BYU fan here. Thank you for covering these two schools in the eras that you did cover, they both have taken turns having success. Super excited to see these two in the Big XII together. Lots of great recent history for both BYU and Utah.
I’m from England and have been following college football as best I can for about a decade. I’m going to send this video to my brother who hasn’t been able to get into it because it’s probably the best explanation of the weird championship history of the sport. Keep up the good work man
Until 1998 they were all phony opinion poll championships, that's why they were called "mythical national championships" but everyone has to play along because if you scrap the phony championships, schools like BYU would 💩 themselves since their phony championship is their claim to fame, even though they played a schedule full of bad teams that had a combined record of 63-85. There have been numerous undefeated teams with way tougher schedules that didn't get to claim a championship.
There’s two types of utes fans in this reply section, the ones that think they’re better than everyone, and the respectable football fans who just enjoy the game and the rivalry but also talk a little smack here and there. I like the second fan.
As a Utah fan and alum, seeing the Holy War get more and more recognition is awesome. I'm not sure there's a more heated rivalry in CFB with two schools located so close to each other. It's basically a statewide holiday whenever Utah and BYU play. Everyone watches regardless of who they root for or whether they even care or not. I'm glad Utah and BYU are conference rivals again, and yes that 2012 game would be a great subject for a video. I was there as a kid and that was one of the worst officiating debacles I've ever seen
@@themagicslinky1773 I'm sure UNC-Duke is another level but the Holy War is special. Now that both schools are power conference schools for the first time, it should only get even better
the problem is that, opposed to it being an Us versus Them it's really Us versus Us....we go to Church together, live together, we work together, it splits families....it really is the worst of both worlds.
Man even as a BYU fan I have to agree with you; that 2012 game was absolutely nuts not even counting how it ended, but the finish just blew everything out of the water. Super excited to be in the same conference again and SO GLAD the Big 12 is respecting this rivalry and allowing it to be a yearly thing (cough Big Ten cough).
As a BYU fan living in the state of Utah. Thank you for making this video. The rivalry in this state is truly unique and there’s almost no videos out there that do it justice. Until today! Thank you thank you thank you!!!
It's PATHETIC. These are institutions of higher learning, not sports leagues. But apparently the whole concept of college being for EDUCATION doesn't make sense to you people.
I think a major reason that both the schools in the video didn’t struggle to play up was because they both have a rich history of having good players in the trenches on both sides of the ball. The O-line on offense and front 7 on defense. It explains why an Alabama or Michigan couldn’t just walk in and dominate, because the trenches weren’t one-sided.
Well that and 2008 Alabama was INSANELY OVERRATED...... They beat teams that went a combined 70-79 on the season..... They got gifted a ranking jump by beating supposedly #9 Clemson to start the year, which catapulted #24 Alabama to #13. Fun Fact 2000-2007 Clemson never once won more than 9 games and never once finished in the Top 15 - so you tell me how in the world this team was #9 to start the year? 2008 Alabama is in fact the only team ranked in the Top 10 to have ZERO top 10 wins, and somehow they got ranked #3 in the nation. Bama's sole quality wins from 08 are 11 point road win at #13 Georgia and a 4 point home win over #14 Ole Miss. Georgia went 10-3 and didnt beat a single team till their bowl game (beat #24 Michigan State), Ole Miss went 9-4 losing to a (7-6) vandy, and (7-6) South Carolina, but they did beat Florida by 1 - this team was barely even ranked before bowls......
@@MattBuild4they lost one game by 10 to the eventual national champions (considered one of the best cfb teams EVER). Utah beat them worse 🤣. Make all the excuses you want they were definitely robbed of at least one if not two national championships.
@@MattBuild4 All your number are impressive, but have no real meaning or truth. Numbers & stats can be used to "prove" BYU was the BEST team in '83. But we all know that they were not... though I argued at the time that they should win the NC by the existing criteria. Alabama didn't believe that they had a quality opponent until down 21. Cudos to the Utes for doing that. Alabama did not respect the game or the opponent. Play the game 9 more time and Bama ends up winning the series 8-2, though 7-3 or 9-1 would not surprise me. Your claim that Alabama was "insanely overrated" only means that Utah didn't beat a good team. Is that really what you want to say? 😊
@@davidallred2947 Yes I have no problem in saying that for Utah, because it doesnt really change anything for them - they still had 3 more Top 25 wins besides this Alabama game including other top 10 wins (which Alabama never had). What it really changes is it makes the selection of teams in 08 title even more sus, as Alabama was Florida's SOLE quality opponent, and Oklahoma lost to Texas and shouldnt have represented the B12 in that game.
As a Utes fan I'm honored someone finally brought us up on UA-cam for more than 4 seconds. For too long has the Utah football program practically gone unnoticed. So thank you KTO for showing not just my team some love but MY state some love. As much as I dislike Byu. The rivalry keeps us together in a way. Also BAMA fans your welcome for that butt kicken that led to y'all's dynasty. 😂😂😂
Ute fan as well. During the holy war, my family fights as if we were bitter enemies, not family members. After the game, though, we make up, and nobody better talk trash against either BYU or Utah. Even though Utah and BYU are bitter rivals, we still have each other's backs vs the rest of the college football. We both want to see the other successful.
TCU, BYU, AND UTAH BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. BYU, Y'ALL CAME BACK IN HFN LAST SEASON AND IT WAS FUN RENEWING OUR RIVALRY. UTAH, THE FROGS CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY Y'ALL AGAIN.
Yep! I still remember the Mountain West from back in the early 2000s with those three. Definitely the Mountain West's heyday. Hopefully they can bring the same magic to the Big 12!!
TCU's 1st year in the MW there were controversial victories in both their games at BYU (fumble at the goal line) and Utah that created an instant rivalries. For a number of year each one of those 3 teams had the potential to be BCS busters. Then Utah left for the big leagues (ruining a good thing), followed by TCU, and finally BYU. Now all 3 are in the same conference. This could be fun! It could be.
