3 Things Every Producer Should Steal From Björk

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  • Опубліковано 19 гру 2024

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  • @raskarkapax
    @raskarkapax 6 місяців тому +185

    Steal the swan dress

    • @billweir1745
      @billweir1745 6 місяців тому +3

      Lady GaGa, is that you?

    • @Icythot-m6i
      @Icythot-m6i 6 місяців тому

      yung thug gonna make a comeback when he get out of jail lol

    • @tangibleblockofwisdom6386
      @tangibleblockofwisdom6386 6 місяців тому +1

      No, steal from The Swans.

    • @shpongled587
      @shpongled587 5 місяців тому

      psychopath?

    • @foljs5858
      @foljs5858 3 місяці тому +1

      the Swan Dress was a collective iq test... we failed it

  • @BataraKado
    @BataraKado 6 місяців тому +59

    "if you dont know what to record then dont record anything." - steve albini. r.i.p

    • @tangibleblockofwisdom6386
      @tangibleblockofwisdom6386 6 місяців тому +9

      Love albini. The complete refusal to be a producer, only engineer, obsession with representing musicians he recorded as close to what they truly sound like. So much love and respect for this man. RIP

    • @nicolodelucia8743
      @nicolodelucia8743 5 місяців тому +3

      rip to my non biological father

  • @Invisibletoday
    @Invisibletoday 6 місяців тому +19

    I had the pleasure of meeting Björk and got to work with her on her biophillia app when I was in high school that was the best week of my life

    • @golb083
      @golb083 3 місяці тому

      wow! you’re very lucky!

  • @els1f
    @els1f 6 місяців тому +30

    The "... But do we have more wisdom?" Got an immediate subscribe lol

  • @blissrae-ul3qk
    @blissrae-ul3qk 2 місяці тому +2

    1:20 This is EXACTLY what I did, except I practiced to the point of mental exhaustion and being sick of jazz, not an injury. I’m trying to get back into playing instruments and really enjoying listening to and making other genres now because I really do love it.

  • @SchwingyPOV
    @SchwingyPOV 6 місяців тому +22

    Now I can finally sound like a professional 90s producer, as I've always dreamed of being. Thx.

  • @diiegoaguilera7435
    @diiegoaguilera7435 2 місяці тому +3

    Man i wished bjork came into my room to give me production advice

  • @fredmcveigh9877
    @fredmcveigh9877 6 місяців тому +12

    I didn't realise how involved she was with the production of the track.

    • @dddux
      @dddux 5 місяців тому +2

      If asking for drums that sound like magma is "involved with production"... then yes. But she wasn't into tech stuff. However, ideas are more or at least equally important. 😉

    • @elektracorpse
      @elektracorpse 4 місяці тому +10

      @@dddux "she wasn't into tech stuff"? there are documentaries where she is GUIDING the production. May I also remind you she has collaborated on the CREATION of an instrument.

    • @kidaidanykfl
      @kidaidanykfl 3 місяці тому +3

      I mean one of her albums is mainly produced of her voice

    • @AndreDreamlover
      @AndreDreamlover Місяць тому +2

      @@ddduxShe produced Vespertine mainly by herself and has been heavily involved in production since Post. She just didn’t give ideas

    • @l_archives
      @l_archives Місяць тому +1

      ​@@dddux Lit she started to take the lead on production since Homogenic. B herself has stated her as a "control freak" but also is witty enough to see where to release and handle tasks to others in order to have the best outcome for her music. Bc of that ppl tend to dress her with the idea that other make the things instead of her when it's really for/with her.

  • @nadesmond6029
    @nadesmond6029 5 місяців тому +4

    My brain heard drums that sound like lava oozing out of the ground...my mouth went pok pok bolup boluk kurukuruk pah palap ppa kurr kuru cloug...
    soo, close enough 😂

  • @weaponxx9467
    @weaponxx9467 6 місяців тому +3

    I actually started lo-fi recording with hardware, it was really useful to me starting that way as a home producer. I have used Ableton in the past but usually only for multitrack arranging/recording and the only DAW kinda thing I use now is Caustic 3 on my phone because it is comparatively limited. Good video.

