Food Theory: MrBeast Is WRONG About Wonka's Chocolate River! (Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory)
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Listen, you know by now that when @MrBeast talks about something food related, we are going to cover it. Today we are taking a look at his Willy Wonka inspired factory. Specifically, the deadliness of it. You see, I think they underestimated what was going on here. That place is FULL of death traps not meant to be ignored. What is the WORST? Watch to find out!
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I do remember watching a documentary of the original Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory movie. The actors said that the chocolate river stank and the chubby boy that jumped into the river struggled to get the stink off.
Lol who knew
That sounds sad.
wtf are these replies?!?
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“My chocolate is not meant to be touched by human hands.”
*That’s not a very good motto, Wonka.*
He did invent the teleporting TV screen. Maybe the chocolate teleports into your mouth?
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@@AHHHHHHHH21 They're all over my comment, too. This is worse than Mitchells vs the Machines.
Holy crap the amount of boys 😂😂
@@AHHHHHHHH21 lol
One little word choice correction, The 2005 movie isn't a re-make, it's an adaptation of the book that is much more faithful to them than the older movie.
The children of the author didn't like the old movie, so they were heavily involved in the newer one. They even used the song lyrics straight from the page.
Also, fun fact. The actor for Agustus is a complete dead ringer for the description in the book. He was so perfectly fit for the role visually that he was chosen despite the fact that he doesn't speak any english, and in-fact couldn't swim.
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@@kuzo759Listen that meme was never funny, stop fooling yourself.
Exactly. Everyone always calls it a remake, but it's not based on the old movie at all but 100% on the book
Roald Dahl
@@_what._.I mean considering that most adaptations back then were adapted from books no ones heard of like a sub niche set probably know about it the internet has come a long way of letting you know if it’s adaptation or stand alone or remake
To be fair, its valid that Wonka wouldnt want someone touching the liquid chocolate. Its a safe assumption that at somepoint down the line, the chocolate from the river gets repurposed into chocolate bars, or other chocolate candy, hence why he wouldnt want some child putting his dirty little fingers in it. That also begs the question as to why he would make that kind of chocolate so accessible
also why wouldn't he tell the kids that before he let them run wild in the candy room they're like 10 they don't know better
Being fair he doesn't NORMALLY let people in...and the whole tour was designed as a test
Yeah chocolate made with some guys fingers all touching it up yeah that's disgusting
He made it accessible for asthetic purposes
@Jesse Schoedel Pretty sure that ain't the only health violations Willy Wonka got to worry about.
I actually liked the remake, mostly because Depp is more accurate to how insane Wonka really is in the source materials. Like, he's not just your everyday sociopath with a weird, otherworldly chocolate factory. He's properly cracked, and Depp is just better at playing that character with a thin veneer of sensibility over the turbulent depths of insanity.
same i like the remake more
I liked the original, but when me and my family went to watch the remake I absolutely lost it every single time the oompa lumpas just started break dancing when a child is having a panic attack
@@tripdillon1074 Yeah, the source material intended the entire chocolate factory experience to feel a bit like a psychopathic candy fever dream, so they're right on the money with the dancing, singing oompa loompas.
It’s not a remake, it’s a more accurate interpretation of the book, not saying the first one wasn’t good, but I do like the new one more
This was very well written! Great use of language
I actually really like the remake, I feel like it's way more accurate. Willy being trapped and pretty much alone in the factory would make him some inane socially awkward guy
My thoughts exactly
Me too. I love both versions, but the Depp version was a bit more faithful to the book if I remember correctly.
Yes. I agree.
Lowkey, this remake is my absolute favorite Johnny Depp movie.
@@briarwolf0501 bruh have u seen da book the first one is wayy more accurate
"Chocolate is hot when liquid"
Not if you use coconut or sunflower oil. That's how Chocolate Dip works and it's both wet at room temperature before it's cold-tempered, and perfectly safe on the skin
And it’s honestly colder to the touch at it’s melting point. It only needs to be hotter when keeping a constant liquid state so the air doesn’t cool it down. But even so it only needs to be a couple degrees warmer than our own internal body heat.
I was a professional chocolatier and was just about to come here to say this as well! I handed dipped everything, and chocolate at temp, 98°, is plenty liquid enough! That’s without any extra added oils. You wouldn’t boil alive
@@fionariley739 I honestly don't know how he didn't notice that you can melt chocolate in your hand.
@@fionariley739 but what about the depth? Wouldn't the stuff at the lowest part be more solidified?
Can chocolate made with oil be turned into unrefrigerated chocolate bars tho?
Matt called the 2005 river cgi. But they made a liquid that looked like molten chocolade, its mostly done practicle, thats why it looks so good, especially compared to the cgi chocolade in the opening credits. This just blows my mind they made real looking fake chocolade
But somehow it looks fake. I don't know how you can make a practical effect look like bad CGI. That's honestly impressive. By the way, I only mean it looks fake now. For 2005 it's pretty good. Not all the effects in the original hold up.
@@coolnerdlll6053 i mean, yes there are a few fake shots and those dont look all too good, mostly whenever the tube thing is in the chocolate and collecting it. but for me the main reason i cant go back to the original is how bad the special effects look. and thats where the 05 shines. the river in the 05 version looks like the chocolate in chocolate fountains. the reason it probably looks fake is cuz it ins't as viscous as normal chocolate and some shots the fountain was probably turned off cuz of the sound.
They actually used real chocolate for it, that's a fact and common knowledge.