Good video. Never could stand that big-money bcs-bullschidt. If it was still up to the old big10, we'd all still be watching one big game a year. Like him or not, that's one thing Barry Switzer fought the good fight and won for College Football. Still have a long way to go. Utah is not going to make it easy for what's left of the Big12, but they will make it much better. Best wishes to the SEC and the new Big10, but things are looking pretty good in the Big12.
Honestly it is just so amazing to think how influential both teams have been. The Bama game solidified my fandom of Utah and them making the Pac 12 locked it in for good.
I’m a UNC fan and live a couple blocks down from Lavell Stadium here in Provo. I’ll tell you the football rivalry is INSANE. They both hate each other. Great video! 🙌🏾
@@minuteman101x you clearly never watched a Pitt wvu game … I’d rather watch the same episode of Barney on repeat before I watch Utah beat the shit out of a group of white guys
Don't forget 2021 when Utah outright DECIMATED Oregon, which added enough chaos to an already chaotic season for Cincinnati to become the first Group Of 5 team at the time to make the CFP.
That’s my former Bishop on the right 20:46, Sione Po’uha, played for the Jets, coached for the Utes, Navy, and is now coaching at BYU with his two sons on the team, great man that helped me through a lot of tough times!
@@DaB0ssIsIn Thought the same thing when I saw vai sikahema on the '84 team. He helped one of my mission companions join the church and his son proposed to my sister😂
@@zachrowe6271 I remember when it happened I was listening to the radio broadcast. The pass itself was only a few seconds long but it felt like an eternity
I went to the BYU vs U game in 2021 when I first moved to Provo. Not a BYU student, but a huge BYU football fan since I was a kid. I got to rush the field after the win and it was amazing!! So fun.
One of my friends has a rivalry with her boss. He is very much an in-your-face Utah fan. So she took up BYU colors just to get his goat. For the last 10 years, whichever one win's the holy war, or has the best record if there is no rivalry game, gets to keep their colors up the rest of the year while the other has to take their colors down until college football starts in September. I love these crazy rivalries
"I don't like Utah. In fact, I hate them. I hate everything about them. I hate their program, their fans. I hate everything," Hall said. "It felt really good to send those guys home." “I think the whole university and their fans and the organization is classless," Hall said. "They threw beer on my family and stuff last year and did a whole bunch of nasty things. I don't respect them and they deserved to lose." -Max Hall after BYU beat utah in 2009
Im a byu and Ohio state fan, and man 2021 was awesome because byu won the rivalry game to end the streak then Ohio state beat them in the rose bowl. Literally can’t think of a better scenario for my two favorite teams to beat my least favorite team of all time :)
Umm way over half of Utah fans are LDS too…. It’s the holy war because it’s the college actually started by Brigham young vs the college named after him
Saying Brigham Young is the founder of the U of U is like saying Jack Dorsey is the founder of X. The University of Deseret was founded by Brigham Young, that U is as dead as Twitter.
Being from Utah. Thank you for recognizing this unique situation of football we have here! You covered it all, and just how we thought “wow this is something else no one is gonna experience.”
I’ve been saying this for years, glad someone made a video about it. I think it’s important to recognize the mobility of programs into relevancy before byu. Miami exploded onto the scene without having a big conference. Same with Penn state.
I've been a die-hard BYU fan my entire life and love this video. I'd never really considered that both BYU and Utah affected the way college football is ranked. Very well made video!
That 04 Utah team's featured All-American safety Morgan Scalley, who is next to replace Kyle Whittingham when he retires; just an all-around stacked football team.
So Utah with a gimmick spread offense was going to beat one of the greatest college football teams of all-time? Leinart, Bush, Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, Shaun Cody, Sedrick Ellis, Mike Patterson, Lofa Tatupu against Alex Smith and gimmicks. Utah would have lost by 30+. Urban Meyer predicted that Colorado would win the Pac-12 and make the CFP last season. That's the guy who coached your team. The guy who had to leave Florida because of "migraines" and then proved that he couldn't coach at the highest level in Jacksonville.
@@RobbieStacks90 , Utah would have lost by 30+?? That's not realistic. Both Utah's 2004 and 2008 teams were one of the best teams in the nation for sacks, tackles for loss, and forcing turnovers. Also, both of Utah's offenses in 2004 and 2008 were insanely good. Despite the S.O.S. argument, Utah's 2008-2009 school year team still beat 4 teams who finished the season ranked in the top 25, in addition to Utah going undefeated. Also, Utah and Florida (if they would've played each other that year), it would've been a much closer game that year, because Kyle Whittingham and Urban Myer know each other's strategies from when they used to be on the same coaching staff together at Utah in 2003 and 2004....so they would be evenly matched. After Utah's win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the media interviewed with Urban Myer, (when Urban Myer was the head coach at Florida, at the time), and the media asked him what he would think about the scenario of Utah playing Florida, (if they would've played each other that year), and Urban Myer had a worried look on his face and said- "I don't want to have anything to do with them!"....him implying that Utah is a team that Urban Myer is afraid to go up against, and I think Urban Myer knows that his Florida team would've lost to Utah in that scenario. Utah was the hottest team in CFB that season, and Utah not only beat an Alabama team that was ranked #1 for five straight weeks, (until the SEC championship game, but Utah also beat the same Alabama team, (who just a season later, the majority of Alabama's roster returned for the 2009-2010 season and won the national championship over Texas.....proving that Utah beat a national championship caliber team, in which regardless of what the biased CFB committee said and giving all the recognition to Florida in 08'-09', Utah was arguably just as deserving for a national title, because of being the only undefeated team in the nation at season's end, in addition to Utah beating 4 teams who finished ranked in the top 25. Nobody gave Utah a chance of winning against Alabama, but Utah proved everybody wrong.....the same could've applied for Florida, in which Florida probably would've underestimated Utah, as well, because the Florida players would have likely been cocky just like Alabama was, because they don't take a team like Utah seriously, (despite what Urban Myer would say to the Florida football team prior to a game that big, in that scenario). Also, Utah won against Alabama by 14 points, While Florida beat Alabama by 11 points.....so I believe that Utah would've beaten Florida in a national championship scenario by a field goal, and knowing how good Utah's kicker was at the time, (Louie Sakoda), (who won the Lou Groza award in 2008), would've nailed the game-winning field goal to beat Florida. Also, the fact that Florida lost their own home game to a 9-win Ole Miss team proves that Florida had signs of some weaknesses on their team, and that Florida is not unstoppable. Also, if you look on film, Utah's win over Alabama was more impressive than Florida's win over Alabama. Utah lead and controlled the whole game against Alabama, While the Florida vs. Alabama game was kind of back-and-forth, with both teams taking leads against each other throughout the game, until Florida pulled away with the lead in the 4th qtr. Also, Florida's win over Oklahoma in the NCG was not impressive, as Florida only won by 10 points, in a final score of 24-14. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Florida was way over-hyped. And Utah's defense had so many seniors on that team, and Paul Kruger, Sean Smith, and Stevenson Sylvester would've shut down Tim Tebow and his offense. So if you think Florida and other teams would blow out Utah, you're not realistic. Just watch both of Utah's 2004 and 2008 teams on film, and ALL games they played in, in those two seasons. It's not always about who has the stronger S.O.S. argument; sometimes it's about has the better overall talent and skill as a football team, which Utah definitely had. Another thing I'd like to point out, is that Utah's 2008 QB Brian Johnson was unstoppable. No team in the nation was able to stop Brian Johnson's spread offense, and side passes....he timed the side passes perfectly, and controlled the clock very well with that spread offense, too. Utah was a much better of a team than what people around the nation thought....
