30 years before Lucy Letby: The man who brought original 'Angel of Death' killer nurse to justice

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  • 'I brought the original "Angel of Death" killer nurse to justice' | Exclusive interview with Stuart Clifton the detective who investigated Beverley Allitt, 30+ years before Lucy Letby.
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  • @keithrock939
    @keithrock939 11 місяців тому +299

    The person from management who said no to investigating letby after the first murder, needs to be in court

    • @jummalinio2610
      @jummalinio2610 11 місяців тому +53

      the whole of the management team that were in charge should be involved this wasn't just a single person trying to cover it up

    • @lisar655
      @lisar655 11 місяців тому

      Nhs cover ups becoming far too common. Fiddling records and delaying autopsies to hide information.

    • @irenedavo3768
      @irenedavo3768 11 місяців тому +4

      These Babies were tiny? 500 gram

    • @TomAllenUK
      @TomAllenUK 11 місяців тому +4

      *in prison

    • @sanjanewmoonlife
      @sanjanewmoonlife 11 місяців тому +4

      Government fault because is rules that you can't accuse Doctor

  • @lisalupin1202
    @lisalupin1202 11 місяців тому +94

    Stop calling these people angels of death. They’re just serial killers. Beverly, Harold, Lucy and all the others across the world. Serial killers not angels of death.

    • @newshound2521
      @newshound2521 11 місяців тому +8

      they're "angels" FOR death. Mengele was the original Angel of Death. Def not calling him an angel.

    • @wolfxx1155
      @wolfxx1155 11 місяців тому +11

      I agree with you. The term 'angel' 6 the perception of positivity in the minds of the general public. like their romanticizing these criminals as something godly and unattainable.

    • @JR-fe2xw
      @JR-fe2xw 11 місяців тому +5

      I don’t think they intend to romanticize at all. "The angel part is because she posed as a nurse and did it from the position of a responsible medical person who's supposed to be looking after these children. So instead of angel of mercy, she was an angel of death". Dr. David Holmes (Forensic Profiler).

    • @newworldastrology1102
      @newworldastrology1102 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes, demons not angels.

    • @lesley9989
      @lesley9989 8 місяців тому

      ​@@JR-fe2xwI love Dr Holmes

  • @shadowguard3578
    @shadowguard3578 11 місяців тому +140

    The hospital management in the Letby case who were warned about Letby but did nothing until after 7 babies had died, should be made to publicly apologise to the victims’ families and publicly apologise to the doctors who were made to apologize to Lucy Letby.

    • @jummalinio2610
      @jummalinio2610 11 місяців тому

      @@PGHEngineer No the external investigations recommended that the police be called in and their reccomendations weren't followed ... I know you tory voter baby killer

    • @shadowguard3578
      @shadowguard3578 11 місяців тому

      @@PGHEngineer I’m not sure which two external investigations you are referring to though they could be the ones the BBC is referring to. If you have the time look at an article from the BBC website. It’s called ‘Lucy Letby: Hospital bosses were misled, former chair claims’. ‘The former chairman of the NHS trust where serial killer Lucy Letby worked believes the board was “misled” by hospital executives.’
      From the BBC website:
      ‘The [hospital] trust initially turned to the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, who conducted a review of the unit but told the hospital executives they should conduct a separate “thorough external independent review of each unexpected neonatal death”.
      Ian Harvey, who was then medical director at the hospital, contacted London-based neonatologist Dr Jane Hawdon. The doctor, who specialises in the care of newborns, did a brief review of each baby's medical notes.
      However she told the trust she did not have the time to conduct the thorough investigation the Royal College had recommended.
      It is understood Dr Hawdon did not speak directly to the board but sent her report and it was up to executives to brief the board on its findings.’
      Sir Ian Duncan said:
      ‘“We were told explicitly that there was no criminal activity pointing to any one individual, when in truth the investigating neonatologist had stated that she had not had the time to complete the necessary in-depth case reviews.”’
      On the face of it these two reports were not thorough investigations. A thorough investigation might have included a timeline of births, health of the babies, deaths, who was on duty, and autopsy results.

    • @csharpe5787
      @csharpe5787 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@PGHEngineernonsense

    • @syjiang
      @syjiang 11 місяців тому +13

      @@PGHEngineer That is a serious misrepresentation. The two external reviews was very limited in scope and was invited in by the medical director to explicitly avoid bringing police in. The Royal college of pediatrician was given limited access and was asked to focus on the general operation of the unit rather than the specific deaths. The second reviewer explicit said she was unable to review the case file in detail due to workload and time constraints but could do a general review of the operations. Both external reviews highlighted that the series of deaths was of concern and required further forensic examinations, a recommendation that the medical director Ian Harvey failed to convey to the hospital board and rather just blamed the deaths on failure in the clinical staff and other units of the NHS. The coward Ian Harvey has now sold his house and ran away overseas.

    • @Bonbon-C
      @Bonbon-C 11 місяців тому +13

      No! Apology is not enough.... they are just culpable as the killer, Letby, as they allowed it. They should receive prison time too!

