AEW Fight Forever 2: 10 Improvements Fans NEED To See
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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1. Better priced DLC. Nobody wants to pay $10-$12 for one new wrestler or one new arena. WWE 2K gives us our money's worth. We get around five wrestlers for around $10.
2. No buying multiple season passes every time something new gets released. If a person has one season pass, it should be for all new releases.
Those are so obvious it goes to show how badly they dropped the ball. I wouldn't hold my breath for a sequel, but who knows.
Trying to say 2k did anything better is laughable. They made you pay for characters from one year to the next just cause you'd buy it and did! But let's hear how you're unhappy with a year 1 company game again.
Or no paid dlcs
You save when you buy the season.. it's the same business model as most non-wrestling games
A sequel? They aren’t done making the first one yet.
Looks like they are never finished making it 😂
The WWE games took a long time to catch its stride too.
@@619wiseyforever unfinished
@Darkeus1 and they still haven't in many regards
they technically are finished with the 1st one
This man Simon started the video by saying AEW fight forever is a good game😅😂
The foundation is there for a good game. Development wise they did the hardest thing to do which was start creating from the ground up. No existing engine, self funded etc.
The problem came when they needed to reach out to a big publisher (THQ Nordic hasn’t been reliable literally since the N64) & once Yukes got involved. Then we got the game that we were told it wasn’t going to be: Smackdown vs Raw 2006.
Simon thinks everything is good... i like simon, but, this is getting out of hand...
@@mrcllz we need Simon positivity, we have Jim Cornette for the negative talk
@@dregogetem i like both
@@mrcllz same
not to forget they also need to add the customization of match types/options like turning dq off/on, adjusting the time on matches, interferences on/off & etc
Its sad they have to add the most basic fundamentals of a wrestling game
I love your endless optimism, Simon, but this game is hot garbage, and 'different modes take a lot of work', or 'they'll build on this next time' isn't an acceptable excuse from any other full price AAA game, and it's less of an excuse for one that gave a wrestler with no dev experience a sizeable chunk of creative control.
Not just Gm mode they need to add a sandbox like mode similar to universe mode in 2k.
Also another thing with their career mode I would have it be a calendar mode to we’re you can pick an wrestler Ro pick standard then the mode because a rely big sandbox but you will have to play through 2 full years of the wrestler you picked to unlock the sandbox mode to make it even better
You forgot something crucial Simon. Its the main reason i stopped playing. Let you edit your CAWs stats without RTE mode. You can only improve your CAWs through rte which is annoying and tedious once when you want to create several people and expand your roster plus lots of moves are locked behind skills you have to unlock like springboard and mutiple finishers. Currently on wwe you can gives CAWs any and every move. Several finishers. And change their stats at will. While at the same time take a CAW thru career to grind and make him better. Im all for career modes with rpg style gameplay you improve your character but in my wrestling/sports games i also want to make op characters for fun and addition characters with accurate stats without doing career mode each time
This game makes me sad to think about what could have been. No reason to believe a sequel would be any better
I can tell the ones involved with the Steve Jobs sweater announcement had a VERY different idea of what they wanted with the game. I was worried when Omega started to distance himself from talking about the game the closer it got to what they consider the “alpha” trailer releases.
I remember cheat codes and playing games unlocking characters. Good old days.
First one still has that "unfinished early access" feel 😂
I mean if you love playing exhibition against CPU over and over, then hey this games for you.
that's because THQ came out and said it was & it was announced super early & ultimately was rushed out to consumers
Anyone who does that I believe has mental issues 😂😂 the AI is so terrible they barely ever do wrestling moves. I saw a UA-camr play finish “beat the elite” on the highest difficulty while only striking lmao
@@MR.__G the AI is trash, this game has no gm or season mode. Online CAWs chased away and destroyed online play, ain't no way anyone is still playing stampede or those mini games.
I think this game opened everyone's eyes, that "nostalgic controls" are fun for 2 hours but after that you need an actual game and features.
