Konami vs. Yamaha - what's the difference of this sound chip?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- I think Yamaha is the best hardware competition, but again, Konami VRC7 loses, and it's nothing worth for me...
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Coffee zone honestly sounds better with quantization noise
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@@davidegan-notforgivenmean idiot.
Fun fact : bit of quantization noise doesn't matter cuz old speakers also sound like crap
idk, I got a set of 40 year old speakers that sound pretty damn good
You haven’t heard many old hi fi speakers, have you.
@@bradallen8909 yeah i have that and sounds cool but most speakers are made in china
To a point, old high end speakers can sound incredible if they where high end at the time.
@@marisakirisame867 Yeah, these days. "Old speakers" that are of good quality would be manufactured in Europe or the USA to a much higher standard than the Chinese crap.
VRC7 has quantization noise, but it fits the song imo
yeah I like the sound of the quantization noise a lot, the yamaha sounds sterile in comparison
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The quantization noise kinda adds an additional overtone to the chord, which makes it sound way better.
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VRC7 is a YM2413 OPLL Clone and it was used on Lagrange Point (NES Famicom)
YM2413 OPLL was used on SEGA Mark III, Japanese SEGA Master System, MSX, MSX2, MSX2+, MSXTurboR
not exactly a clone, but really just a barebone ym2413, but yeap !
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VRC7 Wins in my opinion,
The quantization noise works really well
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Lmao i immediately recognised what song this is after the first chord, interesting video!
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Original poster here!
Calling the original chip "Konami" doesn't really tell the full story - both are Yamaha chips. The VRC7 is an even more cut down version of the YM2413, itself a cut down version of the YM3812.
The reason that VRC7 patches work at all on the SMAF series is due to their OPL lineage, the same can be said for OPL2 and OPL3 patches to an extent.
I know. People would really think that Konami isn't just the full story, but everyone talks about VRC7 where it sounds so good than some sort of Yamaha sound chip.
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Both are FM synthesizer chips made by Yamaha, Konami simply used it for their VRC7 (to the pedants among the crowd it is a Yamaha DS1001)@@opptweets4143
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It's better to compare it with the YM2413 instead of a SMAF chip, as the VRC7 is simply a more corner-cut version of the YM2413.
Yeah. I feel like it'd be a fair competition. (I think I used the right word)
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is it just me or do people not really notice how the NES chip does play a static noise at the start?
Quantization noise
It's really easy to notice
@@snesmocha no, the song uses the NES noise channel at the start
My neurons activated when I heard Coffee Zone lol
Coffe zone
Coffee zone is just one of those tracks you hear once and always remember, like I don’t remember the last time I listened to that era of FOD but just hearing the chords immediately registers as Coffee Zone. Goes to show how great of a composer FOD is!
slightly surprising to see so many fellow coffee zone enjoyers in this comment section, oh man those chords are so recognizable though
WHAT DID YOU SAY? COFFEE ZONE? THAT DOESN'T EXIST! BE A HALF WHITE BREAD YOU CANADIAN BACON AND I WILL
damn playing those two notes sounds way more interesting on the konami chip
8bit and 16bit
Yamaha YM2413 is used on MSX
Also Konami sounds more like the Rhodes patch is put thru an amp, so it makes it more interesting
**Circuit** I need to output an 8.7
**FM Tuner** Closest I can do is 9. No decimals.
This creates an inaccuracy in mixing and causes quantization noise.
In another words, this chip's mixer is garbage.
© KYLXBN (Kyle)
that komani VRC7 sounded so much better i grew up with the yamaha piano but dang that konami VRC7 sounds so much better and cooler too
YAMAHA IS WAY BETTER THAN VRC7, SO STOP LYING OR YOU'RE GOING TO PERU
@davidegan-notforgiven I think he is talking about how the quatisization noise gives it more character. Thus in his opinion, he believes it sounds better. So looks like no one is going to Peru today.
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konami chip sounds much more crispier imo and leads to a good sound
I love when it goes aWawawawawawawawa wAwawawawawawawa
You mean to say "wobble wobble" or "crumble crumble" like you step on the ground?
Vrc7 goes hard
VRC7
coffee zone
vrc7 chip sounds like dpcm
Yes, the VRC7 chip contains a PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) module. The PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) module is responsible for encoding and decoding digital audio sampled at a particular sampling frequency. Definitely, I don't talk about DPCM, so there's PCM.
@@opptweets4143 Thank you!
@@opptweets4143isn't the VRC7 a memory mapper with really cool features plus a cut-down OPLL core? I've heard you can do PCM on the VRC6 though
vrc7 has quantization noise because its dac is complete shit
Covfefe zone
Although the "Covfefe Zone" feature was highly innovative for its day, it was also prone to producing unintentionally humorous results. I think you have a great day to see you!
Always found it wierd that covfefe zone had 3 acts instead of the usual 2.
konami better
0:10 Nobody:
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Mac OS X 10.0-10.2 Intro
umm aftually its the start of "The Coffee Zone" by Fearofdark :nerd
@@Iouie_ i guess fearofdark took inspiration from the osx intro :D
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@@floppa-films.coolguy yea
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