Basically the big schools fought to keep the small schools out after BYU got an undeserving title after not beating anybody, but ended up proving even more that smaller schools belong by giving them a stage in the BCS to produce upsets, and because of that failure we now have the CFP
I don't watch sports videos even though I'm a byu fan and this was so entertaining! Keep up this great style and a video on that 2012 game would be awesome!.....it still haunts byu fans with how horrible it was but still awesome.
Absolutely love the graphs from 1980-84 showing the other QBs slowly gaining on BYU's passing numbers. You can see how coaches were taking note and changing their offense!
I loved this video and it’s so cool how seeing how two teams in one of the biggest rivalries were both revolutionary. I feel like if you do a vid of Utah’s 2012 crazy victory you gotta also cover BYU’s victory in 2006. Either way the holy war is known for some of the most insane moments in cfb!
as a cincinnati bearcats fan, i’d love to see a video on the story of the 2021 season, which had us become the first non-power five team to compete for the national championship. this video reminded me a lot of that
Excellent video it's awesome to see the recognition these 2 schools are getting. I grew up going to Cougar games, I was 4 years old when BYU won the National Championship and I remember BYU always having to play either home and home or 2 away and 1 home at BYU. BYU played everyone, Pitt,Texas, Ohio St, Penn St, Notre Dame, Texas A&M, UCLA, FSU, USC, Miami etc. I was there in 1990 when the defending national champions The Miami Hurricanes came to provo and Ty Detmer lit them up here's the stat line 38 -54 406 yds 3 TD 1 Int and BYU won 28-21. Utah has done a hell of a job with Whittingham
The backyard brawl is on the East Coast with West Virginia mountaineers and the Pitt Panthers. This has always been recognized as one of the great rivalries in college football.
I’m not sure if my high school still does it but they used to do a poll for the holy war and the winners would get to leave school early that following week
Although the BYU-Michigan game had a final score of 24-17, BYU handed Michigan 6 turnovers in that game, and only forced a single last-second interception. BYU outgained Michigan by 280 yards. Show me any team that had lost the turnover battle by 5 and still won. Take out all the turnovers, the score could've very realistically been about 49-17. There's also the fact that Bosco was out almost the entire second quarter, and BYU couldn't move the ball with Gabbert. So, effectively, Bosco led the offense to 483 total yards in basically 3 quarters.
@@barryallen3225 Washington was literally offered a spot in the Holiday Bowl and turned it down to play Oklahoma for a bigger bowl payout. Washington chose money over a championship, and now all their fans are butthurt about it. Tough cheese. Only one team finished 13-0 and number 1.
Keeping things in the rivalry, Utah lost the turnover battle by 6 in 2016 and still beat byu. This rivalry has pretty much seen it all haha. Go utes, happy to be back in the same conference, brother.
@@Swooperz11 Utah actually lost it by 3, 6 turnovers vs 3. At no point was Utah 0-6 in the turnover margin in that game. BYU was 0-6 up until the final 2 minutes in that bowl game. Even so, 6 turnovers and a win is impressive. As painful as some of these recent rivalry losses have been, I suppose this is just payback for the 70's and 80's.😅
Awesome to see a video about the teams from my Home state. And yes, Utah sports fans, (yes even a good chunk of the Mormons) want an NFL team. We got MLS, NBA and now a NHL team. We are in contention to get an MLB team. But we would really love to have an NFL team.
@@smyleez San Diego got screwed out of their team, same for St Louis.... San Antonio would totally support an NFL team, plus it's a way bigger market than SLC...
My dad is a life long Utah fan (which made me one too) and he has all kinds of stories, both good and bad, about the holy war. He was at the game that ended three times as well as the famous “AND ITS BLOCKED” game. My favorite is how he talks about the sugar bowl. Apparently, before the game an alabama fan came up to him and his friends and goes “do yall really think you’ve got a chance?” It feels good to prove those teams wrong again and again.
As a diehard Utah fan and someone who has lived in Utah for his whole life for all but two years (yes I served an LDS mission lol) I loved this game. I remember going to school and teachers would have Utah or BYU logos in their windows and would wear shirts all week long. I remember fighting with my friends on who was gonna win the game. I remember when Utah beat BYU 17-16 on a blocked field goal. Man I have so many good childhood memories of the Holy War and to me is easily one of the best rivalries in college football.