  • @carolynnilsen9270
    @carolynnilsen9270 11 місяців тому +102

    I left nursing 7 yrs before retirement age as I was burnt out after a 40 year career. I made a promise to myself that if èver I felt I could not give it 100% I would leave.

    • @LadyDiamondIsHereNow
      @LadyDiamondIsHereNow 11 місяців тому +13

      Some are never wired 100 per cent to give in the first place. This isn't compassion fatigue

    • @johnshooter4763
      @johnshooter4763 11 місяців тому +11

      Lucy Poppins childhood needs investigated!

    • @AmandaBurgess-hd6mb
      @AmandaBurgess-hd6mb 11 місяців тому +10

      As retired nurse/ midwife totally understand how you feel. I retired when I was 56 following 2 breakdowns, I knew that I was unable to give my patients the care that they deserved because they deserve the best care you can give especially at times when they are extremely vulnerable. Its called being self aware, something this horrid woman is completely lacking.

    • @johnshooter4763
      @johnshooter4763 11 місяців тому

      @@AmandaBurgess-hd6mb
      Do you think your mates in the Royal in Belfast were in the wrong for calling me a somewhat mentally retarded boy back in 1989?
      i.imgur.com/obCOGvt.jpg
      Same NHS who hired serial killers Beverly Allitt and Lucy Letby!

    • @melliecrann-gaoth4789
      @melliecrann-gaoth4789 11 місяців тому +2

      @HadriansGallyes this had nothing to do with burn out.
      It was calculated and premeditated as the judge described. Imagine the stress and trauma her former co workers are now experiencing

  • @debrakleid5752
    @debrakleid5752 11 місяців тому +31

    I’m not British and even I saw the similarities. Unbelievable that the management didn’t want to call the police. Protect the babies at all cost

  • @ellaeadig263
    @ellaeadig263 11 місяців тому +39

    There's a true crime UA-camr that did a video on Beverley Allitt, and there is a comment there by a person who was cared by Beverley as an infant. Their grandmother had a bad feeling and knew something wasn't right about her (as this person's mother was naturally recovering from childbirth so not able to notice everything happening) and the grandmother made sure the baby was never alone with Beverley. It's chilling to think this person may have been another of her victims.

  • @Bebedollie
    @Bebedollie 11 місяців тому +80

    Never judge a book by its cover. You never know what dark twisted secrets people are hiding

    • @stevo7220
      @stevo7220 11 місяців тому +6

      Her eyes look a lil crazy

  • @philipmulville8218
    @philipmulville8218 11 місяців тому +82

    Many thanks to Detective Stuart Clifton for his many insights in this interview.

  • @nickisnyder3450
    @nickisnyder3450 11 місяців тому +59

    I think that because Lucy is a psychopath who cannot feel emotions, she was fascinated by the high level of emotions that her murders elicited in all the people she affected. She was drawn to watching other people experience what she could not feel.

    • @snipperacoustics
      @snipperacoustics 11 місяців тому

      Probably the best comment I've read so far for Lucy Letby's case!

    • @joshdance9959
      @joshdance9959 11 місяців тому

      Well said.

    • @francishooper9548
      @francishooper9548 11 місяців тому +6

      She is clearly not a psychopath. She had normal relationships with family, friends and work colleagues.

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 11 місяців тому +23

    He hits on an important point: the nurse is often the one who is documenting care of the patients which means they can tailor the record for their own benefit.

    • @charmaine725
      @charmaine725 11 місяців тому

      The Government makes decisions affecting our lives with no comeback either.

  • @1spiders1
    @1spiders1 11 місяців тому +38

    Lucy said the same thing that the plumbing wasn’t working, this is the guy who they should have brought in to investigate lucy , what a gem

    • @amo2464
      @amo2464 11 місяців тому +7

      I don't understand this plumbing excuse. How does it explain insulin poisoning?

    • @lisar655
      @lisar655 11 місяців тому +4

      I haven’t heard about this plumbing thing. Can you elaborate?

    • @1spiders1
      @1spiders1 11 місяців тому +7

      @@lisar655 when Lucy Letby was questioned as to why they were soo many collapses and deaths of babies in this particular neonatal unit, she responded by attributing these increases due to ‘unsafe environment’ faulty plumbing, raw sewage overflowing outa sinks, staff couldn’t wash their hands etc. This same thing the 1990 serial killer Beverley Alitte said to police investigators.

    • @1spiders1
      @1spiders1 11 місяців тому +11

      There was a couple of times when sewage and human waste did overflow in the nursery, ( yeah I know fkn disgusting but thats the nhs for you ) however this doesn't explain how babies stomachs and throats were injured with instruments, how air ended up in their stomach and inside their blood vessels, how insulin was in their system and she had access to the locked fridge, how blunt force liver injury occurred in one child. The 3 triplets born premature were soo rare a birth that it was a 1 in 200 million pregnancy, these triplet brothers shared the same placenta and were identical, they were born one minute apart, the youngest being 3 minutes younger, Lucy letby killed two of the three in under 48hrs and she was going to kill the third but he was removed from the ward after the father pleaded with the hospital, that baby lives. IA

    • @alisonhall4465
      @alisonhall4465 11 місяців тому +2

      This may be significant in that management should have shut down the unit while this was going on . In my ( extensive ) experience , they try to keep beds open no matter what , even in the face of clinical opposition. I am certain there is a lot more regarding management that hasn’t come out yet . I think Letby knew too much .