  • @StinkyDula
    @StinkyDula 6 місяців тому +1

    when I get to 4:17 I like to just get to a stopping point n make a new song instead of just thinking of endless possibilities- - bc there are look at all the fans who make remixes of music endless pits of sound creation there is no one and done when it comes to art you just create it and give it to the world to interpret it ❤

  • @l_archives
    @l_archives Місяць тому

    Her mixing choices for Homogenic still amaze me after 20 years of listening. As you said It's really an example on how make it simple and take simple but mind-blowing choices (like take off the effects for the strings on "5 years" at the middle of the song in order to release energy and increase the climax)

  • @Lhenndyn
    @Lhenndyn 6 місяців тому +24

    Mark Bell was a Genius…

  • @sampyannotti
    @sampyannotti 6 місяців тому +34

    I'm sure having Mark Bell around didn't hurt

  • @zachary963
    @zachary963 6 місяців тому +5

    My favorite approach to limitations is to be generous with the “delete” key. If it sounds/feels wrong, then just get rid of it and move on.
    That approach makes every moment exciting and every idea feel fresh

  • @jnnx
    @jnnx 6 місяців тому +4

    The genius behind Homogenic is MARK BELL (R.I.P) ACT LIKE U KNO!

  • @Bro-Fi-ik1rf
    @Bro-Fi-ik1rf 6 місяців тому +5

    Keep going, surprised at the amount of subs for the quality of content. Keep going! Love Bjork, love limitations, I couldn’t agree more about everything you covered… nice to have a reminder of this stuff.

  • @heejinscementbrownies1385
    @heejinscementbrownies1385 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you for this video. its exactly what i needed. i feel that getting into production on modern day DAWs and computers can be extremely overwhelming to the point where you just cant even find a place to start so you dont. youre 100% right about the limitations thing - it can be liberating. one thing i know is that my best work on ANY creative front wasnt made because overcomplicated things for myself. love this perspective and love bjork lol

    • @DarkGloComics
      @DarkGloComics 5 місяців тому

      Timebase 24. Figure that out before the effects.

  • @scarletdawnmusic
    @scarletdawnmusic 6 місяців тому +16

    I'll start by saying your videos are cool! I think your first two points are great and very important.
    Now, I'm sorry for being the first negative comment here but I feel some sort of way about Björk. I've written papers and essay on her compositions and production haha. Here's my wall of text:
    Björk is the worst example you can use to "keep it simple." I know you're choosing Homogenic as the focal point, but even with the limited palette of sounds (beats and voice), I'd hardly call that album "keeping it simple." It was a massive culmination of collaboration, her ear for composition and orchestration, and experimentation. I mean, Pluto alone is enough to show that. Heck, even Hunter! That 909 drum rolls were all done by hand.x
    Also, all that gear you pointed out was anything but minimal. If we're looking at it with 2024 lenses, for sure they're limited. But by 90s standards? That was a top of the line studio!
    I feel like a better example could've been to talk about Medulla and how she took a single concept (the human voice) and explored it to basically its extreme; with the production just being voices, even if it was sequenced.

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому +4

      fair points, but I didn't say keep it simple! The point was limitations/constraints. She did have top of the line studio equipment and a plethora of collaborators, yet she still chose to impose constraints upon herself :)

    • @goldenfurniture123
      @goldenfurniture123 6 місяців тому

      @@cuppychupsclassroom yeah she could have just chosen no restraints how many ailments do you have

  • @glorpcommander
    @glorpcommander 6 місяців тому +1

    duude, your video was awesome!! I felt engaged the whole time. Very well crafted, Im subbing to see more !

  • @brianrainsfordmarshall2692
    @brianrainsfordmarshall2692 6 місяців тому +1

    Subscribed the moment I heard the "MIDI Chord Pack" drop.

  • @TheZombie21
    @TheZombie21 6 місяців тому +9

    That was a good video! You deserve more subs

  • @waterblender
    @waterblender 6 місяців тому +1

    idk how this found me this is like exactly what i needed

  • @Dikkker
    @Dikkker 6 місяців тому

    The 3rd especially changed my music creation long ago. Limitation is so liberating!