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Matt is reffering to only the waterfall when he says this, as yes, the rest of the scene was indeed genuine
Fun fact, the lyrics for the songs in the Tim Burton Film came directly out of Roald Dahl's book. In fact the Johnny Depp film is a far more faithful adaptation than the Gene Wilder one, with Charlie initially turning down the Factory and the subplot with Wonka's father being the few major changes made.
More faithful? I would argue its a more direct and technical adapt8ion, 8ut the screen play for the original movie was written ( and I want to say directed?) 8y the 8ook author. The things he changed were changed to convey the same intentions with the tech they had access to and to account for the differences in telling a story in a movie vs a 8ook. I honestly like all three versions more or less equally, the gothic undertones in the Depp one really jive with me, 8ut I also find it weird when people say the movie written after the authors passing is more faithful or tone accur8 than the one written and overseen by the author himself.
@@cristlesappire21 why so manys 8s?
@@SaraSong-mw3zm could be a typing quirk, or their keyboards broken
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@@cristlesappire21 direct and technical adaptation? sounds like another way of saying faithful.
So fun fact.
What I always loved about the Johnny Depp version was each child’s shaming song is almost verbatim their associated cautionary/shaming poem from the original novel put to a fitting music genre (expect for violet cause hers is too violent for general movie audiences - her poem is about a woman who chewed so much she chewed her own tongue off).
oh god i didnt know that o__o
The lyrics for the Johnny Depp version of Violet’s song include, “And with one great, tremendous chew/They bite the poor girl’s tongue in two (in reference to her “chewing muscles”)/ That is why we try so hard/ To save Ms. Violet Beauregard.”
Part of the reason I like the remake so much is because I did actually read the books growing up and it was so much more accurate to the source material.
@@SilverAshes109 I forgot about that reference. I just knew they didn’t use the poem verbatim like they did the other children.
@@mndlessdrwer I actually read the books growing up too. Another dumb fact I know about it:
Roald Dahl had died in 1990 but his widow Felicity saw the 2005 version and said after that Roald would have really liked that version for how close it stuck to his source material (he hated the version with Gene Wilder).
The waterfall was so that it would thoroughly mix the chocolate. The river itself is a slow, air release method before it's later put in a vacuum chamber in the background of the factory in the original movie.
Good to know.
in the original it took ~10 seconds for the chocolate to flow across not to mention the ours on the boat will cause more bubbles in the river
@@snyderfamily5622 you have a point.
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It actually is genius to use a waterfall, though. Either as a cover for the actual method done or with a special secret process after to deal with the air trapped in the chocolate from the waterfall frothing. Either way, it keeps the parents and their kids (particularly the ones with the wealth to start off for such a factory to be built) from copying the chocolate making process as competition.
I also thought that it could just be the part too show off, and at the end it goes to another (hidden) part of the factory that actually does all the process.
I love Matpat’s version of the “”come with me & you’ll be in a world of pure imagination”, in both this episode and his film theory episode.
NEO in the Truman Show
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Not sure but did he sing it in another video?
@@arthurlam751 yeah In his film theory episode about how the factory has a whole bunch of OSHA violations.
I read this right as he started to sing it
With it being said that the chocolate being hot, then Augustus wouldn't have fallen in in the 1st place. As soon as he'd reach in for a drink, it's most likely burn his hand so I doubt he'd continue leaning over the river to keep drinking
Yes and no. While the chocolate would need to be very hot to mix, it would cool down a lot as it flowed thanks to all the aeration unless there is some kind of heating element under there. [Which, yikes.] I work with chocolate between 85°F and 95°F, though it gets to that temperature after tempering when I'm doing it. It still flows quite well at that temperature- especially if not properly tempered. So the chocolate further away from the waterfall could be as low as 90 without risking it seizing on contact with cool surfaces.
Though, if you want the air out again, you'd absolutely want it on the hotter, runnier side. Even then, you don't burn immediately and could get several handfuls before it went from "this is quite warm" to "it burns!"
@@sofiadragon6520 Willy Wonka likely had a magical or high tech device (Or both since both versions seem to have machines like that) that took out the air at high speed or magically grabbed the air to use in some chocolate scented air type candy he sells or plans to sell.
It is a sad fact of the human condition that the reason everything has so many warning labels on them is because people have done incredibly stupid things that seem self-evident in their stupidity. If you invent a safer product, rest assured that the world will invent a bigger idiot. Look at the people who bought the devices to defeat the safety systems in Tesla's auto-driving features.
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I always thought it was ganache so that it could be at room temp while being liquid (and even more delicious than plain chocolate).
It’s pretty much only a matter of time until MrBeast takes notice of MatPat’s work and invite him over for a video.
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One thing, if the chocolate is not tempered, it is liquid at much lower temperatures. I often make chocolate and I temper it by adding grated chocolate when it gets down to 36°C, and at that point it is definitely still liquid before the grated chocolate melts, mixes in and tempers it.
Yeah I was thinking this too. Yes, probably to get it to flow at the amount that would be a good river or a good water fall it'd have to be MUCH hotter ... but chocolate bars literally melt in your hands ... so clearly it wouldn't need to be that hot. In fact leave one in your pocket and you pretty much have a chocolate caprisun in your pocket.
I was initially going to comment something like this since I work at a chocolate factory, but then I took into consideration the surface area. While it can melt at lower temperatures, it will also begin to cool faster with the surface being exposed to the cool air. In order to keep it liquid, it needs to be hot enough that the air won’t effect it.