  • @BL-no7jp
    @BL-no7jp 11 місяців тому +35

    The way health care deteriorated since it changed from non profit to a for profit business since 1973, with advances in technology, greed has swallowed the integrity of the care from the health care industry. Some hospitals and LTC’s are death traps for some patients. If hospitals can place patients on cameras, the same needs to be done at nurse’s stations and med rooms. The grading scale nursing schools was lowered 5 points over the years. Many facilities have a sloppy vetting system of its providers. This needs to change. I’m glad I’m retired from health care. The last time I was in in patient, it almost cost my life. The fact is, I’d been better off staying home instead.

    • @mandychadwick8762
      @mandychadwick8762 11 місяців тому +6

      Bless you. I totally agree with all you say ❤

    • @lisar655
      @lisar655 11 місяців тому +9

      You’re completely right. Your family and yourself will care more about your health and well-being. Some nurses are cold, unfeeling and cruel. My Dad started refusing to go into hospital due to horrible experiences. We cared for him at home towards the end of his life

    • @BL-no7jp
      @BL-no7jp 11 місяців тому

      @@lisar655 My father was kept home until he passed away from Alzheimer’s. He seemed more content and alert than those who are confined in long term care. I found that eating right, taking supplements has kept me away from acute care. I swear, the RN’s on my floor when I was hospitalized were not quite as skilled as the CNA’s who worked my shift including traveling jobs on the side. Sadly, too many nurses today are weak, unprofessional and disconnected with their patients in supervisory roles. It’s getting damn scary too. I can now perfectly understand why some of my friends take their health care matters to Mexico. Our local hospital got rid of their seasoned experienced nurses and replaced them with inexperienced new grads. These hospital CEO’s didn’t care who lived or died from this crisis they created. Infections spiked and did the deaths. Drastic cuts were made in house keeping too.

  • @brigidsingleton1596
    @brigidsingleton1596 11 місяців тому +63

    I will never forget the name of
    Beverly Allut .. (even if I misspelt her name). That case was so shocking, and to me, maybe because I was pregnant wuth twins in 1991 and they were born
    16th January 1992.. Sadly, they both died the same day. Philip lived 6 hours, and Marianne lived 12 hours. In my twibs case, the causes of deaths were natural they were 4 weeks premature and their lungs were insufficiently developed,, plus Philip also had pneumonia so, as awful that was, at least their deaths had not been anyone's fault... Those years will stay with me forever...
    My heart goes out to any parent who loses a baby or babies
    (or children from any cause) but, to lose their babies (and children) to murderers can only be the most devastating of any losses.
    Rest In Peace, Little Ones❤❤ ❤
    My heartfelt condolences to all who have lost their babies (and children)
    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @trollsnotwelcome7805
      @trollsnotwelcome7805 11 місяців тому +14

      I'm so very sorry for your loss 😢 sending love 💖

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 11 місяців тому +9

      @@trollsnotwelcome7805
      Thank you so much, how kind. Lots of love "back at you" for your lovely response.🌷❤️❤️🌷

    • @SiniBlu
      @SiniBlu 11 місяців тому +7

      my deepest condolences to you for the loss of your precious babies, Brigid. 👼🕊️🤍

    • @moonshadow3946
      @moonshadow3946 11 місяців тому +6

      I'm so very sorry for your loss of your beautiful babies. Sending you lots of love and big Hugs. I will keep you and your babies in my thoughts and in my prayers, if that is alright with you dear lady.
      ❤💐⭐🌹🙏

    • @horrorfanandy4647
      @horrorfanandy4647 11 місяців тому +7

      My sincere condolences, I can’t even begin to imagine how traumatic and distressing that must have been for you. Much love to you.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 11 місяців тому +50

    Who hasn't used the UK health service system and not encountered at least someone who thinks that they are a law unto themselves, sure these killers are quite a few steps up from that personality disorder but it all starts with arrogance.

    • @Malayalikada
      @Malayalikada 11 місяців тому +17

      Absolutely spot on ...They are quite arrogant .Always thought so when encountering them

    • @racheldemain1940
      @racheldemain1940 11 місяців тому +4

      No i haven't met anyone like that, they have all been wonderful with their intention only being to help me.

    • @lisar655
      @lisar655 11 місяців тому

      Trust me there are evil nurses. They were giving my father a different patient’s meds and trying to inject him with insulin. She also tried to force him to sign a do not resuscitate form without a doctor present. She threw towels at him and shouted at him. There are some nurses that should be removed immediately

    • @sallygarrington301
      @sallygarrington301 11 місяців тому

      I have been a Nurse for 40 years and there are a lot of awful people in healthcare . There is a lot of insidious bullying., designed to make another look bad. Patients get caught in the crossfire.

