Speaking from 30+ years of experience, I can tell you that the NUMBER ONE RULE IN MANUFACTURING IS THAT 'VARIATION KILLS QUALITY'. Hence, its a GOOD THING that the case for the Mini has not changed in 10+ years. Also, using the same materials for multiple platforms (aka: products) saves money due to economies of scale. Yeah, its kind of boring, but lets just roll with it :)
"If it ain't broke, why fix it?" as they say, apparently! Seriously, it's become a design classic, and what about it needs redesigning? It is easily adequate enough for the current chipset, so until the chips require more cooling that could be practicably done in the current case, i doubt it will change. Would be nice for a Space Grey, or Midnight version, though.
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Thank you, Luke! I'm looking forward to more coverage on the M2 Pro and M2 Max devices! I really appreciate you opening up the devices and revealing (and explaining) what we're paying for!
Thank you, Luke. This looks like solid engineering - I'm less concerned about thermals after seeing the heat sink cover and channel. One question, has Apple made any changes to the Bluetooth antenna? There were some reports of Bluetooth dropouts in earlier Mini designs, perhaps this has been improved along with the BT 5.3 update.
I guess it really depends on your priorities, slower read right speeds, slightly faster CPU depending on the use case. I would be tempted to look at a refurbished model from the last generation personally if I was in the market
I was thinking the same thing, but the Studio does outperform the Mini, especially when comparing (almost) apples to apples specs. The Studio can also be purchased at Costco for $1699, making it one hell of a bargain.
This M2 Pro Mac Mini ticked all but one of the checkmarks on my wish list. HDMI 2.1, Check! 512Gb storage, Check! 16Gb Ram, Check! The higher powered headphone jack, Check! Space Grey color option to differentiate it from the regular Mac Mini, No Check! $1,300 dollar U.S. base price, Check! 5 out of 6 items I had on my wish list ain't bad! I look forward to getting mine soon!
actually curious about your thoughts about a max mac mini (full cores, 32GBRAM) vs a base Mac Studio (binned m1max with 32GBram) For video editing, which would you say is the better one. They are prices almost exactly the same, as you said.
Nice video I really wanted to see the arrangement of the NAND, my only outstanding question is how many NAND chips the 1TB config has (eg. 4No. 256GB or 2No. 512GB)
If i order 2TB, will that mean 8 chips of 256GB, or will they just use 4 chips of 512GB. The read write speeds would be way faster for 2TB if that meant 8 256GB. What have you heard? Can you test or link to a test that compares SSD speed for 2TB vs 4TB vs 8TB? Most Detailed review of motherboard yet of Mac Mini M2 Pro. Thanks!
it looks like for the 512GB model, there is only one NAND chip as well (according to a you tube video by elevated systems. so for 2TB, they may only populate one side of the Motherboard with 4 512GB nand, and for 4TB they may either choose 4 1TB chips to only populate one side of mother board, unless price of nand cost more than price to place more chips. so i guess only the 8TB model has all 8 spots filled. i wonder what the performance is 8tb vs 4tb, that would answer if any difference, is there a test out there for that?
Thanks luke, interesting to see the evolution of the components here, Apples industrial design has become very static. A bit more light on these dark components for the disassembly would be helpful for the video.
*** OUTSIDE THE BOX *** Can the case be swapped Mac m1/2 with 2018 - A space grey M1 Mac mini -External OS/Boot drive better to use than internal ssd? Samsung x5 Thunderbolt vs internal?
These Mac’s suck ass. I’m going wait till M3 or even the M5 come out since I have a desktop & a laptop that are hella fast anyways.. I could edit all my pornography & porno movies easily with FinalCutPro.
What are you talking about 9to5Mac - tore it down and SDD is worst than M1, in many instances and In a few faster. But nowhere near M1 Max - why deceive people ?
