Lenox MetalMax 4.5" Cut-off Wheel Review & Comparison, Lenox VS Dewalt

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @billysoutdooradventures4293
    @billysoutdooradventures4293 5 років тому +18

    Well first off moving the grinder back and forth hurt your time. Just let it cut. Hold it in place applying light pressure. Much faster cut.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому +3

      +Billy Jack Seems obvious! But I purposely let only the weight of the grinder do the cut attempting to be equal with the pressure not to favor one. Maybe I should of used equal weighted down pressure. I was afraid viewers would accuse me of favoring one by giving it more pressure.

    • @1O1Matthew232
      @1O1Matthew232 5 років тому +2

      The truth is if he applied pressure to the grinder the vice would have toppled over.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому +2

      @@1O1Matthew232 Right! Very True, I've since bolted the vice down. LOL This saw actually works better. ua-cam.com/video/QZ-09YNGeME/v-deo.html

    • @mariussteyn4407
      @mariussteyn4407 5 років тому

      Always recommended to cut with a sawing motion to cool the material and wheel. Keeping it in one place generates more heat and more discoloration on both. Wrong disc, wrong application, but correct cutting method.

  • @ajosmer
    @ajosmer 6 років тому +16

    I like the diamond abrasive wheels for two things: out-of-position jobs where you don't have very good leverage on the grinder, and really long jobs. For the out-of-position jobs, I never feel 100% confident in my control over the grinder's position, and I've seen enough death wheels explode that I'm willing to sacrifice the speed and finish of the cut for my jugular's structural integrity. For the long jobs they're good to have around because you can consume (or partially consume) all of your death wheels faster than you expected and either suddenly have no cutoff wheels, or have a pile of cutoff wheels that don't quite make it to the bottom of the cut that you need. I love having a diamond wheel in my bag to finish up those late night jobs, or get the last bit of the cut done.

    • @Migman2020
      @Migman2020 5 років тому

      I found that using 230mm diamond blades works wonders when you cutting something big like a rsj beam.. Not a clean cut like a abrasive wheel but it cuts alot faster

    • @skabbymuff111
      @skabbymuff111 4 роки тому

      100% agreed, safety is the top priority for me also

    • @savageoffroadmowers6199
      @savageoffroadmowers6199 4 роки тому

      I like to use a full face shield when cutting, it doesn't matter to me whether it's my welding hood or a clear shield both have saved me a couple times from wheels that have blown apart. Btw I've had a diamond wheel shatter before while cutting masonry

  • @markharris2539
    @markharris2539 6 років тому +13

    Diamond disc produce less air-borne toxic dust

  • @xcvsdxvsx
    @xcvsdxvsx 5 років тому +4

    I'm totally going to do that with my chuck! Someday... if I ever find it...

  • @skabbymuff111
    @skabbymuff111 4 роки тому +2

    It's all about safety for me, standard cut off discs fail / explode far too often to be a sensible option if you value your health / life. I've switched to the alternative.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  4 роки тому +1

      Yup, if you want to use an abrasive disc sensibly, you need to use the right protective gear. I will say I just had someone send me some new cutoff discs that look promising, I plan on doing a full review soon.

    • @skabbymuff111
      @skabbymuff111 4 роки тому

      @@1D10CRACY even with all the right safety gear, it's going to hurt real bad and could ruin your life. Cut off discs are way too weak and unpredictable and dangerous to be used by anyone who values their life. I get it, the job needs doing and they work, but they really should be left in the past now there are safer alternatives.

  • @Fabes002
    @Fabes002 6 років тому +7

    Who doesn't add pressure? Laying it on the steel and waiting is poor testing at best. See also Keith Fenner: Bouquet of Bullsh*t for a good example of what Lenox wheels can do.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  6 років тому

      You must of missed my explanation. I purposely didn't add pressure using both the lenox and the DeWalt so the viewers couldn't say I was adding more pressure to one and not the other. Albeit not the preferred way to use the discs, it seemed to be a fair way compare the two. I suppose I could build a device to deliver consistent pressure and demonstrate the two. Another commenter felt speed of the disc may be a factor.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for the reference on the video BTW. After watching his video, I absolutely am going to give the Lenox disc another serious try. If I have any success I will do another update video and eat some crow.

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 5 років тому

      Farmer it’s called making it a comparative non favorable test.