    • @CW1971
      @CW1971 11 місяців тому +9

      The majority are fine but I've come across some real ar$eholes including nurses drs and paramedics. Some gave real cause for concern. I was a nurse for 25 years and saw some crazy things. I reported a few of them including one that ended up in crown court, it was tried 3 times due to mistrials and jury issues, I ended up with PTSD and retired from nursing at 46

  • @undercoverbrother67
    @undercoverbrother67 11 місяців тому +47

    I broke down sobbing watching this like I haven't done in years. The noises I just heard coming from myself were scaring even me. It was a visceral reaction. Some emotions are beyond words.

    • @irenedavo3768
      @irenedavo3768 11 місяців тому +7

      These babies were one pound in weight?

    • @Mira-gu6we
      @Mira-gu6we 11 місяців тому +7

      Very very scary. Im just cringing. This stuff is too sickening.

  • @Gina19876
    @Gina19876 11 місяців тому +13

    Every single death should require a full autopsy.

  • @kimclarke5018
    @kimclarke5018 11 місяців тому +14

    Noticing the the Brits call events “collapse”, we call them “codes” in North America. Either way for her to inject air, milk into an iv line is pure evil.

  • @Swampzoid
    @Swampzoid 11 місяців тому +6

    Child killers are the worse kind of psychopaths

  • @MisterB7917
    @MisterB7917 11 місяців тому +4

    The Lucy Letby baby killer case in the UK made me think of an Ian Fleming quote: "Mr. Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: once is happenstance, twice is a coincidence, and third time, it's enemy action."

  • @unrealeck
    @unrealeck 11 місяців тому +12

    The busier the NHS is too, the less and less likely things like this will be picked up on.

  • @Bebedollie
    @Bebedollie 11 місяців тому +13

    Not being rude but after at least the first 3 or 4 babies just about dying surely u would suspect the nurse thats always there in the room with the baby . Come on now. If i was working in situations like that I'd be suspicious as and watching her like a hawk . Surely ur intuition would kick in

  • @lindahouston5635
    @lindahouston5635 11 місяців тому +14

    Sometimes I think they want to cause a catastrophic crash so they can then rescue the patient. They want to be seen as 'super nurse' playing the hero. But that might not be the case with Lucy. Either way it's monstrous.

  • @racheldemain1940
    @racheldemain1940 11 місяців тому +17

    More stringent checks on People who go into the Medical profession , not just CBR , but psychiatric reports as she wasn't flagged up as being a concern and then killed those Babies. There didn't seem anything to pin her change of attitude on, Harold was a strange child and had an addiction problem but again heads turned the other way.

  • @beatpirate8
    @beatpirate8 11 місяців тому +41

    competency checks and mental
    health checks please. im a nurse and im
    appalled. i dont want these cases to taint our profession. it is a privilege and honor
    to be trusted and a health provider. i dont take it lightly. i have seen burn out or aging and forgetfulness. i think we have to be honest with ourselves if we can no longer do bedside work. please leave. dont dishonor our profession. this woman must go to jail. it is murder. i feel so awful all these families suffered loss and so many lost infants before the Doctors sounded the alarm because the admin did not do anything.

    • @ayoadebowale3291
      @ayoadebowale3291 11 місяців тому +2

      This case is an outlier. Most nurses are diligent and caring professionals. It just so sad that this can happen to babies. So sad for them and their families.

    • @andrewjackman2251
      @andrewjackman2251 11 місяців тому

      was not a mental health issue , it was a severe case of evil , that al first no one can understand

    • @PamelaSofia444
      @PamelaSofia444 11 місяців тому +1

      Sadly, I think the public perception of the nursing profession will never recover from this. If they had done mental health checks on letby they wouldn't have found anything. She didn't fit any psychological profile of a murderer. This is what is is most horrifying and hard to get your head round. I do think there should be cameras on wards though

    • @tungamwangakala3851
      @tungamwangakala3851 11 місяців тому +1

      If possible, spiritual check!

  • @SajSajidmk
    @SajSajidmk 11 місяців тому +4

    Hospital 🏥 management Must be Prosecuted

  • @messrsandersonco5985
    @messrsandersonco5985 11 місяців тому +8

    I see two possibilities. One is the hero complex (e.g firefighters saving people when they actually started the fire), the other is sadism. Letby is a sadist. She gets pleasure from other people's pain. This is aka torture, and the main reason psychologist David Wilson puts torturers at the top of the psychopathy scale: these are the MOST dangerous perpetrators and are not capable of rehabilitation - unredeemable.

  • @moonshadow3946
    @moonshadow3946 11 місяців тому +5

    Thank You Sir, and Thank You to your team, for bringing this 'Monster' to Justice.⭐👏🌹

  • @gemmaholley6017
    @gemmaholley6017 11 місяців тому +5

    My personal opinion from the court podcasts it's no coincidence she targeted Married and Happy couples including a Doctors child that she killed she targeted couples who struggled to concive and using IVF I didn't hear any single parents correct me if I am wrong, Given that she was infatuated with a Married Doctor I see a twisted motive hatred and pure jealousy I don't think she was happy single at all as she claimed to these parents and probably a element of if she's going down she's going to ruin his reputation with it that's just how I see it. I get annoyed with people saying she doesn't look like a serial killer or she doesn't fit the profile most are actually Married family men with kids they are still perfectly normal to those around them not all serial killers are loners as this "expert" so said on the news.