After researching my options, I bought the M2 pro mac mini with 32gb ram as a work from home design machine and its handled everything I've thrown at it so far. I wonder now if I needed the performance for my use casse but at least it should be future proofed! Great little silver box, has flawlessly replaced my 2008(!) Mac(Hack)Pro I was running, even though I can't run 5 hard disks on it as cleanly haha
So, there is something curious. I just bought an m1 pro macbook pro 14, base model. I ran black magic disk and my read and write were consistent between 4,5 and 5GB/s (it ran for about 1 minute). So if your m2 pro mac mini get only 3 GB/s it means it is way slower than first generation. Could you make a comparisson between base 14 m1 and m2? I would be really interested to see if the results will show a slower, faster or equal speed for the SSD (and also some other real world tasks like reandering video speed, copy 40-50 GB folders, exporting big photos, opening big apps like davinci resolve...and so on)
I just love how beautiful Apple devices are even on the inside - something most people will never see. Knowing my devices are so well made makes them feel that much more special.
L2 cache for M2 Pro is 36 MB & L2 Cache for M1 Max is 24 MB which gives an upper hand in GPU performances when It comes to 3D applications for M2 Pro. M1 Max has an advantage of expanding upto 64GB of RAM while M2 Pro is capped to 32 GB of RAM .If I have to, I probably might go with M2 Pro for my use case scenario.! Awesome video , Great tear down , Thanks 🙏🕊 I had a great time watching this video :)
Luke, there is a benefit to anodising a heat sink Black even when it can’t be seen. It improves its efficiency. I found this out when specifying a heat sink for a work project.
Thanks a lot for the review. What SSD size should one buy in order to have the best SSD R/W performance. If 512gb with 2 NAND chips reaches 3000, would 1tb give 6000? Is there anyone there who owns a MM M2 Pro with 1tb to test the speed ?
The extra cables connect to power supply should be PS_ON, Power good signal and/or some remote. The big connection clearly is just ground and power so they need these signal have other route.
Please don’t touch the motherboard, even though it’s fine, but you don’t poke on mona lisa painting, this motherboard is a state of the art! Where we could find another motherboard design like Apple did.
I feel like there is no middle ground in users for this machine. There is the basic user, mail, office, browsing, even the M1 macs are overkill for that. Than we have the casual digital musician or photo/video editor, 1 FHD vid per week, don’t care about export times, here the M1 is still plenty. Then we have the professionals, the UA-camrs and film companies. For the first one it’s the Mac Studio and for the later it’s the Mac Pro. I can’t think of a person that the M1 is not enough for but then it’s not professional so the budget for a Mac Studio/pro is so easily spent because of ROI basically instant. Pls tell me, what does a normal person need to do to need a M1/2 pro chip for, where the M1 is not enough and where I’m not counted a professional where I earn money with the computer and have instant ROI…
I'm super happy to see that it has dual NAND chips, I saw on another channel that the regular M2 only had 1 and was HALF the speed that you got. I still want a desktop Mac and the M2Pro mini will probably be it unless the Mac Studio stays at the same price for the M2... which I doubt.
That was great. Loved the quick teardown. I completely agree on this being a game changer. Particularly the base model. The additional cost from a similarly configured M2 w/ 512 GB SSD and 16 GBs of Ram is only $300 for 50% more Performance CPUs and 60% more GPUs as well as 2 more Thunderbolt 4 ports and a better cooling system. What is really game changing though, is for almost anybody, this is all you need to run even high end professional software. You can add additional storage if you need it, but you really want 512GBs on your boot drive. 8 GBs works for memory, but heavy workloads will cause swapping - 16 GBs, however, given MacOS memory management, really is all you need for almost all tasks. This machine is right in the sweet spot (unless you need portability).
Okay, that was very interesting, thank you! Idea for next video: investigate a way to mount the Mac Mini M2 Pro components inside the body of a 2018 SPACE GREY Mac mini. That would be a dream, but I'm not sure it's possible because of the placement of the screws that secure the motherboard to the shell. Unless your usual magic touch can find a way? 🤔
Great video!!!! Are you using an iMac as a monitor with this machine? What model of external monitor would you recommend purchasing wihtout beaking the bank? All the best
@@dackel4253 maybe to further clarify this a bit. You want a cooler/heatsink to absorb and radiate heat as that is its intended purpose :). Hence, white would not be as efficient, because as you say, it is less efficient in absorbing heat/energy.