  • @AndrewBrowner
    @AndrewBrowner 6 років тому +2

    you need to give it some down pressure not just the weight of the grinder... i havent used one and they are slower then abrasive regardless but you should give it ago while pushing down a few pounds worth of the grinder

    • @AndrewBrowner
      @AndrewBrowner 6 років тому

      also you can use the diamond grit on the side of the blade edge to take the razor edge/ overhang off after the cut kinda like a combo cut abrasive

  • @Sam-lk6eo
    @Sam-lk6eo Рік тому

    Thanks for this video i was on the verge of buying a selection of Lenox blades, But may only get one as a trial now, due to less dust and harmful fragments coming off the blade.

  • @المهليمايولي-ب6ت
    @المهليمايولي-ب6ت 2 роки тому

    After work and experience, is it really equivalent to 1000 pieces? Would you recommend it to someone who wants to save?

  • @claudebai725
    @claudebai725 5 років тому +1

    used lenox disc before, my labour was super unhappy due to slow speed and noise

  • @jwarmstrong
    @jwarmstrong 4 роки тому +1

    You should have got an abrasive the same thickness as the Lenox for a fair comparison - the lenox cut twice the metal.

  • @Papakbz
    @Papakbz 5 років тому

    So the diamond wheel may be better on concrete... is there a good wheel choice for cutting a 3” steel fence post filled with concrete???

  • @dansalt-sfl
    @dansalt-sfl 5 років тому

    I have to agree with you. I only use diamond discs for masonry. Nothing beats old school abrasives for metals. Now for brick, concrete, hardi and stone, a diamond wheel is worth its weight in gold.

  • @fgjf1079
    @fgjf1079 5 років тому

    I bought the Lenox disk to cut through some tires for a kid's school project. Cut through like butter(well, almost like butter). Before that, I tried a sawzall, but it was too slow and not as effective as the angle grinder with this disk.

  • @BullMtnBilly-vm1wf
    @BullMtnBilly-vm1wf 6 років тому +1

    I've seen similar reviews on these, but I've been happy with mine, perhaps because am using a 11 amp Milwaukee grinder?

  • @mrriley8251
    @mrriley8251 6 років тому

    Will the Lenox blade heat harden the steel on a 1" round or square stock? Will it cut threaded Rod without heat strengthening it

  • @kevinklei3005
    @kevinklei3005 2 роки тому

    From a retired toolmaker from down under that ''diamond " wheel appeared out of round /not centered /not balanced or all 3 because of the hopping . How ever I still use the normal [suicide ] ones due their cutting speed and price . Yes I have had a few of the normal ones disintegrate but no major incidents .I found the best ones "Made In Germany" with a horse on the label

  • @andresavila2251
    @andresavila2251 5 років тому

    What is the Wheel Cut-off thickness, 116 or 1/8?

  • @hopepeace3271
    @hopepeace3271 3 роки тому +1

    I seem to have better experience with the lenox so far, tried those cut off wheel it only last 2 or 3 cut's if I'm lucky. I don't like changing grinder wheel after 2 or 3 cuts and they seem to desinegrate sometime without noticing until you shut off the grinder also had the middle section separate from the cut off wheel . I use very little pressure on both best result so far with lenox.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  3 роки тому

      I bet had my angle grinder been a faster one, it probably would of done a good job. I've been using Graff cut off wheels for a while now and they seem pretty good. ua-cam.com/video/xQrVk79JqCo/v-deo.html

  • @BuildBreakFix
    @BuildBreakFix 2 роки тому

    Hum....... Never had issue with ones I buy. though they don't have relief cuts in my blades and the coatings are almost 1/2 wide on sides.. Lenox blade looks painful as it just all over from the cutouts lol

  • @james10739
    @james10739 6 років тому +1

    I don't know about pennies and nickels if the 30x claim is accurate at $2 to $3 that's $60 to $90 total so $45 to $75 in savings but there is also almost no chance you will have a disk brake and turn into a dangerous projectile I'm not saying they are perfect but there is a decent saving and if you gave them some pressure the cut may be better and as far as time I mean changing out blades puts it pretty close I think especially if you don't stock them having to go buy a couple of new ones

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  6 років тому

      Have you used one yet?

  • @rangerknow940
    @rangerknow940 4 роки тому +1

    You have the wheel on backwards and are cutting with the wrong technique. The diamond carbide cutting disc wont produce any grinder dust which is a huge plus.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  4 роки тому +1

      I had the wheel mounted the correct way and my technique was to just use the weight of the device to do the cutting in an attempt to be fair with equal pressure and not accidentally show favoritism. I probably need to reshoot this video with some mechanical down pressure to be fair.