  • @natasharaymond8958
    @natasharaymond8958 11 місяців тому +12

    The first time insulin was given when not necessary she should have been struck off

    • @manzanitakatznellenbogen2870
      @manzanitakatznellenbogen2870 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm pretty sure in the UK is classed as a never event and is reportable to the NMC. At the very least this warranted action from the ward management

  • @paulineyoung4260
    @paulineyoung4260 11 місяців тому +22

    LETBY had to be in charge, in power.

    • @rozdoyle8872
      @rozdoyle8872 11 місяців тому +4

      Yes , rather like a parent or spouse who gains power when their child or partner is I'll. They use it to prove to those around them that they are very strong , very dangerous behavior.

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 11 місяців тому

      It's time for society and the law to be in charge and in power now, I say wrap up any loose ends, study her to find out why she did the things she did to learn maybe some preventative measures and then execute her. Bring back capital punishment.

  • @TheSmokinducks
    @TheSmokinducks 11 місяців тому +4

    The difference between the Allit and Letby cases is 'admission babies` with no expectation of death, and 'prem babies' who were already in intensive care, so it seems to me the motives may have been slightly different as well.

  • @seankingwell3692
    @seankingwell3692 11 місяців тому +5

    Way too many people like her working in Canadian Ontario health care.

  • @-Reagan
    @-Reagan 11 місяців тому +18

    Lucy Letby should be Beverly Allitt’s nurse when she gets old or infirm or vice versa.
    I wouldn’t object if they threw Lucy Letby in with Beverly Allitt and told them the winner was the best and let them fight to the death over the attention from winning.

    • @kb4432
      @kb4432 11 місяців тому +2

      One thing's for sure. They will definitely see each other in Hell and share the same punishment. The only interaction between them will be hating and cursing one another.

  • @karolinejohnson6218
    @karolinejohnson6218 11 місяців тому +3

    Was she a copy cat killer ? Is what springs to mind . "Like she had read the book " he said .

  • @windowman929
    @windowman929 11 місяців тому +12

    Munchausen by proxy, I believe it's called.

    • @BoringDad1272
      @BoringDad1272 11 місяців тому +4

      By proxy means you do it to a family member. In this case, she was not related to them. And Mauchausen by proxy does not implicate the goal of killing.

    • @jjsita3879
      @jjsita3879 11 місяців тому +4

      Stop excusing this behaviour. It’s called ‘evil’. Nothing else

    • @tinajefferies5682
      @tinajefferies5682 11 місяців тому +4

      She didn’t have children of her own. Munchausen by proxy refers to the caregiver, not just the parent.

  • @vordman
    @vordman 11 місяців тому +7

    Oh yes, the Beverly Allit case. No doubt as she was carted off to prison some authoritive goon would have voiced the immortal words: "lessons will be learnt". Er...

    • @mrman8388
      @mrman8388 10 місяців тому

      Why no mention of her race. Racist

  • @ferraridinoman
    @ferraridinoman 11 місяців тому +9

    Smart guy!

  • @mobious888
    @mobious888 11 місяців тому +2

    As a lessons learned, every single unexpected baby death should have a post portum or very through investigation involving police. Otherwise these things could be happening right now and no one would know!

    • @francishooper9548
      @francishooper9548 11 місяців тому

      In the Letby case 6 of the 7 deaths she was charged with had post mortum and all were ruled as natural deaths.

  • @PeterHarveyUK
    @PeterHarveyUK 11 місяців тому +2

    INSTALL CCTV CAMERAS IN NEONATAL WARDS AS A MATTER OF STANDARD POLICY?
    It increasingly looks as if there will be a full statutory enquiry into hospital management in the Lucy Letby case. If so, it will take a long time to reach any conclusions, never mind implementing any recommendations. In the meantime, it seems to me that for everyone's sake, not least the nursing staff themselves, CCTV should be installed throughout neonatal care units. There would have been much less argument between the consultants and the management if CCTV footage had been available, Furthermore, the very presence of such cameras would probably reduce the incidence of questionable care practices. Nobody likes to be watched at work, but people are getting used to CCTV in workplaces where there is public access. And police officers are required to wear shoulder cameras.

  • @user-zn4rm4ch6q
    @user-zn4rm4ch6q 11 місяців тому

    Awesome investigator. I concur

  • @tracydaye6059
    @tracydaye6059 11 місяців тому +2

    I knew there was another nurse years ago couldn’t think of her name …. Thank you it was driving me nuts 😂😂😂

  • @SageWhite-Rose
    @SageWhite-Rose Місяць тому

    It's so sickening how Alit's victims didn't get justice. Living out her life in comfort and partial freedom is infuriating!