  • @scottlarock7924
    @scottlarock7924 6 місяців тому +2

    Nice video. Love Bjork.
    Limitations: I started using Soundpaint a few months ago. It comes with a nice piano and some other free sounds and I have bought some other instruments to run through the player.
    There is a lot of control and there are a lot of effects available in the player.
    I have found that I can get a lot of work done inside sound paint without even stepping the other VSTs in my DAW.
    This created a very efficient workflow, and as I am an overthinker by nature, it helped prevent me from spinning out on deciding what other plugins to use and negotiating their different interfaces.
    Maybe you have a similar plug-in that offers a lot of depth and options and learning to use it to its full extent can help keep you focused.
    Or not. :)

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому

      yes, I have reduced a lot of my tools in recent years! Mostly stock plugins and a handful of virtual instruments and I try to just modify as necessary. Practicing working quickly has also helped a ton!

  • @Adamnoisetog
    @Adamnoisetog 6 місяців тому

    I love this video - Especially the limitation rule. I'm currently writing the next project for my band and the rule we've set is that at least eight to nine songs from the next project need to be under 3:40 minutes and two have to be 2:00 minutes or less. I've also imposed a rule that as much as we're double tracking the guitars, there's only going to be one guitar part that plays throughout.
    It's ended up with songs that are more aggressive and to the point, and a lot more experimentation that's gone into the sound design. Including elements of no-input mixing, field recordings, synth leads and pads that are more experimental, and on my guitar I've been using different effects to give my intention in a much more direct manner. It's been so exciting to see where these limitations take us!

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому

      sounds awesome! it sounds like the best part is that regardless of the end result you will have enjoyed the process, good for you!

  • @SongwriterPorshia
    @SongwriterPorshia 6 місяців тому +8

    This thumbnail was nice and so clickable 🥰 just started the. Vid but editing is on point ☝️ excellent job 🙏🏾 much growth to you in your future

  • @santibanks
    @santibanks 6 місяців тому

    What many producers lack is an actual conception of what the music should be like. This is what Björk is really good at, she knows what she wants and turns what she hears in her head and imagination into music. The other thing many producers nowadays seem to lack is the ability to let things develop, insert emotion, and have space. If you keep on adding layers, things sound small and are really difficult to mix. Make space, let things breath, it will sound bigger immediately. Make room for emotions instead of that over produced "perfect" pop vocal sound with fake Disney emotions. It's ok if things are bold and daring. Bjørk often makes me really uncomfortable with her singing (Medulla…). I don't like it but man do I appreciate it. It is what makes her music what it is. And it works…

  • @WalkinonSunshyne
    @WalkinonSunshyne 6 місяців тому +1

    Great ideas. Like the thinking behind these about limitation breeding creativity, sound design and using your influences. Bjork is pronounced wrong though. Just thought I'd mention. Cheers

  • @this_is_an_outrage
    @this_is_an_outrage 6 місяців тому

    Nice videos!! I’m not a fan of the Beatles (probably an associational complex admittedly), but I love your take and I LOVE Bjork. I recently was a part of a recording that was technically great, and each instrument sounded spot on, but the mix lacked any sort of design and left a lot to be desired for my taste. It seems to be pretty common with recording engineers to get so caught up in “standards” that the idea of coloring outside the lines feels self-destructive from a career standpoint. This is by far the most level headed presentation of the line to ride in taking those chances and not overcooking your mix.

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому +1

      the whole reason I got into mixing and production in the first place was because I felt the pros I would hire were doing it wrong (despite not knowing anything about it myself). Fast forward 6-7 years and they probably think I do it wrong but I still enjoy listening to my stuff even after spending all that time working on it, which wasn't the case before, so I'm happy!

    • @this_is_an_outrage
      @this_is_an_outrage 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cuppychupsclassroom That's a great point. There def has to be room for taste. However, there are folks that do things "by the book" or by some standard that is based on other's opinion. Purveying that mindset usually results in a sea of uninspired work that is meant more for product asset than expression. The folks that end up changing the face of the industry are the ones that know how to do it "right" but are willing to push the boundaries, or even blow them out completely. Times and tastes change. To be fair to the engineer on the project I was referring to, the guy is a freakin beast and the recording sounds technically amazing. His track captures are, bar none, the best for any project I have been a part of (even better than a guy I worked with that has a Grammy). The mix was also well balanced, with good space for definition. It was just really dry, and the mastering approach seemed solely about meeting industry standards. I think it was truthfully due to a communication breakdown somewhere, and in no way hold the engineer responsible. He was willing to work with us, but at the same time there was some impatience in getting it pushed from our side, and we wanted to try and maintain our relationship with the engineer. We still ended up with a great recording, it was just a lesson in how important knowing what you want in a recording should be determined before reaching out to the engineer to get the process started.