Hello Luke and thank you for your great review. I would like to ask you if I can use my iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019) as an external monitor for the M2 Pro Mac Mini. Thank you in advance!
I just found your channel and have enjoyed your videos. I like that you don’t give a long boring needless introduction. Most of the time I close or skip through the that part anyway on other channels.
Thanks for the tear down, the max looks great and more future proof (with more RAM and fast SSD) than the base M2 mini. I’ll wait until they start showing up in the Apple refurb store.
Could you please at least put a cloth or some other scratch-preventing mat underneath the Mac?? Watching it on the wood table makes me very anxious, for the table *and* the computer
The board seems compact enough for some neat modding. How about this: A headless gaming PC in a normal case that uses the MacMini to boot into MacOS and streams PC games. No windows, just games
The smallest M2 Pro Mac Mini costs 1.549,00 € (16gb ram, 512mb ssd). With that money you could buy a PC with a i9-13900k, 64GB DDR5 and 2TB of pcie 4 NVME. The SSD would be more then DOUBLE the speed (3gb/s vs 7 gb/s), the Cinebench score would almost quadrouple (12.000 vs 40.000) and you have 4 times the amount of RAM (16gb vs 64gb). Sadly the M2 Pro is rediculously overpriced.
Help a brother out! Do you know if the base model m2 Man Mini is using slower storage in its 256gb ssd, like the m2 MacBook Air? I wanna buy one but will upgrade to 512gb if it means a faster ssd 😅
Hello Luke I have a question 🙋♂️ min 4:50 Mac mini m2 pro has 2 x 256 chip that’s mean they are working in parallel?? That’s right? And how fast can be 2x (times) 256 gb ?? 7k write and read? I’m very interested in this Mac mini m2 pro without upgrade my hard drive
Thanks to you, just bought one, cant complain. Much Much Much Better than the Mac Mini M1 16GB!!! Thank you Luke for the superb review, that’s the reason why I look for your reviews!!!
WHEN IS A PRO NOT A PRO? Luke Apple does not call it the M2 Pro Mac mini. Does not say Pro on the outside of the box like the Mac Pro box. No Mac mini Pro listed on the website. Does not come with a Black Apple Sticker. It is a Mac mini with a M2 Pro SOC chip with a consumer White Apple Sticker inside the box.
I dont understand the use for this... Cant the macbook do everything this thing can but is also portable? If you want to use the macbook as a desktop you can but if you want to use the mac mini portably you cant
Hi, I wish to buy a M2 mini as a desktop computer. I never edit video and I never use application like Finalcut. The M2 pro it's definitely too powerfull for me. But I'm looking for a mac mini that will last 5 years. What do you think of the M2 mini / 512 Gb / 16 RAM ??
While I do agree, that 3GB/s R/W is more than enough for most things in 2023, calling this kind of performance "blazing fast" is misleading. This kind of performance was cutting edge in 2016 or 2017, today it's nothing to write home about.
6:14 Typical UA-camr symptoms: The camera talks back to you. By the way, mac mini sometimes is a nice buy even for Windows users. There can be something good if you have one macOS device, like... building a iOS App with Flutter, Maui or Xamarin Forms. It's only the case for the cheapest one. Once you add some memory, no. What's not good about this is that there's almost no reusable component in the device or even upgrade path. Cinebench score is a little more than what $136 APU can achieve if you goes with outdated Ryzen and do not care some noise and power consumption.
You know, black things radiate more blackbody radiation, so might have a very minute impact on cooling efficiency. Random thought: I wonder what thermal paste they used...
2 questions, does it have 8 performance cores, or only 6 (+4 efficiency)? is the SSD almost 2x slower due to use of just two 250Gig NANDchips instead of four 120Gig dies?
Oh Apple, you crack me up. In the same amount of space as all those NAND flash module pads you could have used a M.2 module. I mean, I don't even care if they used their proprietary SSD connector... that was able to be converted to M.2 module with an adapter board. Guess they got wind of that hack, oh well.