  • @Rebecca236
    @Rebecca236 10 місяців тому

    Why are people saying that Lucy’s conviction is a miscarriage of justice, but not Beverly Allitts?!

  • @we.are.all.barabbas
    @we.are.all.barabbas 11 місяців тому +1

    Never forget what they did to Amin Abdullah, a Malaysian nurse who was unfairly dismissed, struck off, got depressed after they took his livelihood from him, therefore he killed himself by setting himself on fire.
    The reason why he got struck off? Workplace gossip. He was only trying to defend his colleague.
    But that colleague didn't even stand up for him.
    It was unfair what they did to him!
    If Lucy Letby was a foreign nurse, she would have been struck off long before she killed more babies!
    They pass their judgment easily on you if you're a foreigner.
    Heck, they didn't even listen to the doctor who reported her. If the doctor was white British, they would've listened to him! But instead they forced him to apologize to her!
    It's sickening!

    • @janlittle2148
      @janlittle2148 10 місяців тому

      You need to get your facts straight. 7 doctors were concerned and colour had nothing to do with it.

  • @damienocallaghan3906
    @damienocallaghan3906 11 місяців тому +2

    One of the Babies was ONE DAY OLD.......
    ONE DAY.......smh

  • @beatpirate8
    @beatpirate8 11 місяців тому +4

    i dont understand. you can be a nurse and excellent for attention. you can do research if you dont like kids.

  • @nickisnyder3450
    @nickisnyder3450 11 місяців тому +7

    Lucy was a preemie herself, that's why she went into the field. I wonder if she wished someone had let her die. Did she have depression but not the nerve to kill herself, instead thought she was saving these babies from miserable lives.

    • @BlessedLPT.
      @BlessedLPT. 11 місяців тому

      Are we trying to justify her evil? Why is this always the case for white killers - they can kill an entire nation and we will say ‘possibly it’s coz of mental health…’ 🙄

  • @OleLeik
    @OleLeik 10 місяців тому

    Angel of Death usually refers to care givers who kill terminal patients that are in pain.While ethically troublesome, they have a tendency of believing that they were doing the right thing for their patients or relatives
    Murdering a bunch of relative healthy babies, and attemting to kill others and causing permanent damages to them in the process , really doesn’t fit.

  • @Aliya-gh2ec
    @Aliya-gh2ec 11 місяців тому +1

    Why is the interviewer shuffling papers. It's distracting and unprofessional.

  • @user-dr7pf4of5o
    @user-dr7pf4of5o 11 місяців тому +1

    hospital management too is to blame. they usually careless & ignorant. Lucy letby shloud be punished with same act she did : injected with air to her blood stream & insulin or any harmfull material..

  • @fordprefect8375
    @fordprefect8375 11 місяців тому

    Aren't nurses adored normally? I've always thought they do such a great job, and the responsibility!

  • @AnnaKhait7
    @AnnaKhait7 11 місяців тому +1

    Same demons… same conclusions

  • @SajSajidmk
    @SajSajidmk 11 місяців тому +1

    CCTV camera 📸 📸 📸 must be in hospital 🏥💊💉🏥💊🏥💊🏥

  • @yellowlynx
    @yellowlynx 9 місяців тому

    I know a lot of people have a kind of aversion or resistance to believe humans can be capable of such evil deeds. When people first heard about how millions of Jews were systematically killed in concentration camps by the Nazis back in the days of WWII, a lot of people refused to believe that happened initially - it is very different from Holocaust denial - because the evil was beyond imagination. The management saw an innocent face, and their emotions could not reconcile such clashes. That is why we need to be rational and not let our feelings affect the decision. The management made a gross mistake of deciding that Lucy Letby was innocent and she was being bullied, sided with her, rather than trying to find out the cause of the deaths of the babies.

  • @MrDominicharrison
    @MrDominicharrison 11 місяців тому +18

    So far none of the press coverage has spoken with the paediatric pathologists involved in Letby’s murders
    As an nhs consultant it is beyond me that there were repeated findings of intravascular air or vast amounts of insulin and the pathologist wasn’t directly in touch with the police
    It wud be the same pathologist too, there r VERY few paeds path drs around…when I last worked in London there was only ONE paeds pathologist for the whole city! And he was retired!!!

    • @LadyDiamondIsHereNow
      @LadyDiamondIsHereNow 11 місяців тому +8

      I left a comment on another video - my experience of working within caring -type professions is that usually those working within them have empathy, sometimes to a marked degree. However, there are a small percentage who fall into the other category and they cause problems, large or small. In the worst scenario, they actively harm others. This type of person gravitates to positions where they can take advantage of the vulnerable and where most of their colleagues are high in empathy and likely to see people as 'not that bad.' Whenever reporting perceived issues with such types (whether fellow staff members or clients), I observed that it was either a case that people wouldn't believe it or they were of the same ilk. Those of the same ilk will try to prevent the other sociopath or whatever flavour of Cluster B, being held accountable or be reluctant to do so

    • @MrDominicharrison
      @MrDominicharrison 11 місяців тому

      @@LadyDiamondIsHereNow sounds like u r referring to some kind of Freudian defence where the sadistic psychopath can hide in a healthcare role making others think ‘they must be a nice person coz they’re a nurse’
      I’ve known a few like this but none as evil or criminal as Letby of course

    • @MrDominicharrison
      @MrDominicharrison 11 місяців тому +4

      @HadriansGall exactly! Insulin, an obvious murder yet staff did jack sh£t about it

    • @francishooper9548
      @francishooper9548 11 місяців тому

      There were no paediatric pathologists involved - they might not have followed the party line..

