Im really pleased they decided to update the bike. I love my 07 and it has waaaay too many miles on it. I dont think it will be underpowered or be anything but an absolute blast. I mean I certainly wasnt going to buy orange or whatever the hell a beta or sherco is trying to be. Everyone acts like they wanted the new drz to be a 450 or 500exc competitor but then if it had been made into that would instantly complain about price and reliability as if power comes from thin air. You get what you pay for ill take a 9k bike with the same bullet proof DRZ E engine.
A “good bike” is subjective. Reliability and high performance are not compatible. I couldn't care less about the later. For me, even the old DRs are great bikes.
7:03 The frame has ALWAYS been two sections, main steel subframe and a rear aluminum subframe. The rear subrame looks mostly the same as the old one. I pointed out some differences in a video on my channel.
@ Far too many other people have made assumptions that the gear ratios have changed, even content creators have jumped on that bandwagon, yet there’s no published details about what the gear ratios are.
1 thing I always loved on my Dr and Drz was the way you adjusted the chain with the snail cam... Looks like they've changed that which sux... Oh and no 6th gear is a real shame And hopefully they bring out an E model again like we have had in Oz .. much more fun than an S
There was an E model in the US also, but that was an off-road enduro model that did not come with lights, turn signals, horn, etc. Compared to other offroad models it was pretty heavy, but a lot of people put DS kits on them and got street titles and plates. That is getting harder to do in most US states, and companies like KTM, Husky, Beta, etc. produce better offroad models that come street legal, albeit for a larger price.
Same specs as the CRF450RL except for the 40 lbs difference. For the price, this will steal the market and all the companies will soon follow this bike but not failed CRF450RL!
Crf450RL uncorked makes more HP then this bike but the DRZ has longer time between services intervals and a lower compression ratio. Also the 450RL probably will still have superior suspension though this looks to be decent
The DR-Z4S will need a Rally option. Their primary competition will be the CRF-300 Rally and several 450cc light adventure bikes. Upgrade should include a small fairing and a larger fuel tank (4 gallon minimum). If I had my way, the tank would be 5 gallons.
There are two versions of 2024 models. The MSRP for the S is on the order of 7100 and SM is around 7800. I was making a generalization for simplicity of our video.
@@endurader nah, sorry. I do not think that would be prudent. They produce in such small numbers that we would never recoup the R&D cost on projects for that brand bikes.
Lack of 6th gear is irrelevant for a bike like this one. It is not a highway bike and as long as the 5th is long enough it shouldn't matter at all. I don't get why people whines so much about it. If you are gonna spend a lot of time in high gears, this is not the bike for you.
Because they had an opportunity to make it a great all rounder bike suitable for longer trips too, especially for those who can't afford multiple bikes and even more so in this economy.
You completely miss the point of a six speed gear box. Generally, the top gear will have whatever final ratio that the engine can pull on the highway, whether it a 5th or 6th gear doesn’t matter. Likewise, a well designed gearbox on a dual sport bike will have 1st gear ratio low enough for technical offroad terrain. Once you have selected these two ratios, the other three gears should be equally spaced between them. Having only 5 speeds means the rpm jump between gears will be greater than when a 6 speed gearbox is used. In the case of a torquey big bore thumper, that isn’t such a big deal. But this is a little 400cc engine with limited engine torque. Having closer spaced gears would mean being able to select a perfect gear for any on or off road ground speed.
My drz new was 317 lbs, its now 302 lbs with a full tank of gas. There is no way to make the new version lighter than a stock old version, it's going to be heavy. If you want a light weight version of the drz with 6 gears, get a beta 390. I now enjoy both. The new drz is not for me.
@@thelonewolf666 good luck with parts. My kid's cfmoto quad spontaneously got a cel at 100 miles of use. Upon analysis the problem is a bad temperature sensor in engine. Backordered for 8 weeks.
If only they packed the bike with what consumers wanted, 6th gear, less weight, tubeless wheels, and more cc's 450, 465 or 500cc. Why buy this new outdated bike?
If only you and others would come to realize if they didn't make some of these changes the bike would no longer be legal for much of the world markets! Providing what you want and what countries regulatory agencies demand is a balancing act very few people consider. As far as the 6th speed issue (yes I wanted that too), well that would have added even more to the cost of the bike, as that is not so easy of a change as the others without significant price increases due to the engineering requirement.