@@luchalibrememes the caws and ability definitely killed online. It was a bailout fest and then it turned into a race to their finisher. The game is simply fundamental flawed !! This is basically a wrestling game with practically no wrestling content.. and you’re definitely right on the nostalgia part
I jus got the game thru PlayStation plus and honestly if you are coming from playing wwe 2k the game is a big step down all the way across the board but if you can look past that and have patience to learn how to play I think it could be a enjoyable experience
Wait, it's on PS+ already? Right when I cancel my subscription.
well, they literally marketed as not going to compete with WWE for a super high budget game lol
@@Insanemonk11 so they give us a undercooked excuse of a game
@@Insanemonk11a billionaire is funding the game. I don’t want to hear any excuses about budget
@@MR.__G thats just weird you think rich people don't like ROI
The new stages and characters are good but we need more wrestling attires and less weird “skins”, new match types wouldn’t hurt either
The 3 latest videos have Simon Miller in them
GOLDEN UP ⬆️☝️🆙⬆️🔝💛
Someone send this to Tony Khan and the team that works on the game
None of this besides match types will fix the biggest issue for me and that’s how shallow every character feels and how unfun the gameplay is movesets are weak and once you’ve played it for 10 minutes everything past that feels the same
Honestly the gameplay itself was fine, but the lack of half the roster (even a lot of the popular wrestlers at the time), a lot of missing match types, a boring career mode, and an awful customization is what killed this game from the get go. However, the biggest insult to injury is that people who bought the Elite Edition only got season 1, and nothing else from the newer seasons. Devs got lazy and greedy and ruined the game before it could even take off.
They could make a good sequel if they were to take the gameplay from Fight Forever and just add on top of that
1. Fix The AI and Small Things
- Fix the AI and get a better system for kicking out and adding something for when you are getting thrown out in a casino match
2. Having a Lot of Match Types On Release
- Steel cage/hell in a cell, tornado tag, handicap, playing lights out/barbed wire outside of 1on1, first blood, falls count anywhere, backstage brawl, etc.
3. Having a Bigger, More Complete, Roster on Release
- With up to date attires/gimmicks, and also making sure that some of the most popular people in the company are in the game when it releases
4. Fixing The Customization of Arenas and Characters
- Maybe with something similar to what WWE games have now, but a very big emphasis on character customization. Also adding a community hub (Why has this not even been added to the first game?)
5. Adding a More Flushed Out Career or Other Mode
- Either make a long career mode where our own choices affect what PPVs they attend, what matches they are in, and who they are feuding with. Or give us something that goes from the beginning of AEW and goes along the biggest moments they have had or it follows a few different feuds
6. Stop Being So Stingy With The DLC
- I understand Edge, Jay White, Mercedes Moné, Kazuchika Okada, Will Ospreay, Mark Briscoe, etc. becoming DLC or not being in the game, but why are people that have been in the company and gotten over before the game came out DLC or not still not even in the game? (Keith Lee, Acclaimed w/ Billie Gunn, Swerve Strickland, Jamie Hayter, Austin and Colten Gunn, Claudio, Samoa Joe, Toni Storm, Saraya, etc.)
7. More Playable Characters/Legends
- This game only had a few unlockables (Paul White, Owen Hart, Cody Rhodes, Aubrey Edwards, Brodie Lee) but so many legends have signed with AEW or are still working with them and could be unlockables in the next game. (Billie Gunn, Dean Malenko, Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Mark Henry, Taz, Bret Hart, Gangrel, Raven)
All in all, this game is barebones and was way over priced. The devs need to listen to the community if they ever think about putting a sequel on the drawing board.
Simon is the only person that can be positive about paid DLC lol
Ragdoll physics I wish would be added to there game or wwe2k,that is what is missing in most wrestling’s games now, it’s boring seeing the same move animation without it being different everytime
Not a fan of the arcade style would prefer to be like 2k or the old smackdown vs raw style games
Brother, I don't know how to tell you but there isn't going to be a Fight Forever 2. There's like 7 people online playing. A month after release there was only like 50. He can't be dumb enough to invest in a game again.
he's got money to blow so he could if he wanted to
@@Kristian179 yes, until his dad pull the plug... or go broke
It’s a “good video game” lmao yeah,sure Simon.
Did not even know the first one actually came out
IDK,it became free on PS Plus recently, I've done 1 career mode as Penta now I'm trying to make my own wrestler, see how it goes
Is this the game that has less people playing than a ten year old TNA game?
I just got it for $15 (the base version) - is it worth it?
Aew fight forever needs better character models
I just want them to fix the match gameplay system. Like a timed kickout that requires skill, not luck. And not being impossible to kickout after 1 finisher. I can't have the matches I watch on TV, and to me that's a bad thing.
Let alone use wrestlers or do match types you see on TV..