  • @KimmyWood
    @KimmyWood 10 місяців тому

    The movie about Allitt...was excellent and no doubt Letby saw that

  • @brigidsingleton1596
    @brigidsingleton1596 11 місяців тому +4

    Beverly Alllit ?

    • @CrookedHalo-bx4oe
      @CrookedHalo-bx4oe 11 місяців тому +8

      Look her up what a menace she was

    • @melliecrann-gaoth4789
      @melliecrann-gaoth4789 11 місяців тому +1

      @@CrookedHalo-bx4oethe appalling reality is that you can simply give this answer to a random person on youtube and Senior Management in LL hospital took nothing from “lessons learned “ in the BA case.

  • @passionfruitprincess
    @passionfruitprincess 4 місяці тому

    This case should be overhauling best practice guidelines for these precious infants. Actions to keep vulnerable babies & children safe & protected. For instance, with children, there is ALWAYS two to check any medications given at the bedside so they're ID bracelets can be checked. Another example, here in Australia a doctor, when doing an epidural, accidently injected the chlorhexidine instead of normal saline to flush. Not sure how because chlorehex is pink, but sadly, that patients has been in a wheelchair ever since. So, now, we have clorohexidine lollipops to cleanse the back area. Much safer & can't be mixed up.

  • @snipperacoustics
    @snipperacoustics 11 місяців тому

    if you analyse and take seriously every death of a baby by thorough examination, then you stop any serial killer at its tracks! For me it is not the killer, it is the lack of an appropriate system to quickly highlight and bring to the surface malice behaviour in our hospitals.

  • @RebeccaJayne5x5
    @RebeccaJayne5x5 11 місяців тому +4

    They should be in the cell next to that monster Letby! That is my opinion, some may may think that is too harsh but think about all those babies who should now be at school! Rip little ones 👼

  • @fifibrownn9291
    @fifibrownn9291 11 місяців тому +2

    What’s the motive behind this

    • @cuteotter2165
      @cuteotter2165 11 місяців тому +1

      The general feel is that she did it to get the male Dr she was obsessed with on the ward.

    • @janlittle2148
      @janlittle2148 10 місяців тому

      ​@@cuteotter2165except that the killing began before he joined the hospital

  • @chrispict42
    @chrispict42 11 місяців тому +1

    @silkysmooth....Ridiculous!

  • @Dragon34th
    @Dragon34th 11 місяців тому +11

    Murder is murder, baby or adult victims, she's just a common serial murderer just like Harold Shipman etc... I condemn the internal failiure and the responsible persons should be punished for their idleness and bureaucratic pondering which something very common in hierarchical organisations. But also it's important to acknowledge that mental illness has been reigning in the hospital business because of the pressure, poor condition of work, anti social hours, wages, union issiues, the way the government neglects Drs and nurses etc. Remember during Covid, this government championed the NHS as national heros and promised to look after them but we're in 2023 and Covid is over yet, Drs and nurses wages and work conditions are still as bad as before Brexit, Boris, May and many others before. Therefore, you have to admit there are psychological answers why things like that could happen.

    • @cuteotter2165
      @cuteotter2165 11 місяців тому +1

      You can't compare Shipmam to Letby. Killing babies is worse than killing older people. That's just the way it is.

    • @chrispict42
      @chrispict42 11 місяців тому

      No. Its bad education and Project 2000. That's all.

    • @BlessedLPT.
      @BlessedLPT. 11 місяців тому

      No! Let’s stop justifying these evil crimes. Nothing justifies killing innocent babies with air or extra insulin. If one is burnt out, you may expect they get angry with colleagues or have a cry on shift or be founding napping in the toilet- not this.

  • @normankennith7919
    @normankennith7919 10 місяців тому

    what nurse recently has killed babies?

  • @SajSajidmk
    @SajSajidmk 11 місяців тому +1

    Devil 👿😈👿 of Death ☠️💀😈💀. Not 🚫 Angel of Death ☠️💀

  • @dalenegroenewald5853
    @dalenegroenewald5853 11 місяців тому +1

    No, I do not agree. She was not one to get all attention. Its something else. Sadist wit psychopathic tendensies etc.

  • @clareoconnor5648
    @clareoconnor5648 11 місяців тому

    She is indeed not guilty’

  • @daisymaisy4877
    @daisymaisy4877 11 місяців тому

    Old school copper❤

  • @tracymitchell9114
    @tracymitchell9114 11 місяців тому +2

    We need to bring back the death penalty for these creatures #bringbackthedeathpenalty

  • @CP-nl1uo
    @CP-nl1uo 10 місяців тому +2

    Unlike Beverley Lucy is feminine, even with childish stuff like toys...