@@verbalwidget0919 Don't worry, there are those of us who will buy this even if there are those of you who won't. Clearly the ball didn't drop all that far.
Throwing an extra gear in there may result in less power per gear making it boggy in some of the rev range. We saw that with some other small displacement models.
@@TSTindustries There are a LOT of reasons people think are black and white as to the decisions a company makes and they don't realize things like what you stated as just one consideration.
Lack of 6th gear is irrelevant for a bike like this one. It is not a highway bike and as long as the 5th is long enough it shouldn't matter at all. I don't get why people whines so much about it. If you are gonna spend a lot of time in high gears, this is not the bike for you.
I've had my 2002 DRZ since 2006. I still love it. I will be buying the new DR-Z4S as soon as they arrive in Washington State.
Love the styling.
looks like an mx bike
Now do the dr 650!
Im really pleased they decided to update the bike. I love my 07 and it has waaaay too many miles on it. I dont think it will be underpowered or be anything but an absolute blast. I mean I certainly wasnt going to buy orange or whatever the hell a beta or sherco is trying to be. Everyone acts like they wanted the new drz to be a 450 or 500exc competitor but then if it had been made into that would instantly complain about price and reliability as if power comes from thin air. You get what you pay for ill take a 9k bike with the same bullet proof DRZ E engine.
Or not, people pay good money for good bike, not 20 year old designs reborn.
A “good bike” is subjective. Reliability and high performance are not compatible. I couldn't care less about the later. For me, even the old DRs are great bikes.
@verbalwidget7267 if you say so man. I'm people and I buy 20 year old designs alot. Since I was an adult 20 years ago that doesn't scare me.
7:03 The frame has ALWAYS been two sections, main steel subframe and a rear aluminum subframe. The rear subrame looks mostly the same as the old one. I pointed out some differences in a video on my channel.
Amazing video Bart, thanks for giving us specifics. I can't waaaait for this to hit the US!!!!!
Yeah, I'm liking AND sharing!!!
Thanks Steve. I think this bike will be a gem. Looking forward to working on them.
6:27 I haven't seen any data or specs that shows gear ratios. Where are you seeing info that the gear ratios have changed?
Let's hope he talked to someone and that he's right!
@ Far too many other people have made assumptions that the gear ratios have changed, even content creators have jumped on that bandwagon, yet there’s no published details about what the gear ratios are.
1 thing I always loved on my Dr and Drz was the way you adjusted the chain with the snail cam... Looks like they've changed that which sux... Oh and no 6th gear is a real shame
And hopefully they bring out an E model again like we have had in Oz .. much more fun than an S
There was an E model in the US also, but that was an off-road enduro model that did not come with lights, turn signals, horn, etc. Compared to other offroad models it was pretty heavy, but a lot of people put DS kits on them and got street titles and plates. That is getting harder to do in most US states, and companies like KTM, Husky, Beta, etc. produce better offroad models that come street legal, albeit for a larger price.
I have an '01 S, but I can't wait to see what you come up with for the new models!
Cool vid
I'm moving on from a 17 v strom 650 for the new drz 4s
Hi TST curious if the ECU will be able to be Flashed or not and exhaust options? GREAT video and order from your site!
I'm hoping it can be tuned and get some hefty gains once uncorked 🤞
@@ganuvien Agree, looking forward to 2025!
Looking Nice 👍
Same specs as the CRF450RL except for the 40 lbs difference. For the price, this will steal the market and all the companies will soon follow this bike but not failed CRF450RL!
Crf450RL uncorked makes more HP then this bike but the DRZ has longer time between services intervals and a lower compression ratio. Also the 450RL probably will still have superior suspension though this looks to be decent
6th gear
The DR-Z4S will need a Rally option. Their primary competition will be the CRF-300 Rally and several 450cc light adventure bikes. Upgrade should include a small fairing and a larger fuel tank (4 gallon minimum). If I had my way, the tank would be 5 gallons.
2:04 It sounded like you said $7800 MSRP for 2024. It's $7199 for the 2024 model.
There are two versions of 2024 models. The MSRP for the S is on the order of 7100 and SM is around 7800. I was making a generalization for simplicity of our video.
