great justice info! Every Virginian needs to be taught the history of the indigenous people in our area and look for ways to help bring justice and make reparations to them and to Black people. Let’s acknowledge our shameful history and work together for justice for all. It saddens me to heat how they have had to purchase land that was stolen from them!
Us so called black are the so called native Americans or Indian….those $5 Indians need to get off our sacred lands and you guys need to to back to Europe so we can live in peace and harmony like we did before u tried to wipe us out and steal out birthright to our lane, we are natural organic beings of this land and you are not, y’all need to be where they found you guys In the Caucasus mountains
(Pi:ląhuk. Nahą:pipi Charles mįkilá:kewa. Raleigh, NC watí:wa. Míma Monacan Yesą.) Thank you. Good day. My name is Charles. I live in Raleigh, NC. I am of the Monacan people. Thanks Ladies and Dr. Hantman!
You'll probably need to investigate the "Stapleton" area of Amherst County, along route 622, west of Allens Creek (down from Gladstone, Nelson County) for your Pinn ancestors.
I'm as academia calls a rouge amateur archaeologist aka looter, however I never dig and only search sites being destroyed or threatened. This rouge looter a couple months ago discovered a significant Monacan Ceremonial Complex, burial ground(maybe a mound), and perhaps even more. There was likely a 19th century structure nearby. Aerial view of adjacent property it's possible several effigy mounds exists and they are shaped how gods and goddesses are portrayed on stone, bone, wood, walnut shells, ceramic items, what I believe are copper items (not tested), and points. Sites initial habitation is probably early archaic according to point types, but lasted into colonial contact. I figure 1742/43 per sources. Oh real quick outlines shown at 20:40 appear to be shaped like the spirit gods as seen on most recovered items. It is seen again on left pottery at 35:53. Ogee god of underworld , the Great Hare a rabbit, a female divinity are easily seen. I basically know what 5 gods look like, but can only name a few. Gods are same as Powatan's. They are always in a similar pose. Two and two, two tall and 2 short on left and right facing each other. 2 shorter ones are often seen kissing with 2 taller occasionally kissing or biting faces. Ogee always overshadows. Information is hard to come by with no images seemingly available, only some attributes and names. No disrespect, but I must conclude archaeologist have not realized the full extent of pictographs and petroglyphs that exist at sites, Even quartz, yes quartz and finely sculpted. Now it did take me over 30 years to realize, and had I not found a few caches of decorated and carved bone in June 2022 I wouldn't have noticed. I am aware quartz can contain petrified fossils in my area, be assured this is not the case. Btw, I'm former FBI certified hostage negotiator, senior emergency communications officer, emt and trained observer. What I am proclaiming I know sounds too good to be true, but for once it is. There are other things going on which confirm and 2 independant and separate confirmations from trusted sources. I've studied way more than my wife likes, and more than I care to admit, but I had to crack what was I was seeing. There are stellas, sculptures with quality equal to any great ancient civilization. It took some time to realized what was going on because honestly I'd never seen anything like this in 36 years of doing this. Once realized, I ceased artifact hunting and contacted Virginia Department of Historic Resources, several times including again today!!Northern division, and initially spoke with state director Moore. Site is currently threatened, and until 25 years ago it was 100% intact. Now a home with basement, two car garage and fenced area over possible mound with dog penned digging and bringing well preserved artifacts to surface. Elaborately carved and decorated wood totems and pillars. Some are carved with bark figures attached which were placed over exact carvings giving a 3 dimensional appearance. All fire hardened with limited information it is possible a fire occurred as some pieces are pure charcoal still remaining in original design. Site is remarkable and even with more recent construction it is mainly intact. I can't seem to get owner to understand that dog needs moved. I even offered, I will deny up and down I said this lol. Again it is remarkable, seems encased in an enhanced clay of sorts. Soil is extremely difficult to break up, and it contains unfired clay figures. 25 years after home built and around foundations chunks of unbroken soil still remain. There are also what I can only call mosaics in form of warrior with animal skin headdress. Stones are placed and ok ne near side door is hold a totem either completely clay or soil has filled area where wood once was. I discovered while landscapeing and covered it back up alone with holes in dog pen. I did recover as much as possible fir preservation. I wish I wasn't forced to do this, but had no choice with dog. Also, I was told site has been family's possession for generations and until now they were clueless, how could you know?? The oak trees surrounding main burial section are at least several hundred years old. Artifacts are everywhere, and all are ceremonial in nature including points. There are decorated and painted walnut shells, peach shells, acorns, bone, beads, pieces of oyster shell, wood, small to large sculptures everywhere, and a thick wool like material occasionally comes to surface. Many depict a mother holding her child, burial scenes, and scenes with human sacrifice (I know touchy subject, but no one today is responsible), and sun god with Native throwing up gold, with gold color. Site is not far from Rapidan River in Orange County that's all I'm saying for now. We would like someone to come, it would be welcomed so much. My wife, son and I are residing here until house is finished. Sorry for being so long winded, but it's a beautiful site. One last thing, the white man has forgotten, but the respectable 1st Nation peoples have not. First Nation people will know what I mean 😉 First Nation people, from my heart I am deeply sorry for what my European ancestors did to you.