@@Sakine-animate good point 👍
@@Sakine-animate are you willy wonka in disguise tryna defend his chocolate waterfall? this is a safe space wonka
It's possibly more likely to be due to the grating than the tempering itself. A smaller divided up substance will always melt at a faster rate than a larger solid piece.
chocolate actually has a much lower melting point if it’s not tempered. tempering is a process of heating and cooling chocolate in order to ensure it stays solid at room temperature; it has something to do with the structure of the cocoa butter crystals. with that said, i’m not sure anyone would want their chocolate to be untempered if they’re going to be selling it in bar form, but in (film) theory, it could be possible to have a not-too-hot chocolate river!
6:08 that “we’ll boil him for a minute more” verse is apparently only available in the extended BluRay/HD-DVD and Netflix version of the 2005 remake, so most people who watched the film had never witnessed that scene.
I never did uwu
@@angieashdeerfox that's very illegal
No its not
WILLY WONKA IS ON NETFLIX?
Now we need the MatPat-Gordon Ramsey crossover where MatPat and Gordon together make the scientifically and taste wise best Thanksgiving/ Christmas dinner
And then he can cross out "Be called Donkey by Gordon Ramsay" from his bucket list
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But Gordon is British, he likely doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving, and _American_ holiday. Vive Medici!
@@countrycoffeecup7772 would also work with Christmas
6:27 another varriable for Wonka's side is the type of chocolate, or how it's made. Since it is a funky factory, the chocolate may have a lower melting point than normal chocolate.
I've also noticed some chocolates that melt in my hand into a somewhat liquidly form, not flowing level but defiantly liquid level.
That's something that I was thinking too! Depending on the percentage of cacao and what it's mixes with, the river may only be slightly warm
I'm this is not related but this should've gone on film theory and not on food theory
I can't believe Jimmy got Gordon Ramsey and Joey Chestnut involved with his video. He never ceases to amaze me.
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to be fair, he has been working with Joey for a while now
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I’m so mad that MatPat didn’t take the opportunity to say “Justice for Augustus” rather than “Justice for Gloop”
Yep bots
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Justice for Augustus!
I love how this went from explaining mrbeast's chocolate factory to explaining how chocolate works
I grew up with the Johnny Depp version. It was also my mums fav movie so ive seen it a few times. I love the awkward, out off touch wonka more. ALSO the set is just 1000x more cool in the remake.
It’s not a remake, it’s a more accurate interpretation of the book, not saying the first one wasn’t good, but I do like the new one more
1 is willy wonka and the chocolate factory, the nestle branded version made to help sell candy. the other is Charlie and the chocolate factory so yea technically the newer 1 is more to the book, but I grew up with willy wonka
I grew up with the 2005 version. I liked the creepiness that Johnny Depp brought to the character. It really helped me get a better understanding of the character when I read the book in middle school. Overall, it was just more visually appealing than the other version.
@M!llieisf!ckingbis?xual fair enough
Agreed
In the case of the volume of the chocolate in the waterfall one would imagine it would be accurate; they had to build the actual waterfall for the set and would need to know how much water they need in the set to make it work. At that point you might as well use the actual numbers your technicians have already calculated.
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I never realized how much effort they mightve put into WW'sCF.
i feel bad about all the bots, so i just wanna say your most likely right and it's a good point.
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This made me realise the trauma poor Augustus and his mother must have gone through, he seemed like one of the nicer kids in the group yet he got the most gruesome punishment. He didn’t even intentionally break any rules, and yet now what was supposed to be the best day of his life is now the worst. Imagine how terrifying being sucked into boiling liquid and being squeezed through a rusty pipe must be, even if it was hard to drown. The icing on the cake is that none of the other kids even seem to care about him while he’s boiling alive, and his mother definitely under-reacts to it. No matter how greedy he was, he didn’t deserve that.
What if I told you, that every room the kids were taken to, was meant to eliminate at least one of them from becoming the future owner of the factory
Y’know, there’s nothing really to say that Wonka *didn’t* have one of those air-eliminating systems somewhere else in the factory, though.
Sure, but the waterfall method still seems impractical. He would have much more air to eliminate then if he ran it through a mixer instead.
It doesn't look very hygienic either, those Ompa lompies or whatever they are called don't wear hair nets so expect a lot of weirdly colored hair in your chocolate bars.
@@loke6664 I mean, if your waterfall is outputting ten times the amount of product as a single Hershey's factory because of it, seems like it's WILDLY practical.
And I'd assume the temperature, combined with simple filtering, will take care of most contaminants. It's not like anyone is swimming in the river, and Wonka specifically says that the pipe Augustus gets stuck in goes to a boiler.
As long as the chocolate in the river is filtered and agitated, it should be feasible.
@@loke6664 True but it doesn’t have to be efficient for it to still be a possibility?
@@TheKrossRoads Still. no hairnets so there will be green hair in your chocolate bars.
It also looks nightmarish to clean, there is a frigging tunnel with weird psychological effects it flows through, that would be very hard to clean up. There is no way they don't have to drain the river and clean it all up at least a few times a year.
So yeah, I can buy that the speed of the water fall might be worth the problem of getting air out of the chocolate but the river thing is super impractical. There isn't even a railing and there is grass growing around the place.
I worked in many factories and not using glass tubes instead of an open river seems rather insane to me. Then again, Wonka has clearly lost all his marbles and bribed the health and safety inspectors....