@@petehelme7714 I know, but the video starts saying "everyone is talking about the macbooks except me" when it's pretty much the opposite, I have dozens of mac mini videos flooding my feed atm
Unfortunately, this thing costs almost $400 more in Ukraine. And I would like not the Pro version, but with 24GB of memory. But we don't even have them for sale. I'm using a Mac Mini M1 with 8GB of memory and the memory is unfortunately not enough.
You should have put it back into a smaller case, as Apple should have. Having that huge case in 2023 it’s a bit silly for Apple’s reputation, but hey if they did that they wouldn’t be selling MacBooks that much anymore.
Speaking from 30+ years of experience, I can tell you that the NUMBER ONE RULE IN MANUFACTURING IS THAT 'VARIATION KILLS QUALITY'. Hence, its a GOOD THING that the case for the Mini has not changed in 10+ years. Also, using the same materials for multiple platforms (aka: products) saves money due to economies of scale. Yeah, its kind of boring, but lets just roll with it :)
"If it ain't broke, why fix it?" as they say, apparently!
Seriously, it's become a design classic, and what about it needs redesigning? It is easily adequate enough for the current chipset, so until the chips require more cooling that could be practicably done in the current case, i doubt it will change.
Would be nice for a Space Grey, or Midnight version, though.
Let’s not and say we did. 10+ years is a little ridiculous. Imagine iPhones still looking like iPhone 3G in 2023.
@@IAMLXGEND well yeah but now iPhones cost well over $1,000 up from $500.
And it keeps the server farm mini buyers happy, too.
@@cjc363636 true! I wonder how many of the world's Mac minis are currently rack mounted
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Thank you, Luke! I'm looking forward to more coverage on the M2 Pro and M2 Max devices! I really appreciate you opening up the devices and revealing (and explaining) what we're paying for!
Thank you, Luke. This looks like solid engineering - I'm less concerned about thermals after seeing the heat sink cover and channel. One question, has Apple made any changes to the Bluetooth antenna? There were some reports of Bluetooth dropouts in earlier Mini designs, perhaps this has been improved along with the BT 5.3 update.
i can speak to having a mac mini pro, no issues with BT or otherwise
Hey Luke! Is it true they gimped the SSD on the base-model MacBook Pro as well?!
I guess it really depends on your priorities, slower read right speeds, slightly faster CPU depending on the use case.
I would be tempted to look at a refurbished model from the last generation personally if I was in the market
M2 Pro Mac Mini looks like the machine to get. Pricing one out currently for a new studio setup. =) Thanks for the superb teardown/review, Luke!
I was thinking the same thing, but the Studio does outperform the Mini, especially when comparing (almost) apples to apples specs. The Studio can also be purchased at Costco for $1699, making it one hell of a bargain.
Costco really, got a link? 🤔
This M2 Pro Mac Mini ticked all but one of the checkmarks on my wish list. HDMI 2.1, Check! 512Gb storage, Check! 16Gb Ram, Check! The higher powered headphone jack, Check! Space Grey color option to differentiate it from the regular Mac Mini, No Check! $1,300 dollar U.S. base price, Check!
5 out of 6 items I had on my wish list ain't bad!
I look forward to getting mine soon!
Wonder if case can be swapped with 2018 - been asking for over a year - no-one cares lol
@@colindoyle9876 oh lol that idea had been in my head since the m1 mini came out
actually curious about your thoughts about a max mac mini (full cores, 32GBRAM) vs a base Mac Studio (binned m1max with 32GBram) For video editing, which would you say is the better one. They are prices almost exactly the same, as you said.
the upcoming M2 max :)
Nice video I really wanted to see the arrangement of the NAND, my only outstanding question is how many NAND chips the 1TB config has (eg. 4No. 256GB or 2No. 512GB)
If i order 2TB, will that mean 8 chips of 256GB, or will they just use 4 chips of 512GB. The read write speeds would be way faster for 2TB if that meant 8 256GB. What have you heard? Can you test or link to a test that compares SSD speed for 2TB vs 4TB vs 8TB? Most Detailed review of motherboard yet of Mac Mini M2 Pro. Thanks!
it looks like for the 512GB model, there is only one NAND chip as well (according to a you tube video by elevated systems. so for 2TB, they may only populate one side of the Motherboard with 4 512GB nand, and for 4TB they may either choose 4 1TB chips to only populate one side of mother board, unless price of nand cost more than price to place more chips. so i guess only the 8TB model has all 8 spots filled. i wonder what the performance is 8tb vs 4tb, that would answer if any difference, is there a test out there for that?