It's simple I want a full wrestling game. What do I mea? Full entrances. I played wrestling games for more then 20 years and this was the first time a saw one without a full entrance. 6 player modes like 3v3. Modes that should have been easely made in the game like a submission mode or a I quit mode. A cage mace. A backstage brawl match. Some kind of Universe mode where you can play a weakly show. A improved creation suit with online COW downloads. A better pin and submission system without button mashing. And finaly a full roster on release. Essentially what I want is WWE2k14(their last game) with a AEW skins
Haven’t they said on so so many occasions they have no plan to make a 2nd one for absolute years and just plan to add to the current game?
Here I thought Simon knew something we didn't about leaked news lol
I want WWE2k14 (their last game) with a AEW skin. It's still arcade gameplay more on everything. Matches, roster, creation suit, gameplay, game modes
They haven't finished making the first game yet, still lots of bugs and glitches.
Was the game even a success to warrant a sequel? Even fans gave up on the game and there's literally 5 players left playing the game on steam.
Someone needs to explain to Simon how inappropriate the term “rule of thumb” is….never use it
Indeed
Ive been obsessively playing the wwe 2k games, and I tried fight forever recently when it dropped for free on the playstation, its bad compared to 2k24. I get its going for those old THQ style games, but it's damn near unplayable compared to 2k. This isn't promotion bias either, I watch AEW, some GCW, some MLW, and Stardom, it's just really no where near what 2k24 has going for it. 2k plays better, the creation suite is night and day, has way more playable wrestlers, and it looks a lot better. I think if they make a sequel, they're gonna have to improve on a lot, and I honestly don't think they should really even bother if AEW isn't ready to splash out some serious money on a different developer.
Fight Forever is a Fantastic game.
Problem is that its a 20 dollar game that sold for 70 plus.
Try $10. It sucks!
Like so many of us, I wanted Fight Forever to be sooooo much better than it is. I'm all for anything and everything that can make a sequel better.
A real career mode. GM Mode. A half decent creation sweet. that's it
They should add Cross console stadium stampede
That random wtf mode is the best thing in this 🗑️
Unless they finally add in Matt Damon as DLC then nobodies gonna care. People have been waiting too long
That game is absolutely a scam I can’t believe I purchased that game I hope their next game is much better and they learned a lesson
I’m waiting for reviews and a sale if they make another they bamboozled all of us
I want to know who’s bright idea it was to lock active wrestlers behind a pay wall ? Every dlc wrestler besides edge should’ve been in the game at launch when they charged full price ! They’re also locking old game modes like towers/tournaments, music tracks and caw parts behind a paywall 😅
I liked it. Neither the best nor worst wrestling game but its decent. 6½/10 imo.
only one improvement: make it, at least, fun.
Yeah. Our company is going downhill fast, we have to many wrestlers, and no ratings. Our game is overpriced unfinished garbage, with money hungry DLC. But you know what our top priority sould be? A new game. Yup. That's a big brain tactical move right there. 👍
Simon will say or do anything for an AEW job. I give Simon 1 middle finger up
Does anyone actually want a gm mode?
It's so bad I bought it on a Friday, and sold it on the Sunday.
And now PS are giving it away for free 😂
The game is like the show, it’s lackluster.
AEW would be insane to make a second on right now when the game made almost no profit and is a broken, nearly unplayable mess. It would be just another useless money sink. When the game is being sold at Walmart for less then 4 bucks only a year after being out, it's not a success.
Pretty Nice!
I'm sorry but the length of time it took to make this game. It should have been the most well developed game of all time
LMFAO to see this video pop up. This $20 dollar game that many spend $70 hard earned money on. Seeing Simon struggle to say anything negative about aew is always a sight to see.
Simon can't crtise Aew period
Still watching but I want Full Entrances!
Game had all the potential but all the add ons AEW was charging should have been standard & doomed the game
Enjoy AEW, but sadly this game was'nt great. Was hoping for a more inbetween arcade/sim style, but for me it was too arcade side.
The clips used are rage bait PHIL!
full entrances aren't a waste of time, the lack of full entrances cost them less 60 bucks and i bet there's more that looked at aew ff and went the other direction, point is why would i buy a game thats less than another game?
the gameplay keeps me coming back lol
To the same boring 7 match types ? Lol
@@MR.__G nah I mainly stick to 3 lmao singles,triple threat,fatal 4 way.those controls are one of the best controls for a wrestling game imo. I do wish they had more match types though
I really enjoy this game. The gameplay is awesome, it just needs more content and options
Why would they even make a 2nd one after how bad the 1st one flopped lol
1. Abandon production of fight forever2
2. Promise to never make Fight Forever 2.
3-10 keep promise from step 2
Just be way better!!