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Fun fact:
Melted chocolate is actually a weapon in prison. The hot chocolate scalds the victim and harden on the burns, making them super painful.
In one of the Diary of a Wimpy Kid books, they try using hot chocolate as a replacement for boiling water in medieval combat. They don't make it properly, so it's unusable, but the idea has potential.
Reminds me of the molten chocolate in the game Escapists 2
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@@psytf2 its in the first one too
The history of chocolate shows that it was originally a liquid manufactured for drinking, usually hot but could be drunk cold, it wasn't made into bars until a (I believe Cadbury) employee left a churning machine filled with chocolate on overnight. This did something with the Cocoa solids and allowed it to set when cool
Alright Matpat,you've covered all about food on this channel, but have you thought about what your food comes packaged in? Recently, I found out that scientists have been working to create a food wrap that is more sustainable and even edible. What do you think? Is there a better way to make edible food wrappers?
My only issue with food packaging is that it's very hard to make something waterproof that is not plastic at all. Even paper cups and milk cartons have internal plastic linings that you usually can't separate to recicle (if you can even recicle, that is, with the current crisis after China stopped receiving international trash to recicle). If they could synthesize something from like, citrus fruits that could be digested or at least could be broken down by the environment much faster, that would be ideal. I mention citrus fruits because they have clusters of liquid pouches protected by at least one membrane in the smaller levels, and if undisturbed, they are basically waterproof.
well first of all, we need to wrap that edible wrapper in something and even if you say that we can use recyclable wrapping, we can just eliminate the edible wrapping to reduce cost so there is no reason for edible wrapping.
@@desavaliakshith5642 Pretty sure a edible packaging would also be biodigradable so even if it gets bad or dirty or people don't want to eat it, they could just throw it or bury it.
There was edible spoon made in Kerala made of Bajra (don't know it's English name). The spoon could be eaten, thrown or buried and it would degrade in a few weeks rather than the thousands of years that plastic takes.
As for costs, the edible spoons were cheaper than plastic spoons. The only thing it lacked was investors and capital. So edible packaging with enough investment would easily be cheaper and a better alternative.
@@karanaher5030 thats my point, no need of edilble PACKAGING if you can just use biodegradable wrapping and i never said anything against edible cutlery.
Edible wrappers, while sounding cool would be very unsanitary. The wrapper is there to keep bacteria and dirt from touching your food. Eating the protective layer defeats the purpose of the protective layer.
The Johnny Depp Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is actually closer to the original book. It's definitely grown on me, though the Gene Wilder version is still the more fun, and probably iconic version.
What I like about the Johnny Depp version is how much more of a fantasy world the chocolate factory is. I gotta admit that I've never seen the original version as a kid, but whenever I see scenes from that movie, the chocolate factory just makes me kinda sad. The one with Johnny Depp has nice bright colors and fantastical landscapes. I think it better shows what the factory is like for Charlie.
@@Roozyj I’ve seen both and to be honest, I feel the same-
I like depp’s acting in the remake! It’s creepy and fitting for a man who’s been Essentially isolated from childhood (and is strangely relatable for an autist watching lol), the sets are amazing and a lot of the pieces aren’t actually CGI, even if it looks like it in the final cut
I do think the original is good, and more kids-movie-esque, but a lot of it just looks dull and idk… messy? Incomplete? I don’t know how to describe it.
Obviously that’s just because of the time period it was made in but still
Also they have the original songs.
I love the Depp version. Its definitely over hated for not being like the original movie.
@@Roozyj Thats Tim Burton for you, Dude made Nightmare before Christmas amongst other amazing movies. His artistic vision is incredible.
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So, the Johnny Depp movie is not only more accurate to the book, it's also more accurate to science. Neat.
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I just didn't like the part of the movie where it showed the cow being whipped as a joke.
@@greywolf7577 It's part of the book though. "Where do you think whipped cream comes from?"
@@greywolf7577 It a funny joke
Okay seriously, why does everyone think the original looks like sewage, have so few of you actually interacted with the stuff you don't know it's not a bright red? At worst it looks like a clay slurry at best a watered down tomato soup.
Augustus isn't wrong for drinking from the river, that's why Willy Wonka is being panicked but polite about it, he recognized it as a legitimate mistake to be made and tries to get his attention. No what Augustus does wrong is refuses to listen to Wonka when he tries to get his attention, literally never stops eating, even before going into the factory where free candy was basically a given. And then has the audacity to not know how to float, let alone swim.
That's because it looks like sewage and not like chocolate at all
Let me explain, so people consider the chocolate in the first movie too not look like sewage not because of the color, but because of the viscosity of it, it’s practically water
Well theres like 6 different precursors in the transition from cocoa nib to actual chocolate bar. Which stage was the waterfall actually in? Why assume it was nearly finished, ready to mold molten chocolate?
@@paulblichmann2791 it's most likely chocolate liquor or something, given that you see the Oompa Loompas moving sugar up to be mixed in but even then I'm pretty sure chocolate liquor isn't that consistency
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This theory makes me wonder if you would ever do a theory regarding Would the kids survive the chocolate factory or no? Like would Augustus survive the river and/or drown in the pipe? Would violet survive becoming a blueberry human being over 2x her size, would veruca make it falling into the garbage chute and would Mike be ok shrinking down and being stretched in the taffy puller, and Charlie survive or no the glass elevator smashing through that mirror ceiling?
