with the glasses, the guy on the righ of Jorge.
The 2 black guys, the one on the left was Ares, and the one the right was Eury.
I love that you understood all the nods to older songs, like Odysseus being chanted like Polyphemus, Him aiming at the torches like Scylla, etc.
Ive been trying to find somebody with the same reactions as me, safe to say this man has matched my energy 🔥🔥
I see everyone say that as a Spartan Penelope probably didn’t even mind, but I just thought about the fact that as Helen’s cousin, she’s probably pretty used to aggressive suitors being the way aggressive suitors are.
The wedding bed test is because Odysseus knew how important that bed was and she knew that he would never destroy it because of what it stood for.
i loved this reaction vid, youre clearly as excited as all of us 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
congratulations on being the first reactor ive seen to pick up on the torches thing being a scylla reference!
the one on the left with braids is the voice of aries, the one of the right is Eurylochus and the kid with the glasses and mid section is Telemachus :D
Ody saying "That's a girl i have to see" is so heartbreaking cuz he still says that he's the girl that he first meet, even they are in like their 40's+ so beautiful
31:30 telemachus was sang by the guy with glasses next to jorge. on the other side of telemachus is zeus. on the other side of jorge is circe (played by jorges girlfriend) then penelope. from (our) left to right in the back row goes ares, hermes, tiresias, scylla, eurylochus.
31:37 mico the guy on the right from Jorge is the voice of Telemachus
Your reaction to 'Odysseus' is EVERYTHING!!! 🥰🥰🥰
guy so excited about Athena and Telemechus his mic gave out
27:12 my theory is she knew her sappy romantic husband wouldn't be able to do it
Sappy romantic monster.
scyllaPenelope: shows up in the last saga and steals the show.
Everyone else: yeah, I get Odysseus now, I'd kill for her too.
just binged all of your reactions and had a blast. thank you!!!
Yay! Thank you!
I love that Penelope outsmarts Odysseus with the bed because she know only he would know it’s a symbol of their love so he would never try to pick up the bed and then when Odysseus gets angry she meets his anger head on proving that she is his perfect match
We`re here, the final saga :) I`ve watched your entire journey from the first saga to this one and, as i saw you rapidly getting invested in this awesomeness, i wanted more and more to see your reaction to this. I`m so happy that you decided to watch the release party video.
And, to answer your question, here is the cast from left to right, back to front row (those who appear in the final shot):
Aries, Hermes, Tiresias, Scylla, Eurylochus (in the back)
First two from the left are two of the suitors (Eurymachus and Melanthius from this saga), then Penelope, Circe, Odysseus, Telemachus and Zeus
Far left corner, back row are Jorge`s parents who played Hephaestus and Anticlea (Odysseus`s mother), and far right corner front row is JP Warner who helped Jorge with mixing and mastering
Gigi being the one who started the animatics and ended them is such a nice touch if you noticed❤❤
Some context for the bed being moved test, Odysseus carved that bed into the tree where they first met, planting more saplings from that first tree to make it's posts, he never uprooted those trees, to show their love was unmovable, and then built his castle around that tree, not the other way round.
He made their home where they first met.
To uproot that tree and move that bed would be a betrayal of the love that went into making it and would show he was truly not the man who loved her anymore, his angry refusal at the suggestion, was her proof to him that he was still her husband the man she loved, she never believed he would ever have agreed, that isn't who she married, nothing would shake their love, nothing would uproot it.
WOOOOO🎉🎉🎉 11:50 - 15:10 ME AND YOU BOTH BROO!!
EPIC!!
13:41 "He's still a threat until he's dead, finish it." -Athena
12:36 OMG I WAS THINKING THIS TOO BUT ODYSSEUS IS NOW POLYPHEMUS, WHO WAS A MOMSTER AND OMG ITS SO GENIUS
i actually watched that movie not to long ago and it was 1985 one of the best movies I seen really enjoyed it
the black guy on the right of jorge was eurylochus and the got black guy on the left was Aries the person sitting next to Jorge with the glasses was telemachus
Penelope's 'test' was completely reasonable imo. Not only was it fairly well known that often gods would disguise themselves as well known humans in order to sleep with them (looking at Zeus especially) but he was literally telling her 'i'm not him, i'm not your husband Odysseus' so she's like 'alright, if you're rly that different, do this thing i know Odysseus would never do' and he doesn't do it so she can concretely prove to him that no, that's deffo still Odysseus, her husband.
I love the part about the bed so much. It is kind of odd, but essentially her asking that comes off like she wants to get rid of what he grew to be their love and a testament to it.
So when he says "I have to cut it too!" That's he truly knowing he's her husband and his love is still there. Who he was when they first met is there.
The excitement!! The emotions 😭 your reaction was exactly how I felt listening to this final saga
Telemusuas was played by Miguel Veloso aka MICO who is Filipino-Canadian is sitting next to Jorge he's the one with the glasses
Crazy thing is that Odyssey did all of the things he said he do for Telemachus; he did
The format of the song Odysseus strongly reflects the song Polyphemus. Odysseus shows the ruthlessness he learned from Poseidon. He shows protectiveness and defensiveness for his loved ones like Circe. He attacks by aiming for the torches like Scylla. He displays all the characteristics of the monsters he's had to face, becoming one himself. But in the end, he was just a man who would do anything to see his son and wife.
Also, killing a man with a bow, in ancient times, was considered disrespectful outside of military battle, because bows were only use for haunting animals
27:20 If he wasn't odysseus he would just tried to move the bed not knowing it literally is rooted to ground and fail
if he was odysseus and accepted request he would first cut its legs but message would be cut in half too
she is not saying "yes you proved you are odysseus" she is also saying "no matter how much you change you are the husband I know"
Mind you, this is Telemachus' first impression of his father 😂
I love how throughout the Odysseus song their y chant his name all the song
27:30 This is nothing complicated, he came to her after so many years and tells her that he is not the love she was waiting for, and then she asks him what only her husband whom she loves would know, and when he says what he needs to say, he only confirms that he is still the person she remembers and whom she loves, and she responds in the sense of "Enough of philosophizing, I have been waiting for you for 20 years, and you are telling me something like this, like I am not the man you remember? You are my husband and stop talking nonsense!"
a lot of people don’t point this out, but the viola back in hold them down during Penelope’s part is Penelope, screaming no. it sounds like music to his EARS.
Only so much a man can take. But if you push a monster to the edge, well, you'll be the first one to break.
Fun fact at the start of Odysseus the suitors have 6 torches…. I guess he did learn a thing or two from Scylla
I heard someone say that the violin in the background of *that* part of Hold Them Down is Penelope screaming in pain. Yikes 🥲
Love the universal of Antinuos: You have great vocals sir, now get tf out
I'm so happy to see your reaction finally .
You're not ready
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Oh my god! I didn't know there was animation for this! I just learned about this!
The second I clicked on this the vibe was there