Was thinking it was over priced but holy cow its an all new animal and it's pretty complex..... Apples memory upgrades still totally suck ..... $$$
I just bought the base model with 16GB of ram. Hoping it doesn't dissapoint. 🤞
This was great. Love the tear down first test second approach 😂
That was kinda badass. 😂
Thanks luke, interesting to see the evolution of the components here, Apples industrial design has become very static.
A bit more light on these dark components for the disassembly would be helpful for the video.
I hope the Bluetooth on these is improved vastly. Great teardown as always man!
I just did a quick check vs my 2018 mac mini and it does appear improved.
@@Nick-kb6jd same with mine
M2 256 SSD = 💩 trash / 1500 read write
M2 512 SSD = so so / 3200 read write
M2 1 TB SSD = 🔥 / 6000 read write 👀
Such a beautiful engineering work. I don't have apple products, but love watching videos about it
Most companies paint heatsinks black for thermal reasons. I assume this is the same reason Apple painted it black, its not for aesthetics.
No RAM slots, no storage slots... BOOOOO ! Great teardown!
Hey, which thermal paste you used while putting it back?
*** OUTSIDE THE BOX ***
Can the case be swapped Mac m1/2 with 2018 - A space grey M1 Mac mini
-External OS/Boot drive better to use than internal ssd? Samsung x5 Thunderbolt vs internal?
These Mac’s suck ass.
I’m going wait till M3 or even the M5 come out since I have a desktop & a laptop that are hella fast anyways..
I could edit all my pornography & porno movies easily with FinalCutPro.
What are you talking about 9to5Mac - tore it down and SDD is worst than M1, in many instances and In a few faster. But nowhere near M1 Max - why deceive people ?
Here comes the wait for M3 products...
This is great but I am curious does this mean a new M2 Pro Wii?
I wonder why they don't offer it in Space Grey, or change something about it to differentiate it other than specs. Ease of manufacturing I guess.
Luke, how did you use the iMac as a display for the M2 Mac Mini?
Targeted Display Mode
- "No one's ever gonna see it!"
- The around 100k people that will see this video will at least
I hope you reapplied thermal paste.
When you go to a concert but can't get the stamp to wash off of your hand 😉
After researching my options, I bought the M2 pro mac mini with 32gb ram as a work from home design machine and its handled everything I've thrown at it so far. I wonder now if I needed the performance for my use casse but at least it should be future proofed! Great little silver box, has flawlessly replaced my 2008(!) Mac(Hack)Pro I was running, even though I can't run 5 hard disks on it as cleanly haha
So, there is something curious. I just bought an m1 pro macbook pro 14, base model. I ran black magic disk and my read and write were consistent between 4,5 and 5GB/s (it ran for about 1 minute). So if your m2 pro mac mini get only 3 GB/s it means it is way slower than first generation. Could you make a comparisson between base 14 m1 and m2? I would be really interested to see if the results will show a slower, faster or equal speed for the SSD (and also some other real world tasks like reandering video speed, copy 40-50 GB folders, exporting big photos, opening big apps like davinci resolve...and so on)
It likely has to do w the number of ssd modules. If this had two 512 modules, I bet the read/write would almost double, since they’re in a 0 raid.
I just love how beautiful Apple devices are even on the inside - something most people will never see. Knowing my devices are so well made makes them feel that much more special.
Luke, how did you use the iMac as a monitor for the Mac Mini? Can I do this with Macbook Pro?