A food theory idea: why can Dairy Queen’s blizzards be held up side and not fall out and also how long it can be held upside. You can also see what flavor stays the best in the cup
That would depend on the temperature of the room because if the icecream touching the cup melted it would get slippery, so he'd need to find the average temperature of a Dairy Queen. Do you think that would be information he could find or do you think he'd need to make some estimations or guesses?
The ones with chunks of other items would hold up the best. Also it has to be fresh so it hasn’t melted. From my experience the Mint Chocolate one is best.
My wife used to work at a DQ. There's a reason they turn it upside down then IMMEDIATELY turn it right side up. And if you don't make the Blizzard right? Ice cream soup.
@@FelicityUwU just do room temp
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Fun fact matpat : The chocolate river in the remake (the one with Johnny depp as Willy wonka) is actually real the whole set was made it wasn’t cgi but it’s not edible 😣
@@rockcactus5586 your dad?
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It’s not a remake, it’s a more accurate interpretation of the book, not saying the first one wasn’t good, but I do like the new one more
Oof.
7:30 he used that clip in the exact context and humor as the movie does. The whole point of what Wonka (depp) says is that it is weird and uncomfortable because he has no social skills, he lives alone and away from people. Whatever your preference is between the new and original film, this is not a valid clip to make fun of the new one.
Comparing the movies to the book, the Johnny Depp version is hands down the better movie. It's worlds more accurate, and catches a lot of the themes better. Minus the dentist stuff
Agreed I’m mostly okay with the dentist stuff but it’s not as bad as the night mares I had after the originals boat scene
I actually prefer the Johnny Depp version...
@@angelicasimmons6858 Yep and people clown on me for that.
It's more accurate to the book, but that doesn't make it better.
@@coolnerdlll6053 It’s also just more fun to watch! The visuals are amazing and the voice acting is great
Everybody should watch the making of the remake of that movie. The making of the Oompa Loompa songs and choreography are incredible, the guy learned and repeated the whole dances in each different position flawlessly... He's a trooper!
Legit the johnny depp movie has a factory bigger than Site-19 of the SCP foundation
Anytime I hear someone saying "oh, they just did CGI and copy and pasted him" I turn into ✨that girl✨an pull up like "um, ACTUALLY...." We respect Deep Roy and his dedication to that film in this house 😤
@@HoneyBloood That's an "um, actually" situation I totally support. The dude was the MVP he did a terrifying amount of work to get all those scenes done.
@@HoneyBloood Good to know because I didn't!
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I still can’t look at that Wonka and think, “That’s Johnny Depp?”
My thoughts on it being boiled: he was drinking it before he fell, so he should’ve known it was super hot
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That 2005 movie really scared me as a kid. The mishaps that happen to the bad kids was really disturbing. Especially the scene of all of them leaving the factory. I’m still hit hard by body horror now because of it
2:50 that was the best and cleanest song i have ever heard you sing😂❤🎉😊
Wonka only mixed his chocolate by waterfall; there may have been other processes later to remove the air bubbles for all we know. Also, on the subject of temperature, it's really easy to make chocolate a liquid at room temperature, and to make it runny at high-but-still-safe temperatures. One such way is coconut oil, which is a great way to make that chocolate "crack" that you sometimes see on ice cream; it's a smooth liquid until you freeze it.
For example if we consider the extraction tubes to be creating a vacuum that could theoretically remove the air added by the waterfall process/otherwise lower the air content by such a degree that the air bubbles aren't even noticeable or provide a unique lightness that makes Wonka chocolate, Wonka chocolate
@@sebay4654 The Vacuum tube is a great explanation and if you add a slope ramp on the other side that vibrates you would get a bubble free product (I'm Imagining a slope that pours into molds that run on a conveyor. The Slope would have the heating / cooling elements needed to get the product to the correct temp to settle in the mold and would negate the temp differences that the open air river would cause.)
Impractical and expensive, so not recommended IMO.
@@nehpets216 THE SLOPE! Such a good name and i imagine the room is mountain/skiing themed.
I was thinking that too
Some chocolates have even been designed to melt only in the mouths of people or at ver high temperatures, this is used in war to give the soldiers a quick sugar rush
1:53 it isnt cgi. they actually melted a lot of chocolate. same with the squirrels. They actually trained them.
SO DID AGUSTUS'S ACTOR ACTUALLY BOIL IN THERE?!!!!!!! WHAT
@@Mary.sLb3 IDK.
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What makes it worse is Augustus actor had a fear of Drowning/Water
i love the mini songs that MatPat made up for the video
from 0:40 - 0:47 and the other one from 2:54 - 3:02
How are they even gonna call him greedy, they put him in a room and told him he could eat everything, with nothing telling him to not touch the chocolate river.
Honestly Augustus should have won the factory
He didn’t stop when he was told to stop
If he won the factory he would be dead within a year
Producing that much chocolate in 1971 is very impressive, however, it’s even more impressive when you remember Wonka doesn’t only sell chocolate. He sells every type of candy you can think of and STILL puts out that much chocolate
ye got to be good🍫
I love the 2005 moive tbh, the songs were a bop, Willy wonka obviously had a skrew lose from being alone for all those years which is understandable, the acting over all is very impressive, they litterally trained squirrels for this movie how cool is that and lastly the effects in this movie are litterally godly for its time.
The waterfall could actually be good in the end as long as the chocolate is flat at the end. Since the waterfall is an earlier stage production area, it wouldn't be difficult for them to compensate later in the production cycle to get out the air. For comparison to the home choco example, the waterfall would be whisk to mix the chocolate, not the mold.
