Hello from AK. Great video Jay. I went back and forth for awhile between HAAS snd SYIL. Finally settled on a HAAS…but I’m with you I believe the SYIL is a great machine for the money and would serve someone well. My final decision was based on support plus the few guys I know up here are HAAS guys. Another reason was a pretty heavily optioned TM-0p was not much more out the door than the SYIL. I will state I have ZERO cnc experience, I’m learning as I go. Thanks again.
You can set the manual white balance on you 80D so that it is fixed. You currently use the auto balance mode, which would not change anything when you buy a new camera. It would be the same when you use it in auto mode.
Thanks for the video. Ive been looking at both the X7 and tormach. Leaning heavily toward the X7 at this point. Seems like its in a class above Tormach for a relatively similar price point.
The gap between the face of the spindle and the flange in the tool holder is 3mm. The nominal distance from the face of the spindle to the gage line is 1.5mm The tolerance on this dimension is not very tight since the main goal is ensuring there is a sufficient gap between the spindle face and the flange of the tool.
Interesting addressing accuracy and precision. Repeatability is often in the specifications most CNC machines suggest plus or minus 0.0002 inch with a positional accuracy of plus or minus .0.0002 combined taken at extremes radial error would be taking the full error (Square root of (.0004^2 + .0004^)) that's the best you could hope for. My experience I have found most CNC machine have sweet spots where everything aligns least amount of variation exist. I would favor hard mill work to a side and position on the machine not the sweet spot to savor and save the sweet spot for when the work called for it. A consideration. Good points here nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Jay My X7 is on a container ship somewhere - left 5 days ago for Australia. You mentioned that there has been some Syntec controller firmware upgrades. How quickly does Syil China make these upgrades available for existing X7s owners with the Syntec 22MA controller?
Hi there I'm looking at purchasing my 2nd machining centre I was thinking of haas mini mill 2 but in Australia there very expensive for size of the machine so I'm very interested in the syil x7 I need rigid tapping which controller on this machine has this option? Also what post processor does it use ? Is it just fanuc post ? Cheers Mark
So, just for full disclosure, you received this machine for free with the sole purpose of being an influencer. Are you still running your Super Mini mill or did you move forward with acquiring a 5-axis mill?
I've had good luck with my X7 only a few issues. I'd say that 1100mx is a bit more user friendly for one-offs and prototyping but no question the X7 is very fast , accurate and rigid. they are both similar in that you will most likely service the machine your self if someting goes wrong. Wesley , George , Jeff and Doug are amazing and always go out of their way to take care of their customers.
X7 has always been my way to go CNC for a small scale business. Everyone that knowns a bit about CNC cannot dislike this machine. In its price range there is no competition with other new machines out there. IF you try to build the same machine DIY you will end spending the same amount of money than buying it. The only one that comes with better price (but not epoxy granite structure) are the VMC 420, 422 and 425 from another Chinese brand. They are around 11-14K all included. Really nice too
@@____________________ok(post keeps getting deleted which is sad) Not sure if it's UA-cam policy but do not think so unfortunately 😰. Anyhow those machines are sold on Aliexpress under VMC 420, 422 or 425. Easy to find them and with the same name you can find a guy on UA-cam that has got one recently. Otherwise look at allcncrouter They are no joke too. Hiwin rails, ATC, AC servos on all axis and spindle, multiple controllers available like Syil ecc...
@@7alfatech860 Do not know why my comments keep getting deleted, but anyhow I edited my previous comment. The actual name is VMC420, 422 and 425. That's why you could not find it.
@@____________________ok Yes, I have corrected my first post now. Anyhow same story here. I have been converting a BF20L for the past years and got pretty close to that total cost. I am thinking of selling it and import one of the VMC422 or 425 model. The price value is unbeatable and components used are good. I use the same Ac servo for the spindle and know well Hiwin rails and the AC servos they use for axis. I can tell it's a really good deal. Plus shipping is like 900$
Ill trade anyone my brand new 1100mx fully loaded (36k$) probing, tool setter, ATC, operators console, micro arc 4th axis, and every tool holder they offer for a SYIL X7
Link to Syil X7 accuracy video - ua-cam.com/video/fQDWVgrF_8E/v-deo.html
What about drilling, tapping and a robotic arm on this machine?
Thanks for taking the time to do this review on the Syil CNC, & answering questions!
Great video Jay, lots of good content. I have the same X7 but with the Siemens 808DA controller, and 4th axis. So far, very impressed with this mill.
Hello from AK. Great video Jay. I went back and forth for awhile between HAAS snd SYIL. Finally settled on a HAAS…but I’m with you I believe the SYIL is a great machine for the money and would serve someone well. My final decision was based on support plus the few guys I know up here are HAAS guys. Another reason was a pretty heavily optioned TM-0p was not much more out the door than the SYIL. I will state I have ZERO cnc experience, I’m learning as I go. Thanks again.
You can set the manual white balance on you 80D so that it is fixed. You currently use the auto balance mode, which would not change anything when you buy a new camera. It would be the same when you use it in auto mode.
great video. I had a lot of questions answered. I really appreciate these videos you put out.
Can’t wait to get the upgraded control software. Great video Jay!
Jay, thanks so much for looking at the Syntec controller. It would be great if you could do an entire episode on it.
Thanks, Jason.
Thanks for the video. Ive been looking at both the X7 and tormach. Leaning heavily toward the X7 at this point. Seems like its in a class above Tormach for a relatively similar price point.
The gap between the face of the spindle and the flange in the tool holder is 3mm. The nominal distance from the face of the spindle to the
gage line is 1.5mm The tolerance on this dimension is not very tight since the main goal is ensuring there is a sufficient gap between the
spindle face and the flange of the tool.