  • @3bnuri
    @3bnuri 6 місяців тому +1

    inspiring video mate do more of this

  • @gabriele6744
    @gabriele6744 6 місяців тому +1

    never stop w these!

  • @CareyMedia
    @CareyMedia 6 місяців тому

    Good stuff. going back to study this album now

  • @dhst76
    @dhst76 6 місяців тому +1

    Very refreshing video. Subscribed✅ and Liked👍🏼

  • @sebastianagredoalegria
    @sebastianagredoalegria 6 місяців тому +1

    great video, pls keep it up!! 🥳

  • @DiscountLionSafari
    @DiscountLionSafari 6 місяців тому

    Production and quality earned you a quick subscribe--well done!

  • @tomstruct
    @tomstruct 6 місяців тому

    Nice video man thank the algo for boosting it 🎉

  • @austincaruso7596
    @austincaruso7596 6 місяців тому

    Thanks! Bjorks production isnt spoken about enough

  • @danielpaulo7739
    @danielpaulo7739 6 місяців тому +1

    Re: Limitations. Look at John Foxx's list of rules for Metamatic

  • @dddux
    @dddux 5 місяців тому

    Whilst at it, don't use EQ and compressors while you're making a song. Just basic FX and basic EQ and comp. if the sound really needs it (or other fx of course), and be careful with levels - set the levels so they sound good without any EQ and comp. Mixing - EQ , Comp, master reverb, limiter, is supposed to be just the final polish to the song. 👍Cheers!

  • @maseds01
    @maseds01 6 місяців тому

    Very nice walkthrough. Love it.
    Sometimes I have even forced myself to only a single instrument and move from midi to audio since it opens up a lot of options and good visual insight of the sound. If that makes sense? :)

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому +1

      totally! I print midi to audio too but admittedly not enough as I should!

  • @bluepenguins
    @bluepenguins 6 місяців тому

    Squarepusher and aphex twin have a lot we can learn from 👍

  • @Avtomat
    @Avtomat 5 місяців тому

    Probably the best music production tutorial ever 💚

  • @angel10001
    @angel10001 6 місяців тому

    3:13 I KNOW THERES A BJORK SONG LIKE THIS BUT IDK WHICH ONE AM I HAVING A BUTTERFLY EFFECT...?

  • @marmotman
    @marmotman 6 місяців тому

    Her decision to go with only beats, strings and vocals is reminiscent of Peter Gabriel's "no cymbals" rule for his third album. Self inflicted limitations breeds invention, arrangement wise.

  • @312dasbkilla
    @312dasbkilla 6 місяців тому +9

    Her style is limitless, love her music

  • @Bildernaut
    @Bildernaut 6 місяців тому +1

    And , Last but not least, finish a Song!😉 Many Peoble working since 20 Years+ for the first Album.

  • @ATolerableQuietude
    @ATolerableQuietude 6 місяців тому +1

    Good points here! Thanks for the video.

  • @walterdeminicis737
    @walterdeminicis737 6 місяців тому

    You really on your 4th UA-cam video and got 300 subs, 10k views?
    Pretty good. When I started the video I didn't believe you were just starting out lmao.
    Good job :D Imma sub

  • @pongtrometer
    @pongtrometer 6 місяців тому +1

    Bjork as songwriter , adds to her arsenal of ideas as a producer.

  • @ulfgj
    @ulfgj 6 місяців тому

    hear hear. solid advice there. listen what bjork says and stop being resentful and start embrace shit instead. let's grow up.