BYU fan here. Thank you for covering these two schools in the eras that you did cover, they both have taken turns having success. Super excited to see these two in the Big XII together. Lots of great recent history for both BYU and Utah.
That last game is 100% worth a stand alone video. That was my first big football memory
Man any footage of that game gives me PTSD lol
I watched that game from the airport terminal in Bagram. People probably thought I was having a stroke each time that game "ended"
Any UA-cam links to that game? 🤔
@@Ze_Moose this is the last 5 minutes of game time. ua-cam.com/video/4gXlrjK4cHU/v-deo.htmlsi=cEeIcRp5oT-0F_vQ
@@Ze_Moose ua-cam.com/video/4gXlrjK4cHU/v-deo.htmlsi=cEeIcRp5oT-0F_vQ
Bro has beef with Utah state 😂
@@katherineknapp4370Okay👍
@@katherineknapp4370you’re not funny.
@@katherineknapp4370 no one asked sorry
@@katherineknapp4370 the op was just joking so why you taking it so serious. No wonder OP doesn’t knowledge you
Irrelevant.
I’m from England and have been following college football as best I can for about a decade. I’m going to send this video to my brother who hasn’t been able to get into it because it’s probably the best explanation of the weird championship history of the sport. Keep up the good work man
Definitely the weirdest championship in sports! Voted for and committees Lol.
Until 1998 they were all phony opinion poll championships, that's why they were called "mythical national championships" but everyone has to play along because if you scrap the phony championships, schools like BYU would 💩 themselves since their phony championship is their claim to fame, even though they played a schedule full of bad teams that had a combined record of 63-85. There have been numerous undefeated teams with way tougher schedules that didn't get to claim a championship.
Cool man. Cheers from a Utah grad who is a born'n raised BYU fan.
I love that BYU and Utah are conference rivals again.
Ikr I'm a Utes fan baby!
Wash it down with a little Colorado, great 3 way rivalry potential.
@@ZackFrisbee colorado? 🤣😂
@@Cercy-mj6hkUtes all the way baby!🎉🎉
@@Gpete86 Correct
as a byu fan, i cannot believe the holy war got its own KTO video. i love this
Same lol
Utes all day
@@The_georgerussle_hatergo cougs
Same but Utes fan
There’s two types of utes fans in this reply section, the ones that think they’re better than everyone, and the respectable football fans who just enjoy the game and the rivalry but also talk a little smack here and there. I like the second fan.
As a Utah fan and alum, seeing the Holy War get more and more recognition is awesome. I'm not sure there's a more heated rivalry in CFB with two schools located so close to each other. It's basically a statewide holiday whenever Utah and BYU play. Everyone watches regardless of who they root for or whether they even care or not. I'm glad Utah and BYU are conference rivals again, and yes that 2012 game would be a great subject for a video. I was there as a kid and that was one of the worst officiating debacles I've ever seen
Learning of this rivalry makes me think of NC vs Duke basketball. Just a stone throw away and super heated head-to-heads
@@themagicslinky1773 I'm sure UNC-Duke is another level but the Holy War is special. Now that both schools are power conference schools for the first time, it should only get even better
the problem is that, opposed to it being an Us versus Them it's really Us versus Us....we go to Church together, live together, we work together, it splits families....it really is the worst of both worlds.
Utah fan and alum here too (2000). Go Utes!
Man even as a BYU fan I have to agree with you; that 2012 game was absolutely nuts not even counting how it ended, but the finish just blew everything out of the water. Super excited to be in the same conference again and SO GLAD the Big 12 is respecting this rivalry and allowing it to be a yearly thing (cough Big Ten cough).
2:42 look at the score between michigan and buffalo 😭
😭😭😭
Oh nah 128-0 is crazy
Nah that’s disrespectful
That’s a crime bro 😂
Disrespectful 😂
As a BYU fan living in the state of Utah. Thank you for making this video.
The rivalry in this state is truly unique and there’s almost no videos out there that do it justice. Until today!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
Good luck this year. You’re gonna need it!
It's PATHETIC. These are institutions of higher learning, not sports leagues. But apparently the whole concept of college being for EDUCATION doesn't make sense to you people.
@@PWNAGE703we are gonna be ready 🙌🙌 good luck to as well in the season
@@jbmp1390it’s just a part of the college experience, most of the year it’s about education
Worst title of all time vs two of the best seasons with a title. I like the second one better but I guess it depends
This is exactly the offseason content we crave. Superb work.
I think a major reason that both the schools in the video didn’t struggle to play up was because they both have a rich history of having good players in the trenches on both sides of the ball. The O-line on offense and front 7 on defense. It explains why an Alabama or Michigan couldn’t just walk in and dominate, because the trenches weren’t one-sided.
Shout out to the utah polynesians! 😂
Well that and 2008 Alabama was INSANELY OVERRATED...... They beat teams that went a combined 70-79 on the season..... They got gifted a ranking jump by beating supposedly #9 Clemson to start the year, which catapulted #24 Alabama to #13. Fun Fact 2000-2007 Clemson never once won more than 9 games and never once finished in the Top 15 - so you tell me how in the world this team was #9 to start the year?
2008 Alabama is in fact the only team ranked in the Top 10 to have ZERO top 10 wins, and somehow they got ranked #3 in the nation. Bama's sole quality wins from 08 are 11 point road win at #13 Georgia and a 4 point home win over #14 Ole Miss. Georgia went 10-3 and didnt beat a single team till their bowl game (beat #24 Michigan State), Ole Miss went 9-4 losing to a (7-6) vandy, and (7-6) South Carolina, but they did beat Florida by 1 - this team was barely even ranked before bowls......
@@MattBuild4they lost one game by 10 to the eventual national champions (considered one of the best cfb teams EVER). Utah beat them worse 🤣. Make all the excuses you want they were definitely robbed of at least one if not two national championships.