  • @Eralen00
    @Eralen00 7 років тому +1

    Diamond disk looks less safe with it rattling around like that. Might be better if you're cutting super hard things like ceramic or glass, thats all I use diamond disks for

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  7 років тому +1

      I have diamond discs made for masonary and they work well. This one is specifically made for metal cutting, and your right, it bounced around a bit.

    • @davidwooten3430
      @davidwooten3430 6 років тому

      I was thinking about buying one. I think I will go to regular disks instead to cut sheet metal to size without having an expensive tool.

  • @keithj30
    @keithj30 5 років тому

    I totally agree they might last for a longer time but they dont cut well, takes 5 times maybe 6 times longer cutting 1.2mm sheet than a normal abrasive thin cut cutoff wheel

  • @chrisjones6165
    @chrisjones6165 6 років тому +1

    I've had excellent luck with the Hercules from harbor freight. Almost comparable to the Walters my company provides for .80 a piece over almost 5$. Have this Lenox have not used it, heard it sucks for thick material and runs slower so it's sat on my peg board for months now lol

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  6 років тому +1

      Very good to know! I purchased a 10 pack from harbor freight, Bauer brand, and they seemed pretty good as well.

    • @jcramirez2233
      @jcramirez2233 6 років тому

      Herc circ saw blades r amazing I'm sure the blades r tough too

  • @ca1vin
    @ca1vin 6 років тому +2

    I think a diamond cutting wheel is only good for stone cutting.

  • @tvbox6955
    @tvbox6955 6 років тому

    How do the Harbor Freight cutting wheels compare?

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  6 років тому

      The "Warrior" brand (green label) at Harbor Freight are fair and seem to explode easy, but recently I've been using the "Bauer" and "Hercules" brand cut off wheels also sold by Harbor Freight and they are pretty good for the price! A stack of 10 usually runs $9.99 unless on sale, add a %20 coupon and you really can't go wrong. Personally I cannot tell the difference between the Hercules and Bauer brands and both will easily last twice as long as the Warrior brand.

  • @MarkLeonTanner
    @MarkLeonTanner 4 роки тому

    I bought one... Couldn't try it out because I lost my spanner wrench...

  • @BaxasanA
    @BaxasanA 6 років тому +1

    Thanks friend I'm going to buy lenax but now I have changed my juice I will buy dewalt you save my money

  • @patrickbyrnes118
    @patrickbyrnes118 4 роки тому

    As an educator, should you be using a Type 27 guard with the Type 41/1 cutting wheels?

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  4 роки тому

      As a commenter, why wouldn't you?

  • @seangp3837
    @seangp3837 4 роки тому

    Thanks for your informative vid, I have the same porter cable grinder and tried to use a flat cutting wheel with no hump in the center, It interferes with the guard, is it safe to use? any suggestion? Thanks

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  4 роки тому

      Mine does not interfere with flat discs. Makes me wonder if they changed something in the newer models. Are you using a 5" or a 4.5" disc?

    • @seangp3837
      @seangp3837 4 роки тому

      1D10CRACY 4 1/2” I think u can buy the cutting wheels with the recessed center

  • @tvbox6955
    @tvbox6955 6 років тому +1

    Can you review the grinder?

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  6 років тому +1

      Probably will not do a review on it, but I will say its almost 10 years old, my Dad purchased the same one at the time I purchased mine and we both are still using them. For an inexpensive angle grinder, they have held up very well and have good power. A quick search on Amazon and it appears they are still making the same model I have. amzn.to/2RxZHf2

    • @tvbox6955
      @tvbox6955 6 років тому

      Can you please share the model number?

  • @pl5624
    @pl5624 4 роки тому

    I've ran one all year..it still cuts.yes there is an edge that needs clean up but beats keep changing wheels.i will stick with the lenox.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  4 роки тому

      Have you tried a Graff Diamond disc yet? Its all I'm using these days. amzn.to/2HdzXF1

    • @pl5624
      @pl5624 4 роки тому

      @@1D10CRACY no

  • @letsRegulateSociopaths
    @letsRegulateSociopaths 5 років тому +1

    Yeah, get yourself a milwaukee deep cut band saw, takes like 3 seconds for 1/2 rebar or 10 for 1 inch.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому

      I love Milwaukee products! For now I've been using this saw, and it does a great job! ua-cam.com/video/QZ-09YNGeME/v-deo.html

  • @markswaggerty4958
    @markswaggerty4958 5 років тому

    You are supposed to use it on 1/8 inch sheet or less

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому

      Maybe, but with regular cut off discs I've cut up to quarter inch with no issues. Recently I've been using one of these saws though. ua-cam.com/video/QZ-09YNGeME/v-deo.html

  • @mikeredhead2894
    @mikeredhead2894 Рік тому

    Very useful and clear video. Thank you.