  • @ascensionrecordings
    @ascensionrecordings 5 місяців тому +1

    parameters and deadlines = tracks

  • @Maddy-eu9qh
    @Maddy-eu9qh 6 місяців тому

    Good video!! I'm just getting back into producing after a break due to some of these pitfalls. I spent a lot of the break learning guitar instead (so I guess opposite of you!) but now trying to figure out how to combine the two is kinda overwhelming me. I have an acoustic guitar (w pickup) and 1 condenser mic, and want to record vocals and guitar simultaneously instead of overdubbing... any tips on this? 😅 The DI tends to sound kinda shitty. I think I could get somewhere with some srs mixing but I'm not sure if there's a simpler solution I'm missing?

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому

      I don't have a ton of experience with acoustic guitar DIs but a couple options come to mind:
      1 - you can try placing your mic in such a way to capture both your voice and the guitar simultaneously. Of course this means you won't be able to treat them separately when mixing, but if you experiment a lot with the placement before recording full takes you might find something that you won't need a lot of mixing. This also depends a lot on how much ambient noise is in your recording environment though
      2 - (can also be combined with #1 to an extent) for the guitar DI you can experiment with some parallel processing. Ex duplicate the DI track and have one dedicated to processing the high frequencies and the other for the lows. Sometimes if you try doing too much processing on a single track the guitar will stop sounding like a guitar and splitting it up into its component parts will do more but in a more transparent way. Another version of this would be to duplicate the vocal track and try using some of the guitar bleed to your advantage. This will also affect how the vocal sounds though, but it might be worth a shot!
      maybe these are the things you were thinking of when you mentionned "srs mixing", but the short answer is that I've always found acoustic guitar DIs to be lackluster too! If you really can't get it to sound good it might be worth considering recording guitar and voice seperately

    • @DarkGloComics
      @DarkGloComics 5 місяців тому

      Put up some heavy blankets, moving blankets if possible to deaden the room as much as possible. (less noise means more headroom for gain and effects) Put mic at the height between the guitar hole and your mouth. (Also try above your nose height and aim it slightly down) Change cardioid pattern to 'infinity' symbol. Sit about the middle of the room, but test and move till you find the sweet spot. Set up two mono tracks. Record. You can then add effects, filter out the noise frequency just a little, room reverb, and pan the two tracks L and R till it sounds good. That was the method I used.

  • @andreap2320
    @andreap2320 5 місяців тому +1

    I think the only legit advice is using the tools you have, using your guts and not necessarily imitating self proclaimed producers on UA-cam. I'm not sure what album you listened to, but Homogenic is VERY layered, also thanks to the dreamy production of Howie B. When Bjork refers to beats on a side and strings on another she's talking about the initial idea of the album, a sort of special album where the listener could increase with the stereo knob the amount of strings or beats, personalizing the experience. Well, already in 1997 everybody was using CD players with no equalizing knob so the project was aborted and the sound was made homogenous, hence the name... And, just for reference, Bjork and Homogenic have been the most stolen work in music for decaded, and no one ever credit her for this...

  • @iqnill
    @iqnill 6 місяців тому

    One thing... she's a genius, most of us are not even close :)

  • @akashboinpally4389
    @akashboinpally4389 6 місяців тому

    great video

  • @FeelsOldMan
    @FeelsOldMan 6 місяців тому +1

    Seeing as nobody asked:
    Björk - Ö, between "uuh" & "eeh", and hard rather than soft R.
    You're welcome, Nobody.

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому +1

      thanks, I was aware that I was using the anglicized pronunciation - my Icelandic pronunciation still needs some work!

  • @sonidojamon
    @sonidojamon 6 місяців тому +1

    This was a great video

  • @RosssRoyce
    @RosssRoyce 6 місяців тому

    Good advises! Your voice on vid is too high frequency EQ .

  • @mocreativ
    @mocreativ 6 місяців тому

    i agree. totally. nice video. THX

  • @nkenn-sp4pp
    @nkenn-sp4pp 6 місяців тому +1

    great advice love this

  • @AvvieLanche
    @AvvieLanche 6 місяців тому

    BYÖRK: rhymes with work, Kirk, and jerk. Is Icelandinc for Birch, like the tree

  • @captainmordrum
    @captainmordrum 6 місяців тому

    I relate with just about everything you said.

  • @IvyHawkins
    @IvyHawkins 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you

  • @clashpanda120
    @clashpanda120 6 місяців тому +1

    Love that you highlight the distorted drums used on this album, love that sound, although what effects was it to achieve it? Is it overdrive? It’s the sound on 5 Years, All Neon Like and All is Full of Love (Single Version).