I didnt realize they finished the first one😂
The game actually perfectly represents the actual promotion. Broken at a fundamental level and created so Tony had something to throw his dads money at.
1. THQ Nordic & Yukes cannot be involved in the next game.
Find the folks still at Syn Sophia aka AKI Corporation who still have copyright to the No Mercy engine hopefully, create your own new studio just for them if you have to.
2. Publish the game themselves. WB Games, THQ, EA, all of them will prioritize more microtransactions & greed over delivering a quality product.
3. At minimum, No Mercy gameplay options. Even if this makes the control scheme feel like it took a step back. The lack of match customization was pretty atrocious. No tornado tag when that has been a staple of wrestling games since 1995 is inexcusable.
4. CAW. Older games with way better create a character options while this creation suite was easily the most disappointing part of this game.
The whole thing. The changes they need to make are basically the whole game.
I can't buy a 2. I won't buy DLC. I gave them $100 for a barebones game that's seen minimal improvement. 2K24 is the best wrestling game (IMO) since the 64 days. AEW had the chance to kill the yearly money grab that 2K pulls but just did it a different way. Haven't played it at all since 2K was released.
And the funny part is aew ended being the money grab. Bad enough they charged full price for a beta. Then they turn around and charge you for wrestlers, caw parts, old game modes that should’ve already been in the game. Soulless cash grab !
Free dlcs
It's a dreadful game. If they try this again, no DLC, a proper season mode, don't release it as a broken mess and fix the difficulty so you need more than one button to easily beat yout opponent on the hardest setting whilst blindfolded
The entrances not being there is a huge problem, and they could have fixed it w all the bs "updates". Also, the game just isn't very fun. I didn't pay for the first one and I won't buy the next one.
I agree. I play on the switch and this runs way better than 2k. So it’s not perfect, but it’s almost there. Would like them to expand on creat a wrestler parts, costumes championship, and ways to effect the roster in road to elite
A sequel will never happen with how bad the first one flopped
More match types is easy AF to add...they should 😬
As long as they stay in this arcade sht mode and don`t go realistic as WWE 2k does, this brings nothing! Also a proper CAW function is essential, maybe the most essential thing of ALL!
I have physical copy so I can hold the biggest pos in wrestling history in my hands and yes this is worse than the shockmaster AEW ppv are the best but this game is so bad wwe22 is better by a lot
I have fun with the game tbh.
This game stinks. It was free in PS+ and I still feel like I’ve been ripped off
how is this wrestling news are they going to do a wwe 2k update now because this is just pandering to aew failure of a game😒
I never played this game but I'll comment it's garbage anyway.
- this comment section while also playing wwe2k games
Lmao. People in the comments acting like the WWE 2k games were always good (They definitely were not) or that they haven't had some real stinkers.
This was the first game. Get a grip. 😂
Smackdown on ps1 was wwf’s 1st game with that engine and it offers more wrestling content than this garbage and it came out 24 years ago
@@MR.__G Did I mention those games? Nope.
I said the WWE 2K games. Catch up.
@@Darkeus1 you mentioned FF being the 1st game. I gave you an example of a 1st game that came out in 2000 and it has more content than FF. So cut that 1st game excuse out
The create a wrestler needs to be overhauled. Make it on par with what no mercy did and this game will be 🔥
I know Simon is Mr. Positive and I love him for it; but this game is trash.
AEW said during development that the game will be constantly updated over time with things being added changed etc, so there won't actually be a sequal game at any point.
By constant updates they meant over charging for wrestlers who should’ve been in the game and making people wait months at a time for each.
its been a year and all they have added is paid DLC.....
This game sucks way to many loading screens
The game is dead. Forget it.
Didpite all the hate I believe aew is good I agree the price is hefty but if that’s why u hate it don’t buy and if you don’t like the game don’t hate on it just leave it be
The first one flopped so badly it lost over $20M. No one is playing it now because of how bad it is. If Tony is stupid enough (of course he is) to fork out all that money, and then some, on a sequel, he deserves to lose money of it. AEW is in a worse place right now financially than WCW was in 2000. People are tuning out in droves. People aren't buying tickets to see them. One of their new executives just bashed the city and arena they had just worked in over stuff that is THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF AEW and not the building.
TK pays (to make a new AEW video game) forever. Tony: Big Daddy Shad/Shahid, I need more money from your auto parts (manufacturing) supplier company, Flex-N-Gate.
Bin the whole thing terribly cheap looking art style half the roster missing and basically nothing to beyond the story mode and crap online