So well said!!
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i love the remake, and i think wonka is much more characterised, i kinda like how he's not that social and a bit of an introvert, it makes sense
I grew up only knowing the remake so I have a bit of a bias, but I loved that movie. Just the idea of a room made of candy sounded wonderous to me.
Reading the comments, I'm glad most of us are at the point where we can stop hating on the remake for clout.
“Air bubbles are not wanted in candy.” Maybe that’s why it’s a river, the length and movement dilutes or removes the air bubbles. We also don’t see what happens to the chocolate downriver, or up the pipe.
I was thinking the same thing. It's not like it went straight from waterfall into a chocolate mold. It's in a meandering slow river then followed by off scene processing. Hard to imagine the air would stay suspended in the chocolate right after Matt just told us how much denser liquid chocolate is than water. It'll bubble out of the river.
I agree.
@@MrEscape314 The more viscous a fluid, the more dissolved gases it can hold onto.
That being said, we also have to consider at what stage in the chocolate making process the chocolate is in in that river. It could be at the cocoa liquor stage, which would require more agitation than the conching stage (where you basically mix the cocoa mass with heat to make chocolate) to create cocoa mass and would be more liquidy at room temperature. Which makes more sense as you would still have lots of cocoa butter in the mix at a certain stage, and making it 'frothy' can help remove more of the cocoa butter by causing the fatter butter to 'rise' to the top. Distributing cocoa liquor for further processing about the factory to make various different chocolates and chocolatey treats from the cocoa liquor before it was fully separated into cocoa mass and cocoa butter would also make sense, as there are slightly different processes required for whatever you're trying to make.
I love how Matt looks at every single pixel in everything just to entertain us keep up the good work
It's chocolate water
you mean you love how he pays people to do it
Lol
There's no reason to assume that the chocolate fountain is the last step in the process, he could easily have a post processing step to remove that air
I feel like I'm one of very few who actually love the Depp version of the movie a *lot* more. The best part about the old one was Gene Wilder; the story was a reject version from Dahl. I honestly hated the story, and preferred the book proper and the newer adaptation a lot more.
Agreed. And the Depp version's soundtrack was awesome.😊
I have a question though, sure he's mixing it via waterfall in that process but it's then being pumped via suction to the fudge room. One way of making fudge would have you mixing your chocolate with a hot sugar syrup so as to create a fine crystalline formation inside the chocolate. Now while aerated chocolate would be terrible for bars, it could make the process of integrating the chocolate with the sugar syrup easier.
What I want to know is when Wonka says 'mixing' does he mean literally mixing as in getting all of the separate ingredients that goes into milk chocolate into some stable solution or does he mean something else? After all, this is a movie and liberties could be taken. There are a lot of different things you can do with chocolate that a layman, like some random parent who isn't a confectioner, would call mixing like conching and tempering.
If we were to take what Wonka says at face value, could he be using the rocks behind and under the waterfall to conch his chocolate? Or maybe he's using the that aeration process to cool the chocolate to a degree and maintain its temper?
I think this deserves a follow-up video because ever since I was a kid this scene has FASCINATED me and deserves the full attack.
I just want an explanation in response to a comment here. Why does the boat that picks them use have exact number of seats?
I love how he had to present the movie to avoid a copyright strike
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Chocolate syrup doesn’t have to be hot to be liquid. I’m sure wonka could come up with a chocolate mixture for his river that wouldn’t have to be hotter than human skin can comfortably take. Especially if normal chocolate is only 15 degrees off of what a hot tub would be
Chocolate melts in contact with the skin. Of course you can have a flowing choco river at an actually pleasant temp. 🤔
Actually, being immersed in a liquid of your own body temp is very uncomfortable.
@@Leongon food theory had an episode on M&Ms, sugary substances don't melt in your hands, they dissolve in your sweat
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Like the chocolate syrup that comes in bottles that you put in milk.
New theory idea: Is it possible to eat so many skittles that your "waste" is rainbow colored? If so, how many?
Matpat will always continue to amaze me
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Another reason why Wonka's factory wouldn't need to produce as much chocolate as Hershey's is because while Wonka DOES specialize in chocolate, his company also produces a lot of other popular candies that are not chocolate related, while you will struggle to find a popular Hershey's product that doesn't contain chocolate other than maybe twizzlers, jolly ranchers, and a couple different kinds of gum. That just solidifies the fact that the amount of chocolate that Wonka's factory produces is *definitely* enough to meet current demands. Good job to whatever scriptwriter wrote the amount of chocolate he makes. It may have not been intentional, but you were fairly accurate.
11:30 I actually remember when Hersheys made a version of their bars with bubbles! Seriously one of the best Hershey chocolates I had. Though, the last time I ate one was 2015, so my opinion may have changed.
In Canada we have a bubbly bar called “Areo”, you can get it in many different flavours, Tis a very good chocolate bars, especially the mint flavoured ones
That's cool but... Hersheys ist really not good. Try some European chocolate when you have the chance.
@@robertb.7772 noted. Thanks
@@melissawilliams0422 was about to say
Plus selling air just makes good business sense.