    • @scottlarock7924
      @scottlarock7924 6 місяців тому +1

      I can't say that this works exactly, but I've had interesting results using something forment shifting on drums. Shout out the free version of interpitch from graillon.

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому +1

      @clashpanda120 I'm going to simplify it a bit, but if you start with a basic 909 drum kit like I did, its a combination of pitch shifting the kick sample for each "drum" (even what functions as the snare is the kick sample in this example) and adding a few different distortions and using bit reduction. You can also split it up into different layers for "top" and "bottom", and modify this basic chain with EQs and whatever else you like to get it sounding pleasing and not too harsh!
      The main components that will get you the bulk of the sound are EQ-distortion-bit reduction - EQ though

  • @eyoung1683
    @eyoung1683 6 місяців тому

    The first rule is there are no rules
    The second rule is trickier

  • @Fenilee
    @Fenilee 6 місяців тому

    Great video topic

  • @idespisegravity
    @idespisegravity 6 місяців тому

    Doom scrolling in the 90s.... I mean, I guess we kinda doom scrolled on LimeWire? That's about the closest approximation I can think of 😂

    • @cuppychupsclassroom
      @cuppychupsclassroom  6 місяців тому

      I read somewhere that every youtube video is allowed one anachronism :P

  • @tapeexperiments
    @tapeexperiments 5 місяців тому +4

    So, heres what i got:
    1) Reject all traditional music.
    2) Get Obsessed with guitar Pedals.
    3) The Possibilities of limitations are endless.
    Am I close??

  • @Lord_K_Original
    @Lord_K_Original 6 місяців тому +1

    What about bongos? 😂 Very good.

  • @mwol2011
    @mwol2011 2 місяці тому

    Yeah, every producer should have a "LESS IS MORE" post-it on the monitor. Much of modern music is grotesquely overproduced.

    • @dtango3531
      @dtango3531 Місяць тому

      It depends cause pop and rnb mainstream has such boring production with literally nothing

  • @heyimrika
    @heyimrika 6 місяців тому +1

    love this video!!

  • @simonkormendy849
    @simonkormendy849 6 місяців тому

    Well, honestly, why doesn't every producer put more effort into doing more original stuff rather than stealing/plagiarising from others? no wonder every top 40 song sounds like everything else.

  • @hynjnzz_
    @hynjnzz_ Місяць тому

    Bjork is living proof less can be more

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic 6 місяців тому +1

    her music is much more complex than you, or her leads on. There are often multiple people, and large productions going on. I agree with your work flow, but this as the premise.. nah

  • @michaelbishop8189
    @michaelbishop8189 6 місяців тому +1

    MIDI CHORD PACK hahahahahah

  • @vndrevlves
    @vndrevlves 6 місяців тому

    Awesome!

  • @mimidhof2179
    @mimidhof2179 6 місяців тому

    Good advices

  • @K.KILLORAN
    @K.KILLORAN 5 місяців тому

    I subbed

  • @thalesmatheus6011
    @thalesmatheus6011 3 місяці тому

    ok you're handsome

  • @Dubmayer
    @Dubmayer Місяць тому

    Watching googly eyes for six minutes to learn absolutely nothing! 6 minutes you could have spent with your music!

  • @deletist_
    @deletist_ 6 місяців тому

    ✨🤟👁️❤️‍🔥👁️🤘✨

  • @saturnlizards
    @saturnlizards 6 місяців тому +1

    It's getting out of hand. Sick and tired of these types of videos. Claiming they're about to teach you something about bjork and what not. What you get is mumbo jumbo for 2 minutes and it quickly turns into about them and who they are. Like I care about your personality or bragging. I guess I just don't like sweating somebody. I'm close to ending my UA-cam experience. Throw it in the trash like my Netflix subscription. Never liked stupider things either. I've never had any UA-camr beg me to subscribe, hit the like button and notifications and I actually listened. Not one time did I actually subscribe. The Internet is dead. It's been dead but it will never go away... so I guess I have to

  • @mamasharkk
    @mamasharkk 6 місяців тому

    1 be original