@@MattBuild4 All your number are impressive, but have no real meaning or truth. Numbers & stats can be used to "prove" BYU was the BEST team in '83. But we all know that they were not... though I argued at the time that they should win the NC by the existing criteria. Alabama didn't believe that they had a quality opponent until down 21. Cudos to the Utes for doing that. Alabama did not respect the game or the opponent. Play the game 9 more time and Bama ends up winning the series 8-2, though 7-3 or 9-1 would not surprise me. Your claim that Alabama was "insanely overrated" only means that Utah didn't beat a good team. Is that really what you want to say? 😊
@@davidallred2947 Yes I have no problem in saying that for Utah, because it doesnt really change anything for them - they still had 3 more Top 25 wins besides this Alabama game including other top 10 wins (which Alabama never had).
What it really changes is it makes the selection of teams in 08 title even more sus, as Alabama was Florida's SOLE quality opponent, and Oklahoma lost to Texas and shouldnt have represented the B12 in that game.
As a Utes fan I'm honored someone finally brought us up on UA-cam for more than 4 seconds. For too long has the Utah football program practically gone unnoticed. So thank you KTO for showing not just my team some love but MY state some love. As much as I dislike Byu. The rivalry keeps us together in a way. Also BAMA fans your welcome for that butt kicken that led to y'all's dynasty. 😂😂😂
I live in Ohio. Everyone in Ohio talks about University of Utah when I bring up that I'm a Ute fan
Ute fan as well. During the holy war, my family fights as if we were bitter enemies, not family members. After the game, though, we make up, and nobody better talk trash against either BYU or Utah. Even though Utah and BYU are bitter rivals, we still have each other's backs vs the rest of the college football. We both want to see the other successful.
BYU fan, hoping for many more close games between us now that we’re in the same conference, although hopefully with a more even split on victories!
BYU Alum here. I’ve always been impressed with Utah. I don’t know which school I prefer, although Utah tends to be less heartbreaking.
im also a Utes fan and I never hear anything about our team
TCU, BYU, AND UTAH BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. BYU, Y'ALL CAME BACK IN HFN LAST SEASON AND IT WAS FUN RENEWING OUR RIVALRY. UTAH, THE FROGS CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY Y'ALL AGAIN.
Yep! I still remember the Mountain West from back in the early 2000s with those three. Definitely the Mountain West's heyday. Hopefully they can bring the same magic to the Big 12!!
TCU rivalry with byu and utah is extremely underrated
TCU's 1st year in the MW there were controversial victories in both their games at BYU (fumble at the goal line) and Utah that created an instant rivalries. For a number of year each one of those 3 teams had the potential to be BCS busters. Then Utah left for the big leagues (ruining a good thing), followed by TCU, and finally BYU. Now all 3 are in the same conference. This could be fun! It could be.
@@livejoyfully6426 TCU left first.
you left caps lock on btw
Listen, politics aside, seeing a young mitch mcconnel is like seeing your teacher outside of school as a kid. Feels weird 😅
Especially a living Mitch who can still talk.
Kile Is better than Aurban Mayer 😅Aurbn Mayer style was one of the worst I have ever seen The way you put the team up North instead of just saying Byu
@@jeppajeppson2900agreed. Kyle may be a snake, but that still doesn’t compare with how Oscar Meyer destroyed the mutual respect in the rivalry.
This stings even more since UK stole Mark Pope from us. 😢
@@LegoKoopa100I’m feeling a lot better about coach Young than I ever did about coach Pope
As a byu fan, this rivalry is so much fun, I'm glad that utah joined the big 12 so we can play them again every year
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@@andrewfilmsdrums 27-7
Good video. Never could stand that big-money bcs-bullschidt. If it was still up to the old big10, we'd all still be watching one big game a year. Like him or not, that's one thing Barry Switzer fought the good fight and won for College Football. Still have a long way to go. Utah is not going to make it easy for what's left of the Big12, but they will make it much better. Best wishes to the SEC and the new Big10, but things are looking pretty good in the Big12.
As a BYU fan I would agree, but those games take years off my life every single time.
(In all honesty though I agree I think it's gonna be fun!!)
This is a big rivalry here. I live 10 minutes south of BYU, as an LSU fan.
GEAUX TIGERS
Same feeling I live 30 minutes west of Provo and I’m a diehard Oregon fan
Springville?
Spanish fork? I live 60 minutes south of byu lol
I'm from baton rouge great GameDay atmosphere
Honestly it is just so amazing to think how influential both teams have been. The Bama game solidified my fandom of Utah and them making the Pac 12 locked it in for good.
I’m a UNC fan and live a couple blocks down from Lavell Stadium here in Provo. I’ll tell you the football rivalry is INSANE. They both hate each other. Great video! 🙌🏾
Damn, this rivalry sounds so much more intense after the beginning😂
@@sportspicks799 it's actually a lot crazier on TV!
Most slept on rivalry in CFB. These two programs are usually both very solid teams and they hate each other!
I grew up there- I’ve never lived anywhere else where the two major football teams hate each other as much as BYU and Utah
@@minuteman101x you clearly never watched a Pitt wvu game … I’d rather watch the same episode of Barney on repeat before I watch Utah beat the shit out of a group of white guys
@@pjmoore4699 okay
Ahh so Iowa not being able to score on offense goes all the way back to 1901, interesting....
Kirk Ferentz was probably coaching back then too lol
Don't forget 2021 when Utah outright DECIMATED Oregon, which added enough chaos to an already chaotic season for Cincinnati to become the first Group Of 5 team at the time to make the CFP.
PAC 12 cannibalism. Nothing special about it.
As an Oregon fan, we always choke it out at the end of every season, just pure pain.
Auburn
Washington twice last season
Utah
Bro I feel you I’m an Oregon fan AND I live in Utah I’ve been hearing bout that crap show for years😭
@@the1minus5Oregon sucks because one of your Old Alumni is the founder of Nike
@@the1minus5 hey, you forgot the arizona state game!