My Mother was a Johns and I have a relative that told me he traced our roots back to the Monicans. He is now deceased so I can’t speak with him. I would love to find out my connection with you. My mother also had some cousins by the name of Hicks.
My last name is johns and I just did research and found out that lots of my relatives are Monacan. It's crazy that my last name is so well known with such an amazing history.
Such ignorant and racist comment. Alotta tribes such as this tribe and others around this area were decimated by either war with Europeans or disease. Some tribes smaller than the Monacan were nearly wiped out. The only other option was to intermarry with Europeans or Slaves because that's all there was at that time. When your tribe and nation is all but destroyed where do you go??? Just lay down and die somewhere?! Well most people chose to move to forward and start new lives in the new world they found themselves in. So yes, many natives are mixed with both whites and blacks as a result, because that's what new world was made up of now.
I see a lot of dolls roll aka $5 lol lol lol lol talkin about goin back to the original lol lol dam sure didn’t look like no o e on this whole dam live lol lol lol lol lol keep doin u keep beliving in the lie n dam British subject lol lol
Thank you, I am lost on where I come from this helps. In my family. I am in the 1800
i am an unenrolled monacan descendant....surname: Beverly ancestors on record back a few centuries
Thank you! I am a Branham descendant ‼️
great justice info! Every Virginian needs to be taught the history of the indigenous people in our area and look for ways to help bring justice and make reparations to them and to Black people. Let’s acknowledge our shameful history and work together for justice for all. It saddens me to heat how they have had to purchase land that was stolen from them!
Us so called black are the so called native Americans or Indian….those $5 Indians need to get off our sacred lands and you guys need to to back to Europe so we can live in peace and harmony like we did before u tried to wipe us out and steal out birthright to our lane, we are natural organic beings of this land and you are not, y’all need to be where they found you guys In the Caucasus mountains
Indigenous- reclassified- Coloureds
Blk-. ALL THE SAME PEOPLE.
CUT THE NEVER ENDING DAMN CHECKS
Not “and to” the black people. Are the black people
(Pi:ląhuk. Nahą:pipi Charles mįkilá:kewa. Raleigh, NC watí:wa. Míma Monacan Yesą.)
Thank you. Good day. My name is Charles. I live in Raleigh, NC. I am of the Monacan people.
Thanks Ladies and Dr. Hantman!
Interesting 🤔 thank you for sharing this with the masses♥️
I am a descendant of the Pinns. I have been looking for some information about the Monacan Nation and what happened with my ancestors
You'll probably need to investigate the "Stapleton" area of Amherst County, along route 622, west of Allens Creek (down from Gladstone, Nelson County) for your Pinn ancestors.
Beverly, Pinn, is all I know, waiting to see what else I can learn
This is also the names of my descendants!
@@leotajackson5602 my cousins are pinn till this day
@@leotajackson5602 u on ancestrydna
@@leotajackson5602 are you on ancestrydna?
I'm a granddaughter of Frances John's from Amherst VA..
Recently found out this was my ancestor as well.
I'm as academia calls a rouge amateur archaeologist aka looter, however I never dig and only search sites being destroyed or threatened. This rouge looter a couple months ago discovered a significant Monacan Ceremonial Complex, burial ground(maybe a mound), and perhaps even more. There was likely a 19th century structure nearby.
Aerial view of adjacent property it's possible several effigy mounds exists and they are shaped how gods and goddesses are portrayed on stone, bone, wood, walnut shells, ceramic items, what I believe are copper items (not tested), and points. Sites initial habitation is probably early archaic according to point types, but lasted into colonial contact. I figure 1742/43 per sources. Oh real quick outlines shown at 20:40 appear to be shaped like the spirit gods as seen on most recovered items. It is seen again on left pottery at 35:53. Ogee god of underworld , the Great Hare a rabbit, a female divinity are easily seen. I basically know what 5 gods look like, but can only name a few. Gods are same as Powatan's. They are always in a similar pose. Two and two, two tall and 2 short on left and right facing each other. 2 shorter ones are often seen kissing with 2 taller occasionally kissing or biting faces. Ogee always overshadows.
Information is hard to come by with no images seemingly available, only some attributes and names.