Try gaming on m2 pro and max
Great teardown just a bit sad to see that though a user could open it it’s not user-upgradable, which is what I love about my two 2012 Mac Minis
Yeah I have an old 2010 MacBook Pro and that was fun to spec out
L2 cache for M2 Pro is 36 MB & L2 Cache for M1 Max is 24 MB which gives an upper hand in GPU performances when It comes to 3D applications for M2 Pro. M1 Max has an advantage of expanding upto 64GB of RAM while M2 Pro is capped to 32 GB of RAM .If I have to, I probably might go with M2 Pro for my use case scenario.! Awesome video , Great tear down , Thanks 🙏🕊 I had a great time watching this video :)
Luke, there is a benefit to anodising a heat sink Black even when it can’t be seen. It improves its efficiency. I found this out when specifying a heat sink for a work project.
I wonder if you can exchange the Space Gray 2018 Mac mini’s chassis with the M2 Pro Mac mini’s chassis? 🤔
+1 (same here!)
I dont think so. The 2 mobo screws in 2018 mini are in the middle of the machine, power supply is different.
I remember the first time, when I saw the Acorn Risc computer. Now I own more or less a successor. 😂 And it is incredible fast.
This is just a 5nm chip. Now, imagine a mac with 1nm chip in the future
7:20 black colour actually radiates a little more heat than pure aluminum
More than enough room for M2 NVME SSD's
I like that Luke starts to talk a lot quicker compared to the older videos. The confidence is now naturally high!
Thanks a lot for the review. What SSD size should one buy in order to have the best SSD R/W performance. If 512gb with 2 NAND chips reaches 3000, would 1tb give 6000?
Is there anyone there who owns a MM M2 Pro with 1tb to test the speed ?
The extra cables connect to power supply should be PS_ON, Power good signal and/or some remote. The big connection clearly is just ground and power so they need these signal have other route.
‘The inside of ours looks better than the outside of theirs!’ - The ghost of Steve Jobs in 2023.
Please don’t touch the motherboard, even though it’s fine, but you don’t poke on mona lisa painting, this motherboard is a state of the art! Where we could find another motherboard design like Apple did.
What quotes! “It’s not that dense in there”….”First thing I like to do is rip it open”! I’ll give you a pass if you are talking about computers😀
I feel like there is no middle ground in users for this machine.
There is the basic user, mail, office, browsing, even the M1 macs are overkill for that.
Than we have the casual digital musician or photo/video editor, 1 FHD vid per week, don’t care about export times, here the M1 is still plenty.
Then we have the professionals, the UA-camrs and film companies. For the first one it’s the Mac Studio and for the later it’s the Mac Pro.
I can’t think of a person that the M1 is not enough for but then it’s not professional so the budget for a Mac Studio/pro is so easily spent because of ROI basically instant.
Pls tell me, what does a normal person need to do to need a M1/2 pro chip for, where the M1 is not enough and where I’m not counted a professional where I earn money with the computer and have instant ROI…
I am surprised that the M2 Pro Mac mini doesn't come in Space Gray. Is a case swap with an Intel model possible?
apple and their shenanigans.if you start customizing the base models, you will end up with price tag of superior base model.
I'm super happy to see that it has dual NAND chips, I saw on another channel that the regular M2 only had 1 and was HALF the speed that you got. I still want a desktop Mac and the M2Pro mini will probably be it unless the Mac Studio stays at the same price for the M2... which I doubt.
Please which channel ?
The lesser the number of NAND chips, the more reliable. Apple uses RAID 0, so if any one of the NAND chips fail, your computer won't boot.
That was great. Loved the quick teardown. I completely agree on this being a game changer. Particularly the base model. The additional cost from a similarly configured M2 w/ 512 GB SSD and 16 GBs of Ram is only $300 for 50% more Performance CPUs and 60% more GPUs as well as 2 more Thunderbolt 4 ports and a better cooling system. What is really game changing though, is for almost anybody, this is all you need to run even high end professional software. You can add additional storage if you need it, but you really want 512GBs on your boot drive. 8 GBs works for memory, but heavy workloads will cause swapping - 16 GBs, however, given MacOS memory management, really is all you need for almost all tasks. This machine is right in the sweet spot (unless you need portability).