Bro did Utah State dirty 💀
I live in Utah I just found out about them a year ago💀
@@Goofballsports How we have made a bowl game every year since 2011 except 2016 and 2020
@@Jbugnb1 I’m joking I’m just saying that nobody in Utah cares about them. My dad went there so I am sad that they always suck
A lot of people care for them. They just ned to get back and start winning. @@Goofballsports
Utah State vs BYU is the biggest rivalry BYU doesn’t know about
That’s my former Bishop on the right 20:46, Sione Po’uha, played for the Jets, coached for the Utes, Navy, and is now coaching at BYU with his two sons on the team, great man that helped me through a lot of tough times!
Wow, I played rugby alongside one of his boys in I believe 2018 or 2019. So crazy to see how close this whole story really is to some of us.
@@DaB0ssIsIn Thought the same thing when I saw vai sikahema on the '84 team. He helped one of my mission companions join the church and his son proposed to my sister😂
The George game winner in OT is a good choice but it should’ve been Beck to Harline in SLC.
That wouldn't fit in the video its like 45 seconds long lol
Exactly! Top 3 BYU plays of all time. I was there.
Hard to pick between the two. I went mental when we won both those
@@zachrowe6271 I remember when it happened I was listening to the radio broadcast. The pass itself was only a few seconds long but it felt like an eternity
men see a new KTO upload and say hell yeah
hell yeah
Hell yea
Hell yeah brother
Brother, Hell Yeah
Hell yeah
I went to the BYU vs U game in 2021 when I first moved to Provo. Not a BYU student, but a huge BYU football fan since I was a kid. I got to rush the field after the win and it was amazing!! So fun.
Memories.. I’m glad BYU is back to eating rocks 😂
@@ReedJ50ok
@ReedJ50 this aged poorly lmao
One of my friends has a rivalry with her boss. He is very much an in-your-face Utah fan. So she took up BYU colors just to get his goat. For the last 10 years, whichever one win's the holy war, or has the best record if there is no rivalry game, gets to keep their colors up the rest of the year while the other has to take their colors down until college football starts in September.
I love these crazy rivalries
"I don't like Utah. In fact, I hate them. I hate everything about them. I hate their program, their fans. I hate everything," Hall said. "It felt really good to send those guys home."
“I think the whole university and their fans and the organization is classless," Hall said. "They threw beer on my family and stuff last year and did a whole bunch of nasty things. I don't respect them and they deserved to lose."
-Max Hall after BYU beat utah in 2009
“Hey Max, Kruger is still open.”
That was a fun game. I was in the MUSS like always in those days.
I was a freshman at BYU in 84 and in the marching band. It was an exciting year. I was at the Holiday Bowl and it was super exciting.
what did you play?
@@mamaduck1136 Trumpet. I missed the band camp (never was notified) and so the first formation I was stuck in with the horn section.
@@MrChadbag Trumpet are the best 👌
0:24 Your BSU fandom is showing.
Lavell will always be a fucking legend.
Great video, interesting topic!
Pitt being the go-ahead for Utah schools is hilarious. And no way did I think Andy Reid and BYU had anything to do with each other.
Andys’ like the most famous mormon! Ofc he went to byu
@@dsizz76bro is not the most famous Mormon, maybe the most famous Mormon currently in the nfl but that’s it lmao
He played at BYU and then started his coaching career there as a graduate assistant. The rest is history.
Im a byu and Ohio state fan, and man 2021 was awesome because byu won the rivalry game to end the streak then Ohio state beat them in the rose bowl. Literally can’t think of a better scenario for my two favorite teams to beat my least favorite team of all time :)
Returning to this video after a holding penalty and a field goal won BYU the Holy War in 2024. Best rivalry in college football by far
Excellent job of showcasing the information and telling the story. Very impressive.
Umm way over half of Utah fans are LDS too…. It’s the holy war because it’s the college actually started by Brigham young vs the college named after him
True, but also go cry
BFD
Nah around 30-35% of Utah fans are mormon
Saying Brigham Young is the founder of the U of U is like saying Jack Dorsey is the founder of X. The University of Deseret was founded by Brigham Young, that U is as dead as Twitter.
@@rods5569 It’s the same university lol
i would love more CFB Rivalry videos from you I loved this
Being from Utah. Thank you for recognizing this unique situation of football we have here! You covered it all, and just how we thought “wow this is something else no one is gonna experience.”
I’ve been saying this for years, glad someone made a video about it.
I think it’s important to recognize the mobility of programs into relevancy before byu. Miami exploded onto the scene without having a big conference. Same with Penn state.
I've been a die-hard BYU fan my entire life and love this video. I'd never really considered that both BYU and Utah affected the way college football is ranked. Very well made video!
It's been a while since byu has impacted anything in a significant way.
@@bigrod1674 lol thank you for that.
@@bigrod1674sure has impacted the NFL
Lifelong BYU fan here, great video! Super well made. Learned a lot. Thanks!
These have got to be the coolest outros on UA-cam.😎
Love the college football content. Please keep it up idk anyone else doing stuff like this. Really scratching my college football season itch👍
That 04 Utah team's featured All-American safety Morgan Scalley, who is next to replace Kyle Whittingham when he retires; just an all-around stacked football team.
That team should have had a shot for the championship.
@@Number4lead agree, but we all know the greedy fucks who run fbs do not want true parody. Parody is what makes college sports wonderful.
@@Krobscorner2006 parity
So Utah with a gimmick spread offense was going to beat one of the greatest college football teams of all-time? Leinart, Bush, Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, Shaun Cody, Sedrick Ellis, Mike Patterson, Lofa Tatupu against Alex Smith and gimmicks. Utah would have lost by 30+. Urban Meyer predicted that Colorado would win the Pac-12 and make the CFP last season. That's the guy who coached your team. The guy who had to leave Florida because of "migraines" and then proved that he couldn't coach at the highest level in Jacksonville.