The air in the chocolate could still be some sort of secret ingredient because all we know is that the chocolate goes up the pipes into different rooms. What if some of wonkas bars need to have some air in them? In the other rooms where the air is not needed he could do things like you said or other innovative ideas to get the air out.
he goes over the first part at the end of the video
also wtf is with these bot comments everywhere
3:35 He said eat, not drink
I disagree, the Johnny Depp Charlie and the chocolate factory is the better one. Willy Wonka has to be awkward he's been locked up for so many years
Agreed I don't know why matpat used that star shine clip as a way to critique the movie, that line was supposed to be akward
Yeah I Johnny Depp came up with the line himself because it suited the character
I guess that the talking sentient beings he has working for him by the hundreds doesn't count as having folks to talk to or give reason to work on your social skills o3o
@@luckystar9279 They really don’t. They don’t speak most of the time. Most if not all of their spoken lines are in song.
@@luckystar9279 you're right, he does speak like an oompa loompa
There is different kinds of chocolate that melt at different points that we would still call pure chocolate. It depends on what it has mixed in with it.
His looks like milk chocolate, so it’s not like he’d have the burden of a dark chocolate river.
Mat Pat forgot that when the chocolate has bubbles in it, the chocolate Is still a liquid
Assuming the "chocolate" fountain on the set was fully functional, the set designers would have known the exact throughput, so the 10k number might have actually been the real amount used.
About a week ago, 2 people fell into and got stuck in the chocolate tank at a Mars candy factory in Pennsylvania. They had a fire department/ police rescue team there, with live news coverage from the factory. I died laughing and said it was a real life Willy Wonka movie!🤣🤣 Then Mat Pat makes this video... this is funny AF
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I was actually just thinking that too! I even said it was a real-life Willy Wonka myself! 😆
Ok Matt Patt I need a film theory proving which chocolate factory movie is better. As someone who has read the book, the jonnhy depp versions is a lot more accurate, there are a lot of scenes in the originl movie that either don't make sense or completely changed the way the characters are portraited. The main one being charlie and his grandpa drinking that fuzzy drink that makes them float, which there isn't any of that in the books, and the whole secret recipe that that weird guy was trying to get, that wasn't in the book either. The whole reason Wonka choses charlie is beause he was the only one that obeys the rules, "Don't drink from the chocolate river", "Don't eat the gum that is still in testing" "Don't touch the squirrels" "Don't go to the television transporter", making charlie also desobey one of his rules, completely ruins the character.
Here’s a food theory. If you shouldn’t have midnight snacks… why do the refrigerators have lights?
Because of the evening
for people who lack money for lights idk
@Ctrl_Alt_V just report them
Because some places have no daylight after 4pm during winter.
Go into your fridge in then daytime, open the door, and push the button that controls the light. Kinda hard to see in there, isn't it? I mean it's a big box, you kinda need a light to see in it, no?!
4:49 So floating in the "Dead" Sea feels like "someone" is holding you up, eh?
Strange
1:50 that's not CGI, it was actually a practical effect. You can see that in the behind the scenes.
10:12 when Mat said "lagging behind" the video actually started loading (showed the spining sircle) and it took me a second to recognise that it wasn't a joke but that my internet was lagging
2:54 good singing my man 👍👍
1:45 to be clear: the johnny depp remake of willy wonka is far more faithful to the original roald dahl book
that does not mean it is a better film (i would much rather watch the original one), but it shares more with the book than the gene wilder version
Actually the chocolate waterfall in Charlie and the chocolate factory wasn’t CGI. There was some behind the scenes footage of getting the waterfall up and running. Same for the river.
Actually, the temperature at which chocolate will melt, largely depends on its wax content. There's a really good reason many European chocolates melt at a lower temperature than American chocolate, it has a much lower wax content
Also my dad told me about Desert Chocolate from his Marine days. So much wax that it wouldn't melt exposed to 110+ weather, and you could chew it for an hour. Plus side, it held it's flavor over that time so eh.
Here in Australia chocolate tastes different as they use a different recipe to keep it from melting at room temperature
Im from Poland, and i was like ,,What? It does not melt at room temperature? I have too keep my chocolate in a dark and cold place so it doesn't melt! "
Wa... Well that makes more sense... The chocolate I'm used to doesn't even contain wax. And here I was wondering why Matt thought the chocolate had to be extra scalding.
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9:00 "...it looks to fall somewhere in that range..."
7:30 Yes Mat, the Tim Burton is better. Not only is it faithful to the books (approved by the author's family) but also much more imaginative than the OG movie to the point that even the added scenes were approved by the author..
Amazing theory as usual. Keep up the good work
Fun fact: non of the songs from the original movie aren't the same songs from the original book but the remake actually is more accurate to the book itself
THE 2005 VERSION DID NOT USE ONLY CGI CHOCOLATE!!! Seriously!!! I would have expected MatPat to do enough research to know that most of the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie was not CGI, as Tim Burton wanted something real for child actors to interact with. Sure, some of the chocolate was CGI, such as when Augustus Gloop was sucked into the tube, but there was a real chocolate waterfall on set. In fact, they actually build that entire room exactly as it looks. The chocolate was made of a mix of water, real chocolate, brown paint, and some thickening liquid to make it look more like chocolate. The room was so realistic that the actors had to constantly ask the set designers which things were safe to eat, because it was made with a mix of real candy and inedible materials. They even had a small patch of candy grass for Augustus to eat at on point.