  • @brettyg76
    @brettyg76 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for this review... I was tossing up yesterday wether to buy the standard cutting discs or this Lenox Diamond disc... I chose the standard disc, a pack of 25 discs for $26... or the single Lenox disc for $18... never seen these diamond cutting discs before and I just stumbled upon this diamond Lenox disc whilst searching for the standard angle grinder discs... was very curious as to how they cut and perform... after seeing this video I'm glad I stuck to the standard cutting disc.

  • @tylergenke7252
    @tylergenke7252 4 роки тому

    I have found they are only nice for cutting thin steel because I find that thin steel likes to eat up abrasive blades

  • @durango8882
    @durango8882 3 роки тому

    Diamond disc kinda bouncy. Thank you!

  • @TerryCarlson-k4v
    @TerryCarlson-k4v 3 місяці тому

    If that is truly diamond, it's not suitable for soft steels. It will load up and not make a good chip.

  • @artgoat
    @artgoat 6 років тому

    For even more fun, you can get the 0.045 abrasive disks in a 7" version for the big grinders. It's actually not that bad, because the extra weight of the 7" grinder keeps it from hopping around so much. I came to a similar conclusion to yours in my own testing, but I was putting more pressure on the Lenox disk. ua-cam.com/video/Bzsl1XN8Mtg/v-deo.html I've actually found that the thin abrasive disks are able to cut things that even my chop saw gets hung up on, like 1.5" thick plate, probably because I can keep moving around and grinding on the high spots (where the chop saw grinds a trough that it gets hung up in).

  • @Paul-pm3bv
    @Paul-pm3bv 5 років тому

    7-1/4 in. x 56-Tooth Steel Demon Fine Ferrous Metal Cutting Saw Blade Try this one you won't be disappointed!

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому

      I've actually been using one of these chop saws and have been very pleased! ua-cam.com/video/QZ-09YNGeME/v-deo.html

  • @MSJONESBLOUNT
    @MSJONESBLOUNT 2 роки тому +1

    I love cutting steel

  • @aba22125
    @aba22125 6 років тому

    You are forgetting one crucial benefit of using the diamond disc - it will not shatter, shattering what is the biggest hazard I would say, even if you wear a face mask, a 150km/h flying disc can do serious damage to your body and mother forbid if you are not wearing a face mask, safety glasses is not enough, wear a face mask combined with safety glasses - sounds dumb, but the face mask is for shattering hazards and the safety glasses is for underneath coverage, just in case something got underneath the face mask, which happens a lot.
    But then again, kickbacks, one more of insane hazards, I do not know which one is safer in these matters.
    And props to you for being no dumbass fool and using the guard on the angle grinder, this alone can save your body/face from a shattered disc.

    • @aba22125
      @aba22125 6 років тому

      This tool overall, though useful, is extremely dangerous. I would invest into a table wet cutter if you are doing tile work a lot and for metal, well, there is rather no good substance/replacement.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому

      @@aba22125 Thanks for the advice! For now I've been using one of these chop saws and have been pretty pleased! ua-cam.com/video/QZ-09YNGeME/v-deo.html

  • @phillhuddleston9445
    @phillhuddleston9445 3 роки тому

    If you cut it on the edge instead of on the long side it will cut much faster, doing that with the standard abrasive cuts faster too but wears the blade down really fast, with the diamond blade there is not extra wear.

  • @billydamnit
    @billydamnit 6 років тому +1

    I bought one of the Lenox blades. never again

    • @chrisjones6165
      @chrisjones6165 6 років тому

      Billy Damnit all I run in my 7x11 bandsaw. Don't really like there portaband blades though. Have this wheel have not used because job provides Walter so no need to burn my own up

  • @XTRAHEAT08
    @XTRAHEAT08 5 років тому +2

    That grinder is about as beat as your review

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому

      Thanks! And I'm still using it!

    • @darren897897
      @darren897897 5 років тому

      @@1D10CRACY Along with the same diamond disc too.

  • @nelsontchir644
    @nelsontchir644 4 роки тому

    ya very disappointing!!!! the 30x longer life and 1000+ plus cuts got me !!! been at this game almost 50 years!!! im sticking with standard slim cut wheels!!!

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  4 роки тому

      Graff saw this video and sent some of theirs to try. Maybe in the next few days I'll do a comparison.

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 5 років тому +1

    I heard these were slower but Jesus!