@@RobbieStacks90 , Utah would have lost by 30+?? That's not realistic. Both Utah's 2004 and 2008 teams were one of the best teams in the nation for sacks, tackles for loss, and forcing turnovers. Also, both of Utah's offenses in 2004 and 2008 were insanely good. Despite the S.O.S. argument, Utah's 2008-2009 school year team still beat 4 teams who finished the season ranked in the top 25, in addition to Utah going undefeated. Also, Utah and Florida (if they would've played each other that year), it would've been a much closer game that year, because Kyle Whittingham and Urban Myer know each other's strategies from when they used to be on the same coaching staff together at Utah in 2003 and 2004....so they would be evenly matched. After Utah's win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the media interviewed with Urban Myer, (when Urban Myer was the head coach at Florida, at the time), and the media asked him what he would think about the scenario of Utah playing Florida, (if they would've played each other that year), and Urban Myer had a worried look on his face and said- "I don't want to have anything to do with them!"....him implying that Utah is a team that Urban Myer is afraid to go up against, and I think Urban Myer knows that his Florida team would've lost to Utah in that scenario. Utah was the hottest team in CFB that season, and Utah not only beat an Alabama team that was ranked #1 for five straight weeks, (until the SEC championship game, but Utah also beat the same Alabama team, (who just a season later, the majority of Alabama's roster returned for the 2009-2010 season and won the national championship over Texas.....proving that Utah beat a national championship caliber team, in which regardless of what the biased CFB committee said and giving all the recognition to Florida in 08'-09', Utah was arguably just as deserving for a national title, because of being the only undefeated team in the nation at season's end, in addition to Utah beating 4 teams who finished ranked in the top 25. Nobody gave Utah a chance of winning against Alabama, but Utah proved everybody wrong.....the same could've applied for Florida, in which Florida probably would've underestimated Utah, as well, because the Florida players would have likely been cocky just like Alabama was, because they don't take a team like Utah seriously, (despite what Urban Myer would say to the Florida football team prior to a game that big, in that scenario). Also, Utah won against Alabama by 14 points, While Florida beat Alabama by 11 points.....so I believe that Utah would've beaten Florida in a national championship scenario by a field goal, and knowing how good Utah's kicker was at the time, (Louie Sakoda), (who won the Lou Groza award in 2008), would've nailed the game-winning field goal to beat Florida. Also, the fact that Florida lost their own home game to a 9-win Ole Miss team proves that Florida had signs of some weaknesses on their team, and that Florida is not unstoppable. Also, if you look on film, Utah's win over Alabama was more impressive than Florida's win over Alabama. Utah lead and controlled the whole game against Alabama, While the Florida vs. Alabama game was kind of back-and-forth, with both teams taking leads against each other throughout the game, until Florida pulled away with the lead in the 4th qtr. Also, Florida's win over Oklahoma in the NCG was not impressive, as Florida only won by 10 points, in a final score of 24-14. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Florida was way over-hyped. And Utah's defense had so many seniors on that team, and Paul Kruger, Sean Smith, and Stevenson Sylvester would've shut down Tim Tebow and his offense. So if you think Florida and other teams would blow out Utah, you're not realistic. Just watch both of Utah's 2004 and 2008 teams on film, and ALL games they played in, in those two seasons. It's not always about who has the stronger S.O.S. argument; sometimes it's about has the better overall talent and skill as a football team, which Utah definitely had. Another thing I'd like to point out, is that Utah's 2008 QB Brian Johnson was unstoppable. No team in the nation was able to stop Brian Johnson's spread offense, and side passes....he timed the side passes perfectly, and controlled the clock very well with that spread offense, too. Utah was a much better of a team than what people around the nation thought....
Excellent content drop. Well prepared and presented
Excellent video! Only thing missing is how much of the coaching staffs come from the other school, making the rivalry even richer.
The quality and information in these videos is unmatched
rip Utah State, used to have the best logo in utah alongside BYU in the 2000s
I’m a BYU fan, our logo from the early 2000’s was fuckin ugly. I disagree😂
@@BD-1-And-OnlyBrigham Young is blushing with that profanity!
@@sasquatchhunter86 fr 😅
Absolutely not
@@BD-1-And-Onlybro, no. the cougar standing on the mountain is fire and is much better than the generic Y logo they have now
Great thumbnail, the contrast between the two players and the background!!
Basically the big schools fought to keep the small schools out after BYU got an undeserving title after not beating anybody, but ended up proving even more that smaller schools belong by giving them a stage in the BCS to produce upsets, and because of that failure we now have the CFP
Always a banger💯 Keep up the good work my man 💪
I don't watch sports videos even though I'm a byu fan and this was so entertaining! Keep up this great style and a video on that 2012 game would be awesome!.....it still haunts byu fans with how horrible it was but still awesome.
Absolutely love the graphs from 1980-84 showing the other QBs slowly gaining on BYU's passing numbers. You can see how coaches were taking note and changing their offense!
yk it’s a good day when kto posts
I loved this video and it’s so cool how seeing how two teams in one of the biggest rivalries were both revolutionary. I feel like if you do a vid of Utah’s 2012 crazy victory you gotta also cover BYU’s victory in 2006. Either way the holy war is known for some of the most insane moments in cfb!
Utah beating Alabama likely had a massive cascading effect on college football. Saban was ANGRY at that team.
Great content as always!
Born & raised in Utah, this rivalry runs deep. Go Utes.
Go Utes. We might got the same favorite album too
Love this video! I hope you make more college football videos in the future!
You know it’s a good day when KTO uploads another quality video.
My man! Excellent! Well done video of two schools close to my home and heart that bucked the trend and the establishment! ❤
I was at that Utah TCU game. It was cold, rainy and one of my favorite memories of my life.
I got choked up seeing that every time. One of the best moments in program history, pretty cool you were there live.
as a cincinnati bearcats fan, i’d love to see a video on the story of the 2021 season, which had us become the first non-power five team to compete for the national championship. this video reminded me a lot of that
This is why I always love lower level college football tournaments. It actually gives every conference champion a chance at a national championship.
Yes... As a foreigner the bowl logic for the sake of it has no sense.