Okay, that was very interesting, thank you! Idea for next video: investigate a way to mount the Mac Mini M2 Pro components inside the body of a 2018 SPACE GREY Mac mini. That would be a dream, but I'm not sure it's possible because of the placement of the screws that secure the motherboard to the shell. Unless your usual magic touch can find a way? 🤔
Gaffs tape, or super glue…
Great video!!!! Are you using an iMac as a monitor with this machine? What model of external monitor would you recommend purchasing wihtout beaking the bank? All the best
Seeing you don't using the ifixit lid as a tray for screws is killing me.😢
Heatsinks are often coloured black as it makes them slightly more efficient at dissipating heat. It also looks cool :-)
thats not true, quite the opposite
Im suprised thats the case, i would expect a white cooler to be more efficient since white reflects EM Waves and doesnt absorb the energy / heat
@@dackel4253 If I remember correctly, white is better at reflecting heat (not absorbing it), whereas black is better at absorbing and radiating heat.
@@dackel4253 maybe to further clarify this a bit. You want a cooler/heatsink to absorb and radiate heat as that is its intended purpose :). Hence, white would not be as efficient, because as you say, it is less efficient in absorbing heat/energy.
@@DiIusion That makes sense, thanks
It’s possible that making those heat sink fins black makes heat radiation more efficient as well as looking good.
I did see a video with Larger Storage was getting 74000 write speed, maybe worth a thought. Read was just under 7000.
its crazy this 1300 dollar mac compares to my AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core Processor
I always forget you have an iMac as a display when I come to your channel from anywhere else.
live your vide man you inspired me to make my YT channel keep up the good work:)
Is there still a lithium battery in there somewhere? Great teardown!
Sure enough it will be, but i would not care about it unless you plan to use this Mini PC for over 15 years
do you know how the 2TB M2 Pro config will be populated, will they really put 8x256 on or will they just put 2TB or 2 x 1TB NAND on?
How are your Blackmagic speeds almost double the Max Tech guys who also just did a tear down and also tested the SSD speed. Hmmm
Look for the base M2 if your a student in the US you can get it direct from Apple for 499! If that’s not a steal I don’t know what is.
This is INCREDIBLE, thats empy slots of memory are compatible with iphone nand flash chip, so you can make a 8tb mac mini for 1/4 of the price
Hello Luke and thank you for your great review. I would like to ask you if I can use my iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019) as an external monitor for the M2 Pro Mac Mini. Thank you in advance!
The C H U N G U S
I just found your channel and have enjoyed your videos. I like that you don’t give a long boring needless introduction. Most of the time I close or skip through the that part anyway on other channels.
FINALLY!!! Been waiting for all your vids on these!!!
Desperately waiting for the Luke stand up hour
I love that you’re still doing this. Thanks for showing us how it all works.
looks like you still have the "Club Stamp" on your hand, you scamp
Thank God for a real tear down over all the unboxing videos. Thank you. Need to know the 512GB ssd setup for pro m2.
Thanks for the tear down, the max looks great and more future proof (with more RAM and fast SSD) than the base M2 mini. I’ll wait until they start showing up in the Apple refurb store.
I'm a M1 air user. after testing for my productivity 8gigs not enough for me. next will be M2 mini 16 and 512ssd. hope it soon
Wait a second. I get those read/write SSD speeds on my M1 256GB 16GB RAM mini.
4:04 - DankPods, is that you?! 😂
Definitely come here for the tear downs and Maxtech for the ridiculous spending
Could you please at least put a cloth or some other scratch-preventing mat underneath the Mac?? Watching it on the wood table makes me very anxious, for the table *and* the computer
The board seems compact enough for some neat modding. How about this: A headless gaming PC in a normal case that uses the MacMini to boot into MacOS and streams PC games. No windows, just games
The smallest M2 Pro Mac Mini costs 1.549,00 € (16gb ram, 512mb ssd). With that money you could buy a PC with a i9-13900k, 64GB DDR5 and 2TB of pcie 4 NVME. The SSD would be more then DOUBLE the speed (3gb/s vs 7 gb/s), the Cinebench score would almost quadrouple (12.000 vs 40.000) and you have 4 times the amount of RAM (16gb vs 64gb).