Also, the inventing room was made by the set designers going to a junkyard and getting random futuristic-looking stuff and then cobbling it together so it looked cool. The squirrel room scenes were filmed with a mix of CGI squirrels, animatronic squirrels, and 40 real life squirrels that were trained over the course of at least 6 months to grab and crack the nuts, and to run over and tackle the stunt double who was playing Veruca. The puppet show at the entrance of the factory was a real construction. Half of the puppets were made of flammable/meltable material (I don't remember if they used actual candy or not), and after 2 weeks of filming with that thing the crew was excited to destroy it since the song was so annoying. While it was not made of real candy, the candy boat was an actual boat that was attached to a rig so it could be moved around. Tim would move a tiny model boat that would control the actual one, and the river around the actors was added later.
I can confirm all of this as correct-except for the pink boat, that was not candy.
@@coatsorkeys Thanks! I'll clarify that.
You could also tell that many scenes do look like they're seperate especially with how the background is.
fun fact, to the best of my knowledge, the Johnny Dep chocolate river actually was chocolate, but it was a special chocolate custard made by the British Custard company, Ambrosia. Apparently Mr Dep was very clear that he wanted to be able to actually consume the chocolate
In the 2005 version, why did Wonka have set up songs when all the children were in danger? He didn’t actively discourage them, he almost encouraged them. Did he want them to die?
There is a flaw in their conclusion on the chocolate waterfall. At 8:52 he says if we want a waterfall like the one we see in the movie. The flaw is that the one we see in the movie is what the waterfall would look like as chocolate water and not liquid chocolate. It's flow rate and how it mixes the chocolate is then being assumed off incorrect data. They should have looked into what the optimal flow rate that would be needed for mixing chocolate in this manner. Without having this data all we are left with is that the waterfall flow rate is being based off a video of the waterfall that is from a movie from the late 60's/early 70's where they were definitely not trying to be as close to realistic and just needed to make it be close enough for their chocolate waterfall. And then that is being used as the basis for how we are expecting the chocolate waterfall to be mixed.
i’m pretty sure the river in the 2005 Burton version wasn’t CGI in some parts because BTS footage shows augustus’ actor swimming in chocolate
One bit of commentary on the original Willy Wonka movie, ignoring the fact that it was just brown water with no actual added viscosity during filming, Wonka overengineered basically everything, so down the tubej, as the chocolate was being turned into bars and similar products, I'd imagine there's an air-removal phase of the operation, considering Wonka Bars were canonically the most popular chocolate bars around the world, meaning that yeah, he might be mixing air into the chocolate river, but they never said he LEFT the air in there. Also, another point on how he was supplying enough chocolate to meet the world's demand for it, his factory didn't ONLY produce chocolate, but other candies as well; jawbreakers / gobstoppers (same candy, different name by country), gumballs, sticks of gum, mints, suckers / lollipops, candy canes, gummies... In other words, his customers don't JUST eat chocolate, so for the time, he was not only meeting his customers' demands, but probably exceeding demand as not all of his customers were buying exclusively chocolate. A company like Hershey's? All they do is chocolate, so naturally, their customers will demand more of it from them.
chocolate is able to melt at 40c, a safe temperature: it also melts while in your pockets, at body temperature.
Maybe, but that is more of a sludge rather than a liquid. If you want chocolate to behave more like water, you gotta heat it up to not-so-safe temperatures.
@@DavidRichardson153 true
Body temperatures are around 37.5 to 40 Celsius, With your pocket insulating that, It’s Surprisingly plausible.
@@DavidRichardson153 still, ever had a chocolate egg in your pocket? I think that the consistency of it is at least less than the 1000x viscosity. Probably somewhere around honey. Also, you have to remember that in your pocket it's probably below your 40c body temperature, as insulation is not perfect. I'd say 40c chocolate is swimmable.
@@Echinacae That may be swimmable, but there is one potential problem that you are overlooking, one that could prove quite glaring if the circumstances line up, like they did for me once. It is something that is indispensable for anything, especially with swimming:
Breathing.
Because you used the comparison yourself - not a bad choice, mind you - I will use it here too. Have you ever had honey stuck in your throat? How about a sizable helping of it, enough to choke on? I have had the rather frightening experience once, and it is not something that you would feel like waiting to see if your body temperature will melt it enough to dislodge it.
Technically, you might not drown in chocolate...but you can suffocate from it.
2:00 My first thought was not necessarily because if you leave a hershey bar in your car then open it to lick the wrapper you dont get burned. it's 100% a weirder taste with the different texture, but also you can melt a chocolate bar by just holding it to long. But, if you melt chips in a double boiler you *will* be burned. Guess it just depends on how it's melted and what temperature it's maintained at.
Question:
Wouldn't the suction tubes (like the one Augustus Gloop got stuck in) degas the chocolate? Would that help? Or are you likely to get oxidation from the mix of heat and air, and that oxidation does it in before the degassing?
"My chocolate is never supposed to be touched by human hands"
Me: looks at hand
Also me: Does your mouth count?
It's chocolate water
Once Wonka sells the chocolate, it's no longer his. Of course once it's yours, you can touch it with your hands if you want. I, personally, normally eat it out of the wrapper to keep my hands clean. So actually my chocolate isn't touched by human hands either.
IVE BEEN SAVING THIS THEORY FOR WHEN YOU GUYS UPLOAD!! Could you guys possibly do a video about Senku-Cola from Dr Stone and make you're own. In the anime they make cola by mixing cilantro lime and carbonated water and thats it I think and I wanted to know if that's all it actually takes.
It is
@@DeificAura well im pretty sure is but I just wanna see Matpat and stephs reaction
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3:58 Justice for Augustus. It was right there 🤦