  • @telephassarose3501
    @telephassarose3501 11 місяців тому +2

    They were both 22 - at the beginning . I think it’s too young, immature for the responsibility.

  • @edsalinas9996
    @edsalinas9996 11 місяців тому +5

    I really didn't understand everything this guy said, but I think there is more to this story than meets the eye.

    • @jacquelineclare2373
      @jacquelineclare2373 11 місяців тому +4

      watch it again..

    • @Zorobabbel
      @Zorobabbel 11 місяців тому +7

      There are captions underneath.

    • @Daisy00984
      @Daisy00984 11 місяців тому +5

      I don't know what you mean by 'there's more to this story'??? Do you think that all these precious neo-nate babies chose to commit suicide and attempt suicide? 😢🙏🙏🙏

    • @edsalinas9996
      @edsalinas9996 11 місяців тому

      What is the protocol of the Hospitals to protect the newborns and why didn't this Hospital do so?@@Daisy00984

  • @PeterKirkMusician
    @PeterKirkMusician 10 місяців тому

    Something's not right about letbys case.......

    • @Rebecca236
      @Rebecca236 10 місяців тому

      But the Beverly Allitt case is just fine 🙄

    • @PeterKirkMusician
      @PeterKirkMusician 10 місяців тому

      @@Rebecca236 could well be however there are other similar cases abroad which were overturned. How can we trust doctors are police nowadays after the past couple of years? It's all terribly sad. Not much being said right now about Nottingham maternity unit to name just one, that's impacted over a 000 families, babies and mother's died.

  • @jemmaw1675
    @jemmaw1675 11 місяців тому +24

    Lucy will probably appeal and the Hospital management will back her 100%
    I am sure they think she's innocent.

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD 11 місяців тому +21

      Wtf are you talking about?

    • @devorah935
      @devorah935 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@JamesWilsonMDirony

    • @dating6016
      @dating6016 11 місяців тому +16

      Young, female, white = innocent ❤

    • @hjk1400
      @hjk1400 11 місяців тому

      @@JamesWilsonMD are you real that clueless?? Please don’t ever be in a position where you will be making decisions!!! 🤡🤡

    • @alexkolanis007
      @alexkolanis007 11 місяців тому +13

      Nobody thinks she's innocent. Sure even her parents have given up on her with the amount of evidence present.

  • @meshuggah18
    @meshuggah18 11 місяців тому

    SLAAAYYYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  • @quwipyui6519
    @quwipyui6519 11 місяців тому +5

    what about Muslims murders who fled to Pakistan from UK as they're catched?

  • @yeyyeyyey5104
    @yeyyeyyey5104 11 місяців тому +2

    ABOLISH NHS!!!!

  • @Silkysmooth-qk5nc
    @Silkysmooth-qk5nc 11 місяців тому +6

    I’m not 100 sure about this one
    I can’t really compare this to the Beverly case for these reasons;
    Beverly was a known attention seeker with a history stemming from childhood
    The evidence against Beverly was much more concrete and obvious
    With this case I don’t know it feels more like incompetent nurse than murderer nurse from what I have heard so far

    • @1spiders1
      @1spiders1 11 місяців тому +17

      What the hell you talking about ? The evidence ws concrete

    • @freakmeoutwillu
      @freakmeoutwillu 11 місяців тому +5

      See her confessions

    • @Silkysmooth-qk5nc
      @Silkysmooth-qk5nc 11 місяців тому +2

      @@1spiders1 text messages and a note ?
      No physical evidence

    • @Silkysmooth-qk5nc
      @Silkysmooth-qk5nc 11 місяців тому +2

      @@freakmeoutwillu what confession?
      A scribble where she says I’m evil?

    • @alisonhall4465
      @alisonhall4465 11 місяців тому +9

      Repeated air embolisms , spleen trauma , insulin overdoses , displaced breathing tubes , just incompetent? Absolutely not .

  • @Paradiseislonely
    @Paradiseislonely 11 місяців тому +9

    Just death
    No Angel

  • @bnggon9248
    @bnggon9248 11 місяців тому +1

    "'Angel of Death' killer nurse Beverley Allitt is filmed sewing and talking about 'enjoying her freedom' in psychiatric hospital in chilling footage unearthed 25 years on"
    "Experts discuss whether Beverley Allitt should remain in Rampton Secure Hospital where she is a patient or whether she should be in prison. Footage from an interview in 1993 with ITV shows the murderer sewing and talking about 'enjoying her freedom' in hospital."
    "She should be serving her life sentences in a prison behind bars."
    "Experts have suggested the killer manipulated the system."
    "𝐕𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐦 𝐥𝐞𝐟𝐭 𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐝𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 '𝐀𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐥 𝐨𝐟 𝐃𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡' 𝐁𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐥𝐲 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐭 𝐟𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐤𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐫 𝐧𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐧𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐲 𝐦𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐰𝐞𝐞𝐤𝐬." - 23 August 2021 » 𝙄𝙨 𝙨𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙧𝙚𝙚 𝙣𝙤𝙬?