Sadly the M2 Pro is rediculously overpriced.
i wonder if you could upgrade a m1 mac mini to m2 or m2 pro, it kinda worked for the 13in macbook pro, why not with the mac mini?
Help a brother out! Do you know if the base model m2 Man Mini is using slower storage in its 256gb ssd, like the m2 MacBook Air? I wanna buy one but will upgrade to 512gb if it means a faster ssd 😅
What about the comparison everybody talks about?
MacMini m2 pro 32GB vs macStudio m1max 32GB
Hello Luke I have a question 🙋♂️ min 4:50 Mac mini m2 pro has 2 x 256 chip that’s mean they are working in parallel?? That’s right?
And how fast can be 2x (times) 256 gb ??
7k write and read?
I’m very interested in this Mac mini m2 pro without upgrade my hard drive
Thanks to you, just bought one, cant complain. Much Much Much Better than the Mac Mini M1 16GB!!! Thank you Luke for the superb review, that’s the reason why I look for your reviews!!!
WHEN IS A PRO NOT A PRO?
Luke Apple does not call it the M2 Pro Mac mini. Does not say Pro on the outside of the box like the Mac Pro box. No Mac mini Pro listed on the website. Does not come with a Black Apple Sticker.
It is a Mac mini with a M2 Pro SOC chip with a consumer White Apple Sticker inside the box.
I dont understand the use for this... Cant the macbook do everything this thing can but is also portable? If you want to use the macbook as a desktop you can but if you want to use the mac mini portably you cant
Hi, I wish to buy a M2 mini as a desktop computer. I never edit video and I never use application like Finalcut. The M2 pro it's definitely too powerfull for me. But I'm looking for a mac mini that will last 5 years. What do you think of the M2 mini / 512 Gb / 16 RAM ??
While I do agree, that 3GB/s R/W is more than enough for most things in 2023, calling this kind of performance "blazing fast" is misleading. This kind of performance was cutting edge in 2016 or 2017, today it's nothing to write home about.
6:14 Typical UA-camr symptoms: The camera talks back to you.
By the way, mac mini sometimes is a nice buy even for Windows users. There can be something good if you have one macOS device, like... building a iOS App with Flutter, Maui or Xamarin Forms. It's only the case for the cheapest one. Once you add some memory, no.
What's not good about this is that there's almost no reusable component in the device or even upgrade path. Cinebench score is a little more than what $136 APU can achieve if you goes with outdated Ryzen and do not care some noise and power consumption.
You know, black things radiate more blackbody radiation, so might have a very minute impact on cooling efficiency. Random thought: I wonder what thermal paste they used...
2 questions,
does it have 8 performance cores, or only 6 (+4 efficiency)?
is the SSD almost 2x slower due to use of just two 250Gig NANDchips instead of four 120Gig dies?
Oh Apple, you crack me up. In the same amount of space as all those NAND flash module pads you could have used a M.2 module. I mean, I don't even care if they used their proprietary SSD connector... that was able to be converted to M.2 module with an adapter board. Guess they got wind of that hack, oh well.
My man no one is talking about macbooks everyone and their mother is spamming mac mini content right now
Because a lot of people have been waiting for a Mini upgrade, especially an Mx Pro model that can replace the Intel version.
@@petehelme7714 I know, but the video starts saying "everyone is talking about the macbooks except me" when it's pretty much the opposite, I have dozens of mac mini videos flooding my feed atm
Unfortunately, this thing costs almost $400 more in Ukraine. And I would like not the Pro version, but with 24GB of memory. But we don't even have them for sale.
I'm using a Mac Mini M1 with 8GB of memory and the memory is unfortunately not enough.
You should have put it back into a smaller case, as Apple should have. Having that huge case in 2023 it’s a bit silly for Apple’s reputation, but hey if they did that they wouldn’t be selling MacBooks that much anymore.