No disrespect, but I must conclude archaeologist have not realized the full extent of pictographs and petroglyphs that exist at sites, Even quartz, yes quartz and finely sculpted. Now it did take me over 30 years to realize, and had I not found a few caches of decorated and carved bone in June 2022 I wouldn't have noticed. I am aware quartz can contain petrified fossils in my area, be assured this is not the case. Btw, I'm former FBI certified hostage negotiator, senior emergency communications officer, emt and trained observer. What I am proclaiming I know sounds too good to be true, but for once it is. There are other things going on which confirm and 2 independant and separate confirmations from trusted sources. I've studied way more than my wife likes, and more than I care to admit, but I had to crack what was I was seeing. There are stellas, sculptures with quality equal to any great ancient civilization.
It took some time to realized what was going on because honestly I'd never seen anything like this in 36 years of doing this. Once realized, I ceased artifact hunting and contacted Virginia Department of Historic Resources, several times including again today!!Northern division, and initially spoke with state director Moore.
Site is currently threatened, and until 25 years ago it was 100% intact. Now a home with basement, two car garage and fenced area over possible mound with dog penned digging and bringing well preserved artifacts to surface. Elaborately carved and decorated wood totems and pillars. Some are carved with bark figures attached which were placed over exact carvings giving a 3 dimensional appearance. All fire hardened with limited information it is possible a fire occurred as some pieces are pure charcoal still remaining in original design. Site is remarkable and even with more recent construction it is mainly intact. I can't seem to get owner to understand that dog needs moved. I even offered, I will deny up and down I said this lol. Again it is remarkable, seems encased in an enhanced clay of sorts. Soil is extremely difficult to break up, and it contains unfired clay figures. 25 years after home built and around foundations chunks of unbroken soil still remain. There are also what I can only call mosaics in form of warrior with animal skin headdress. Stones are placed and ok ne near side door is hold a totem either completely clay or soil has filled area where wood once was. I discovered while landscapeing and covered it back up alone with holes in dog pen. I did recover as much as possible fir preservation. I wish I wasn't forced to do this, but had no choice with dog.
Also, I was told site has been family's possession for generations and until now they were clueless, how could you know?? The oak trees surrounding main burial section are at least several hundred years old. Artifacts are everywhere, and all are ceremonial in nature including points. There are decorated and painted walnut shells, peach shells, acorns, bone, beads, pieces of oyster shell, wood, small to large sculptures everywhere, and a thick wool like material occasionally comes to surface. Many depict a mother holding her child, burial scenes, and scenes with human sacrifice (I know touchy subject, but no one today is responsible), and sun god with Native throwing up gold, with gold color. Site is not far from Rapidan River in Orange County that's all I'm saying for now.
We would like someone to come, it would be welcomed so much.
My wife, son and I are residing here until house is finished. Sorry for being so long winded, but it's a beautiful site.
One last thing, the white man has forgotten, but the respectable 1st Nation peoples have not. First Nation people will know what I mean 😉
First Nation people, from my heart I am deeply sorry for what my European ancestors did to you.
CUT THE CHECK,
on your way OUT!
🤔
My great grandmother sername is Branham
My Mother was a Johns and I have a relative that told me he traced our roots back to the Monicans. He is now deceased so I can’t speak with him. I would love to find out my connection with you. My mother also had some cousins by the name of Hicks.
My last name is johns and I just did research and found out that lots of my relatives are Monacan. It's crazy that my last name is so well known with such an amazing history.
Just found out this history Mann! My great great grandmother was Cherokee my mother said but I think Monacan but wasn’t the both tribes allied.🤦🏽😁
I am johns family ,my last name is wright , johns and duff is my family. I would love to know the tung
You say we....are you ladies 5 dollar Indians??? Because the Natives were not Caucasian...at ALL!!
pretty sure over time only the Euro hybrid got the credits and certificates. The rest were harmed, alienated, vanished from the records
Do you have Monacan Heritage? 😃 Just curious and come in peace.
@@Ambracita Native Black Virginians are the descendants of the "Native American" tribes of Virginia
@@HinduBoy Not vanished at all. Just reclassified as "Coloureds"/ Mulatto/ AA
Such ignorant and racist comment. Alotta tribes such as this tribe and others around this area were decimated by either war with Europeans or disease. Some tribes smaller than the Monacan were nearly wiped out. The only other option was to intermarry with Europeans or Slaves because that's all there was at that time.
When your tribe and nation is all but destroyed where do you go??? Just lay down and die somewhere?! Well most people chose to move to forward and start new lives in the new world they found themselves in. So yes, many natives are mixed with both whites and blacks as a result, because that's what new world was made up of now.
My ancestors come from the Johns, Branhams and Masons they were all Monacan
I see a lot of dolls roll aka $5 lol lol lol lol talkin about goin back to the original lol lol dam sure didn’t look like no o e on this whole dam live lol lol lol lol lol keep doin u keep beliving in the lie n dam British subject lol lol
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So they mentioned Walter Ashby Plecker. I am assuming that they were misclassified as negro, black, colored or mulatto. LOL.
😂 don’t look like the were lol
My family is a descendant and they were reclassified as free colored on some records and mulatto on others