Date in showroom in usa?
Do you think to develop and produce parts for AJP motorcycles especially SPR 250 enduro? thanks!
@@endurader nah, sorry. I do not think that would be prudent. They produce in such small numbers that we would never recoup the R&D cost on projects for that brand bikes.
8:27 best feature
Please review the 390SMR!
I'll wait till the aftermarket companies have a field day with this bike...
exactly.......
The price won't be the same at all. $1000 more for sure
Bart needs to wave hismagic wand over the dual sport version 🤙
Cant wait for Bart to get it & himself dirty!
Front & Rear ABS is switchable.
Lack of 6th gear is irrelevant for a bike like this one. It is not a highway bike and as long as the 5th is long enough it shouldn't matter at all. I don't get why people whines so much about it. If you are gonna spend a lot of time in high gears, this is not the bike for you.
Because they had an opportunity to make it a great all rounder bike suitable for longer trips too, especially for those who can't afford multiple bikes and even more so in this economy.
Nonsense on stilts. Most people need to ride on highways to get to the riding they want. And 6th gear is just the standard expectation now.
You completely miss the point of a six speed gear box. Generally, the top gear will have whatever final ratio that the engine can pull on the highway, whether it a 5th or 6th gear doesn’t matter. Likewise, a well designed gearbox on a dual sport bike will have 1st gear ratio low enough for technical offroad terrain.
Once you have selected these two ratios, the other three gears should be equally spaced between them. Having only 5 speeds means the rpm jump between gears will be greater than when a 6 speed gearbox is used. In the case of a torquey big bore thumper, that isn’t such a big deal. But this is a little 400cc engine with limited engine torque. Having closer spaced gears would mean being able to select a perfect gear for any on or off road ground speed.
My drz new was 317 lbs, its now 302 lbs with a full tank of gas. There is no way to make the new version lighter than a stock old version, it's going to be heavy. If you want a light weight version of the drz with 6 gears, get a beta 390. I now enjoy both. The new drz is not for me.
I found the 6th gear...it's in a Fantic 😂
With a Chinese engine that sounds like a tin of nuts and bolts
@chrro466 Italian 2025...Minerelli
@ you are blessed. The one I rode has the Chinese engine and I swear to god I thought it was going to fall apart. The noise 😬
the last thing it needed was a catalytic converter and the first thing it needed was a 6 speed--- ill buy cfmoto as they are affordable
@@thelonewolf666 good luck with parts. My kid's cfmoto quad spontaneously got a cel at 100 miles of use. Upon analysis the problem is a bad temperature sensor in engine. Backordered for 8 weeks.
Any date on dealer floors?
@@TSTindustries yes thats definitely something to consider--- maybe ill buy another current drz
If only they packed the bike with what consumers wanted, 6th gear, less weight, tubeless wheels, and more cc's 450, 465 or 500cc. Why buy this new outdated bike?
Because it will be available in the UK.
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If only you and others would come to realize if they didn't make some of these changes the bike would no longer be legal for much of the world markets! Providing what you want and what countries regulatory agencies demand is a balancing act very few people consider. As far as the 6th speed issue (yes I wanted that too), well that would have added even more to the cost of the bike, as that is not so easy of a change as the others without significant price increases due to the engineering requirement.
They should have made it a 450. The old 400 was seriously underpowered and kind of boring.
Agreed, Suzuki dropped the ball ...Again.
@@verbalwidget0919 Don't worry, there are those of us who will buy this even if there are those of you who won't. Clearly the ball didn't drop all that far.
@ Suzuki marketing is counting on the sheep to buy old outdated designs so they can make more profit with zero efforts.
God, i can't believe they didn't give it a 6 speed. They wouldn't have had to touch it again for another 20yrs. So stupid of Suzuki
Throwing an extra gear in there may result in less power per gear making it boggy in some of the rev range. We saw that with some other small displacement models.
@@TSTindustries There are a LOT of reasons people think are black and white as to the decisions a company makes and they don't realize things like what you stated as just one consideration.
Lack of 6th gear is irrelevant for a bike like this one. It is not a highway bike and as long as the 5th is long enough it shouldn't matter at all. I don't get why people whines so much about it. If you are gonna spend a lot of time in high gears, this is not the bike for you.