  • @markjones116
    @markjones116 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, that's put me.off buying on look at it vibrate and shake, don't look safe

  • @savageoffroadmowers6199
    @savageoffroadmowers6199 4 роки тому +1

    I thought I was getting a hell of a deal, I hate the Lenox metal master, it cuts dirt slow, it's very hard on the tool, it doesn't cut smoothly as you can see in this video the start of the cut is shaky and bouncy, the vibration never ceases throughout the cut and it's down right deafening even with hearing protection.
    Do yourself a favor and don't waste your money on those discs. Lenox is a good blade company but the diamond metal cutting wheel was for sure a swing and a miss

  • @No-vm7go
    @No-vm7go 3 роки тому

    you really need to bolt your vise down. That's unsafe as hell.

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  3 роки тому

      Most of my vices are bolted down. That one I use as a portable vice. Probably should of used a bolted down vice for the video as a good example though.

  • @gurwinderagricultureworkst4640
    @gurwinderagricultureworkst4640 5 років тому +1

    We are you country

  • @TheAntipedy
    @TheAntipedy 6 років тому

    TOTALY CRAZILY OUT PRICED AND NOT GOOD AT ALL . I buy 100 thin 5 inch cutting discs in Australia for 150 Australian dollars. So no thanks. But Thanks for the review and saving me money .

    • @Resleeved
      @Resleeved 6 років тому

      Every now and then on buyinvite you can get 5" discs for 70c each. I bought 200 a few years back and I still have not used them all and the quality is on par with flexovit, I've never had any smash even when jammed, nor does the disc shear from the center mounting ring like cheap Bunnings discs. I think the brand was RN Machinery or something.

  • @fixedit8689
    @fixedit8689 3 роки тому +1

    Bolt that vise down

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  3 роки тому

      That has been mentioned a few times. My main vices are bolted to the bench tops, this one I just move around as needed. I suppose if it keeps bothering the viewers, I can bolt it to a heavy plate. It doesn't really bother me.

  • @jaysontaylor71
    @jaysontaylor71 5 років тому

    You have the blade backwards. In the cut the label is facing the shield on the end its facing down. Nice try

    • @1D10CRACY
      @1D10CRACY  5 років тому

      LOL you had me! Thought you were serious and went back and looked. Your a very funny man!

  • @x1area51ii7
    @x1area51ii7 3 роки тому

    1000x plus straws..

  • @obfuscated3090
    @obfuscated3090 6 років тому

    Want happiness? Fab a 6" guard for your grinder and cease buying 4.5" cutting discs!
    Then make your next grinder a 6" unit. I won't buy 4.5" grinders new any more. You can, and I have, cut GM 14 bolt axles in two (the axle, any grinder will do the housing) with a 6" disc and my Metabo. Pferd make excellent discs, and the best place to buy (besides online) is usually your local welding supply. I buy by the box.

    • @chrisjones6165
      @chrisjones6165 6 років тому

      Ob Fuscated Menards sells pfered as well

  • @robertpena6710
    @robertpena6710 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the review saving me money

  • @No-vm7go
    @No-vm7go 3 роки тому

    Lenox brand sucks. Graff is much better; costs a little more, but you know what they say. DeWalt also makes a diamond wheel which I'm sure is good. Lenox is garbage.

  • @zoozolplexOne
    @zoozolplexOne 3 роки тому

    Cool!!!

  • @joelwatts9042
    @joelwatts9042 7 років тому +1

    Good to know

  • @ls2surf485
    @ls2surf485 4 роки тому

    Push harder

  • @beepbeepcoyote
    @beepbeepcoyote 7 років тому +4

    thanks, you saved me buying one.

    • @10000rambos
      @10000rambos 6 років тому +1

      beepbeepcoyote Exactly, me too.

  • @marcealvarez8103
    @marcealvarez8103 6 років тому

    Súper. Cul👀👀👀

  • @JC7781PDL
    @JC7781PDL 6 років тому

    I was just looking at the Lenox, glad I didn't buy it! Thanks for the review

    • @aba22125
      @aba22125 6 років тому

      Do not forget that it can save you from an accident, sure slower, but much safer. ( I am referring to the shattering of a disc accident ).

    • @aba22125
      @aba22125 6 років тому

      You can type into google images: "angle grinder accidents" and you will find some nasty stuff there of what happens when you do not respect the tool.

    • @JC7781PDL
      @JC7781PDL 6 років тому

      @@aba22125 thanks for the advice. Didn't know I could find angle grinder accidents on Google