Interesting addressing accuracy and precision. Repeatability is often in the specifications most CNC machines suggest plus or minus 0.0002 inch with a positional accuracy of plus or minus .0.0002 combined taken at extremes radial error would be taking the full error (Square root of (.0004^2 + .0004^)) that's the best you could hope for. My experience I have found most CNC machine have sweet spots where everything aligns least amount of variation exist. I would favor hard mill work to a side and position on the machine not the sweet spot to savor and save the sweet spot for when the work called for it. A consideration. Good points here nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Jay My X7 is on a container ship somewhere - left 5 days ago for Australia. You mentioned that there has been some Syntec controller firmware upgrades. How quickly does Syil China make these upgrades available for existing X7s owners with the Syntec 22MA controller?
thnak you Jason, I'm waiting my X7 with 22MA. How I can get the the updated software when it release? maybe you can share a Contact Person for us.
are you gonna upgrade to a 5-axis cnc? okuma vs matsuura video?
Haas mini mill yr 2000 stupid accurate. It only has a 6000 rpm spindle. I have a tormach 770 and thats a toy. Very happy with this machine.
How easy is it to up grade like if I wanted to add a 4th axis I know tormach is really esay
Hi Jason.
Does that mill have thru spindle coolant ?
Another good video.
Take care Bud
mine does not but it will be available in the future
ＣＴＳ available already please check our Instagram posted..
Hi there I'm looking at purchasing my 2nd machining centre I was thinking of haas mini mill 2 but in Australia there very expensive for size of the machine so I'm very interested in the syil x7 I need rigid tapping which controller on this machine has this option? Also what post processor does it use ? Is it just fanuc post ? Cheers Mark
my machine has the syntec 22MA control, which i really like. yes it has rigid tapping. and now Fusion 360 has a dedicated post for the Syntec 22MA
the yellow on the camera is you must have it on auto white balance, find one you like and set it manually
wtf a schneeberger casting??! That is crazy in this price class :-P
How about the paper towel holder top left? You make it or buy it?
I bought one identical from Amazon
how much is the initial investment
Would you get the 5 axis add on for this mill?
it needs the Syntec 220MA control for full five axis motion
What was your total cost?
So, just for full disclosure, you received this machine for free with the sole purpose of being an influencer. Are you still running your Super Mini mill or did you move forward with acquiring a 5-axis mill?
There is one in Denmark, he speaks english very well.
Does it run on 400v? As 380v was just the old standard in Europe.
380-415v
Great video. I’d like to sell my tormach 1100mx and get a x7. How do you like the whole syil experience so far?
I've had good luck with my X7 only a few issues. I'd say that 1100mx is a bit more user friendly for one-offs and prototyping but no question the X7 is very fast , accurate and rigid.
they are both similar in that you will most likely service the machine your self if someting goes wrong.
Wesley , George , Jeff and Doug are amazing and always go out of their way to take care of their customers.
@@NerdlyCNC Thanks. I spoke with Jeff just the other day for some initial questions. Great conversation.
X7 has always been my way to go CNC for a small scale business. Everyone that knowns a bit about CNC cannot dislike this machine. In its price range there is no competition with other new machines out there. IF you try to build the same machine DIY you will end spending the same amount of money than buying it. The only one that comes with better price (but not epoxy granite structure) are the VMC 420, 422 and 425 from another Chinese brand. They are around 11-14K all included. Really nice too
@@____________________ok(post keeps getting deleted which is sad) Not sure if it's UA-cam policy but do not think so unfortunately 😰. Anyhow those machines are sold on Aliexpress under VMC 420, 422 or 425. Easy to find them and with the same name you can find a guy on UA-cam that has got one recently. Otherwise look at allcncrouter
They are no joke too. Hiwin rails, ATC, AC servos on all axis and spindle, multiple controllers available like Syil ecc...
@@____________________ok My pleasure 😁
@@7alfatech860 Do not know why my comments keep getting deleted, but anyhow I edited my previous comment. The actual name is VMC420, 422 and 425. That's why you could not find it.
@@____________________ok Exactly, and the other channel about this VMC is from the company itself.
@@____________________ok Yes, I have corrected my first post now. Anyhow same story here. I have been converting a BF20L for the past years and got pretty close to that total cost. I am thinking of selling it and import one of the VMC422 or 425 model. The price value is unbeatable and components used are good. I use the same Ac servo for the spindle and know well Hiwin rails and the AC servos they use for axis. I can tell it's a really good deal. Plus shipping is like 900$
Can some one gives me the price for this machine
Are you in Texas?
SYIL Machine Tools Inc located in Houston Texas
@@SyilCNC awesome! You they info ? Thanks for reply
How much did you run you
Roughly how much this machine cost if it's on the cheaper side I may purchase one in 3 to 4 years.
About 30-35K
I think people maybe get confused with what they think is accuracy vs repeatability? personally I would be more concerned w repeatability.
i hear you...but when installing leader pins in a mold accuracy has its place.
no bbtter camera just set White balance :)
iphone white balance cant be adjusted.
@@NerdlyCNCSettings/ Camera/ Record Video and toggle Lock White Balance
take the camera off auto white balance....that should fix your issue
i used an iphone...it wont allow manual white balance.
@@NerdlyCNCSettings/ Camera/ Record Video and toggle Lock White Balance
Ill trade anyone my brand new 1100mx fully loaded (36k$) probing, tool setter, ATC, operators console, micro arc 4th axis, and every tool holder they offer for a SYIL X7
Something tells me you have a big buyers remorse. The X7 just blows the 1100mx out of the water. Trust me I done my research for months!