Too much tradition can kill something.
it's why i started watching FCS football a couple of years ago. every conference has a fair shot
Great video. But for the final BYU scene at the end of the video, you should have used "the answered prayer" play from 2006 - Beck to Harline!
Max Hall hates us😂😂😂
24:12 BYU, UCF, Utah, TCU, Cincinnati and Houston were all once mid major teams that are now in a power 5 conference which is insane
And Louisville and SMU! And didn't both of those Arizona schools once play in the WAC?
Excellent video it's awesome to see the recognition these 2 schools are getting. I grew up going to Cougar games, I was 4 years old when BYU won the National Championship and I remember BYU always having to play either home and home or 2 away and 1 home at BYU. BYU played everyone, Pitt,Texas, Ohio St, Penn St, Notre Dame, Texas A&M, UCLA, FSU, USC, Miami etc. I was there in 1990 when the defending national champions The Miami Hurricanes came to provo and Ty Detmer lit them up here's the stat line 38 -54 406 yds 3 TD 1 Int and BYU won 28-21. Utah has done a hell of a job with Whittingham
That beat at the end is somehow gets me so hyped. But a great vid overall. Utah and BYU basically lived the dream of a CFB 25 Dynasty save.
Fantastic work, great execution of your art.
I’m a recently converted BYU fan and I love their history. One the best QB factory’s around.
Welcome to the 80s - you made it!
You should make a video on UCF Knights 2017 year, and how unique their uptempo and fast offense was! Keep up the great work though, love your videos!
Highlight at the end for BYU should have been John Beck to Jonny Harline 2006.
GOAT football game of my life
Never thought my state would ever get a video from you for any reason
If there is one constant in this universe, is that brothers must roast each other and give each other a hard time. 🤣
I dont know if I am tripping, but KTO videos are starting to feel more and more like Jon Bois videos. I love that, please keep it up
As a Utah fan, thank you for making this video!!!
As a disgruntled guy In the morman sphere of interest, I laughed hard at the intro. Thank you.
The backyard brawl is on the East Coast with West Virginia mountaineers and the Pitt Panthers. This has always been recognized as one of the great rivalries in college football.
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Great video man
man mitch mcconel has been at these positions before i grew up, and i'm 33....turtleneck has been in politics for half a century messing around lmao
Sometime I think they will find his signature in the declaration of independence
Guy is older than time
Excellent video!!!
As a BYU fan. I am so stoked to see this video uploaded
Love the UNF article reference ! Randomly glanced back at the screen and recognized several
names and the digital commons 😂🎉🎉
I’m not sure if my high school still does it but they used to do a poll for the holy war and the winners would get to leave school early that following week
Fantastic doc dude
As a childhood BYU fan, and now Utah alum, I’m happy to see these stories told. Thank you!
fantastic video!
All hail Alex Smith
He was so good that year. I don't think ANY team could beat us. We were just this unstoppable murder machine.
Great video!
Although the BYU-Michigan game had a final score of 24-17, BYU handed Michigan 6 turnovers in that game, and only forced a single last-second interception. BYU outgained Michigan by 280 yards. Show me any team that had lost the turnover battle by 5 and still won. Take out all the turnovers, the score could've very realistically been about 49-17. There's also the fact that Bosco was out almost the entire second quarter, and BYU couldn't move the ball with Gabbert. So, effectively, Bosco led the offense to 483 total yards in basically 3 quarters.
Washington was the better team.
@@barryallen3225 Washington was literally offered a spot in the Holiday Bowl and turned it down to play Oklahoma for a bigger bowl payout. Washington chose money over a championship, and now all their fans are butthurt about it. Tough cheese. Only one team finished 13-0 and number 1.
@@nathanvandyke9951HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Keeping things in the rivalry, Utah lost the turnover battle by 6 in 2016 and still beat byu. This rivalry has pretty much seen it all haha. Go utes, happy to be back in the same conference, brother.
@@Swooperz11 Utah actually lost it by 3, 6 turnovers vs 3. At no point was Utah 0-6 in the turnover margin in that game. BYU was 0-6 up until the final 2 minutes in that bowl game. Even so, 6 turnovers and a win is impressive. As painful as some of these recent rivalry losses have been, I suppose this is just payback for the 70's and 80's.😅
Amazing video! Love seeing the Holy War get some love from KTO!
Awesome to see a video about the teams from my Home state. And yes, Utah sports fans, (yes even a good chunk of the Mormons) want an NFL team.
We got MLS, NBA and now a NHL team. We are in contention to get an MLB team. But we would really love to have an NFL team.
NFL would be great
Not happening, San Antonio, San Diego, and St Louis will all get teams before Utah does
@@bigglilwayne7050 2 of the three failed at keeping them, also san Antonio will not get one due to the amount of cowboys fans
As a Denver fan, no I don’t want an NFL team. But I don’t think Utah will ever get one.
@@smyleez
San Diego got screwed out of their team, same for St Louis.... San Antonio would totally support an NFL team, plus it's a way bigger market than SLC...
My dad is a life long Utah fan (which made me one too) and he has all kinds of stories, both good and bad, about the holy war. He was at the game that ended three times as well as the famous “AND ITS BLOCKED” game. My favorite is how he talks about the sugar bowl. Apparently, before the game an alabama fan came up to him and his friends and goes “do yall really think you’ve got a chance?” It feels good to prove those teams wrong again and again.
Hell Yeah, the Holy War doesn't get enough love!
22:42 the "unstoppable force," Alabama... I can still hear those announcers 😂😂😂
As a diehard Utah fan and someone who has lived in Utah for his whole life for all but two years (yes I served an LDS mission lol) I loved this game. I remember going to school and teachers would have Utah or BYU logos in their windows and would wear shirts all week long. I remember fighting with my friends on who was gonna win the game. I remember when Utah beat BYU 17-16 on a blocked field goal. Man I have so many good childhood memories of the Holy War and to me is easily one of the best rivalries in college football.
Great video!! Please bring back sports therapy with @flemloraps!! I loved watching you guys chop it up!